NCAA Week 7 Discussion

[Huckleberry]

At this point it appears that if USC and Texas win this weekend, the first BCS will be:

1. Southern Cal
2. Virginia Tech
3. Texas

and the debate will begin. Of course, if all three won out for the rest of the year, Texas would probably be #2 at the end as other undefeateds lose, narrowing the computer gap Va Tech enjoys over Texas right now.

Anyway, here are some Top 25 point spreads -

#1 Southern Cal (-11.5) at #9 Notre Dame
#24 Colorado (+15.5) at #2 Texas
#4 Florida State (-6.5) at Virginia
#5 Georgia (-15) at Vanderbilt
#6 Alabama (-12.5) at Ole Miss
#7 Miami (-40.5) at Temple
#8 Penn State (-3) at Michigan
#11 Florida (+6) at #10 LSU
#12 UCLA (-6.5) at Washington State
Kansas State (+13.5) at #13 Texas Tech
Wake Forest (+15) at #14 Boston College
#16 Michigan State (+6.5) at #15 Ohio State
Oregon State (+16) at #18 California
#19 Louisville (-7) at West Virginia
Washington (+15) at #20 Oregon
#21 Auburn (-7.5) at Arkansas
#23 Wisconsin (OFF) at #22 Minnesota
Army (+23.5) at #25 TCU

[duckman]

Don't ask me why, but TBS is televising the Oklahoma-Kansas game. :confused:

[miami_fan]

#1 Southern Cal (-11.5) at #9 Notre Dame


Not a gambler but this seems rather high

[Huckleberry]

duckman -

Should be a close game. ;)

I think it may have been a preseason agreement to televise it. Isn't it at Arrowhead? Maybe Kansas only agreed to play it there if it were going to be televised.

As for the USC/ND spread, I tend to agree, but I really don't know how Notre Dame will be able to stop the Trojans all game long. I think they'll find a way to score some. I also only got those spreads off one site. Others may have opened differently.

[bhlloy]

USC-ND does seem a tad high, although I don't personally feel this will be the Trojans toughest game.

On the other hand UCLA-WSU seems too low. Obviously the odds makers aren't sold on the Bruins yet. Swap the two lines around, looks about right to me.

Also the Miami line makes me laugh. Is there really any point in playing the game if even the experts are predicting that as conservative? :)

[Wolfpack]

That Wake-BC line is awfully steep considering both teams are run-oriented. Wake gave FSU fits in Tallahassee until the late binge in the fourth quarter sealed the game. I don't think BC has the same kind of "light it up" ability. Wake will keep it close (they always do), but BC should win. I just don't think it'll be by 15 points.

[st.cronin]

That Texas Tech line seems crazy to me. I would've thought it would be 6 or 7 points.

[Huckleberry]

Kansas State seems to be pretty bad this year and Tech is considerably tougher in Lubbock historically. Not many know it, but Lubbock's elevation is 3200+ feet. I think that contributes somewhat to their success there, it's just never mentioned.

[Cuckoo]

Kansas State seems to be pretty bad this year and Tech is considerably tougher in Lubbock historically.


Yep. I don't think TT is near as good as their ranking, but Kansas State is worse. Tech should cover that spread, based on what I've seen of both.

[MrBug708]

The spread is kind of low vs WSU, but UCLA is like 2-7 in its last 9 games vs WSU. Plus Pullman is not a fun place to be between September and April. ;)

[TroyF]

I'd stay far, far away from the USC game. I think that could go either way.

The CU 15.5 underdog against Texas is interesting. I really don't see any possible way CU can keep that game close. CU is a MUCH better team than people have given them credit for being and the defense is actually pretty darned good. But good enoug to beat Texas on the road? No chance. I'd take Texas if the spread were 20 in this one.

This will likely be the first of 2 meetings with Texas this year. CU should handle the North pretty easily and is already 2-0 against the South.

[SFL Cat]

I'm thinking Texas is ripe for an upset.

[digamma]

Not a gambler but this seems rather high
It's interesting because you have two of the larger fan bases in the country in terms of betting lines. Notre Dame lines typically skew a point or two towards the other team because they need to balance the wagering of the myopic ND bettors. However, the last three years the same could be said for USC--people love to bet high scoring, winning teams.

[sooner333]

Colorado line up to 18, I really like the Buffs here, the OU/Texas game historically has had some letdowns the following week against the spread. Colorado is a decent team, they lost at Miami pretty handily, but Miami is a better team than people think this year, as people tend to think they are the third best in the ACC. I think they are just as good as FSU and probably better than Va Tech. Colorado can keep it close for awhile and closer than 17 for the whole thing.

As for Texas Tech, Kansas State is a paper tiger...Texas Tech will be able to get up over two TD's and keep the lead in Lubbock.

[sooner333]

I'm thinking Texas is ripe for an upset.

