NCAA Week 6

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discuss.

[Easy Mac]

I think for true insight, they need to listen to the In the Bleachers Podcast, a weekly college football show that discusses everything they care about, except for Kirk Herbstreit's eyes.

[Swaggs]

Va Tech just turned the ball over for only the second time this year. They are tied with Marshall 7-7.

[jbmagic]

i going to watch today arizona vs usc and oklahoma vs texas.


is california and ucla on tv today? i dont see it listed on tv here in los angeles

[cartman]

YES!!! Keith Jackson is calling the Red River Shootout. I was dreading having to listen to Brent Musburger.

[Swaggs]

Cal/UCLA is on TBS @ 7:30 PM EST

[jbmagic]

thanks swagg.

[cthomer5000]

Rutgers is getting ass-raped by WVU right now. 21-0 midway through the 2nd.

[cartman]

AAGH!!! Where did the video feed go from the Cotton Bowl?

[cthomer5000]

AAGH!!! Where did the video feed go from the Cotton Bowl?
Heh, dunno. Thats why i flipped back to Rutgers for a while though, and they are actually driving the ball well at the moment.

[Swaggs]

sonofabitch.

I'm getting BC-UVA instead of OU-Texas. :(

[Swaggs]

Heh, dunno. Thats why i flipped back to Rutgers for a while though, and they are actually driving the ball well at the moment.

This drive has lasted forever.

[cartman]

sonofabitch.

I'm getting BC-UVA instead of OU-Texas. :(

And I'm getting Minnesota-Michigan.

AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jbmagic]

techincal defficult for the texas vs oklahoma game.


they switch the game for now. i getting michigan vs minn until they fix it

[cartman]

TOUCHDOWN TEXAS!!!!

That was perfect timing to get the feed back.

:D

[cthomer5000]

Rutgers just finished off a great drive (14 playes, 80 yards) with FB Brian Leonard plowing his way into the endzone. Signs of life! 21-7 West Virginia now.

[timmynausea]

Rutgers did look good on that drive. The crowd is still into it, too.

[MrBug708]

That was the worst tackling since Tommie Frazier wasn't brought down back in 95

[sovereignstar]

Nice to see instant replay review being put to good use today in Mich-Minn game. :rolleyes:

[Swaggs]

WVU's big nose tackle is hurt and we are missing him now.

[cthomer5000]

Rutgers defense held West Virginia to a 45 yard field goal to open the second half (24-7). Rutgers responds with another very big drive, ending with another Briand Leonard 1 yard touchdown run... this one on 4th and goal from just inches out. 24-14. This isn't over yet, but they're going to need to start stopping WVU's offense cold or they're going to run out of time.

[cthomer5000]

3-and-out for West Virginia, but Rutgers is pinned way back at their 6. 2 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter.

[mckerney]

What, Maroney wasn't ruled down before the fumble? :rolleyes:

[cthomer5000]

Exchange of posessions in the Rutgers-WVU game. Rutgers about the get the ball back with 11 miinutes to go, still down 24-14.

They absolutely need a score on this drive.

[Buccaneer]

According to the scoreboard, Indiana scored 1 point in the 3rd qtr.

[SirFozzie]

Eagles missed their THIRD Field Goal, and are tied with Virginia, 7-7 at half/

[cthomer5000]

27-14, West Virginia leading Rutgers with just over 4 minutes to go. We're now in the "need a miracle" range.

[Swaggs]

I think I can understand the Schiano frustration now. Terrible playcalling on that last drive.

[cthomer5000]

Interception on a tipped ball by West Virginia, and now they'll just run out the clock. Rutgers just couldn't overcome the early mistakes, but played quite competitively. Syracuse next week is definitely a winnable game.

[timmynausea]

No miracle. Rutgers played well from the mid-way point of the second quarter on, but they made so many mistakes early on that it didn't matter.

[cthomer5000]

I think I can understand the Schiano frustration now. Terrible playcalling on that last drive.
Yeah, zero sense of urgency, although it could have a lot to do with the freshman QB being out there. He must just be checking down more than he should in such a situation.

[timmynausea]

I think Rutgers will destroy Syracuse.

[Swaggs]

Yeah, zero sense of urgency, although it could have a lot to do with the freshman QB being out there. He must just be checking down more than he should in such a situation.

But was that the time to play the freshman QB?

[cthomer5000]

But was that the time to play the freshman QB?
He'd been playing most the game, not just on that drive. Whether Teel should be playing is a whole other question.

[SirFozzie]

Yup, these ACC refs blow goats.

What a horrible set of calls.

Hope the guy gets suspended for the cheap shot (AFTER THE PLAY, on the injured knee) on Kiwanuka)

[Swaggs]

I'm pretty happy with that win. Playing on the road against a team that just beat Pitt and in-between games against Va Tech and Louisville, that could have been a let down game for WVU, but they did pretty well.

