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Honolulu_Blue
10-23-2005, 11:30 AM
I know it's about 30 minutes early, but big news out of Detroit...
Jeff Garcia will start for the Lions today. Here endeth the Joey Harrington Era.
A lot of weird coencidences here...
One of the last times the Lions made a in-season QB change, they started Koy Detmer over McMahon (I think). The Lions got Detmer from Cleveland and the game he started was in Cleveland. The Lions lost. Detmer threw for 7 (yes, seven) interceptions in that game.
Garcia played in Cleveland last year and the Lions are playing in Cleveland today.
Let's hope history does not repeat itself...
miami_fan
10-23-2005, 11:42 AM
What is Harrington's contract status for next year?
bronconick
10-23-2005, 11:48 AM
If he's still under contract, I'd trade him for a bag of pucks. Yes, pucks.
Honolulu_Blue
10-23-2005, 11:49 AM
What is Harrington's contract status for next year?
I don't know the specifics off-hand, but he's got a couple of years left and the money is substantial. If the Lions cut him the cap hit, I think, will be well over $5 million.
miami_fan
10-23-2005, 11:53 AM
If he's still under contract, I'd trade him for a bag of pucks. Yes, pucks.
That was the reason for asking. Garcia is 35 and defintely not the long term answer. Do the Lions draft another QB next year?
Also Billy Volek will start against the Cards
timmynausea
10-23-2005, 12:08 PM
One of the last times the Lions made a in-season QB change, they started Koy Detmer over McMahon (I think). The Lions got Detmer from Cleveland and the game he started was in Cleveland. The Lions lost. Detmer threw for 7 (yes, seven) interceptions in that game.
It was Ty Detmer replacing Charlie Batch. I'm pretty sure McMahon was still in college at that point.
Rizon
10-23-2005, 12:16 PM
AWESOME, I get another week of expanded NFL coverage:
Local Game: SF at Washington. Does this game even need to be played?
AFC Game: How to Invest in Today's Stockmarket
Other options: NASCRAP, Figure Skating for Metros, Bull Riding or Women's Soccer.
I can't wait to see the afternoon games, I'll probably get the Chokeland Faiders losing again for the local game and Golf for my NFC game. Course, the game probably will be blacked out, in which case I'll get Golf and probably something like ping pong.
I NEED TO MOVE.
Greyroofoo
10-23-2005, 12:21 PM
One of the last times the Lions made a in-season QB change, they started Koy Detmer over McMahon (I think). The Lions got Detmer from Cleveland and the game he started was in Cleveland. The Lions lost. Detmer threw for 7 (yes, seven) interceptions in that game.
I was at that game :)
And I feel sorry for the Texans
henry296
10-23-2005, 12:23 PM
Big early break for the Steelers. Bengals have Chad Johnson TD overturned when it is ruled his hand hit out of bounds before the elbow and then Graham hooks a 30 yard FG. Good start by Rudi Johnson about 45 yards on the drive.
Rizon
10-23-2005, 12:25 PM
SNAP!
I checked the local TV listings and I get the Faiders for my local game and the 49'ers Postgame show for my AFC game.
Other extremely boring sports I could watch at the same time:
Golf, motorcycle racing, or Soccer in Spanish.
Am I the only one that gets screwed week in and week out on NFL programming? If I wasn't in a football pool this year I'd probably stop watching football alltogether.
Passacaglia
10-23-2005, 12:32 PM
It was Ty Detmer replacing Charlie Batch. I'm pretty sure McMahon was still in college at that point.
It was Ty Detmer for Charlie Batch, but McMahon was a rookie for the Lions -- he started every game that season after that one.
DeToxRox
10-23-2005, 12:57 PM
Kevin Jonhson: Achilies injury, out for the game. Pollard is hurt. Lions have 3 WR and Casey Fitzsimmons.
DeToxRox
10-23-2005, 01:08 PM
TD JEFF GARCIA!
7-3 Detroit
Solecismic
10-23-2005, 01:10 PM
Some receiver stats for perusal:
The Plaxico Ratio
Receivers who are receiving the most attention from their quarterbacks (minimum 50 throws).
Eli Manning to Plaxico Burress, 40.6% of all of his passes.
