Time for a Politics Forum Section? (non-bitchfest thread)

[VPI97]

If we're not going to have a separate forum, could we at least have a thread rating system like there is in the dynasty forum? That way when I see a thread rated crap, I'll know to avoid it completely.
Ideally, you'd want a posting system on the board that would require a thread starter to select a thread type from a dropdown box (like 'General', 'News', 'Football', 'Baseball', 'Religion', 'Politics', etc). And then we could add a thread filter at the top of the forum index that would allow a user to only display those threads that fall into the categories that they want to see.
I could write either mod, if need be.

[Swaggs]

Think anyone will actually see this for awhile? ;)

[VPI97]

Think anyone will actually see this for awhile? ;)
I wasn't expecting more than 5 responses.

[cthomer5000]

VPI can do anything with code. I say give it a go.

[WSUCougar]

Think anyone will actually see this for awhile? ;)
Shut up, bitch.*









*Trying to add drama and mud-slinging to increase viewership :D

[sterlingice]

I'll move my comments over here since I made the mistake of taking the other thread seriously. Silly me :)

I'm really opposed to this idea because it will completely gut the General Forums.

I'll use the Renquist thread as an example for the dividing line where a political thread becomes crap in my mind. It is not when there are people debating the possiblity of, say, Roe v Wade being overturned or the political ramifications as to shifting some portion of the country more red or blue. But, it's when someone starts calling someone else a fascist or a baby killer or says one point of view is mindless or says all red staters or blue staters or conservatives or liberals are morons. The problem is that it's a crazy fine line- it's the difference between being able to say President Bush came off as looking dumb answering a question versus he's always an effing moron.

But if anything with any sort of political slant is sent into this other forum, general is just going to suffer greatly for content, and, by extension, I think a lot more people will just eventually leave from boredom than if SD just started banning everyone who started escalating political threads (not that this is a good option, either).

I don't buy the argument that we lose "valuable info" in pointless threads. I think we lose more "valuable info" when good discussions descend into chaos because a handful of people can't control themselves. A lot of people seem to have this view of how things happen here. Which makes me wonder, why not just ban these handful of people rather than screw up the board? Tho I suppose it would result in such a messy upheaval as it stands to reason that it would be some of the more high profile people that would be kicked out and that would lead to a bunch of others to pitch a fit because one side had more people kicked out or vice versa.
SI

[flere-imsaho]

The filter drop-down wouldn't necessarily solve the "good threads turning into partisan mudslinging" problem, unfortunately.

Good ideas that have merit, nonetheless. I've only been a member of the board for a year, though, so I'd rather have those who have been here longer make these kind of decisions.

[Icy]

I could write either mod, if need be.

It sounds good and i know you can do it :)

[Klinglerware]

My posts from the other thread:

Yeah, I don't think a separate forum is really necessary. If people don't want to go into political threads, they won't go in to the obvious ones and will back away quickly if they do unintentionally enter one.

Perhaps we should bring the FOF/TCY strategy section back to the general discussion? Strategy siphons off some FOF/TCY-related talk on the general discussion section, yet it isn't big enough to be a consistent forum on it's own. There is some overlap between the general FOFC and strategy discussion anyway, so perhaps returning strategy back to the general section will spark more sports text-sim related discussion.

In response to kcchief19's point about how the strategy section was split out to help new members find FOF/TCY related info:


That's a good reason for splitting it out--but that strategy section really isn't self-perpetuating and seems rarely visited. People ask questions about TCY/FOF strategy in the general discussion section anyway (I would probably do the same, since it would get more exposure from the forum membership), so I think it might be a good idea to think about reconsolidating the two sections...

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

The filter drop-down wouldn't necessarily solve the "good threads turning into partisan mudslinging" problem, unfortunately.
That's what I was thinking.

Is there a way to filter out threads based on certain words? For example, if I didn't want to read any threads with the word "Vikings" or "Packers" in them, can that be done?

[digamma]

My post from the other thread:

I come down on the don't separate side--partially, I admit, because of laziness--I'm not sure how often I'd go to the "political discussion" forum. That's my problem--and would be my loss (if, indeed, it was a loss).

However, another reason is that I think the political threads (before their degeneration) often contain excellent insights and fantastic local or specialized knowledge. I'd hate to lose that because those types of contributors aren't heading over to the politics board.

I've also seen this happen before on another board. When a separate politics forum was created, it quickly became a partisan bitchfest among a predictable subset of forum members. I don't want to see that happen here (I'd argue, as above, that our political threads often contain worthwhile information from a variety of contributors).

[Buzzbee]

That's what I was thinking.

Is there a way to filter out threads based on certain words? For example, if I didn't want to read any threads with the word "Vikings" or "Packers" in them, can that be done?
But then you'd miss out on all the threads about those liberal fudge packers.

