Werewolf XV: Round 'Em Up And Hang 'Em!

[Neon_Chaos]

If people are still interested. Need about 20+ players.

RULES HAVE BEEN UPDATED!!!! READ!!!

Rules:
Day Phase: During the Day Phase, the players vote for a character to be locked up inside the cage. Or if the judge is locked-up, vote to lynch someone. (Deadline: 9PM EDT)
Jail: If someone is sent into jail, that person's role is not revealed. That person will still be able to speak, but he will not be able to vote. People sent into Jail lose their night ability. If people are removed from Jail, they regain their night abilities. If the Judge dies/is sent into jail, everyone in Jail DO NOT get free. The Outlaws may CHOOSE to kill someone in Jail as their night action.
Death/Lynching: Deaths and Lynch victims' roles are revealed upon expiration.
Night Phase: During the Night Phase, players with roles that require a night action will be asked to PM me their specific actions for the night. (Deadline: 9AM EDT)

Victory Conditions:
Villagers: Jail/Lynch all Outlaws
Outlaws: Gain a 1/1 ratio with Villagers that are still alive and free (not Jailed/Lynched.)

Roles: (No hidden roles this time around)

Bad Guys: (the Outlaws may PM each other, note that the exact number of total outlaws is unknown.)
Outlaw Leader - You are the leader of the Outlaws. If killed (note: lynched or executed, not Jailed), you can take one player to the grave with you. The Outlaws can agree to kill one person at night, PM'ing me the name of the person who is going to do the killing, or as a one-time skill, execute a Jail-Break... releasing all Jailed individuals.
Outlaw Spy - You are the Outlaw spy, each night you may check to see if a player is the Private Eye.
Outlaw - You are a regular Outlaw.
Man Of Loose Moral Fiber - You are a man of loose moral fiber, if attacked by the Outlaws at night, you will automatically join them. As long as you ar enot attacked, you are still to be considered as a villager, and will appear as such to the PI. You do not know that you are a man of loose moral fiber until you are attacked.

Good Guys:
Judge - You are the Judge, the man who maintains law in this small town. While the Judge is still out and about (not locked up), lynchings will not occur. Instead, people will be sent to Jail. As a night-action the Judge may choose to have a person released from Jail.
Wealthy Baron - You are a wealthy baron. Your influence allows you to change the target of the vote for the day. If used, the new target is automatically executed...regardless if the Judge is still alive or not. This is a one-time skill only. If used, your role is revealed.
Private Investigator - You are the Private Eye. You may check to see if a player is an Outlaw. Not that you will only know if someone is an Outlaw, and not the type of Outlaw that he is.
Sherriff - You may choose to protect one person from being killed by the Outlaws at night. You may choose yourself, but not choose the same person twice in a row.
Witness - You may choose to perform a witnessing action at night. If you do so, then you will find out the identity fo the Outlaw doing the killing for that night, the Outlaws will also find out who you are.. If the Outlaws do not kill anyone, you do not see anyone.
Villager - You are a regular Villager. You must be able to Jail/Lynch all four Outlaws
Gypsy Twin - You are a psychic Gypsy Twin, if you die, then your twin dies as well. You know who your twin is, and you may PM each other

Players:
1. ardent enthusiast
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack
8. Bek
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum
11. Blade6119
12. pennywisesb
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296
19. ReadlDeal

[Poli]

In.

[Passacaglia]

In.

[MrBug708]

Woot!

[saldana]

i'm in, unless you dont want me to play cuz i was a whiny bitch last time :)

[saldana]

dola, and if you do let me play, can i have the hand grenade i talked about last time?

[dubb93]

in

[RPI-Fan]

In.

[SackAttack]

I, uh. I'd be interested but the fact that we have absolutely no detail about what sort of game this will be, plus the fact that Neon_Chaos is DMing it has me scared.

[jeff061]

I'd join up, but I'm still get my head around Barkeep's.

[Bek]

im in

[Neon_Chaos]

I, uh. I'd be interested but the fact that we have absolutely no detail about what sort of game this will be, plus the fact that Neon_Chaos is DMing it has me scared.
:D

Rules will be posted as soon as I finalize them.

[Mr. Wednesday]

In.

[Lathum]

In, maybe we can keep it simple?

[Neon_Chaos]

In, maybe we can keep it simple?
Yep. :)

[SackAttack]

Okay, Neon_Chaos still frightens me, but the game looks cool enough that I'm in, yo.

[Blade6119]

everyone knows im in

[Lathum]

everyone knows im in
VOTE BLADE :)

[pennywisesb]

I'm in. vote Lathum

[saldana]

can we get a thread started to take bets on if lathum lives through the first night? :)

[jeff061]

This looks like a pretty cool rule set.

I think I'll play afterall.

[Fouts]

I'll join.

[Lathum]

Just one question about the witness. If there is no kill that night do the outlaws still find out who you are?

[Neon_Chaos]

No kill, no witnessing, the Outlaws don't know who you are since they didn't go out to kill that night.

[kingfc22]

I like the western theme. I'm in.

[Neon_Chaos]

I'm thinking of moving the Outlaw number from 4 to 3.

[RPI-Fan]

No kill, no witnessing, the Outlaws don't know who you are since they didn't go out to kill that night.

Yea', but what if the bailiff protects the kill?

[Neon_Chaos]

Yea', but what if the bailiff protects the kill?
Kill doesn't succeed. Witness finds out who tried to kill, Outlaw finds out who the witness is.

