Get those NHL lottery bets in now. Begins 4Pm today

[WrongWay]

Man those Conspiracy nuts are circling everywhere this morning. From all this talk you would assume that there is no way New York does not get the first draft pick.

What kind of Daily Line is vegas giving that the rangers get the first pick?


What do you think? Can the NHL Lottery System be Fixed? What kind of random act are we going to see here?

[bob]

My prediction (based on absolutely nothing, just guessing) is that Chicago will get the pick.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Could it be fixed? Sure. Will it be fixed? I highly highly doubt it. But if the Rangers get the #1 pick it will be hard to convince some folks it was anything but fixed. Same goes (though to a lesser extent) if LA, Toronto, or Montreal get the pick. Let the conspiracy theorists talk til their blue in the face I'm not too worried about it.

As far as predictions go... I have no idea. I'll be disappointed if certain teams win the lottery. Ambivalent if others. Excited if a few. If Detroit managed to pull it off I would be doing the "dance of joy" for the entire weekend, month perhaps. If Colorado some how won it I would throw up.

[bob]

Yeah, if Colorado gets it, I won't be happy. Or answer the phone for about a week.

[Draft Dodger]

funny, I think I'd be pretty stoked if the Avs got it. Gut feeling is Columbus though

[MikeVic]

I think some weird team like Buffalo...

[Draft Dodger]

actually, Buffalo would be my second gut feeling

[Chubby]

I'll be jumping up and down at work if the Sabres get it :D

[DeToxRox]

I always have had a spot in my heart for the Sabres, so I wouldn't mind at all if they got Crosby.

[sachmo71]

I'll take Montreal.

[Chubby]

my gut feeling (besides Buffalo) is Phoenix, Gretzky coaching Crosby

[Blade]

I have a feeling that a one ball team will get him...just a hunch.

[DeToxRox]

Pheonix was a team I was thinking about to.

Gretzky coaching the kid he says could shatter his records.. Makes for an amazing story.

[Honolulu_Blue]

funny, I think I'd be pretty stoked if the Avs got it.
That's only because when it comes to hockey you're horribly mis-guided and even somewhat evil. :)

[MikeVic]

Pheonix was a team I was thinking about to.

Gretzky coaching the kid he says could shatter his records.. Makes for an amazing story.

"Ok Crosby, this is is my top secret method for breaking records! All you have to do is go in that dark alley over there. A magical hockey guy will give you the secret hockey stick..."

*CLANG*

[DeToxRox]

"Ok Crosby, this is is my top secret method for breaking records! All you have to do is go in that dark alley over there. A magical hockey guy will give you the secret <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=31&k=hockey%20stick" onmouseover="window.status='hockey stick'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">hockey stick</a>..."

*CLANG*

lmao.

Hey .. A Great One investigation for assault and battery is almost as good.

[Draft Dodger]

That's only because when it comes to hockey you're horribly mis-guided and even somewhat evil. :)

right. and your wife was totally just "hanging out" with a "friend" ;)

[stevew]

I barely follow hockey, but this new lottery system is stupid. Some team like the RedWings will get Crosby. It will be just another way to screw over the sucky teams(like the Penguins.)

[DeToxRox]

I barely follow hockey, but this new lottery system is stupid. Some team like the RedWings will get Crosby. It will be just another way to screw over the sucky teams(like the Penguins.)

I wish that were true .. But I can't see it happening.

We still gotta remember, the Rangers are a crappy team.

[Honolulu_Blue]

right. and your wife was totally just "hanging out" with a "friend" ;)
DUDE! Why you got to be so nasty?! :D

[stevew]

Crosby will play in the NHL this fall, right? Or will he head to AAA(AHL?).

[Honolulu_Blue]

I barely follow hockey, but this new lottery system is stupid. Some team like the RedWings will get Crosby. It will be just another way to screw over the sucky teams(like the Penguins.)
Lottery system makes perfect sense. There are other ways it could be done, but I think it's fair that, considering there was no season last year to base the draft order on (who knows what could have happened), every team has a shot at the #1 pick with those teams that have been less successful of late (like the Penguins) have a slightly higher chance. Seems fair enough.

[DeToxRox]

Crosby will play in the NHL this fall, right? Or will he head to AAA(AHL?).

I can't see any reason he won't be in the NHL. Especially with the new cap, he'll make far less money then he ought to be, and with a lot of teams cutting guys, he'll slide right in to a lineup.

[sachmo71]

That's only because when it comes to hockey you're horribly mis-guided and even somewhat evil. :)

Seconded. Avs are just evil.

