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DeToxRox
10-14-2005, 08:42 PM
I know guys like St. Cronin and RPI Fan will be viewing so I felt I'd start a thread.
I am watching Michigan vs Boston College tonight. Amazing game. Watching Jack Johnson is something to see. Such a damn solid defensemen, I can't say enough good things about him.
This game has been excellent.
Anyways, Michigan and BC are two young, talented teams, but I still suspect a Frozen Four of Colorado College and Minnesota in the finals.
PS .. How has Kessel done so far?
st.cronin
10-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Fuck Kessel
DeToxRox
10-14-2005, 08:48 PM
Fuck Kessel
Haha. Care to elab?
st.cronin
10-14-2005, 08:55 PM
I was a season ticket holder at the Kohl Center the last 4 years. 'Nuff said.
I think the Badgers have a chance to make some serious noise this year ... they've been quietly building the last two years, and, other than their superstar goalie, didn't lose anybody significant from last year's top 10 squad.
DeToxRox
10-14-2005, 08:57 PM
I was a season ticket holder at the Kohl Center the last 4 years. 'Nuff said.
I think the Badgers have a chance to make some serious noise this year ... they've been quietly building the last two years, and, other than their superstar goalie, didn't lose anybody significant from last year's top 10 squad.
Bah I knew this. My fault. I forgot you were a Badger fan.
Wisconsin should be solid though.
Jack Johnson just knocked BC's goalies helmet off with a shot. Amazing.
Cogliano is playing so much. He's looking damn impressive.
st.cronin
10-14-2005, 08:59 PM
I don't know anything at all about east coast hockey. I don't think I could name a single player in any of those conferences. Having said that, I think anything less than a championship for Minnesota has to be considered a disappointment. They were the most talented team I saw last year, and everybody good is back, plus Kessel. Briggs is a solid goalie. They're like the Yankees of NCAA hockey.
DeToxRox
10-14-2005, 09:09 PM
Michigan beats BC 3-2 in an exciting game.
The big three freshman for Michigan (Johnson, Cogliano, Sauer) all played well as Michigan improves to 3-0.
Awesome game.
RPI-Fan
10-14-2005, 09:32 PM
I don't know anything at all about east coast hockey. I don't think I could name a single player in any of those conferences. Having said that, I think anything less than a championship for Minnesota has to be considered a disappointment. They were the most talented team I saw last year, and everybody good is back, plus Kessel. Briggs is a solid goalie. They're like the Yankees of NCAA hockey.
Probably ought to figure out how to name David McKee, who would have to underperform to NOT win the Hobey this year.
sovereignstar
10-14-2005, 09:38 PM
Gophers just lost in OT to a scrappy Alaska-Fairbanks team. Only played for one period while the Nanooks played hard throughout the whole game. Nice little wakeup call to start the season. Hopefully tomorrow night is a different story.
sovereignstar
10-14-2005, 09:45 PM
PS .. How has Kessel done so far?
He looked okay. Kind of seemed like he was pressing for his first goal tonight as he looked a little too aggressive in some situations when he probably should have pulled it back. I'd put money on him burying one tomorrow night.
DeToxRox
10-14-2005, 09:46 PM
He looked okay. Kind of seemed like he was pressing for his first goal tonight as he looked a little too aggressive in some situations when he probably should have pulled it back. I'd put money on him burying one tomorrow night.
Thanks for the update, Sov.
Cards4ever
10-15-2005, 09:51 AM
Gophers looked like a team that knew they should win and played like it. Too many guys standing around and watching UAF skate around them. They scored in the last minute short handed to tie the game and then proceeded to get caught on a 2 on 1 and UAF buried it. I thought Kessel looked good, his skating ability definitely pressed UAF to the max and almost caught the goalie napping on a rebound from behind the net.
Here's a great article about Kessel from yesterdays Star Trib
http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5668415.html
Sublime 2
10-15-2005, 10:01 AM
Going to the BU season opener tonight against UMass-Lowell. Should be a good game between two top-5 Hockey East teams. Hopefully Johnny Curry can keep up his solid goalie play from last year. Also Looking forward to seeing how BU's PP is this year with the loss of Chris Bourque. All in all I'm amped for the start of the season, hopefully an early conference win tonight!!
Cards4ever
10-16-2005, 12:30 AM
Gophers get another late goal to tie, this time on a non-call by the ref allowing them said score. UAF played the Gophers tough and probably deserved to sweep them. 3-3 tie, no goals by Kessel. Another horrid night defensively by the U of M.
Blade6119
10-16-2005, 01:02 AM
Hows wheeler doing at minn? He is prob in kessel, frazee, and the frosh's shadows, but we was a top 5 pick a year or two ago(i confuse the last two sometimes)
Cards4ever
10-16-2005, 10:36 AM
Hows wheeler doing at minn? He is prob in kessel, frazee, and the frosh's shadows, but we was a top 5 pick a year or two ago(i confuse the last two sometimes)
Wheeler is doing well so far with 2 goals. If you are a Coyotes fan, their is quite the Minnesota connection with Taffe, Ballard and Wheeler. Also Tanabe is a Minnesota product via University of Wisco.
Sublime 2
10-16-2005, 11:10 AM
BU knocked off UMass-Lowell 3-1 to start the season. The frosh all looked pretty good. The refs are definetly enforcing the "hit from behind rule" as a 5 minute penalty. Happened once for each team. The PP looked looked pretty crappy i thought but all in all a dominating performance by the Terriers against a team that is supposed to be an Elite Team in Hockey East.
DeToxRox
10-16-2005, 12:00 PM
BU knocked off UMass-Lowell 3-1 to start the season. The frosh all looked pretty good. The refs are definetly enforcing the "hit from behind rule" as a 5 minute penalty. Happened once for each team. The PP looked looked pretty crappy i thought but all in all a dominating performance by the Terriers against a team that is supposed to be an Elite Team in Hockey East.
Ditto thought I'd add in Michigan/BC each team lost a player to the check from behind. During the intermission BC's assisstant coach said both penalties were legit and it's great to see them taking a stance against it.
BishopMVP
10-16-2005, 03:19 PM
BU knocked off UMass-Lowell 3-1 to start the season. The frosh all looked pretty good. The refs are definetly enforcing the "hit from behind rule" as a 5 minute penalty. Happened once for each team. The PP looked looked pretty crappy i thought but all in all a dominating performance by the Terriers against a team that is supposed to be an Elite Team in Hockey East.UM-L is the most overrated team in hockey east. At least before Walter left, UM-L fans were talking about winning Hockey East, but now that he's gone they won't even get home-ice for the playoffs.
Sublime 2
10-16-2005, 03:47 PM
The way they looked last night, Vetri is their only chance at staying out of the cellar of HE. He's on an island on that team. If Vetri wasn't in net last night the score would have easily been 8-1.
UML had a 5 minute PP and had ZERO shots on goal. That's incredible and it's definetly not all BU's PK. The only thing i can see is that they started out incredibly slow last year and ended the reg. season as the hottest team in HE. I think they were 11-2 down the stretch last year.
DeToxRox
10-16-2005, 04:34 PM
Michigan is up 9-2 on Merrimack with 50 seconds left.
Another impressive win.
bronconick
10-16-2005, 09:47 PM
Western lost 5-2 to Robert fucking Morris.
We won't win more then 5 games this year. Fucking Culhane.
CHEMICAL SOLDIER
10-16-2005, 10:56 PM
Will FSN or ESPN show collegiate hockey or is it with regional sports channels? I am really interested to watch but if the product isnt being shown...
AZSpeechCoach
10-16-2005, 11:17 PM
I have been disappointed with the U of Arizona hockey team the past two years. From 21 straight years of making nationals, they have been shut out the last two years. Is this the year for the Icecats?
RPI-Fan
10-16-2005, 11:20 PM
Will FSN or ESPN show collegiate hockey or is it with regional sports channels? I am really interested to watch but if the product isnt being shown...
If you have the FSN College Sports package (<$2/mo for me), they show a handful of games each weekend.
sovereignstar
10-16-2005, 11:20 PM
Will FSN or ESPN show collegiate hockey or is it with regional sports channels? I am really interested to watch but if the product isnt being shown...
Gophers games are on FSN North all the time.
sovereignstar
10-21-2005, 08:26 PM
Kessel just scored his first collegiate goal on a penalty shot. Gophers up 4-2 against MSU-Mankato. w00t
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 09:44 PM
Minnesota wins 5-2, Kessel's line(which includes Wheeler) has 3 goals and 3 assists, Mankato was 0-10 on the PP.
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Badgers off to a middling start, 1-1-1. They have a superstar goalie, but don't score enough goals, blah blah blah.
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:10 PM
Superstar goalie?! That's a good one!
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:13 PM
Superstar goalie?! That's a good one!
Brian Elliot has had one bad game in his career, unless I forgot about one. Every time he's had a chance to play, he's played great. He's got better physical tools than Bruckler, and is thought by most scouts to be a better pro prospect.
vtbub
10-21-2005, 10:14 PM
UVM 5-2 over Minn-Duluth.
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:19 PM
I think Superstar goalie is a stretch, the system that Wisco plays makes him look better then what he is.
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:22 PM
I think Superstar goalie is a stretch, the system that Wisco plays makes him look better then what he is.
Fine, we'll take Elliot, you keep Briggs, we'll all be happy :D
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:26 PM
Fine, not only will we take Briggs, we'll also take Frazee and Kessel to boot. Hmmm, when is the last time Wisco was in a Frozen 4 again???
DeToxRox
10-21-2005, 10:29 PM
What's the bigger rivalry?
Min/ND or Min/Wis?
I've met a couple players through some hockey tournaments I helped with (Stafford at Shattacks is one guy I talked too) and it seems like ND/MIN is much bigger between the schools then Wis/Min but am I wrong?
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:29 PM
Sometime in the Ming Dynasty, I think. But that's why it's better to be a Badger fan than a Gopher fan. When they do finally reach those glorious heights, it is all the sweeter for having waited so long... Gopher fans are expecting a championship this year. Anything less will be disappointing.
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:36 PM
What's the bigger rivalry?
Min/ND or Min/Wis?
I've met a couple players through some hockey tournaments I helped with (Stafford at Shattacks is one guy I talked too) and it seems like ND/MIN is much bigger between the schools then Wis/Min but am I wrong?
If Wisco could be a better team, that would help. :D
If you look over the entire history and the fact that MN plays Wisco in many more sports, then it's Wisco. In hockey, because UND is better then Wisco, it's UND-MN.
It's also amazing how much st.cronin knows MN hockey and it's fans, especially living all the way down in New Mexico.
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:37 PM
Min/Wis covers multiple sports, and is a very intense rivalry for the fans, because most students/alumni have close friends/relatives with ties to the other school. I don't know much about Min/ND.
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:38 PM
It's also amazing how much st.cronin knows MN hockey and it's fans, especially living all the way down in New Mexico.
I lived in Madison for 4 years. My fiancee is a UW grad.
sovereignstar
10-21-2005, 10:38 PM
In hockey, because UND is better then Wisco, it's UND-MN.
Yep.
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:41 PM
Min/Wis covers multiple sports, and is a very intense rivalry for the fans, because most students/alumni have close friends/relatives with ties to the other school. I don't know much about Min/ND.
I think this proves my point about not knowing much about MN hockey and it's fans. Having had season tickets the last few years, Mariucci is electric when UND comes to town, Wisco, eh. I think it's more alive when SCSU comes to town.
I'm also referring to the remark about anything less is a disappointment, a championship is the expected goal at Minnesota, that's why Lucia was brought here and that is what he is aiming for, year after year.
sovereignstar
10-21-2005, 10:42 PM
I think it's more alive when SCSU comes to town.
Yeah, St. Cloud is another good one. GOPHER REJECTS CH-CH-CH-CH-CH!
Hell, I was a Gopher reject who ended up going to SCSU. :)
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:44 PM
I think this proves my point about not knowing much about MN hockey and it's fans. Having had season tickets the last few years, Mariucci is electric when UND comes to town, Wisco, eh. I think it's more alive when SCSU comes to town.
Well I don't think I have ever suggested that I was an expert. I was merely posting my perspective. FWIW, the craziest crowd in recent memory at the Kohl center was for the UND games two seasons ago, when UND came in ranked #1. So, I don't know what your point is.
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:44 PM
Yeah, St. Cloud is another good one. GOPHER REJECTS CH-CH-CH-CH-CH!
Hell, I was a Gopher reject who ended up going to SCSU. :)
And you live in Moorhead, man, you've got issues! :D I take it you are a Gopher fan? Even with Lee going to UND?
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:46 PM
Well I don't think I have ever suggested that I was an expert. I was merely posting my perspective. FWIW, the craziest crowd in recent memory at the Kohl center was for the UND games two seasons ago, when UND came in ranked #1. So, I don't know what your point is.
