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Franklinnoble
09-06-2005, 07:18 PM
You guys are shit for mods if Blackadar doesn't get suspended for his personal attacks on my wife in the "Time for a Politics Forum Section?" thread.

My wife never spewed out the kind of vulgarities he spent all day putting out there, and I don't give a damn if she's new to the board or not - that's bullshit.

jeff061
09-06-2005, 07:19 PM
Give me a break.

VPI97
09-06-2005, 07:19 PM
You should PM them.

cthomer5000
09-06-2005, 07:21 PM
Should you also be suspended for your threats of physical violence?

HomerJSimpson
09-06-2005, 07:22 PM
Should you also be suspended for your threats of physical violence?


Yes.

Franklinnoble
09-06-2005, 07:22 PM
You should PM them.
No, I shouldn't. The moderation of this board has gone to hell, and they can answer this publicly.

stevew
09-06-2005, 07:22 PM
http://www.realisticdrawing.com/loyalist/art_supplies/kleenex.jpg

HomerJSimpson
09-06-2005, 07:22 PM
http://www.realisticdrawing.com/loyalist/art_supplies/kleenex.jpg


Classic.

jeff061
09-06-2005, 07:22 PM
If this isn't locked and you aren't boxed in an hour, I agree. The mods got work to do.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

VPI97
09-06-2005, 07:23 PM
I like grandstanding.
Fixed

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 07:24 PM
go for a walk, try some tibetan meditation or yoga, get a kitten, play some tcy

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:25 PM
You guys are shit for mods if Blackadar doesn't get suspended for his personal attacks on my wife in the "Time for a Politics Forum Section?" thread.

My wife never spewed out the kind of vulgarities he spent all day putting out there, and I don't give a damn if she's new to the board or not - that's bullshit.

you chose...poorly
http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/scrapbook/img/ij3_ia_91_sm.jpg

WSUCougar
09-06-2005, 07:25 PM
This is reaching a ludicrous, near-HornsManiacal level.

Hint: if it's so godawful for you and your dear wife, you don't have to come here anymore

jeff061
09-06-2005, 07:26 PM
On the positive side, there have been a few funny replies :).

you chose...poorly

Awesome.

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 07:26 PM
This is reaching a ludicrous, near-HornsManiacal level.

Hint: if it's so godawful for you and your dear wife, you don't have to come here anymore

Threadjack attempt:

I like the way Ludacris pronounces Illinois so it sounds like 'Ill a noise.'

Karlifornia
09-06-2005, 07:26 PM
To settle this, all of the disenchanted should pick a # between 1-3..whoever gets closer is a total douchebag

stevew
09-06-2005, 07:27 PM
http://pierre.aubry.free.fr/affiches/grandes/the_ladies_man.jpg

The ladies man suggests you try doing it at a different forum.

Swaggs
09-06-2005, 07:28 PM
Whatever happened to that guy that used to say funny things, write interesting dynasties, and quote the Ladies' Man all the time?

I can't remember his name, but he was a good guy.

jeff061
09-06-2005, 07:29 PM
He got married?

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:29 PM
for those keeping track, I will lose zero posts when quiksand deletes his thread.

VPI97
09-06-2005, 07:30 PM
He got married?Zing!

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:33 PM
Threadjack attempt:

I like the way Ludacris pronounces Illinois so it sounds like 'Ill a noise.'

threadjack bolsterer (and true story)

every since ludacris, I have been completely confused on the correct way to spell "ludicrous" (had to look that up), and so whenever I want to use that word, I usually end up just using something else.

Franklinnoble
09-06-2005, 07:34 PM
Whatever. My wife gets suspended for posting a few inflammatory political remarks (without getting vulgar or personal with anyone), but some ass can call her a bitch - repeatedly - and nothing happens.

It's bullshit, and you guys know it. What's worse, is I'm getting the impression that you're all a pack of spineless douchebags that wouldn't bother to do the same for your own.

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 07:35 PM
threadjack bolsterer (and true story)

every since ludacris, I have been completely confused on the correct way to spell "ludicrous" (had to look that up), and so whenever I want to use that word, I usually end up just using something else.

Same here! It's not the -ous ending that I forget, I forget if the middle vowel is supposed to be an a or e or even an i.

Karlifornia
09-06-2005, 07:36 PM
Whatever. My wife gets suspended for posting a few inflammatory political remarks (without getting vulgar or personal with anyone), but some ass can call her a bitch - repeatedly - and nothing happens.

It's bullshit, and you guys know it. What's worse, is I'm getting the impression that you're all a pack of spineless douchebags that wouldn't bother to do the same for your own.

Spineless douchebags...it's sort of, well, redundant I guess. I have never held a douchebag that had a spine

stevew
09-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Actually, my wife isnt an inflammatory troll, so i dont think the situation would ever need to arise.

WSUCougar
09-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Whatever. My wife gets suspended for posting a few inflammatory political remarks (without getting vulgar or personal with anyone), but some ass can call her a bitch - repeatedly - and nothing happens.

It's bullshit, and you guys know it. What's worse, is I'm getting the impression that you're all a pack of spineless douchebags that wouldn't bother to do the same for your own.
How about if I call YOU a bitch?

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Whatever. My wife gets suspended for posting a few inflammatory political remarks (without getting vulgar or personal with anyone), but some ass can call her a bitch - repeatedly - and nothing happens.

It's bullshit, and you guys know it. What's worse, is I'm getting the impression that you're all a pack of spineless douchebags that wouldn't bother to do the same for your own.

dude, the moderation of this board has been uneven and inconsistent for as long as I've been here, and I doubt my coming here is what caused it.

I stick around because most of the people & discussions here are cool and interesting, not because I think I've found some message board utopia. Seriously, if you don't like it, you're not going to change it; learn to deal with it, or take your fucking ball and go home.

illinifan999
09-06-2005, 07:39 PM
Why are people surprised when they get flamed in political threads?

HomerJSimpson
09-06-2005, 07:39 PM
Actually, my wife isnt an inflammatory troll, so i dont think the situation would ever need to arise.


All of this gold, and you know the thread's gone when FN has had enough.

kurtism
09-06-2005, 07:39 PM
Let me see here... We went from "bitchtroll" to "busted teeth" to "spineless douchebags." I think Hegel would be impressed at this particular dialectic.

illinifan999
09-06-2005, 07:39 PM
sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me especially over the fucking internet.

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:40 PM
Same here! It's not the -ous ending that I forget, I forget if the middle vowel is supposed to be an a or e or even an i.

exactly!

Schmidty
09-06-2005, 07:40 PM
you chose...poorly
http://www.indianajones.com/museum/exhibit/scrapbook/img/ij3_ia_91_sm.jpg

It's sad that the first thing I remembered when seeing that picture and the qoute was the Pepsi commercial that was out at the time. :(

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 07:40 PM
Let me see here... We went from "bitchtroll" to "busted teeth" to "spineless douchebags." I think Hegel would be impressed at this particular dialectic.

goddam marxist


(joke flame, please don't take seriously)

HomerJSimpson
09-06-2005, 07:41 PM
dude, the moderation of this board has been uneven and inconsistent for as long as I've been here, and I doubt my coming here is what caused it.

I stick around because most of the people & discussions here are cool and interesting, not because I think I've found some message board utopia. Seriously, if you don't like it, you're not going to change it; learn to deal with it, or take your fucking ball and go home.


Actually, it was all you. Skydog told me it is all your fault.

Swaggs
09-06-2005, 07:41 PM
Is this online meltdown the equivalent of like Bobby Knight throwing the chair or Lou Pinella throwing the base?

Karlifornia
09-06-2005, 07:41 PM
Franklin. Blackadar. 3 pm tomorrow: hxxp://www.traintracks.com

(I don't know what the website is, so if it's porno, I'm sorry)

jeff061
09-06-2005, 07:41 PM
Somehow I was able to last longer than a week on this board without getting banned. If someone comes in and starts talking trash before they hit double digits I'm not shedding a tear for them.

kurtism
09-06-2005, 07:41 PM
goddam marxist


(joke flame, please don't take seriously)

Hey, don't blame Hegel for Marx. And don't blame Marx for Katherine Heigl.

dawgfan
09-06-2005, 07:42 PM
It's sad that the first thing I remembered when seeing that picture and the qoute was the Pepsi commercial that was out at the time. :(

Ouch - I'd forgotten about that...

