MVP NCAA Baseball 2006 [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

Huckleberry

09-07-2005, 01:30 PM

I think they would have been better served making a game with fictional players. It's not like college football or basketball where you have quite a few stars. I don't think I can name more than one college baseball player.
What do you mean. The game would have to ship with fictional players. You can't sell a game with college player names on it.

The real names would come from 3rd party roster sets, just like the football game. I doubt roster accuracy is even decent on the first version of this game.

TroyF

09-07-2005, 01:39 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I have no desire to play a baseball game that doesn't have the sound of the crack of the bat.

Baseball video games are something I play for the experience, not because I like the players or teams. MVP was a terrific game and I still play it on occasion. A college game that "pings" everytime I make good contact? No thanks.

FWIW, I realize this may seem like a stupid, petty, minor gripe, but it really would impact the enjoyment of the game for me. It's one of the reasons I've never been a big fan of college baseball in the first place.

MizzouRah

09-07-2005, 01:55 PM

I just really like the MVP engine so this definitly looks intriguing.

jbmagic

09-07-2005, 01:57 PM

Todd

this is old news

i reported this awhile back. i guess no one notice :(

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=39529&highlight=mvp+2006

Cuckoo

09-07-2005, 02:04 PM

Todd

this is old news

i reported this awhile back. i guess no one notice :(

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=39529&highlight=mvp+2006

I think he posted because it appears to be official now with the release of the screens, jb.

Cuckoo

09-07-2005, 02:05 PM

DOLA

I'm actually excited about this, even though I'm not a big college baseball fan. Maybe just because it's unique.

dawgfan

09-07-2005, 02:09 PM

Interesting. I wonder how the recruiting is handled, and how they deal with players leaving early for the draft (as well as recruits). I could see myself interested enough to pick up a copy.

On a semi-related note, what was the name of that online text-sim college baseball game? I played it way back in the early test phases, and I was impressed by how it worked, both in terms of recruiting and in how players progressed. I didn't like it as much after they started another beta and quit playing...

illinifan999

09-07-2005, 02:10 PM

I have been waiting for this game for about 10 years now.

pennywisesb

09-07-2005, 02:21 PM

This seems like a pretty cool idea. I'd definately be interested enough to pick up a copy and play with my beloved UCSB.

NoMyths

09-07-2005, 02:32 PM

I'd be more interested in this than in a MLB console game, actually. No more effing salary cap! :)

Though I can't imagine that the stands of most of the schools would be as full as what they'll probably make them. ;)

General Mike

09-07-2005, 02:38 PM

What do you mean. The game would have to ship with fictional players. You can't sell a game with college player names on it.

The real names would come from 3rd party roster sets, just like the football game. I doubt roster accuracy is even decent on the first version of this game.

I mean they should have made a Baseball Stars type game. Old School. For the most part, people don't care about college baseball. It's a niche sport. Like Women's basketball.

NoMyths

09-07-2005, 02:45 PM

Another big draw: many fewer games in a season. So you can actually play out a season in a decent time.

stevew

09-07-2005, 03:01 PM

Another big draw: many fewer games in a season. So you can actually play out a season in a decent time.

Yeah, I'm definately all about this game*

assuming it doesnt suck

Raiders Army

09-07-2005, 03:10 PM

Cool. I'm all for Pitcher #13 striking out LF #22.

NoMyths

09-07-2005, 03:12 PM

If it's anything like the new NCAA football game, there's an option to automatically assign (random) names to all the teams.

dawgfan

09-07-2005, 03:51 PM

Yeah, I'm definately all about this game*

assuming it doesnt suck

Very good point. Here's hoping it's possible to find slider settings that allow the in-game experience to be both believable as well and realistically challenging. I like to win, but if I go 55-0 and outscore the computer 500-50, I'm a little less interested in playing out the games.

That's not an absolute killer for me though - I had fun simming most of my games in previous versions of MVP and playing only a handful. Same with NCAA Football.

stevew

09-07-2005, 04:03 PM

Very good point. Here's hoping it's possible to find slider settings that allow the in-game experience to be both believable as well and realistically challenging. I like to win, but if I go 55-0 and outscore the computer 500-50, I'm a little less interested in playing out the games.