Good point, not sure if it will happen this week, but very great opportunity if were at Colorado. We've seen Texas have a business-as-usual mentaility after an OU loss...taking Mack's lead on his "it's just another game for us" mentality. But, you know they are really enjoying this win, and since 2000 they haven't had to react to beating OU. They just reached a huge goal, one that had a BCS bid and a Big 12 Champ game appearance since last time they accomplished it. Will they be able to maintain focus?

[digamma]

At this point it appears that if USC and Texas win this weekend, the first BCS will be:

1. Southern Cal
2. Virginia Tech
3. Texas

and the debate will begin. Of course, if all three won out for the rest of the year, Texas would probably be #2 at the end as other undefeateds lose, narrowing the computer gap Va Tech enjoys over Texas right now.


I'm sure some people have seen the Brad Edwards piece on ESPN.com (of course, it's an insider article), but he presents an interesting scenario that could make December 3 the greatest day in college football history (I don't think that's an understatement).

Imagine:
Noon eastern (ABC): Big 12 Championship Game: Texas (or Texas Tech) (11-0) vs. North Survivor (not 11-0)
3:30 eastern (ABC): Southern California (11-0) vs. UCLA (11-0)
8:00 eastern (ABC): ACC Championship Game: Virginia Tech (11-0) vs. Florida State (11-0)
8:00 eastern (CBS): SEC Championship Game: Alabama (11-0) vs. Georgia (11-0)

Meanwhile, Penn State sits in Happy Valley pulling for natural disasters to wipe out most of the undefeated teams.

On Sunday December 4, you are left with potentially five unbeaten teams and a BCS mess.

Of course, we always get this talk in October--hand-waving freakoutery at its best--and teams usually fall by the wayside. This year, I think we've got another good shot to have 3 unbeaten teams, but I wouldn't be surprised if on December 4, there is only 1 unbeaten left and the controversy is over which one loss team gets into the Rose Bowl.

[Huckleberry]

I was wrong, I now show that Texas is currently #2 in the unofficial BCS standings. Virginia Tech is off this week and Texas plays a ranked team. If Texas wins by a reasonable amount, i.e. doesn't stink up the place, they will be #2 next week. At least I think.

Week 6 BCS PDF (www.hornfans.com/recruiting/huckleberry/2005bcsWk6.pdf)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Not a gambler but this seems rather high I wouldn't want anything to do with this game... both teams have high-powered offenses, ND's defense is suspect and Southern Cal's been iffy the last couple of weeks. I would not be surprised if ND won, nor would I be surprised if we lost by three touchdowns.

[WSUCougar]

Looks like lots of trap games this week.

The spread is kind of low vs WSU, but UCLA is like 2-7 in its last 9 games vs WSU. Plus Pullman is not a fun place to be between September and April. ;)
Our defense is in tatters due to injuries, and our confidence is all shot to hell after losing in consecutive weeks to Oregon State and Stanford. Our QB throws too many INTs, and our WRs are banged up. Our FG kicking is suspect.

That's why we'll probably win this one. :D

Actually, should at least be an interesting RB duel between Drew and Harrison.

[Huckleberry]

Looks like lots of trap games this week.
Yep, 6 Top 10 teams on the road. The only 3 with home games are facing ranked teams.

[moriarty]

On the other hand UCLA-WSU seems too low. Obviously the odds makers aren't sold on the Bruins yet. Swap the two lines around, looks about right to me.


I didn't think UCLA looked particularly impressive against Cal last week at home. They basically won the game on 3 big special team plays (2 long punts returns + 1 faked punt) ... and while they have some skills I think it was more due to Cal's crappy special teams.

I haven't seen WSU play yet though.

[Ksyrup]

Not only did they not look all that great against Cal, but they barely beat Washington. Those are the only two UCLA games I've seen parts of. They did a nice job of putting away a down OU team, and played two cupcakes, in the other three games. They still have something to prove.

[WSUCougar]

Prediction:

WSU comes out fired up, pissed off, and needing to show some pride in front of the Pullman faithful. Perhaps Harrison busts a big run, or Brink hits someone on a long bomb. UCLA is back on their heels for a bit, and gets down early. Maybe it's 14-3 or 21-10 at halftime in favor of the Cougars.

But in the second half we wear down. We give up the inevitable Big Turnover, and our thin defensive depth gets exploited. The Bruins win a high-scoring affair. I'll say 41-35.

[cartman]

bump for today

[JonInMiddleGA]

Little random football news ...
http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_10_14/wolverinesout.asp

Wolverines Out, Spartans In At WJR/Detroit
In a move that surprised many in the Motor City, ABC Radio News/Talker WJR has opted out of its deal to carry University of Michigan football and basketball next season. Instead, WJR inked a new five-year deal with rival Michigan State. The move leaves the Ann Arbor, MI-based institution searching for a new radio home for the first time since 1976, when WJR began airing Wolverines sports coverage.

[timmynausea]

That is interesting. If you really think about it, though, most U of M football games are on ABC and they are nowhere near as good as MSU at basketball, so it actually makes sense.