[stevew]

Lottery system makes perfect sense. There are other ways it could be done, but I think it's fair that, considering there was no season last year to base the draft order on (who knows what could have happened), every team has a shot at the #1 pick with those teams that have been less successful of late (like the Penguins) have a slightly higher chance. Seems fair enough.

Okay, i didnt realize that this was just the one time method of doing the lottery.

[Wolfpack]

Heck, for all this talk of conspiracy for Crosby, maybe the NHL should have just auctioned it off to the highest bidder and then random-ordered the remaining the picks. They would have killed the conspiracies (unless you believe teams would collude to deny other teams the top pick by pooling money) and gotten Crosby to go to a major-market franchise. Proceeds from selling the pick could have been re-distributed in some sort of market-sharing way. True, minor franchises wouldn't have had any chance at Crosby, but it seems so many fans are scared to death that Crosby would end up in a backwater.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Okay, i didnt realize that this was just the one time method of doing the lottery.
Yeah. It's only because there was no season. Typically the draft works like the NBA draft with there being a lottery for the worst teams in the league which is weighted by final record. This is just to avoid tanking a season.

[JeeberD]

Go Oilers Go!

[Karim]

I can't see any reason he won't be in the NHL. Especially with the new cap, he'll make far less money then he ought to be, and with a lot of teams cutting guys, he'll slide right in to a lineup.
According to the last CBA, you had to be 20 years old to play in the AHL. The lockout year was an exception. Since the draft age has been raised to 19, I suspect it's still 20 years old. Crosby will definitely be playing in the NHL as an 18 year old.

I'd actually like to see him go to Pittsburgh or Buffalo. I definitely don't want to see him go to Toronto, Carolina, or Florida.

[DeToxRox]

Just put him in Detroit.

Crosby/Datsyuk/Zetterburg?

Oh man. Just the thought of it.

[sachmo71]

Just put him in Detroit.

Crosby/Datsyuk/Zetterburg?

Oh man. Just the thought of it.


Makes me sick to my stomach.

[DeToxRox]

Makes me sick to my stomach.

Haha. You would say that.

At least HB agrees.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Haha. You would say that.

At least HB agrees.Indeed I do!

It would be a perfect "passing of the torch" from the Steve Yzerman Era to the Sidney Crosby Era. This would be great for Detroit, great for hockey, great for our country, and great for small children everywhere!

[Qwikshot]

Flyers BABY!!!

[sovereignstar]

Indded I do!

It would be a perfect "passing of the torch" from the Steve Yzerman Era to the Sidney Crosby Era. This would be great for Detroit, great for hockey, great for our contry, and great for small children everywhere!

Spoken and spelled like a true DC-ian.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Spoken and spelled like a true DC-ian.
Ouch. That spelling was brutal! For shame!

[Schmidty]

Red Wings for teh win!!!!!!111!

[General Mike]

Nashville needs him, but go Devils.

[Johnny93g]

if its the Rangers, Im calling a fix...any other team, im fine with...obviously, i hope the Leafs get him.....the best place for him would be Montreal, and i think that would be great

[Honolulu_Blue]

if its the Rangers, Im calling a fix...any other team, im fine with...obviously, i hope the Leafs get him.....the best place for him would be Montreal, and i think that would be great
Maybe if the Rangers weren't one of the few teams with three balls in the lottery there could be tenuous grounds to suspect a fix, but they are one of those few teams. There is really no evidence to support the NHL having any real interest in the Rangers. They are horrible. Talks of fixes and conspiracies is the work of paranoid Canadians.

[Blade]

Go Oilers Go!

Amen

[Honolulu_Blue]

Red Wings for teh win!!!!!!111!
You're mocking me, aren't you?

[jbmagic]

LA Kings select Crosby :)

[Logan]

First of all, if he ends up with any team besides the Rangers, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto (Original Six etc) its going to be terrible for the league. This kid is the NHL's last hope. If Crosby ends up in somewhere like Buffalo or Nashville the league loses any benefit that he might bring.

Read an article a couple days ago about Jeremy Roenick. He was talking about the new CBA and also about Crosby. He said that if the NHL wanted to do the right thing, they should just assign the #1 pick to the Rangers. They're the only team that has the mix of a shitty enough squad along with a market that could actually benefit the league. I honestly don't think the rest of the teams would have a problem with it.

My biggest problem with this lottery is that the teams with the "best" chance only do have a slightly better chance than the Detroits and Colorados of the league. In my opinion, they should have used the system they started using, taking the teams who have missed the playoffs for 4+ years (Rangers, Nashville, Chicago, etc) and guaranteed those teams the top X picks (where X is the number of teams who fit that category). Then take the teams who have only made one playoff appearance in that past 4 years and guaranteed them the next Y picks, continuing down the line until you get to teams who have made the playoffs every year.