That's not an absolute killer for me though - I had fun simming most of my games in previous versions of MVP and playing only a handful. Same with NCAA Football.
I have no idea what "good" college stats are. Im guessing if you were a top notch team, realistically you could probably win 80% of your games, and outscore the computer by a ton.

dawgfan

09-07-2005, 04:10 PM

I have no idea what "good" college stats are. Im guessing if you were a top notch team, realistically you could probably win 80% of your games, and outscore the computer by a ton.

True. But I guess my point is I don't want to be able to take an average or worse program and be able to kick the computer's ass on a regular basis - I'd like to be able to find a realistic challenge level that also plays in a believable manner.

Huckleberry

09-07-2005, 04:12 PM

http://www.hornfans.com/recruiting/huckleberry/2005CBAS.TXT

Best winning percentage was .824 last season. All depends on schedule in college ball. South Carolina went 52-8 (.867) in 2000, but usually the best record is .800-.825 every year.

Eaglesfan27

09-07-2005, 04:29 PM

I'm looking forward to eventually checking this out. I had heard plenty of rumors that this was coming out, but it's nice to hear that it is confirmed.

MJ4H

09-07-2005, 04:52 PM

I AM ALL OVER THIS ONE.

i like baseball and hate MLB. beautiful. and of course im a big college sports fan. this is like a dream come true for me. it will be like enjoying baseball for the first time for me.

Blade6119

09-07-2005, 05:35 PM

Blade6119

09-07-2005, 05:36 PM

dola, i think with recruiting and what not this could be awesome...What would make the game for me would be the option to export to MVP 2005

Huckleberry

09-07-2005, 05:53 PM

Wow, did i see 8 west coast in top 15...damn, tha doesnt happen often
The west and south kick ass in college baseball for obvious reasons. Every year. The new rules changes are an attempt to correct for that.

st.cronin

09-07-2005, 05:55 PM

The west and south kick ass in college baseball for obvious reasons. Every year. The new rules changes are an attempt to correct for that.

What are the new rules changes?

Huckleberry

09-07-2005, 06:02 PM

What are the new rules changes?
Earliest allowed start date has been moved to be mandatory as the last Friday in February, pending "legislative approval" I think. This would go into effect in 2008.

Right now many western and some southern teams start in January.

Young Drachma

09-07-2005, 06:17 PM

dola, i think with recruiting and what not this could be awesome...What would make the game for me would be the option to export to MVP 2005

Agreed.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

09-07-2005, 07:43 PM

Hope it comes out for PC.

jbmagic

09-07-2005, 08:10 PM

Hope it comes out for PC.

it will like previous versions of MVP has.

vex

09-07-2005, 08:21 PM

it will like previous versions of MVP has.
I wouldn't really say that there has been a previous version.

jbmagic

09-07-2005, 08:28 PM

I wouldn't really say that there has been a previous version.

Mvp 2003, 2004 and 2005 all on the pc and console.

there changing it to college because of MLB license for MVP 2006

stevew

09-07-2005, 08:28 PM

it will like previous versions of MVP has.
I bet it doesnt, FWIW.

stevew

09-07-2005, 08:30 PM

Mvp 2003, 2004 and 2005 all on the pc and console.

there changing it to college because of MLB license for MVP 2006
MVP is scheduled to ship for both the PS2 and Xbox in spring 2006, promising "exclusive new online features" for both systems.

No mention of the PC.

jbmagic

09-07-2005, 08:33 PM

MVP is scheduled to ship for both the PS2 and Xbox in spring 2006, promising "exclusive new online features" for both systems.

No mention of the PC.

damn that sucks

MizzouRah

11-07-2005, 08:02 PM

Tons O' New screens:

http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/766/766867/imgs_1.html

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/664/664917/mvp-06-ncaa-baseball-20051107103914894.jpg

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/664/664917/mvp-06-ncaa-baseball-20051107103934253.jpg

MJ4H

11-07-2005, 08:24 PM

woot. release date?

tucker342

11-07-2005, 09:24 PM

finally, I can lead the Iowa baseball team to the national championship!:D

Logan

11-07-2005, 09:38 PM

A lot will depend on price.

Blade6119

11-07-2005, 09:51 PM

Have to say im dissapointed the ASU stadium(the top pic) shows grassy hills in the background instead of either desert or like in real life a bunch of buildings from the ASU campus(especially sun devil stadium which looms over the field.