Being 5-1 is pretty solid, considering that we are breaking in new starters at every skill position except TE, and QBs had only played in one series prior to this season. We have beaten everyone we were expected to, lost the one we were supposed to lose (vs VT), and beat Maryland (which was sort of a toss-up). Next week, we get Louisville at home. After that game, we should be favored in all of our games from there on out and have a good shot at a 9-2 or 10-1 season.

[Swaggs]

Yup, these ACC refs blow goats.

What a horrible set of calls.

Hope the guy gets suspended for the cheap shot (AFTER THE PLAY, on the injured knee) on Kiwanuka)

BC better pick it up. They were my SGS Sure Thing of the Week. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

Yup, these ACC refs blow goats.

What a horrible set of calls.

Hope the guy gets suspended for the cheap shot (AFTER THE PLAY, on the injured knee) on Kiwanuka)
oh THAT non-call is FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!! i'm assuming he'll be suspended, i can't imagine the NCAA would not

*really steamed over here, HATES cheap-shots by anyone*

[Swaggs]

Looks like Northwestern is going to end Wisconsin's perfect season. They are up by 17 with 4 minutes left.

[st.cronin]

Looks like Northwestern is going to end Wisconsin's perfect season. They are up by 17 with 4 minutes left.

Make that 10 with 3:53. Nobody's playing any defense at all.

[Solecismic]

Just noticing on the play-by-play that the Michigan defense has been called for three 15-yard penalties in the first few minutes of the second half, probably costing them ten points. What are they doing, kicking the QB in the face after every play?

I wish ABC would use its feeds smarter. We have Indiana and Illinois on two different channels, BC and Virginia on two different channels, but no Michigan.

[SirFozzie]

14-14. BC with a nice drive. Now we need a stop.

[Swaggs]

I can't tell if the Big Ten is really balanced or just not that good.

I'm thinking Ohio State is probably one of the best four teams in the country and then they have a glut of very good teams.

[SirFozzie]

BLOCKED PUNT BY BC!

[SirFozzie]

Interesting call, the punter deliberately kicked the ball out of the endzone trying to get a safety, and since he did it on the field of play, they flagged him, and BC gets the ball at the 2.

[kingfc22]

That was a catch in the Wisconsin game. Poor miss call by the officials.

[Noop]

Seminoles win a real close game. I am now firm we will lose atleast two games this season.

[kingfc22]

Even the replay officials are blind, but I guess it doesn't matter since they just got a TD.

[SirFozzie]

Seminoles win a real close game. I am now firm we will lose atleast two games this season.

Noop, I hope you're right. Cuz we have to play VTech later this year and that'll be our second ACC loss.

[VPI97]

VT 41 - 14 over Marshall. Both of our co-starting running backs were out with Imoh missing the whole game with an ankle injury and Humes breaking his arm in the second quarter. Freshman Brenden Ore came in and had the best rushing performance of the season by racking up ~150 yards on ~20 carries. He will likely be the primary ball carrier for the remainder of the year.

[Swaggs]

VT 41 - 14 over Marshall. Both of our co-starting running backs were out with Imoh missing the whole game with an ankle injury and Humes breaking his arm in the second quarter. Freshman Brenden Ore came in and had the best rushing performance of the season by racking up ~150 yards on ~20 carries. He will likely be the primary ball carrier for the remainder of the year.

Ouch. Humes was impressive against WVU. Is he done for the year?

[SirFozzie]

Urgh.. I know Kiwanuka needed to get revenge for the cheap shot, but right after BC takes the lead is NOT the best time to give the jackass a forearm shiver to the helmet.

[VPI97]

Ouch. Humes was impressive against WVU. Is he done for the year?Haven't heard....I don't think it's too much of a loss, though. I like both Humes and Imoh, but they've been the weakest guys that we've had at running back since the mid 90's. Ore looks like a potential star.

[SirFozzie]

God.. these refs are awful yet again. That guy is a no-talent HACK.

[DaddyTorgo]

this Butler dude (#69 for VA) is a total cheapass. He ought to be ought of the game at this point and he's still standing around holding people and not getting called. Is he just invisible to the refs or something?!?!?

[kingfc22]

And Wisconsin goes down.

[SirFozzie]

BC recovers the fumble..

watch this be reversed..

[Swaggs]

Michigan and Wisconsin are going punch for punch through three quarters.

[mckerney]

Michigan and Minnesota are going punch for punch through three quarters.

Though the 4th quarter has been the problem for Minnesota the last few years against Michigan, let's hope they can keep it together this time.

[SirFozzie]

Yup.. it was reversed.

Good call :/

[WSUCougar]

According to the scoreboard, Indiana scored 1 point in the 3rd qtr.
Yeah, they kicked the extra point but missed the touchdown.

[Poli]

Canadian rules. Come on, Coug. :)

[SirFozzie]

The Rouge!

(actually, if you return a blocked kick or return a 2 point INT/FUMBLE, it's 1 or 2, right?)

[kingfc22]

Mike Hart is running very well on this drive. :)

[kingfc22]

Way to go Rivas. Way to go...

[Solecismic]

Way to go Rivas. Way to go...