:D



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[stevew]

A "sports" and "Sports gaming" only forum would be a better move than to split off political mudslinging.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

But then you'd miss out on all the threads about those liberal fudge packers.

:D



*Note: This post was meant to be entirely humorous and light-hearted. It was in no way meant to offend anyone or to stir up political bullshit. This post does not necessarily reflect the views of this station. Does not include tax, tag or title. Objects in mirror may appear smaller. Batteries not included. Viewers under 18 not permitted.

LOL! I actually had all those damn Werewolf threads in mind when I wrote that.

[HomerJSimpson]

The filter drop-down wouldn't necessarily solve the "good threads turning into partisan mudslinging" problem, unfortunately.

Good ideas that have merit, nonetheless. I've only been a member of the board for a year, though, so I'd rather have those who have been here longer make these kind of decisions.


It doesn't, and I was going to point that out in the other thread before the bomb went off, but I think it might help some. If a thread gets too political, it could always moved to the other catagory. I don't know, really. When it comes down to it I don't think there is a soution that can completely fix the problem. I think VPI's idea may be the closest we can get.

[sterlingice]

LOL! I actually had all those damn Werewolf threads in mind when I wrote that. That's ok. I'm sure that when he said "liberal fudge packers", he must have been talking about people at Hershey's that put too much chocolate into a box :D

SI

[Godzilla Blitz]

Reposting from the other thread as well...

I like the idea of creating a separate religion/politics thread. I do think, however, that the same respect that is (theoretically) demanded in the regular forums be demanded there as well. I don't think "Political/Religous" should give you the right to be abusive or disrespectful. Partisan, fine; rude, no.

I don't think the board would suffer from the creation of a separate forum for such discussion. If anything, the board has become so active now that good, active threads drop to page 2 too quickly.

Although this is not intended as a swipe at anyone and I enjoy reading the political posts of several people here, I know that one of the reasons I don't spend as much time here is the particular political nature of the board now. I fully realize that I'm always free to ignore the threads, and I try to. However, their visibility (somewhat like trying to not look at car wrecks) and the fact that good, apolitical threads suddenly turn violently politcal make it hard for me to avoid them. When I get involved in reading them, it invariably leaves me feeling like I could have used my free time better. All things considered, I think I just click on less topics.

[Subby]

mmm...fudge.

[Buzzbee]

On a serious note, I tend to avoid threads with obvious political leanings, as I get tired of reading the same posters tossing out the same views, or defending thier political leanings no matter the subject. Very rarely do I see someone change their position or admit that the other side has a point. As a result, any positive messages that might possibly come out of them get lost in the partisanship.

That being said, I'd be against a political forum for several reasons:

1) There are some relevant political issues that are beneficial to the general forum, IMO. Renquist's death is obviously news, but is certainly going to be surrounded by politics.

2) If people aren't interested the same people spewing the same political stuff, don't click on those threads.

3) If a thread turns political and you don't care anymore, stop reading. No need for a separate forum for this.

4) Reign in the offenders rather than fuel their fire. I can count on two hands those most likely to participate. A simple warning to them to keep partisan posts civil or face punishment should suffice, and if it doesn't, then they were warned.

Those are just my thoughts. Take them for what they are worth. Thoughts.

[HomerJSimpson]

My post from the other thread:


Your reasons are my reasons. I actually do have an open mind when it comes to these discusion, because I'm not so delusional to think that I "know" everything. Lots of good information are contained in many of those threads, and I'd hate to miss them. I do hate that threads way too often become a place for partisan hacks (both liberal and conservative) to spew out the party spin, or make personal attacks on those with whom they disagree. There is no way to stop that, though. In my opinion, this board is better off with the good post than it would be without the other. (Did that sentence make sense?)

[Arles]

I have to admit, the idea of having a "mud pit" of political threads that go bad is a much better idea than a separate forum. It just involves more work for Ben and company.

[Subby]

4) Reign in the offenders rather than fuel their fire. I can count on two hands those most likely to participate. A simple warning to them to keep partisan posts civil or face punishment should suffice, and if it doesn't, then they were warned. I think this is a pretty solid idea, but it would most certainly require more vigilant moderation. In other words, more mods (which isn't a bad idea if this idea were implemented in lieu of a separate forum.)

[John Galt]

Blacky.. you're out of line dude. You're a good guy, and all that, but the line was passed about four states ago, and I think you really need to shut down the monitor, take a couple deep breaths and chill out for a while, man.

It's a message board. It's a meeting house for folks with common interests, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, to meet and discuss things that pertain to their common interests.

What it's not.. or at least what it shouldn't be.. is a place that makes you so angry or pissed that this kind of hatred comes out.

I think both sides of this case are wrong, and over the line, but then again, it's the Godwin's Law, FOFC Corollary.