[MrBug708]

I might follow hockey if the Kings got Crosby

[Logan]

I might follow hockey if the Kings got Crosby

You and the other 14 people in LA who would care.

[sovereignstar]

I might follow hockey if the Kings got Crosby

Hold the phone! Let's get this boy on a plane to LA then!!

[Vince]

How about the Sharks? :)

[Johnny93g]

First of all, if he ends up with any team besides the Rangers, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto (Original Six etc) its going to be terrible for the league. This kid is the NHL's last hope. If Crosby ends up in somewhere like Buffalo or Nashville the league loses any benefit that he might bring.

Read an article a couple days ago about Jeremy Roenick. He was talking about the new CBA and also about Crosby. He said that if the NHL wanted to do the right thing, they should just assign the #1 pick to the Rangers. They're the only team that has the mix of a shitty enough squad along with a market that could actually benefit the league. I honestly don't think the rest of the teams would have a problem with it.

My biggest problem with this lottery is that the teams with the "best" chance only do have a slightly better chance than the Detroits and Colorados of the league. In my opinion, they should have used the system they started using, taking the teams who have missed the playoffs for 4+ years (Rangers, Nashville, Chicago, etc) and guaranteed those teams the top X picks (where X is the number of teams who fit that category). Then take the teams who have only made one playoff appearance in that past 4 years and guaranteed them the next Y picks, continuing down the line until you get to teams who have made the playoffs every year.

i beg to differ, I think just about every team in the league would have a MAJOR problem with it...

My biggest problem in the lottery is punishing teams that made the playoffs....whose to say what could have happend last year......Calgary came out of nowhere to win the cup.....how do we know Brodeur doesnt get hurt, NJ sucks and finishes close to last, with a great shot in the regular lottery......the fact that the lottery is weighted is unfair...it should be an equal change for every team, but this is the way it is, and im glad my Leafs have a shot at him....

assigning the pic to the Rangers, man, thats going way overboard

[Schmidty]

You're mocking me, aren't you?

Yes and no. I take any opportunity I can to mock you, but I also love the Wings. Best of both worlds.

[TazFTW]

Heh, that hockeyrumors site mock lottery.

#4-Toronto Maple Leafs
#3-Atlanta Thrashers
#2-Philadelphia Flyers
#1-avalanche

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yes and no. I take any opportunity I can to mock you, but I also love the Wings. Best of both worlds.Wait. I thought you hated the Wings? Or... No! That was someone else from the Michigan area. I was confused! GO WINGS!!!!

[Logan]

i beg to differ, I think just about every team in the league would have a MAJOR problem with it...

My biggest problem in the lottery is punishing teams that made the playoffs....whose to say what could have happend last year......Calgary came out of nowhere to win the cup.....how do we know Brodeur doesnt get hurt, NJ sucks and finishes close to last, with a great shot in the regular lottery......the fact that the lottery is weighted is unfair...it should be an equal change for every team, but this is the way it is, and im glad my Leafs have a shot at him....

assigning the pic to the Rangers, man, thats going way overboard

Your argument is the common one made by those who feel like you do, and its definitely valid. Surely anything can happen. But, for example, there was no chance the Rangers would have finished last season with anything better than a record that would put them in the bottom 5 spots in the entire league. There would have been about 6 NHL caliber players on the roster. I can pretty confidently say a few more teams would have done the same thing. Same goes for Detroit, Colorado, etc finishing near the top. Of course someone integral could get hurt, but what are the chances a team like that won't go out and trade for someone to fill in? But to give those teams such a shot to get #1 is just bad in my opinion. That's why I like the system I said before. Guarantee the top 5 or so picks to NYR, CHI, NSH, CLB, etc. Then fill in the rest.

[Johnny93g]

Your argument is the common one made by those who feel like you do, and its definitely valid. Surely anything can happen. But, for example, there was no chance the Rangers would have finished last season with anything better than a record that would put them in the bottom 5 spots in the entire league. There would have been about 6 NHL caliber players on the roster. I can pretty confidently say a few more teams would have done the same thing. Same goes for Detroit, Colorado, etc finishing near the top. Of course someone integral could get hurt, but what are the chances a team like that won't go out and trade for someone to fill in? But to give those teams such a shot to get #1 is just bad in my opinion. That's why I like the system I said before. Guarantee the top 5 or so picks to NYR, CHI, NSH, CLB, etc. Then fill in the rest.