[cody8200]

Indiana is going to have a good showing against Iowa today...if we win this one. We have nearly locked a bowl for the first time in 12 years.

[Noop]

Let's Go Noles

[timmynausea]

I'm watching Rutgers for the third week in a row. Ito just nailed a 51 yard field goal. They lead Syracuse 3-0.

[GrantDawg]

OSU is having some trouble holding on to the ball. 10-0 MSU.

[Galaxy]

What's with Ohio State? They are not going to win handing the ball over. Go Spartans!

[timmynausea]

Wake Forest is beating BC 10-0.

[GrantDawg]

What's with Ohio State? They are not going to win handing the ball over. Go Spartans!
Of course 52 yard Touchdown passes will help keep you in the game. 10-7.

[cartman]

Where is the Texas Tech offense today? 5 minutes to go until halftime, and all they have is 3 points.

[timmynausea]

BC just failed to convert on a 4th down attempt. They're down 17-0 to Wake Forest.

[Easy Mac]

Someone needs to wake up Alabama. They're down 7-3 to Ole Miss... maybe looking ahead to Tennessee?

[Schmidty]

Of course 52 yard Touchdown passes will help keep you in the game. 10-7.

17-7, baby!!!

Come on Spartans, we got this game if we don't turn the ball over!!!

[Joe]

10-10 Gophers/Badgers at the half. I love seeing Cupito not playing.

[timmynausea]

Syracuse is so bad. Rutgers is up 17-0.

[sovereignstar]

Anyone see that Purdue-NW play? Pretty crazy call I think. WR catches the ball near the sideline, turns to the outside, and stretches the ball over the goal line. They reviewed it forever and ruled that he fumbled the ball before breaking the plane, making it a touchback as the ball roll out of the endzone .

The thing is the ball fell on the plane and it looked like it dropped straight down from his hands. I think it was a TD. Would be curious to hear any other thoughts on it.

[GreenMonster]

Drew Stanton is a stud.. Good pocket presence, strong arm, and makes pretty good decisions. So far so good for MSU.. Could Ohio State special teams look any worse..

[GreenMonster]

Syracuse is so bad. Rutgers is up 17-0.

Yes, when I saw my Connecticut team beat them down with our backup QB in, you know its hardtimes for the Cuse.. It will be in basketball also vs. Uconn.

[Joe]

ted ginn is awesome, lets give him the heisman right now!

[Schmidty]

Ohio State is making more mistakes than the Lions usually do. I didn't think that was possible, but it is.

[cartman]

ted ginn is awesome, lets give him the heisman right now!

I think you meant to post this in the "I'm drunk" thread.

[Joe]

OMG

[Schmidty]

Wow, huge play for the Buckeyes.

[cartman]

Where is the Texas Tech offense today? 5 minutes to go until halftime, and all they have is 3 points.

Well, Tech has a lot of yards, but not a lot of points. They lead 17-13 over K-State at halftime.

[Joe]

I think you meant to post this in the "I'm drunk" thread.

buckeye fans must be drunk all the time then.

[Joe]

haha great interview

[Honolulu_Blue]

I agree with Danielson. An absolute bone head move by the Sparties. They should have taken time to spike the ball and then kick it. It was like Keystone Cops out there on that field goal attempt.

[GreenMonster]

Wow, huge play for the Buckeyes.

Someone is getting fired.. Did you see how pissed he was before the play even happened..

[sovereignstar]

Laurence Maroney, sing me a song!!!!

[sovereignstar]

93-yard TD run.. Gophers up 17-10

[Joe]

wooooohooooo its MARONEY TIME.

give us the fucking bunyan axe!!!!

[timmynausea]

I love jug.

[Joe]

Jug was last week.

I love axe this week.

[Schmidty]

haha great interview

I missed it. What was it?

[Easy Mac]

Alright, quick answer needed, what should I do?

I can either
A: Sit here and watch Furman (my alma matter) play the Citadel in High Def for free in the nice, air conditioned house.
B: Drive 2 minutes to the Citadel Stadium and pay about $20 some odd to watch the game there in the 80 degree sun.

Which would you do

[Schmidty]

I agree with Danielson. An absolute bone head move by the Sparties. They should have taken time to spike the ball and then kick it. It was like Keystone Cops out there on that field goal attempt.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

[timmynausea]

I would do A.

[Joe]

I missed it. What was it?

Smith was bitching about the bad coaching

[Joe]

Alright, quick answer needed, what should I do?

I can either
A: Sit here and watch Furman (my alma matter) play the Citadel in High Def for free in the nice, air conditioned house.
B: Drive 2 minutes to the Citadel Stadium and pay about $20 some odd to watch the game there in the 80 degree sun.

Which would you do

Watch it at home and get drunk, then post in the "I'm Drunk" thread

[Schmidty]

Smith was bitching about the bad coaching

Haha! I love Smith.