Reminds me of the days when Michigan would pooch-punt from the 30 and go for it on any short fourth down. I have a bad feeling about this one. The Minnesota rushing attack is wearing them down the same way Wisconsin's did.

[sovereignstar]

What a horrible time for the backup QB to enter a game.

3rd and long now.

[VPI97]

ABC can't make up their mind. First we had the BC/UVA game, then the Texas/OU game. Now, it's the Mich/Minn game. I really don't give two craps abou the those two (no offense, Jim) but I really wanted to see BC/UVA.

[DaddyTorgo]

BC is up 21-17 with 10:19 remaining in the 4th and they have first down around the VA 33.

[Airhog]

YES!!! Keith Jackson is calling the Red River Shootout. I was dreading having to listen to Brent Musburger.


Wow I have something in common with you Texas fans, we all can agree that Brent Musburger Sucks!

[DaddyTorgo]

great catch by WR Kevin Challenger for 28 yards on third and 6...first down BC at the 2!

[Solecismic]

ABC can't make up their mind. First we had the BC/UVA game, then the Texas/OU game. Now, it's the Mich/Minn game. I really don't give two craps abou the those two (no offense, Jim) but I really wanted to see BC/UVA.

I'd trade you. Only natural to want your conference on. I was watching Northwestern/Wisconsin in the no-defense bowl.

[DaddyTorgo]

TD EAGLES!

[st.cronin]

Vince Young or Matt Leinart? I'd take Leinart, but it's getting closer. I'm very impressed with Young.

[VPI97]

Vince Young or Matt Leinart? I'd take Leinart, but it's getting closer. I'm very impressed with Young.Marcus Vick.

[st.cronin]

Marcus Vick.

ok but you also have to take Kobe Bryant

[Pumpy Tudors]

USC and Arizona are tied with a few seconds left in the first quarter. I know that doesn't mean much, but I (jokingly) picked Arizona to be the team to end USC's winning streak in a thread a few weeks back. :D

[sovereignstar]

Man, it's amazing how the last two games/breakdowns against Michigan have prepared me for moments like this. Serenity now..

[st.cronin]

USC and Arizona are tied with a few seconds left in the first quarter. I know that doesn't mean much, but I (jokingly) picked Arizona to be the team to end USC's winning streak in a thread a few weeks back. :D

Is USC on the ropes?

[SirFozzie]

God if BC wins this game, it will be in spite of the refs.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Is USC on the ropes?
Oh, yes! Arizona couldn't stop an infant from crawling through their defensive line, but they're TIED with USC!

Actually, no, even though the score is tied, this game was obviously decided before the teams even walked onto the field.

[SirFozzie]

BC HOLDS ON DOWNS!

What a huge play. 28-17 and BC with the ball

[DaddyTorgo]

God if BC wins this game, it will be in spite of the refs.
agreed Foz. this is ridiculous

[VPI97]

Oh wow (Minn/Mich)

[Schmidty]

Sweet!! Come on Minnesota! I love it!

[st.cronin]

Nothing like making 100,000 Michigan fans SHUT UP.

[sovereignstar]

Oh wow (Minn/Mich)

Yankee football can be fun to watch. :)

[sovereignstar]

If you didn't already know, the Gophers' placekickers is a RS freshman who has missed 5 extra points this season so far.

[mckerney]

I heart Gary Russell. :)

[Schmidty]

If you didn't already know, the Gophers' placekickers is a RS freshman who has missed 5 extra points this season so far.

So just get a TD.

[Solecismic]

Oh my. How would they not know it was going to be a rushing play? Well, so much for this season. I hate watching on the play-by-play.

[SirFozzie]

Time to run some clock here, nice to see a MA guy (Gonzales, from Framingham) doin really well.

[Schmidty]

Hell yeah!!!!!

Eat that Wolverines!!! :D

[DaddyTorgo]

NCAA oughta toss Butler for multiple games. That was after the whistle and it was a cheap shot!

[sovereignstar]

We've got the jug! We've got the jug!

[SirFozzie]

And Callendar with a HUGE RUN. :D

[VPI97]

They're gonna break that jug.

[Schmidty]

We've got the jug! We've got the jug!

At this moment, I actually like you. ;)

[DaddyTorgo]

ballgame Eagles. 28-17 over UVA.

[SirFozzie]

BC wins.

Heh..

BC's announcers just suggested handing a game ball to Butler for energizing the Eagles with his cheap shot.

[Solecismic]

Hell yeah!!!!!

Eat that Wolverines!!! :D

What a surprise. Mr. Class steps in to kick us when we're down again.

I have to wonder what in the hell is going on in Ann Arbor with all that talent on offense, and nothing to show for it. When will Carr go to Gutierrez? I suppose this season is completely lost now, but what can Henne learn at this point?

[Schmidty]

What a surprise. Mr. Class steps in to kick us when we're down again.

I don't treat my own father any better when it comes to U-M, so I doubt I'm going to treat anyone in cyberspace any better. Sorry.