Well, you are the one touting "Superstars", I'd like to think you know something if you start throwing that label around.
My point is, people get fired up big time when the Flickertails come to town a lot more then when the red cheese come here.
st.cronin
10-21-2005, 10:48 PM
Well, you are the one touting "Superstars", I'd like to think you know something if you start throwing that label around.
My point is, people get fired up big time when the Flickertails come to town a lot more then when the red cheese come here.
And if you knew anything about BADGER hockey you would realize I was pointing out it's the same old same old in Madison.
sovereignstar
10-21-2005, 10:50 PM
And you live in Moorhead, man, you've got issues! :D I take it you are a Gopher fan? Even with Lee going to UND?
I grew up disliking the Sioux, since I'm from Fargo (and therefore root for the NDSU Bison). But I've grown to respect the hockey program they've got up there, so I'll root for them when I'm not cheering on the Gophers. It's nice though; I get to watch both teams on TV each weekend. :)
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:53 PM
Yeah, I know that they don't sell out unless Minnesota or UND come to town.
Cards4ever
10-21-2005, 10:55 PM
I grew up disliking the Sioux, since I'm from Fargo (and therefore root for the NDSU Bison). But I've grown to respect the hockey program they've got up there, so I'll root for them when I'm not cheering on the Gophers. It's nice though; I get to watch both teams on TV each weekend. :)
Can't bring myself to cheer for UND, but even I have to admit that I've never seen teams work harder then them. Especially when Blais was there.
Cards4ever
10-22-2005, 08:35 PM
Gophers up 4-3 after 2, all goals on the PP. No goals by Kessel.
RPI-Fan
10-22-2005, 08:51 PM
RPI snagged a road win over a ranked BU team last night... hopefully we can keep things going to make this season a little more interesting.
Wolfpack
10-22-2005, 09:08 PM
Heh. Didn't think the RPI in your name meant Rennselaer. I find it a little humorous because I've been doing research on college football rivalries as part of my attempt to recreate college football history over in the dynasty section. Rensselaer came up three times because of their trophy games against Union (the shoes), the Coast Guard (the shotglass), and WPI (the transit). Though Rennselaer isn't rated for pretty much all of the seasons I have, I was able to track down a site that had the histories of these series and am hoping to incorporate these series (and a lot of others, I've come to discover) into the replay because I can play single games based on the scores of those games historically.
Edit to add: Oop, for some reason I thought this was football-related...didn't read the thread title closely enough. Pardon the threadjack. :)
Cards4ever
10-22-2005, 10:28 PM
Gophers hold on to win 4-3. They killed a 5 minute major with 7 minutes left to win.
bronconick
10-22-2005, 10:40 PM
Niagara 3, WMU 2
0-2-0.
Automatically 0-4 with two games vs. Ohio State next week, so the search for the 1st win will be the 4th and 5th vs. LSSU.
Sublime 2
10-22-2005, 10:47 PM
RPI snagged a road win over a ranked BU team last night... hopefully we can keep things going to make this season a little more interesting.
Yeah....I was quite unimpressed...BU DOMINATED and then RPI showed an unreal no-quit attitude and won. Congrats to them! But BU should have smoked them.
RPI-Fan
10-23-2005, 07:41 AM
Yeah....I was quite unimpressed...BU DOMINATED and then RPI showed an unreal no-quit attitude and won. Congrats to them! But BU should have smoked them.
BU definitely was faster than us. But our rookie goaltender has looked very solid at times early on, and our #1 line is just as good as your's in the offensive zone, I think.
Sublime 2
10-24-2005, 10:51 AM
BU definitely was faster than us. But our rookie goaltender has looked very solid at times early on, and our #1 line is just as good as your's in the offensive zone, I think.
Yeah your goalie was definetly on top of his game. The SOG was largely in our favor but it didn't matter at all, he made some very quality saves.
RPI-Fan
10-28-2005, 08:58 PM
RPI with a nice home win tonight 7-5 over NU after trailing 4-0 in the first period. No penalties for either team in the 3rd -- good hockey game that was fun to watch and I'm glad the home team could get a positive result!
st.cronin
10-28-2005, 09:20 PM
Wisconsin goaltender Brian Elliott has allowed just seven goals in his last six WCHA games.
bronconick
10-28-2005, 10:40 PM
Niagara 3, WMU 2
0-2-0.
Automatically 0-4 with two games vs. Ohio State next week, so the search for the 1st win will be the 4th and 5th vs. LSSU.
I stand corrected
WMU 5, #4 Ohio State 1
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Cards4ever
10-29-2005, 08:52 PM
Gophers are headed for a split, Kessel has a shortie tonight.
st.cronin
10-29-2005, 10:00 PM
Wisconsin goalie Brian Elliott has now given up eight goals in his last seven WCHA games. He has played every game this year and is 4-1-1, with a 1.40 gaa and a .940 save percentage.
Cards4ever
10-30-2005, 09:57 AM
Wisconsin goalie Brian Elliott has now given up eight goals in his last seven WCHA games. He has played every game this year and is 4-1-1, with a 1.40 gaa and a .940 save percentage.
Woohoo, hang the banner already bucky, you just swept Alaska Anchorage(at home), tied and beat SCSU. :rolleyes:
bronconick
10-30-2005, 10:16 AM
I stand corrected
WMU 5, #4 Ohio State 1
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I am teh suck at predictions.
Western 5, OSU 4
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BishopMVP
10-30-2005, 12:55 PM
UMass came out Friday night and outplayed an overrated UNH team, but couldn't finish and lost 4-1 after a couple late goals. Then Saturday we played Maine and were completely disgraceful. Worst display of hockey I've ever seen for two periods, and in the third Maine was probably just sitting back since they were up 3-0 already. At least the goalies look pretty good, but it's gonna be a long season with all the youngsters and the fact that no one can score on this team.
One other note, I know most of you will disagree, but Thomas Pock was the best player in college hockey two years ago. In the two years since he's left it's become more and more apparent just how special he was.
Sublime 2
11-05-2005, 01:06 PM
BU won last night against #6 Vermont, 4-2. Vermont really didn't look that good. They were huge...but didn't seem to be all that skilled. It could have just been a bad game because they have played 4 games in the past week but they certainly didn't look like a team that can hang with the big boys in Hockey East.
st.cronin
11-05-2005, 11:51 PM
Badgers sweep North Dakota in Grand Forks, 4-2 and 4-1.
How'd the Gophers do again?
sovereignstar
11-11-2005, 08:50 PM
Gophers on top of Alaska-Anchorage 7-0 after two. Kessel has five points (1 PP goal, 4 assists).
Final is 9-0. Wheeler added two goals and Stoa snapped in a wrister as well. Kellen Briggs with his UM record 9th shutout.
DeToxRox
11-11-2005, 10:59 PM
Next weekend, Michigan has Minnesota and Wisconsin coming to town. Talk about some awesome hockey.
Johnson vs Kessel will be awesome.
sovereignstar
11-11-2005, 11:22 PM
Next weekend, Michigan has Minnesota and Wisconsin coming to town. Talk about some awesome hockey.
Johnson vs Kessel will be awesome.
Actually it's two weeks away.
Cards4ever
11-12-2005, 12:16 AM
Badgers sweep North Dakota in Grand Forks, 4-2 and 4-1.
How'd the Gophers do again?
You go ahead and hang that November banner bucky. Briggs shut out AA tonight, I guess he's now the best goalie in the WCHA. :rolleyes:
st.cronin
11-12-2005, 10:57 PM
I heart Brian Elliott
Cards4ever
11-13-2005, 01:15 AM
Gophers sweep the Championship Contender Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves.
RPI-Fan
11-13-2005, 08:16 AM
BU won last night against #6 Vermont, 4-2. Vermont really didn't look that good. They were huge...but didn't seem to be all that skilled. It could have just been a bad game because they have played 4 games in the past week but they certainly didn't look like a team that can hang with the big boys in Hockey East.
When I saw Vermont last year, I wasn't really impressed.
Like you said, they have good speed and a couple of bigger guys, but just not that much skill. I have my doubts as to whether they'd even finish in the top half of the ECAC (who's having a down year as it is).
Cards4ever
11-20-2005, 12:41 AM
Hmm, where's that post that reports the Worlds Greatest Goaltender held those WCHA superstars from Mankato to 1 goal, can you believe it folks? Brian Elliot held Mankato to 1 goal at home!!!!!
On the Maroon and Gold front, Gophers pull 3 points out of Denver this weekend and if Karim is reading this, Chucko broke a 17 game goalless streak with 2 in the third to complete the comeback tonight.
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 12:50 AM
Goals Against Average: Minutes GA GAA
1 Matt Lundin Maine SO 239:00 3 0.75
2 Brian Elliott (OTT) Wisconsin JR 670:32 15 1.34
3 Jeff Zatkoff Miami FR 356:58 8 1.34
4 Charlie Effinger Miami SO 244:51 6 1.47
5 Matt Zaba (LAK) Colorado College JR 709:08 20 1.69
6 Mark Dekanich Colgate SO 583:00 17 1.75
7 Layne Sedevie Bemidji State JR 299:44 9 1.80
8 Joe Fallon Vermont SO 597:36 18 1.81
9 Tony Quesada Holy Cross SR 363:32 11 1.82
10 Dave Caruso Ohio State SR 578:58 18 1.87
11 Ben Bishop (STL) Maine FR 480:01 15 1.87
12 Bill Zaniboni Northern Michigan SO 510:22 18 2.12
13 Tyler Sims Providence SO 604:01 22 2.19
14 Kyle McNulty Clarkson JR 356:20 13 2.19
15 Jason Smith (NJD) Sacred Heart JR 529:10 20 2.27
16 Jeff Jakaitis Lake Superior JR 710:27 27 2.28
17 Jordan Parise North Dakota JR 603:13 23 2.29
18 Kellen Briggs Minnesota JR 463:09 18 2.33
19 Jeff Pietrasiak (PHO) New Hampshire SR 359:22 14 2.34
20 Billy Sauer Michigan FR 486:05 19 2.35
21 Bobby Goepfert (PIT) St. Cloud State JR 610:37 24 2.36
22 Mathias Lange Rensselaer FR 633:05 25 2.37
23 Jon Quick (LAK) Massachusetts FR 298:55 12 2.41
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 12:51 AM
Brian Elliott has gone 14 straight starts without giving up more than 2 goals.
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 12:52 AM
Save Percentage: Saves GA Save%
1 Matt Lundin Maine SO 82 3 .965
2 Brian Elliott (OTT) Wisconsin JR 268 15 .947
3 Jeff Zatkoff Miami FR 134 8 .944
4 Charlie Effinger Miami SO 100 6 .943
5 Mark Dekanich Colgate SO 265 17 .940
6 Tony Quesada Holy Cross SR 163 11 .937
7 Jon Quick (LAK) Massachusetts FR 175 12 .936
8 Layne Sedevie Bemidji State JR 131 9 .936
9 Matt Zaba (LAK) Colorado College JR 291 20 .936
10 Jordan Parise North Dakota JR 312 23 .931
11 Jeff Pietrasiak (PHO) New Hampshire SR 181 14 .928
12 Chad Johnson Alaska Fairbanks FR 139 11 .927
13 Tyler Sims Providence SO 272 22 .925
14 Ben Bishop (STL) Maine FR 180 15 .923
15 Bobby Goepfert (PIT) St. Cloud State JR 280 24 .921
Blade6119
11-20-2005, 12:59 AM
I dont follow college hockey too much but how is miami doing...just by looking at their two goalies they shouldnt be doing too poorly...
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 01:03 AM
Miami (OH) is 6-1-1, got a win and a tie against Notre Dame this weekend.
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 01:10 AM
Just for you, Cards4ever, the WCHA standings:
Conference Only Overall
Pts GP Record Win% GF- GA GP Record Win% GF- GA
1 Wisconsin 16 9 7- 0- 2 .889 31- 11 11 8- 1- 2 .818 35- 15
2 Minnesota 14 10 6- 2- 2 .700 39- 24 12 6- 3- 3 .625 45- 31
3 Colorado College 13 8 6- 1- 1 .812 29- 12 14 11- 2- 1 .821 50- 23
4 Denver 8 8 3- 3- 2 .500 26- 24 12 5- 5- 2 .500 39- 38
Minnesota Duluth 8 8 3- 3- 2 .500 25- 27 12 3- 7- 2 .333 30- 45
North Dakota 8 8 4- 4- 0 .500 25- 28 14 8- 5- 1 .607 42- 37
7 St. Cloud State 7 10 3- 6- 1 .350 25- 25 12 4- 7- 1 .375 28- 30
8 Minnesota State 6 9 2- 5- 2 .333 23- 29 11 2- 7- 2 .273 29- 40
9 Alaska Anchorage 3 8 1- 6- 1 .188 13- 35 12 3- 8- 1 .292 22- 43
Michigan Tech 3 8 1- 6- 1 .188 13- 34 14 2-11- 1 .179 27- 57
Cards4ever
11-20-2005, 07:34 AM
So, when do you get that banner for being the National Champs of November Bucky? Just who has Elliott beat in those 14 games? Has Wisconsin ever sent all 5 of their players across the red line?