[Joe]

Haha! I love Smith.


me too, it looked like he was foaming at the mouth

[Schmidty]

Poop.

[Joe]

wow ginn scored a td. is that his first one this season?

[Honolulu_Blue]

wow ginn scored a td. is that his first one this season?
Second.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Thank you Captain Obvious.
Perhaps Captain Obvious should be coaching Sparty...

[sovereignstar]

Gophers need to learn a thing or two about tackling and taking the right angles.

[Joe]

maroney needs to bust another 93 yarder

[cthomer5000]

Rutgers is just bitch-slapping Syracuse right now. Syracuse can't hold on to the ball.

[Joe]

ok, I'll settle for a Gary Russell TD

[cthomer5000]

25 yard fumble return for TD (Syracuse's 9th fumble of the game), Rutgers now leading 30-0 with an XP coming.

[Schmidty]

Never say die Spartans.

By the way, did Mustyberger just say that MSU was perhaps the best offense in the Big Ten? Way to go out on a limb there Brent.

[cartman]

That was a brutal hit the K-State QB just took.

[GreenMonster]

The Ohio State offense is awful.. They can't move the ball at all...

[NoMyths]

If Purdue doesn't fire Brock Spack after the season, it'll be ridiculous.

[Buccaneer]

25 yard fumble return for TD (Syracuse's 9th fumble of the game), Rutgers now leading 30-0 with an XP coming.
But the game is...indoors, right? Is the roof leaking or something?

[Noop]

Wow Syracuse is really stank'n up the joint but then again Rutgers isn't a bad team.

[Schmidty]

YES!!! Fumble recovery by the Spartans! Let's put this away!!

[Schmidty]

Damnit. If we had a kicker we'd be 5-0 and he might even cost us the game with that miss today.

[sovereignstar]

Wisconsin has got their work cut out for them. Down by 10 with 3:27 to go.

[Joe]

way to put it away, Sparty.

[Schmidty]

FUCK

[Joe]

way to cough it up

[Schmidty]

Game over and season over for the Spartans. I'm so sick of mediocrity. :mad:

[Galaxy]

What the hell? Stanton looked like he just tossed the ball away...

[mauchow]

Wisconsin scores in a hurry. Time for onside kick.

[Joe]

shouldve gone for it on 4th and 27 from the 1

[mauchow]

SO close on the onside. They actually touched the ball(kicked it to the 7 yard line after minnesota got a finger on it)!

3rd and 5, over a minute to go. BIG stop here!!!

[mauchow]

YES! 4th down!

Stocco gets a chance to choke as he did last week! 30 seconds to do it, from around mid-field or so(I'm guessing).

[mauchow]

BLOCKED {PUNT WISCNOSIN!!

TOUICHDOWN WISCONSIN ! ! HOLY SHIT!

[Galaxy]

WOW!!!

Wisconsin!

[TazFTW]

Holy shit!@

[VPI97]

Oh my.

[sovereignstar]

Saw this from a mile away. Freshmun punter...

[mauchow]

What a game by Maroney, but it no longer means anything! ROFFLE baby! ROFFLE!

[Karlifornia]

LOL@Minnesota

[mauchow]

We won(not quite yet! I'm calling it though) because we didn't have to rely on Stocco at the finish. Thank youuuuuu! WOooohooo!

[VPI97]

Oh my.

Minnesota imploded.

[TazFTW]

Another fumble.

[mauchow]

That's ball game! CHOKER MINNESOTA! Fumbles the kickoff return, BALL GAME!

[Karlifornia]

And a fumble on the kickoff to complete the meltdown. Wow they really blew it in every aspect there at the end.

[sovereignstar]

I'm so sick of mediocrity. :mad:

Tell me about it, soul brother.

[Galaxy]

Haha...I love the Badgers are taunting the fans with the ax.

[Joe]

fuckers

[Galaxy]

Alabama wins...

[st.cronin]

What a fucking win by the Badgers! I am drunk with joy!

[Galaxy]

Eh...Those green jerseys by Notre Dame aren't too pretty on the eyes.

[Joe]

basically this gophers meltdown took the place of the usual meltdown in the michigan game. i can dig it.

[stevew]

GREEN JERSEYS!

[Honolulu_Blue]

Game over and season over for the Spartans. I'm so sick of mediocrity. :mad:
Welcome to the season of shattered dreams, Sparty.

[cthomer5000]

Rutgers 31, Syracuse 9

Looking at the schedule, I think Rutgers can win 2 of the next 3 and clinch bowl eligibility...

[st.cronin]

I think Rutgers has an outside chance to win the Big East.

[Noop]

Well now is time for the Notre Dame v. USC game... should be interesting...

[cthomer5000]

I think Rutgers has an outside chance to win the Big East.
Nah, I don't see them catching West Virginia. And I just dont think the Knights are that good. I think they're low-tier bowl good, and id be happy with that.

[VPI97]

It appears ABC is showing an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies instead of college football.


Edit - My bad. It's the WVU game.