Kyle Orton to Muhsin Muhammad, 37.8%
Jake Delhomme to Steve Smith, 34.7%
Donovan McNabb to Terrell Owens, 34.1%
Ben Roethlisberger to Hines Ward, 34.0%
Kelly Holcomb to Eric Moulds, 33.3%
Mike Vick to Alge Crumpler, 32.1%
Mark Brunell to Santana Moss, 30.8%
Keary-Eyed and Soon to be on the Bench
Receivers who are catching the lowest percentage of passes thrown their way (minimum 20 attempts).
Keary Colbert from Jake Delhomme, 29.0%
Ashley Lelie from Jake Plummer, 33.3%
Mark Bradley from Kyle Orton, 34.6%
Eric Moulds from J.P. Losman, 35.7%
Roy Williams from Joey Harrington, 37.5%
Samie Parker from Trent Green, 37.5%
Marty Booker from Gus Frerotte, 40.0%
Chris Chambers from Gus Frerotte, 41.2%
DeToxRox
10-23-2005, 01:12 PM
Browns take the kickoff 90 yards for a score.
Solecismic
10-23-2005, 01:17 PM
Philadelphia has discovered a new way to move the football - just leave McNabb out there and let the defense rough him.
This game is a total bore. No offense, and the insistence on commercials after every set of downs is just dragging this thing out beyond belief.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 01:25 PM
Im watchin the steeler game on the NFL live thing on espn. I glance up and see that the texans have tied indy at 14?!?!
edit: look like Dom Davis is having a pretty good day against that colts D everybody is talking about. 85 yards at the half.
MikeVic
10-23-2005, 01:27 PM
Im watchin the steeler game on the NFL live thing on espn. I glance up and see that the texans have tied indy at 14?!?!
Yeah, what's up with that??
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 01:29 PM
Brunell has 236 yards and 3 TD going in the 2nd half.
ISiddiqui
10-23-2005, 01:31 PM
Farve is having a good game as well. 211 yards and 2 TDs. It seems like he's woken up.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 01:33 PM
Farve is having a good game as well. 211 yards and 2 TDs. It seems like he's woken up.
I watched that last drive of theirs for the TD score. It helped that driver got the YAC. Still, seeing Favre needle it in there to driver was a cool thing to see (again).
JonInMiddleGA
10-23-2005, 01:34 PM
Brunell has 236 yards and 3 TD going in the 2nd half.
:( :( :(
(He's the QB against me this week in fantasy, in a game that'll break the tie for 1st place in the league)
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 01:34 PM
I hate these damn live scoreboards. The steelers have been ahead with 48 sec left to go in the half. It's 3rd and 9 on the steeler 21 and has been for the last 5 minutes. Is somebody hurt?
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 01:35 PM
:( :( :(
(He's the QB against me this week in fantasy, in a game that'll break the tie for 1st place in the league)
Sorry to hear that. Like ANYBODY would have thought.
henry296
10-23-2005, 01:36 PM
The Bengals took a timeout. Incomplete pass to Chad Johnson on the sideline. They ended up with a FG before the half.
Cringer
10-23-2005, 01:39 PM
Packers are being helped by a pathetic Vikings team. Still, I am loving this game so far. I hope Robert Furgeson is not too injured, we need him for the rest of the season and the next three weeks of tough games.
Couple things about the Packers today. They have actually given the running game a chance today. It hasn't been great but atleast they didn't go to passing after the first 5 rush attempts. And they also have the screen pass working well compared to previous games.
Still, it comes down to the Vikings just suck a lot more right now as they collapse into a rather sad excuse for a team I think.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 01:40 PM
The Bengals took a timeout. Incomplete pass to Chad Johnson on the sideline. They ended up with a FG before the half.
Thanks for the update.
Gosh, gone are the days of free web radio broadcasts. I remember getting up at 10:30, preppin the vodka and redbulls, getting the computer all ready in front of the tv. cracking open the chips while the pizza is in the oven. Sitting down to an audio/visual dream in my living room...for almost no money.
im gonna cry...;)
TroyF
10-23-2005, 01:43 PM
Philadelphia has discovered a new way to move the football - just leave McNabb out there and let the defense rough him.
This game is a total bore. No offense, and the insistence on commercials after every set of downs is just dragging this thing out beyond belief.
I was one of the many people who really thought the Chargers were much better than that 3-3 record. After this half, I think they not only have the exact record they deserve, but I think teams should now have the blueprint to beat them:
Stack the line, blitz 40+% of the time, double Gates and LT, and let Brees and the rest of the team (including McCardell) beat you. It's worked for Denver, Pittsburgh and now the Eagles.
