Final Playoff Push: NYY@BOS, CLE@CWS [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

SirFozzie

09-29-2005, 10:57 PM

Ok. there are three teams going into two spots (The White Sox cannot miss the playoffs, if they end up tied with the Indians, they'd both have a better record then the AL East Runner up, and the White Sox won the season series, which meant that they would win the Central and the Indians would be the Wild Card:

So, the possibilities:

If The Red Sox Sweep the Yankees: AL East Champions (and the indians need to win two of three to take the WC, if swept, NYY is in, if they win one of three, WC Playoffs)

If the Red Sox Take two out of three, and the Indians take two of three: Three Way Playoff (AL EAST playoff with Bos at NYY, and the loser of that game plays Cleveland for the Wildcard)

Sox Take Two of three, Indians sweep: AL East Playoff.

Sox Take Two out of Three, Indians lose two or three: Yankees win tie breaker (Season Series), get AL East, Sox get WC, Indians out.

Sox win same amount (0 or 1) as Indians: WC Playoff at Boston

st.cronin

09-30-2005, 12:09 AM

I think it's a relic from years gone by, but at this time of year I always feel detached from the Red Sox ... as if I sense their impending doom, but am insuring that psychologically I am protected. I assumed last year would change that, but it hasn't. I'm watching with clinical curiosity - although eventually I will get sucked in, I'm sure.

clintl

09-30-2005, 12:13 AM

Go Boston. Go Cleveland. Keep the Yankees out of the postseason.

kingnebwsu

09-30-2005, 03:12 AM

Go Boston. Go Cleveland. Keep the Yankees out of the postseason.

Agreed. That would be a best case scenario. But sadly, I feel a worst case scenario (to me) is that Cleveland will blow it and miss the playoffs. That'd suck.

Ksyrup

09-30-2005, 06:58 AM

Go Boston. Go Cleveland. Keep the Yankees out of the postseason.
This is what I've been rooting for since August. And I'm getting damn sick of watching the Yankees do so well. It's pissing me off. I desperately hope that last Sunday was Bernie Williams' last game in Yankee Stadium - nothing against him, but it would mean no playoffs for the Yankees.

Ragone

09-30-2005, 07:50 AM

I'd love to see boston miss the playoffs.. and the yanks out in round one.. or vice versa.. Otherwise.. *yawn*

QuikSand

09-30-2005, 07:52 AM

Sublime 2

09-30-2005, 09:18 AM

I've long had a soft spot for the Indiands anyway ... but I can't be the only fan who, in pretty much every circumstance in modern baseball, just roots for whatever team has the lower (lowest) payroll.

Go Tribe!

I've always been this way, unless it's my local team, in which case I will always root for them. In this case obviously the Red Sox. I've never veered from my New England/Boston teams, but when these teams are out of the playoffs I've always rooted for the Underdog (Damn those Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Seattle Sonics), or a fav. players team (Damn those Shawn Kemp Sonics).

SirFozzie

09-30-2005, 08:42 PM

sheesh, 5-3 Red Sox, bottom 7th, 2 on For Manny and 1-0 Chicago (who started SEVEN bench warmers) leading over the Indians in the 9th

Celeval

09-30-2005, 09:07 PM

Indians tie it up in the bottom of the ninth, and then miss out in the bottom on a crazy double play. Top 10 now.

Celeval

09-30-2005, 09:09 PM

Dola... my mother's family is from Cleveland so I picked up all the teams there from her. Go Tribe!

SirFozzie

09-30-2005, 09:22 PM

And the Red Sox win 5-3, tying up the AL East.

Cleveland needs to win in extra innings at home (in the 11th) versus Chicago to make this a three way tie.

Ksyrup

09-30-2005, 09:30 PM

Phillies win, Lidge is imploding...all I need is the Indians to win and Cubs to hang on, and this will have been a perfect night.

Buccaneer

09-30-2005, 09:37 PM

Go Boston. Go Cleveland. Keep the Yankees out of the postseason.
Agree.

sterlingice

09-30-2005, 09:40 PM

Phillies win, Lidge is imploding...all I need is the Indians to win and Cubs to hang on, and this will have been a perfect night.
Why do you so like the 10-1 misery the Jays inflicted on the Royals :( ;)

SI

stevew

09-30-2005, 09:40 PM

Hmm. I wonder if there is hope for the Phillies still.