[SirFozzie]

wow, looks like BC will steal it but their defense was exposed without Kiwanuka.

Porter Benched lated, Ryan 7-9 134 and 2 TD's. Damn.

[cthomer5000]

It appears ABC is showing an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies instead of college football.


Edit - My bad. It's the WVU game.
zing! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[VPI97]

Heh...right out of the gate, Louisville runs a fake punt for a ~20 yard gain.

[SirFozzie]

And BC wins, 35-30. Wotta game/

[Noop]

If I may say Notre Dame is a bunch of cheaters for not cutting their grass. That shit is so high I can see it on my non HD television. I guess when your playing a team that much better then you you need to find something to even the score. And just as I type Quinn throws an int....

[Noop]

And the track meet begins... Bush for the TD

[Solecismic]

Whatta surprise - Henne misfires on third down and Michigan has to punt. Lucky to still be 0-0 right now.

Distracting to have the constant scroll of flood damage across the bottom of the screen. We're glad we're on relatively high ground here. We got more than three inches of rain last night for the second time in a week.

[cartman]

Vince Young is the man.

That is all.

[miami_fan]

14-0 LSU

If UF loses this game, how long before the gator fans start calling for Urban's head on a platter? :D j/k

[Honolulu_Blue]

Wow. Nice punt return for a TD by what looked like a TE for Notre Dame.

Check that. Apparently he's a strong safety.

[timmynausea]

WVU is lucky to only be down 10.

[timmynausea]

Make it 17-0.

[Raiders Army]

Go Michigan! Beat Penn State!

[JonInMiddleGA]

And somewhere far off the major college football radar ... Duke leads GT 10-7 at the half.

[Recoil]

And somewhere far off the major college football radar ... Duke leads GT 10-7 at the half.

Not off my radar. This is disgusting.

[Easy Mac]

I re-iterate my Reggie Ball sucks comments.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Touchdown Michigan! 10-0.

Well, our season is over, it's time to resume our role of the scrappy, underdog spoiler team!

[st.cronin]

Just a phenomenal day of college football so far. Easily the best saturday of the year to date.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Speaking of Easy Mac ... Furman & Citadel, 28-all headed to OT

[JonInMiddleGA]

Just a phenomenal day of college football so far. Easily the best saturday of the year to date.

Not here, although I watched a little of MSU-OSU & am keeping track of USC-ND, there's fewer games of interest to me this week than any I can recall in quite a while.

(GT sucks, UT is off, I'm reduced to hoping for Michigan, USC, LSU, and Vanderbilt to win games. That does not a great Saturday make).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ball 1 yd TD run, Tech up 14-10.

[Easy Mac]

A/C bill: $150
Cable: $50
Watching your alma mater come back from a 14 point deficit in the 4th quarter to win in triple overtime on a pass to the end zone and the opposing receiver was out of bounds against your rival: Priceless.

[miami_fan]

Hell of a play made by Penn State's QB

[Recoil]

Tech blows another scoring opportunity.

Jon, I thought you were a UGA fan?

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT still 14-10, failing to score on 1st-and-goal from the Duke 3.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Jon, I thought you were a UGA fan?

Good God
NO

[Easy Mac]

Speaking of Easy Mac ... Furman & Citadel, 28-all headed to OT
Don't worry John, I watched the whole thing in beautiful HD. Now its time to find some dinner.

[Recoil]

Good God
NO

Good man. THWG

Tech gets it right back. haha

[JonInMiddleGA]

Choice 1yd run, Tech 21-10

[Solecismic]

Michigan is 3-2 this season when tied or leading entering the fourth quarter (including the two MAC wins). Wonder how they'll blow it this week. Henne is just horrible out there, once again. And I've never been one to blindly support the backup quarterback.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT now 28-10 after an INT return for a score.

[Recoil]

Tech 35-10. Glad they decided to show up in the 2nd half.

[st.cronin]

Not that this should come as a surprise to anybody, but USC has the better cheerleading squad.

[miami_fan]

Michigan is 3-2 this season when tied or leading entering the fourth quarter (including the two MAC wins). Wonder how they'll blow it this week. Henne is just horrible out there, once again. And I've never been one to blindly support the backup quarterback.

I can't say I expected them to lose THIS way! Strange couple of plays right there

[Solecismic]

18 points in 4 minutes, thanks to Henne. The longer he holds the ball, the worse he does. I've never seen a shittier quarterback when he gets time. PUT IN GUTIERREZ NOW!

Edit: Gutierrez would have thrown for TWO touchdowns on that drive.

[Honolulu_Blue]

18 points in 4 minutes, thanks to Henne. The longer he holds the ball, the worse he does. I've never seen a shittier quarterback when he gets time. PUT IN GUTIERREZ NOW!

Edit: Gutierrez would have thrown for TWO touchdowns on that drive.
Damn straight he would've!