Don't get me wrong, the Chargers are a very good football team. And they will make the playoffs. But they aren't one of the top three teams in this league and their record is exactly what they deserve.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 01:47 PM
I think Domanick Davis is going to rush the ball 50 times against the Colts today.
henry296
10-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Just to follow - up on the non update scoreboard, all of ESPN's have stopped just before halftime.
Can someone tell me who scored the 3rd Colts TD.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 01:49 PM
James from 9 yards out
henry296
10-23-2005, 01:50 PM
James from 9 yards out
Thanks... I have Harrison and Wayne on some of my teams.
TroyF
10-23-2005, 01:50 PM
I think Domanick Davis is going to rush the ball 50 times against the Colts today.
Yup, and Brian Westbrook may just catch 15 passes in the Eagle game.
cthomer5000
10-23-2005, 01:50 PM
The merciful TV gods have switched us from SF-WAS to GB-MIN.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 01:51 PM
Thanks... I have Harrison and Wayne on some of my teams.
Every team is just letting the Colts run and taking away the deep pass. It is kind of annoying, especially after last season..
TroyF
10-23-2005, 01:53 PM
The merciful TV gods have switched us from SF-WAS to GB-MIN.
I've watched a bit of that GB/Minnesota game. I'm not so sure the Gods are all that merciful.
henry296
10-23-2005, 01:56 PM
The merciful TV gods have switched us from SF-WAS to GB-MIN.
Here in Baltimore, I don't expect them to change since we are a pseudo DC market.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 02:01 PM
Watching the Colts Drives on NFL.com gamecast is a thing of beauty... :D
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:01 PM
Willie MF parker!!!!!!
stevew
10-23-2005, 02:01 PM
Willie Parker with the nice TD run.
henry296
10-23-2005, 02:02 PM
Willie MF parker!!!!!!
Go Willie Go!!!!! He kicked it into another gear, when he got to the sideline.
Rizon
10-23-2005, 02:03 PM
Jeremey Newberry for the Whiners is playing possibily the worst game I have ever seen a center play in the history of this universe. I thought this guy was good? He's tipping off the snap by putting his head up EVERY PLAY right before the snap. Either he's being paid off or he's drunk. (It took the announcers over 2 quarters to notice this).
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:04 PM
bengals get holding on the kick off. that special teams stuff is a problem for the steelers even without getting help from penalties. I haven't seen good special teams play from them in years.
timmynausea
10-23-2005, 02:05 PM
It was Ty Detmer for Charlie Batch, but McMahon was a rookie for the Lions -- he started every game that season after that one.
I was wrong and McMahon did start several games that year. However, I looked it up and that Cleveland game was in week 2 and McMahon didn't get significant playing time until week 11. Batch actually got his job back for several weeks after the Cleveland game before splitting time with McMahon in weeks 11 and 12. McMahon started for the next 3 weeks and then Detmer started the last 2 games of the year. That was only 4 years ago and none of us could remember it properly. Of course it wasn't much to get excited about.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:09 PM
Watching the Colts Drives on NFL.com gamecast is a thing of beauty... :D
haha. I just checked it out. Looked cool. little blue snake the length of the field. Twisted back towards the end zone with colts kicking a FG.
16 plays. nice
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:10 PM
And the Eagles complete an 8 play, 8 pass attempt drive for a FG to go up 10-0.
McNabb has dropped back to pass 47 times now and we still have most of the third quarter to play.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 02:10 PM
haha. I just checked it out. Looked cool. little blue snake the length of the field. Twisted back towards the end zone with colts kicking a FG.
16 plays. nice
I was going to say I jinxed them! :mad: lol
henry296
10-23-2005, 02:12 PM
bengals get holding on the kick off. that special teams stuff is a problem for the steelers even without getting help from penalties. I haven't seen good special teams play from them in years.
Other than that return, I think the Steelers kick coverage has been pretty good today. As long as they keep teams inside the 30 I am fine with that.
tucker rocky
10-23-2005, 02:14 PM
Was that a catch by Ward?
Looks like he had complete possession as he was hitting the ground.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:14 PM
Other than that return, I think the Steelers kick coverage has been pretty good today. As long as they keep teams inside the 30 I am fine with that.