"The longer a thread goes, the more certain it will devolve into a political slap fight that will send a majority of the readers out of the thread, and preventing further discussion of whatever issue that thread was about. Any further threads created to foster discussion that deal with the topic will resume the political slap fight"

With regards to the Politics Forum?

I don't think it'd work. We've seen how innocent threads devolve into polticial fights at the drop of a hat. Unless you had a guy constantly monitoring each thread, it would get really nasty/partisan/whatever before it got moved

I think you were looking for the "other" thread. :D :p

[kurtism]

Perhaps I am missing something, but how would the creation of a new forum serve to render posts in that forum invisible? First, clicking the "Show New Threads" button serves to bring up ALL new posts, regardless of sub-forum of origin. Second, if you are concerned about "missing" these vital posts, how hard is it to click into that forum? It may necessitate an extra step, but it isn't like these posts would be exiled to Siberia...

[SirFozzie]

Shitfuck. Stupid timer.

[Klinglerware]

And of course, we've seen sports-related threads get pretty nasty too: steroids, the NBA minimum age, etc...

[John Galt]

Perhaps I am missing something, but how would the creation of a new forum serve to render posts in that forum invisible? First, clicking the "Show New Threads" button serves to bring up ALL new posts, regardless of sub-forum of origin. Second, if you are concerned about "missing" these vital posts, how hard is it to click into that forum? It may necessitate an extra step, but it isn't like these posts would be exiled to Siberia...

There's a "Show New Threads" button? Wow. Who knew? I just go to "General Discussion."

[HomerJSimpson]

4) Reign in the offenders rather than fuel their fire. I can count on two hands those most likely to participate. A simple warning to them to keep partisan posts civil or face punishment should suffice, and if it doesn't, then they were warned.




See, I agree with that, but it will never happen. Skydog doesn't read every post (nor do I think he can/should). And if he starts using a heavy hand, then we get the whiney/crying idiot threads that are 100 times worse than the political threads. More mods might help, but I really don't think that will make very many people happy either, because then it will be x number of moderators they'll be crying about.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

[Subby]

There's a "Show New Threads" button? Wow. Who knew? I just go to "General Discussion." Thats cuz your stupid.

[John Galt]

Thats cuz your stupid.

:cool:

[kurtism]

There's a "Show New Threads" button? Wow. Who knew? I just go to "General Discussion."

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/search.php?do=getnew

:)

[John Galt]

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/search.php?do=getnew

:)

I still like my way better. I don't want hattrick and when I want a dynasty, I know where to go. :)

[Passacaglia]

There's a "Show New Threads" button? Wow. Who knew? I just go to "General Discussion."

I think this post really speaks to the heart of the matter. I can't STAND those fuckers who hit the Show New Threads button instead of just going to General Discussion.

[Swaggs]

Shut up, bitch.*









*Trying to add drama and mud-slinging to increase viewership :D

Oh no you didn't!

[Subby]

I think this post really speaks to the heart of the matter. I can't STAND those fuckers who hit the Show New Threads button instead of just going to General Discussion. I will cut you.

[Antmeister]

I see where everyone is going with it and I was almost willing to go in this direction, but then I realized why people want a seperate area. The only reason people want a seperate forum is because of how most of them degenerate into name calling, hatred filled posts and some borderline trolling. This happens without the need of politics though.

By creating a seperate section, they will still have to follow the same rules unless you want to make it an "Enter at your own risk area." If that were to happen, most of the people who primarily come to the board motivated to talk about politics will dwindle since a lot of the posters actually like to have a dialouge and not an insult ridden tirades. Now if it weren't a "free to say anything area", I don't see why we have a need for this since everyone will have to follow the same rules.

And what happens when the topic can fall in both areas. The latest hurricane threads can fall into general discussion, but there are politics involved. People will talk about the tragedy (General discussion) and people will talk about what should have been done (Politics). And what if Hell Atlantic were to start another one of his sexual fantasy threads that dealt with Barbara Bush? Or what if someone posts their favorite song from Kanye West? I mean these have the potential to degenerate into political bashing really quick and I don't see how they can be seperated.

To be honest, I would like to see some rules, or at least guidelines to these forums. Sometimes there is that sticky of the top for links, but maybe it could be expanded a bit with some general guidelines.

Yet that is easy for me to say since I have no idea where to start. I mean I actually enjoy reading some of the risque material on the board, but somewhere there is a line that is crossed and I can't really define where the line is. One of the recent threads that was locked is a clear example. Someone posted about an email they received from a friend who knows someone at the Astrodome (hmmmm.....sounds complicated. No this is not a Flasch post). Anyways upon reading the thread, it was pretty much racist and mean spirited. Yet the original poster stated that it was not their opinion. How would you moderate that? Especailly when you see another thread about some guy called the "Amazing Racist?". Sure the Amazing Racist is a comedian, but where the frick is that line for questionable material? I didn't really care for either and promptly left the thread.