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 11:19 AM
I actually made a typo; it's FIFTEEN straight starts with 2 goals or less. He is also now 3-0-1 with a 1.25 gaa against teams in last year's Frozen Four.
TroyF
11-20-2005, 11:33 AM
I actually made a typo; it's FIFTEEN straight starts with 2 goals or less. He is also now 3-0-1 with a 1.25 gaa against teams in last year's Frozen Four.
Yeah, but somehow he sucks. I don't get it.
I don't care if they aren't crossing the blue line at all and are plyaing pre schoolers, the guy is doing something right.
Cards4ever
11-20-2005, 01:18 PM
I actually made a typo; it's FIFTEEN straight starts with 2 goals or less. He is also now 3-0-1 with a 1.25 gaa against teams in last year's Frozen Four.
So, CC and UND brought back the players that Graduated or left and they played against Wisco this year? Amazing!!!!
Troy, as for what you said, are you telling me a guy that hits .350 for the Rockies is exactly the same as a guy hitting .350 at Petco?
DeToxRox
11-20-2005, 01:22 PM
Listen, I am a former goalie, and no matter your team, when you're going 15 games without giving more then 2 goals thats fucking impressive.
We'll see this weekend though as the Nations top team Michigan takes on both Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Cards4ever
11-20-2005, 01:29 PM
So, the people that I know that happen to scout know nothing? He's a decent goalie that puts up good numbers because of the system. St Cronin comes on here and proclaims he's some kind of superstar. He's on a run, but like I keep saying, they don't hand out banners in November. Lets see how these teams look in March.
DeToxRox
11-20-2005, 01:31 PM
So, the people that I know that happen to scout know nothing? He's a decent goalie that puts up good numbers because of the system. St Cronin comes on here and proclaims he's some kind of superstar. He's on a run, but like I keep saying, they don't hand out banners in November. Lets see how these teams look in March.
JS Gigure is the same way. At some point though you have to give credit to the kid and not the system because you can't just plug someone into the system.
Cards4ever
11-20-2005, 01:50 PM
As I said, he's a decent goalie. The team is on a run, just as Minnesota was last year, UND the year before, Michigan the year before that, did ANY of those teams win the title? The Gophers just took 3 points in Denver, do you see me pounding my chest proclaiming how great the Gophers are because they just took 3 from the Defending National Champs? Hell no, look at all the points and experience Denver lost, they are no where near the team they were last April and they are probably not the same team they will be next April. In other words, it's a long season, settle down Bucky, see how it shakes out. If Wisco is in the Frozen 4, talk all you want about how great they are.
st.cronin
11-20-2005, 02:46 PM
People say the the same shit about Marty Brodeur that Cards4Ever says about Elliott and he's won all sorts of titles. I think Elliott is better than Bruckler ever was, and he was widely considered the best goalie in the WCHA. At the beginning of this thread, I said the Gophers should be favored to win it all - but the Badgers will be good, too. I think it's funny how he insisted Gopher fans don't care about the Badgers, and then for the next few weeks all he does is mock the Badgers. I have never trashed the Gophers, here, or anywhere; they are a solid team that I enjoy rooting against.
Cards4ever
11-20-2005, 03:00 PM
I always mock fans that hang November Banners, SCSU fans that I've worked with in the past can attest to that! :D
Comparing Elliott to Brodeur is a good one, can't wait to pass that on to some people I know, they'll love it!
st.cronin
11-21-2005, 06:25 PM
After yesterday Elliot now has 16 consecutive games allowing 2 goals or less.
Also, anybody inferring that I compared Brian Elliott to Marty Brodeur has reading skills such that they probably could not attend ANY college, much less Minnesota.
I was comparing what you say about Elliott to what NY Ranger fans bitterly complain about Brodeur every time he shuts them out ... "It's the system, wah, they don't play fair, we need a trapezoid behind the net..."
Cards4ever
11-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Ah yes, the insult my intelligence to deflect from the hockey issue, good job!
Just to put this to rest, if you honestly believe that Elliott would be this good in a wide open system, fine. We will just have to agree to disagree. I just hope that if Elliott takes some beatings, you come on and report on those like you do when he beats all of these cupcakes.
BTW, I still want to know how many trips to Grand Forks you made to see Parise play when he was at UND.
st.cronin
11-21-2005, 08:36 PM
Ah yes, the insult my intelligence to deflect from the hockey issue, good job!
Just to put this to rest, if you honestly believe that Elliott would be this good in a wide open system, fine. We will just have to agree to disagree. I just hope that if Elliott takes some beatings, you come on and report on those like you do when he beats all of these cupcakes.
BTW, I still want to know how many trips to Grand Forks you made to see Parise play when he was at UND.
Only two.
Cards4ever
11-21-2005, 08:52 PM
"I saw a lot of him at NoDak. He's a very unique player, and I think you're lucky to have him. I expect him to be quite good, maybe something like Holik in his good years."
I saw a lot of him is 2 trips to GF and the 2 trips to Madison?
TroyF
11-21-2005, 09:04 PM
So, CC and UND brought back the players that Graduated or left and they played against Wisco this year? Amazing!!!!
Troy, as for what you said, are you telling me a guy that hits .350 for the Rockies is exactly the same as a guy hitting .350 at Petco?
Not the same, but I wouldn't assume the Rockies hitter sucks either. (take a look at how many Rockies hitters have actually hit .350 and you'll be surprised at the list)
A few things:
1) It's not just the goals against. Look at the save percentage. The stats I found said he had the #1 save percentage in college hockey. So it isn't that he's facing fewer shots. Maybe fewer wide open breakaways, but not fewer shots. His record is impressive no matter how I try to slice it up.
2) I don't really care where we are in the year. He's been impressive and he's on a hell of a run. I'm not proclaiming him to be the best goalie of all time, nor have I seen anyone here do so.
3) What scouts think he'd do in an open system is irrelevant. It also doesn't matter if he's projected to be a pro goalie or not. He's playing college hockey, not professional hockey. And he's in a slow it down system, something that isn't going to change. (unless st. cronin can tell me that Wisconsin is planning on running and gunning soon, which I don't think likely) Tommie Frazier couldn't operate a west coast offense and he was never going to the NFL. He won a couple of national titles.
4) You keep saying "Wait until the season ends. . ." Who cares? We all have brains enough here to understand that the performence now means nothing until the playoffs start. But we can appreciate solid performences until then. I guess you're saying if a Gopher were lighting things up through 20 games, you wouldn't speak highly of him because, well, ya know, he hasn't proven anything yet. BS.
Cards4ever
11-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Not the same, but I wouldn't assume the Rockies hitter sucks either. (take a look at how many Rockies hitters have actually hit .350 and you'll be surprised at the list)
A few things:
1) It's not just the goals against. Look at the save percentage. The stats I found said he had the #1 save percentage in college hockey. So it isn't that he's facing fewer shots. Maybe fewer wide open breakaways, but not fewer shots. His record is impressive no matter how I try to slice it up.
2) I don't really care where we are in the year. He's been impressive and he's on a hell of a run. I'm not proclaiming him to be the best goalie of all time, nor have I seen anyone here do so.
3) What scouts think he'd do in an open system is irrelevant. It also doesn't matter if he's projected to be a pro goalie or not. He's playing college hockey, not professional hockey. And he's in a slow it down system, something that isn't going to change. (unless st. cronin can tell me that Wisconsin is planning on running and gunning soon, which I don't think likely) Tommie Frazier couldn't operate a west coast offense and he was never going to the NFL. He won a couple of national titles.
4) You keep saying "Wait until the season ends. . ." Who cares? We all have brains enough here to understand that the performence now means nothing until the playoffs start. But we can appreciate solid performences until then. I guess you're saying if a Gopher were lighting things up through 20 games, you wouldn't speak highly of him because, well, ya know, he hasn't proven anything yet. BS.
1-They are on a roll, see #4
2-See post #29 in this thread
3-If he had something behind him that said that, I would agree, this is first year as a starter however.
4-Guess you don't know me that well, look through the thread, the Gophers were the #1 team preseason, did I pound my chest about that? Again, it's a long season, I've seen it happen several times in a row now, it's about who's hot in the last part of the year and it's about getting a good seed in the NCAA's, that's all it's about. Until then I just like to watch hockey and cheer for the Gophers, but don't mistake me just for a homer, I've seen quite a few of these kids play before they have went off to the different WCHA schools, including a captain at Wisco that I know very well from the Bloomington system. My dislike is for UND, Wisco is just a minor irritant.
st.cronin
11-21-2005, 10:48 PM
Actually, it's not just this year. Elliott, as the backup, had as many shutouts as Bruckler last year (3 apiece), and vastly better stats (granted he generally didn't start against Minnesota or CC or Denver).
st.cronin
11-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Also, working for a sports bar, I guess I probably saw more than half of Parise's college games. I assume a Gopher fan probably has not seen Elliott play more than once or twice, if that.
sovereignstar
11-25-2005, 07:54 PM
Gophers up 4-2 against the top-ranked Wolverines after one period. Kessel with a goal and two assists.
Sublime 2
11-26-2005, 12:46 PM
BU downs back to back champs Denver last night 1-0.
They play CC tonight, who lost a tough one to UMASS despite outshooting them 45-24 (or so...not positive).
UMass has been very impressive lately, i think they've beaten 3 ranked opponents in a row. It was nice to see HE beat a few western teams.
st.cronin
11-29-2005, 01:11 PM
http://www.uscho.com/news/id,11273/BadgersHitNo1With12GameUnbeatenStreak.html
BishopMVP
11-29-2005, 02:57 PM
BU downs back to back champs Denver last night 1-0.
They play CC tonight, who lost a tough one to UMASS despite outshooting them 45-24 (or so...not positive).
UMass has been very impressive lately, i think they've beaten 3 ranked opponents in a row. It was nice to see HE beat a few western teams.First time in program history UMass beat 3 straight ranked opponents. Then we lost 4-0 to Denver the next night, but still a great week. The goalies, especially freshman Jon Quick, kept the team afloat until the offense finally started to score a few goals. It's just too bad they had to do it over Thanksgiving break when most students were home. Interestingly, UVM stayed at #5 and CC moved up a spot to #2 despite our wins over them. Hopefully we can carry over some of the success into next weekend vs. Merrimack and BC.
Sublime 2
11-29-2005, 05:04 PM
Hopefully you completely crush BC...they way you've been playing lately Merrihack won't be a problem at all.
BishopMVP
11-30-2005, 02:03 AM
Hopefully you completely crush BC...they way you've been playing lately Merrihack won't be a problem at all.Spoke too soon. Merrimack 1 UNH 0 :eek: Nice to see ex-Umass assistant Dennehy get his first HE win. They won't be coming often.
Sublime 2
11-30-2005, 09:18 AM
All of HockeyEast seems to be sooo schizo this year. I don't know whats more stunning a about the UNH vs Merrimack game, the fact that Merrimack won or the fact that UNH didn't score at all.
Cards4ever
12-02-2005, 08:18 AM
Some people still don't get it, I would be happy that I helped my PWR, others are happy about being rated #1 in November. That being said, nice wins by Wisco, I had a feeling the WCHA would take 3 out of the 4 at the Michigans(with the Gophers losing at Michigan).
Cards4ever
12-03-2005, 02:37 AM
Also, working for a sports bar, I guess I probably saw more than half of Parise's college games. I assume a Gopher fan probably has not seen Elliott play more than once or twice, if that.
I haven't been able to sign on to answer this, I've seen him quite a few times this year, I have the Fox Sports pack and they pick up quite a few of the cheese head games, I've also got UW sources that know the team well.
Wisco beats the Gophers tonight 4-3, Gophers try for the split tonight. Lots of PWR factors here if the Gophers get swept.
st.cronin
12-03-2005, 10:20 PM
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/boxes/mminwis1.d03
Brian Elliott saves 32, gets his second shutout of the year.
Kessell's Karma!
TroyF
12-03-2005, 10:49 PM
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/boxes/mminwis1.d03
Brian Elliott saves 32, gets his second shutout of the year.
Kessell's Karma!
It's early December. The game means nothing. Elliott sucks horribly. You are just too damned stupid to see it. Get your head out of your ass and pay attention. Moron.