They just seem to lose it on coverage. Have been for years. Perhaps its not as bad as I am thinking.
Oh, and good little runs from the bus today.
edit.
Is Miller becoming the next Eric Green? haha. Hope so.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:16 PM
WARD TD!!!!
henry296
10-23-2005, 02:18 PM
Is Miller becoming the next Eric Green? haha. Hope so.
During the game Randy Cross mentioned the Steeers hadn't had a good TE since Benji Cunningham and if you remembered him you were a true Steeler fan.
I immediately yelled, "It's Bennie Cunningham and did you forget Eric Green"
Great drive and great run by Jerome on that 3rd and 4... He just kept the legs moving as he should have been 2 yards short.
Solecismic
10-23-2005, 02:23 PM
Ward and the Riverdance. T.O. and that lame cocktail waitress pantomine. What is happening to touchdown celebrations lately?
McCardell mocking the cocktail waitress dance was funny, though.
TazFTW
10-23-2005, 02:23 PM
Stephen Davis with a bye and Julius Jones with an injury made me start Clinton Portis this week.
I'm happy.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Ward and the Riverdance. T.O. and that lame cocktail waitress pantomine. What is happening to touchdown celebrations lately?
McCardell mocking the cocktail waitress dance was funny, though.
Id rather see guys like Walter Stanley doing cart wheels into back flips. But that's just me.
timmynausea
10-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Ward's dance was mocking Chad Johnson's dance from a few weeks ago.
Solecismic
10-23-2005, 02:27 PM
Ward's dance was mocking Chad Johnson's dance from a few weeks ago.
I missed that subtlety. Perhaps he should have held up a sign beforehand saying, "NFL please don't fine me, I'm about to mock Chad Johnson."
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:29 PM
Ward's dance was mocking Chad Johnson's dance from a few weeks ago.
Ward did that last year against the Eagles as well. Mocked TO's arms flapping thing. That Ko ko B Ware move.
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:29 PM
We need to start an "idiotic" announcer comment thread every week.
Watching the Steeler/Bengal game and Polamalu gets torched and comes up with air on a running play. Great play by the Bengal WR.
But then the announcer goes overboard. . . "We heard a lot about Polamalu coming into this game, but he hasn't been much of a factor"
Umm. . . what the hell are you talking about? Chad Johnson has 3 catches for 47 yards. Carson Palmer is throwing for a little over 5 yards per pass attempt. The Bengals have 6 total points.
Did all of this happen without the safeties being a big part of the game? Just because he hasn't made an INT or forced a fumble doesn't mean he hasn't had a solid football game.
Morons.
The Chargers scored on a long drive. The Eagles respond with two more pass attempts in three plays and shank a punt.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:30 PM
During the game Randy Cross mentioned the Steeers hadn't had a good TE since Benji Cunningham and if you remembered him you were a true Steeler fan.
I immediately yelled, "It's Bennie Cunningham and did you forget Eric Green"
Great drive and great run by Jerome on that 3rd and 4... He just kept the legs moving as he should have been 2 yards short.
i had to check PFR.com for him. Recognized the name but wasn't sure what era he played in.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:31 PM
go Willie go!
henry296
10-23-2005, 02:32 PM
We need to start an "idiotic" announcer thread comment every week.
Watching the Steeler/Bengal game and Polamalu gets torched and comes up with air on a running play. Great play by the Bengal WR.
But then the announcer goes overboard. . . "We heard a lot about Polamalu coming into this game, but he hasn't been much of a factor"
Umm. . . what the hell are you talking about? Chad Johnson has 3 catches for 47 yards. Carson Palmer is throwing for a little over 5 yards per pass attempt. The Bengals have 6 total points.
Did all of this happen without the safeties being a big part of the game? Just because he hasn't made an INT or forced a fumble doesn't mean he hasn't had a solid football game.
Morons.
The Chargers scored on a long drive. The Eagles respond with two more pass attempts in three plays and shank a punt.
I really had no opinion of Cross but thought he was okay, but today he has been awful. I guess he still is mad at the Steelers for cutting him as a rookie.
I also have never liked Harlan, too much fake enthusiasm on every play.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:33 PM
scary to think that without 2 receivers, the steelers wouldn't have 14 points. I like that Palmer is getting the ball spread out. May be because he is being forced to.
