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JonInMiddleGA
09-01-2005, 06:26 PM
Note to SD (if you read this) -- if you see the generic baseball thread, feel free to merge this one into it.

http://sports.myway.com/news/09012005/v1809.html

BALTIMORE (AP) - Sidney Ponson was released Thursday by the Baltimore Orioles, who contend the pitcher's conduct and problems with alcohol the past nine months give them grounds to terminate his contract.

Ponson, on the 15-day disabled list with thumb and calf injuries, has one season left on a three-year deal that would pay him $10 million in 2006.

"The Orioles did what we felt was justified and right, and indeed what we were compelled to do," said H. Russell Smouse, the team's general counsel. "There was really no alternative after a deliberate consideration of all the facts."

Ponson's agent, Barry Praver, did not return a call. Praver and Ponson have not talked to the media since the 28-year-old pitcher's arrest last week.

"We will clearly grieve it," said Michael Weiner, the general counsel of the players' association.

Ponson was arrested Aug. 25 and accused of driving under the influence of alcohol. He also was charged in January with driving under the influence in Florida, a case that has not been resolved.

That arrest came less than a month after he spent 11 days in an Aruban jail after he hit a judge during a Christmas Day fight at a beach in his home country. Ponson apologized for the fight and reached a settlement that involved community service and a charitable contribution.

Last week's arrest convinced the Orioles they had sufficient grounds to terminate his contract. In a one-sentence release Thursday, the Orioles said they placed the pitcher on "unconditional release waivers," citing a violation of the standard player contract.

Every player on the 40-man roster signs a standard contract that includes a morals clause, paragraph 3(a), that reads: "The Player agrees to perform his services hereunder diligently and faithfully, to keep himself in first-class physical condition and to obey the Club's training rules, and pledges himself to the American public and to the Club to conform to high standards of personal conduct, fair play and good sportsmanship."

The Orioles believe Ponson violated that rule.

"It relates to his alcohol-related conduct over a period of time," Smouse said.

The move prompted a mixed reaction from Orioles players.

"I cannot blame the team for what they did," catcher Javy Lopez said. "They figured that this is what they need to do in order to I guess to, I don't know, not to say to help him out but just to clean up some of the issues that have been happening to this organization."

"This isn't a shut case," said outfielder Jay Gibbons, the Orioles' player rep. "It's not easy to do something like that, I know. Yeah, he's made some mistakes but a lot of people have. We're just going to have to see how it plays out."

The Colorado Rockies tried to void pitcher Denny Neagle's contract after his arrest during the winter on charges of solicitation of prostitution, 14 months after he was charged with DUI.

The players' association filed a grievance on Neagle's behalf, and the sides settled during a break in the hearing. Neagle accepted $16 million of the $19 million owed on his contract, a record severance check in baseball.

Ponson is 7-11 with a 6.21 ERA, among the highest in the major leagues. He has not won a game since June 18.

ice4277
09-01-2005, 06:31 PM
Ponson is definitely one of the top five biggest turdballs in sports.

QuikSand
09-01-2005, 06:35 PM
Settlement ahead, I'll guess at about half.

RainRaven
09-01-2005, 06:46 PM
At the very least he won't be a complete waste of a roster spot now. Though with the track record of oriole management I doubt they get anyone better in his place.

Buccaneer
09-01-2005, 06:57 PM
God bless you, Phil.

st.cronin
09-01-2005, 06:58 PM
Isn't that SIR Sidney Ponson?

Ksyrup
09-01-2005, 06:58 PM
Settlement ahead, I'll guess at about half.
Anyone know Denny Neagle's settlement terms? He had a couple of years left and only one solicitation of prostitution arrest, didn't he? Ponson shouldn't get half.

QuikSand
09-01-2005, 07:09 PM
Anyone know Denny Neagle's settlement terms? He had a couple of years left and only one solicitation of prostitution arrest, didn't he? Ponson shouldn't get half.

I'd think the Orioles did themselves a (predictable) disservice by waiting until after he had a lousy season to invoke the morals clause based on things that happened before the season started.

SackAttack
09-01-2005, 08:02 PM
I'd think the Orioles did themselves a (predictable) disservice by waiting until after he had a lousy season to invoke the morals clause based on things that happened before the season started.

Not all of it happened before the season started. He had a DUI and assault in Aruba during the preseason, but he was detained a week or two ago on a separate DUI charge, if memory serves.

SackAttack
09-01-2005, 08:03 PM
Ponson was arrested Aug. 25 and accused of driving under the influence of alcohol. He also was charged in January with driving under the influence in Florida, a case that has not been resolved.

Yep. A week ago basically to the day.

QuikSand
09-01-2005, 08:45 PM
Sorry, I missed the recent event (both live and above). Does work against him, agreed.

Ksyrup
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
And Neagle had a lousy career in Colorado before they shit-canned him for the same reason.

oykib
09-01-2005, 09:56 PM
I'd think the Orioles did themselves a (predictable) disservice by waiting until after he had a lousy season to invoke the morals clause based on things that happened before the season started.

I don't know. The bad year does sort of indicate that his moral terpitude has interfered with his obligations.

I think it behooves the owners in the sports with guarunteed contracts to really go after one of these guys, one of these days.

General Mike
09-01-2005, 10:25 PM
Anyone know Denny Neagle's settlement terms? He had a couple of years left and only one solicitation of prostitution arrest, didn't he? Ponson shouldn't get half.

From the article

Colorado Rockies tried to void pitcher Denny Neagle's contract after his arrest during the winter on charges of solicitation of prostitution, 14 months after he was charged with DUI.

The players' association filed a grievance on Neagle's behalf, and the sides settled during a break in the hearing. Neagle accepted $16 million of the $19 million owed on his contract, a record severance check in baseball.

Ponson will end up getting at least 70% of his money.

sterlingice
09-01-2005, 11:39 PM
*insert something about the MLBPA being a pile of crap*

SI

Ksyrup
09-02-2005, 08:12 AM
From the article

Colorado Rockies tried to void pitcher Denny Neagle's contract after his arrest during the winter on charges of solicitation of prostitution, 14 months after he was charged with DUI.

The players' association filed a grievance on Neagle's behalf, and the sides settled during a break in the hearing. Neagle accepted $16 million of the $19 million owed on his contract, a record severance check in baseball.

Ponson will end up getting at least 70% of his money.

If they were going to give him that much, it wasn't worth the effort to even try to void the contract.

korme
09-02-2005, 01:44 PM
Michael Weiner Heh weiner


"This isn't a shut case," said outfielder Jay Gibbons, the Orioles' player rep.
Jay Gibbons has been an Oriole for like 3-4 years, how is he their player rep?

sterlingice
09-02-2005, 01:50 PM
Jay Gibbons has been an Oriole for like 3-4 years, how is he their player rep?
Same way Jeremy Affeldt is the Royals players rep and he's barely been in the league 4 years. It used to be Jason Grimsley and I'm guessing Sweeney didn't want it so it went to someone else.

SI

korme
09-02-2005, 02:01 PM
Wow, that's crazy. I guess if I look at the O's roster (same with Royals), they have no long-time players. Even a small market team like Cincy has players with long tenures (LaRue, Casey, Griffey).