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 07:43 PM
Hey, don't blame Hegel for Marx. And don't blame Marx for Katherine Heigl.

I don't blame Hegel for Marx, but I DO blame Schopenhauer for Nietschze.

Schmidty
09-06-2005, 07:45 PM
Ouch - I'd forgotten about that...

Yeah, painful. I think it was like the guy chose a Coke and the knight said "You have chosen poorly" and then Indy picked a Pepsi and the knight said "You have chosen.....wisely." So bad. Why do I remember shitty commercials so well?

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:45 PM
Is this online meltdown the equivalent of like Bobby Knight throwing the chair or Lou Pinella throwing the base?

I was really thinking more along the lines of Bobby Valentine and the dugout disguise.
:cool:

kurtism
09-06-2005, 07:45 PM
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, [some versions have 'Schopenhauer and Hegel']

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.


*tips his hat to the Pythons*

Schmidty
09-06-2005, 07:46 PM
I don't blame Hegel for Marx, but I DO blame Schopenhauer for Nietschze.

I blame Braunschweiger for Halitosis.

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 07:48 PM
I like threads like this because I can pretty much post any nonsense I want, secure in the knowledge that eventually it will all be deleted.

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 07:48 PM
How about if I call YOU a bitch?
:eek:

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 07:48 PM
I blame FOFCers for not using Ignore.

DaddyTorgo
09-06-2005, 07:48 PM
seriously. this whole thing has reached ridiculous porportions and i weighed whether i really wanted to contribute to it by responding in this thread, not that my response means anything. But I gotta say FN, other guys get called a lot worse than bitchtroll on here all the time, in threads that aren't even political. Look, you just called people spineless douchebags in this very thread. And I've seen worse directed towards various people here time and time again.

I don't know if this is your wife feeling this way and asking you to intercede or something, but I think this is how I feel:

1) if this is just YOU feeling this way, that we're name-calling and picking on her and what-not, then maybe you should have thought about that BEFORE you encouraged her to signup and start posting here. she's not immune to the name-calling and the vitriol that goes on here just because she's your wife, if you can't handle reading it and grow some thick skin and stop thinking everything is a personal attack then maybe one of you two should leave the board? It's your problem not everyone else's.

2) if she is pushing you to defend her on the board then maybe you ought to explain to her that this is the way of the board, and of the internet in general, and she has to grow some thicker skin.

All that being said, I do wish people could be more civil and less mean on the board. But that's part of the internet, take it or leave it i guess.

I'm sure you'll have some hate-filled response to this, no-doubt involving name-calling and threatening violence. It's just a shame that seemingly lately everything you've posted has seemed so inflamed and irrational. I used to read your posts and value your opinions, but lately it's all degenerated. I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself why, and is this the image you want everyone in the community to have of you?

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 07:49 PM
27 members and 6 guests

Separate forum, my ass. This is what we want from FOFC.

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 07:50 PM
seriously. this whole thing has reached ridiculous porportions and i weighed whether i really wanted to contribute to it by responding in this thread, not that my response means anything. But I gotta say FN, other guys get called a lot worse than bitchtroll on here all the time, in threads that aren't even political. Look, you just called people spineless douchebags in this very thread. And I've seen worse directed towards various people here time and time again.

I don't know if this is your wife feeling this way and asking you to intercede or something, but I think this is how I feel:

1) if this is just YOU feeling this way, that we're name-calling and picking on her and what-not, then maybe you should have thought about that BEFORE you encouraged her to signup and start posting here. she's not immune to the name-calling and the vitriol that goes on here just because she's your wife, if you can't handle reading it and grow some thick skin and stop thinking everything is a personal attack then maybe one of you two should leave the board? It's your problem not everyone else's.

2) if she is pushing you to defend her on the board then maybe you ought to explain to her that this is the way of the board, and of the internet in general, and she has to grow some thicker skin.

All that being said, I do wish people could be more civil and less mean on the board. But that's part of the internet, take it or leave it i guess.

I'm sure you'll have some hate-filled response to this, no-doubt involving name-calling and threatening violence. It's just a shame that seemingly lately everything you've posted has seemed so inflamed and irrational. I used to read your posts and value your opinions, but lately it's all degenerated. I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself why, and is this the image you want everyone in the community to have of you?
You had me up until "seriously".

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 07:50 PM
27 members and 6 guests

Separate forum, my ass. This is what we want from FOFC.

the old man has a point

Easy Mac
09-06-2005, 07:50 PM
This thread sucks.

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 07:51 PM
This thread sucks.
I give it a 5 - on a trial basis.

Franklinnoble
09-06-2005, 07:51 PM
So, just so I have this straight...

What Blackadar did was fine.

What my wife did was not.

You guys need to re-examine your priorities. Maybe it took my wife getting subjected to this to realize this, but this is ridiculous.

sabotai
09-06-2005, 07:52 PM
It's sad that the first thing I remembered when seeing that picture and the qoute was the Pepsi commercial that was out at the time. :(
*sigh of releif* I must have missed that one.

jeff061
09-06-2005, 07:53 PM
You guys need to re-examine your priorities

Says the man flipping out on an internet message board?

WSUCougar
09-06-2005, 07:53 PM
She's not "your wife" she's Capsicum, and Capsicum earned whatever shit she reaps.

Poli
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
30 members, 8 guests.

I'm staying out of this, fn, as I don't really know what either of them did (though I've read about it). Maybe they're both in the wrong.

Remember tomorrow.

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
This is like pre-school:

"Teacher, he took my milk."
"Teacher, she took my toy."

"I HATE YOU!"

digamma
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
How about a separate forum for spouses?

;)

HomerJSimpson
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
Says the man flipping out on an internet message board?


Says the man trying to evanglize the messageboard, while calling the board names and threatening violence.

Franklinnoble
09-06-2005, 07:55 PM
She's not "your wife" she's Capsicum, and Capsicum earned whatever shit she reaps.
So should Blackadar. Hell, suspend me as well for getting personal or threating to knock his teeth out... but be consistent. Don't ban a newb for being political while shielding an old-timer for being a vulgar, name-calling jerk.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn
09-06-2005, 07:56 PM
How about a separate forum for spouses?

;)
Well now what have I done? http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 07:56 PM
It must be the magic word "ping" and the angry smiley. Works every time.

Rizon
09-06-2005, 07:56 PM
Hey, I heard I got a warning on the OOTP Boards ... for posts I made a year after I was gone.

So in the world of internet message boards, this all makes sense.

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 07:57 PM
Well now what have I done? http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
You didn't have fun sucking?

DaddyTorgo
09-06-2005, 07:57 PM
She's not "your wife" she's Capsicum, and Capsicum earned whatever shit she reaps.
i think this is what i was trying to get at. you have to seperate capsicum from your wife FN. they're not the same people to us. i don't think any of us would say the stuff we said to YOUR WIFE, but capsicum is just a poster on a message board, who has managed to inflame a lot of passion. seperate the two, please, for your own sanity, to bring back the old "sane" FN?

digamma
09-06-2005, 07:58 PM
Well now what have I done? http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
I was gender neutral--you can send Arlie.

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 07:59 PM
You didn't have fun sucking?


mmmm....sucking...

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn
09-06-2005, 07:59 PM
I was gender neutral--you can send Arlie.
Never thought of that! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Franklinnoble
09-06-2005, 08:00 PM
i think this is what i was trying to get at. you have to seperate capsicum from your wife FN. they're not the same people to us. i don't think any of us would say the stuff we said to YOUR WIFE, but capsicum is just a poster on a message board, who has managed to inflame a lot of passion. seperate the two, please, for your own sanity, to bring back the old "sane" FN?
The name calling wouldn't even bother me if it was dealt with in a fair manner. If capsicum is going to get suspended for posting something provocative, then let's be consistent across the board. None of this "well, you haven't been here long enough to talk like that" crap.

sabotai
09-06-2005, 08:00 PM
FN, a few things. First off, Blackie didn't say anything to or about your wife that hasn't been said to and about plenty of people on this board. Blackie didn't cross any line that hasn't been crossed before. Now, if you want to argue that it's about time a line should be drawn, fine. But I'm pretty sure I've seen you throw around names at members around here.

You need to realize that it doesn't matter who she is. Once she posts on this board, she is a regular member and the risks that go with that involve being called names.

Lastly, if what Blackie says really makes you this upset, we do have an ignore feature.