Ok, now that I think I got the post I'm sure you are going to get out of the way. . . .
DU sweeps CC.
Heard the DU coach on the radio the other day, they asked him about Wisconsin. He said they were a good veteran team and that he isn't at all surprised by their success this year. He was asked if he thought they'd be able to stand up to the Gophers this weekend and he said they matched up well with the Gophers.
st.cronin
12-03-2005, 10:50 PM
It's early December. The game means nothing. Elliott sucks horribly. You are just too damned stupid to see it. Get your head out of your ass and pay attention. Moron.
Ok, now that I think I got the post I'm sure you are going to get out of the way. . . .
DU sweeps CC.
Heard the DU coach on the radio the other day, they asked him about Wisconsin. He said they were a good veteran team and that he isn't at all surprised by their success this year. He was asked if he thought they'd be able to stand up to the Gophers this weekend and he said they matched up well with the Gophers.
The Gophers real problem is Kessell. Kessell violated every rule of karma when he decided to attend Minnesota in order to be with his girlfriend.
My prediction: Denver 3peats.
timmae
12-03-2005, 11:31 PM
Very impressive win for the Badgers tonight... I was impressed by some of the passing in their zone and by the deep zone defense. It seemed as tho the Gophers were taken out of their game all the way through... and Elliott was very good in goal again. I just want to see what attention Elliott will get if he keeps this up!!
timmae
12-03-2005, 11:33 PM
I must say I am also glad I had picked up tix for the minny games in Madison. Should be a very tough series over there!!
sovereignstar
12-04-2005, 12:11 AM
Should be a very tough series over there!!
All signs point to..
no
Cards4ever
12-04-2005, 01:54 AM
It's early December. The game means nothing. Elliott sucks horribly. You are just too damned stupid to see it. Get your head out of your ass and pay attention. Moron.
Ok, now that I think I got the post I'm sure you are going to get out of the way. . . .
DU sweeps CC.
Heard the DU coach on the radio the other day, they asked him about Wisconsin. He said they were a good veteran team and that he isn't at all surprised by their success this year. He was asked if he thought they'd be able to stand up to the Gophers this weekend and he said they matched up well with the Gophers.
Hmm, I always thought you were better than that Troy. I watch a lot of hockey and I know a lot of people in hockey, but no, I'm biased, I'm this, I'm that and yet I keep proving otherwise. Troy, save yourself the aggravation and just put me on ignore if you dislike me that much.
I never said Elliott sucked. I said he's a decent goalie on a run. I've also said he benefits from playing in front of a team that traps. To beat Wisconsin you need to get a couple goals up and force them to skate.
I do keep saying it's early, and it is. Look at the last 4 national champions, they all came from the WCHA, how many won the regular season title? People want to post polls and whatnot, go ahead, it's all about the Pairwise Ratings. This weekend Wisco did themselves well with the sweep of Minnesota, can't deny that. I'm all about finishing top 3 to avoid the play-in game at the Excel Center and getting a 1 seed in the NCAA, just need to beat up on some of the other teams since the Gophers failed to beat Wisco and I'm pretty sure a sweep is out of the question in Madison.
Cards4ever
12-04-2005, 01:56 AM
The Gophers real problem is Kessell. Kessell violated every rule of karma when he decided to attend Minnesota in order to be with his girlfriend.
My prediction: Denver 3peats.
What about the karma from all the kids that have gone to Wisco from Minnesota?
TroyF
12-04-2005, 02:37 AM
Hmm, I always thought you were better than that Troy. I watch a lot of hockey and I know a lot of people in hockey, but no, I'm biased, I'm this, I'm that and yet I keep proving otherwise. Troy, save yourself the aggravation and just put me on ignore if you dislike me that much.
I never said Elliott sucked. I said he's a decent goalie on a run. I've also said he benefits from playing in front of a team that traps. To beat Wisconsin you need to get a couple goals up and force them to skate.
I do keep saying it's early, and it is. Look at the last 4 national champions, they all came from the WCHA, how many won the regular season title? People want to post polls and whatnot, go ahead, it's all about the Pairwise Ratings. This weekend Wisco did themselves well with the sweep of Minnesota, can't deny that. I'm all about finishing top 3 to avoid the play-in game at the Excel Center and getting a 1 seed in the NCAA, just need to beat up on some of the other teams since the Gophers failed to beat Wisco and I'm pretty sure a sweep is out of the question in Madison.
You want it both ways. You come in here and blast Elliot and the Badgers and make sarcastic comments when they beat teams that suck. Then they beat "good" teams and well, that doesn't count, because it's November and all those other teams who won the conference failed and. . .
Yawn. I guess Wisconsin should make sure they tank a few games so they can finish second in the conference and have a prayer in the tournament. And maybe Elliott should realize that since he's just a "decent" goalie and that his hot streak can't last all year. Therefore, he should just say "screw it" and let in about two hundred goals so everyone knows how bad he sucks.
This isn't a "decent" run at this point for either Wisconsin or Elliott. This is a team that has zero losses in a conference where everyone else has three or more. This is a team that just wiped out the second best team in the conference twice on the road. No, they don't get any awards for that now, but to try and brush off what they've done with the "We'll see you in April" card is amusing to me.
st.cronin
12-04-2005, 08:14 AM
What about the karma from all the kids that have gone to Wisco from Minnesota?
I'm not aware of any player from Minnesota who verbally committed to not only the Head Coach of the Gophers, but also the AD (a close personal friend of his parents, long time season ticket holders), his friends ON the Gophers, and past Gopher stars playing professional hockey but still taking the time to mentor local talent, who then changed his mind at the last minute because he was afraid he would miss his girlfriend.
There might be one, though.
I'm actually not aware of any players on the current Badger roster from Minnesota that were even recruited by Minnesota.
sovereignstar
12-04-2005, 09:26 AM
I'm not aware of any player from Minnesota who verbally committed to not only the Head Coach of the Gophers, but also the AD (a close personal friend of his parents, long time season ticket holders), his friends ON the Gophers, and past Gopher stars playing professional hockey but still taking the time to mentor local talent, who then changed his mind at the last minute because he was afraid he would miss his girlfriend.
Don't be such a asshat. Kids are kids.
Cards4ever
12-04-2005, 11:29 AM
You want it both ways. You come in here and blast Elliot and the Badgers and make sarcastic comments when they beat teams that suck. Then they beat "good" teams and well, that doesn't count, because it's November and all those other teams who won the conference failed and. . .
Yawn. I guess Wisconsin should make sure they tank a few games so they can finish second in the conference and have a prayer in the tournament. And maybe Elliott should realize that since he's just a "decent" goalie and that his hot streak can't last all year. Therefore, he should just say "screw it" and let in about two hundred goals so everyone knows how bad he sucks.
This isn't a "decent" run at this point for either Wisconsin or Elliott. This is a team that has zero losses in a conference where everyone else has three or more. This is a team that just wiped out the second best team in the conference twice on the road. No, they don't get any awards for that now, but to try and brush off what they've done with the "We'll see you in April" card is amusing to me.
The point is Troy, no team in recent history has been able to sustain this kind of performance from early October to April. Who's saying they should tank anything? I saw the Gophers go through this exact same thing last year and ask fans of a UND team 2 years ago that had much more talent then either the Gophers did last year or the BADgers this year.
If you had read any of my other posts, you would see what I've said about PWR, instead you choose to focus on something I've never said. I've pointed to where someone else said that Elliott was a superstar, show me where I've said Elliott sucks.
On top of all that Troy, do you not mean what you say? I thought you were all done with College Hockey? Is your word worth anything?
Cards4ever
12-04-2005, 11:33 AM
I'm not aware of any player from Minnesota who verbally committed to not only the Head Coach of the Gophers, but also the AD (a close personal friend of his parents, long time season ticket holders), his friends ON the Gophers, and past Gopher stars playing professional hockey but still taking the time to mentor local talent, who then changed his mind at the last minute because he was afraid he would miss his girlfriend.
There might be one, though.
I'm actually not aware of any players on the current Badger roster from Minnesota that were even recruited by Minnesota.
Funny stuff st cronin! Especially the last paragraph, you don't think the Gophers wanted Tom Gilbert out of Bloomington Jefferson or Tom Gorowsky out of Centennial?
Sublime 2
12-04-2005, 12:42 PM
BU and BC split the battle for Commonwealth Ave. BC won on Friday 2-1 at BC and then BU won 6-2 last night at BU.
st.cronin
12-04-2005, 12:52 PM
Funny stuff st cronin! Especially the last paragraph, you don't think the Gophers wanted Tom Gilbert out of Bloomington Jefferson or Tom Gorowsky out of Centennial?
I remember Gilbert saying Wisconsin was the only school offered him a scholarship. Gorowsky I don't know about, but I don't remember him being recruited by Minnesota.
Cards4ever
12-04-2005, 01:25 PM
I remember Gilbert saying Wisconsin was the only school offered him a scholarship. Gorowsky I don't know about, but I don't remember him being recruited by Minnesota.
Being recruited and offered a scholarship are two different things. Especially in hockey, guys are told to spend time in the USHL and then they will be tendered. I don't begrudge Tom Gilbert for taking the Wisco offer, if a kid doesn't want to spend a year or two and has a solid offer, they should do what's in their best interests, but I can confirm there was interest by Minnesota.
Gorowsky was also recruited by Minnesota, but he had ties to Wisconsin, his Uncle played for Wisco and was on the 1981 National Championship team, again it's something you can't be upset about if you are a Gopher fan.
Now, lets see what Kessel's ties to Minnesota are, played on the Minnesota Blades with Stoa and Frazee, plays with Stoa and Frazee on USNTDP and then wants to play College Hockey with them. He also was very close to Mark Johnson who was passed over for the the UW job, the Skille's and the Kessels have a strong dislike for each other. So, if you want to dislike Kessel for coming to Minnesota, that's fine, but as sovereignstar said, they are kids and sometimes you just can't figure out what makes them decide to go somewhere.
TroyF
12-04-2005, 01:57 PM
The point is Troy, no team in recent history has been able to sustain this kind of performance from early October to April. Who's saying they should tank anything? I saw the Gophers go through this exact same thing last year and ask fans of a UND team 2 years ago that had much more talent then either the Gophers did last year or the BADgers this year.
If you had read any of my other posts, you would see what I've said about PWR, instead you choose to focus on something I've never said. I've pointed to where someone else said that Elliott was a superstar, show me where I've said Elliott sucks.
On top of all that Troy, do you not mean what you say? I thought you were all done with College Hockey? Is your word worth anything?
I've watched about 2 periods of college hockey in the last five years. After DU got screwed over and then I watched the ridiculous non penalty call in OT of the championship game that year, I decided the sport wasn't worth my time to follow in an ongoing basis.
I treat it like baseball. I pay mild attention to it, but don't invest time or money into it. I just browsed this thread originally to see what was going on and was amused by your attitude towards a team and player having fantastic years. Nothing more, nothing less. It's good to see your are as pompous now as you were back then though.
Cards4ever
12-04-2005, 03:26 PM
I've watched about 2 periods of college hockey in the last five years. After DU got screwed over and then I watched the ridiculous non penalty call in OT of the championship game that year, I decided the sport wasn't worth my time to follow in an ongoing basis.
I treat it like baseball. I pay mild attention to it, but don't invest time or money into it. I just browsed this thread originally to see what was going on and was amused by your attitude towards a team and player having fantastic years. Nothing more, nothing less. It's good to see your are as pompous now as you were back then though.
So, what you accuse me of, is really what you are doing, having it both ways. Even st cronin doesn't seem to have the issues with me that you have. Just put me on ignore Troy, it really won't bother me and it will save you from my pompous opinions.
Cards4ever
12-09-2005, 11:02 PM
Crazy night in the WCHA, Denver and CC win on home ice, UND and Wisco get beat at home.
Cards4ever
12-11-2005, 05:55 PM
Minnesota sweeps UND, Wisco splits, and both Denver and CC lose on home ice, crazy weekend in the WCHA, I think it speaks volumes for what a quality conference it is. Maybe another year where the Frozen 4 is all WCHA.
st.cronin
01-14-2006, 10:51 PM
http://collegehockeystats.net/0506/boxes/mcc_wis1.j14
:eek:
We almost went to this game...
Craptacular
01-14-2006, 11:34 PM
Damn, what a spanking. I watched some of last night's game (including the end), but was watching the NFL games tonight.
Cards4ever
01-15-2006, 02:05 AM
With the sweep of CC and MN losing tonight I think that pretty much locks up the conference for Wisco(barring an unforseen sweep in 2 weeks in Madison by MN). Wisco is pretty much a lock for the overall No 1 seed in the Tourney.