SirFozzie

09-30-2005, 10:31 PM

And the Tribe loses in thirteen (worst possible result, not only are they a game back and needing to win both to do it.. they used a ton of pitchers).

NYY/BOS tied, Cleveland 1 back.

samifan24

09-30-2005, 10:42 PM

Tribe had chances but couldn't finish off the Sox. Now they're in a must win position tomorrow. :(

TroyF

09-30-2005, 11:11 PM

Tribe had chances but couldn't finish off the Sox. Now they're in a must win position tomorrow. :(

They've been in a must win position for most of this week. They need to start acting like it.

Sublime 2

09-30-2005, 11:13 PM

WHOOO SOX!!! Lets Go BoSox!!

SirFozzie

09-30-2005, 11:15 PM

Red Sox clinch at least a tie for the playoff berth with a Win or an Indians Loss.

BTW, if the Sox win tommorrow and the Indians Lose, then the final game of the year will be the playoff (Yanks would win ties if there's no playoff needed, because they would win the season series 10-9)

SirFozzie

10-01-2005, 01:52 PM

And the Yankees are eating Wakefield raw, 7-2 Yankees. Combined with the Indians winning, the Yanks would have a game lead and the Sox and the Indians would be tied for WC entering final day.

Buccaneer

10-01-2005, 01:55 PM

There was a bit of a moment in the BoSox/NYY game just now. A Yankees batter hit a shot foul down left field line and the hot young lady working the line speared it. Then they did a close up on her and she was tounging her lips laughing.

Jon

10-01-2005, 01:56 PM

Sir Fozzie: Is the Fox station in your area interrupting the game with a view in of the Chicago-Cleveland game? Here we missed an entire half inning watching that game, with the stupid picture in a picture of the Boston-New York game. Okay, Cleveland scored, we get it. Now get us back to the game we want to see, esp. with a man in scoring position and Johnny Damon up to bat.

SirFozzie

10-01-2005, 02:06 PM

we're getting split screens, which absolutely SUCK (you should read the guys over at the Royal Rooters message board at redsoxnation.net.. they're fuming).

Jon

10-01-2005, 02:16 PM

We also have the problem of missing pitches. When Ortiz hit the double off of the wall, we missed it altogether for some stupid lottery commercial. I've tried calling Fox, but it's busy (obviously).

sterlingice

10-01-2005, 02:25 PM

See- I'd rather have the split screen to watch both games.

SI

Jon

10-01-2005, 02:28 PM

Have one game on Fox and the other on FX, like they do the division series.

sterlingice

10-01-2005, 02:35 PM

Contracts probably prohibit the FX game.

As it is, I'd much rather watch a 4-3 game than 7-3 since both have major playoff implications.

SI

Easy Mac

10-01-2005, 02:44 PM

how does a guy run into the grass to avoid a tag and not get called out?

sterlingice

10-01-2005, 02:45 PM

Because umps need glasses, of course

SI

Buccaneer

10-01-2005, 02:57 PM

how does a guy run into the grass to avoid a tag and not get called out?
That was so idiotic. The ump was clearly watching it.

Jon

10-01-2005, 03:06 PM

I'll admit that the ump blew the call. Francona should have called the 1st base ump over.

Ragone

10-01-2005, 06:22 PM

I can't believe you all are watching baseball when there is good football games on..

:)

Buccaneer

10-01-2005, 07:28 PM

Obviously I have been living in a cave for 25 years, when did they stop having a 1-game playoff for the division title?

TazFTW

10-01-2005, 07:36 PM

Either when the wild card was introduced or in 2003 when baseball updated the tiebreaker rules.

Buccaneer

10-01-2005, 08:29 PM

Why?

Ksyrup

10-01-2005, 08:38 PM

Because they did away with 3-team ties, I assume to avoid having to have 2 1-game playoffs (1 for the division, then another for the WC). I didn't realize it either, and I think it sucks.

