cartman's FOFC/SGS College Football Top 25 poll #9 open for voting

[cartman]

Hello all,

Well, two more have fallen from the ranks of the unbeaten, leaving us with three. And there are a ton of one loss teams hoping for two or more of the three unbeatens to fall.

Submissions will be due by 6pm Central, on Wednesday Nov. 9th. I plan to have the results posted prior to the W. Virginia/Cincinnati game.

Here is how last week's Top 25 fared:


Team Record Weekend Result
1. USC (14) 9-0 beat Stanford 51-21
2. Texas (5) 9-0 beat Baylor 62-0
3. Virginia Tech (3) 8-1 lost to #5 Miami 27-7
4. Alabama 9-0 beat Mississippi St. 17-0
5. Miami 7-1 beat #3 Virginia Tech 27-7
6. UCLA 8-1 lost to Arizona 52-14
7. LSU 7-1 beat Appalachian St. 24-0
8. Florida State 7-2 lost to NC State 20-15
9. Penn State 9-1 beat #13 Wisconsin 35-14
10. Georgia 7-1 Bye
11. Notre Dame 6-2 beat Tennessee 41-1
12. Ohio State 7-2 beat Illinois 40-2
13. Wisconsin 8-2 lost to #9 Penn State 35-14
14. Oregon 8-1 beat #22 California 27-20 (OT)
15. Florida 7-2 beat Vanderbilt 49-42 (2OT)
16. Texas Tech 8-1 beat Texas A&M 56-17
17. West Virginia 7-1 beat Connecticut 45-13
18. Auburn 7-2 beat Kentucky 49-27
19. Boston College 6-3 lost to North Carolina 16-14
20. TCU 9-1 beat Colorado State 33-6
21. Fresno State 7-1 beat San Jose St. 45-7
22. California 6-3 lost to #14 Oregon 27-20 (OT)
23. Michigan 6-3 Bye
24. Colorado 7-2 beat Missouri 41-12
25. UTEP 7-1 beat Tulsa 41-38

[timmynausea]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. LSU
6. Penn State
7. Georgia
8. Notre Dame
9. Virginia Tech
10. West Virginia
11. Ohio State
12. UCLA
13. Florida
14. Louisville
15. Florida State
16. Texas Tech
17. Oregon
18. Auburn
19. Texas Christian
20. Fresno St.
21. Michigan
22. UTEP
23. Northwestern
24. Wisconsin
25. South Florida

[cartman]

Here's my Top 25:

1. Texas
2. USC
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. Georgia
8. Oregon
9. Virginia Tech
10. Notre Dame
11. Florida
12. Ohio State
13. Auburn
14. Texas Tech
15. TCU
16. West Virginia
17. Florida State
18. Fresno State
19. UCLA
20. Colorado
21. Wisconsin
22. Louisville
23. Michigan
24. UTEP
25. Boston College

[cartman]

And here's the Top 25 from solecismic.com. I'm sure some of the teams on it will raise some eyebrows.

1. Southern California
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
4. Georgia
5. Georgia Tech
6. Miami, Florida
7. Texas
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oregon
10. Wisconsin
11. Texas Tech
12. North Carolina
13. Notre Dame
14. Louisiana State
15. West Virginia
16. Florida
17. Stanford
18. Florida State
19. Iowa State
20. Alabama
21. Louisville
22. UCLA
23. Minnesota
24. Auburn
25. Fresno State

[JonInMiddleGA]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. Miami (4)
4. Alabama (5)
5. Notre Dame (7)
6. Virginia Tech (3)
7. LSU (6)
8. Ohio State (9)
9. Penn State (13)
10. Florida (10)
11. Georgia (11)
12. Auburn (16)
13. Florida State (8)
14. Michigan (14)
15. Texas Tech (20)
16. Oregon (17)
17. TCU (18)
18. UCLA (12)
19. West Virginia (21)
20. Wisconsin (15)
21. Fresno State (22)
22. Louisville (23)
23. Colorado (--)
24. South Carolina (--)
25. Boston College (19)

Dropped Out - California (24), Rutgers (25)

[Easy Mac]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (3)
3. Alabama (4)
4. Miami (8)
5. Penn State (7)
6. Virginia Tech (2)
7. Georgia (10)
8. LSU (9)
9. Notre Dame (13)
10. Oregon (21)
11. UCLA (5)
12. Ohio State (12)
13. Florida State (6)
14. Fresno State (15)
15. Wisconsin (11)
16. Texas Tech (19)
17. West Virginia (14)
18. TCU (18)
19. Auburn (20)
20. Florida (16)
21. UTEP (22)
22. Georgia Tech (NR)
23. Boise State (NR)
24. South Carolina (NR)
25. Michigan (24)