Um, I like FOF though. :)

[Noop]

I suppose this season is completely lost now, but what can Henne learn at this point?
How to give a very good interview after the game. I mean he is getting alot of chances to face the face press after a lost.

[st.cronin]

I have to wonder what in the hell is going on in Ann Arbor with all that talent on offense, and nothing to show for it. When will Carr go to Gutierrez? I suppose this season is completely lost now, but what can Henne learn at this point?

I think the real issue is the O-line. I don't think they've played well at all.

[Solecismic]

I don't treat my own father any better when it comes to U-M, so I doubt I'm going to treat anyone in cyberspace any better. Sorry.

Um, I like FOF though. :)

You must be a real joy during the holiday season.

I'm still wondering what your dad did to deserve this? You mentioned a story about a tee-shirt, but that didn't seem enough on its own. There's a lot of hostility there. Maybe we can help you get through this?

As an aside, my senior year, I was the sports editor of the Michigan yearbook. For my picture in the yearbook, I chose to wear a Michigan State sweatshirt as a joke.

[Joe]

WOOT!!!!

[mckerney]

w00t!!!! indeed :)

[Joe]

I love jug

[Pumpy Tudors]

Arizona is still hanging with USC at halftime. USC is only up 14-7. The Trojans scored a touchdown with less than 2 minutes to go in the half. I am amazed by Arizona's defense so far. They're allowing some big runs (well, USC gets big runs on everybody), but they're hanging close on the scoreboard. Arizona's not going to win this game, but I'm stunned that they've even hung with USC for half a game in USC's building.

[VPI97]

Here's a clip of the cheap shot that the UVA lineman took at Kiwanuka

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/hoo_thug.mpg

Pretty bad...guy should be suspended for a while.

[Schmidty]

You must be a real joy during the holiday season.

I'm still wondering what your dad did to deserve this? You mentioned a story about a tee-shirt, but that didn't seem enough on its own. There's a lot of hostility there. Maybe we can help you get through this?

As an aside, my senior year, I was the sports editor of the Michigan yearbook. For my picture in the yearbook, I chose to wear a Michigan State sweatshirt as a joke.

My dad and I are best friends........just not when it comes to college sports. :)

[SirFozzie]

Here's a clip of the cheap shot that the UVA lineman took at Kiwanuka

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/hoo_thug.mpg

Pretty bad...guy should be suspended for a while.

What a a fucking thug.

If Groh has any sense of decency, he should preemptively announce Hunter's suspension, ABOVE AND BEYOND what the ACC/NCAA give him

[Ben E Lou]

Here's a clip of the cheap shot that the UVA lineman took at Kiwanuka

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/hoo_thug.mpg

Pretty bad...guy should be suspended for a while.Suspended nothing. He should be banned. Period. That's disgusting.

[sterlingice]

No love in this thread for the 12-3 KSU/KU game? :( ;)

SI

[Pumpy Tudors]

No love in this thread for the 12-3 KSU/KU game? :( ;)
I was about to watch it, but I couldn't tear myself away from Holy Cross and Lehigh.

[VPI97]

Arizona scores...USC lead down to 21-14.

[GoldenEagle]

Memphis-UCF kick off shortly. DeAngelo is going for his fourth straight 200+ yardage game. I know they are several Memphis fans on the board.

[VPI97]

Arizona scores...USC lead down to 21-14.USC scores...Arizona deficit up to 28-14.

[DaddyTorgo]

since this Kiwanuka and Cavaliers tackle Bill Butler were pushing and shoving all day, and earlier Butler blocked Kiwanuka in the back of the knees after the whistle, sending Kiwanuka to the sideline with an injured right ankle. was in the game recap that i just checked on CNNSI.com, I can't imagine the NCAA not having a serious look at the incident.

[VPI97]

USC scores...Arizona deficit up to 28-14.Arizona scores...USC lead down to 28-21.

[Cuckoo]

Arizona scores...USC lead down to 28-21.

I'm not watching this game, but USC losing to Arizona would make everything that has happened with OU this season almost bearable. :D

[Pumpy Tudors]

Wow, Arizona's hung in there for three quarters, even though USC has racked up tons of yardage. If Arizona somehow manages to stop USC twice in this quarter, they can last until the final whistle. This is amazing.

[MrBug708]

Pete Carroll is slowly learning that recruiting based purely on recruiting rankings isn't what you should be doing. Theb est players arent the right players

[Noop]

I'm not watching this game, but USC losing to Arizona would make everything that has happened with OU this season almost bearable. :D
LOL.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Arizona just can't stop Leinart and White today. I really didn't expect Arizona to be able to put up 21 points today, but their passing game has been pretty decent. The defense just can't handle USC, nor should they have been expected to.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, Arizona's done. They had a chance to get back to within a touchdown, couldn't convert, and now USC has the ball back. The Trojans will probably get a touchdown on this drive, raise their lead to 42-21, and then it'll really be over. Unless there's a turnover, there's not much more to see here. I'm going to play Space Rangers 2 now.

[Buccaneer]

Let me get this straight. Talking smack after a hated rival loses is considered classless? Is that new?