Buccaneer

10-01-2005, 08:40 PM

I had thought everyone was talking about such a scenario (2 1-game playoffs) since Thursday. Apparently that was never going to happen?

Celeval

10-01-2005, 08:59 PM

It would have if all 3 could end up in a tie. The Indians can't tie the Yanks and Sox anymore.

It would have been 2 1-game playoffs if the Indians had won today and tomorrow. If the Sox win, then the Yankees and Sox are tied; but the Indians would be a game back and out. NY and Boston are the Champs and WC, and there's no 1-game playoff, since both are in.

Ryan S

10-01-2005, 09:00 PM

I had thought everyone was talking about such a scenario (2 1-game playoffs) since Thursday. Apparently that was never going to happen?
If Cleveland, Boston and New York had ended the season tied in the standings they would have played two playoff games. One for the AL East, and one for the Wildcard.

MLB now no longer holds playoff games for division titles if both teams are going to make the playoffs. Since the Yankees win total can not be matched by the Indians, if the Red Sox tied with the Yankees both teams would be in the playoffs.

Buccaneer

10-01-2005, 09:05 PM

Understood, thanks.

sterlingice

10-01-2005, 09:50 PM

I can't believe you all are watching baseball when there is good football games on..

:)
I can't believe you're watching mostly meaningless football games when there's pennant chase baseball on. ;)

SI

sterlingice

10-02-2005, 01:23 PM

I'm really liking the ESPN2 coverage today. It feels like the NCAA tourney- they head to whatever game seems like it's having the most exciting situation so you can go from Phils/Nats with 1st and 3rd until the end of the inning to the White Sox threatening against the Indians and then Houston/Chicago. Good stuff :D

SI

Galaxy

10-02-2005, 01:26 PM

So what is the situation going into today?

Yankees are in with the division title.

jeff061

10-02-2005, 01:27 PM

I hope they gut Millar and every single one of his posse next year. I love the Sox, but these last 2 years I haven't been a big fan of their players.

sterlingice

10-02-2005, 01:28 PM

So what is the situation going into today?

Yankees are in with the division title. Astros win, they're in as NL Wild Card.
Red Sox win, they're in as AL Wild Card.

Astros lose and Phils win, they go to a playoff
Red Sox lose and Indians win, they go to a playoff

SI

Philliesfan980

10-02-2005, 01:30 PM

sterlingice

10-02-2005, 01:34 PM

Greg Maddux can officially kiss my ass. That guy should have retired 2 years ago. The only reason he will be in the hall of fame is because his strike zone was expanded for him during 93-99. That is all from a phillies fan. Considering his VORP is higher than all but Brett Myers on the Phils staff and that he was slated to begin the year as the Cubs #4 starter tells me that you might be looking at this through Philly red colored glasses. ;)

SI

Philliesfan980

10-02-2005, 01:36 PM

Considering his VORP is higher than all but Brett Myers on the Phils staff and that he was slated to begin the year as the Cubs #4 starter tells me that you might be looking at this through Philly red colored glasses. ;)

SI

Oh I know he's great, just blowing off some steam. We needed some help today and it looks like we're not going to get it. 2-0 against oswalt is almost like game over.

Realistically, the Phillies only have themselves to blame. Getting swept by the Astros at home in September doesn't really help matters much.

sterlingice

10-02-2005, 01:38 PM

Oh I know he's great, just blowing off some steam. We needed some help today and it looks like we're not going to get it. 2-0 against oswalt is almost like game over.
Well, hence the smiley. ;) I'd feel for you if I weren't pulling for the Astros

SI

Philliesfan980

10-02-2005, 01:43 PM

Well, hence the smiley. ;) I'd feel for you if I weren't pulling for the Astros

SI

Thanks! The Astros's are playing pretty good ball right now, they have the pitching to get to the WS if they can score enough.

Its just a shame that the Phillies won't get a chance to prove themselves in the playoff's. This team has really come around and I think could compete with anyone thats currently in the playoff's (in the NL). The Braves are terrible, but will advance because they'll be playing the lowly Padres.