Dropped: Boston College (17), Colorado (23), California (25)

[digamma]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. Virginia Tech
8. Georgia
9. Notre Dame
10. Ohio State
11. Florida
12. Texas Tech
13. UCLA
14. Oregon
15. West Virginia
16. Auburn
17. Florida State
18. Louisville
19. Michigan
20. TCU
21. Fresno State
22. Georgia Tech
23. Colorado
24. Wisconsin
25. UTEP

[Huckleberry]

1. Texas (1)
2. Southern California (2)
3. Alabama (4)
4. Penn State (6)
5. Miami (5)
6. Ohio State (7)
7. Virginia Tech (3)
8. Georgia (9)
9. Texas Tech (13)
10. Notre Dame (16)
11. Oregon (14)
12. LSU (11)
13. Wisconsin (12)
14. Colorado (19)
15. Minnesota (17)
16. Florida (15)
17. Auburn (20)
18. Florida State (10)
19. West Virginia (21)
20. Fresno State (22)
21. Michigan (23)
22. Georgia Tech (24)
23. Northwestern (25)
24. Louisville (--)
25. UCLA (8)

Dropped out: Boston College (18)

[Cuckoo]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. Miami (4)
4. Alabama (5)
5. LSU (6)
6. Georgia (9)
7. Virginia Tech (3)
8. Penn State (12)
9. Notre Dame (11)
10. Florida (10)
11. Ohio State (13)
12. Oregon (14)
13. UCLA (7)
14. West Virginia (15)
15. Florida State (8)
16. Texas Tech (17)
17. Auburn (20)
18. TCU (21)
19. Colorado (22)
20. Wisconsin (16)
21. Michigan (23)
22. Fresno State (24)
23. UTEP (25)
24. Louisville (--)
25. Georgia Tech (--)

Dropped out: Boston College, Cal

[duckman]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. Louisiana State
6. Penn State
7. Notre Dame
8. West Virginia
9. Georgia
10. Oregon
11. Virginia Tech
12. Florida State
13. Auburn
14. Texas Christian
15. Ohio State
16. Texas Tech
17. UCLA
18. Wisconsin
19. Florida
20. Louisville
21. Colorado
22. UTEP
23. Fresno State
24. Georgia Tech
25. Michigan

[Joe]

1. Texas
2. Penn State
3. USC
4. Miami
5. LSU
6. Alabama
7. Ohio State
8. Georgia
9. Virginia Tech
10. Notre Dame
11. Florida
12. West Virginia
13. Louisville
14. Texas Tech
15. Auburn
16. Flordia State
17. UCLA
18. Oregon
19. Michigan
20. Northwestern
21. UTEP
22. Wisconsin
23. Colorado
24. Georgia Tech
25. Fresno

[kingnebwsu]

Week 11 11/7

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Miami (FL)
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. Notre Dame
8. Georgia
9. Virginia Tech
10. Ohio State
11. Oregon
12. Texas Tech
13. Florida
14. UCLA
15. West Virginia
16. Auburn
17. TCU
18. Florida State
19. Wisconsin
20. Fresno State
21. Colorado
22. Michigan
23. Georgia Tech
24. Northwestern
25. Louisville

[Sublime 2]

1. Texas (1)
2. USC (2)
3. Alabama (4)
4. Miami (6)
5. LSU (5)
6. Penn State (9)
7. Notre Dame (13)
8. Virginia Tech (3)
9. Ohio State (11)
10. Oregon (12)
11. Texas Tech (14)
12. Georgia (10)
13. Auburn (17)
14. TCU (22)
15. Florida (15)
16. UCLA (7)
17. Fresno State (20)
18. Florida State (8)
19. West Virginia (19)
20. Michigan (21)
21. UTEP (23)
22. Colorado (25)
23. Louisville (--)
24. Wisconsin (16)
25. Boston College (18)

Dropped From Poll: California (24)

[sooner333]

1. Texas (1)
2. USC (2)
3. Miami (7)
4. Alabama (4)
5. Penn State (9)
6. Oregon (8)
7. LSU (11)
8. Ohio State (12)
9. Virginia Tech (3)
10. West Virginia (14)
11. Florida (13)
12. Florida State (6)
13. Georgia (15)
14. Texas Tech (17)
15. UCLA (5)
16. Wisconsin (10)
17. Notre Dame (19)
18. TCU (16)
19. Oklahoma (20)
20. Michigan (21)
21. Colorado (22)
22. Auburn (23)
23. Fresno State (24)
24. UTEP (25)
25. Northwestern (--)

Dropped Out

Boston College (18)

[timmynausea]

1. Texas
2. Penn State
3. USC
4. Miami
5. LSU
6. Alabama
7. Ohio State
8. Georgia
9. Virginia Tech
10. Notre Dame
11. Florida
12. West Virginia
13. Louisville
14. Texas Tech
15. Auburn
16. Flordia State
17. UCLA
18. Oregon
19. Michigan
20. Northwestern
21. UTEP
22. Wisconsin
23. Oregon
24. Georgia Tech
25. Fresno


You have Oregon on there twice.