Cards4ever
01-19-2006, 06:30 PM
Elliott out for 3 to 4 weeks
http://www.uscho.com/news/id,11639/UWNetminderElliottInjuredInPracticeStatusUnknown.html
sovereignstar
01-19-2006, 09:53 PM
Shit, that could make the next weekend's series a close one. :P
Cards4ever
01-19-2006, 11:20 PM
I don't think it makes a difference in a series so much as it might make a difference if their #1 Goalie isn't in good shape as we start to wind down to the Tourney. I think they could play .500 hockey the rest of the way and still end up with a 1 Seed, but, slip too much and they may end up playing Michigan in GB and that will split the crowd in half.
Craptacular
01-20-2006, 11:40 PM
Denver beats UW 1-0. Looks like Connelly played pretty well, but the offense couldn't muster anything. They still have a 6-point lead in the WCHA over both Denver and Minn, but you would think another loss tomorrow would really shake the team's confidence with the Gophers coming to town.
st.cronin
01-20-2006, 11:47 PM
Denver beats UW 1-0. Looks like Connelly played pretty well, but the offense couldn't muster anything. They still have a 6-point lead in the WCHA over both Denver and Minn, but you would think another loss tomorrow would really shake the team's confidence with the Gophers coming to town.
I believe Connelly is just 18 years old, young for a college freshman. The good news is he is getting some early pressure experience, and Elliott should be back for the postseason - remember, he played VERY well in his start against UAA in last year's playoffs.
timmae
01-21-2006, 02:47 PM
great game by the Denver goalie last night... a few amazing saves, one of which was out of this world (sprawled on the ice, stuck his leg straight up in the air and deflected the puck). Wisconsin came out and played an awesome first period and got nothing to show for it. Not sure if that affecte dthem the rest of the way but they didn't seem like they had the same energy. Have to be impressed with 2 15,000+ crowds this weekend and again next weekend (of which I have 4 tix to the Friday game against the gophers, yay!!). Hopefully the team bounces back tonight..
Cards4ever
01-21-2006, 10:00 PM
Denver beats UW 1-0. Looks like Connelly played pretty well, but the offense couldn't muster anything. They still have a 6-point lead in the WCHA over both Denver and Minn, but you would think another loss tomorrow would really shake the team's confidence with the Gophers coming to town.
Conference title means nothing, it's the #1 Seed you want. Wisco can go .500 the rest of the way and still get the 1 seed. What you don't want is Michigan being the 2 seed in the GB regional. Follow along people! :D
As far as that injury goes, it's really hard to say what's wrong with Elliott. I know I took a lot of heat about this in December, but it's all about getting hot and peaking in March and April. Maybe this is Denver starting to get hot, we'll know more as the next few weekends play out.
st.cronin
01-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Conference title means nothing, it's the #1 Seed you want. Wisco can go .500 the rest of the way and still get the 1 seed. What you don't want is Michigan being the 2 seed in the GB regional. Follow along people! :D
As far as that injury goes, it's really hard to say what's wrong with Elliott. I know I took a lot of heat about this in December, but it's all about getting hot and peaking in March and April. Maybe this is Denver starting to get hot, we'll know more as the next few weekends play out.
Denver scares me more than any team in the WCHA.
Bruckler had minor injuries the last two years right around this time, as well. I'm not saying the injury isn't real, or potentially serious, but it's kind of 'cute' how it coincides with exactly when Connelly was ready to play.
Sublime 2
01-21-2006, 10:29 PM
A nice convincing win over a terrible Merrimack team tonight 5-0 after last nights 5-3 win over the same team.
Cards4ever
01-22-2006, 10:32 AM
After looking at the PWR comparisons I'd now say it would take about .250 record for Wisco to lose the #1 Seed. Just have to stay healthy and build back up to a peak.
Minnesota sure could use Hagemo back, but that looks very unlikely.
DeToxRox
01-23-2006, 01:12 PM
2006 Hobey Baker Predictions from hockeysfuture.com
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=8256&mode=threaded&order=0
1. Brian Elliott, G
Junior, University of Wisconsin
NHL Rights: Ottawa Senators
One of the questions that was raised during the offseason as far as the Wisconsin Badgers were concerned was how would Brian Elliott fare as the new starting goaltender. The Newmarket, Ontario native has not only answered the call, but has already begun to rewrite the Wisconsin hockey history books. Over the years, Wisconsin has produced some top-flight goaltenders that have gone on to the NHL, including Mike Richter and Curtis Joseph. Elliot could become the latest Badger to join them in the not-so-distant future.
Elliott’s numbers are incredible to say the least. He has an 18-2-2 record that includes three shutouts, and leads the nation with an astounding .864 winning percentage. Elliott ranks second in the nation both in goals against average (1.40) and save percentage (.944). Perhaps the most remarkable statistic of all is the fact that he has allowed three or more goals in just two of his starts. Elliott also backstops the nation’s top defensive team that has allowed just 23 total goals in 22 games (lowest in the nation). All of this accomplished by the player taken next to last in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft.
Elliott has already eclipsed the Wisconsin school records in career goals against average and save percentage. He is also closing in on Wisconsin’s single season shutout record, needing just one more to tie it.
The methodical and modest Elliott has earned numerous accolades for his brilliant performances this season. Among them were being named the CSTV/Hockey Commissioners Association’s National Player of the Month back in November after leading the Badgers to a near-perfect 7-0-1 record and garnering four WCHA Defensive Player of the Week honors.
2. Brett Sterling, LW
Senior, Colorado College
NHL Rights: Atlanta Thrashers
At the end of last season, Brett Sterling was one of the three players chosen for the 2005 Hobey “Hat Trick” only to finish as runner-up to teammate Marty Sertich. This season, things could end the other way around.
The small, speedy winger has picked up right where he left off last season. Sterling currently ranks third in the nation in scoring with 38 points (22 goals, 16 assists). His 22 goals lead the nation while his 11 power play tallies and 0.85 goals per game co-lead the nation. Sterling also ranks sixth in the nation in points per game (1.46).
Entering play this coming weekend, Sterling has accumulated 99 career goals. His next goal will put him in some elite company in the Colorado College record books, as he’ll become just the fifth player (and the first in about a decade) in the program’s 66-year history to amass 100 or more career goals.
The Pasadena, CA native was named the CSTV/Hockey Commissioners Association’s National Player of the Month for October after posting at least a point in all eight games, capping off the month with his second career hat trick (along with an assist) to help lead Colorado College to a 7-3 victory over Minnesota State-Mankato back on October 29th.
3. Ryan Potulny, C
Junior, University of Minnesota
NHL Rights: Philadelphia Flyers
On a Minnesota team loaded with outstanding talent (14 of which are current NHL prospects), Ryan Potulny has had no trouble making his presence felt. The Grand Forks, ND native isn’t just putting up points this year. He is doing it with remarkable frequency and in bunches. To date, he has had nine multi-point games this season as well as four multi-goal games. In his 24 games, there have been only six games where he didn’t tally a point. All of those games ended in either ties or losses for Minnesota.
The offensively explosive Potulny currently ranks tied for sixth in the nation in scoring with 33 points (19 goals, 14 assists). Where Potulny has really been force has been on the Golden Gophers top-ranked power play. Of the 19 goals that he has scored, 11 have come with the man-advantage. Potulny’s 19 overall goals rank second in the nation, while his 11 power play tallies co-lead the nation.
One of Potulny’s most memorable performances came back on November 25th versus Michigan in the College Hockey Showcase. In the contest, he netted his second career hat trick to help lead Minnesota to a 6-3 win. Potulny has been named WCHA Offensive Player of the Week twice this season and was named to the Dodge Holiday Classic’s All-Tournament and earning the tournament’s MVP honor back on December 30th.
4. Matt Carle, D
Junior, University of Denver
NHL Rights: San Jose Sharks
The reigning national champion Denver Pioneers went through some very significant roster changes during the offseason and nowhere were the changes felt more this season than on defense. With the graduation of Nick Larson and Matt Laatsch along with the early departure of Brett Skinner, the task of leading the crimson and gold’s defense fell to junior Matt Carle.
The Anchorage, AK native currently leads the nation in scoring among defensemen with 33 points (11 goals, 22 assists). His 11 goals also lead all defensemen. He ranks second among defensemen in points per game (1.38). He also leads Denver in points, shots (106) and plus/minus (+9).
In last Saturday’s 5-1 win over St. Cloud State, Carle became the 89th player in the program’s history to join the Pioneer Century Club (players with 100 or more career points). He is on pace to make a serious run at breaking the Pioneers single-season record for points and assists by a defenseman. The current single season points record is 54, while it is 40 in the assist category.
The offensively talented defenseman has garnered two WCHA Defensive Player of the Week honors for the weeks of December 5th and 12th. Carle’s most memorable performance thus far this season came on the weekend of December 2nd versus archrival Colorado College, when he had seven assists in the two-game series.
5. Alex Foster, LW
Sophomore, Bowling Green State University
NHL Rights: Undrafted
If there were one reason to watch the Bowling Green Falcons this season, it would be to catch the exciting sophomore dynamo Alex Foster.
Foster, the son of former NHLer Dwight Foster, is enjoying a sensational season that seems to just get better every week. He currently leads the nation in scoring with 40 points. Foster’s 32 assists also lead the nation. He ranks second in assists per game (1.28) and is ranked fourth in points per game (1.60). Foster has had multiple points in 14 of the 25 games he has played in thus far. His outstanding numbers are made even more impressive by the fact that he has tallied at least a point in all but three games this season. Foster is currently on a torrid 11-game point streak.
Foster, along with fellow sophomore Jonathan Matsumoto (who is eligible for the NHL Draft this year) and senior Mike Falk give the Falcons one of, if not the most lethal line combination in the CCHA. The trio accounts for nearly 37 percent (36.8) of the Falcons total point production.
Among the many accolades that Foster has received, include being named the CCHA’s Offensive Player of the Month for November after posting 18 points (4 goals, 14 assists) during the month. He was also the MVP of the Toyota UConn Holiday Classic, posting four points (all assists) to help lead BGSU to the tournament championship back on December 30th.
6. Scott Parse, LW
Junior, University of Nebraska-Omaha
NHL Rights: Los Angeles Kings
When the Los Angeles Kings drafted Scott Parse after his freshman season in the summer of 2004, few outside of the Nebraska-Omaha community knew who he was. Today, Parse may be one of college hockey’s most underrated forwards. He is making a very strong case for CCHA Player of the Year, despite some heavy competition coming from Bowling Green’s Foster.
The offensively gifted left-winger currently ranks second in the nation with 39 points (12 goals, 27 assists) and in points per game (1.62). He leads Nebraska-Omaha in several categories including points, assists, shorthanded goals (2) and plus/minus (+15). Parse has tallied at least one point in all but four games this season. One of the more intriguing aspects about Parse’s statistics is the fact that he alone accounts for nearly one-quarter of the entire Mavericks team assists total.
Last season, Parse set several school single-season records, including points (49) and assists (30). This season, he is on pace to break his own records and set some new school career records as well. His 123 current career points and 76 career assists both rank him second in the program’s history. The Portage, MI native needs 22 more points and just five more assists to set new school records in each category.
7. Marty Sertich, C
Senior, Colorado College
NHL Rights: Undrafted
The winner of the 2005 Hobey Baker Award looks to be making another strong run to make it two in a row, a feat that has never been achieved in the history of the award. Colorado College team captain Marty Sertich is enjoying another outstanding season that is made even more extraordinary by the fact that he lost his mother to cancer last May.
The superb playmaking Sertich ranks second on the team and fourth in the nation in scoring with 35 points. His 24 assists lead the Tigers. Sertich is currently in the midst of an eight-game point streak, the longest of the season. His most memorable performance of the season came in the Great Lakes Invitational back on December 29th and 30th when he helped lead the Tigers to the tournament championship. He was one of four Colorado College players named to the All-Tournament team.
The Roseville, MN native is currently Colorado College’s “iron man” and is the lone senior on the roster who has played in every game since arriving in Colorado Springs three seasons ago. Coming into this weekend, Sertich has played in 150 consecutive games for the Tigers.
8. Chris Collins, LW
Senior, Boston College
NHL Rights: Undrafted
Of the losses that Boston College suffered this past offseason, none were bigger than that of Patrick Eaves. His tremendous offensive production and leadership were two qualities that were missed. This season, those same qualities can be found in alternate captain, senior Chris Collins. The Fairport, NY native has been a key component in driving the predominantly young Eagles to the top of the Hockey East standings thus far.
Collins currently leads Boston College as well as Hockey East in scoring with 29 points (17 goals, 12 assists). His 17 goals are a new career high. Where Collins has been particularly dangerous has been on special teams. Of his 17 goals, five have come on the power play and four have come shorthanded. His four shorthanded tallies co-lead the nation.