I see your point, i just dont agree with it.....Chances are 1 team who people think would suck, just wouldnt....and one favourite, would struggle badly.....it happens......i dont want to assume anything for a season that didnt happen, and the fairest way to determine the draft order is an equal lottery. i dont like penazling teams for the 05 draft based on what happend during 01-03....just doesnt make sense to me

[Logan]

Hehe...you said "favourite"...wacky Canadians.
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That was my way of saying I have no other way to come back on your argument. :).

Bring on the lottery!

[jbmagic]

can the draft be view on Espn TV today too?

[Johnny93g]

Hehe...you said "favourite"...wacky Canadians.
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That was my way of saying I have no other way to come back on your argument. :).

Bring on the lottery!

haha...72 minutes

[rkmsuf]

Heh, that hockeyrumors site mock lottery.


What the heck is a mock lottery?

[Johnny93g]

can the draft be view on Espn TV today too?

www.tsn.ca will be streaming it if you cant watch it in the states

[sovereignstar]

www.tsn.ca will be streaming it if you cant watch it in the states

Man, that stream is already getting it's ass kicked.

[jbmagic]

www.tsn.ca will be streaming it if you cant watch it in the states

i am in Los Angeles.

so only way is thru the internet?

not being shown on TV?

[Johnny93g]

no clue if its being shown in the US....

[General Mike]

i am in Los Angeles.

so only way is thru the internet?

not being shown on TV?

MSG Network is showing it. :)

Stan Fishler is picking Vancouver to win the lottery.

[bronconick]

Both Fox Sports North and Fox Sports Detroit are showing it.

[bob]

Man, that stream is already getting it's ass kicked.

the audio only stream from the NHL website is doing much better.

[Wolfpack]

With all this build-up, I'm sitting here thinking, "Is there any chance that Crosby could bust?" I'm not too close in on hockey, but in just about any other sport, if a player has this much hype in advance of being drafted, there's a decent chance he'll either boom or bust, bust in this case being anything but boom. What if he's not the Great One II?

[rkmsuf]

MSG Network is showing it. :)

Stan Fishler is picking Vancouver to win the lottery.

I can see that. I hear their ping pong ball has been working out hard in the offseason.

[bob]

I can see that. I hear their ping pong ball has been working out hard in the offseason.

nice.

[jbmagic]

so far there showing the press conference on fox sports network in Los Angeles.

so hopefully they will show the draft after too.

[General Mike]

With all this build-up, I'm sitting here thinking, "Is there any chance that Crosby could bust?" I'm not too close in on hockey, but in just about any other sport, if a player has this much hype in advance of being drafted, there's a decent chance he'll either boom or bust, bust in this case being anything but boom. What if he's not the Great One II?

What if he's Eric Lindros without the concussions?

[General Mike]

The cable outlets that will show TSN's telecast in their viewing areas are Altitude in Denver; Comcast Sports Net in Chicago, the Mid-Atlantic area and Philadelphia; and New York's MSG Network.

[sovereignstar]

the audio only stream from the NHL website is doing much better.

Not anymore.

[Maple Leafs]

Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00.

(Just kidding.)

[sovereignstar]

Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00.

(Just kidding.)

Asshat!

[rkmsuf]

Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00.

(Just kidding.)

that's a sure fire way to guarantee #30.

[jbmagic]

this press conference got me all pump up for the upcoming season.

i didnt think i will feel this way after last season was cancel.

[Schmidty]

Wait. I thought you hated the Wings? Or... No! That was someone else from the Michigan area. I was confused! GO WINGS!!!!

You thought I hated the Wings? You're crazy. I've basically watched every single game that's been televised since the late 80's on the PASS network. I go back to the days of Gallant, Norwood, Oates, Burr, Chiasson, Probert, Ogrodnick, Racine, Cheveldae, Barr, etc.....

[TazFTW]

so far there showing the press conference on fox sports network in Los Angeles.

so hopefully they will show the draft after too.
It was on FSN Northwest, then some guy said several regions will switch to something else. We were one of the regions. :(

And they switched to some NASCAR show...

Seriously is NASCAR bigger in the northwest than hockey? Freakin' Kasey Kahne.

[jbmagic]

It was on FSN Northwest, then some guy said several regions will switch to something else. We were one of the regions. :(

And they switched to some NASCAR show...

Seriously is NASCAR bigger in the northwest than hockey? Freakin' Kasey Kahne.


damn same here. this sucks.