CamEdwards
09-06-2005, 08:02 PM
She's not "your wife" she's Capsicum, and Capsicum earned whatever shit she reaps.

Ding Ding Ding.

You don't get special bonus points or any additional slack for being someone's wife on here.

The vast consensus of the board is that capsicum is a troll. Yes, she has a few defenders, but the majority of the board feels she is a troll. That's why almost no one is standing up for her, not because of some vendetta against you, or her, or conservatives in general.

dawgfan
09-06-2005, 08:05 PM
Ding Ding Ding.

You don't get special bonus points or any additional slack for being someone's wife on here.

The vast consensus of the board is that capsicum is a troll. Yes, she has a few defenders, but the majority of the board feels she is a troll. That's why almost no one is standing up for her, not because of some vendetta against you, or her, or conservatives in general.

Seconded.

You ever think for a second Franklin that the reason you're seeing so little support for your point of view is that you're the one most blinded by bias on this issue?

jeff061
09-06-2005, 08:05 PM
I think its more believeable that we are all spineless douchebags. Yep.

KWhit
09-06-2005, 08:06 PM
You ever think for a second Franklin that the reason you're seeing so little support for your point of view is that you're the one most blinded by bias on this issue?
Yep.

dawgfan
09-06-2005, 08:07 PM
I think its more believeable that we are all spineless douchebags. Yep.

Oh, well yeah - I thought that was a given...

;)

sabotai
09-06-2005, 08:07 PM
The name calling wouldn't even bother me if it was dealt with in a fair manner. If capsicum is going to get suspended for posting something provocative, then let's be consistent across the board. None of this "well, you haven't been here long enough to talk like that" crap.
Maybe that last line worked for her first suspension (which was removed). But not now. No, she wasn't suspended because she posted something before she had been around long enough to do so. She was suspended for being a troll. That's it. If any one of us posted in the manner that she did, we'd be gone for 2 weeks, no exceptions. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've seen long time members suspended for less. So you can drop this nonsense of her being suspended because she's new.

Swaggs
09-06-2005, 08:19 PM
I would also add that it is not elitism that gets some of the more long-standing posters a little bit more slack (at least from me). It is that they may make inflammatory posts like 5%-10% of the time over a large body of posts. When someone new comes in, makes 100 posts with 50% of them being inflammatory, they should have a shorter leash.

Buzzbee
09-06-2005, 08:19 PM
Couple of things:

1) FN - Ummm...you refer to Capsicum getting suspended. While that is true, the suspension was rescinded. Therefore to base your argument on the fact that Capsicum got suspended seems to be a house of cards. Rather than play this out as FN vs. Mods, it would have seemed much more likely to get results if you had simply reported Blackie's posts.

2) Also FN, it seems pretty evident that you have a serious problem with the modding. My question to you is, and I mean this with tremendous sincerity: Are you going to be able to get over it? If so, then I suggest realizing that fact and start walking the path to forgiveness. If you are not, then you need to either work to change the system or walk away from the system. A word of caution though - if you choose to try and change the system (meaning add or replace mods) I suggest great care in how you go about it. People are naturally resistant to change, and I'd also hate to see this board divided because a few people have axes to grind. If you decide that you can't get over it and can't get around it, then ya gotta go through the door.

Just my thoughts. Take 'em for what they're worth.

TazFTW
09-06-2005, 08:20 PM
Yeah, painful. I think it was like the guy chose a Coke and the knight said "You have chosen poorly" and then Indy picked a Pepsi and the knight said "You have chosen.....wisely." So bad. Why do I remember shitty commercials so well?

And people bitched about Yoda using the Jedi Mind Trick for Pepsi. That was classic compared to the knight one.

sabotai
09-06-2005, 08:22 PM
1) FN - Ummm...you refer to Capsicum getting suspended. While that is true, the suspension was rescinded. Therefore to base your argument on the fact that Capsicum got suspended seems to be a house of cards. She got thrown back into the box recently.

HomerJSimpson
09-06-2005, 08:23 PM
Couple of things:

1) FN - Ummm...you refer to Capsicum getting suspended. While that is true, the suspension was rescinded. Therefore to base your argument on the fact that Capsicum got suspended seems to be a house of cards. Rather than play this out as FN vs. Mods, it would have seemed much more likely to get results if you had simply reported Blackie's posts.

2) Also FN, it seems pretty evident that you have a serious problem with the modding. My question to you is, and I mean this with tremendous sincerity: Are you going to be able to get over it? If so, then I suggest realizing that fact and start walking the path to forgiveness. If you are not, then you need to either work to change the system or walk away from the system. A word of caution though - if you choose to try and change the system (meaning add or replace mods) I suggest great care in how you go about it. People are naturally resistant to change, and I'd also hate to see this board divided because a few people have axes to grind. If you decide that you can't get over it and can't get around it, then ya gotta go through the door.

Just my thoughts. Take 'em for what they're worth.

She was suspended again today, btw. I don't think you knew that.

Buzzbee
09-06-2005, 08:24 PM
She got thrown back into the bax recently.
Obviously I missed that. FN, please ignore my point #1, as I obviously know nothing of which I speak. Make your own call on my point #2.

SirFozzie
09-06-2005, 08:49 PM
Franklinnoble hates it when we deny him free speech to call us all spineless douchebags and yadda yadda, but it's hate speech to call him such things in return.

Double standard, they name is FranklinNoble.

st.cronin
09-06-2005, 08:52 PM
All this could have been avoided if only Jim had put out TCY 2 by now.

Schmidty
09-06-2005, 08:53 PM
Franklinnoble hates it when we deny him free speech to call us all spineless douchebags and yadda yadda, but it's hate speech to call him such things in return.

Double standard, they name is FranklinNoble.

I think we all know this, but everyone continuing to take shots at each other is going to do nothing more than keep things going.

Let the mods do their thing. Everyone else just chill and talk about other things, such as sports, movies, and making this board a better place.

Qwikshot
09-06-2005, 08:57 PM
ALL IS WELL!

McSweeny
09-06-2005, 08:58 PM
when all this is sorted out we're going to need a play-by-play to see who gets boxed, banned, promoted, rewarded, etc etc

Vince
09-06-2005, 09:00 PM
when all this is sorted out we're going to need a play-by-play to see who gets boxed, banned, promoted, rewarded, etc etc
The situation will scream for a flere diagram.

Samdari
09-06-2005, 09:01 PM
I think its more believeable that we are all spineless douchebags. Yep.

What because we wouldn't defend our wives from (harmless) harsh words with (just as harmless) harsher words?

Yup, we're just not men.

Or perhaps the manly thing to do in the first place would have been NOT TO TELL YOUR WIFE ABOUT THE BOARD SO YOU COULD COME HERE AND BITCH ABOUT HER BEHIND HER BACK.

KWhit
09-06-2005, 09:03 PM
What because we wouldn't defend our wives from (harmless) harsh words with (just as harmless) harsher words?

Yup, we're just not men.

Or perhaps the manly thing to do in the first place would have been NOT TO TELL YOUR WIFE ABOUT THE BOARD SO YOU COULD COME HERE AND BITCH ABOUT HER BEHIND HER BACK.
I think his post was sarcasm.

Qwikshot
09-06-2005, 09:05 PM
I really wanna post the picture of Kevin Bacon from Animal House in this discussion, right before the crowd takes him away...it screams it here and a few other areas on the board right now.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn
09-06-2005, 09:06 PM
Or perhaps the manly thing to do in the first place would have been NOT TO TELL YOUR WIFE ABOUT THE BOARD SO YOU COULD COME HERE AND BITCH ABOUT HER BEHIND HER BACK.
Does that really work?

RendeR
09-06-2005, 09:06 PM
Diagram seems simple:

Franklin brings wife to board as Caspicum

Capsicum begins internet message board life as a trolling trouble maker

Capsicum is set upon by other members tired of trolls starting shit

Franklin living with said troll gets backlash from his wife

Franklin goes into a tizzy because his life is now hell thanks to his/her decision to join the board



Did I miss anything?

Qwikshot
09-06-2005, 09:11 PM
Diagram seems simple:

Franklin brings wife to board as Caspicum

Capsicum begins internet message board life as a trolling trouble maker

Capsicum is set upon by other members tired of trolls starting shit

Franklin living with said troll gets backlash from his wife

Franklin goes into a tizzy because his life is now hell thanks to his/her decision to join the board



Did I miss anything?

