2005 MLB Playoffs Thread [Archive] - Page 3 - Front Office Football Central

st.cronin

10-19-2005, 10:14 PM

Well, it was not in the Cards this year. We just could not hit the ball and we went cold at the wrong of time of the year. As Billy Beane says, the baseball playoffs are a crapshoot. The Cardinals just drew the losing ticket this year.

Dude, you've got a whole three outs left!! Don't give up!!!

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:14 PM

There seem to be a lot of Astro fans there, I am impressed.

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:17 PM

OMG, this is it right here.

Tasan

10-19-2005, 10:19 PM

Steeeerike three.

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:20 PM

ONE MORE OUT!!!!

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:21 PM

This is it! We are finally going to do it

Ksyrup

10-19-2005, 10:21 PM

Did they just flash the Astros/White Sox WS graphic with 2 outs? Holy shit.

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:21 PM

....shit

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:21 PM

Ceee-rist. I hate this shit.

henry296

10-19-2005, 10:21 PM

Shouldn't have put up the Astros vs. White Sox graphic.

Tasan

10-19-2005, 10:22 PM

BRING ON THE WHITESOX!!!

kingfc22

10-19-2005, 10:22 PM

Well it's about time

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:22 PM

Hell YAH!!!!

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:22 PM

WE'RE GOING TO THE FUCKING WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kingfc22

10-19-2005, 10:23 PM

Now please beat the Sox.

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:23 PM

I wanna see :(

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:23 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ksyrup

10-19-2005, 10:23 PM

Whew. Fox was aiming for a 7th game with that WS graphic gimmick.

Logan

10-19-2005, 10:23 PM

I really just don't understand TV production crews.

Do they really think I want to see Jason FUCKING Lane's excitement as he runs towards the mound?

Camera on Biggio...camera on Bagwell...what the fuck is so hard?

Reminds me of when Tampa Bay won the Cup in '04, and it took forever to get a shot of Andreychuk celebrating.

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:24 PM

Great series, Cards. :)

Tasan

10-19-2005, 10:25 PM

Dang forgot to turn on the radio to catch Milo Hamilton's call of the last out.

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:26 PM

Where is my John Wayne
Where is my Prairie Song
Where is my happy ending
Where has Jimmy Edmonds gone

And Larry Walker, as I alluded to in a earlier post, he's key and he did nothing.

On another note, I hope the Brewers win 120 games next year and the Cards win the Wild Card and the Cards take them out, then maybe Selig will do something about Wildcards. They should not get 2 games at home in the first round.

119 days til spring training!

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:26 PM

Dude, Mizzou, Card4ever, etc...ya'll have been a classy bunch. I hope we meet again next year in the NLCS...

RPI-Fan

10-19-2005, 10:27 PM

ASTROS RULE CARDINALS DROOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WSUCougar

10-19-2005, 10:28 PM

Great series, Cards. :)
Congrats to the 'Stros. You earned it. Now go beat those AL bastards! :cool:

st.cronin

10-19-2005, 10:28 PM

Go crazy, Astros fans. You've earned this.

RPI-Fan

10-19-2005, 10:28 PM

Dude, Mizzou, Card4ever, etc...ya'll have been a classy bunch. I hope we meet again next year in the NLCS...

How is calling Berkman's homerun a "pussy shot" or somesuch "classy"? They've been taking uncalled for shots at the Astros through the whole series.

Tasan

10-19-2005, 10:29 PM

And Larry Walker, as I alluded to in a earlier post, he's key and he did nothing.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

119 days til spring training!
Thought I'd translate there for everyone.

MikeVic

10-19-2005, 10:29 PM

Woo I love this World Series matchup.

Buccaneer

10-19-2005, 10:29 PM

Would you believe that this is the first time since the year I was born that both teams playing in the World Series have never been in the Series in my lifetime!

Congrats to the Astros, it's a great story to have Biggio and Bagwell finally playing in the WS, as well as seeing Clemens and Petitte back in (and not being in a Yankees uniform).

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:30 PM

hahaha finally we are on the winning side of things. I have to admit when we were 15-30 I almost gave up. We need to win the World Series so Clemens can retire on top.