So in other words Skydog is basically moderating a place where he trying to balance against not too offensive and not too sterile and that is what has made this place fascinating to me and why I have always come back. That is why it would be difficult to come up with a set of general rules and why having a seperate section may not be a good idea.

[End of Chapter 1]

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

And what if Hell Atlantic were to start another one of his sexual fantasy threads that dealt with Barbara Bush? Was that a real fantasy? Ick.

EDIT - unless of course it's Barbara the twin, then I can totally understand.

[wbatl1]

LOL! I actually had all those damn Werewolf threads in mind when I wrote that.

Then we just need to filter out threads with a million plus replies :D

[Klinglerware]

Was that a real fantasy? Ick.



Different strokes for different folks...

[Antmeister]

Was that a real fantasy? Ick.

EDIT - unless of course it's Barbara the twin, then I can totally understand.

Hell Atlantic is a unique individual and his lust shows no bounderies. :D

[Honolulu_Blue]

I don't think there need to be a separate political forum. I think if people start threads with "POL" or "POLITICAL" in them, that should be enough. Sure, threads (see: this one) that start off as non-political can devolve quickly (quicker and quicker each day it seems), well then the folks can stop reading it or hope that who ever started the thread will change the title (don't ask Easy Mac to do this, he doesn't like changing titles of his threads).

Also, adding "No Politics" to a thread titel seems to work. People have been respectful of the Terps' "Katrina" thread and Mizzou's "Iraq Blog" thread and I would hope that would be respectful to other threads.

At the end of the day, however, I don't really care. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

[Bee]

Reposting from the other thread as well...

I like the idea of creating a separate religion/politics thread. I do think, however, that the same respect that is (theoretically) demanded in the regular forums be demanded there as well. I don't think "Political/Religous" should give you the right to be abusive or disrespectful. Partisan, fine; rude, no.

I don't think the board would suffer from the creation of a separate forum for such discussion. If anything, the board has become so active now that good, active threads drop to page 2 too quickly.

Although this is not intended as a swipe at anyone and I enjoy reading the political posts of several people here, I know that one of the reasons I don't spend as much time here is the particular political nature of the board now. I fully realize that I'm always free to ignore the threads, and I try to. However, their visibility (somewhat like trying to not look at car wrecks) and the fact that good, apolitical threads suddenly turn violently politcal make it hard for me to avoid them. When I get involved in reading them, it invariably leaves me feeling like I could have used my free time better. All things considered, I think I just click on less topics.

I'll just ditto what GB said since it sums up my opinion almost exactly.

[Antmeister]

This should really be a poll.

[VPI97]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png

[Swaggs]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png

Looks great to me.

[Schmidty]

And of course, we've seen sports-related threads get pretty nasty too: steroids, the NBA minimum age, etc...

Yeah, but that's on a different level. I mean, I hate UofM, but that doesn't mean I hate the people that like UofM. Hell, my own dad is a huge UofM fan, and I love him to death. :)

[HomerJSimpson]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png


That does look great. I hope it gets done and people use it correctly.

[st.cronin]

I am against a separate forum for politics because the problem isn't politics per se.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yeah, but that's on a different level. I mean, I hate UofM, but that doesn't mean I hate the people that like UofM. Hell, Honolulu_Blue is a huge UofM fan, and I love him to death. :)
Awww... Schmidty, I love you too, man! :D

[Ryan S]

I could write either mod, if need be.
I have implemented thread ratings in General Discussion. We can give it a shot this week to see what people think of it.

[Schmidty]

Awww... Schmidty, I love you too, man! :D

Don't twist my words!!!!!!

;)

[Raiders Army]

Not to threadjack, but how do we see the rating of the thread?

[VPI97]

Not to threadjack, but how do we see the rating of the thread?Look in the upper right corner of any thread...you'll see a dropdown to rate the thread. Once a thread has enough ratings (5? 10?), a cumulative star rating will show up in the forum level view.

[Buccaneer]

I'm sorry but I think a rating system is a terrible idea. It means nothing, a 1-star thread is another's 5-star thread, and vice versa.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Don't twist my words!!!!!!

;)
I couldn't resist!

My brother is a Sparty, through and through. I know what you say...

[Schmidty]

I couldn't resist!

My brother is a Sparty, through and through. I know what you say...

Well, at least we know the U-M disease isn't genetic. :D

[Ryan S]

I'm sorry but I think a rating system is a terrible idea. It means nothing, a 1-star thread is another's 5-star thread, and vice versa.
Right now it is being run on a trial basis, so if it does not work as intended I can easily get rid of it.

[Buccaneer]

I think if more people here use the IGNORE function, the better it'll be (and less quoting). I would say 99% of the problems (me included) are those emotionally reacting to a bad post.