[Blade6119]

i just know neon will give me the worst possible role just to screw with me:

Retard - You are the retard...you have no special powers, you cant vote, and you are barred from talking in the thread. The outlaws thinks your the private eye, and the villagers think your an outlaw. If your alive the third day, you will be killed for fun. Good luck

[Neon_Chaos]

i just know neon will give me the worst possible role just to screw with me:

Retard - You are the retard...you have no special powers, you cant vote, and you are barred from talking in the thread. The outlaws thinks your the private eye, and the villagers think your an outlaw. If your alive the third day, you will be killed for fun. Good luck
nice idea. :)

[saldana]

i just know neon will give me the worst possible role just to screw with me:

Retard - You are the retard...you have no special powers, you cant vote, and you are barred from talking in the thread. The outlaws thinks your the private eye, and the villagers think your an outlaw. If your alive the third day, you will be killed for fun. Good luck


lol

[SnDvls]

IN

[Neon_Chaos]

Four more to go.

[Schmidty]

In if there's room.

[Neon_Chaos]

If noone else signs up in the next 24 hours, I'll go send out roles and start the game.

[Lathum]

i just know neon will give me the worst possible role just to screw with me:

Retard - You are the retard...you have no special powers, you cant vote, and you are barred from talking in the thread. The outlaws thinks your the private eye, and the villagers think your an outlaw. If your alive the third day, you will be killed for fun. Good luck
if the shoe fits :D

[Groundhog]

Um. So. What exactly is 'Werewolf'? I've seen a zilllion of these threads and have no idea what the heck is going on.

[Schmidty]

Um. So. What exactly is 'Werewolf'? I've seen a zilllion of these threads and have no idea what the heck is going on.

We eat children here and listen to the Beatles backwards.

[henry296]

Sure why not.

[Neon_Chaos]

Um. So. What exactly is 'Werewolf'? I've seen a zilllion of these threads and have no idea what the heck is going on.
The rules of the original game...
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=39993&highlight=werewolf+rules

The original game thread....
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=40003&highlight=werewolf

[Neon_Chaos]

Bah. I'm giving this until next week. I'm busy reading the other game too. :P

[Blade6119]

......bah

[Barkeep49]

Going to sit this one out as my game requires quite a bit of attention, but I like the western theme as well and will be reading with interest.

[Lathum]

boo

[Bek]

im dissappointed...was looking forward to try and balance two games and keep them both seperate...

[Neon_Chaos]

im dissappointed...was looking forward to try and balance two games and keep them both seperate...
Trust me, it's easier to play one game at a time. :)

[SackAttack]

Who else thinks Neon just wants to steal ideas for WW XVI or XVII? :D

[Neon_Chaos]

Who else thinks Neon just wants to steal ideas for WW XVI or XVII? :D
:) I wish. My brain isn't wired correctly, and it couldn't comprehend the complexity of Barkeep's game.

[Blade6119]

im dissappointed...was looking forward to try and balance two games and keep them both seperate...

Come on matt, its not like you do anything in the other thread anyways... :rolleyes:

[Bek]

Trust me, it's easier to play one game at a time. :)

i bet it would be but when things get easy they dont beome fun anymore...or thats at least my experience...and has for blades comment...im not talking in there because i have nothing to had...everything is repaired(which is my job) and know i have to buckle down and find those spawn

[dubb93]

How about we get this game going now ;)

[Neon_Chaos]

Noone else going to sign up?

[dubb93]

send Marc Vaughn a PM, he didn't get much action in the last game. He may be interested.

[Lathum]

How about we get this game going now ;)
lol, why the rush?

[Neon_Chaos]

rules have been updated. kindly read them. i will send out roles within 24 hours.

[Poli]

Word.

[kingfc22]

I'm ready now that I have been killed in the other WW game.

[RealDeal]

I'm in.

[Neon_Chaos]

Roles have been sent out. Any questions regarding the rules?

[Poli]

Can we sing Bon Jovi songs?

[Mr. Wednesday]

When does the next "period" end? My availability will be spotty to nonexistent over the weekend -- I'm moving and I won't have a dial tone at the house until Monday.

[SackAttack]

No questions on the rules. Seems pretty straightforward. My hope is that this won't start until at least Sunday, because I'm gonna be busy covering the JC football game out here tomorrow.

[kingfc22]

Yee Hawww!!!

[SackAttack]

I take that back. I do have one question. If I'm reading this right, the only way we can lynch outlaws is if the judge is in jail? Otherwise the nightly vote sends a player to jail?

[Blade6119]

Roles have been sent out. Any questions regarding the rules?

Ya, why am i a crappy villager when you know how fun i am when im evil :p

[Neon_Chaos]

Sack: Correct. The value of a Jailed Outlaw is equivlent to a deceased outlaw. The only difference is that the Outlaws can talk, and could be broken out via a one-time JailBreak. So if the villagers jail all the outlaws then the villagers win.

Everyone: It's clear that the weekend is a pretty awkward time to start. We are going to start with Night 1. Night actions will be required by 9AM EDT Sunday. Day 1 will then commence, with the Voting deadline at 9PM EDT Monday

[Lathum]

Ya, why am i a crappy villager when you know how fun i am when im evil :p
I was wondering the same thing about me. Maybe Neon wants to watch the entertainment of 2 innocent villegars trying to take each other out.

[MrBug708]

This is a much less complicated game IMO. Once again, I'm a lowly villager

[saldana]

villager checking in

[jeff061]

And once again I'm good, I have yet to start one of these things on the side of evil. Also, the obligatory, I am just a villager.

[henry296]

Nothing for me to do over the next couple of days until we need to vote for our first outlaw. I'll start checking in on Monday.

[Schmidty]

I'm here, and I'm ready for some outlaw hunting.

[RealDeal]

Villager checking in.

[Fouts]

Checking in. This game reminds me of "Hang 'em High". Lets round up those outlaws.

[Passacaglia]

Outlaw checking in...wait, I mean villager! Villager checking in!

[Bek]

Hows it all going on this fine weekend in September...im going out to round me up some cattle so the family and i can have a big saturday cookout...anyone wanna join us?