[sovereignstar]

Silly me. It's been on FSN North the whole time. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

You thought I hated the Wings? You're crazy. I've basically watched every single game that's been televised since the late 80's on the PASS network. I go back to the days of Gallant, Norwood, Oates, Burr, Chiasson, Probert, Ogrodnick, Racine, Cheveldae, Barr, etc.....
Ah... Those were good times... Good times... Not all that successful times, but fun nonetheless!

[Maple Leafs]

Jumpin' Jack Flash?

[bob]

yeah, that was a bit odd.

[Wolfpack]

Jumpin' Jack Flash?

And a rather bad rendition of it at that....

[sovereignstar]

Here we go, girls!

[General Mike]

go Lottery!

[TazFTW]

Okay, at least NHL.com's video stream is now working for me.

[General Mike]

30. Tampa Bay
29. Florida
28. Dallas
27. Colorado
26. Calgary
25. Edmonton
24. St. Louis
23. New Jersey
22. Boston
21. Toronto

[sachmo71]

30. Tampa Bay
29. Florida


Are they starting from the bottom?

[SackAttack]

29. Florida

Lame.

[sovereignstar]

Where's Montreal again?

Edit: 'Atta boy, Taz!

[kingfc22]

so far so good....Sharks #1 pick :)

[TazFTW]

Meh, the TSN guys were saying all the Canada teams were gone.

[Wolfpack]

They're going by 10s and they're now doing interviews after the first 10...no annoucement for MTL yet.

[kingfc22]

dola

Are the odds wieghted? If so, are they posted anywhere?

[ShaqFu]

They announced the odds. Some teams got 3 balls, more teams got 2 and most teams appeared to get 1 ball. Fairly even really.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Phew! Colorado is out at #27 and the Wings are still in it... Come on, lads! Only 19 more to go!

[SackAttack]

dola

Are the odds wieghted? If so, are they posted anywhere?

Read the thread. There's a discussion of the ping pong balls on page one, I believe.

[Wolfpack]

Go poking around in some of the NHL threads. Someone should have described the system there. In short, playoff teams and lottery winners from the last three years have less chance of picking #1 this year than others.

[HomerJSimpson]

DON"T CALL ATLANTA! DON"T CALL ATLANTA!

[korme]

I don't follow Hockey. Why is every single team in this lottery? And are the odds even for each team?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Gah! #19. Fitting, I suppose.

[HomerJSimpson]

NY and NY dead in the middle.

[TazFTW]

fixed!

[Wolfpack]

So much for conspiracies...

[General Mike]

20. Philadelphia
19. Detroit
18. Nashville
17. Phoenix
16. New York Rangers
15. New York Islanders
14. Washington
13. Buffalo
12. San Jose
11. Los Angeles

[sovereignstar]

Oh, I can feel something special.. and it's not gas.

[JeeberD]

Bah, all three of my favorite teams in the bottom five... :mad:

[Honolulu_Blue]

Well, so much for the conspiracy theories...

[Johnny93g]

I don't follow Hockey. Why is every single team in this lottery? And are the odds even for each team?

theres was no season...

[SackAttack]

Well, so much for the conspiracy theories...

Montreal's still in the hunt, aren't they? conspiracy theories aren't dead yet.

[HomerJSimpson]

Thrashers are in the top ten. Nice.

[Wolfpack]

Lessee, that leaves Vancouver, MTL, Ottawa, Carolina, Atlanta, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Minnesota, and Anaheim (I think).

[Johnny93g]

Im hoping for Montreal...please, not Ottawa

[korme]

So the odds are the same then? But what about the team that got last place 2 years ago in the last season? Do they get screwed or was there a draft last year anyway, even though there wasn't a season?

[JeeberD]

Lessee, that leaves Vancouver, MTL, Ottawa, Carolina, Atlanta, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Minnesota, and Dallas (I think).

Dallas was #28 or so...

[SackAttack]

Dallas is out. Anaheim's still alive.

[HomerJSimpson]

Dog. 8.

[Johnny93g]

So the odds are the same then? But what about the team that got last place 2 years ago in the last season? Do they get screwed or was there a draft last year anyway, even though there wasn't a season?

how are they getting screwed, they already recieved their top round picks for that season....last years draft

[Vince]

#12, not too bad I guess.

[Johnny93g]

its ottawa, i know it...i hate hockey now

[Johnny93g]

phew

[korme]

how are they getting screwed, they already recieved their top round picks for that season....last years draft
That's why I was asking. I didn't flippin know there was a draft last year.

Chill

[TazFTW]

Uh oh, I sense Pittsburgh got it.