[Galaxy]

1) USC
2) Texas
3) Alabama
4) Miami (FL)
5) LSU
6) Penn State
7) Georgia
8) Ohio State
9) Virginia Tech
10) Oregon
11) Notre Dame
12) Florida
13) Auburn
14) Texas Tech
15) UCLA
16) West Virginia
17) TCU
18) Florida State
19) Wisconsin
20) Colorado
21) Fresno State
22) Michigan
23) Georgia Tech
24) UTEP
25) Northwestern

[SackAttack]

1. Texas
2. Penn State
3. USC

PSU above USC? :confused:

[Galaxy]

PSU above USC? :confused:

It's George W Bush.....:D

[SackAttack]

It's George W Bush.....:D

Which is why I expected Texas as #1, but I'm not sure I see the justification for PSU as a top 5 team, let alone the #2 team. I'm just looking for some insight there.

[Huckleberry]

Which is why I expected Texas as #1, but I'm not sure I see the justification for PSU as a top 5 team, let alone the #2 team. I'm just looking for some insight there.
Every decent computer rating has PSU as a Top 5 team. Every one.

Of course, I agree with the PSU vs. USC question, but Penn State is being severely underrated purely because of preseason expectations. I realize that all their big wins have been at home, but they've done very well.

[cartman]

Which is why I expected Texas as #1, but I'm not sure I see the justification for PSU as a top 5 team, let alone the #2 team. I'm just looking for some insight there.

Penn State is a questionable clock decision away from being undefeated. If those two seconds weren't put back on the clock at Michigan, they might well have won that game.

[Karlifornia]

I fully believe that if/when Texas and USC go head to head, that USC will dominate. I really hope they both finish undefeated.

[sterlingice]

1 USC (1)
2 Texas (3)
3 Alabama (5)
4 Virginia Tech (4)
5 Penn St (7)
6 Miami (10)
7 Oregon (12)
8 Georgia (9)
9 Ohio St (15)
10 Wisconsin (8)
11 Florida St (6)
12 LSU (11)
13 UCLA (4)
14 Texas Tech (14)
15 W Virginia (13)
16 Michigan (18)
17 Florida (19)
18 Notre Dame (17)
19 Auburn (21)
20 Northwestern (--)
21 Fresno St (22)
22 Boston Col (16)
23 Georgia Tech (--)
24 Virginia (--)
25 TCU (23)

Just missed: Louisville (--), N Carolina (--), Colorado (20)
Knocked out: Colorado (20), Minnesota (24), Michigan St (25)
Notes: A few more tweaks in the methodology to get rid of bias so there's some odd movement again, particularly in the lower ranks. The Big XII is just getting blasted for having their crap (go Kansas!) knocking off what was supposed to be decent teams week-in and week-out.

I'm sure this will raise some eyebrows but Virginia Tech is still ahead of Miami. They've played a harder schedule but Miami has a chance to pass them up- all depends on how the two do down the stretch and how the teams they play do. Again, the theory of my poll is the team that plays the hardest schedule gets ranked the highest and that's the biggest factor- head to head is further down the list. I know my system is still in its infancy, but in my mind, much better than a lot of the systems out there which are basically revolving doors of "you lose so you go to the back of the X loss teams since you lost most recently".

SI

[Young Drachma]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. Penn State
6. Virginia Tech
7. Georgia
8. LSU
9. Oregon
10. Notre Dame
11. Ohio State
12. UCLA
13. Florida
14. TCU
15. Wisconsin
16. Florida State
17. Texas Tech
18. West Virginia
19. Michigan
20. Auburn
21. Colorado
22. Fresno State
23. South Carolina
24. UTEP
25. Northwestern

[cartman]

bump...

Submissions are due in by 6pm Central time tonight.

