Official New Board Mock Draft Thread

[Cuckoo]

Since we're not sure whether the old posts can be transferred, we should probably start this up again over here. We still have several open teams if anyone would like to join. Here's Wrigley's most updated list from the other board:

1 Cincinnati SCOOPER
2 Detroit detroit_fan
3 Houston cthomer5000
4 Chicago Hawaii Warrior
5 Dallas Cuckoo
6 Arizona sporrer17
7 Minnesota WSUCougar
8 Jacksonville MylesKnight
9 Carolina vtbub
10 Seattle BEE
11 Baltimore BFleming
12 St. Louis primelord
13 Washington Nothingman
14 New England (from Buffalo) BishopMVP
15 San Diego digamma
16 Kansas City sterlingice
17 New Orleans Doug5984
18 New Orleans (from Miami) Doug5984
19 New England BishopMVP
20 Denver soapy
21 Cleveland Bearcat729
22 New York Jets Samdari
23 Atlanta Celeval
24 Indianapolis Noble_Platypus
25 New York Giants sabotai
26 San Francisco Logan
27 Pittsburgh Aylmar
28 Tennessee Rich1033
29 Green Bay Mustang
30 Philadelphia bsak16
31 Oakland Craptacular
32 Oakland (from Tampa Bay) Craptacular

Miami dread
Tampa Bay gold101
Buffalo mckerney


If anyone's missing from this list, speak now. Wrigley, can you post the current rules here as they stand now?

[Craptacular]

Heck, I'll take Oakland.

[Cuckoo]

You're in Crap.

That leaves us needing 9 by my count.

[Aylmar]

I'll take Pittsburgh... :)

[BFleming]

Assuming they're still available, I'll give Baltimore a go...

Thanks,
BF

[Cuckoo]

You're both in.

Down to 7 needed.

[Rich1033]

I see my Titans are still available, so I will take tennessee.

[digamma]

Was it ever decided how trades will work?
From what I remember they will be allowed, but you can only trade picks. I assume, since we are only doing the first three rounds, we can only trade the first three picks. Why would someone take a fifth or sixth rounder they couldn't use?

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by digamma
Was it ever decided how trades will work?
From what I remember they will be allowed, but you can only trade picks. I assume, since we are only doing the first three rounds, we can only trade the first three picks. Why would someone take a fifth or sixth rounder they couldn't use?

I'm waiting for Wrigley to make this definitive, but I believe you're right. I think we decided that we will draft three rounds and that some members like Doug would aid the less knowledgable with top players by position.

Also, I think it was the consensus that we can trade picks within those three rounds only (no player, future year picks, or fourth-later round picks).

I guess Wrigley hasn't been to the new board yet. I assume he'll make this all definite when he comes around.

BTW, 6 teams left.

[detroit_fan]

We still planning on Monday?

[wrigleyfield]

justing making it over to the new board now.

rules and everything coming...

[wrigleyfield]

Excellent Job Cuckoo,

This is Up too Date (as of sat morn)
1 Cincinnati SCOOPER
2 Detroit detroit_fan
3 Houston cthomer5000
4 Chicago Hawaii Warrior
5 Dallas Cuckoo
6 Arizona sporrer17
7 Minnesota WSUCougar
8 Jacksonville MylesKnight
9 Carolina vtbub
10 Seattle BEE
11 Baltimore BFleming
12 St. Louis primelord
13 Washington Nothingman
14 New England (from Buffalo) BishopMVP
15 San Diego digamma
16 Kansas City sterlingice
17 New Orleans Doug5984
18 New Orleans (from Miami) Doug5984
19 New England BishopMVP
20 Denver soapy
21 Cleveland Bearcat729
22 New York Jets Samdari
23 Atlanta Celeval
24 Indianapolis Noble_Platypus
25 New York Giants sabotai
26 San Francisco Logan
27 Pittsburgh Aylmar
28 Tennessee Rich1033
29 Green Bay Mustang
30 Philadelphia bsak16
31 Oakland Craptacular
32 Oakland (from Tampa Bay) Craptacular

Miami dread

Only teams open Tampa Bay and Buffalo

[vtbub]

Carolina

[wrigleyfield]

The draft is 3 rounds

we start first thing monday

you get 24 hours on the clock, the clock starts when the team before you makes there pick. If you dont make your pick in 24 hours i will pick for you.