Collins most memorable performance came back on the weekend of December 9th and 10th versus UMass, when he recorded his first career hat trick. He earned Hockey East’s Player of the Month honor for December after tallying at least a point in five of Boston College’s six games during the month.
9. Reid Cashman, D
Junior, Quinnipiac University
NHL Rights: Undrafted
Despite their current 4-11-0 record in conference play, the Quinnipiac Bobcats’ transition from the Atlantic Hockey conference to the ECACHL has been relatively smooth. One Bobcats player who has had no trouble adjusting to the new league is dynamic offensive defenseman Reid Cashman. The Red Wing, MN native, who captured the Atlantic Hockey Player of the Year honor last season, was also a top ten finalist for the Hobey Baker award. This year, he looks to be a prime candidate again.
Cashman currently ranks fourth in the nation in scoring among defensemen with 28 points (two goals, 26 assists). He also ranks third among all defensemen in points per game (1.28). His 26 assists ranks third overall in the nation. Like Denver’s Matt Carle, Cashman also leads his team in scoring. In ECACHL play, Cashman leads in the league in overall assists (16) and scoring among all defensemen with 17 points (one goal, 16 assists).
One of Cashman’s most memorable performances thus far came in the Quinnipiac Cup (Q-Cup) Tournament back in October. In the tournament, he racked up five points (one goal, four assists) and was named to the All-Tournament Team as well as honored as the tournament MVP. Most recently, Cashman was named a finalist for the New Haven Register’s 2005 Sports Person of the Year.
10. T. J. Hensick, C
Junior, University of Michigan
NHL Rights: Colorado Avalanche
Michigan (along with Minnesota-Duluth) was a team that went through massive personnel changes during the offseason. With the changes came the need for some new leadership and one player that the Wolverines turned to was the electrifying junior and alternate captain T. J. Hensick. The Howell, MI native currently leads Michigan in scoring with 30 points (10 goals, 20 assists). In addition to points, Hensick also leads the team in assists and shots (69). His ten goals, which include five power play tallies, are both tied for first on the team.
Back on December 29th versus Colorado College in the Great Lakes Invitational, Hensick reached a milestone when he played in his 100th career game. He is also on target to reach another milestone as he needs just four assists to move into Michigan’s top 25 career assists list. Hensick currently has 86 career assists.
Hensick has been a relatively consistent performer this season for Michigan. He has tallied points in 15 of his 22 games this season. Of the 15 games that he has tallied at least a point in, ten were multi-point games. His best outing of the season thus far came back on October 16th versus non-conference opponent Merrimack. In the contest, Hensick tied a career-high four points (one goal, three assists) to lead the Wolverines to a 9-2 victory.
Honorable Mentions
Kevin Croxton, F
Senior, RPI
NHL Rights: Undrafted
The Calgary, Alberta native has been superb in leading the Engineers as well being one of the team’s go-to guys this season. It is a feat made even more impressive by the fact that RPI is missing one of their top forwards in Kevin McDonald, who has taken a medical redshirt this season. Croxton currently leads RPI and the ECACHL in scoring with 30 points (11 goals, 19 assists). He was named a hockey Commissioners Association National Player of the Month honorable mention for October after posting 14 points (five goals, nine assists) during the month.
Joe Fallon, G
Sophomore, University of Vermont
NHL Rights: Chicago Blackhawks
The 2005 draft selection of the Chicago Blackhawks has been one of, if not the biggest reason behind Vermont’s successful transition to the always-competitive Hockey East conference. The Bemidji, MN native currently sports a 13-5-2 record. Of his 13 wins, six have come by shutout. Fallon’s six shutouts lead the nation. He also ranks third in the nation in goals against average (1.48) and is tied for ninth in save percentage (.926).
Andy Greene, D
Senior, University of Miami (OH)
NHL Rights: Undrafted
One of the most pleasant surprises of the 2005-06 season thus far is the performance of Miami, who currently sit atop the CCHA standings and is ranked third in this week’s national polls. One of the stalwarts behind the RedHawks early success is excellent senior defenseman and team captain Andy Greene. The Trenton, MI native currently leads his team in scoring with 18 points (seven goals, 11 assists). His 11 assists also co-lead the team.
Jamie Hunt, D
Junior, Mercyhurst College
NHL Rights: Undrafted
During an interview with Hockey’s Future prior to the start of the season, one of the players that head coach Rick Gotkin said he wanted to get more production out of this season was junior defenseman Jamie Hunt. The Calgary, Alberta native has answered the call in a big way. The offensive-minded defenseman currently leads all Atlantic Hockey players in scoring with 32 points (seven goals, 25 assists). He also leads the nation overall in points per game (1.68), while his 32 points rank second in the nation among defensemen.
Paul Stastny, C
Sophomore, University of Denver
NHL Rights: Colorado Avalanche
With the losses of key players such as Jon Foster, Luke Fulghum and Kevin Ulaski to graduation, one of the players being relied upon to carry the offense this season in Denver is sophomore sensation Paul Stastny. Last year’s WCHA Rookie of the Year has gotten off to a very good start that is likely to get better as the season moves towards the WCHA and NCAA playoffs. Stastny currently is second on the Pioneers roster with 31 points (six goals, 25 assists). His 25 assists, along with his 55 penalty minutes lead the team.
st.cronin
01-24-2006, 12:02 PM
I don't know what the Wisconsin career shutout record is, but Elliot has to have an outside shot at that record as well.
Cards4ever
01-28-2006, 01:19 AM
Even after tonights loss Wisco holds on to the #1 overall seed in PairWise and the Gophers stay at #3. More important, Minnesota looks to be a cinch to be in the top 3 meaning no play-in game if they make the WCHA Final 5.
Sublime 2
01-28-2006, 03:32 AM
Not only did BU break BC goalie, Schneider's, shutout streak but they also beat the #1 team in the nation 4-3. It was a great game coming back from down 2-0! I wish i could've been there in person but watching on NESN was just as good!! The win shoots up BU into a possible 1 seed in the PWR (showing just how nuts the PWR is at this time of year) after being "out of the bracket" in the previous PWR's. I'll be at tomorrow's game and hope there's no let down vs. UMass Amherst! BU wins the Battle for Comm. Ave until a possible BU vs BC Beanpot championship matchup!
ice4277
01-28-2006, 08:06 AM
Michigan and Michigan State tied 1-1 last night. Kind of fitting considering both teams' medicore play this season. They play again tonight at Joe Louis Arena, but I think they are just playing for playoff positioning now; little hope for either team to win the regular season title.
Cards4ever
01-28-2006, 06:28 PM
Not only did BU break BC goalie, Schneider's, shutout streak but they also beat the #1 team in the nation 4-3. It was a great game coming back from down 2-0! I wish i could've been there in person but watching on NESN was just as good!! The win shoots up BU into a possible 1 seed in the PWR (showing just how nuts the PWR is at this time of year) after being "out of the bracket" in the previous PWR's. I'll be at tomorrow's game and hope there's no let down vs. UMass Amherst! BU wins the Battle for Comm. Ave until a possible BU vs BC Beanpot championship matchup!
If I was BC I wouldn't mind this at all. Having a long winning streak is just more pressure. If BC wins tonight, having a split weekend(I realize that HE is different with the scheduling) isn't the worst thing in the world.
Sublime 2
01-29-2006, 02:40 PM
I agree, they are still the cream of the crop in Hockey East - no doubt. They are a great team and a top 5 team in the nation and the pressure was definetly building with their streak. I was just pumped about the win over those collar poppin' Maroon and Gold Eagles.
BU did finish a solid weekend with a win over UMass-Amherst last night. It was kind of a crappy game.
st.cronin
01-29-2006, 04:05 PM
I'm just curious - with Wisconsin being the undisputed #1 team in the country pre-Elliott injury, and not winning a single game post-Elliott injury, can we call Elliott a superstar goalie yet?
Cards4ever
01-29-2006, 07:44 PM
Nope, I still stand by my earlier opinion of benefitting from the system. Is he a good goalie, yes, a superstar, no. IMHO you are giving too much credit to the goalie. YMMV
sovereignstar
01-30-2006, 05:26 PM
Fuck Kessel
STFU
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Sublime 2
02-03-2006, 08:52 PM
BU continues it's nation long streak at 8 games!!! 5-1 rout of UML
mckerney
02-03-2006, 09:04 PM
Fuck Kesselhttp://gopherpucklive.com/image/Photos/01-28-06-Kessel3.jpg.
Fixed
sovereignstar
02-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Yeah, nice captain you've got there btw, st. cronin. Read that he was questioning the character of Kessel after he made the motions after his goal. What a dork.
Cards4ever
02-04-2006, 12:54 AM
I'd like to see Minnesota at the Ralph with UND out of the tourney, that would do my heart wonders! :D
Sublime 2
02-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Beanpot starts tonight at 5, BC vs. Northeastern then BU vs Harvard at 8. I'll be at both rooting for NU and BU!
Keep the streak alive, GO BU!!
sovereignstar
02-11-2006, 11:05 AM
Frozen Tundra Classic is today. Who's ready for some hockey at Lambeau Field?
Cards4ever
02-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Frozen Tundra Classic is today. Who's ready for some hockey at Lambeau Field?
You see what Jefferson did to Moorhead yesterday? And what's up with Moorhead coming in a pastel purple bus???
sovereignstar
02-12-2006, 12:35 PM
You see what Jefferson did to Moorhead yesterday? And what's up with Moorhead coming in a pastel purple bus???
Can't answer either of those. Don't have the paper and I can't find a score online. What happened? I'm assuming they got blown out from your wording. Interesting, since they manhandled Centennial on the road last weekend.
sovereignstar
02-12-2006, 12:44 PM
Okay, I see that they lost 6-1. That's tough, though I can't imagine it's too easy for a HS team to make two trips to the cities like that two weekends in a row.
timmae
02-13-2006, 12:47 PM
nice little article about the Wisco game this past weekend... and a slight mention of a certain #1 that will be back very, very soon;)
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2327427&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos2
Cards4ever
02-13-2006, 10:58 PM
Okay, I see that they lost 6-1. That's tough, though I can't imagine it's too easy for a HS team to make two trips to the cities like that two weekends in a row.
Can't argue with that, I think Moorhead is following the Duluth East formula, play lots of the metro teams before the tourney. Still don't understand the pastel purple bus though!
Sublime 2
02-13-2006, 11:08 PM
WHOO HOO!!! BU's 27th Beanpot out of 54 total tournaments! Awesome because it was over arch-nemesis Boston College and it keeps our nation's long streak alive (10 or 11 games...i forget now)!!
Sublime 2
02-14-2006, 01:54 AM
dola
What do you Midwest guys think of BU and BC's chances in the NCAA's this year? I'm fairly new (3 years) to college hockey and all my knowledge is based in the East, aside from some USCHO readings on the Midwest and Western schools.
Cards4ever
02-14-2006, 10:59 PM
Well, consider that 4 WCHA teams made the Frozen 4 last year and the WCHA has won the last 4 titles, I think the WCHA is still the best conference in College Hockey.
As far as BU and BC, well, we'll see what the matchups are when the pairings are set.
Cards4ever
02-26-2006, 08:39 PM
Minnesota clinches the WCHA this weekend with Denver splitting and Wisconsin getting swept on the road at Mankato.
Wisco fans better hope Elliott gets healthy and quick, or there will be no Frozen 4 for Wisco.
Cards4ever
03-04-2006, 01:42 AM
Last weekend of regular season play and it's that much closer to NCAA play, so, it's fun to start looking at potential brackets, here is what the bracket could look like if the end of the season was today
http://www.uscho.com/pdf/general/2006bracket.pdf
This link updates after each nights game.
Sublime 2
03-05-2006, 04:34 AM
BU goes 16-2-2 in their last 20 games to win the Reg. Season title, which was all but given to BC in January. First time in 6 years i think, but the Tourney Title would be a lot more! It appears that BU has all but locked up a #1 seed in the northeast region and sets them up well for a good NCAA showing!! GO BU!!!
Cards4ever
03-06-2006, 07:57 PM
Sublime, how about a synopsis of the BU team, some on the Gopher board are asking and I thought you could give a good one.
BishopMVP
03-07-2006, 03:45 AM
It appears that BU has all but locked up a #1 seed in the northeast regionAs long as they get by UMass to the Fleet ;) - otherwise none of the NE teams deserve a #1 seed. I think BU will win the series, but UMass will pick up a win, between our schizophrenic play and stellar goaltending.