JeeberD

10-19-2005, 10:30 PM

Congrats to the 'Stros. You earned it. Now go beat those AL bastards! :cool:

Don't know how I forgot you, bud.

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:31 PM

Cardinal fans are so bitter when things just don't go their way.

The call wasn't the difference in the game or the series, it was wrong no doubt about it though. I think you are being unfair with your comment, I'm sure if the roles were reversed there would be some upset Stro fans just as their are upset Cardinal fans.

WSUCougar

10-19-2005, 10:31 PM

Don't know how I forgot you, bud.
No worries, my friend. Your team's going to the Series. Revel in the moment!

kingfc22

10-19-2005, 10:31 PM

Would you believe that this is the first time since the year I was born that both teams playing in the World Series have never been in the Series in my lifetime!
I think there are a lot of people that can say that.

Buccaneer

10-19-2005, 10:31 PM

Congrats to the 'Stros. You earned it. Now go beat those AL bastards! :cool:
Yep, it's bad for baseball whenever an AL team wins. :)

RPI-Fan

10-19-2005, 10:32 PM

The call wasn't the difference in the game or the series, it was wrong no doubt about it though. I think you are being unfair with your comment, I'm sure if the roles were reversed there would be some upset Stro fans just as their are upset Cardinal fans.

Ok, so when are you going to admit that Oswalt has been the best pitcher in the playoffs despite getting jobbed on the strikezone (which has a bigger effect than ONE debatable missed call)?

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:32 PM

Thought I'd translate there for everyone.

I've never been a fan of the wildcard.

WSUCougar

10-19-2005, 10:33 PM

Ok, so when are you going to admit that Oswalt has been the best pitcher in the playoffs despite getting jobbed on the strikezone (which has a bigger effect than ONE debatable missed call)?
Oswalt was the difference-maker, no doubt.

And that call was not even debatable, no doubt. But no sour grapes on my end. As I said, your team earned the pennant. Go get 'em.

GoldenEagle

10-19-2005, 10:33 PM

I think RPI-Fan is 11 or 12. He has really been showing his maturity in this thread.

Buccaneer

10-19-2005, 10:33 PM

I think there are a lot of people that can say that.
You are forgetting how many WS there have been in my lifetime (I have caught at least part of 39 of them).

WSUCougar

10-19-2005, 10:34 PM

You are forgetting how many WS there have been in my lifetime (I have caught at least part of 39 of them).
Damn, you're old...

...and I'm right behind ya... :o

RPI-Fan

10-19-2005, 10:35 PM

Oswalt was the difference-maker, no doubt.

And that call was not even debatable, no doubt. But no sour grapes on my end. As I said, your team earned the pennant. Go get 'em.

Thanks. You were the only dignified Cards fan in this thread (when I've read it).

Two or three other guys have just been taking cheap shots at us the whole way.

Crapshoot

10-19-2005, 10:36 PM

Congrats to the Astros - here's hoping they can make AJ a miserable miserable man.

Oswalt has been one of the 5 best pitchers in baseball over the last 3-4 years, and its good to know he's going to get the attention he deserves for it.

Buccaneer

10-19-2005, 10:36 PM

You know, Coug, there's probably a game of some sort in that.

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:37 PM

Ok, so when are you going to admit that Oswalt has been the best pitcher in the playoffs despite getting jobbed on the strikezone (which has a bigger effect than ONE debatable missed call)?

You are cheering for the Astro's and you are complaining? I don't get it. Houston won, they were able to shut down the Cardinal offense, they let Pujols get his and shut everyone else down, no if ands or buts about it. What was that stat, Houston hitting .270 and STL hitting .223, and the back part of the Houston lineup produced, and the hitters around Pujols did nothing. Without Pujols miracle shot, that series was over in 5 games. As I said, 119 days til Spring Training.

RPI-Fan

10-19-2005, 10:37 PM

You are cheering for the Astro's and you are complaining? I don't get it. Houston won, they were able to shut down the Cardinal offense, they let Pujols get his and shut everyone else down, no if ands or buts about it. What was that stat, Houston hitting .270 and STL hitting .223, and the back part of the Houston lineup produced, and the hitters around Pujols did nothing. Without Pujols miracle shot, that series was over in 5 games. As I said, 119 days til Spring Training.