[sovereignstar]

Here's a clip of the cheap shot that the UVA lineman took at Kiwanuka

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/VPI97/hoo_thug.mpg

Pretty bad...guy should be suspended for a while.

Hmmm, the computer I'm on just can't play the file. My codec reader can't even render the thign. :confused:

[Ben E Lou]

Hmmm, the computer I'm on just can't play the file. My codec reader can't even render the thign. :confused:My browser wouldn't play it, either. I had to do a right-click, "Save As..."

[sovereignstar]

My browser wouldn't play it, either. I had to do a right-click, "Save As..."

Yeah, the thing is that I've tried doing both. I've heard that installing too many codecs can lead to problems. Probably downloaded a bunk one at some point I guess.

[Swaggs]

Two undefeateds, Texas Tech and Nebraska, are playing a good one on TBS.

[DaddyTorgo]

That is just wrong.

Is he still gonna be around next year? Maybe payback will be in order...
this is why i've always thought football teams needed an "enforcer." A guy to go out there and retaliate and just get the boot. I know roster spots are precious, but at least in college he wouldn't need a scholarship...just go out there and break an arm.

and yeah i know that's at odds with what i said earlier about not liking cheapshots of any kind...

[heybrad]

Pete Carroll is slowly learning that recruiting based purely on recruiting rankings isn't what you should be doing. Theb est players arent the right players
Are you on crack?

2 titles in a row and how many straight wins now? You're suggesting that Pete Carroll is going about it wrong?

[Swaggs]

Wow. Nebraska with an interception by a lineman who ran a few yards and then got hammered and fumbled it back away to Tech.

Under a minute left and Texas Tech has the ball on their 10.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

An awesome ending at Nebraska. 34-31 now with 12 seconds left. A good throw by Texas Techs QB as time winds down.

[Cuckoo]

Wow. Nebraska with an interception by a lineman who ran a few yards and then got hammered and fumbled it back away to Tech.

Under a minute left and Texas Tech has the ball on their 10.

Amazing. I know your instinct is to try to run with the ball, but that guy's gotta just fall down. If he does, the game's over and Nebraska wins. That has to hurt for the Cornhuskers.

[Swaggs]

Too bad for Nebraska. They were a nice story.

Texas Tech is the most over-rated ranked team in the country.

[bhlloy]

Pete Carroll is slowly learning that recruiting based purely on recruiting rankings isn't what you should be doing. Theb est players arent the right players

I'd love to hear your reasoning behind that comment.

For a start, the only monster recruiting class Carroll has was last year (pretty much a top 5-10 player at every position) and most of those guys aren't seeing any significant time yet because of the national championship calibre players ahead of them in the depth chart. Most of his highly ranked players are panning out quite nicely. Patrick Turner is a beast and was destroying people in camp but Smith and Jarrett are both excellent experienced recievers. JD Booty has looked very good relieving Leinart. Brian Cushing was looking good until he got injured. And even Mark Sanchez who is our third string QB could probably be starting on half the teams in the Pac 10 as a true freshman.

And... we are still unbeaten. It says something that you criticize after a 42-21 win, and no disrespect to Arizona but I doubt they would have put 21 up on our first choice defense. We are missing five starters on that unit.

If SC don't go undefeated (and I don't expect them to - the game against your UCLA team will be ridiculously close I expect) it certainly won't have anything to do with Carroll's recruiting.

[dawgfan]

Well, Arizona's done. They had a chance to get back to within a touchdown, couldn't convert, and now USC has the ball back. The Trojans will probably get a touchdown on this drive, raise their lead to 42-21, and then it'll really be over. Unless there's a turnover, there's not much more to see here. I'm going to play Space Rangers 2 now.

I think there's 2 major things at play here:

1. The Pac-10 is tougher up and down the conference than most are willing to give credit for, so Arizona hanging tough with them for 3 quarters shouldn't be a complete shock;
2. The Trojans are falling in to a psychological trap of realizing they don't need to play their best ball in the 1st half because they're so good that when they turn it on in the 2nd half they can still cruise to victory

Carroll is going to have to figure out a way to reach these guys about their slow starts - they might be able to get away with it against the rest of the Pac-10 and Notre Dame (though they should be careful with Cal and Notre Dame), but I don't think they can pull this off against a team like Texas and expect to recover in the 2nd half enough to come back.

All that said, I'm already mentally preparing myself for the major beat-down the Trojans are going to put on my Huskies in a couple of weeks...how the hell do you stop all that offensive firepower?

[miami_fan]

14-0 Cal

[Young Drachma]

I was at the Wyoming/TCU game today. The score is decieving, because Wyoming's defense was basically on the field for the whole game. I'd never seen a quarterback play worse than Corey Bramlet (Wyoming) played today. He had 7 turnovers, including one on the 2 yard line. He just made horrible decision after horrible decision. The coach gets lots of the blame for leaving him in the game that long.

But they should've easily won the game, because their other players were doing what they needed to and TCU hardly dominated.