Priceless.

Mastercard.

Samdari
09-06-2005, 09:18 PM
I think his post was sarcasm.

LOL, I knew that, but FN took a shot at all of our manhood's for some people questioning him in the first place. It was him I was really responding to. Call it a misquote.

KWhit
09-06-2005, 09:20 PM
Gotcha.

Anthony
09-06-2005, 09:28 PM
i don't find any of this entertaining. this entire scenario is like a broken record. i'll reserve comments on who i think is wrong/right. but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is. quite redundant, actually.

i will say, knowing someone is a wife of a FOFC regular or not - if you know someone is a woman and you call that person a bitch or some other foul word, it just goes to show how little character and class you have to knowingly speak to a woman that way. hey, i'm no saint, but i don't walk around the FOFC clubhouse with my cock out and not think there's ladies in my presence. i know of about 5 or 6 female regulars here, most of them are someone's wife. if there ever was a time they were to anger me i wouldn't say anything bad to them not cuz they're someone's spouse but cuz they're ladies.

have some respect Blacky.

i say these things not with my tongue in my cheeck, but out of concern. i think we go down a very dark path once we make women fair game here. sure, you know what you're walking into if you get into a political debate, but let's all try to act like gentlemen (emphasis on the word *try*). you might say i post some rather vulgar things, but i don't ever direct it to a particular female poster and i would think by now people know what to expect from me so if they considered me offensive they could ignore me. but, no, i don't verbally attack women.

KWhit
09-06-2005, 09:30 PM
This from a guy who talks about sticking his dick in a sandwich?

Axxon
09-06-2005, 09:31 PM
This from a guy who talks about sticking his dick in a sandwich?

Yes, but was it a FEMALE sandwich?

KWhit
09-06-2005, 09:32 PM
Yes, but was it a FEMALE sandwich?
Shouldn't matter, homophobe.

Schmidty
09-06-2005, 09:32 PM
Yes, but was it a FEMALE sandwich?

Yes, but I doubt it was consentual.

Unless it was a panini. Those things are sluts.

Buccaneer
09-06-2005, 09:33 PM
This from a guy who talks about sticking his dick in a sandwich?
And brags about extra-marital sexual escapades. Credibility. None.

Axxon
09-06-2005, 09:38 PM
i don't find any of this entertaining. this entire scenario is like a broken record. i'll reserve comments on who i think is wrong/right. but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is. quite redundant, actually.

i will say, knowing someone is a wife of a FOFC regular or not - if you know someone is a woman and you call that person a bitch or some other foul word, it just goes to show how little character and class you have to knowingly speak to a woman that way. hey, i'm no saint, but i don't walk around the FOFC clubhouse with my cock out and not think there's ladies in my presence. i know of about 5 or 6 female regulars here, most of them are someone's wife. if there ever was a time they were to anger me i wouldn't say anything bad to them not cuz they're someone's spouse but cuz they're ladies.

have some respect Blacky.

i say these things not with my tongue in my cheeck, but out of concern. i think we go down a very dark path once we make women fair game here. sure, you know what you're walking into if you get into a political debate, but let's all try to act like gentlemen (emphasis on the word *try*). you might say i post some rather vulgar things, but i don't ever direct it to a particular female poster and i would think by now people know what to expect from me so if they considered me offensive they could ignore me. but, no, i don't verbally attack women.

Hey, I'm from the south and I agree with this but there's rules to that behavior and they aren't simply for the men. There's a line there and it generally isn't crossed.

On an internet board the line is so blurred it may not even exist and when I see a poster name I don't usually wonder or even give a damn what sex they are. It's like in football, when the women reporters go into the locker room they lose the privelege of being offended by what they see or hear. Same with a message board I'd say.

But...

using the gender specific word bitch shows a knowledge that the poster is a woman and a conscious effort to use that to demean her and that's not cool to do.

Of course, it's not cool to be a racist and do that to an entire race of people either so I don't think this is going anywhere. I wouldn't have used the term and think it's uncool but comparatively speaking I don't think it was the worse of the two idiotic statements. Probably equal though.

Axxon
09-06-2005, 09:41 PM
Shouldn't matter, homophobe.

Bologna, I'm a hamophobe. I mayonaise as well admit it. I mustard get this off my chest. I always knew it would ketchup to me one day.

I shall dill with this pickle I have bread for myself.

Lettuce just hope that it will be enough and won't come off too cheesy.

That is all, hey wait, would you look at that tomato!!

Anthony
09-06-2005, 09:42 PM
And brags about extra-marital sexual escapades. Credibility. None.

what are these sexual escapades you speak of? i jack off to internet porn. in what state is that "extra marital"? let me know so i don't visit it. what i do with my right hand, a mouse and broadband internet access has nothing to do with how i treat ladies. i'll stop here cuz it's apparent you've misunderstood much about me. :cool:

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn
09-06-2005, 09:45 PM
what are these sexual escapades you speak of? i jack off to internet porn. in what state is that "extra marital"? let me know so i don't visit it. what i do with my right hand, a mouse and broadband internet access has nothing to do with how i treat ladies. i'll stop here cuz it's apparent you've misunderstood much about me. :cool:
So you have a left handed mouse? I didn't realize they made those.

Anthony
09-06-2005, 09:46 PM
So you have a left handed mouse? I didn't realize they made those.

no, it's a right handed mouse.

it's just that in times of need, i've been known to be quite the resourceful little fucker. :)

Buzzbee
09-06-2005, 09:47 PM
what are these sexual escapades you speak of? i jack off to internet porn. in what state is that "extra marital"? let me know so i don't visit it. what i do with my right hand, a mouse and broadband internet access has nothing to do with how i treat ladies. i'll stop here cuz it's apparent you've misunderstood much about me. :cool:http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=42209


Perhaps he should say 'Wishcapades.'

Anthony
09-06-2005, 09:48 PM
today is my 3 year anniversary, by the way. i remembered. just thought i'd pass it along and share w/ the crowd before people start to think i don't appreciate my wife, what with all my extra marital escapades who has time to remember trivial things like anniversaries.

Honolulu_Blue
09-06-2005, 09:49 PM
what are these sexual escapades you speak of? i jack off to internet porn. in what state is that "extra marital"? let me know so i don't visit it. what i do with my right hand, a mouse and broadband internet access has nothing to do with how i treat ladies. i'll stop here cuz it's apparent you've misunderstood much about me. :cool:
Didn't some girl give you a handjob at some club or something?

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn
09-06-2005, 09:50 PM
today is my 3 year anniversary, by the way. i remembered. just thought i'd pass it along and share w/ the crowd before people start to think i don't appreciate my wife, what with all my extra marital escapades who has time to remember trivial things like anniversaries.
Well then congratulations HA. But why are you hanging out here with us then?

Chubby
09-06-2005, 09:54 PM
man I miss all the good stuff when I'm at work...


so I'm just curious, is Blackadar going to just call em like he sees em?

Anthony
09-06-2005, 10:06 PM
Well then congratulations HA. But why are you hanging out here with us then?

we got an early start to our evening. Mrs. HA goes to bed early. just finished tucking her in, matter of fact.

besides, i overwhelm her w/ love daily, year round. i'm one of those guys who don't need an anniversary/St. Valentine's Day to do something special for my wife. she's the most important thing in my life and i try to let her know/feel that constantly.

ok, enough of this Hallmark nonsense. i want to go back to being HA the womanizing sexual escapader for the rest of the nite.

Draft Dodger
09-06-2005, 10:12 PM
we got an early start to our evening. Mrs. HA goes to bed early. just finished tucking her in, matter of fact.

besides, i overwhelm her w/ love daily, year round. i'm one of those guys who don't need an anniversary/St. Valentine's Day to do something special for my wife. she's the most important thing in my life and i try to let her know/feel that constantly.

ok, enough of this Hallmark nonsense. i want to go back to being HA the womanizing sexual escapader for the rest of the nite.

I still want to be on the record as saying I miss HM...but HA does a pretty darn good job of looking foolish too.

Samdari
09-06-2005, 10:16 PM
i'm one of those guys who don't need an anniversary/St. Valentine's Day to do something special for my wife.

Cheap bastard.

Anthony
09-06-2005, 10:23 PM
Cheap bastard.

nah. overly generous to a fault, that's more like it.

WSUCougar
09-06-2005, 10:38 PM
"Hey, Honey...how about Subway for dinner?"