[panerd]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png

That's awesome. (Especially the werewolf logo! I can't wait to filter that out.) Is it really that easy to work? If so, let's do it.

[Buccaneer]

Right now it is being run on a trial basis, so if it does not work as intended I can easily get rid of it.
Wow, I single-handedly knocked this thread from a 4-star to a 3-star - on a trial basis of course.

[HomerJSimpson]

Man, it is going to take me all night to put a "1" star rating on every Werewolf thread. :)

[Buccaneer]

Man, it is going to take me all night to put a "1" star rating on every Werewolf thread. :)
I think there will be quite a few others helping out - on a trial basis.

[HomerJSimpson]

I think there will be quite a few others helping out - on a trial basis.


Thank you -on a trial basis. :)

[stevew]

Man, it is going to take me all night to put a "1" star rating on every Werewolf thread. :)
I'll stay the course with you.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png
I like the Werewolf little symbol. It's cute.

[Swaggs]

I like the Werewolf little symbol. It's cute.

Cute enough for you to click on the thread?

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Cute enough for you to click on the thread?
Cute enough to tempt me. Not necessarily cute enough for me to play.

[Draft Dodger]

I like the Werewolf little symbol. It's cute.

I was just going to jokingly say "don't forget the werewolf filter" but I guess the joke's on me.

[Schmidty]

Cute enough to tempt me. Not necessarily cute enough for me to play.

BUT IT'S SO FUN!!!!!!

Who cares if it's nerdy? It's a fun time-waster, and people get the privilege of talking to ME. :D

[cthomer5000]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png
Is there any reason not to do this? Lets do it and do it now!

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

BUT IT'S SO FUN!!!!!!

Who cares if it's nerdy? It's a fun time-waster, and people get the privilege of talking to ME. :D
But I don't know how to play. Which means I will suck at it. And nothing's fun if you suck.

[st.cronin]

And nothing's fun if you suck.

too many jokes... must resist ...

[HomerJSimpson]

But I don't know how to play. Which means I will suck at it. And nothing's fun if you suck.


No, I can think of one thing...

[Draft Dodger]

oh man, Farrah.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Wow I just re-read that. What the hell was I thinking?

[Draft Dodger]

Wow I just re-read that. What the hell was I thinking?

I have no idea. but thank you!

[Galaxy]

Thanks Farrah! :D

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Still not going to play Werewolf.

[Arles]

Hey, sweetie, you're on your own with this one. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Hey, sweetie, you're on your own with this one. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/images/smilies/popcorn.gif
What, you're not going to defend my honor?

Bastard.

[Arles]

Oh, yeah, that paper I had you sign in the dead of night a few months back - it was a "husband amnesty" contract. It says you can't hold anything you read here against me and I am exempt from defending your "message board" honor. :cool:

[Axxon]

Oh, yeah, that paper I had you sign in the dead of night a few months back - it was a "husband amnesty" contract. It says you can't hold anything you read here against me and I am exempt from defending your "message board" honor. :cool:

If only Mr and Mrs Racist had signed the same contract... :mad:

;)

[Swaggs]

I give Farrah five stars!

[Schmidty]

If only Mr and Mrs Racist had signed the same contract... :mad:

;)

Dude, just stop throwing gas on the fire.

[Buccaneer]

I give Farrah more stars if possible. You try carrying a bowling ball in your gut during a hot Arizona summer. She has got be close now, seems like she's been 9 mo. pregnant for 3 months now.

By the way, the company will be called "Grey Dog and Baby Software".

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

I give Farrah more stars if possible. You try carrying a bowling ball in your gut during a hot Arizona summer. She has got be close now, seems like she's been 9 mo. pregnant for 3 months now.
Baby's due on Sunday. If there's no action before then, we're inducing on Monday.

[Axxon]

If I recall correctly, and I do ;) Arles and Farrah had a similar incident when she first came on ( airplane, muslem band? ). I'm sure they're quite aware of what this couple is going through but they hung in there and showed who they were.

I'm not a fan of their politics but I enjoy reading their posts and discussing things with them. I'm glad they stuck around. :D

[HomerJSimpson]

I give Farrah more stars if possible. You try carrying a bowling ball in your gut during a hot Arizona summer. She has got be close now, seems like she's been 9 mo. pregnant for 3 months now.

By the way, the company will be called "Grey Dog and Baby Software".


That is true. Plus, she is voting for two.

[Schmidty]

Baby's due on Sunday. If there's no action before then, we're inducing on Monday.

Are you scared?

I would be.

[Axxon]

Dude, just stop throwing gas on the fire.

No I can't.

I was here at the beginning and took the high road and have no desire to have a discussion about it but after thinking about it, I can see no other purpose to that post.

I don't, didn't have a problem with the Nobles until that post and I defended them when she was banned the first time. Now, my tolerance has run out.