Almost as bad as whining after everything is said and done and you've lost.

GoldenEagle

10-19-2005, 10:39 PM

Almost as bad as whining after everything is said and done and you've lost.
Have you looked in the mirror? Your whining has gone on and on. You just can not shut up about the strikezone. The Astros got the breaks in the series. Yet you still whine on and on about a strikezone.

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:39 PM

Almost as bad as whining after everything is said and done and you've lost.

I was just saying how the Stro's beat the Cards, how is that whining? :confused: Jeeber, am I whining?

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:43 PM

The call wasn't the difference in the game or the series, it was wrong no doubt about it though. I think you are being unfair with your comment, I'm sure if the roles were reversed there would be some upset Stro fans just as their are upset Cardinal fans.

I live with a Cardinal fan, and after seeing the way he and his dad act when things dont go their way, I have a right to make that statement.

GoldenEagle

10-19-2005, 10:44 PM

RPI-Fan is just an asshat who makes stuff up to show how immature he is. Do not let him bother you.

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:46 PM

I live with a Cardinal fan, and after seeing the way he and his dad act when things dont go their way, I have a right to make that statement.

I think most Cardinal fans realize why they lost, and it's not because of some call. Good teams find a way to not let a umpire beat them, the Cards didn't hit, the Stros shut them down, the Stros won, game set and match. Time for Stro fans to move on to the Series and Card fans to think about spring training.

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:47 PM

I am going to miss class on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday night to be at GE's apartment to catch the games on TV

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:47 PM

Are y'all catching Clemens on ESPN? They are trying to interview him and he keeps saying go talk to Roy, and Biggio and Bags... oh my goodness I want to cry for them!

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:48 PM

and Roy got MVP of the series, good for him

GoldenEagle

10-19-2005, 10:48 PM

Are y'all catching Clemens on ESPN? They are trying to interview him and he keeps saying go talk to Roy, and Biggio and Bags... oh my goodness I want to cry for them!
Why would they want to talk to Backe?

Cards4ever

10-19-2005, 10:48 PM

RPI-Fan is just an asshat who makes stuff up to show how immature he is. Do not let him bother you.

I don't think RPI is that bad, just trying to figure out how I'm whining.

Oh yeah, I'm proud to be a member of the Asshat, red wearing, Busch Stadium filling Cardinal fans!

LoneStarGirl

10-19-2005, 10:49 PM

I said Bags, not Backe :p

MizzouRah

10-20-2005, 08:27 AM

Dude, Mizzou, Card4ever, etc...ya'll have been a classy bunch. I hope we meet again next year in the NLCS...
Congrats to you Jeebs and Lonestargirl and the Astros... believe it or not I am happy for Biggio and Bagwell.

Tip of the cap to Oswalt too, wow he was on tonight.

MizzouRah

10-20-2005, 08:31 AM

How is calling Berkman's homerun a "pussy shot" or somesuch "classy"? They've been taking uncalled for shots at the Astros through the whole series.
Jeeber understands the rivalry and knows it's all a matter of standing behind your team, meaning when it's all over - it was all in the heat of battle.

You come and go as the series saw fit and honestly don't seem like much of a Houston fan to me. In fact, I think you have some issues with Cardinal fans and that's fine with me.

JeeberD

10-20-2005, 09:31 AM

Jeeber understands the rivalry and knows it's all a matter of standing behind your team, meaning when it's all over - it was all in the heat of battle.

Very true. Plus I guess I've been around folks from other teams where the trash talk get REALLY ugly. As intense as this series and rivalry has become I thought the Cards fans on the board acted with class.

Damn, my head hurts this morning...

MizzouRah

10-20-2005, 09:49 AM

Very true. Plus I guess I've been around folks from other teams where the trash talk get REALLY ugly. As intense as this series and rivalry has become I thought the Cards fans on the board acted with class.

Damn, my head hurts this morning...
:)

You need to get healthy for Saturday. ;)

JeeberD

10-20-2005, 01:40 PM

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9895/per5zq.jpg

:)

SackAttack

10-20-2005, 01:45 PM

They should not get 2 games at home in the first round.

Wait, what?

That's not the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, but you can see it from there.