[jbmagic]

Anahiem has a chance

[Honolulu_Blue]

Ducks or Pens...

[Wolfpack]

Pens vs. Ducks for the top pick...

[Johnny93g]

That's why I was asking. I didn't flippin know there was a draft last year.

Chill

fine, read 1 of the 10 hockey threads today then

[General Mike]

10. Vancouver
9. Ottawa
8. Atlanta
7. Chicago
6. Columbus
5. Montreal
4. Minnesota
3. Carolina

[sovereignstar]

Shit, it must've been gas.

[SackAttack]

Right around pick 15 I told my buddy on AIM that the Ducks were gonna get the #1. He didn't believe me, and now he's shitting his pants waiting for the #2 to get revealed.

[korme]

Are you always a flaming douchebag asshole or what? I asked a question, you didn't even read my full sentence, and answered like an ass. Then I explain myself and you tell me to read some hockey threads. I was asking here because I was interested.

[TazFTW]

Commercial break? Bunch of hosers.

[jbmagic]

Pittsburg will get it and it will be fix :) the next Mario

[Johnny93g]

Are you always a flaming douchebag asshole or what? I asked a question, you didn't even read my full sentence, and answered like an ass. Then I explain myself and you tell me to read some hockey threads. I was asking here because I was interested.

yes, now relax

[Cards4ever]

I hope Pittsburgh gets him

[Honolulu_Blue]

fine, read 1 of the 10 hockey threads today then
This is no way to win new fans! :(

[General Mike]

Its Pittsburgh

[TazFTW]

Fixed!

[Johnny93g]

This is no way to win new fans! :(

lol...not my job, i live in toronto, we got enough fans

[sovereignstar]

Thank god.

[Cards4ever]

Good for them, should be interesting in Pittsburgh.

[SackAttack]

So the Great White Hope of the NHL is going to a city where hockey is headed down the tubes anyway.

Symbolically fitting, I guess.

[jbmagic]

FIX :)

[korme]

This is no way to win new fans! :(
I'm starting to like the Red Wings already.. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[stevew]

Holy shit. Time for hockey to become relevant in pittsburgh again.

[Cards4ever]

So the Great White Hope of the NHL is going to a city where hockey is headed down the tubes anyway.

Symbolically fitting, I guess.

I wouldn't say that, when they were good in the late 80's early 90's they sold the building out, not any different then Anaheim.

[SackAttack]

I wouldn't say that, when they were good in the late 80's early 90's they sold the building out, not any different then Anaheim.

I'm not talking about the fans.

I'm talking about Lemieux buying the team out of bankruptcy court to protect his deferred payments and then looking for a buyer because even he hasn't been able to make the team solvent again.

[MikeVic]

Let's go HOCKEY!!! I don't mind Pittsburgh.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'm starting to like the Red Wings already.. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
That's my boy!! :D

If you continue to like the Red Wings you'll become very important. You will have many leather-bound books and your apartment will smell of rich mahogany.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think this is good. Certainly good for hockey in Pittsburgh, which has shown itself to be a good hockey city in the past and is a great sports town. It's good that Crosby is on the East Coast (much more exposure). Also, I should be able to get to see him quite a bit living here in Washington.

[DeToxRox]

Jesus. 34 people viewing this forum?

Crosby and Lemeuix .. Should be fun.

[Cards4ever]

I'm not talking about the fans.

I'm talking about Lemieux buying the team out of bankruptcy court to protect his deferred payments and then looking for a buyer because even he hasn't been able to make the team solvent again.

But wouldn't you agree that the team will be much healthier with a team that is good? Spiraling salaries killed that team, the cap and a exciting player like Crosby will be a huge boost. Do you think Anaheim desevered to have the 1st pick ahead of Pittsburgh?

[Johnny93g]

Crosby, Lemieux, Fleury, Recchi, Malkin, its a nice little nucleaus

[Draft Dodger]

glad he didn't go to Carolina or Anaheim. Pittsburgh is a good fit, although I'm already tired of the Lemieux stories.

Would have been even cooler if Jagr still played for Pittsburgh - could have put (arguably) the 3 most talented post-Gretzky forwards on the same line.

[Dr. Sak]

Crosby, Lemieux, Fleury, Recchi, Malkin, its a nice little nucleaus


Malkin might not come over. There was an article in the Post Gazette saying he might just stay in Russia. Glad i got my season tickets for the pens before the rush set in.

[Johnny93g]

Malkin might not come over. There was an article in the Post Gazette saying he might just stay in Russia. Glad i got my season tickets for the pens before the rush set in.

did not know that, that would suck for the pens, as he would get some good ice time on this team...Is it a money thing?