[Noop]

Jim last season when I said Matt was the better QB you basically said I don't know anything.... Interesting you are asking for him instead of the guy you were so in love with last season.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Ok. Garret Rivas isn't a horrible kicker. He's just a horribly inconsistent kicker. Though I guess that makes him a horrible kicker in the grand scheme of things.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Interception Michigan and a beauty!! Finally! A big play by the Michigan D. Let's go boys. Hold on.

[Solecismic]

Jim last season when I said Matt was the better QB you basically said I don't know anything.... Interesting you are asking for him instead of the guy you were so in love with last season.

That is utter bullshit Noop. Look it up. I know you've got some sort of bullshit grudge going on lately, but lying is taking it too far.

Chad Henne will be a first round pick whenever he decides to leave college. But I wonder what happens to Matt G. now that Henne is firmly the starter?


Michigan is very unimpressive and why the hell are they lying about Matt?

My response:

Lying? This sounds interesting. I suppose it's possible, he looked pretty solid holding for kicks today. What's the story?

Your response:

Matt is not hurt although they say he is....

That's all you had to say about Michigan quarterbacks last season. And Gutierrez was hurt, after all. Idiot.

[Noop]

That is utter bullshit Noop. Look it up. I know you've got some sort of bullshit grudge going on lately, but lying is taking it too far.





That's all you had to say about Michigan quarterbacks last season. And Gutierrez was hurt, after all. Idiot.
So now I am an idiot okay. Not lying at all mind you it was over a year ago(not an excuse but a fact) I made a mistake. I have no problem admitting that but what fuck jumped in your ass and fucked you? I don't have any grudge with you...loser.

[cthomer5000]

Huge run by the Penn State QB on 4th down there.

[Galaxy]

Enough children.....

Penn State is trying to pull it out.

[Galaxy]

Dumb miskate by Michigan.

[Galaxy]

TD Nittany Lions!

[cthomer5000]

Breaston with a great kick return out to near the 50 to make this interesting.

[Easy Mac]

a lot of exciting games right now

[miami_fan]

Last play UM-PSU

[cthomer5000]

Is Henne aware of the situation here?

[Galaxy]

Could be a "classic" finish....

[Joe]

OMG!11111

[Galaxy]

WOW

[Noop]

WOW Michgan wins...

[cthomer5000]

Poor old Joe Pa.

[Joe]

there's your Henne

[miami_fan]

UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE

[cthomer5000]

Techinically speaking, don't they have to kick the extra point here?

[Honolulu_Blue]

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MICHIGAN WINS!!!!

[Easy Mac]

Holy shit, Michigan player wide open!@!!!!!!

Michigan wins!

[Solecismic]

Okay, all is forgiven, Henne.

Hey, if someone is going to pull some bullshit fantasy out of thin air, I have to call him on it. No idea why he'd go off like that, but it has to be answered.

[Galaxy]

I had a feeling that would happen...

[Joe]

that loss probably hurts as bad as the minnesota loss

[miami_fan]

Could be a "classic" finish....

I think that qualifies

[Galaxy]

Techinically speaking, don't they have to kick the extra point here?

I don't believe so.....

[cthomer5000]

I don't believe so.....
In the NFL they do. Does it differ in College, or is it that simply no one cares because they stormed the field?

[Raiders Army]

Penn State loses!

[Joe]

Techinically speaking, don't they have to kick the extra point here?

dont think so if its the last play?

[DeToxRox]

Mario Manningham... Be prepared

#1 will be yours soon.

[Galaxy]

Florida-LSU could be another exciting finish..

[Joe]

time for another classic finish in the ND/SC game?

[cthomer5000]

dont think so if its the last play? That's what I'm asking. In the NFL, they do kick the XP even if the winning TD is scored with 0 on the clock.

Now my questions is: Is there a techinical difference in the NCAA? Or did the refs simply not care after the crowd stormed the field and everyone left?

[Solecismic]

Mario Manningham... Be prepared

#1 will be yours soon.

No kidding. That was one great performance from a freshman receiver. The first touchdown was an incredible play, and then the clutch catch at the buzzer.

[Galaxy]

time for another classic finish in the ND/SC game?

Keep your on Florida...A long shot, but we seen it happen.

[DeToxRox]

No kidding. That was one great performance from a freshman receiver. The first touchdown was an incredible play, and then the clutch catch at the buzzer.

Not just today, either.

Since Lloyd gave him PT he has delievered. He was a top recruit of ours going into the season and if he keeps this up, which I don't see why he won't, he'll be the next #1.

[st.cronin]

BRADY QUINN

[Joe]

That's what I'm asking. In the NFL, they do kick the XP even if the winning TD is scored with 0 on the clock.

Now my questions is: Is there a techinical difference in the NCAA? Or did the refs simply not care after the crowd stormed the field and everyone left?

Never noticed it before. Even if theres time left on the clock and the team ahead has the ball, they dont make them run a play most of the time (when its a dead ball even)

[Joe]

too much time left for the SC offense?