Lathum: clean out your PMs :)

GWB: You have Oregon listed twice in your poll

[bronconick]

1. Texas (2)
2. USC (3)
3. Alabama (4)
4. Miami (6)
5. LSU (7)
6. Georgia (8)
7. Penn State (9)
8. Virginia Tech (1)
9. Ohio State (11)
10. Florida (12)
11. Notre Dame (13)
12. Oregon (14)
13. UCLA (5)
14. Auburn (15)
15. Texas Tech (16)
16. Florida State (10)
17. TCU (18)
18. West Virginia (19)
19. Fresno State (22)
20. Colorado (23)
21. UTEP (24)
22. Boise State (--)
23. Louisville (--)
24. Georgia Tech (--)
25. Michigan (--)

Dropped out- Boston College (17), Wisconsin (20), California (21), Rutgers (25)

[dacman]

1.Texas
2.USC
3.Miami(FL)
4.Alabama
5.LSU
6.Penn State
7.Georgia
8.Oregon
9.Virginia Tech
10.Notre Dame
11.Ohio State
12.West Virginia
13.Florida State
14.Texas Tech
15.Auburn
16.Florida
17.TCU
18.Fresno State
19.Wisconsin
20.Boise State
21.Colorado
22.Georgia Tech
23.UCLA
24.Michigan
25.UTEP

[General Mike]

1. Southern Cal
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Penn State
5. Miami (FL)
6. Virginia Tech
7. LSU
8. Georgia
9. Notre Dame
10. West Virginia
11. Florida
12. Oregon
13. Florida State
14. Texas Tech
15. Auburn
16. TCU
17. UCLA
18. Wisconsin
19. Fresno State
20. Colorado
21. UTEP
22. Louisville
23. Georgia Tech
24. Northwestern
25. California

[SnDvls]

1 USC
2 Texas
3 Alabama
4 Miami, Fl
5 LSU
6 Georgia
7 Penn St.
8 Virginia Tech
9 Oregon
10 Notre Dame
11 UCLA
12 Florida St.
13 Ohio St.
14 TCU
15 West Virginia
16 Auburn
17 Florida
18 Wisconsin
19 Texas Tech
20 Fresno St
21 UTEP
22 Colorado
23 Northwestern
24 California
25 Michigan

[JeeberD]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. Miami (Fl) (4)
4. Notre Dame (5)
5. LSU (6)
6. Alabama (9)
7. Georgia (8)
8. Florida (10)
9. Virginia Tech (3)
10. Ohio State (12)
11. Penn State (14)
12. Oregon (13)
13. UCLA (7)
14. West Virginia (17)
15. Texas Tech (19)
16. Florida State (11)
17. TCU (20)
18. Wisconsin (15)
19. Fresno State (21)
20. Auburn (22)
21. UTEP (23)
22. Cal (16)
23. Colorado (24)
24. Michigan (25)
25. Louisville (-)

Dropped out: Boston College (18)

[Neuqua]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. Georgia
8. Oregon
9. Notre Dame
10. VT
11. Florida
12. Ohio State
13. Auburn
14. Texas Tech
15. TCU
16. West Virginia
17. Florida State
18. Fresno State
19. Michigan
20. Wisconsin
21. UCLA
22. Colorado
23. Louisville
24. UTEP
25. Boston College

[cartman]

bump for the stragglers. One hour to go.

[mckerney]

1. Texas
2. USC
3. Alabama
4. Miami
5. LSU
6. Georgia
7. Notre Dame
8. Penn State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Florida
11. Texas Tech
12. Florida State
13. UCLA
14. West Virginia
15. Louisville
16. Ohio State
17. Auburn
18. Oregon
19. Texas Christian
20. Fresno St.
21. Michigan
22. UTEP
23. Northwestern
24. South Florida
25. Wisconsin

[Joe]

my poll is fixed

[Joe]

Penn State is a questionable clock decision away from being undefeated. If those two seconds weren't put back on the clock at Michigan, they might well have won that game.

It was more than questionable, they were outright screwed. Penn State is more underrated than USC is overrated, which means by A LOT.

[VPI97]

1. Texas (2)
2. USC (3)
3. Alabama (4)
4. Miami (5)
5. Virginia Tech (1)
6. LSU (6)
7. Georgia (8)
8. Penn State (10)
9. Ohio State (11)
10. Florida (12)
11. West Virginia (13)
12. Florida State (7)
13. Auburn (15)
14. Notre Dame (17)
15. Texas Tech (18)
16. UCLA (9)
17. Oregon (19)
18. Wisconsin (14)
19. Louisville (21)
20. TCU (22)
21. Fresno State (23)
22. Colorado (24)
23. Georgia Tech (25)
24. Michigan (--)
25. UTEP (--)

Dropped: Boston College (16), California (20)

[cartman]

voting is now closed. Results to appear in a bit...

[kingfc22]

Sorry Cartman, work got in the way this week.

[SnDvls]

wrong week oops