[jbmagic]

that guy was getting mad during the break on the live internet feed

give him the damn phone number to Mario Lemieux for an interview..


that was funny

[Draft Dodger]

Crosby, Lemieux, Fleury, Recchi, Malkin, its a nice little nucleaus

heck Crosby, Fleury, Bob & Don Sweeny and a Zamboni driver would be a nice nucleus

[Dr. Sak]

did not know that, that would suck for the pens, as he would get some good ice time on this team...Is it a money thing?

Here is a link to the article...



Malkin (http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05202/541229.stm)

[korme]

That's my boy!! :D

If you continue to like the Red Wings you'll become very important. You will have many leather-bound books and your apartment will smell of rich mahogany.
So you're saying I'll be kind of a big deal?!! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Johnny93g]

heck Crosby, Fleury, Bob & Don Sweeny and a Zamboni driver would be a nice nucleus

LMAO!!!

[TazFTW]

Where does Pittsburgh project as far as the cap?

I mean are they going for the minimum?

[Maple Leafs]

The NHL narrowly averts disaster with a final three of Carolina, Anaheim and Pittsburgh.

There could be worse destinations than the Pens... it will be nice to see them back to being competitive.

[Dr. Sak]

Where does Pittsburgh project as far as the cap?

I mean are they going for the minimum?


If I would guess I would say they will spend around 30 to 32 million.

[Dr. Sak]

The NHL narrowly averts disaster with a final three of Carolina, Anaheim and Pittsburgh.

There could be worse destinations than the Pens... it will be nice to see them back to being competitive.


Dont lie

[Maple Leafs]

Dont lieNo no, I'm doing much better now.

It's slowly dawning on me that Carolina almost won this damn thing...

[Swaggs]

Oh hell yes!!!

[Joe Canadian]

There could be worse destinations than the Pens...

True, but the best without question, for the game, was the Rangers.

[Honolulu_Blue]

No no, I'm doing much better now.

It's slowly dawning on me that Carolina almost won this damn thing...
That was my biggest fear as well. The best moment of the draft was when I heard Carolina called at #3. It wins by a hair over hearing Colorado called at #27.

[Honolulu_Blue]

So you're saying I'll be kind of a big deal?!! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Indeed. People will know you.

[RPI-Fan]

That was my biggest fear as well. The best moment of the draft was when I heard Carolina called at #3. It wins by a hair over hearing Colorado called at #27.

I agree.

If you tell me before the draft that the Islanders beat out the Rangers (our rivals), the Devils (boring-ass shit) AND the Flyers (guy at work is a huge fan so I'm kind of against them now), I'd probably be thrilled, since it would likely mean the Isles were in the Top 10. Alas, it didn't work out.

I told the guy at work on Thursday that the place I'd least like to be is between 10 and 20 -- and where do we get? Fucking 15, just to spite me or something.

[RPI-Fan]

There has to be SOME offer the Pens would take. I was thinking if Philly came in with something like:

-Carter
-Richards
-3 1sts
-3 2nds

that would be very hard for the Pens to turn down.

[Dr. Sak]

There has to be SOME offer the Pens would take. I was thinking if Philly came in with something like:

-Carter
-Richards
-3 1sts
-3 2nds

that would be very hard for the Pens to turn down.


I hope the Flyers dont trade Carter and Richards.

[RPI-Fan]

I hope the Flyers dont trade Carter and Richards.

I'm not a Flyers fan (in fact I'm becoming more anti-Flyers), I was just wondering if there would be anything the Pens could absolutely not turn down.

[Draft Dodger]

There has to be SOME offer the Pens would take. I was thinking if Philly came in with something like:

-Carter
-Richards
-3 1sts
-3 2nds

that would be very hard for the Pens to turn down.

maybe if they throw in Jimmy Carson and Martin Gelinas...

[Maple Leafs]

Wade Belak and a third rounder. Deal?

[TazFTW]

There has to be SOME offer the Pens would take. I was thinking if Philly came in with something like:

-Carter
-Richards
-3 1sts
-3 2nds

that would be very hard for the Pens to turn down.
Throw in the arena.

[Greyroofoo]

Just to let everyone know now that the Red Wings are gonna win the cup.

Thank you that is all :)

[sovereignstar]

Just to let everyone know now that the Red Wings are gonna win the cup.

Thank you that is all :)

Because?

[Greyroofoo]

Because they're the f***ing Red Wings!!!!

[Honolulu_Blue]

Because they're the f***ing Red Wings!!!!
Amen, brother.