I'm not advocating anything and I'm not pushing an agenda but in one sentence I'm telling them what I think about what she said. I didn't attack them, call them out nor in any way do something intending to stir the pot.

I'll just say this. I saw her post early this morning and the most incendiary thing I posted, I posted hours later with this post. Believe me, I'm practicing restraint not passion.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Are you scared?

I would be.
Very much so. I'm scared that something's going to go wrong. I'm scared of the pain. I'm scared that I'm going to poo all over the table, and myself and Arlie will get that on camera.

[Schmidty]

Very much so. I'm scared that something's going to go wrong. I'm scared of the pain. I'm scared that I'm going to poo all over the table, and myself and Arlie will get that on camera.

My wife said that she went poo and that her mom and dad were in the room. So it'll probably happen. But don't worry, I'm sure at that point you won't really care, and the doctors and nurses see that stuff all the time. :)

[SirFozzie]

Many hugs Farrah.. be thinkin of ya this weekend.

You'll do fine, I bet.

What is your most fervent wish after you give birth.. to sleep on your stomach again? :)

[Schmidty]

No I can't.

I was here at the beginning and took the high road and have no desire to have a discussion about it but after thinking about it, I can see no other purpose to that post.

I don't, didn't have a problem with the Nobles until that post and I defended them when she was banned the first time. Now, my tolerance has run out.

I'm not advocating anything and I'm not pushing an agenda but in one sentence I'm telling them what I think about what she said. I didn't attack them, call them out nor in any way do something intending to stir the pot.

I'll just say this. I saw her post early this morning and the most incendiary thing I posted, I posted hours later with this post. Believe me, I'm practicing restraint not passion.

Dude, that's fine, but I'm just saying that it's not doing anything other than keeping the fire hot. I'm sure people will be dealth with shortly.

[Galaxy]

Very much so. I'm scared that something's going to go wrong. I'm scared of the pain. I'm scared that I'm going to poo all over the table, and myself and Arlie will get that on camera.

Will you put Arlie in pain during the delivery? :)

[SirFozzie]

Hey There's an idea, Farrah.. Tell Arlie to stand next to you in the delivery room..

and for every twinge of pain, HAUL OFF AND SLUG HIM IN THE ARM!

See how many colors you can make his arm :)

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

What is your most fervent wish after you give birth.. to sleep on your stomach again? :)
Thanks Foz. :)

Actually I'm really looking forward to a good margarita.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Will you put Arlie in pain during the delivery? :) Thinking about making him get a bikini wax while I'm in labor. Pain's probably about the same. :D

[Schmidty]

Thinking about making him get a bikini wax while I'm in labor. Pain's probably about the same. :D

How about a vastectomy? I bet that would make it much equal pain-wise. :)

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

How about a vastectomy? I bet that would make it much equal pain-wise. :)
If I could make him pass a kidney stone, I'd do that. I hear those hurt like hell.

[Axxon]

How about a vastectomy? I bet that would make it much equal pain-wise. :)

What if he's not endowed enough for this? Could he get a littlectomy instead? :D

[Arles]

Alright, this thread's getting a "1" now.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

What if he's not endowed enough for this? Could he get a littlectomy instead? :D
Ouch.http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

[Axxon]

Ouch.http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

Hey, I said IF. :)

[KWhit]

What if he's not endowed enough for this? Could he get a littlectomy instead? :D
Do you speak from experience?

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Do you speak from experience?

Not that there's anything wrong with that!
You are now my favorite FOFC'er. :D

[Axxon]

Do you speak from experience?

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Ohh just missed getting it in before the IF post. Woulda been golden but now it's merely a silver coulda been a contender. :)

[Godzilla Blitz]

Here's a mockup of what I'm talking about:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/fofc_mockup.png That's slick. If it works easily and doesn't slow things down, that would be a neat feature for more reasons than just the separation of political threads.

Getting all the categories tweaked might take a bit of time, but I really like the idea.

[Axxon]

You are now my favorite FOFC'er. :D

How does Arlie feel about that?

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

How does Arlie feel about that?
He's my favorite husband, so he doesn't count. Can't be in both categories.

[Arles]

He's my favorite husband, so he doesn't count. Can't be in both categories.
Woohoo! I must have passed Don the repair man this week - Score!

[Axxon]

He's my favorite husband, so he doesn't count. Can't be in both categories.

Of course, you live in mormon country so can we read more into this innocent statement? ;)

Now we're talking scandal here folks. :D

[Arles]

Day late and a dollar short all night, huh Axxon? ;)

[Schmidty]

Of course, you live in mormon country so can we read more into this innocent statement? ;)

Now we're talking scandal here folks. :D

How many husbands are Mormons allowed to have? Better yet, how many legally-sanctioned life-partners are gay Mormons allowed to have? :D

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Of course, you live in mormon country so can we read more into this innocent statement? ;)

Now we're talking scandal here folks. :D
I wish I could have a wife or two. Thought about moving to Colorado City and finding one. I'm not a very good cook and need someone to cook for me. I clean pretty well, but it would be nice to have someone to do it when I don't feel like it....