Robert Henson returned a fumble 22 yards for a touchdown and TCU took advantage of a number of short-yardage situations in a 28-14 victory over Wyoming on Saturday.

Wyoming (4-2, 2-1) turned the ball over seven times - all by Corey Bramlet, who threw four interceptions and fumbled three times.

Brian Bonner intercepted Bramlet on just the third play of the game, giving the Horned Frogs (5-1, 3-0) the ball on the Cowboys 19-yard line and setting up Robert Merrill's 1-yard touchdown run. Chris Manfredini's kick was wide right, making it 6-0 with 11:26 left in the first quarter.

A short Wyoming punt gave TCU another short field, giving Manfredini a 32-yard field goal late in the first quarter. Three plays later, Quincy Butler intercepted Bramlet, setting up a 34-yard Manfredini field goal that made it 12-0 early in the second quarter.

Jovon Bouknight pulled the Cowboys within 12-7 on a 31-yard touchdown pass from Bramlet midway through the second quarter.

But Corey Rogers' 17-yard punt return gave TCU another short field, setting up Jeff Ballard's 13-yard touchdown pass to Aaron Brown for a 19-7 lead with 1:42 left in the half. Henson's touchdown came just 39 seconds later, but Manfredini missed the kick again, making it 25-7. Peter LoCoco kicked a 52-yard field goal as time expired to make it 28-7 at halftime.

Bouknight's second touchdown catch, an 11-yarder late in the third quarter, pulled Wyoming within 28-14. But three drives into TCU territory in the fourth quarter ended in Bramlet turnovers.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

14-0 Cal
14-6 now. :D

[Z²+]

Dave Wannstedt gets his first real victory, as Pitt rolls 38-20 over Cincinnatti, bringing home the trophy in the first annual "River City Rivalry."

[WSUCougar]

Stanford 24, Washington State 21

This is the point where, if I was playing TCY, I'd want to punch the monitor.

Ugh. Just ugh.

[miami_fan]

Dave Wannstedt gets his first real victory, as Pitt rolls 38-20 over Cincinnatti, bringing home the trophy in the first annual "River City Rivalry."

Just for your sake I will say this......Good Job Wanny :D

[miami_fan]

Vandy hanging tough with LSU 9-3 at halftime

To be fair LSU has turned the ball over 3 times and the field goal kicker has had issues

[kingfc22]

Got some good games going on right now.

[kingfc22]

Touchdown Cal. UCLA can not stop Desean Jackson.

[MrBigglesworth]

Penn State kicks a FG to take a 17-10 lead, they're playing great. Let's go state!

[miami_fan]

Colorado is killing Texas A&M 34-6. Looks like A&M won't be giving the Longhorns any competition this year

[Craptacular]

And Wisconsin goes down.
Not that they deserved to win, but an event in the 4th quarter illustrated why I can't even stand to watch Badger football anymore. My absolute biggest pet peeve in football is conservative playcalling and game management, which Alvarez is the king of. The Badgers were down by 10 with a little under eight minutes to go. Despite the fact that they had given up TOUCHDOWNS on FIVE consecutive Northwestern possessions (not to mention a long drive for a FG before that), they elected to punt from the Northwestern 46. I don't give it a shit that it was 4th and 11 ... it could have been 4th and 35. He gave up on his team right then and there. The situation really doesn't change whether or not you punt or go for the first and don't get it. You're going to have to stop the other team in three plays, or maybe give up one first down before you get the ball back. The expected 20-40 yard change in field position means very little at that point. Yeah, the punter did a nice job (which he has all year), but sure enough, Northwestern takes only 6 plays to go 97 yards for another TD. The Badgers got lucky (via a turnover and Northwestern's similar defensive incompetence) to have a chance at the end of the game, but that decision with 8:00 to go was good enough to seal the L.

[miami_fan]

Jones-Drew TD!
UCLA 28- Cal 27

[timmynausea]

Jones-Drew TD!
UCLA 28- Cal 27

This is turning out to be a good one. TBS.

[kingfc22]

Jones-Drew TD!
UCLA 28- Cal 27
Forsett busts another big gainer and Cal is back in the Red Zone.

[miami_fan]

Forsett busts another big gainer and Cal is back in the Red Zone.

This is really a good game

[kingfc22]

Marshawn Lynch is a STUD

[kingfc22]

Forsett busts another big gainer and Cal is back in the Red Zone.
Rinse.Dry.Repeat

[MrBigglesworth]

PSU still up 17-10 with 3 minutes left, OSU ball 1 and 15 on the five.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

I dont know what the big deal is about Ted Ginn. He looks average to me.
Its over now.

[kingfc22]

Penn St. = Top 10 team?

[sovereignstar]

I've had enough Big Ten Replay for a good half-dozen seasons.

[sovereignstar]

Penn St. = Top 10 team?

Yes.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

OSU is OVER RATED!!!!!

[pbot]

Thanks Tamba!