[Blade6119]

Outlaw checking in...wait, I mean villager! Villager checking in!

thats enough for me to vote for ya first day...ill be looking at that next week :rolleyes: :p

[jeff061]

The sad thing is I've seen people voted out for just that day one. I think we are beyond that though now :).

[pennywisesb]

Villager checking in. I really wanted to be an outlaw this game but apparently me and chaos aren't thinking eye to eye.

[Neon_Chaos]

Deadline has passed. It is now Day (1).

You are a travelling band of trailblazers, out to settle the west. You have all met each other on the road to the mining town of Tree's Stump. You find this small village, on the outskirts of the town, and see that it is abandoned. Neon Chaos, the wagon-leader, decides that it would be best to make camp here, seeing as how all these vacant houses and stables aren't being used.

Last night, you had a good feast, and Neon Chaos told a tale of the fabled lost gold of One-Fingered Puck. The story goes that a thief named One-Fingered Puck stole an entire crate of gold from a group of outlaws about five years ago. The outlaws found Puck, but not before he had time to hide the gold. Now, there is a rumor that the gold is located inside the mines of Tree's Stump... and that's why most of you are here... because you heard of this rumor.

As you wake up in the morning... you find Neon Chaos' body outside the tent, a knife stuck on his chest. You finally realize that this... this is serious. You will need to find whoever's responsible... you notice a local jail in the village... pretty handy in these times, you think. There is a semblance of order still... you must vote to see who goes to the brig!

DEADLINE IS AT 9PM EDT.

Kindly bold your vote and place it on a different line. Thanks

e.g.

blahblahblah, so and so, blah blah accusations...

Vote Neon Chaos

[jeff061]

I'm going to be in and out today.

[Poli]

Players:
1. ardent enthusiast
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack
8. Bek
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum
11. Blade6119
12. pennywisesb
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296
19. ReadlDeal
This is easy enough. Vote Schmidty. :)

[Passacaglia]

Deadline is 9 PM Monday, right? I won't be on much today -- travelling -- but I'll be on a lot Monday.

[Neon_Chaos]

Remember, voting deadline is at 9PM Monday! :D Have the Sunday night off! :P

MANNY PACQUIAO WON! WHOOO! I am celebrating.

[SackAttack]

vote pennywisesb

He said he wanted to be an Outlaw, and for a first day vote, that's good enough for me.

[RealDeal]

Is the judge's existence an advantage or disadvantage for us? While the judge is free we can't kill outlaws. And if we can only jail them, then they can be freed in a jailbreak. Am I reading the rules right. I'm just not sure what benefit the judge is to us.

[jeff061]

I guess we aren't beyond that.

[SackAttack]

Is the judge's existence an advantage or disadvantage for us? While the judge is free we can't kill outlaws. And if we can only jail them, then they can be freed in a jailbreak. Am I reading the rules right. I'm just not sure what benefit the judge is to us.

True, but the private investigator can determine if a player is an outlaw or not. By jailing somebody rather than lynching them, we can reduce the risk of eliminating innocents, which plays directly into the Outlaws' hands.

On the other hand, yeah, there is that pesky Jailbreak thing.

Just saying, the judge isn't useless. It's just not a slam-dunk benefit.

[SackAttack]

I guess we aren't beyond that.

Yes, but he's also a division rival in the DKBL. That alone is good enough for me, but I figured an in-game reason would be more relevant here. :D

[jeff061]

Is the judge's existence an advantage or disadvantage for us? While the judge is free we can't kill outlaws. And if we can only jail them, then they can be freed in a jailbreak. Am I reading the rules right. I'm just not sure what benefit the judge is to us.

I think he's pretty much neutral since we get a second chance on innocents who were voted on. His importance will switch from side to side as the game goes on I think.

[jeff061]

Vote SnDvls

I vote the quiet ones day 1. Vote subject to change.

[Fouts]

I haven't the slightest idea who to vote for. I'm thinking I should vote for somebody I don't think will be any help later in the game. I have a list of 3-5 prospects.

[RPI-Fan]

Sorry I couldn't check in: work all day today.

Vote saldana

Nothing personal: Just haven't seen anything that makes me believe you AREN'T an outlaw.

[jeff061]

Was the deadline today? Pretty quiet around here.

[henry296]

Was the deadline today? Pretty quiet around here.

Deadline is Monday at 9PM.

[Fouts]

Voting for someone who is usually quiet and hasn't been a bad guy much, if at all (probably his turn).

Vote Bek

[RPI-Fan]

Voting for someone who is usually quiet and hasn't been a bad guy much, if at all (probably his turn).

Vote Bek

Just curious: Has N_C ever mentioned if roles are random, or if they are assigned?

[saldana]

Sorry I couldn't check in: work all day today.

Vote saldana

Nothing personal: Just haven't seen anything that makes me believe you AREN'T an outlaw.


whatever, i havent said anything at all except "villager checking in", the deadline is tommorow, we have tonight off, so
vote rpi fan

[Neon_Chaos]

Just curious: Has N_C ever mentioned if roles are random, or if they are assigned?
it's random.

[RealDeal]

I don't feel so bad about voting for people in this game at this point because they don't die.

vote SackAttack

for voting for Penny for the reason of making a lame joke. Obviously, this is subject to change.

[kingfc22]

Vote Jeff

Your name is #13 on the list and since that is an unlucky number I will vote for you.

[pennywisesb]

I don't feel so bad about voting for people in this game at this point because they don't die.

vote SackAttack

for voting for Penny for the reason of making a lame joke. Obviously, this is subject to change.

LOL. Thanks Real. Just checking in again, I've been busy most of the day but since nothing is going on in the other WW thread I thought I'd spend some time over here.

