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vtbub
10-18-2005, 04:14 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=myturnarootcausefortripp&prov=tsn&type=lgns

My impression of him just dropped.

FYI, I don't find Curb Your Enthusiasm funny either

Ramzavail
10-18-2005, 04:19 PM
get in the back of the line pal, I've been saying it for years.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
10-18-2005, 04:23 PM
I was all set to disagree with you, but geez, what in the heck was the point of that article? If it was to come off as a total ass then he certainly did the job.

kcchief19
10-18-2005, 04:30 PM
Someone's going to have to explain this to me.

JonInMiddleGA
10-18-2005, 04:43 PM
I'm afraid I'm in the same boat with KC here. I saw the column yesterday, and while I thought it was poorly written & disjointed at best, I pretty much attributed that to him being in a situation of needing to write a column to satisfy some agreement even though he: a) wasn't in the mood to write one, and b) isn't a writer by trade (AFAIK).

WSUCougar
10-18-2005, 04:44 PM
That's pretty typical, dry Joe Buck writing, IMO. Personally, I don't see the big deal.

Fonzie
10-18-2005, 04:55 PM
That's pretty typical, dry Joe Buck writing, IMO. Personally, I don't see the big deal.
Ditto. I fail to see why anybody would find this column to be anything but inoffensive. At worst he was being a bit silly.

Raiders Army
10-18-2005, 04:56 PM
Joe Buck, the dude in the back of SI, they all suck. No sarcasm intended.

Raiders Army
10-18-2005, 04:57 PM
Dola,

Also, announcers are probably the highest paid, least performing people in the world.

cougarfreak
10-18-2005, 04:58 PM
On the coat tails of his daddy. His dad was good, Joe just plain sucks. And if he doesn't enjoy the travel and wants to whine and bitch about it, he should join the real work world.

JonInMiddleGA
10-18-2005, 05:08 PM
Also, announcers are probably the highest paid, least performing people in the world.

Straight up, knowing what I know about the job, I wouldn't trade with them for double their pay.

Doing it well at any level (and most certainly, there's plenty who don't) is probably the single most challenging thing I've ever attempted, at least in anything broadcast related (& that's at nearly the lowest possible level).
Add in the travel & the pressure, and I wouldn't swap with them.

Raiders Army
10-18-2005, 05:12 PM
Straight up, knowing what I know about the job, I wouldn't trade with them for double their pay.

Doing it well at any level (and most certainly, there's plenty who don't) is probably the single most challenging thing I've ever attempted, at least in anything broadcast related (& that's at nearly the lowest possible level).
Add in the travel & the pressure, and I wouldn't swap with them.
Fuck yeah I'd trade with them. Jeesus. Doing something you love for money? Sign me up.

It's horrible when you don't know who the players are. Especially in football. Do your fucking homework, it's only one game a week.

JonInMiddleGA
10-18-2005, 05:16 PM
Fuck yeah I'd trade with them. Jeesus. Doing something you love for money? Sign me up.

There's part of the rub -- when it goes from "love" to "job", the mood can quickly change. (Single biggest reason that I no longer do it, it became a chore not a pleasure).

Draft Dodger
10-18-2005, 05:26 PM
That's pretty typical, dry Joe Buck writing, IMO. Personally, I don't see the big deal.

yep.
he does a regular column for the Sporting News, and it's lousy. The first piece of his I read was about broadcast partner Troy Aikman. And even as a fluff it was lame.

I'll gladly listen to any game - football or baseball - that he's doing. But I think I'll keep skipping the articles.

Raiders Army
10-18-2005, 05:28 PM
There's part of the rub -- when it goes from "love" to "job", the mood can quickly change. (Single biggest reason that I no longer do it, it became a chore not a pleasure).
I understand what you're saying, but...

cry me a fucking river.

That's like billionaires whining about taxes.

JonInMiddleGA
10-18-2005, 05:36 PM
I understand what you're saying, but...
cry me a fucking river. That's like billionaires whining about taxes.

All I can say is, talk to me when you've done it. Until then, you really don't know what they're going through.

And if the tax rate is too high, they've got as much right to complain as anybody else.

Raiders Army
10-18-2005, 05:37 PM
I'm sure the janitor who cleaned my toilets at my high school said the same thing. :)

Antmeister
10-18-2005, 06:31 PM
I reread that article three times and while it was hard to follow at times, I didn't find anything that warranted me disliking him more. It just seemed to me that he was trying to write a witty article that didn't succeed too well, but I don't see any bad intentions however.

vtbub
10-18-2005, 07:33 PM
That's pretty typical, dry Joe Buck writing, IMO. Personally, I don't see the big deal.


I thought it was a bit too smug myself.

He shouldn't be a dry writer, he writes on the fly all the time, all annoucers do. They just do it out loud.

timmynausea
10-18-2005, 07:40 PM
I don't get the joke at the end. Unless he's implying that it's so Larry David of him because the column was as unreadable as he thinks Curb Your Enthusiasm is unwatchable. I'll give him the unreadable part.

kcchief19
10-18-2005, 08:41 PM
Straight up, knowing what I know about the job, I wouldn't trade with them for double their pay.