[MrBigglesworth]

Penn St. = Top 10 team?
If not now, then after they win in the big house next week :cool:

[kingfc22]

If not now, then after they win in the big house next week :cool:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif


Great call on the fake punt for UCLA.


Cal's special teams coach needs to be fired. They have been awful all season and will eventually lose them a game.

[HerRealName]

OSU is OVER RATED!!!!!

Only offensively :)

If only Tressel would allow someone, anyone, take over the offense...

[Swaggs]

Amazing that neither team scored in the second half. I keep wondering how deep into the season Ohio State can go w/ people still saying that they need to get the ball to Teddy Ginn.

[timmynausea]

PSU kicked a field goal early in the second half.

[timmynausea]

Oh man. UCLA just took the lead.

[miami_fan]

WOW TD UCLA

[Swaggs]

Lots of time left.

[kingfc22]

Another top 10 team goes down.

[timmynausea]

Interception. UCLA will hang on. 41-40.

[miami_fan]

So Karl Dorrell can win a big game

[Swaggs]

So, the undefeated teams remaining:

Florida State
Va Tech
Texas
Texas Tech
Penn State
USC
UCLA
Georgia
Alabama

I think Texas Tech is easily the worst among the remaining unbeatens. Interesting that there are no non-BCS conference teams that are still undefeated, after having two last season.

[kingfc22]

Cal should just let them score.

[cartman]

I wonder if it will finally be the end of the BCS if USC, Texas, Virginia Tech, Georgia, and Penn State all run the table. It would be great to watch the BCS commishes try and justify picking two of those teams and declare the winner of that game the national champion.

[timmynausea]

Aside from VT and Texas Tech that looks like a pretty old list. A lot of the traditionally good programs are back.

[larrymcg421]

OK, coaching thought. If your team is down by 1 and the opponent is in your red zone with 1:00 to play and you only have 2 timeouts. Why not fall down and let them score? I think you have a better chance saving that 50 seconds or so to go down and score a TD instead of hoping for what, a FG block with 5 seconds left?

[larrymcg421]

dola

king beat me to it

[kingfc22]

OK, coaching thought. If your team is down by 1 and the opponent is in your red zone with 1:00 to play and you only have 2 timeouts. Why not fall down and let them score? I think you have a better chance saving that 50 seconds or so to go down and score a TD instead of hoping for what, a FG block with 5 seconds left?
My thoughts exactly. Especially if you have an explosive offense like Cal.

[kingfc22]

Pathetic special teams and IMO poor coaching at the end by Tedford cost Cal the game.

[Swaggs]

So, is Craig Sager that tall or Maurice Drew that short? :)

[kingfc22]

Next game. ASU and Oregon are tied at 10.

[larrymcg421]

In fact, I think there were two coaching mistakes. After the INT, UCLA should not have been doing handoffs. At that point they should have just kneeled down. With that field position they were pretty much guaranteed of a win. No need to risk it with running plays, a la Baylor-UNLV.

[kingfc22]

In fact, I think there were two coaching mistakes. After the INT, UCLA should not have been doing handoffs. At that point they should have just kneeled down. With that field position they were pretty much guaranteed of a win. No need to risk it with running plays, a la Baylor-UNLV.
Good point. Also, I just realized that I picked Cal +1.5 and that late TD cost me a correct pick in the yahoo college pick 'em.http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif

[bronconick]

Especially if USC is shut out of it!

Could you imagine VT & Georgia playing in the Rose Bowl for it all, while USC and Texas play in the Sugar, or something to that effect?
The BCS formula is set up to pretty much guarantee the top team in the polls gets in, now. At least it was last year. It probably changed again.

[Swaggs]

With the Big 12 kind of down, I wonder if Texas could get leap-frogged by a team like Va Tech or Georgia?

[ISiddiqui]

I think if Virginia Tech rolls over Miami and Florida State (in the ACC Title Game), they easily can jump Texas.

[Swaggs]

I think if Virginia Tech rolls over Miami and Florida State (in the ACC Title Game), they easily can jump Texas.

That's what I was thinking...either Tech, or Georgia getting some points for beating Alabama. Looks like Oklahoma, even in a down year where they lose to Texas, could still end up screwing them by not being ranked when they finally beat them.

[miami_fan]

I think if Virginia Tech rolls over Miami and Florida State (in the ACC Title Game), they easily can jump Texas.

Blasphemy! :D But seriously you could also include beating Boston College in that as well

[Wolfpack]

God if BC wins this game, it will be in spite of the refs.

I'm coming onto the thread way-late, but...get used to it. You're now officially a member of the ACC once you get screwed by the crap officiating in this league. (There's a reason the Utah coach got fined for complaining about the officiating in the UNC-Utah game last week...it was an ACC crew.)

Oh, and if you think this is bad, wait until basketball season and you have to play Dook or UNC (especially on the road). It's pretty much a given it'll be 5-on-8 in those games.

[MacroGuru]

Not that anyone really cares....BYU just pulled the win out at New Mexico.....