[JeffNights]

Am I alone in thinking all these assholes in the Detroit media need to shut the fuck up and give Manny Legace a chance to be the number one Goalie?

[WrongWay]

There has to be SOME offer the Pens would take.

Money has always worked in baseball.

I think Colorado should buy/rent Pittsburgh for a day or two; just long enough to make a trade. Throw some serios $.$$ at the Penguins and see if they blink.


Also, does anyone know if Pittsburgh ever got their new stadium?

[DaddyTorgo]

22!! 22!!! *spits* WTF is that. Our team is horrid. Oh well, at least we have a ton of cap room to go after FA's.

*bitter bruins "fan"*

[Swaggs]

So, is Crosby going to make as big a splash in the NHL as Lebron James has in the NBA?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Am I alone in thinking all these assholes in the Detroit media need to shut the fuck up and give Manny Legace a chance to be the number one Goalie?
Doubt you're alone, but I sorta side with the "assholes" on this one.

[WrongWay]

So, is Crosby going to make as big a splash in the NHL as Lebron James has in the NBA?
No, hopefully he will be good enough to put the Pens in the playoffs. :D

[bbor]

Crosby=Daigle:D

Minus the nurses outfit.

[MikeVic]

maybe if they throw in Jimmy Carson and Martin Gelinas...

Who was the guy that was in the Gretzky trade that had like a 150-point season... then kind of was normal after that?

[jbmagic]

Who was the guy that was in the Gretzky trade that had like a 150-point season... then kind of was normal after that?


yes was part of the Wayne Gretzy trade.

he never score 150 points

He was drafted #2 by the Kings in 1986

He scored 79 points in his rookie season with the Kings in 1986-1987

he score 107 points in 1987-88 season for the Kings

in 1988-1989 he score 100 points for Edmonton

after that he was just below normal.

so he only put three good seasons together.

then the Kings got him back in 1992-1994 from Detroit for Paul Coffey. But Carson suck really bad when he return. A bad trade for the Kings at that time.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=00000845

[SackAttack]

But wouldn't you agree that the team will be much healthier with a team that is good?

Not necessarily. Where has having a good team gotten the Marlins in the last 2-3 years?

Spiraling salaries killed that team

Gross mismanagement by previous ownership killed that team. Just ask Blackhawk fans how they feel about Wirtz.

the cap and a exciting player like Crosby will be a huge boost.

The cap will help, but you still have to spend on the right players, or it's a worthless tool, as the Knicks have shown in the NBA.

Do you think Anaheim desevered to have the 1st pick ahead of Pittsburgh?

That's kind of a red herring. What does Anaheim have to do with whether or not Pittsburgh, or any other team in the league, deserved to win the lottery? I think the lottery setup was flawed, but you've gotta start somewhere to clean up the shit that the NHL left all over the the place over the last year and a half.

[ice4277]

Am I alone in thinking all these assholes in the Detroit media need to shut the fuck up and give Manny Legace a chance to be the number one Goalie?
Well, its not as bad as the Terell Owens to the Lions rumors that apparently were circling the sports-talk circuit here yesterday.

[Honolulu_Blue]

yes was part of the Wayne Gretzy trade.

he never score 150 points

He was drafted #2 by the Kings in 1986

He scored 79 points in his rookie season with the Kings in 1986-1987

he score 107 points in 1987-88 season for the Kings

in 1988-1989 he score 100 points for Edmonton

after that he was just below normal.

so he only put three good seasons together.

then the Kings got him back in 1992-1994 from Detroit for Paul Coffey. But Carson suck really bad when he return. A bad trade for the Kings at that time.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=00000845
May I please request the Jimmy Carson never be mentioned in this, or any other current or future hockey thread, ever.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Well, its not as bad as the Terell Owens to the Lions rumors that apparently were circling the sports-talk circuit here yesterday.Sometimes I really, really hate sports-talk radio.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Also, does anyone know if Pittsburgh ever got their new stadium?

No. They are still working on getting one, but the main problem is that the Pirates and Steelers both have new stadiums and the city is bankrupt, so who is going to pony up the money for the Pens, especially when they suck?

Winning the draft lottery was the best thing to happen to the Pens. Make the team a contender and the money for a new stadium will appear because everyone loves a winner.

[WrongWay]

No. They are still working on getting one, but the main problem is that the Pirates and Steelers both have new stadiums and the city is bankrupt, so who is going to pony up the money for the Pens, especially when they suck?

I thought Jean-Claude Van Damme blew that place up in Sudden Death. :D

Also, loved that retractable roof the movie had.