JeeberD
09-06-2005, 10:41 PM
FOFC...we know drama.

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 10:51 PM
FOFC...we know drama.

FOFC....Internet for Idoits.

JeeberD
09-06-2005, 10:53 PM
FOFC....Internet for Idoits.


:D

Wonderful UIC...

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 10:53 PM
Look at his screen name under HA's profile, lol.

I'm not a married person nor have a girlfriend, but is that what a wife does, take care of those "needs" so you don't have to use your hands?

Anthony
09-06-2005, 10:55 PM
Look at his screen name under HA's profile, lol.

I'm not a married person nor have a girlfriend, but is that what a wife does, take care of those "needs" so you don't have to use your hands?

she's a human being, not a fuckdoll.

TargetPractice6
09-06-2005, 10:59 PM
Sweet, do you want to join the Columbia Records Club?

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 11:08 PM
she's a human being, not a fuckdoll.

Never said she was...

VPI97
09-06-2005, 11:16 PM
she's a human being, not a fuckdoll.
Never said she was...
I could have sworn she was a fuckdoll when I <strike>paid $50 for</strike> met her.

Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

Anthony
09-06-2005, 11:22 PM
I could have sworn she was a fuckdoll when I <strike>paid $50 for</strike> met her.



#14 on "List of Things You Can Say To Someone Who Lives Thousands Of Miles Away From You". ;)

VPI97
09-06-2005, 11:25 PM
#14 on "List of Things You Can Say To Someone Who Lives Thousands Of Miles Away From You". ;)
Nah, more like #4 on "List of Things You Can Say To Someone With a Sense of Humor". It's right behind momma jokes.

Anthony
09-06-2005, 11:29 PM
Nah, more like #4 on "List of Things You Can Say To Someone With a Sense of Humor". It's right behind momma jokes.

i like this version of VPI. like a clean cut guy, but with one side of his shirt untucked. stick with it.

Flasch186
09-06-2005, 11:35 PM
everybody keeps whining cuz they cant police themselves. there is an ignore list. If you dont want to get into politics stay out of threads labeled so. be polite to eachother. Remember you can avoid threads that piss you off but for the most part I like everyone here and the pseudo debates we have, political or not.

Sometimes youre too sensitive but youll get over it, and if you thought he just said that Im being too sensitive then it probably is you im talking to.

enjoy yourselves, at least you have internet access and probably ate today.

sabotai
09-06-2005, 11:45 PM
This thread needs more cowbell.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn
09-06-2005, 11:46 PM
This thread needs more cowbell.
I don't think I've seen trout mentioned either.

Galaxy
09-06-2005, 11:47 PM
This thread needs more cowbell.


You got a fever for more cowbell?

The only presciption is more COWBELL!

ThunderingHERD
09-06-2005, 11:48 PM
i don't find any of this entertaining. this entire scenario is like a broken record. i'll reserve comments on who i think is wrong/right. but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is. quite redundant, actually.

i will say, knowing someone is a wife of a FOFC regular or not - if you know someone is a woman and you call that person a bitch or some other foul word, it just goes to show how little character and class you have to knowingly speak to a woman that way. hey, i'm no saint, but i don't walk around the FOFC clubhouse with my cock out and not think there's ladies in my presence. i know of about 5 or 6 female regulars here, most of them are someone's wife. if there ever was a time they were to anger me i wouldn't say anything bad to them not cuz they're someone's spouse but cuz they're ladies.

have some respect Blacky.

i say these things not with my tongue in my cheeck, but out of concern. i think we go down a very dark path once we make women fair game here. sure, you know what you're walking into if you get into a political debate, but let's all try to act like gentlemen (emphasis on the word *try*). you might say i post some rather vulgar things, but i don't ever direct it to a particular female poster and i would think by now people know what to expect from me so if they considered me offensive they could ignore me. but, no, i don't verbally attack women.


I don't know anything about the incidents in question, but what a load of bullshit. The whole notion of treating someone "like a lady" stems from the notion that women are meak, sensitive, and unable to defend themselves. If that is the case with a woman or a man, I don't think to many here have a problem treating that person with sensitivity. I can think of an example that happened recently that most remember.

But if someone is being an asshole they're fair game to be called out for it, regardless--she lost her "lady" card. :rolleyes:

sabotai
09-06-2005, 11:58 PM
You got a fever for more cowbell?

The only presciption is more COWBELL!
before we're done here.. y'all be wearing gold-plated diapers.

illinifan999
09-06-2005, 11:58 PM
did someone say

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/shawnm67/cowbell.gif

Blackadar
09-07-2005, 12:17 AM
Yup.

We can tell people to "f** off" or "f*** you".
We can call people "a**holes", "idiots" or "morons".
We can talk about screwing a sandwich.
We can threaten physical violence, repeatedly.
We can belittle and demean.

Ooh, but call someone a "bitchtroll" (if you want to blame me for something, at least get the term right) and Franklin gets all bent out of shape.

You want to fix this board? Leave.

I don't owe Capsicum any deference just because she's your wife. She's just another member - and a piss poor one at that. I'm glad she's gone and if you choose to follow, that's your business. The problem is that you seem to think that I should defer to her because she's your wife. Guess what? I don't - and that's your problem to deal with, not mine.

DaddyTorgo
09-07-2005, 12:20 AM
Yup.

We can tell people to "f** off" or "f*** you".
We can call people "a**holes", "idiots" or "morons".
We can talk about screwing a sandwich.
We can threaten physical violence, repeatedly.
We can belittle and demean.

Ooh, but call someone a "bitchtroll" (if you want to blame me for something, at least get the term right) and Franklin gets all bent out of shape.

You want to fix this board? Leave.

I don't owe Capsicum any deference just because she's your wife. She's just another member - and a piss poor one at that. I'm glad she's gone and if you choose to follow, that's your business. The problem is that you seem to think that I should defer to her because she's your wife. Guess what? I don't - and that's your problem to deal with, not mine.
i gotta say, i don't agree with you often blackadar but this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject.

Axxon
09-07-2005, 12:20 AM
Yup.

We can tell people to "f** off" ...

I must be low in cursing skills but I can't think of a 3 letter curse verb beginning with f. :(

TargetPractice6
09-07-2005, 12:38 AM
Fug?

Glengoyne
09-07-2005, 12:40 AM
Well I think Blackie certainly went over the line by getting personal. Really it doesn't matter what the specific insult was...you've said it over and over now, and it has crossed over from being something that was minor to a pretty substantial insult directed right at an individual.

Certainly Capsicum doesn't deserve to get any leeway(sp?) for being FN's wife, she deserves to get the same treatment anyone else who posts similar tripe gets. You however have taken it beyond the pale, and have essentially been personally attacking her ...repeatedly. It is too much.


Regarding Capsicum. Certainly in my time here I haven't seen anyone stir up as much trouble in a short time as she has. When she was first banned/suspended/unbanned she had on the order of a dozen posts. Many of them spewing hate. Having strong opinions, even unpopular opinions, is one thing. Posting in the hate filled manner is another. Cap's posts are often dark, so dark their content makes me uncomfortable. I've never ignored anyone, never even considered it, but she has brought me to the point where I might ignore her if she returns. Jon indicated that she brought up a valid point with the post quoting the article with some pretty blatantly racist comments in it. Well I agree that that point of view certainly exists, and probably not in as small a percentage as I would predict. It is the way Cap makes her point that has people up in arms. Tact isn't her strong suit. She is blunt to the point that she is trollish, and I think she deserves to be treated like a troll.

So be it.

Ryan S
09-07-2005, 04:31 AM
Cap got less leeway because I got the impression she joined the forum to argue about politics. I don't think she has proved me wrong. The fact that she is married to another forum member does not come into it.

There are others who are now skating on thin ice (and they know who they are). I am giving them one last chance.

Izulde
09-07-2005, 05:03 AM
Let's see.

HA proves once again he's a fucking hypocritical idiot.

FN needs to realize that the differences between men and women don't matter jack shit on the Internet, especially on a message forum.

And overall, I find this thread quite amusing.

Did I miss anything? :D

Samdari
09-07-2005, 05:32 AM
I'm not a married person .......... but is that what a wife does, take care of those "needs" so you don't have to use your hands?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No, that's what a girlfriend does, so she can become a wife. Then she justs eats chocolate and complains that you don't do enough around the house.