Trades are allowed, but, you can only trade picks with in our mock draft.
for example. you can trade a 3rd and your 1st to move up a couple spots in first round.
you can NOT trade 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, next years picks, current NFL players


egregious picks and trades may be rejected with a majority voice

there will be no clock on the weekend, people are still encouraged to make there picks if possible.

[wrigleyfield]

now only 3 teams open


30 Philadelphia open

open Tampa Bay no first round pick (2nd round pick either 31st or 32nd of second round) (32nd in they win SB, 31st if they lose)

Buffalo is open. no first round pick. first is 14th in 2nd round

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by wrigleyfield
4 teams open


26 San Francisco open

30 Philadelphia open

open Tampa Bay no first round pick (2nd round pick either 31st or 32nd of second round) (32nd in they win SB, 31st if they lose)

Buffalo is open. no first round pick. first is 14th in 2nd round

This is a good thing, all the teams open do not pick until very late...so we can start and it might be atleast a week before we get to these teams to give other people time to join.

[scooper]

Well, with the trading limitations, it looks like the Bengals will indeed be selecting Carson Palmer (not official until Monday.) I don't want to do it, but if I have to pick at 1.1, I may as well take the 1.1 guy. At least this way it will be realistic.

Bye Bye Asqueely Smith.

[wrigleyfield]

Do we think we have settled everything going into this?

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by wrigleyfield
Do we think we have settled everything going into this?

I think so.

Except... Do we want to keep it all confined to this one thread or should trade talk or actual picks be placed in separate ones?

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by Cuckoo
I think so.

Except... Do we want to keep it all confined to this one thread or should trade talk or actual picks be placed in separate ones?

I would say have a thread for DRAFT PICKS ONLY, meaning no posting in that thread at all unless it is your pick...to keep it clutter free and easy to read who has been picked and where....we can use this thread to discuss and trade talk and that stuff.

[WSUCougar]

Just a suggestion, but how about highlighting the team that is on the clock in red, such as:

1. Cincinnati
2. Detroit
.
.
.


OR, alternatively, have their deadline in red, such as:

1. Cincinnati Deadline: 1/27, 6:00 a.m. EST
2. Detroit

[wrigleyfield]

so were pretty much set then. if people do want to trade now is the time to start talking.


from my end,
i'm going to update my mock draft for my web page now. from there...

i plan on preparing a little something for our mock draft. i'm the commish and i thought about also playing the part of ESPN and Mel Kiper for our mock draft.
that would include things like which player was just selected, where did he go to school, size, maybe i can find a brief bio.
also
-reminding people who the next 5 picks are.
-have my big board of top remaining players
-brief comments about the picks and trades (nothing to negative)


i may have those two things done by tonight, but may not be done till the morning of the superbowl. somewhere in between i'll finsh them, and when i do that i will start a new thread for picking only. from there we can start at any time.


what about the treads, we need one for picks, and one for these 3 things; (trade talk----comments about the picks----my little ESPN Mel Kiper thing)

[wrigleyfield]

WSUCougar, you idea is very good. i will include that


btw. i'm copying everything and including it on my NFL Draft 2003 posting board which has a link on the top right of the draft web site.

[Cuckoo]

Wrigley-

That's really cool. I know you probably have plenty of stuff to do, but if you do get a chance to do that commentary, I think it would be great and would give us all some prospective on the whole thing.

So, I guess we'll use this thread for trade talks and everything else. Then, Wrigley will make a new one for picks as soon as he's ready.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

[Logan]

If San Fran is still open, I'd like to have them...

[Bee]

Just a reminder...Mike Holmgren is still available for a 6-pack.

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by Bee
Just a reminder...Mike Holmgren is still available for a 6-pack.


I'll tell you what. I'll take Holmgren if you pay his salary and you take Jerry Jones.

[Doug5984]

Pro Football Huddles Mock Draft (http://footballhuddles.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?threadid=20236)

This is a draft that the guys over at The Pro Football Huddles are doing it, seems to be very similar to the way we will be doing the draft...and just wanted to show you guys how ours might turn out.

[wrigleyfield]

what they have going on that board is too much. it's interesting but


my new mock draft is up on the web site


where is all the trade talk?