MizzouRah

11-08-2005, 04:33 PM

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/asu/galleries/asu-packard-stadium-gallery011504/Packard_Stadium-lg.jpg

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/664/664917/mvp-06-ncaa-baseball-20051107103914894.jpg

Blade6119

11-08-2005, 04:36 PM

The stadium looms over the back, the side you cant see...but maybe its closer then i thought....wow, i live 20 feet from there and thought it looked different

WSUCougar

11-08-2005, 04:38 PM

wow, i live 20 feet from there and thought it looked different
*reduce beer intake by 25%*

ice4277

11-08-2005, 04:42 PM

I would imagine that with the number of stadiums they will have to create, they are going to cut corners on most of them.

dawgfan

11-08-2005, 05:19 PM

I would imagine that with the number of stadiums they will have to create, they are going to cut corners on most of them.

I would also guess that on this first iteration of a college version that they probably didn't have enough time to really get good reference material for all the stadiums. This will likely improve with future versions (assuming they keep producing the game).

Stadium accuracy for a college baseball sim is rather low on my list of priorities compared to a MLB sim.

Huckleberry

11-12-2005, 12:30 AM

Which college baseball stadiums will be featured on the game?

GR: Outside of the obvious facility in Rosenblatt Stadium, EA told us that there will be 16 ballparks on the game. Teams that will have their ballparks on the game include Texas, Ole Miss, Baylor, Georgia Tech, Cal-State Fullerton, Clemson, Florida State, LSU, Rice, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, Miami, Nebraska, Southern California, Notre Dame and Tennessee.

http://rosenblattreport.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=477823

dervack

11-12-2005, 11:22 AM

They also said not every Division 1 team will be in there, but they hope for the next one will.

JonInMiddleGA

11-12-2005, 11:34 AM

GR: Outside of the obvious facility in Rosenblatt Stadium, EA told us that there will be 16 ballparks on the game. Teams that will have their ballparks on the game include Texas, Ole Miss, Baylor, Georgia Tech, Cal-State Fullerton, Clemson, Florida State, LSU, Rice, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, Miami, Nebraska, Southern California, Notre Dame and Tennessee.

Sounds a lot like the SuperRegional host sites.

Easy Mac

11-12-2005, 11:46 AM

dawgfan

11-12-2005, 01:32 PM

Is it really that hard to add the other 200 teams? All they add are 200 logos, some jersey numbers, randomize the skills, and model a conference (copy and paste). Not that hard, and I doubt it would max out a DVD, or heaven help us when the 360 comes out with only DVD's.

Well, there's a difference between doing a minimum amount of work to add the teams if you don't really care about accuracy. I have no idea if they're attempting to mimic actual rosters as they do with NCAA Football; I doubt it though, which means that yes, they could just populate the rosters with randomly generated players that conform to an overall team talent level. Adding the logos for all the teams probably isn't much work at all, especially considering they already have most from the NCAA Football franchise.

Uniforms though, if you want to be accurate would take a lot of time. Now, it's easier in baseball to get away with doing a 'generic' style uniform and just code certain parts of the jersey to be the right color and throw whatever logo you have on the cap. But that won't be accurate for most teams.

I suspect if this is true that it's a mix of a decision to go for accuracy at the expense of having more teams, and perhaps not enough time to test the size and scope of having all teams included and making sure things like scheduling and recruiting work.

I'm not sure when they started development on this title, but it's possible that EA Canada was already on their way to doing another rev of MVP when Take 2 bought the exclusive rights to the MLB license, forcing EA to change tactics mid-stream.

It may also be the case that EA is deciding to test the waters with this release to see what the market is like, and is hedging their costs a bit by not going overboard on the work needed to completely flesh out the NCAA universe in their game.

Huckleberry

11-17-2005, 08:18 AM

Stadium Tour (http://sports.ign.com/articles/667/667706p1.html)

Toddzilla

11-17-2005, 09:35 AM

Does Enrico Pallazzo sing the national anthem at the Tennessee staduim? LOL

Pumpy Tudors

11-17-2005, 12:01 PM

I can understand them possibly being unable to get every Division I team in there, but honestly, if I can't be my alma mater, I don't see why I'd bother with the game. It looks great, but I doubt that the Sun Belt Conference will be represented. Perhaps I won't be playing any console baseball games next year. MVP 2005 just spoiled me. I guess I could keep playing THAT, but I doubt it.