[Axxon]

Day late and a dollar short all night, huh Axxon? ;)

Normally, but not in the Father Guido Sarducci way...

If you've ever heard his bit about "paying for your sins" you'd get this one. :)

[Buccaneer]

He's my favorite husband, so he doesn't count. Can't be in both categories.
That probably puts me in the category of the forgotten uncle that only gets Christmas cards because Edna sends out her mailing list to everyone.

I got nothing.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

That probably puts me in the category of the forgotten uncle that only gets Christmas cards because Edna sends out her mailing list to everyone.

I got nothing.
Naw, you were my favorite FOFC'er after you posted that animated cartoon representing the political threads...then Draft Dodger took over for a really great comment that made me laugh and laugh...now it's KWhit.

[KWhit]

I wish I could have a wife or two. Thought about moving to Colorado City and finding one. I'm not a very good cook and need someone to cook for me. I clean pretty well, but it would be nice to have someone to do it when I don't feel like it....
You mean wives are supposed to cook and clean???

Damn. I missed the memo.

[Axxon]

I wish I could have a wife or two. Thought about moving to Colorado City and finding one. I'm not a very good cook and need someone to cook for me. I clean pretty well, but it would be nice to have someone to do it when I don't feel like it....

I've heard that rationale used by a few mormon women actually. Just recently I was informed by a rather attractive mormon lass that they don't actually believe in polygamy just merely polygyny.

*SIGH*

What I really wouldn't have minded is if she practiced polyandry but no, I was not so lucky....




Relax, just google it and you'll be fine. :D

[Draft Dodger]

You are now my favorite FOFC'er. :D

well, I had a nice 3-week run...

[KWhit]

Naw, you were my favorite FOFC'er after you posted that animated cartoon representing the political threads...then Draft Dodger took over for a really great comment that made me laugh and laugh...now it's KWhit.
And you are definitely my favorite wife of a text sim developer who posts at FOFC. So you've got that going for you.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

well, I had a nice 3-week run...
No worries DD, I have a feeling you'll be back on top one day. :)

[KWhit]

No worries DD, I have a feeling you'll be back on top one day. :)

:eek:

[Draft Dodger]

No worries DD, I have a feeling you'll be back on top one day. :)

geez, you just can't stop this woman

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Oh good grief. I probably should stop posting for the evening.

[HomerJSimpson]

Oh good grief. I probably should stop posting for the evening.


No, no. Please don't.

[Arles]

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[Glengoyne]

On the Should we have a political forum..I say no. It might seriously impact the number of regular viewers of the general forum. It wouldn't get visited or used to boot. And it would cause problems when threads migrate into the political arena pretty much on their own accord. It happens.

I don't understand the phenomenon of a thread being ruined either though. That seems to be a common theme among many of those that support a new forum. I figure that if someone posts something that you consider inapropriate enough to "ruin" a thread, then you should just ignore it. If that means ignoring the poster, then do so, if you'd rather just ignore their ridiculous posts, then do that. The deal is don't bitch about it. Just live with it and move on. Call the poster a moron, and get on with your life. If a post is in such poor taste as to drive you out of a thread, then it probably isn't even worth responding to. So ignore it.

As for the favorite FOFCer bit...I think I once said I wouldn't vote for Farrah if she ran for political office, so I'm probably off the short list for that position. Probably on another list actually.

Oh and Farrah. Good luck with the whole labor and delivery thing. For Arlie...the biggest thing I remember about my first is that after 40 someodd hours with only a couple of hours of sleep, I remember going to the hospital room accompanying my wife and a brand new daughter, and thinking "What the hell am I going to do?". My wife was unconscious, she had a C-section, and I was facing the prospect of dealing with the baby for the forseeable future. I was pretty worried...lucky for me the nurses actually took care of everything. So don't worry...You'll figure it out, and if you don't the nurses will set you straight.

[Glengoyne]

Dola,

Oh and regarding the VPI idea and the stars....I'm actually against that some. I use the "day at the office" template or whatever it is called for a reason. I don't want cute icons or even little bright stars attracting attention to my computer screen. I want it to look professional...period.

If the "Day at the office" motif can be left untouched, or if I have some way to opt out of the stars and graphics then I'm all for it.

[sterlingice]

How many husbands are Mormons allowed to have? Better yet, how many legally-sanctioned life-partners are gay Mormons allowed to have? :D
Where's that little chin-scratching, thinking smiley when you need it?

I've heard that rationale used by a few mormon women actually. Just recently I was informed by a rather attractive mormon lass that they don't actually believe in polygamy just merely polygyny.