[Bek]

Voting for someone who is usually quiet and hasn't been a bad guy much, if at all (probably his turn).

Vote Bek


he's right...ive never been a bad guy and i'm still not...in the interest of being fair...

vote Fouts

[SnDvls]

sorry guys checking in today. After the hard fought loss by my devils to LSU it's been a rough Sunday.

I guess we've already started I'll have to get reading and vote once I'm at work in the morning.

[Schmidty]

Random:

Vote Fouts

[SnDvls]

Vote SnDvls

I vote the quiet ones day 1. Vote subject to change.


back at you.

vote jeff061

subject to removal if you remove yours

[SackAttack]

I don't feel so bad about voting for people in this game at this point because they don't die.

vote SackAttack

for voting for Penny for the reason of making a lame joke. Obviously, this is subject to change.

I dunno. Seems to me like MAKING the lame joke is a greater offense than a vote cast BECAUSE of the joke. :D

[RPI-Fan]

NOte: School all morning, work at night -- but I'll be checking in ometime between noon and midnight.

[Blade6119]

i wont be around at all...and i can never read him...and he betrays mizzou

Vote Ardent

[MrBug708]

Vote - Jeff

[Lathum]

Gotta leave for work soon.

VOTE ARDENT

[Mr. Wednesday]

#include <std_i'm_a_villager_disclaimer>

Wow, lots of voting early on.

[Poli]

Haters. Leave me alone. I'm an innocent villager.

[jeff061]

Not sure if we should be ganging up on a couple of historically active players (Fouts and Ardent).

Note: I have NO idea whether they are bad or not. I'm sure this post will bite me on the ass later on somehow :).

[Poli]

Not with me, I most certainly am a villager. You two need to change your vote.

[pennywisesb]

Word. This thread is dead.

[henry296]

With no information since i am only a villager this is a random shot in the dark.

vote fouts

[pennywisesb]

I Vote RPI-Fan because he always plays in these WW games but is barely ever present because of work or school.

[RPI-Fan]

I Vote RPI-Fan because he always plays in these WW games but is barely ever present because of work or school.

WTF??? I've played one WW game before and only near the end was I tied up!!! Excuse me for taking 19 credit hours and working 45 hours a week, and only being able to get on 6 days a week.

[jeff061]

Slacker.

[jeff061]

Unvote Sndvls
Vote Bek

[pennywisesb]

WTF??? I've played one WW game before and only near the end was I tied up!!! Excuse me for taking 19 credit hours and working 45 hours a week, and only being able to get on 6 days a week.

I know. The game you did that on was the reason I got killed, punk. ;) That was a completely random vote, I'm more than willing to change it if more evidence is brought forth.

[RPI-Fan]

I know. The game you did that on was the reason I got killed, punk. ;) That was a completely random vote, I'm more than willing to change it if more evidence is brought forth.

Sorry if I snapped a little... just didn't get the "always plays these WW games" part of it.:)

As per evidence: I'm a villager. :p Seriously, though, if I were a bad guy, would it really make sense for me to snap over a lone Day 1 vote? I'd be doing my damndest to stay low like I did last game.

[pennywisesb]

Any reason why you changed your vote Jeff?

[RPI-Fan]

Changing my vote, as I think Bek is "due":

Unvote saldana

Vote Bek

[Passacaglia]

I don't feel so bad about voting for people in this game at this point because they don't die.

vote SackAttack

for voting for Penny for the reason of making a lame joke. Obviously, this is subject to change.

Since I made a lame joke as well, I'm with you.


Vote SackAttack

[dubb93]

Just a villager here. I'm a little worried about Wednesday, since as best I can tell he claims to be a villager with an STD? Thats all the reason I need on day 1.

Vote Mr. Wednesday

[Poli]

WTF??? I've played one WW game before and only near the end was I tied up!!! Excuse me for taking 19 credit hours and working 45 hours a week, and only being able to get on 6 days a week.
Better than me....40 and 12.

[jeff061]

Any reason why you changed your vote Jeff?

I said I'd change if sndvls showed up, which is what I always do day 1. Bek has been absent in the games I've played with him. Fouts and Ardent contribute and I'm not going to pile on them.

[SackAttack]

Since I made a lame joke as well, I'm with you.


Vote SackAttack

You might come to regret that.

Just sayin'.

[SnDvls]

UNVOTE Jeff

as I said I would

[SnDvls]

vote Henry

his name sounds outlawish

[Bek]

yes i may be quiet but there is nothing i can do to change that...im on as often as i can be...some of us have school and work...i do get on here as much as I can...somedays are just better than others...vote for me because of what i said...not for how often I am on

[saldana]

jsut an out of the game fyi, i started a new job today, which is why i have been out of the thread. and since he undid me

unvote rpi
vote bek

[pennywisesb]

Unvote RPI because my reason was pretty much BS.

[SackAttack]

unvote pennywisesb

vote Bek

No particular reason, but since a couple of people here are taking a first-day vote just a little too seriously, I'll go with the "he's due" argument a couple others have posited.

[pennywisesb]

Vote Kingfc for being so quiet.

[kingfc22]

Vote Kingfc for being so quiet.
Sorry, was at work all day. I am a villager there is not much to talk about on day 1.

[SnDvls]

anyone got a vote count?

[Blade6119]

anyone got a vote count?

Bek is dead, i didnt count but i saw like 5-6 votes on bek and not that many on anyone else

[Fouts]

Bek is dead, i didnt count but i saw like 5-6 votes on bek and not that many on anyone else

I think we are just going to lock him up in the jail. We are more civilized in these parts.

[Blade6119]

I think we are just going to lock him up in the jail. We are more civilized in these parts.