Blade6119
09-07-2005, 05:51 AM
i don't find any of this entertaining. this entire scenario is like a broken record. i'll reserve comments on who i think is wrong/right. but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is. quite redundant, actually.

i will say, knowing someone is a wife of a FOFC regular or not - if you know someone is a woman and you call that person a bitch or some other foul word, it just goes to show how little character and class you have to knowingly speak to a woman that way. hey, i'm no saint, but i don't walk around the FOFC clubhouse with my cock out and not think there's ladies in my presence. i know of about 5 or 6 female regulars here, most of them are someone's wife. if there ever was a time they were to anger me i wouldn't say anything bad to them not cuz they're someone's spouse but cuz they're ladies.

have some respect Blacky.

i say these things not with my tongue in my cheeck, but out of concern. i think we go down a very dark path once we make women fair game here. sure, you know what you're walking into if you get into a political debate, but let's all try to act like gentlemen (emphasis on the word *try*). you might say i post some rather vulgar things, but i don't ever direct it to a particular female poster and i would think by now people know what to expect from me so if they considered me offensive they could ignore me. but, no, i don't verbally attack women.

I agree full heartedly with this...ladies, while under similar punishment guidelines, deserve to be treated with respect. What is said and in what mannor should be watched, as is it a reflection of your character and self-dignity...I dont believe i ever post vulgar posts, and certainly never at or around ladies, so you cant discredit me that i know of. Ive been at fofc for 5 years now and the board has slowly but surely lowered its standards of class and i think cursing at and slandering women is where we gentlemen should draw a line.

I don't find the trout or cowbell jokes funny personally, but their not disrespectful so i dont mind them. Not respecting women is something i dont tolerate, message board or not. I dont think its that hard for us to act with class, regardless of our ages since i know we have a wide range...from youngins like shorty, illini and i(im 18, and i think they are too..not sure) up to sky and quik...i think everyone can agree to have certain standards

I never read the politics thread(never read em, only drama), and im not about to take sides...i have known black and frank for some time as fellow posters and dont assume to know who is right...but i do believe we should have the self-respect and character to treat women with respect...one fellow poster mentioned doing that would imply they are weak and meaningless, and he couldn't be further off...its just a sign of respect, one i personally feel we can collectively practice.

Oh, and everyone stop having drama...its getting annoying how much it happens...seems like every week i sign on to find another 2 long-time posters going at it.

flere-imsaho
09-07-2005, 06:37 AM
So you have a left handed mouse? I didn't realize they made those.

Completely OT, but yes, they make those. Some models of mice are asymmetric and curve to fit in one's hand. These sometimes also have a left-hand model which curves the other way to fit in a left hand.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 06:44 AM
Completely OT, but yes, they make those. Some models of mice are asymmetric and curve to fit in one's hand. These sometimes also have a left-hand model which curves the other way to fit in a left hand.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled flamefest.

jeff061
09-07-2005, 06:46 AM
but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is

I disagree. 5 Stars.

Subby
09-07-2005, 06:52 AM
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled flamefest. Shutup bitchtroll™.

gottimd
09-07-2005, 06:56 AM
Did somebody say Stars?

http://www.mercadolibre.com.ve/org-img/preview/MLV/042005/3476082_9995.jpg

Joe
09-07-2005, 07:02 AM
I agree full heartedly with this...ladies, while under similar punishment guidelines, deserve to be treated with respect. What is said and in what mannor should be watched, as is it a reflection of your character and self-dignity...I dont believe i ever post vulgar posts, and certainly never at or around ladies, so you cant discredit me that i know of. Ive been at fofc for 5 years now and the board has slowly but surely lowered its standards of class and i think cursing at and slandering women is where we gentlemen should draw a line.


But how do we know who really is a female? Just because they say they are? its the fucking internet, and the net doesn't differentiate. Would I get a pass because I might claim to be a female? For all we know, capsicum could just be an account FN created so he could troll (not that I'm saying it is). Nobody really knows each other (except in a few cases), so it should be treated as such.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 07:03 AM
Shutup bitchtroll™.
Did you just call me a bitchtroll™?!?

Bee
09-07-2005, 07:04 AM
If I create a new account as BitchTroll, do I have to pay Blackie a fee?

jeff061
09-07-2005, 07:05 AM
You need to pay SkyDog a bribe or he'll Suicane you to depths of the internet.

HomerJSimpson
09-07-2005, 07:06 AM
Completely OT, but yes, they make those. Some models of mice are asymmetric and curve to fit in one's hand. These sometimes also have a left-hand model which curves the other way to fit in a left hand.


http://www.aceweekly.com/stationary_images/TheMoreYouKnow.jpg

Pumpy Tudors
09-07-2005, 07:08 AM
Some of you people are weird.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 07:11 AM
Some of you people are weird.
PumpyTroll

Subby
09-07-2005, 07:20 AM
Did you just call me a bitchtroll™?!? Don't make me make my wife make me slander you.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 07:24 AM
Don't make me make my wife make me slander you.
My wife's 1st post would say something like: "What's with all the weird guys named _ubby?"

Klinglerware
09-07-2005, 07:34 AM
But how do we know who really is a female? Just because they say they are? its the fucking internet, and the net doesn't differentiate. Would I get a pass because I might claim to be a female? For all we know, capsicum could just be an account FN created so he could troll (not that I'm saying it is). Nobody really knows each other (except in a few cases), so it should be treated as such.

That's a pretty good point. And for that matter, why should respect for women be the final litmus test for who should and shouldn't be suspended? Something is said about minorities on this board everyday that is borderline questionable, and doesn't get the board too riled up. What makes women a special case?

In the end, we should remember that FOFC is a multi-cultural place. People of every ethnicity, gender, class, orientation, etc., post here. We should strive to treat everyone here with dignity and respect. I believe civility is supposed to be a rule of the board. Perhaps another rule should be "we can be passionate and attack another person's argument as long as we take care not to attack the person".

Draft Dodger
09-07-2005, 07:36 AM
Did you just call me a bitchtroll™?!?

Oh. No. He. Diint.

Samdari
09-07-2005, 07:43 AM
What makes women a special case?

They have boobies.

Flasch186
09-07-2005, 07:48 AM
vagina.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 07:55 AM
vagina.
box him!

miked
09-07-2005, 07:55 AM
Was she suspended for that foul post in the New Orleans thread concerning "a friend" of hers? If so, then what are people complaining about. That post was about a 75 on a scale of 1-5 in nastiness. Good riddance to bad trolls.

Flasch186
09-07-2005, 07:57 AM
box him!

I was scientifically answering the question its not like i said box. teehehee

..."go put that in that box, Suzie." hehehehehe

Antmeister
09-07-2005, 08:00 AM
Was she suspended for that foul post in the New Orleans thread concerning "a friend" of hers? If so, then what are people complaining about. That post was about a 75 on a scale of 1-5 in nastiness. Good riddance to bad trolls.

I could be wrong, but I think that may have been the post to put a nailgun in her coffin.

jeff061
09-07-2005, 08:02 AM
Or maybe it was the one where she said that people who thought the hurricane was brought on by god to wipe out the homosexuals and sinners were reasonable, and that maybe San Francisco would be next.

Personally I think it's a vendetta against anyone FN has relations with.

miked
09-07-2005, 08:12 AM
http://www.mommiescamelot.com/forum/images/smilies/jail.gif

TroyF
09-07-2005, 08:14 AM
i don't find any of this entertaining. this entire scenario is like a broken record. i'll reserve comments on who i think is wrong/right. but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is. quite redundant, actually.

i will say, knowing someone is a wife of a FOFC regular or not - if you know someone is a woman and you call that person a bitch or some other foul word, it just goes to show how little character and class you have to knowingly speak to a woman that way. hey, i'm no saint, but i don't walk around the FOFC clubhouse with my cock out and not think there's ladies in my presence. i know of about 5 or 6 female regulars here, most of them are someone's wife. if there ever was a time they were to anger me i wouldn't say anything bad to them not cuz they're someone's spouse but cuz they're ladies.

have some respect Blacky.

i say these things not with my tongue in my cheeck, but out of concern. i think we go down a very dark path once we make women fair game here. sure, you know what you're walking into if you get into a political debate, but let's all try to act like gentlemen (emphasis on the word *try*). you might say i post some rather vulgar things, but i don't ever direct it to a particular female poster and i would think by now people know what to expect from me so if they considered me offensive they could ignore me. but, no, i don't verbally attack women.