[Airhog]

I wonder if it will finally be the end of the BCS if USC, Texas, Virginia Tech, Georgia, and Penn State all run the table. It would be great to watch the BCS commishes try and justify picking two of those teams and declare the winner of that game the national champion.


:D this gets said every year. I wish it would finally happen though, but the odds are definately against it happening. But it would be nice if say even 4 teams were undefeated at the end of the season. Of course, I don't think it will change anything, they will just think up some new way to tweak the system.

[Kodos]

Great day. Indiana, Penn State, and FSU all win. :)

[kingfc22]

Sam Keller looks a lot like David Carr. A QB who is always picking himself off the turf after every play.

[Solecismic]

Interesting statistic for today: 35 Division I-A teams entered the day with only one loss. Four did not play. Of the remaining 31, they went only 16-15.

There are still nine unbeaten I-A teams, all from major conferences. Virginia Tech, Florida State, Penn State, Texas, Texas Tech, USC, UCLA, Georgia and Alabama.

Virginia Tech does not play Florida State this year. Neither do Georgia and Alabama. USC and UCLA play on December 3, the same date as the ACC championship game and the SEC championship game.

Wouldn't it be absolutely fantastic if all six teams went into December unbeaten? Throw in an unbeaten Texas or Penn State and the national championship would be beyond meaningless.

One-loss teams from minor conferences include: UTEP, TCU, Fresno State and Toledo. If you want to include the Big East (I'd call it a "'tweener" now), add Louisville, Connecticut and West Virginia.

Indiana and Baylor still only have one loss.

[kingfc22]

Hopefully this is the year the BCS goes down and a playoff system is instituted.

[Noop]

That would be great...

[timmynausea]

Brian Leonard was impressed with West Virginia.

“They were tough,’’ Leonard said. “This is honestly the worst I’ve ever felt after a game. I need to get to the trainer’s room. They’re the hardest-hitting team I’ve ever faced. You can see all the bruises and the black eye.’’
“They were fair,’’ he said. “They didn’t give me any cheap shots.’’
“They’re a very strong, physical team,’’ Leonard said. “They’re the best tackling team we’ve played so far.’’

[cartman]

I think if Virginia Tech rolls over Miami and Florida State (in the ACC Title Game), they easily can jump Texas.

It's stuff like this that makes a playoff so inviting. Last season, it was regarded that Auburn missed out on a slot in the BCS Championship game, due to their low strength of schedule in their non-conference games. Nevermind that they still won all of their conference games, including the conference championship game.

Now people will make the argument that if Virginia Tech wins all of their conference games, they should leapfrog Texas, even though Texas played and won the toughest non-conference game of the year, because the Big 12 was weaker than the ACC.

This is exactly why we need to have Div. 1A have a playoff system, the way that every other NCAA Division from IAA on down has.

[bronconick]

Well, three undefeated teams didn't kill the BCS. So it would have to be 4 or 5 major undefeated teams. Of course, if USC had only beaten Oklahoma 24-21, things would have been much more interesting.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

A great classic game at Pasadena. Too bad the rest of the country thinks the Pac 10 is still a mid major conference.

[digamma]

A great classic game at Pasadena. Too bad the rest of the country thinks the Pac 10 is still a mid major conference.
Maurice Drew is a stud. UCLA was outplayed for 3.5 quarters, except for the play of Drew. He's a game changer, maybe the second best in college football (and also the second best in L.A.).

[ISiddiqui]

Brian Leonard was impressed with West Virginia.

“They were tough,’’ Leonard said. “This is honestly the worst I’ve ever felt after a game. I need to get to the trainer’s room. They’re the hardest-hitting team I’ve ever faced. You can see all the bruises and the black eye.’’
“They were fair,’’ he said. “They didn’t give me any cheap shots.’’
“They’re a very strong, physical team,’’ Leonard said. “They’re the best tackling team we’ve played so far.’’How fun is next week's Louisville v. West Virginia game going to be? :D

It may be a better game than USC v. Notre Dame.

[MrBug708]

Maurice Drew is a stud. UCLA was outplayed for 3.5 quarters, except for the play of Drew. He's a game changer, maybe the second best in college football (and also the second best in L.A.).

I'd take Lendale White over Reggie Bush any day of the week.

[digamma]

I'd take Lendale White over Reggie Bush any day of the week.
As a starting running back, I agree. But White isn't the game changer that Bush is.

[MrBug708]

No he's not. But then again, why is Drew much more successful then Bush is? Drew's been doing it longer then Bush has been doing. He's less then 600 yards from being UCLA's all time career leader in total yardage

[bhlloy]

Yup, I would take LenDale in a heartbeat over Reggie as a pure halfback, especially in the NFL. The USC offense works much better with LenDale getting the majority of carries and Bush as more of a receiving threat, but for whatever reason that isn't the gameplan this year.

I haven't seen Drew play so I can't comment on him. Ironically though he nearly ran me over in one of the parking structures at UCLA last summer when I was there for a women's soccer tournament. I didn't have a clue who he was at the time but his numberplate was personalised and I looked it up when I got home. If I had known who it was I might have asked for an autograph :)