Buccaneer
10-23-2005, 02:33 PM
Ward and the Riverdance. T.O. and that lame cocktail waitress pantomine. What is happening to touchdown celebrations lately?
McCardell mocking the cocktail waitress dance was funny, though.
I have a radical idea. How about just giving the ball back to the ref and hug/pattycake your teammates on the way back to the sidelines?
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:36 PM
Eric Green was a beast.
And while Mark Bruener never develolped as a receiver people thought he would, he was the best blocking TE in football for about a five year period.
Cringer
10-23-2005, 02:39 PM
Ahman Green is down and out. Right knee. Carted off.
The injuries for Green Bay are insane this year. Vikings have the momentum in this game big time now, too. Packers will end up losing this game I think.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 02:40 PM
I just LT has 10 carries for -6 yards? YIKES.
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:40 PM
OK, now the Eagles are trailing.
They've been tied or ahead all game and McNabb has thrown it this much. He may fire it up there 70 times today.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:41 PM
Eric Green was a beast.
And while Mark Bruener never develolped as a receiver people thought he would, he was the best blocking TE in football for about a five year period.
Yeah, though people didn't realize that (fans). That was during the time of the Sharpe/Coates/Gonzales/Chmura era of big play TEs.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:42 PM
Ahman Green is down and out. Right knee. Carted off.
The injuries for Green Bay are insane this year. Vikings have the momentum in this game big time now, too. Packers will end up losing this game I think.
Is that the second or 3rd knee injury that Green has had in his career? Didn't he have one in Seattle before he went to the packers?
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:44 PM
I just LT has 10 carries for -6 yards? YIKES.
Yep, and after that McNabb INT, the Chargers could score here and essentially end this game.
The amusing thing? We are just starting the fourth quarter. The Eagles have attempted to throw the ball 50 times and they've called 8 running plays. And the last play that resulted in the INT was a play action pass.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 02:44 PM
dola. i am pretty sure in 2002 he had a knee sprain or something.
henry296
10-23-2005, 02:46 PM
I just LT has 10 carries for -6 yards? YIKES.
They just switched us to this game... LT very close to the recording breaking TD
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 02:46 PM
The amusing thing? We are just starting the fourth quarter. The Eagles have attempted to throw the ball 50 times and they've called 8 running plays. And the last play that resulted in the INT was a play action pass.
That is taking the West Coast offense to an extreme.. Wow.. I know when they throw to Westbrook it is basically a running play, but still. Get him the ball in different ways, he is too much of a playmaker. I loved watching the Eagles play last year, but I haven't had the chance this year.
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:47 PM
They just switched us to this game... LT very close to the recording breaking TD
Then a holding pushed them back. The Eagles will be coming with an all out blitz this play. And they'll be keying on LT. Putting Gates and LT on one side of the field and throwing to McCardell will result in a TD here.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 02:47 PM
How can you call a holding at the 1 yard line? I am sorry, but no. That just smells like, "I want to keep this game close enough for McNabb to make a comeback." IE making the NFL more exciting.
henry296
10-23-2005, 02:50 PM
They just switched us to this game... LT very close to the recording breaking TD
Now I wish they would show the game in HD for me... It is in HD elsewhere, right?
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:51 PM
Yep, I'm watching it in HD.
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:53 PM
How moronic. How absolute idiotic can you be? You have to know the Eagles are going to be calling an all out blitz from both sides. And you do a standard 7 yard drop? Idiots.
TroyF
10-23-2005, 02:58 PM
So the Eagles get a reprive. Down 7 now. Still 9+ minutes to go to start the drive. Here is a novel idea, lets throw it a few times. 3 and out.
If this were Mike Martz, people would be calling for his head. Just pathetic play calling by the Eagles in this one.
Lorena
10-23-2005, 03:05 PM
Holy shit I can't believe the Vikings just won the game on a 56 yrd field goal!!
henry296
10-23-2005, 03:05 PM
Great kick by Edinger from 56 after a poor snap and it would've been good from near 65.
timmynausea
10-23-2005, 03:07 PM
Garcia gets it done. The Lions are 3-3.
Eaglesfan27
10-23-2005, 03:14 PM
The Saints were just robbed by the refs, but didn't have any timeouts left to call a challenge of the play (which happened just before the 2 minute warning sounded and time actually went under 2 minutes.)