Of the 3 HE teams, I'd say BC is the most talented, but they've been in a free-fall (since UMass beat them), and looking at the PWR, they are borderline to even make the NCAA tournament right now (luckily for them, they've drawn UVM, who have collapsed just as much.) Maine also has the potential to be the best team when they skate and crash the net, but too often appear lackadaisical and don't have Jim Howard to back them up this year. BU has been the most consistent team and certainly played the best over the past month, but I'm yet to be convinced they have the talent to go far in the tournament.
st.cronin
03-12-2006, 01:41 PM
Brian Elliott now holds the school single-season shutout record all by himself. I think he only needs two next year to set the career mark.
Cards4ever
03-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Brian Elliott now holds the school single-season shutout record all by himself. I think he only needs two next year to set the career mark.
Nice accomplishment, now onto one more weekend of warmup games until the real games begin.
Cards4ever
03-19-2006, 12:27 AM
Interesting projections for the NCAA tourney, the bids will be official tomorrow.
http://www.uscho.com/pdf/general/2006bracket.pdf
st.cronin
03-19-2006, 12:33 AM
Any chance Minny will come up with a real goalie this week?
Sublime 2
03-19-2006, 12:36 AM
WHOOOO! BU beats BC in OT to win their first Hockey East Championship since 97 I believe! This team is cruising right now! If the USCHO predictions are accurate, I'm a little irked...I don't want to see BC for the 6th time this year, despite our record against them (and assuming an 11 seed would knock of Cornell....no real clue who'd win but I think BC is uber-talented).
sovereignstar
03-19-2006, 01:14 AM
Gonna be in Grand Forks this Friday/Saturday. Should be fun!
Cards4ever
03-19-2006, 02:15 AM
Any chance Minny will come up with a real goalie this week?
Did you say the same thing about Wisco after Mankato took Elliott apart a couple of weekends ago?
Cards4ever
03-19-2006, 10:20 AM
Bids are official, here are the matchups:
Midwest Regional
No. 1 Wisconsin vs. No. 4 Bemidji State
No. 2 Cornell vs. No. 3 Colorado College
West Regional
No. 1 Minnesota vs. No. 4 Holy Cross
No. 2 North Dakota vs. No. 3 Michigan
East Regional
No. 1 Michigan State vs. No. 4 New Hampshire
No. 2 Harvard vs. No. 3 Maine
Northeast Regional
No. 1 Boston U. vs. No. 4 Nebraska-Omaha
No. 2 Miami vs. No. 3 Boston College
Sublime, saw the winning goal by BU, sweet goal.
Sublime 2
03-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Sublime, saw the winning goal by BU, sweet goal.
Yeah, that OT was scary. BC took it to BU the whole extra time until that goal! Johnny Curry saved the Terriers in that OT.
Anyone have a quick summary on the UNO and Miami squads? I'll be in Worcester on Friday and Saturday, so Hopefully I'll see BU move on to the Frozen Four!! This team has been verrry fun to watch, especially considering the previous 2 seasons I've seen.
sovereignstar
03-19-2006, 11:46 AM
No. 2 North Dakota vs. No. 3 Michigan
Bye bye Michigan...
MylesKnight
03-19-2006, 11:49 AM
How did Wisconsin get the overall #1?
MSU getting a #1 over Miami? Does one game mean more to the committee than the fact that the Redhawks won the CCHA going away?
And even more of a interesting topic, Nebraska-Omaha getting the bid over Northern Michigan and DU.
NMU tied for 4th with UNO and then swept them in the CCHA Playoffs.
Oh, and GO BEMIDJI!!
sovereignstar
03-19-2006, 11:58 AM
How did Wisconsin get the overall #1?
MSU getting a #1 over Miami? Does one game mean more to the committee than the fact that the Redhawks won the CCHA going away?
And even more of a interesting topic, Nebraska-Omaha getting the bid over Northern Michigan and DU.
NMU tied for 4th with UNO and then swept them in the CCHA Playoffs.
Oh, and GO BEMIDJI!!
It's all about the PairWise (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr.php)
MylesKnight
03-19-2006, 11:59 AM
So Colorado College was basically the last team in? Interesting.
sovereignstar
03-19-2006, 12:00 PM
So Colorado College was basically the last team in? Interesting.
I think so. If St. Cloud State would've beat UND last night in the Final Five, Colorado College would've been out.
MylesKnight
03-19-2006, 12:03 PM
I wonder if DU would've been in, minus the choke job in the WCHA 1st Round against UMD.
By the way, College Hockey followers, any idea on if/when/how the Alaska schools can compete nationally again?
st.cronin
03-19-2006, 02:30 PM
Did you say the same thing about Wisco after Mankato took Elliott apart a couple of weekends ago?
In all seriousness, why didn't Frazee get more playing time this year? My impression of Briggs is that he's inconsistent and unreliable (don't know if Minny fans see him the same way), whereas Frazee was very highly regarded. I honestly expected Frazee to get at least half the starts this year.
st.cronin
03-19-2006, 02:32 PM
I wonder if DU would've been in, minus the choke job in the WCHA 1st Round against UMD.
By the way, College Hockey followers, any idea on if/when/how the Alaska schools can compete nationally again?
That is something I have wondered about myself. I definitely think it's possible.
Cards4ever
03-19-2006, 04:22 PM
In all seriousness, why didn't Frazee get more playing time this year? My impression of Briggs is that he's inconsistent and unreliable (don't know if Minny fans see him the same way), whereas Frazee was very highly regarded. I honestly expected Frazee to get at least half the starts this year.
They alternated the first part of the year, Briggs won the job and then Frazee had some discipline issues on weekends where he was supposed to play. Briggs is seen as a streaky goalie, if you remember his first half last year he was unbeatable then because he was overplayed he slumped the second half.
Briggs does own the Minnesota shutout record for a Career.
st.cronin
03-19-2006, 04:23 PM
They alternated the first part of the year, Briggs won the job and then Frazee had some discipline issues on weekends where he was supposed to play. Briggs is seen as a streaky goalie, if you remember his first half last year he was unbeatable then because he was overplayed he slumped the second half.
Briggs does own the Minnesota shutout record for a Career.
I didn't know about that. Was that the underage drinking I heard about?
Cards4ever
03-19-2006, 04:24 PM
I wonder if DU would've been in, minus the choke job in the WCHA 1st Round against UMD.
By the way, College Hockey followers, any idea on if/when/how the Alaska schools can compete nationally again?
DU probably needed to win a game or two at the Final Five to make it in. Losing in their Xmas tourney to teams with low RPI hurt them significantally. As mentioned above, the Pairwise takes the whole season into account, it's not like basketball, these teams know what they have to do to get in, it's all laid out so everyone can see.
Tough to win at Alaska, it's part of the reason John Hill came back to Minnesota(as a Assistant). He felt the Admin up there was not committed to building a winning program.
Cards4ever
03-19-2006, 06:50 PM
I didn't know about that. Was that the underage drinking I heard about?
No, not one of the players that were involved with that faced any discipline(right or wrong, depending on perspective)for that issue.
Sublime 2
03-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Sublime, how about a synopsis of the BU team, some on the Gopher board are asking and I thought you could give a good one.
I'm not quite sure how I missed this and I know it's been a while since the question was asked but I just read a near-perfect summary of the BU team this year on the USCHO board...mind you these aren't my words but I do agree almost whole-heartedly:
1.) Defense has been the name of the game. Our D-men have been outstanding for the year, keeping the puck out of the slot, and cycling the puck along the boards. The shot totals are in the high 20's per game for opponents. Our forwards also do an excellent job of backchecking and poke checking.
2.) Balanced scoring, we have 9 guys with 20pts or more and another guy on the cusp with 18. We don't have any snipers on the team, but they are a hard-working bunch, that when rushing the net, can put in the finishing touches.
3.) Goaltending. John Curry has all the skill, aggressiveness, flamboyance, and intangibles that makes a team believe (although sometimes scared!) they can win night in and night out.
4.) Momentum and confidence. Beanpot champs. Hockey East regular season champs. Hockey East tournament champs. This has been the year for us, and these guys have been playing with poise and confidence for the past three months.
5.) One point against us is that we don't deal well with an aggressive trap. We have a tendancy to dump and chase when we get pressured and sometimes we tend to panic and play on our heels.
I would also add to this by saying that our 4th line is a very tough line, they love to hit and keep the puck in the offensive zone most of the time. Add that line to our solid 1-3 scoring lines and we have a good strong 4 lines. Hope this helps! GO BU!!!
sovereignstar
03-24-2006, 02:40 PM
Roses are red
Violets are blue
The Badgers suck
And so do the Sioux
http://the-dkbl.com/gophersbaby.jpg
Sublime 2
03-24-2006, 02:50 PM
It's time...BU vs UNO at 4pm and I unfortunately had to sell my ticket for the game. If they win though I'll be in Worcester to see BU vs Miami/BC!! I really don't wanna see BC again but if we do (that's if we win also) I can take solace in knowing we've beaten them 4 times this year.
Sublime 2
03-24-2006, 06:07 PM
BU cruises to a 9-2 victory over UNO in the opening round!
Cards4ever
03-24-2006, 07:16 PM
Holy Cross is playing Minnesota tough, 2-2 after 2.
DeToxRox
03-24-2006, 08:52 PM
Wow. What a win for Holy Cross. Unfuckingreal.
Cards4ever
03-24-2006, 09:21 PM
Go back through and read this thread, especially my comments about it being a long season and you need to peak at the right time. Minnesota peaked the weekend they won the McNaughton and even if they had found a way to win tonights game, they were in deep trouble tomorrow.
HC played like they wanted to win, Minnesota played like they were already in the Regional Final. No excuses, the team that came to play won.
sovereignstar
03-24-2006, 10:27 PM
Just endured one of the most gut wrenching experiences in my life. I had no idea what I was getting into. Holy Cross + thousands of UND fans = upset city. I knew the possibility was there that I would leave 1 game into the regional and it happened. Sucks about the fans and sucks that the Gophers played before UND, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Cards4ever
03-24-2006, 10:35 PM
Just endured one of the most gut wrenching experiences in my life. I had no idea what I was getting into. Holy Cross + thousands of UND fans = upset city. I knew the possibility was there that I would leave 1 game into the regional and it happened. Sucks about the fans and sucks that the Gophers played before UND, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Ah, that's not the reason the Gophers lost, but, I feel your pain. You'll have to come down to Mariucci next year and take in a game, we'll have some beers and look forward to April 07!
st.cronin
03-24-2006, 10:41 PM
Man, I really thought Minny was going to win it all this year.
Cards4ever
03-24-2006, 11:52 PM
Man, I really thought Minny was going to win it all this year.
Just so hard to tell, I would say MSU and BU are the teams to keep a eye on, they seem to be peaking at the right time. On the other hand, this years tournament is probably the most wide open I've ever seen it, some of these teams do have a chance, HC proved that today.
Sublime 2
03-25-2006, 01:04 AM
Just so hard to tell, I would say MSU and BU are the teams to keep a eye on, they seem to be peaking at the right time. On the other hand, this years tournament is probably the most wide open I've ever seen it, some of these teams do have a chance, HC proved that today.
I'm (BU) more scared about tomorrows matchup w/ BC than any other game I've witnessed. BC has the talent, no doubt about that, but if they have Collins and Schneider on tomorrow....OUCH! I (w/out knowing Miami really at all) would have rather seen Miami than BC. Though I know (and no one i know here are big BC fans) some BC ppl seem to think they have it locked up despite our 4-1 record against them, I'm praying for a big Curry night and huge Schneider disappointment!
timmae
03-25-2006, 02:08 PM
Roses are red
Violets are blue
The Badgers suck
And so do the Sioux
http://the-dkbl.com/gophersbaby.jpg
Oh snap!...
st.cronin
03-25-2006, 11:50 PM
http://www.uscho.com/recaps/20052006/m/03/25/bsu-uw.php
Brian Elliott extends his shutout record.
Cards4ever
03-26-2006, 12:10 AM
As I figured, when Minnesota lost, teams paid attention.
The rest of the Badgers also maintained focus. After watching Minnesota lose the previous night to fourth seed Holy Cross, the Badgers addressed the importance of maintaining focus as the top seeded team in the tournament.
"Everybody is here for a reason," Burish said. "If you look past a team early, they can hurt you just like Minnesota."
timmae
03-26-2006, 07:55 PM
elliot/mckee in an all out war... 0-0 in the 5th period. Wow, just wow...
Cards4ever
03-26-2006, 08:13 PM
Wisco is the last #1 seed left in hockey or basketball this year. I just heard that ESPNEWS is going to cover the game at the start of the 3rd OT.
Now, if these teams would just bring their d-men over the center line.
Also congrats to the Wisco women on beating Minnesota 3-0 in the Womens National Championship game.
timmae
03-26-2006, 08:41 PM
SKILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 111 min, 13 secs...