Cards4ever

10-20-2005, 02:45 PM

Neuqua

10-20-2005, 04:27 PM

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9895/per5zq.jpg

:)

Boo

LoneStarGirl

10-20-2005, 05:14 PM

hahaha that is a beautiful poster. I would like to buy it and hang it in GE and my bed room :)

JonInMiddleGA

10-20-2005, 05:41 PM

Haven't you read Costas' book?

Heck, I haven't read the book but I knew about this.

LoneStarGirl

10-20-2005, 11:29 PM

Haven't you read Costas' book? It's a scenario he laid out. The road should be tougher for a wildcard, to play 162 games for a division title should mean something and in the first round where it's 3 out of 5, the WC should only get 1 game.

The title does mean something, it means you get to play the team with worst record in the playoffs, or if they are in your division, the second to worst. The Astros won numerous central division titles in the 90's and didn't even get past the first round. What goes around comes around.

Cards4ever

10-21-2005, 09:16 AM

The title does mean something, it means you get to play the team with worst record in the playoffs, or if they are in your division, the second to worst. The Astros won numerous central division titles in the 90's and didn't even get past the first round. What goes around comes around.

Good lord, do you take everything to be a attack on the Astros? I've had this stance since this system went into place. Don't even get me started on the All-Star game winner determining home field, though that works out decently this year, the Sox should have home field.

LoneStarGirl

10-21-2005, 01:48 PM

Woah, get a grip Cards4ever, I only mentioned the Astros because they are the only team I really follow so they are the only example i could come up with. Is that okay with you?

Cards4ever

10-21-2005, 02:44 PM

I've got a grip, but you spit out the Astros as the reason, because they failed in previous trips. I think you have this feeling that Cardinal fans are just destroyed because of the previous NLCS, I highly doubt that is the case, as the team that has won the most NL pennants, we feel we'll be back as strong as ever next year challenging for a title. I've long held the belief about WC's and how they should be treated, and that holds true whether it's the Cardinals or any other team winning the WC.

MizzouRah

10-21-2005, 02:46 PM

Hey, it's hockey season. Close this thread and you two hug.

Cards4ever

10-21-2005, 02:47 PM

Not until the WC system is changed! How old is Bud anyway?

SackAttack

10-21-2005, 02:56 PM

Haven't you read Costas' book? It's a scenario he laid out. The road should be tougher for a wildcard, to play 162 games for a division title should mean something and in the first round where it's 3 out of 5, the WC should only get 1 game.

I still think it's ridiculous. Look, if you're the #1 seed in the league, you should be capable of winning your three home games against the wild card - which is al you need to do to advance. If you're stacking the deck against the wild card team by giving them one home game, what are you admitting?

"The wild card team may be the better team, but we want to tilt the field towards a first round exit simply because they struggled in April and May."

Secondly, why do we have the wild card? So more teams stay in the playoff hunt and fan interest stays high even when the division title is out of reach. If you stack the deck against those teams, don't you run the risk of sabotaging the very interest you're trying to build?

You're reducing the income they can earn through the playoffs, and essentially telling the fans of the wild card team that they're second-class citizens, that they don't deserve to get two chances to watch their team in the playoffs before ticket prices go through the roof in the LCS and World Series.

It's a ridiculous idea. Yes, it's warm and fuzzy for teams like the Yankees and Braves and other perennial playoff teams that might reasonably expect a shot at playing the wild card in the first round, but it means absolutely fuck-all to the teams that are on the next tier down.

Cards4ever

10-21-2005, 03:24 PM

The reward should be higher for a team that wins it's division. Otherwise why have the divisions, just put all the teams in one league and go 1-4 and play a balanced schedule.

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree, I'm just not a huge fan of the WC, but there's also not enough teams to have 4 divisions in each league.

ISiddiqui

10-21-2005, 06:38 PM

You're reducing the income they can earn through the playoffs, and essentially telling the fans of the wild card team that they're second-class citizens, that they don't deserve to get two chances to watch their team in the playoffs before ticket prices go through the roof in the LCS and World Series.Well... yeah. They are. They didn't win their division, so I have no problem with stacking the deck against them. Frankly, I wouldn't be upset if ALL games in the DS were at the team playing the WC (which I think should be best team regardless if they are in the same division as the WC team).