*SIGH*

What I really wouldn't have minded is if she practiced polyandry but no, I was not so lucky....

Relax, just google it and you'll be fine. :D
Ok, you lost me back at polygon.

SI

[Galaxy]

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

Good idea...

On a serious note, good luck with the baby. Be sure to let us know what happens. I'm a long ways from that time of my life (it's good to be young when you can), and will be nervous when that happens.

[sterlingice]

Hey There's an idea, Farrah.. Tell Arlie to stand next to you in the delivery room..

and for every twinge of pain, HAUL OFF AND SLUG HIM IN THE ARM!

See how many colors you can make his arm :)
Again, one of the many in a long line of things I just don't understand. Guys don't go "well, I'm about to have a heart attack. honey, go stick a fork in the light socket since your cooking did this to me" (and to counter the fact that I had to use the "woman cooking" stereotype, I'll offer up that I do most of the cooking tho my wife is better at baking things).

SI

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

As for the favorite FOFCer bit...I think I once said I wouldn't vote for Farrah if she ran for political office, so I'm probably off the short list for that position. Probably on another list actually.

Oh and Farrah. Good luck with the whole labor and delivery thing.
It takes a heck of a lot more than that to get put on the "other list" ;). Thanks for the kind thoughts.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Dola - back to the whole multiple wives thing....If I could have a wife I think I'd try to steal Cam's. She's super nice, and a fantastic cook.

[Flasch186]

meatloaf tonight....it looked good from outside the window.

[Draft Dodger]

Dola - back to the whole multiple wives thing....If I could have a wife I think I'd try to steal Cam's. She's super nice, and a fantastic cook.

huge knockers too

[Galaxy]

huge knockers too

I thought that was Rizon's wife.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

huge knockers too
Well yes. But that's not something I really need in a wife.

[Axxon]

Well yes. But that's not something I really need in a wife.

No one does really but it certainly doesn't hurt either.

[Draft Dodger]

Well yes. But that's not something I really need in a wife.

if you don't need big tits...you don't need a wife.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

if you don't need big tits...you don't need a wife.
The whole point in me having a wife is to find someone that brings to the table things I don't have, or can't do. But I certainly wouldn't turn her away because she was blessed by the boob fairy.

[Axxon]

The whole point in me having a wife is to find someone that brings to the table things I don't have, or can't do. But I certainly wouldn't turn her away because she was blessed by the boob fairy.

She'd have to write her name in the snow when she pees?

[Galaxy]

The whole point in me having a wife is to find someone that brings to the table things I don't have, or can't do. But I certainly wouldn't turn her away because she was blessed by the boob fairy.

What if they are fake?

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

She'd have to write her name in the snow when she pees?
I can do that if it ever snowed here. :p

[Axxon]

I can do that if it ever snowed here. :p

I really thought I'd never say this but...

pix pls k thx. :D

[flere-imsaho]

Baby's due on Sunday. If there's no action before then, we're inducing on Monday.

Holy crap! That came up soon. Best of luck this weekend!

[Flasch186]

I submit that Arles and Farrah cannot post in the same thread or within 2 hours of eachother....


for the baby.

[Honolulu_Blue]

This thread just has... So. many. smilies. :) :p ;) :D :eek:

[Galaxy]

I submit that Arles and Farrah cannot post in the same thread or within 2 hours of eachother....


for the baby.


I agree...It kinda killed the appeal of this thread.

[sachmo71]

should we have a seperate "I love Farrah hypenated-last-name" forum?

[terpkristin]

Gah.
Too much for me to read here. I was looking for my post in the thread QS started because I thought it had merit and figured it was totally overlooked in the mess that was going on, but I didn't see the thread at all so, in a nutshell what I said was...

-Have a new forum for political threads.
-For items of import (such as news items such as Rehnquist's death), post the NEWS item in the general forum and include a link to the same topic in the political forum.
-After that, use the general forum thread for NEWS items related to the original NEWS item (such as information on Rehnquist's coffin lying in repose and viewing times).
-Use the political forum version of the thread for all the other stuff that goes on, with rules such as those for "The Pit" at The Straight Dope.

I know, it would probably cause poblems, but it's what I think might work...

/tk

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

should we have a seperate "I love Farrah hypenated-last-name" forum?
I think I would be the only poster in that forum. :)

[Galaxy]

I think I would be the only poster in that forum. :)

No Arlie? :)

[DanGarion]

Why don't we just prohibit or ban Politics all together? Wouldn't that solve the problem?

[WSUCougar]

But I certainly wouldn't turn her away because she was blessed by the boob fairy.
Hmmm...I wonder what you have to put under your pillow?

[Flasch186]

Why don't we just prohibit or ban Politics all together? Wouldn't that solve the problem?


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[jeff061]

Why don't we just prohibit or ban Politics all together? Wouldn't that solve the problem?


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