Hopefully, if they do a followup version to the college baseball game, they'll have a chance to get all of the Vision I teams in, and then I'll be happy. :)

Balldog

11-17-2005, 04:30 PM

You are in luck Pumpy Tudors!

Which conferences will be on the game?

Atlantic Coast Conference, Big 12, Big East, Big 10, Big West, Conference USA, Missouri Valley Conference, Mountain West Conference
Pacific-10 Conference, Southeastern Conference, The Patriot League, Sun Belt Conference, West Coast Conference, Western Athletic Conference

Interview on RosenblattReport.com
http://rosenblattreport.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=479942

dervack

12-01-2005, 10:42 PM

http://sports.ign.com/articles/673/673101p1.html

List of the teams that are going to be in the game.

Eaglesfan27

12-01-2005, 10:53 PM

I wonder how detailed the "create a ballpark" feature that link mentioned will be.

illinifan999

12-01-2005, 11:01 PM

I wonder how detailed the "create a ballpark" feature that link mentioned will be.
Hopefully a little moreso than last year's.

illinifan999

12-01-2005, 11:03 PM

dola

Good to see Southern Illinois is in the game. Now I'm really excited. :D

dervack

12-01-2005, 11:51 PM

dola

Good to see Southern Illinois is in the game. Now I'm really excited. :D
I was freaking out when I seen Illinois State, and not Illinois, until I looked under University of Illinois.

Pumpy Tudors

12-02-2005, 10:51 AM

Oh, shit, I didn't even notice Balldog's post on the same day as mine. I can bring UNO to glory! We have the honor of being the first Louisiana school to ever make it to the College World Series, but I don't think we're ever gonna win one... until I take over! HAHAHAHAHA!

dervack

12-20-2005, 03:19 PM

They just announced the release date and price. It will ship on Jan. 17, and be on sale the 18th at a price of 29.99. No word if the Xbox version will be compatible with the 360, and EA has made no announcements of a 360 version at this time.

Mike1409

12-20-2005, 09:53 PM

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet.

PLAY OF THE DAY VIDEO
http://media.sports.ign.com/articles/677/677744/vids_1.html

This game looks awesome. I can't wait.

Eaglesfan27

12-20-2005, 09:54 PM

Gamespot talks about the new swing mechanic which sounds interesting. Apparently, ala Tiger Woods, the R analog stick controls the swing.

MizzouRah

01-14-2006, 06:07 PM

IGN Review is up: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/681/681281p1.html

Darn it, too many good games.. so little time. At $30, I think I'll pick this one up.

ice4277

01-14-2006, 06:09 PM

IGN Review is up: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/681/681281p1.html

Darn it, too many good games.. so little time. At $30, I think I'll pick this one up.
I was thinking about it, but I really wish they had all the D-I teams. That is a major negative for me.

Celeval

01-14-2006, 06:18 PM

I'm definately leaning towards picking this up... very intrigued.

Eaglesfan27

01-14-2006, 06:31 PM

If it is 360 compatible, I'll be getting this.

Eaglesfan27

01-14-2006, 07:25 PM

dawgfan

01-14-2006, 08:35 PM

...and being able to use wooden bats! However, he might have been joking..
Man, I hope not. While I'm sure to buy this game, it's going to drive me up the wall if I have to listen to *TINK* all game long instead of *CRACK*...

MJ4H

01-14-2006, 08:53 PM

I prefer the TINK to the CRACK myself (I hope this doesn't get taken out of context, I'll sound like a druggie) but I've always really hated MLB and loved college baseball.

dervack

01-15-2006, 03:03 AM

Dola -

Reading a thread on OS where an editor got to play a copy, and he mentioned that they are working very hard on making it 360 compatible.

He also mentioned (but might have been joking) that there was a "summers rule" option for being able to slide hard into players and being able to use wooden bats! However, he might have been joking..
He's not. Summer rules are defintely in the game. When I read about it, I took it to mean summer leagues, like the Cape Cid league, which does have college players using wooden bats.