Forgot...damn, i wanted bek to die so i could talk to him about everyone else in the game....
:mad: :(

[Neon_Chaos]

Bek - Fouts, jeff061, RPI-Fan, Saldana, SackAttack
Schmidty - ardent enthusiast
SackAttack - RealDeal, Passacaglia
jeff061 - kingfc22, MrBug708
Fouts - Bek, Schmidty, henry269
ardent enthusiast - Blade6119, Lathum
Mr. Wednesday - dubb93
henry269 - SnDvls
kingfc22 - pennywisesb

(Can anyone doublecheck if I got voting right? But yeah, Bek got the most votes.)

You all gather around Bek, ready to bind his hands together and send him off to jail. But then, he pulls out what seems to be a wad of money! He starts talking.

"Get your filthy hands off me! I am a Wealthy Baron! And I will give this damn money to anyone who kills him off for me!" (Bek chose to kill off the last person who voted for him.)

He points at SackAttack. The crowd immediately surrounds SackAttack and starts beating him to a pulp! In the middle of the frenzy, SackAttack tries to defend himself, but is unable to stave off all the blows. A swift punch to the back of the neck renders him unconscious. You all then tie a noose around his neck and hang him.

Bek give away the money to everyone, which really didn't amount to much since it was split between 16 men.

You look at SackAttack's belongings, and find several things. A pocketbook containing names, dates and locations. A pair of binoculars.... and binggo... a badge. "S.A.I.A. Sack Attack Investigation Agency" It is without a doubt that SackAttack was the Private Investigator!

You all feel bad... really bad... this does not bode well, indeed it doesn't.

It is now Night 1, Night Actions are due at 9AM EDT.

[Neon_Chaos]

I just want to say.

Wow.

[Blade6119]

h o l y c r a p

[henry296]

That's not a good start guys.

[Poli]

Oh. Friggin. No.

Hey can we just punt this game right now?

[RPI-Fan]

What the hell... why would Bek kill someone off when he has NO idea what direction to go? Stupid play.

[Blade6119]

What the hell... why would Bek kill someone off when he has NO idea what direction to go? Stupid play.

Its better then him being in jail...illini did it a few games back and just got lucky and hit a vamp...this time we got the other side of the spectrum

[kingfc22]

Uhhh. Well there goes two of our main roles down the toilet.

[dubb93]

Well that has to rank up there with one of the all time worst plays...good job Bek.

[Passacaglia]

We seem to be killing newbies on the first day pretty recently. That sucks.

[saldana]

gee, i cant think of who i might vote for tommorow night.....hmmmm.....let me think......who just gave us the royal butt screwing of the century.......hmmmmmm?

can i just do this now and get it overwith

vote bek

[Barkeep49]

Wow. In both games the democratic vote gets over turned. This has to be one of the more exciting first days for a game.

[Blade6119]

gee, i cant think of who i might vote for tommorow night.....hmmmm.....let me think......who just gave us the royal butt screwing of the century.......hmmmmmm?

can i just do this now and get it overwith

vote bek

Even though i agree, he is a confirmed villager now...why do this

[Poli]

Glad I could do my part.

[kingfc22]

Saldana - what's the rush to lynch an innocent villager. At this point in the game their is no reason to kill a now "useless" villager when we could use all the numbers we can get.

Also, if we vote for Bek then the Outlaws would just pile on and we would get no new information.

[kingfc22]

Even though i agree, he is a confirmed villager now...why do this

My thoughts exactly....

[RealDeal]

If bek had done nothing, he would have merely gone to jail and not died. But by using his power, the target dies and can't be freed.

[RPI-Fan]

Its better then him being in jail...illini did it a few games back and just got lucky and hit a vamp...this time we got the other side of the spectrum

Yea', exactly... the odds are roughly 80% that he'll hit a good guy, and in doing so makes himself useless. Just a dumb play... he had a chance of being a big help to us if he got released from jail late in the game.

[saldana]

Saldana - what's the rush to lynch an innocent villager. At this point in the game their is no reason to kill a now "useless" villager when we could use all the numbers we can get.

Also, if we vote for Bek then the Outlaws would just pile on and we would get no new information.


good point, i was still pissed off about the spawn game and now this, how many craptacular things can happen to us in one game cycle.

unvote bek

[RPI-Fan]

I guess it doesn't make sense to vote Bek... did anyone see anything in SackAttack's posts indicating he cleared someone or hit on someone on Night 0?

[Poli]

Wait, did SA vote for me on day one? This can't be good.

[Blade6119]

Wait, did SA vote for me on day one? This can't be good.

He cant hear me since he ignored me, but SA voted for bek..hence why bek killed him

[RPI-Fan]

vote pennywisesb

He said he wanted to be an Outlaw, and for a first day vote, that's good enough for me.

True, but the private investigator can determine if a player is an outlaw or not. By jailing somebody rather than lynching them, we can reduce the risk of eliminating innocents, which plays directly into the Outlaws' hands.

On the other hand, yeah, there is that pesky Jailbreak thing.

Just saying, the judge isn't useless. It's just not a slam-dunk benefit.


Yes, but he's also a division rival in the DKBL. That alone is good enough for me, but I figured an in-game reason would be more relevant here.



I dunno. Seems to me like MAKING the lame joke is a greater offense than a vote cast BECAUSE of the joke.

You might come to regret that.

Just sayin'.


unvote pennywisesb

vote Bek

No particular reason, but since a couple of people here are taking a first-day vote just a little too seriously, I'll go with the "he's due" argument a couple others have posited.

Hmm... he laid pretty heavy into pennywiseb, with a bogus reason -- I'm leaning pennywiseb right now, as this is as good an evidence as any against him... Passacaglia also looks a little suspicious as he jumped to penny's defense.

[Schmidty]

He cant hear me since he ignored me, but SA voted for bek..hence why bek killed him

What do you mean that he ignored you?