[DeToxRox]

SACK

[Noop]

I dislike Notre Dame but damn if Weis isn't starting to make me root for them.

[Galaxy]

LSU knocks off Florida...

LSU, Alabama and Auburn, should be a great battle for the SEC West.

[Noop]

Oh and I still dislike Notre Dame but I am a fan of Weis... great coach.

[Joe]

4th down, lets go leinart what do you got

[Galaxy]

HOLY SHIT

[DeToxRox]

Wow.

Just wow.

[miami_fan]

OMG!

[Joe]

GAH! what was that ND

[Honolulu_Blue]

HOLY SHIT!!!

What a play!!!!

Well, Mr. President, I think Leinart showed you what he's got.

[Noop]

Wow.

[Solecismic]

Never noticed it before. Even if theres time left on the clock and the team ahead has the ball, they dont make them run a play most of the time (when its a dead ball even)

Here's the rule: Section 8-3: If a touchdown is scored during a down in which time in the fourth period expires, the try is manditory unless the team behind in the score leaves the field of play.

Not quite the same as the NFL, but Paterno could have insisted on it because a block returned all the way is two points. Michigan would have just downed the ball rather than kick.

[miami_fan]

Spike the ball!

[Noop]

That is some bullshit. I bet Pete Carroll wishes he had instant replay.

[DeToxRox]

This is one of the best days of college football ever

[Noop]

USC wins BABY.

[DeToxRox]

LEINART! OVER!

[Joe]

fucking fuckers

[miami_fan]

That is a BALLSY call

[Recoil]

YESSSSS

[Noop]

That takes a huge pair to make that call...

[Solecismic]

Incredible. Three major games decided in the last few seconds, one after another.

[Joe]

HOLY SHIT!!!

What a play!!!!

Well, Mr. President, I think Leinart showed you what he's got.

yes he did

[Easy Mac]

I didn't understand why they would need to spike it, the clock was stopped. Weis just got outcoached.

[Joe]

I didn't understand why they would need to spike it, the clock was stopped. Weis just got outcoached.
the clock was about to start after the whistle blew

[vtbub]

I didn't understand why they would need to spike it, the clock was stopped. Weis just got outcoached.

Clock would have started after it the ball was set for play.

[Joe]

wasn't it? or i guess it was out of bounds so maybe youre right, it wasnt a first down

[cthomer5000]

Clock would have started after it the ball was set for play.
Not if it went out of bounds.

[GrantDawg]

If you fumble out of bounds it doesn't stop the clock?

[vtbub]

Not if it went out of bounds.

Yeah, ur right.

Not a good job by the NBC crew in relating that.

[Easy Mac]

ok, everybody switch to Loiusville WVU

[Galaxy]

Yes...

[Galaxy]

Yeah, ur right.

Not a good job by the NBC crew in relating that.


Might have to do with ND bias. :D

[Joe]

those tricky trojans

[Barkeep49]

I don't follow college football at all but I turned on the end of this one as I was eating dinner and watched the last 6 or so minutes. What a game! I was rooting for ND and am sorry to see them lose, but man what a contest.

[cthomer5000]

Not a good job by the NBC crew in relating that.
I don't think anyone had any fucking idea what was going on, and I would not be surprised if that goes as far as Charlie Weis and Pete Carroll not realizing the clock was stopped. Just absolute confusion there in the final seconds.

[timmynausea]

Nobody probably just saw WVU come back to beat Louisville. Insane.

[Solecismic]

If you fumble out of bounds it doesn't stop the clock?

It does, but the clock is started on the referee's placement if the referee determines that the spot is forward of the spot of the fumble. Now the ball looked like it went sideways or backward, but the referee must have told both sides he'd start the clock on the spot - and the spot of the ball did seem to indicate that the referee thought it went forward.

[GrantDawg]

It does, but the clock is started on the referee's placement if the referee determines that the spot is forward of the spot of the fumble. Now the ball looked like it went sideways or backward, but the referee must have told both sides he'd start the clock on the spot - and the spot of the ball did seem to indicate that the referee thought it went forward.

Good to know.

[VPI97]

Nobody probably just saw WVU come back to beat Louisville. Insane.I did.

'grats to the Mounties.

[Recoil]

One more good thing to come out of today. No more undefeated Louisville talk.

[Galaxy]

One more good thing to come out of today. No more undefeated Louisville talk.
Huh? They had one loss coming in.

[timmynausea]

One more good thing to come out of today. No more undefeated Louisville talk.

Especially since this is their second loss this year.

[digamma]

It does, but the clock is started on the referee's placement if the referee determines that the spot is forward of the spot of the fumble. Now the ball looked like it went sideways or backward, but the referee must have told both sides he'd start the clock on the spot - and the spot of the ball did seem to indicate that the referee thought it went forward.
Thanks, this must have been the ruling on the field--which I think makes it a pretty poor call. The ball was obviously out. The ref closest to the play had no clue, as he signaled TD.