With all do respect, that's BS.

Ladies shouldn't get any special treatment here. Everyone should be under the same rules. Either it's OK to call somean A-Hole, an F'n moron, an idiot or insult someone without fear of box time or it isn't.

Am I dissapointed Black went there? Hell yes. I didn't think it was necessary to get his point across and I think the only point in continuing it was to piss off FN and Cap. I don't think it served any other purpose. Just as I don't see the need for you to interject your hatred of QS into every other thread.

Either all personal attacks are stopped or they aren't. If they aren't (and I believe a majority of the board feels they are just fine), then everyone gets to deal with it. No special protection needed.

Anthony
09-07-2005, 08:22 AM
But if someone is being an asshole they're fair game to be called out for it, regardless--she lost her "lady" card. :rolleyes:

so if a woman hits you i guess you think it's fair game to hit her back? very manly of you.

jeff061
09-07-2005, 08:24 AM
Internet boards are not physical. Try again.

Raiders Army
09-07-2005, 08:32 AM
I didn't see Capsicum's post...however, regardless of male or female, when someone personally attacks someone else's known wife, I would expect retaliatory action against that person.

Blood is thicker than water, and regardless of whether my wife was right or wrong, I would back her up in public. In private it may be different, but to do nothing in the face of your spouse is absolutely horrible. I don't fault Franklin for defending his wife.

This thread, though, is a little overboard...

but very entertaining

Anthony
09-07-2005, 08:33 AM
Internet boards are not physical. Try again.

hypothetical question you drooling retard. :) i have little respect for people who think it's ok to treat a woman like you would a man.

this topic now officially bores me. i wash my hands of this.

Butter
09-07-2005, 08:43 AM
Can you give out negative stars for a thread? If so, how many?

jeff061
09-07-2005, 08:48 AM
hypothetical question you drooling retard. :) i have little respect for people who think it's ok to treat a woman like you would a man.

this topic now officially bores me. i wash my hands of this.

Troll, I'm reporting you to Skydog!!!







Not really

Bee
09-07-2005, 09:00 AM
Blood is thicker than water, and regardless of whether my wife was right or wrong, I would back her up in public. In private it may be different, but to do nothing in the face of your spouse is absolutely horrible. I don't fault Franklin for defending his wife.


Umm....so are you like married to your cousin or something?

:D

sachmo71
09-07-2005, 09:03 AM
Wasn't Blackie a mod? If so, a banning is out of the question.

Burn the newb, however.

sachmo71
09-07-2005, 09:04 AM
dola...you can only hit a woman if she's a snitch.

Antmeister
09-07-2005, 09:07 AM
Blackadar, I am just curious, what just took you over the top? And can you do so without the lighter.

In the past week, I saw a number of flare ups and I don't know if it has to do with a slight tilt on the planet's axis, the right alignment of stars in the galaxy, or group PMS, but it has been a while when I have seen a number of locked threads and typographical abuse.

Raiders Army
09-07-2005, 09:18 AM
Umm....so are you like married to your cousin or something?

:D
Uhhhhhhh....no. I can see where that would be misconstrued. Meant that family is more important than some "friends" you meet on an internet message board (for a text-sim). My bad.

There's nothing to see here...move along, move along.

Chubby
09-07-2005, 09:18 AM
Yup.

We can tell people to "f** off" or "f*** you".
We can call people "a**holes", "idiots" or "morons".
We can talk about screwing a sandwich.
We can threaten physical violence, repeatedly.
We can belittle and demean.

Ooh, but call someone a "bitchtroll" (if you want to blame me for something, at least get the term right) and Franklin gets all bent out of shape.

You want to fix this board? Leave.

I don't owe Capsicum any deference just because she's your wife. She's just another member - and a piss poor one at that. I'm glad she's gone and if you choose to follow, that's your business. The problem is that you seem to think that I should defer to her because she's your wife. Guess what? I don't - and that's your problem to deal with, not mine.
because you just call em like you see em, right?

No mention of that here, I'm disaapointed

Raiders Army
09-07-2005, 09:18 AM
These aren't the droids you're looking for.

Blackadar
09-07-2005, 09:22 AM
Blackadar, I am just curious, what just took you over the top? And can you do so without the lighter.

In the past week, I saw a number of flare ups and I don't know if it has to do with a slight tilt on the planet's axis, the right alignment of stars in the galaxy, or group PMS, but it has been a while when I have seen a number of locked threads and typographical abuse.

I would, but there's a couple of issues:

1. The original threads have been locked, edited and posts deleted, so it's quite impossible to try to accurately recreate the fiasco of Capsicum. Nor do I feel like doing so. You can see from the 5 previous pages of this thread that the vast majority of posters feel much the same way.

2. Even if I could, I feel that it would just reignite the flames. There's no way of trying to recreate it without doing so and it's probably a bad idea to even try.

3. I never went over the top. I just simply called a Spade a Spade. And Franklin (not surprisingly) blew a gasket. I fully expected Franklin to rush to defend his wife. That doesn't change the fact that I'm right.

rkmsuf
09-07-2005, 09:22 AM
this is a nerdfest

Antmeister
09-07-2005, 09:28 AM
I would, but there's a couple of issues:

1. The original threads have been locked, edited and posts deleted, so it's quite impossible to try to accurately recreate the fiasco of Capsicum. Nor do I feel like doing so. You can see from the 5 previous pages of this thread that the vast majority of posters feel much the same way.

2. Even if I could, I feel that it would just reignite the flames. There's no way of trying to recreate it without doing so and it's probably a bad idea to even try.

3. I never went over the top. I just simply called a Spade a Spade. And Franklin (not surprisingly) blew a gasket. I fully expected Franklin to rush to defend his wife. That doesn't change the fact that I'm right.

Oh, I read a number of those posts and I understand your frustrations but I was just wondering which post struck a nerve with you.

Subby
09-07-2005, 09:30 AM
this is a nerdfest Well, it is now. :D

rkmsuf
09-07-2005, 09:39 AM
Well, it is now. :D

HAR!


you are all beotches

Honolulu_Blue
09-07-2005, 09:45 AM
HAR!


you are all beotches
Would they be trollbeotches or just regular, ole plain beotches?

rkmsuf
09-07-2005, 09:46 AM
trollizzle bitchillzles my nizzle

RendeR
09-07-2005, 09:52 AM
I have to say, some of the shyte flowing in this thread is really hard to believe.

A) Man or Woman, if you spout ignorant shit on a message board, you deserve to get your ass handed to you on a platter.

B) I disagree that just because she's his wife he has to defend her. If Telle were to spout ignorant shit in the hateful and trollish manner that Caps has done in her first 50 posts, I'd be ripping her a new ass on and OFF the board for being a moron.

C) Blackie got pissed off and went a bit overboard, yes. He could at least stop repeating himself, its really ruining the effect of his insult.

D) finally, Franklin: If you can't open your eyes and see just how much damage your wife has done to an already injured community, perhaps you need to take a leave for awhile. yes, she is your wife, yes, she is a troll. You can't sit there and honestly argue against 99.9% of the community. How many people have stated they think she's in the wrong? How many have agreed with her. I can't keep track of the first, but I've seen only 2 of the latter, you and JiMG, and to be quite frank(no pun intended) that ought to give you a freaking clue.

But it won't because you're as biased as anyone can ever be and you don't really care about facts, as long as you don't get your feelings hurt.

Sad isn't it.

Galaxy
09-07-2005, 09:52 AM
hypothetical question you drooling retard. :) i have little respect for people who think it's ok to treat a woman like you would a man.

this topic now officially bores me. i wash my hands of this.

What if it was a woman who used to be a man?

It's differnet from internet then in real-life. Big difference. You don't know who's who.

oliegirl
09-07-2005, 10:01 AM
B) I disagree that just because she's his wife he has to defend her. If Telle were to spout ignorant shit in the hateful and trollish manner that Caps has done in her first 50 posts, I'd be ripping her a new ass on and OFF the board for being a moron.

I agree completely. If someone attacked me personally on the board, and I had brought it on myself, as capsicum did, radii would not defend me. He might tell me that it was a little overboard to get personal, but he would also tell me that I should have known better.