And I hope they make it 360 compatible, otherwise I won't be picking it up.

cougarfreak

01-15-2006, 07:54 AM

Man, I hope not. While I'm sure to buy this game, it's going to drive me up the wall if I have to listen to *TINK* all game long instead of *CRACK*...

Types of bats was on one of the options screens on a screenshot over at operationsports. You could choose between wood and aluminum. Not sure if wood would be an option for season games or not though.

biological warrior

01-15-2006, 11:55 AM

Anyone know if the game has a dynasty mode
?

Eaglesfan27

01-15-2006, 11:58 AM

Anyone know if the game has a dynasty mode
?
Yes. Early professional reviews talk quite favorably about recruiting.

biological warrior

01-15-2006, 12:09 PM

Yes. Early professional reviews talk quite favorably about recruiting.
As long as the dynasty mode resembles NCAA fottball's then I'll be set.

Eaglesfan27

01-15-2006, 12:37 PM

As long as the dynasty mode resembles NCAA fottball's then I'll be set.
It apparently has a few wrinkles in which you have to meet certain goals to be able to get top recruits. I'm not sure if that is going to work well or not, but it should be interesting.

Blade6119

01-15-2006, 01:11 PM

I think NCAA Footballs recruiting was way too easy, i could take any team and make them great in 3-4 years...i hope this is harder

Eaglesfan27

01-25-2006, 04:05 PM

Anyone have any more impressions about the game? It's in stock at a local store and I'm debating on buying it during my lunch break tomorrow.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.

rexallllsc

01-25-2006, 04:24 PM

Recruiting is harder. Much harder, IMO than fb

Eaglesfan27

01-25-2006, 04:53 PM

Well darn, the store sold out already.

Pumpy Tudors

01-25-2006, 05:50 PM

I haven't played since the night I brought it home. I'm wondering if ithere's a way to reduce or eliminate the slowdown. I'll get back to it soon no matter what, though.

biological warrior

01-28-2006, 10:01 PM

Has anyone hit a homerun yet? I've played 13 games and have yet to: hit one or have one blasted against me.

Young Drachma

01-28-2006, 10:03 PM

Yeah, I haven't hit a homerun either. But then, I also haven't played it much since I bought it. I think I will now...

illinifan999

01-28-2006, 10:25 PM

Has anyone hit a homerun yet? I've played 13 games and have yet to: hit one or have one blasted against me.
I've hit quite a few, a few with the power button, a few without.

How's recruiting going so far with everyone? Any tips? So far all I'm managaing to do is drive my team into the ground.

Eaglesfan27

01-28-2006, 10:28 PM

Of course, homeruns are much less common in college baseball. Bill Abner had a good post about this on operation sports. I just wish I could find the game at a store somewhere within a reasonable distance of me.

dawgfan

01-29-2006, 02:15 PM

How's recruiting going so far with everyone? Any tips? So far all I'm managaing to do is drive my team into the ground.
I dunno - I guess I'm doing OK since I'm keeping Washington in the hunt for the CWS each season. I basically start the season targeting the 3 highest guys in the Baseball America list that are available for my team that fit my upcoming needs. I put the 50 points on them to scout them the first week, and if they all have decent projected trends I proceed to give them each a 150 point visit to the school. That usually raises their interest level to near 50%, and after I've spent visits on all of them I add the smaller point total actions to get their interest level at or above 50%. I also start scouting lower-tiered guys where I have a definite need area, usually guys that have a small amount of interest level in my program already. The ones that have promising upward development arcs I give visits to.

By the time the quiet period hits, I usually have at least 5 guys that are at the 50% interest level, usually more. When the signing period happens, most of those guys are still available and then it comes down to a case of negotiation. I usually try to scale back the playing time expectation if I can, and sometimes I have to jack up the scholarship amount to make up for it. Seems like you only get 3 shots at negotiating with a guy, so if you really want him you'd better make a good offer that 3rd time around.

My team is at a 3 prestige level - I'm not sure how many recruiting points per week you get as you get higher. I don't know if the recruiting points add up if you don't spend them that week - it's either that, or the really high prestige teams get a lot more recruiting points, otherwise I have no idea how you'd be able to spend that 450 point home visit option with a player. I assume that action goes a long way to assuring that a kid will commit with you.