Doing it well at any level (and most certainly, there's plenty who don't) is probably the single most challenging thing I've ever attempted, at least in anything broadcast related (& that's at nearly the lowest possible level).
Add in the travel & the pressure, and I wouldn't swap with them. I abandoned a career in sports broadcasting pretty early on, before I even got out off college. I got enough of a flavor being around some of the broadcasters that went through MU when I was there and working at the bottom of the industry for a while.

It is not an industry that rewards talent. More than any other segment of journalism, sportscasting rewards people who are willing to take an incredible amount of abuse for very little pay. If you graduated today and went out to get a job in sportscasting, you're going to end in a small-market like cape Girardeau, Missouri working the weekend shift, which means you're working six days a week covering the scraps that the weekday anchor doesn't want to -- you're out shooting b-roll for high school tennis and editing the weekday anchors clips with no recognition, just getting yelled at when you screw up. Oh, and you're making about $18,000 a year working 50-60 hours a week. And it doesn't get much better for at least 15 years.

And the only way you're going to move up as a sportscaster is if you're willing to do everything you're asked without complaint, and preferrably volunteering to do it before you're asked. If the news director wants you to mop the floor or calls you at 3 a.m. and wants you to go shoot video of a car accident, you better do it.

As a result, half the people in sportscasting got the gig because they were willing to go the distance. Most talented people realize early on that there's a better way to make money and move on. And sometimes very talented people jump a few levels. It used to be a little easier, especially if you went the radio route. Bob Costas and Keith Olberman are great examples.

Rizon
10-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Joe Buck is a waste of air.

mauchow
10-18-2005, 08:46 PM
how does leaving an electronic device pose as a threat? Umm.. How? He's a genius.

MizzouRah
10-18-2005, 08:48 PM
I reread that article three times and while it was hard to follow at times, I didn't find anything that warranted me disliking him more. It just seemed to me that he was trying to write a witty article that didn't succeed too well, but I don't see any bad intentions however.
My thoughts exactly. What in the article is offensive? He dislikes Curb you Enthusiasm as much as I do. :)

I think it was all in fun, but came off dry.

ThunderingHERD
10-18-2005, 11:34 PM
Someone on fark once wrote a page-long post about how Joe Buck pissed in his(the poster's) gym shoes in prep school, depicting Buck as a chubby, spoiled bully. It was hilarious--unfortunately I can find it now.

mckerney
10-19-2005, 12:39 AM
Someone on fark once wrote a page-long post about how Joe Buck pissed in his(the poster's) gym shoes in prep school, depicting Buck as a chubby, spoiled bully. It was hilarious--unfortunately I can find it now.

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2005-01-13 10:41:08 AM NakedReporta [TotalFark]

This deserves repeating. From the World Series 2004 Game 4 thread:

Joe Buck Pissed In My Shoes
a short narrative by NakedReporta

Back when I was 11 and living in St. Louis, my parents decided I was too smart to be wasting my time in public schools and started seeking out private schools. The choice was eventually narrowed to two: John Burroughs and Country Day. I took the admittance test for each, but a kid I really hated from the public school I had attended was also trying to get into Burroughs, so I tanked that test.

Come fall, I was a seventh-grader at St. Louis Country Day School (known as CODASCO for short), whose famous alums include Vincent Price and John Danforth. And so began a year of sheer living hell. Most of the kids at CODASCO came from monied families, while I was this socially inept middle-class kid who wore the same Sears-bought suit every day. I was an immediate target.

One of my classmates was Joe Buck, the son of legendary Cardinals announcer Jack Buck. Joe was kind of a big, fat kid, but he had all the airs of social entitlement. Typical of the kind of stupid crap Buck would pull on me was to ask me if I "knew" my mother or to mock my attire. On more than one occasion, he was one of the ringleaders as five or six kids would decide to simultaneously throttle me.

But the final indignity came on a spring afternoon when we had gym class. We all changed into our standard-issue t-shirts and shorts and trotted out to the baseball field. All, that is, except Joe Buck, who bolted out of the locker room about a minute behind the rest. And when gym period was over, and we returned to the locker room, there were my Docksides-knockoff loafers, filled with the acrid stench of urine. Buck denied it, and the gym teacher didn't really give a shiat.

I had to wear my gym sneakers the rest of the day, then tearfully explain to my parents about what had happened. They decided to press the issue, and it culminated in Joe and his mom and my mother and I all meeting with the headmaster. Joe denied it, I couldn't prove it, and the headmaster made us shake hands. I knew the remaining months were only going to be worse. The group beatings and mockery intensified. I barely passed my way through the seventh grade, and the next year I was back in public school. The torment continued -- hey, I was a real dork -- but at least it was free.

Look, kids can do cruel things. Joe was looking to be one of the guys, and I was an easy mark. He couldn't have any idea that my home life was simultaneously crumbling, and that what could have been a respite (time in school, away from home) was instead just compounding my nightmare. I suppose I should forgive the guy. But I can't.

I've managed to slog through a pretty respectable career as a writer. Joe, with his family ties and -- even I have to admit -- considerable talent, is the voice of FOX Sports. And every time I watch a marquee sporting event on FOX, I can't help but pause and reflect that, all those many years ago, that prick pissed in my shoes.

MizzouRah
10-19-2005, 08:48 AM
That's mean... and well, funny at the same time.