Masked
10-23-2005, 03:16 PM
Rams get a TD on what has to be the worst call by a ref this season. Saints receiver was lying on the ground with the ball after being tackled. Rams player takes the ball out of his hands and returns it for a TD.
RendeR
10-23-2005, 03:18 PM
I have to say that the announcing team for the pitt/cincy game was the single worst effort I have ever in my life listened too.
What game are these guys watching? Utter incompetance.
As for the game itself, I wasn't impressed with Pittsburgh, Cincinnati made so friggin many mistakes its just sickening.
We're still in the lead, but we gotta learn to win the big ones.
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Saw the last 4th and 1 for the Eagles. Fricken unreal. I don't know what to say. That was a horrible call and execution on a 4th and 1 from an apparent horrible game by the Eagles.
CHEMICAL SOLDIER
10-23-2005, 03:20 PM
That crazy game at Philly!
Lorena
10-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Oh my fucking GOD!! Did Philly just score on a blocked field goal? FUCKING SHIT MAN I thought the Chargers had it!! Mother fuckers...
Sorry, I'm a little upset right now :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Lorena
10-23-2005, 03:22 PM
Oh my fucking GOD!! Did Philly just score on a blocked field goal? FUCKING SHIT MAN I thought the Chargers had it!! Mother fuckers...
Sorry, I'm a little upset right now :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Okay, I had to walk around a little and take a deep breath... over 2 minutes left and the Chargers can still come back and possibly win it. I can't freaking believe it man... unreal
Hurst2112
10-23-2005, 03:23 PM
That crazy game at Philly!
OMFG! That's too bizarre.
Lorena
10-23-2005, 03:24 PM
Of course I'll be fine with OT but not sure how the Charges'll do with LT under 20 yards
henry296
10-23-2005, 03:26 PM
I have to say that the announcing team for the pitt/cincy game was the single worst effort I have ever in my life listened too.
What game are these guys watching? Utter incompetance.
As for the game itself, I wasn't impressed with Pittsburgh, Cincinnati made so friggin many mistakes its just sickening.
We're still in the lead, but we gotta learn to win the big ones.
I realize we are looking at the game through different lenses, but after the first 2 series, the Steelers defense got pressure on Palmer and stopped the run. The dropped pass by Henry was a key play in the game, but I didn't see that many other big mistakes. The only other key play was Thurman being offsides on that 3rd down play but it was the right call.
The Bengals need to improve that run defense. The Steelers average 4.7 yards per carry. Against top teams that just won't due.
As for being in the lead, the only reason is because the Bengals haven't had the bye. With both teams with 2 losses, I'd call it a dead heat.
Eaglesfan27
10-23-2005, 03:29 PM
YES! Walker recovers!
Vince
10-23-2005, 03:33 PM
I think that's a great call on a tough play by that official in the Philly/SD game.
TazFTW
10-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Touchdown Keyshawn!
Lorena
10-23-2005, 03:36 PM
I think that's a great call on a tough play by that official in the Philly/SD game.
*sigh* wow, I reluctantly agree... so close... so close :(
TazFTW
10-23-2005, 03:37 PM
And Cortez kicks the kickoff out of bounds. :rolleyes:
Fouts
10-23-2005, 03:40 PM
Ref is not going to overturn that in Philly, and he still had possession when his knee hit the ground. It was slipping, but it wasn't out of his grasp yet.
tucker rocky
10-23-2005, 03:43 PM
*sigh* wow, I reluctantly agree... so close... so close :(
Yeah, it could've gone either way, but since SD on the road they'll give it to the Eagles.
tucker rocky
10-23-2005, 03:45 PM
Ref is not going to overturn that in Philly, and he still had possession when his knee hit the ground. It was slipping, but it wasn't out of his grasp yet.
My thoughts exactly.
Vince
10-23-2005, 03:46 PM
But Fouts, I don't think he does. The action that made him lose it was Trotter (I think?) stripping the ball. And he had finished stripping the ball before the knee hit the ground. The angle makes it arguable that he still has the ball, but nothing else happened that made him drop it, so therefore I think he did not have possession at that time.
Horrible way for SD to go down. Brees has to be totally crapped out after that.
Fouts
10-23-2005, 04:00 PM
Horrible way for SD to go down. Brees has to be totally crapped out after that.
Nothing Brees could do in that last 3 minutes. Blocked FG and fumble by the WR. Gotta hope the Chargers can catch some breaks the rest of the way. They need to go 6-3 to finish 9-7, but that might not get them in.