[Blade6119]

What do you mean that he ignored you?

Every person has an ignore list in their control panel, and any person you put on that list becomes invisible to you...he cant see any post i make in any thread while on his list, and im on his due to not believing him about being innocent in the other thread

[Schmidty]

Every person has an ignore list in their control panel, and any person you put on that list becomes invisible to you...he cant see any post i make in any thread while on his list, and im on his due to not believing him about being innocent in the other thread

He took a game that personally????? Wow.

[Poli]

He took a game that personally????? Wow.
Well, I can see his post due to your quote...but there's a little more to it than that. He'll be off the ignore list once I'm out of that game.

[Schmidty]

Well, I can see his post due to your quote...but there's a little more to it than that. He'll be off the ignore list once I'm out of that game.

Oh, ok.

[Poli]

Definitely no ill will.

[pennywisesb]

Hmm... he laid pretty heavy into pennywiseb, with a bogus reason -- I'm leaning pennywiseb right now, as this is as good an evidence as any against him... Passacaglia also looks a little suspicious as he jumped to penny's defense.

So you admit that its a bogus reason, but thats enough for you to vote for me? Come on.

[RPI-Fan]

So you admit that its a bogus reason, but thats enough for you to vote for me? Come on.

1. I didn't vote for you.
2. I was indicating that the bogus reason would be good cover.

I, like all of us, am grasping at straws here. It's the best thing I can think of to go on -- can you provide anything else to lead us in a certain (hopefully positive) direction?

[Poli]

I can. Don't vote for me. ;)

[pennywisesb]

I'm just trying to figure out how I got thrown into this whole mess. Touche on the voting, I meant casting doubt at me.

Now, I know after tonight we are really behind the 8 ball because we lost two important roles and tonight the outlaws will get to kill another one of us. Hopefully its not someone with a good role.

I think tonight will tell us something about the outlaws. I just don't think we need to get too carried away tossing blame around. Lets see what happens tonight.

[RPI-Fan]

I'm just trying to figure out how I got thrown into this whole mess. Touche on the voting, I meant casting doubt at me.

Now, I know after tonight we are really behind the 8 ball because we lost two important roles and tonight the outlaws will get to kill another one of us. Hopefully its not someone with a good role.

I think tonight will tell us something about the outlaws. I just don't think we need to get too carried away tossing blame around. Lets see what happens tonight.

Fair enough... but it will be something I consider tomorrow. And, just to give you some ammo, I will be gone most of the day tomorrow. Forgive me, but I'm working 6am-11:45am, followed by 4 hours of class, a 2 hour break (during which I will be at my other job, but will try to get on to chime in), followed by 3 more hours of class.

[MrBug708]

While it was a terribly unlucky pick, what is Bek supposed to do? It's not like he knows who anyone is and he doesnt want to die so of course he's going to pick someone.

[kingfc22]

While it was a terribly unlucky pick, what is Bek supposed to do? It's not like he knows who anyone is and he doesnt want to die so of course he's going to pick someone.
And he probably forgot that in this WW game you don't die when voted for. Rather you go to jail unless the judge is dead or in jail.

[Poli]

Definitely a series of unfortunate events.

[pennywisesb]

Fair enough... but it will be something I consider tomorrow. And, just to give you some ammo, I will be gone most of the day tomorrow. Forgive me, but I'm working 6am-11:45am, followed by 4 hours of class, a 2 hour break (during which I will be at my other job, but will try to get on to chime in), followed by 3 more hours of class.

Thankyou for providing your schedule. I'll be watching it closely to make sure you're not on between any of those times. ;)

Just kidding dude. I don't want this to turn into a me versus you thing so I'm sorry if thats where it headed.

[dubb93]

No point AT ALL in lynching Bek tomorrow, he is the one guy we know is on our side at this point. Just sucks he killed what appears to be our only seer. Hopefully we can get lucky with the witness and he can get a view at some point in this game.

FWIW when do you guys think the witness should use his role now that we have no seer the rest of the game? He could use it early and get 1 outlaw out of the way or he could wait a little longer and hope he survives. At that point we would have voting patterns to analyze.

Looking at the other roles us villagers have left I don't see much in the way of help...

Gypsy Twin: Not sure this can help us out @ all. It is just 2 people dead if the outlaws attack one of them. Although it COULD help us to not lynch the wrong person some day.

Sherriff: He can protect someone each night, but doesn't appear to be able to identify a bad guy.

Judge: To me at this point this guy helps the outlaws more than us. It gives them a chance to get down to 1 guy and then do a jail break. I hate to say it, but without a seer(to identify any good guys from the bad ones we have in jail) we may need to get rid of this guy early.

It looks like we have to have the witness get a good look at some point, but other than that we are going it blind the rest of the time. Hopefully someone slips up, but even if that happens I'm not sure throwing him in jail will do us much good without a definate answer to which side he is on.

[Bek]

sry i see that i messed this game up bad...i had to send that into Neon way way way too early because i wasnt going to be on till after the vote...and for hitting the seer, im sry...i know it doesnt make sense to kill me, but in all fairness i think i must die for killing an innocent...

VOTE Bek

[RealDeal]

If we put a guy in jail, we don't find out if he is an outlaw or not?

If so, I agree with Dubb; the Judge is a millstone around our necks.

[SackAttack]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

I never get to play with the good roles for long. :(

Good luck, guys.

[Blade6119]

so we need the judge to come forth a take one for the team?

[Blade6119]

so whats everyone thinking?

[Bek]

im thinking that since im in the clear, or at least i should be now that i royally messed up, i should be able to buckle down and find them outlaws...then make up a nice camp-fire story about it to tell the children one day

[Blade6119]

Whats your view on the judge?