[dawgfan]

In news that should shock no one, Washington is clobbered at Autzen Stadium by the 0's. Fucking Oregon. After the near-miss at UCLA, I actually thought the Huskies had a chance this week, until I saw Oregon dismantle ASU last week that is.

Washington has a long road ahead of it to climb back to respectability. Thanks Rick, thanks Babs, thanks Gerb...

[Solecismic]

In news that should shock no one, Washington is clobbered at Autzen Stadium by the 0's. Fucking Oregon. After the near-miss at UCLA, I actually thought the Huskies had a chance this week, until I saw Oregon dismantle ASU last week that is.

Washington has a long road ahead of it to climb back to respectability. Thanks Rick, thanks Babs, thanks Gerb...

I remember talking to Babs early on in her tenure when I was stringing a Husky women's basketball game for The Seattle Times. It was so clear her hiring was political, and her emphasis was creating a politically correct sports universe. She kept talking about image, never about the quality of the teams.

She was in over her head. It took 12 years to get rid of her, and really, all she had to do was protect Neuheisel instead of make it a personal campaign to get rid of the guy she overspent on in the first place. I'd be devastated if something like that happened at Michigan - this season has been bad enough.

[Easy Mac]

It does, but the clock is started on the referee's placement if the referee determines that the spot is forward of the spot of the fumble. Now the ball looked like it went sideways or backward, but the referee must have told both sides he'd start the clock on the spot - and the spot of the ball did seem to indicate that the referee thought it went forward.
Start TCY2 conspiracy theory here.


And also, Jay Cutler is the best QB in the country that no one knows.

[GrantDawg]

Start TCY2 conspiracy theory here.


And also, Jay Cutler is the best QB in the country that no one knows.

Yup, but they'll all know him come Combine time.

[Easy Mac]

TD Vandy!
7-7 Skydog!

[dawgfan]

I remember talking to Babs early on in her tenure when I was stringing a Husky women's basketball game for The Seattle Times. It was so clear her hiring was political, and her emphasis was creating a politically correct sports universe. She kept talking about image, never about the quality of the teams.

She was in over her head. It took 12 years to get rid of her, and really, all she had to do was protect Neuheisel instead of make it a personal campaign to get rid of the guy she overspent on in the first place. I'd be devastated if something like that happened at Michigan - this season has been bad enough.

Her hiring was definitely political, as she was a major pawn in President Gerberding's war against the athletic department and his resentment against the success of the football team under Don James. Gerb started the decline with his overt dislike of the football program - it was Gerb who spearheaded the reversal in penalties against the UW that switched from 2-year TV ban/1-year post-season ban to a 1-year TV ban/2-year post-season ban, a move that Don James considered a betrayal and was the cause of his resignation in disgust.

Babs was just another part of Gerb's desire to de-emphasize football at the UW. Her hiring of Neuheisel was one done without enough homework and was a ridiculous example of over-spending. The inevitable NCAA trouble Neuheisel got himself into as well as his pattern of doing well his first 2 seasons only to see his program decline the next 2 seasons and then collapse the 2 seasons following him leaving further hastened the decline.

Gilby certainly didn't help much with his uninspired coaching, but he was simply the last straw in a long chain of events that's led to the Husky football program hitting rock-bottom.

Pray for your sake that Michigan never follows a similar path...

[Recoil]

Vandy just tied UGA 7-7 with 7 mins to go in the 2nd quarter. This is reminding me of the GT/Duke game earlier today with the better team coming out flat in the 1st half.

[digamma]

Vandy just tied UGA 7-7 with 7 mins to go in the 2nd quarter. This is reminding me of the GT/Duke game earlier today with the better team coming out flat in the 1st half.
Tech didn't come out that flat--they just took the second quarter off. They outgained Duke by 120 yards in the first quarter and had the ball for 11 minutes, but they had yet another red zone turnover that prevented the game from being 14-0 early.

Then, they decided not to play the second quarter.

[Easy Mac]

Vandy just tied UGA 7-7 with 7 mins to go in the 2nd quarter. This is reminding me of the GT/Duke game earlier today with the better team coming out flat in the 1st half.
Yes, Vandy has looked pretty flat tonight.

And Dat boy run so good.

[miami_fan]

Prediction:

WSU comes out fired up, pissed off, and needing to show some pride in front of the Pullman faithful. Perhaps Harrison busts a big run, or Brink hits someone on a long bomb. UCLA is back on their heels for a bit, and gets down early. Maybe it's 14-3 or 21-10 at halftime in favor of the Cougars.

But in the second half we wear down. We give up the inevitable Big Turnover, and our thin defensive depth gets exploited. The Bruins win a high-scoring affair. I'll say 41-35.


So far so good on the prediction 28-14 halftime

[-Mojo Jojo-]

Penn State loses!

And Wisconsin is now in a 2-team tie for the Big 10 lead. We're goin' to the Rose Bowl, baby! Johns Stocco for Heisman!!! :rolleyes: :D :D