Cringer
10-23-2005, 04:08 PM
Is that the second or 3rd knee injury that Green has had in his career? Didn't he have one in Seattle before he went to the packers?
I don't think he had one in Seattle, they just disn't like his fumbling. The only thing I can say for sure is that it is his right knee. This is the knee that has been hurt for weeks now and made him miss the last two games. It is also the knee that had him listed as Questionable all this week. Guess they should have kept his ass on the sideline.
Thankfully there are the Houston Texans to prevent the Packers from having the worst record in the NFL.
Lorena
10-23-2005, 04:10 PM
Yeah, it could've gone either way, but since SD on the road they'll give it to the Eagles.
No doubt about it.
Lorena
10-23-2005, 04:12 PM
Nothing Brees could do in that last 3 minutes. Blocked FG and fumble by the WR. Gotta hope the Chargers can catch some breaks the rest of the way. They need to go 6-3 to finish 9-7, but that might not get them in.
With Denver and KC playing the way they are, very doubtful they make it with that record. And you're right, this cannot be blamed on the Breezer... he did what he had to and the fumble and blocked FG weren't his fault.
st.cronin
10-23-2005, 04:22 PM
penalties are killing the NFL this year
TroyF
10-23-2005, 04:48 PM
With Denver and KC playing the way they are, very doubtful they make it with that record. And you're right, this cannot be blamed on the Breezer... he did what he had to and the fumble and blocked FG weren't his fault.
Brees played a solid game, but like i said in a previous post, it looks like the blueprint to beat SD is there. The good thing for SD is that only teams with quick LB corps will be able to execute it. The bad thing is that anyone they will face in the playoffs will be able to execute it.
As for that fumble, I don't think it was that close. I think the ref got it right. There was no reason for him to lose the ball from anything but that strip action. "slipping" out means there is no control. It was a good call.
Greyroofoo
10-23-2005, 06:14 PM
Wow, what an end to the Seahawk-Cowboy game
st.cronin
10-23-2005, 06:18 PM
Is it just my imagination or does Eli Manning freak out against a good pass rush?
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 06:18 PM
Wow, what an end to the Seahawk-Cowboy game
The only thing that comes to mind is "Bledsoe the Dumbass." That was pretty bad timing on that interception.
Solecismic
10-23-2005, 06:18 PM
A gift from Bledsoe, that's for sure. Parcells saw the heights of Bledsoe, now he's experiencing the depths.
Josh Brown is a very good kicker. Not everyone is going to make a 51-yarder at the buzzer in the rain, right down the middle. He was a big reason for the win.
I've never seen a team dominate so much defensively only to fall apart at the two minute warning. Dallas dominated Washington for 58 minutes, New York for 59 minutes, Seattle for 58 minutes, but they just collapsed at the end everytime.
Cuckoo
10-23-2005, 06:24 PM
I've never seen a team dominate so much defensively only to fall apart at the two minute warning. Dallas dominated Washington for 58 minutes, New York for 59 minutes, Seattle for 58 minutes, but they just collapsed at the end everytime.
And thus defines my misery... :(
cthomer5000
10-23-2005, 06:25 PM
Eli Manning... oh my!
Travis
10-23-2005, 06:25 PM
A gift from Bledsoe, that's for sure. Parcells saw the heights of Bledsoe, now he's experiencing the depths.
Josh Brown is a very good kicker. Not everyone is going to make a 51-yarder at the buzzer in the rain, right down the middle. He was a big reason for the win.
I think Brown might have gotten run out of town had he missed that last one. Had the Seahawks been sitting at 4-3 instead of 6-1 (today and the miss against Washington), this season could have ended up going the same direction as last season.
Nice to see our D stand tall and force that final Dallas field goal after the second Hass interception. Sure Bledsoe forced one at the end trying to get field position for the field goal try, but they really earned this one from start to finish. Excellent way to pick up the offense's off day.
Solecismic
10-23-2005, 06:26 PM
Is it just my imagination or does Eli Manning freak out against a good pass rush?
I don't see it. I think he's going to be as good as his brother.
st.cronin
10-23-2005, 06:26 PM
Is it just my imagination or does Eli Manning freak out against a good pass rush?
Never mind... he was fantastic on that last drive. I'd definitely take him over his brother.
cthomer5000
10-23-2005, 06:27 PM
Never mind... he was fantastic on that last drive. I'd definitely take him over his brother.