[SackAttack]

im thinking that since im in the clear, or at least i should be now that i royally messed up, i should be able to buckle down and find them outlaws...then make up a nice camp-fire story about it to tell the children one day

Make sure it's a damn ghost story so I can scare the pants off of them.

[RPI-Fan]

sry i see that i messed this game up bad...i had to send that into Neon way way way too early because i wasnt going to be on till after the vote...and for hitting the seer, im sry...i know it doesnt make sense to kill me, but in all fairness i think i must die for killing an innocent...

VOTE Bek

That's silly man. You made a mistake, but I know as well as anyone about making big-time fuck-ups (see the end of WW XIII). You're forgiven: now change your vote and let's try to find them damned outlaws!

[jeff061]

My faith in my teammates lately is at an all time low. Oh well, at least I can't be wrongly duked in THIS game ;).

[Poli]

Very good point. You're still my boy, Jeff.

[jeff061]

Well, it keeps happening to me, so it must be something I'm doing wrong, hehe.

[Poli]

I'm thinking about committing a crime so I can be an outlaw.

[Neon_Chaos]

The Night passes, and nothing of note was heard in the blanket of darkness. You all wake up and look around. Noone is dead. You must now choose to send someone into the Jail at the end of the day.

It is now Day 2! Voting Deadline is at 9PM EDT.

[Poli]

Can I be an outlaw?

[Poli]

Just kidding.

[Poli]

Though the outlaws have to be stoked. I wish I were an outlaw. :)

[Passacaglia]

So does this mean the Sheriff protected someone?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Just a villager here. I'm a little worried about Wednesday, since as best I can tell he claims to be a villager with an STD? Thats all the reason I need on day 1.Yeesh. I guess a technical half-joke is a bad idea with this crowd. :p

[pennywisesb]

Bek, you need to take that vote off yourself. You messed up, fine. We need to move on and now you are the only confirmed villager so far. It would not be smart for us to vote you off. I'm also wondering if the no-kill is because the sherriff protected someone last night.

[Lathum]

I agree that losing the judge would probably benefit us but we really don't have much to go by. That was a most unfortunate turn of evens but at least we didn't lose anyone else last night.

[Poli]

Maybe they were looting. That's what outlaws do, right?

[RealDeal]

When the judge is alive, any person we lynch goes to jail, but we don't find out if they are good or bad. However the bad guys will know. Also, as long as the judge is alive, the outlaws can jailbreak. If the judge is thrown into prison, he will be alive, but will not have any way of escaping. However, all lynches will be true lynches (no jailbreak risk), and we will find out whether the person we killed is good or bad.

Does anyone disagree with this? If not, the judge should step forward and identified themselves so they can be incarcerated.

[jeff061]

I'd imagine there has to be something to say for having the ability to release wrongfully voted on innocents.

[RealDeal]

But how would we find out they were wrongly voted?

[Bek]

Bek, you need to take that vote off yourself. You messed up, fine. We need to move on and now you are the only confirmed villager so far. It would not be smart for us to vote you off. I'm also wondering if the no-kill is because the sherriff protected someone last night.


ok, ok i hear ya all...i was pissed at myself yesterday when i found out the news. but yiou are right, its time to move forward and fine those nasty no good scum of the earth outlaws.

UNVOTE Bek

[Bek]

Personally i think we need the judge to come foward...from all i can read he wouldve been helpful if we had the seer to clear people in the jail...since we dont have that anymore, i think he just further delays the process of killig outlaws and gives them a chance to execute a jail break...any thoughts?

[Blade6119]

thats a crappy move...asking him to come forward so we can get rid of him basically...would you if you were the judge? Give up your game?

[RealDeal]

I am the judge. Lock me up. The team is more valuable than the player.

[Blade6119]

I am the judge. Lock me up. The team is more valuable than the player.
Interesting...im intrigued now...this game could get very interesting very soon

[Blade6119]

dola

Vote Realdeal then

[Poli]

I wish I were an outlaw, does that count?

[RealDeal]

I hope people understand that I am voing for myself not for petulant reasons but because it is actually the best move for the good guys.

vote RealDeal

[Bek]

I am the judge. Lock me up. The team is more valuable than the player.

at least someone here is a team player...unlike someone i know...

thats a crappy move...asking him to come forward so we can get rid of him basically...would you if you were the judge? Give up your game?

[pennywisesb]

This game is taking a very bad turn for the worst here. Us good guys are going to have barely any secret roles left after the first 2 days.

[Blade6119]

at least someone here is a team player...unlike someone i know...

Oh, im a team player...i was just saying that sucks for the judge...i never said i wouldnt give myself up. Besides, im not the one who killed our reporter team-player :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :D

[Bek]

thx for coming foward

VOTE realDeal

[Poli]

I am Spartacus.

[pennywisesb]

I am Spartacus.

In that case, Vote Spartacus. :) Just kidding.

Apparently we are unanimous so far with our votes. Vote RealDeal

[Blade6119]

I am Spartacus.

Stop being stupid and discuss the game...its not funny...and this has everything to do with yesterday

[RealDeal]

I'm not nuts about the rules of this game. The judge role is of really dubious use to the villagers. Basically he can free people, but who cares because you can't tell if they are good or bad unless you kill them or the seer scans them. But why would the seer scan someone in jail?

Basically, the game should work where you find out the identity of someone when they are put in jail (like you have a trial before you jail them or something). Otherwise, the judge feature of this game is useless to the villagers, because all it does is keep bad guys alive so the outlaw leader can jailbreak them.

[SnDvls]

I am Spartacus.


NO! I am Spartacus


well this is going to be even harder now that we have no seer.

Thanks for stepping up RD, hopefully we'll help make it up to you by winning for the villagers.

vote RealDeal

[Poli]

Vote RealDeal.