Cards4ever
03-26-2006, 08:43 PM
Go Hockey East!
bronconick
03-26-2006, 08:47 PM
Jesus, what a game. Has to be gut wrenching for Cornell. Two years in a row in OT.
Cards4ever
03-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Jesus, what a game. Has to be gut wrenching for Cornell. Two years in a row in OT.
I'm sure we will hear more complaining from the Cornell camp about getting sent West again.
It's setup for Wisco to win it, they have to be heavy favorites at this point.
st.cronin
03-26-2006, 08:54 PM
!
timmae
03-26-2006, 09:03 PM
to Milw we go!! That is gonna be a rough week... Motion City Soundtrack Apr 1, Clap your hands say yeah Apr 3, Wisco/Maine Apr 6, Anti Flag Apr 7 and hopefully a final for Wisco on Apr 8... I think I'll sleep about 24 hours straight on the 9th.
Sublime 2
03-26-2006, 09:18 PM
Go Hockey East!
I concur!!
st.cronin
04-05-2006, 12:33 PM
Superstar goalie?! That's a good one!
Elliott Named INCH Goaltender of the Year
MADISON, Wis. - Inside College Hockey has named junior Brian Elliott the 2005-06 Goaltender of the Year. Elliott leads the nation in every significant goaltending category including winning percentage (.803, 25-5-3), goals-against average (1.55), and save percentage (.938) while his eight shutouts are tied for the national lead.
A native of Newmarket, Ontario, Elliott was named to the “Hobey Hat Trick” last week, meaning that he is one of three players who may win the Hobey Baker Award when it is presented this Friday evening at the Bradley Center in Milwaukee, Wis. Elliott has already been honored by INCH this season, as he was named a first-team All-American last week. He was also the runner-up for INCH’s Player of the Year award.
Elliott is currently riding a three-game shutout streak that includes both games of the NCAA Midwest Regional. For his efforts in Green Bay, which included 40 saves in a 1-0 triple-overtime win over Cornell, Elliott was named the NCAA Midwest Regional Most Outstanding Player.
In all, Elliott has not allowed a goal in 252:15 of action, setting new UW and WCHA records. The string tops one of the oldest records in league history, besting the 249:41 set by North Dakota’s Gerald ‘Spike’ Schultz during the 1953–54 season.
With eight shutouts this season, Elliott has shattered the previous school record of four, and his 11 career shutouts are a school record as well. He is also on pace to break the school single-season and career records for goals-against average and save percentage.
Elliott is on pace to write his name in the NCAA record book, too. His career 1.56 goals-against average would rank third in NCAA history, while his .936 save percentage would rank fourth in NCAA history. With two shutouts in the NCAA tournament this year, Elliott has already tied the single-season and career record for shutouts in NCAA tournament games.
The WCHA goaltending champion, Elliott was also a five-time WCHA Defensive Player of the Week, the CSTV/Hockey Commissioners’ Association National Player for November, Badger Hockey Showdown MVP and a member of the 2006 WCHA All-Academic Team.
Elliott has been at his best this season against the top teams in the country. Against ranked opponents, he sports a 13-1-1 record, a 1.19 goals-against average, a .955 save percentage and five shutouts, coming against No. 1 Colorado College, No. 1 Minnesota, No. 4 Minnesota, No. 8 Cornell, and No. 19 St. Cloud State.
With five shutouts in his last eight games, Elliott has been stellar at the right time of the season, leading his team to its first NCAA Frozen Four since 1992.
DaddyTorgo
04-06-2006, 02:46 PM
bump for the Frozen Four.
BC 3 UND 0
2 for Collins and one for the freshman defender Motherwell. Eagles are dominating the scoresheet although UND has had the majority of the offensive possession.
I havn't been as big of an Eagles fan this year as I should have been but I would LOVE for them to win another National Title.
Sublime 2
04-06-2006, 03:51 PM
I havn't been as big of an Eagles fan this year as I should have been but I would LOVE for them to win another National Title.
If only to put all the Hockey East naysayers to rest, i agree. But just because of my complete hatred toward them, I'd much rather see Maine win!!
sovereignstar
04-06-2006, 03:52 PM
Go whoever the Sioux are playing against!
DaddyTorgo
04-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Sioux are playing BC sov.
and BC is up 5-2 after 2 periods.
DaddyTorgo
04-06-2006, 04:33 PM
dola
6-3 lead by BC with 6:46 to go in the game.
WOO!! "youngest team in the nation...average age just under 20" and we're gonna play for another national championship
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 05:03 PM
GAME ON.
Odd storyline. Badger coach Mike Eaves is known as a hyper-hard ass, somebody who makes Bobby Knight and Bill Parcells look like sweethearts. All of his sons refused to play for him, and actually ended up at ... Boston College.
How scary a guy do you have to be that your kids are afraid to play for you?:eek:
sovereignstar
04-08-2006, 05:05 PM
Think I'm gonna have to root for the Badgers for WCHA reasons and to make DaddyTorgo's Page 5 presence short-lived. :)
Though if the super-annoying Wisco fan makes a Page 5 appearance...
DaddyTorgo
04-08-2006, 05:08 PM
GAME ON.
Odd storyline. Badger coach Mike Eaves is known as a hyper-hard ass, somebody who makes Bobby Knight and Bill Parcells look like sweethearts. All of his sons refused to play for him, and actually ended up at ... Boston College.
How scary a guy do you have to be that your kids are afraid to play for you?:eek:
oh that's right. i had almost forgotten that Mike Eaves is the coach at Wisconsin. I mean I remembered he was a coach, but I forgot it was Wisconsin.
my page 5 presence short? Howso?
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 05:09 PM
I've been asking this question for 4 years, but what the hell does Ryan McMurchy do, exactly? What's the point of having him out there?
I don't expect an answer.
DaddyTorgo
04-08-2006, 05:24 PM
BC 1
Wisconsin 0
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 05:45 PM
Well played first period. The guys that have me the most nervous are Chris Collins, Cory Schneider, and Ryan McMurchy. Coach Eaves, the Big Mac has been killing you for four years - will you please bench him???
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 05:59 PM
Robbie Earl is such a fucking punk! :D
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 06:37 PM
Unbelievable game so far.
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 07:32 PM
Final Score:
Wisconsin 2, BC 1
BishopMVP
04-08-2006, 07:38 PM
Thank god. The only thing worse than another Western team winning would have been BC winning.
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Thank god. The only thing worse than another Western team winning would have been BC winning.
uh, Wisconsin IS a WCHA team ...
DaddyTorgo
04-08-2006, 07:42 PM
that boarding call was BS though. Not saying it changed the outcome of the game at all, but that's the point in a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game where the refs ought to stay out of all but the most egregious calls and let the players decide the game.
I missed the first half of the third period, but congrats to Wisconsin anyways. Bc looked immature and like they lacked composure there after they went down 2-1 so I have no problem saying Wisconsin deserved it.
sovereignstar
04-08-2006, 07:45 PM
uh, Wisconsin IS a WCHA team ...
That's a Badger fan for ya. :)
BishopMVP
04-08-2006, 07:45 PM
uh, Wisconsin IS a WCHA team ...I know.
DT - Did you watch any HE games this year? If only one call seemed ridiculous, that's amazing refereeing for college.
DaddyTorgo
04-08-2006, 07:46 PM
I know.
DT - Did you watch any HE games this year? If only one call seemed ridiculous, that's amazing refereeing for college.
oh i wasn't saying that was the ONLY ridiculous call. I'm just saying that one NEVER should have been called. it's akin to an NFL ref calling a 50+ yd pass interference call with under 2 minutes to go in a Superbowl FOR the team that is winning. It's too much of a "game deciding" call to have been made.
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 07:53 PM
I thought the refereeing was pretty solid. The game could have been called a little bit tighter, but I thought it was consistent.
BishopMVP
04-08-2006, 08:01 PM
oh i wasn't saying that was the ONLY ridiculous call. I'm just saying that one NEVER should have been called. It's too much of a "game deciding" call to have been made.I hear ya, I'm just saying that I saw calls like that over and over again this year, seemingly a player thrown out for boarding every other game, half on legitimate hits, so much that its par for the course and shouldn't be surprising.it's akin to an NFL ref calling a 50+ yd pass interference call with under 2 minutes to go in a Superbowl FOR the team that is winning.I don't know if the NFL playoffs are the best example to point too. ;) As a NE fan, I could probably make a plausible argument the refs cost us the Denver game, Seattle fans did make that argument after the Super Bowl, and of course there were the bizarre Polamalu and offsides/false start no-call incidents in the Indy-Pitt game.
st.cronin
04-08-2006, 08:18 PM
btw, I am verklemmpt.
BishopMVP
04-08-2006, 08:36 PM
btw, I am verklemmpt.Don't worry, it was confusing enough wording I had to go back and re-read it 3 times before I was sure I didn't write it wrong. ;)
Cards4ever
04-09-2006, 12:41 AM
I guess we'll never agree about Elliott. Have any of these guys from Cornell ever turned out to be superstars? How about Dubiecwicz from Denver? His team played the system to the T and he benefitted.
On Eaves, do you really endorse a coach using violence with a player like Eaves did up in Grand Forks?
Robbie Earl is the biggest diver in the WCHA, he probably leads the nation in that penalty.
The boarding call was legit, he was lucky he didn't get the 5 minute major for checking from behind.
The only question I would have about the reffing is, why was Shegos reffing another Wisco game after reffing both their regional games?
Congrats to Wisco, they needed another Minnesota boy to score them the goal to win it(a Bloomington product), otherwise from what I saw those 2 teams probably would still be playing. I'm sure it was pretty nerve racking for all those cheeseheads, especially when BC hit that pipe with 1.3 seconds left.
st.cronin
04-09-2006, 04:04 PM
I guess we'll never agree about Elliott. Have any of these guys from Cornell ever turned out to be superstars? How about Dubiecwicz from Denver? His team played the system to the T and he benefitted.
You're right, it's the system, that's why Connelly's numbers were almost as good:
Brian Elliott, Jr 35 27 5 3 55 2128 1.55 8 837 .938
Shane Connelly, Fr 9 3 5 0 23 512 2.69 1 177 .885
If you go back and look at Elliot's first two years in the 'system' his numbers were better than Bruckler's - and Bruckler was generally considered the best goalie in the WCHA.
On Eaves, do you really endorse a coach using violence with a player like Eaves did up in Grand Forks?
No, although there are two sides to every story. Eaves is pretty much the Bobby Knight of hockey - his good qualities are possibly outweighed by his bad qualities. Even with this title, he's not viewed particularly warmly in Madison.
Robbie Earl is the biggest diver in the WCHA, he probably leads the nation in that penalty.
duh
Congrats to Wisco.
Very gracious of you, thanks.
Cards4ever
04-09-2006, 04:18 PM
Well, good luck to him in Ottawa then, I imagine they will sign him and get him in to the system ASAP rather then playing college hockey.
st.cronin
04-09-2006, 04:37 PM
The more you talk, the better he plays! :D
Cards4ever
04-09-2006, 07:28 PM
You do realize that he will lose money if he doesn't sign this offseason right? Wouldn't it make sense for him to move on if he is the elite player you say that he is?
st.cronin
04-09-2006, 07:42 PM
You do realize that he will lose money if he doesn't sign this offseason right? Wouldn't it make sense for him to move on if he is the elite player you say that he is?
Dude, you are so retarded. If Elliott wasn't the best goalie in the NCAA this year, then who was? And if being the best goalie in the entire country at your level doesn't make him a superstar, I don't know what to tell you, except that you are a typical Gopher fan.
Cards4ever
04-09-2006, 07:56 PM
Dude, you are so retarded. If Elliott wasn't the best goalie in the NCAA this year, then who was? And if being the best goalie in the entire country at your level doesn't make him a superstar, I don't know what to tell you, except that you are a typical Gopher fan.
Is it possible to have a discussion with you without the insults?
He was the best goalie in the NCAA this year. I believe that to be a result of the system he played in, you don't. Is it really that hard to agree to disagree?
From what I was getting from your posts is that this guy is going to be the next Patrick Roy, especially when you keep saying Superstar. To me it would make sense for him to move on, wouldn't it? Potulny and Irmen both left for that reason and you are going to see some UND players leave in the coming weeks too, I would suspect that some Wisco players are in that position too.
Tell me, what is the typical Gopher fan? I happen to know plenty of people that have strong ties to Wisco hockey, so them winning doesn't create any burr under my saddle. Now if UND had won......
st.cronin
04-09-2006, 08:03 PM
From what I was getting from your posts is that this guy is going to be the next Patrick Roy, especially when you keep saying Superstar..
I've never even remotely implied that. The only goalies I've compared to are Bruckler and Briggs.
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