*Marks this down in book of "Dumbest Things I've Ever Heard"*
st.cronin
10-23-2005, 06:28 PM
dola
I get confused about Eli cause he can be very inconsistent. It's hard to keep in perspective that he is just in his second year.
INDalltheway
10-23-2005, 06:45 PM
*Marks this down in book of "Dumbest Things I've Ever Heard"*
I will second that.
Raiders Army
10-23-2005, 07:51 PM
Well done LaMont Jordan. Well done.
SnowMan
10-23-2005, 08:49 PM
Just got home from the Seahawks game. The offense needs to buy the defense a steak dinner. The Cowboys just outplayed the Hawks, and Seattle stole one. What a great game to be at, the weather just added to the atmosphere.
Lorena
10-23-2005, 09:00 PM
A lot of close games and comebacks, good week in the NFL.
Why in the hell is there Poker on ESPN?
cthomer5000
10-23-2005, 09:02 PM
Why in the hell is there Poker on ESPN?
Every channel seems to have settled into "don't compete with the World Series" mode. It's fucking annoying.
Lorena
10-23-2005, 09:16 PM
Every channel seems to have settled into "don't compete with the World Series" mode. It's fucking annoying.
It is fucking annoying, when did Poker become America's passion? Puh-leez
miami_fan
10-23-2005, 09:16 PM
Philly won but just for comparison sake
PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. McNabb 35/54 287 1 2
Texas Tech Passing
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
Cody Hodges 42/64 369 5.8 2 1
Are the Eagles running a version of the run n shoot now?
ISiddiqui
10-23-2005, 09:21 PM
Every channel seems to have settled into "don't compete with the World Series" mode. It's fucking annoying.It's smart as well. Put something on that doesn't cost too much and gets average ratings so you don't lose too much money.
Same thing happens during the Superbowl.
Buccaneer
10-23-2005, 09:25 PM
It's smart as well. Put something on that doesn't cost too much and gets average ratings so you don't lose too much money.
Same thing happens during the Superbowl.
Except if you put even a bad football game against the World Series, it will blow it out ratings-wise. Remember when the 7th game of the NYY-AZ WS got half the ratings of a competing Sun or Mon night football game? I suspect it was pressure from Fox not to have a football game on, knowing that it would get beat.
Passacaglia
10-23-2005, 10:00 PM
Every channel seems to have settled into "don't compete with the World Series" mode. It's fucking annoying.
I dunno...the preview channel had listed the World Series as #3 in the 9:00 (central) time slot. Grey's Anatomy was #2, and I forget what was #1. I thought it was weird.
And I just assumed there was no football tonight because it was supposed to be KC-Mia, though I could be wrong..
Honolulu_Blue
10-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Well, the Jeff Garcia Era didn't exactly light the world on fire, but the Lions won the game. Garcia made some plays out there that kept drives alive, plays that Joey just wouldn't have been able to pull off. Given that the Lions were down to their number #4, #5, and #6 receivers (they only opened the season with 4 on the roster), 22/34 for 210 yards isn't a bad day. Granted, the Cleveland defense isn't Carolina, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, or Chicago.
The defense continues to play well. Three more interceptions and the Browns went 0-8 on third down.
Lions lost Kevin Johnson (their leading receiver so far this year) for the year to a ruptured achiiles. Shaun Rogers and Dre Bly (best two defensive players) also left with injuries. Hopefully Ble and Rogers will be able to play next week against Chicago in the battle for sole possession of first place of the mighty NFC North. The Lions could also use Roy Williams back. C-Rog still has one more week to serve of his suspension.
Celeval
10-23-2005, 11:09 PM
I dunno...the preview channel had listed the World Series as #3 in the 9:00 (central) time slot. Grey's Anatomy was #2, and I forget what was #1. I thought it was weird.
And I just assumed there was no football tonight because it was supposed to be KC-Mia, though I could be wrong..
ESPN has consistantly not scheduled Sun. night football games during the World Series the last couple years (at least). I'm betting the poor ratings are because it's Hou-ChiWS.
stevew
10-24-2005, 02:48 AM
Who Dey?
Butter
10-24-2005, 09:18 AM
Classy.
TazFTW
10-24-2005, 02:59 PM
Yay, Cowboys waive Jose Cortez.
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