[dubb93]

Sorry Realdeal, your role would be a great one if the investigator was still around. It would give everyone a 2nd chance, and allow us to KNOW the bad guys we have locked up. This is going to be a very difficult game for us to win either way, but I like our chances better with you in jail(due to getting to see voting blocks if we get an outlaw.)

Sorry man, but thanks for the reveal. I'll remember this in future games.

Vote Realdeal

[RealDeal]

And the one good thing is, I can't vote, but I can still participate and post, and everyone will know that I am trustworthy. Jail sucks, but it's better than dying.

[dubb93]

I'm not nuts about the rules of this game. The judge role is of really dubious use to the villagers. Basically he can free people, but who cares because you can't tell if they are good or bad unless you kill them or the seer scans them. But why would the seer scan someone in jail?

Basically, the game should work where you find out the identity of someone when they are put in jail (like you have a trial before you jail them or something). Otherwise, the judge feature of this game is useless to the villagers, because all it does is keep bad guys alive so the outlaw leader can jailbreak them.

Are you still allowed to vote from jail? At the very least you will still be able to contribute to us and we will know you can be trusted b/c I believe that once you are in jail you can still post, etc.

[jeff061]

Vote RealDeal then, I guess.

[dubb93]

And the one good thing is, I can't vote, but I can still participate and post, and everyone will know that I am trustworthy. Jail sucks, but it's better than dying.

AH, well then ignore my first question in the last post.

[Passacaglia]

Vote RealDeal

Slightly thinking he's up to something, but I have no idea what it would be.

[RealDeal]

Vote RealDeal

Slightly thinking he's up to something, but I have no idea what it would be.

Pass, the trust of my role will be easy to figure out. If next lynch, the guy is killed and not put in jail, then I am indeed the judge. If the next lynch the guy is put in jail, then I clearly can't be the judge, because once the judge is jailed no one else gets locked up.

[jeff061]

Indeed, this seems pretty clear cut. I didn't take into consideration the absence of the Inspector in my preovious post.

[Passacaglia]

That's true, but I'm always suspicious of people who vote for themselves, or ask to be voted for, I guess. Too weird of a play.

[RealDeal]

If the villagers win, I win. That's how I see it.

[henry296]

I find no fault with the logic that jailing the judge is the best course of action.

vote RealDeal

[Bek]

10 votes for realDeal if i am correct i think that should all but seal the vote for today

[RPI-Fan]

Vote RealDeal

Thanks, buddy.

[Fouts]

Good move RD. I just hope we lynch the right people.

Vote Realdeal

[RPI-Fan]

Might as well talk about something else since RealDeal is pretty much sacrified.

Last night had two possibilities:

1) Sheriff protected someone.
2) Outlaws found the MoLMF (Man of Loose Moral Fiber)

#2 is slightly more likely than #1. Even the sheriff doesn't know if his bodyguarding was successful... only the outlaws do. With that said, I don't think it is worthwhile at this point to have the sheriff step up... so we'll basically have to let this go for now.

Another thing: When do we want the witness to use his role? I think he should NOT do it tonight, and then tomorrow we'll see how things are going. But with the judge in jail, I'd like to give us villagers a shot of offing a bad guy without the witness revealing himself.

More musing:

-Blade hesistated to have RealDeal step up, and then quickly changed his opinion once RealDeal actually said he was the judge.
-Passacaglia expressed some doubt, too.
-SackAttack, the Investigater, DID initially go against pennwiseb on Day 1. I think if we get stuck at some point, that needs to be considered.
-Mr. W -- a normally talkative and tricky player, has been very quiet and straightforward thus far.

[Poli]

Maybe they went to the movies.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I've been quiet because my access at night has been nonexistent, so I'm doing a lot of catching up in my free time; it's early in the game, so there's less to analyze; and I'm spending a lot of time getting my house up to speed, so I'm not doing as much thinking about the game.

I think the whole lynching vs. jailing comes down to a sort of a prisoner's dilemma issue... from the point of view of any individual, it's better for them from a survival point of view to be putting folks in jail, but from the point of view of the "team" winning, the inability of the outlaws to jailbreak their number out of jail is a big win. One thing we need to be wary of, not only are we wasting one day of voting by putting RealDeal away right now, we may have to waste another putting him back in the clink if the outlaws decide to break him out.

[Mr. Wednesday]

That said, I think it's probably more of a positive to avoid any possibility of a setback due to a jailbreak, so Vote RealDeal.

[Passacaglia]

Today is not your day, Wednesday. The rules say that people in jail don't go free if the judge is jailed.

(That remark about today not being your day is because today is Tuesday, not Wednesday. That is all.)

[saldana]

just home from work, i see the logic in this play too,

thanks RD

vote realdeal

[dubb93]

we may have to waste another putting him back in the clink if the outlaws decide to break him out.

The way I look at it, if that happens it isn't a wasted day since they will have wasted their night action breaking him out and we will be back to square 1. It will just add another day of posts to analyze. Those are my 2 cents.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I shouldn't think we'd get a whole lot out of the posts that day. :p

[Mr. Wednesday]

The rules say that people in jail don't go free if the judge is jailed.Yeah, but there's no one in jail right now, so that specification in the rules doesn't really get us a whole lot. There's no reason to think the outlaws couldn't break the judge out of jail.

[RealDeal]

If they break me out of jail, that's great: they waste their best power to free a good guy. I wholeheartedly urge the outlaws to jailbreak me.

[Neon_Chaos]

Yeah, but there's no one in jail right now, so that specification in the rules doesn't really get us a whole lot. There's no reason to think the outlaws couldn't break the judge out of jail.
As a clarification. In the moment that the judge is jailed/killed, the people in jail do not go free. If the Outlaws do a jailbreak everyone in jail is freed.

[Poli]

WOO!