I wouldn't want someone to defend me if I didn't deserve it. I am a big girl and can take care of myself...except when I am scared of the dark ;)

RendeR
09-07-2005, 10:06 AM
I am a big girl and can take care of myself...except when I am scared of the dark ;)


You can always come snuggle with us if you get afraid when its dark ;)

Flasch186
09-07-2005, 10:07 AM
i just threw up in my mouth....a lil.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 10:10 AM
i just threw up in my mouth....a lil.
Don't take so much of it in next time.

RendeR
09-07-2005, 10:12 AM
Don't take so much of it in next time.


He shoots, he SCORES!!

Blackadar
09-07-2005, 10:18 AM
Hmmm...did this thread just take a turn for the better or the worse?


Hmmmm....


The better.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 10:29 AM
Are the mods reading this glorious thread? Let's check:

Vanderbilt 27, Georgia Bulldogs 0

Mmmm...haggis.

*clicks stop watch*

Radii
09-07-2005, 10:30 AM
I agree completely. If someone attacked me personally on the board, and I had brought it on myself, as capsicum did, radii would not defend me. He might tell me that it was a little overboard to get personal, but he would also tell me that I should have known better.

The conversation in our house usually goes something like this:

radii: Oh lord, that post is going to cause a shitstorm.

oliegirl: no it won't, there's nothing wrong with that.

(2 days go by, post has 50 followups, only 25% of them are guys falling over themselves to talk to a real, actual female, far less than normal, the rest are the predicted shitstorm)

radii: I TOLD YOU SO (except, of course, I don't say that out loud. I just sit back in my knowledge that, thank god I have FOFC, so once or twice in a year I can be the one that's right about something!)



And that shitstorm has only happened like 3 times in what, upwards of 1000 posts, so its not something anyone cares about anyway.


On a more serious note, Oliegirl is just another poster who enjoys the board who (in FOFC terms) happens to be my wife. She'll never have any credibility with anyone on the board herself if I run into every thread right behind her to show off how great I think she is, or threaten anyone who says anything bad about something she posts, that's asinine.

Radii
09-07-2005, 10:32 AM
Vanderbilt 27, Georgia Bulldogs 0

I get all excited when I read things like that, dammit.

HomerJSimpson
09-07-2005, 10:58 AM
I get all excited when I read things like that, dammit.


Clean up your shorts, junior, it ain't gonna happen.

Glengoyne
09-07-2005, 10:59 AM
Oliegirl won an I'm with Stupid, she has all the board cred she needs.

digamma
09-07-2005, 11:00 AM
Clean up your shorts, junior, it ain't gonna happen.
Never underestimate the power of Jay Cutler, pre-season first team All-SEC quarterback.

HomerJSimpson
09-07-2005, 11:04 AM
Never underestimate the power of Jay Cutler, pre-season first team All-SEC quarterback.


I like Jay, but he can't play defense.

dawgfan
09-07-2005, 11:52 AM
Shutup bitchtroll™

Did you just call me a bitchtroll™?!?

If I create a new account as BitchTroll, do I have to pay Blackie a fee?

Don't make me make my wife make me slander you.

Originally Posted by Klinglerware
What makes women a special case?

They have boobies.

Originally Posted by Flasch186
i just threw up in my mouth....a lil.

Don't take so much of it in next time.

You guys are the wind beneath my wings...thanks for reminding me why I like it here so much in spite of everything else.

st.cronin
09-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Are the mods reading this glorious thread? Let's check:

Vanderbilt 27, Georgia Bulldogs 0

Mmmm...haggis.

*clicks stop watch*

This post gets 5 stars.

Crapshoot
09-07-2005, 12:02 PM
Vanderbilt 27, Georgia Bulldogs 0



Is That referring to the number of students who will graduate on each team ? :D

gottimd
09-07-2005, 12:11 PM
Is That referring to the number of students who will graduate on each team ? :D
http://www.geocities.com/gottimd/Pics_and_Gifs/bazing.gif

Telle
09-07-2005, 12:14 PM
i don't find any of this entertaining. this entire scenario is like a broken record. i'll reserve comments on who i think is wrong/right. but this isn't as entertaining as many think it is. quite redundant, actually.

i will say, knowing someone is a wife of a FOFC regular or not - if you know someone is a woman and you call that person a bitch or some other foul word, it just goes to show how little character and class you have to knowingly speak to a woman that way. hey, i'm no saint, but i don't walk around the FOFC clubhouse with my cock out and not think there's ladies in my presence. i know of about 5 or 6 female regulars here, most of them are someone's wife. if there ever was a time they were to anger me i wouldn't say anything bad to them not cuz they're someone's spouse but cuz they're ladies.

have some respect Blacky.

i say these things not with my tongue in my cheeck, but out of concern. i think we go down a very dark path once we make women fair game here. sure, you know what you're walking into if you get into a political debate, but let's all try to act like gentlemen (emphasis on the word *try*). you might say i post some rather vulgar things, but i don't ever direct it to a particular female poster and i would think by now people know what to expect from me so if they considered me offensive they could ignore me. but, no, i don't verbally attack women.


What a load of chauvinistic horse shit. Women are not in need of special treatment. Having a vagina does not make you any more worthy of respect than anyone else.

Subby
09-07-2005, 12:18 PM
Having a vagina does not make you any more worthy of respect than anyone else.That is totally true. Just ask fritz.

Senator
09-07-2005, 12:37 PM
And IMETTRENTGREEN is a hermaphrodite, so he/she really is confused by all this.

cowboy up?

Fritz
09-07-2005, 12:39 PM
i just want to be in the thread.

HI MOM!

Radii
09-07-2005, 12:52 PM
Is That referring to the number of students who will graduate on each team ? :D

10 stars!

Blackadar
09-07-2005, 12:54 PM
Is That referring to the number of students who will graduate on each team ? :D

Roper and Ebert give this two thumbs up!

DanGarion
09-07-2005, 01:42 PM
What a load of chauvinistic horse shit. Women are not in need of special treatment. Having a vagina does not make you any more worthy of respect than anyone else.
And all this time I thought HA was a guy... ?!?!?!?!?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

sterlingice
09-07-2005, 02:07 PM
i just want to be in the thread.

HI MOM!
I think this is what has really suffered with the board of late and caused all these problems: not enough Fritz (yeah, I'm going to regret this statement in a couple of days, if not minutes, I'm sure) ;)

SI

Telle
09-07-2005, 02:28 PM
And all this time I thought HA was a guy... ?!?!?!?!?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

you ( P ) Pronunciation Key (y)
pron.
1. Used to refer to the one or ones being addressed: I'll lend you the book. You shouldn't work so hard. See Regional Note at you-all. See Regional Note at you-uns.
2. Used to refer to an indefinitely specified person; one: You can't win them all.
3. Nonstandard. Used reflexively as the indirect object of a verb: You might want to get you another pair of shoes.

B & B
09-07-2005, 02:37 PM
This thread had 6 LOL moments.

Mittens breath smells like cat food.

WSUCougar
09-07-2005, 02:43 PM
6???????????????????

jeff061
09-07-2005, 02:44 PM
Hmmmm. Did Mr. Noble get a sparkly new title?

Raiders Army
09-07-2005, 02:47 PM
Hmmmm. Did Mr. Noble get a sparkly new title?
Not that I can tell.

sabotai
09-07-2005, 02:49 PM
This thread had 6 LOL moments.

Mittens breath smells like cat food.
I bent my wookie. :(

jeff061
09-07-2005, 02:50 PM
Then I never noticed his old one.

DanGarion
09-07-2005, 02:51 PM
6???????????????????
haha 19 question marks!

SnDvls
09-07-2005, 03:05 PM
can I get a chart about what's going on here so I don't have to read all 5 pages?



P.S. just wanted to be in this thread like everyone else. :)

gottimd
09-07-2005, 03:06 PM
can I get a chart about what's going on here so I don't have to read all 5 pages?



P.S. just wanted to be in this thread like everyone else. :)

You need more question marks.

SnDvls
09-07-2005, 03:13 PM
You need more question marks.


sorry



can I get a chart about what's going on here so I don't have to read all 5 pages??????????????????????

better??????????????????????????????????????????

Ryan S
09-07-2005, 03:15 PM
I think it is time to end this thread.

And to answer FranklinNobles original post, do not mistake this board for a democracy. Capiscum's posts were definitely causing disruption, and given her post history I can only conclude that she came here to cause conflict. I can't help but think that was more harmful than some of the personal attacks.