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by wrigleyfield


where is all the trade talk?

Personally I am waiting to see who falls....if a player falls a little I might try trading up a little.

[Dr. Sak]

I'll take the Eagles if no one else has dibs on them

[wrigleyfield]

your in bask, the whole first round is set, i'll start the new thread now.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by wrigleyfield
your in bask, the whole first round is set, i'll start the new thread now.

is the other thread for posting picks, and trades that have been made only? (if so you might want to add that there so it doesn't get to cluttered)

[wrigleyfield]

i added something to it, how does it look now?

[cmp]

Is Tampa still open? If so I'll take them.

[wrigleyfield]

you got'em

[mckerney]

I'll take Buffalo if they're available

[Cuckoo]

So, I guess that only leaves Denver open. Come on guys. I know there are Bronco fans out there somewhere. :D

[Cuckoo]

Well... Did I miss somebody? Wrigley, you have soapy as Denver. I'm probably wrong, but I don't remember that one.

[wrigleyfield]

good eyes Cuckoo, Soapy is someone from my side of the tracks on the NFL's Draft web site's message boards. i'm copying everything over to there as well. he wanted the Broncos, i assume he do well.

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by wrigleyfield
good eyes Cuckoo, Soapy is someone from my side of the tracks on the NFL's Draft web site's message boards. i'm copying everything over to there as well. he wanted the Broncos, i assume he do well.

Okay, I thought I was going nuts. I was looking around at the old board and couldn't find anyone named soapy claiming the Broncos. I figured it might be the case that they claimed the Broncos at your site. So, is soapy definitely taking them over here?

[wrigleyfield]

Yes, every team is filled.

[Doug5984]

I found this trade value point chart over at the huddles board, and I figured i could post it here to help us w/ trading of picks...It looks pretty good to me...
Also, I cut it off at 110 since we are only going 3 rounds but where i got it from they go all the way to pick 224.

Posted by Madman over at the pro football huddles boards...
Draft pick value chart (http://www.footballhuddles.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?threadid=20820)
As for the trade itself, the following point system was used:

2003 values:
Pick Value
1 2967
2 2568
3 2248
4 1990
5 1781
6 1613
7 1477
8 1368
9 1281
10 1213
11 1162
12 1126
13 1103
14 1093
15 936
16 923
17 911
18 898
19 885
20 871
21 858
22 844
23 830
24 816
25 801
26 787
27 773
28 758
29 743
30 729
31 714
32 700
33 685
34 670
35 656
36 642
37 627
38 613
39 599
40 585
41 571
42 557
43 544
44 530
45 517
46 504
47 491
48 478
49 466
50 453
51 441
52 430
53 418
54 406
55 395
56 384
57 373
58 363
59 353
60 342
61 333
62 323
63 314
64 304
65 295
66 287
67 278
68 270
69 262
70 254
71 246
72 239
73 231
74 224
75 217
76 211
77 204
78 198
79 192
80 186
81 180
82 175
83 169
84 164
85 159
86 154
87 149
88 145
89 140
90 136
91 132
92 128
93 124
94 120
95 116
96 113
97 109
98 106
99 103
100 99
101 96
102 94
103 91
104 88
105 86
106 83
107 81
108 78
109 76
110 74


It's a little heavy at the top, but you can see that what the Bears offered is hardly overpaying. It's a fair deal for both teams.

[detroit_fan]

I don't plan on trading my 1st pick

[vtbub]

SCOOPER,

Talk to me about the number 1 pick.

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by vtbub
SCOOPER,

Talk to me about the number 1 pick.

Wait a second. Do you mean that Chris Weinke might not be your QB of the future? :D

[vtbub]

lol, I wouldn't rest the future of my team on a qb that couldn't read Oklahoma's defense. No offense towards the Sooners, but great players beat the best competition in college.

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by vtbub
lol, I wouldn't rest the future of my team on a qb that couldn't read Oklahoma's defense. No offense towards the Sooners, but great players beat the best competition in college.

Agree 100%. Plus, OU doesn't really do a ton of stuff. They pretty much play a zone all the time and rarely go man. They just bring blitzes from a bunch of different places, have a ton of speed, and do what they do very well. A patient quarterback, though, should be able to complete passes against them.

[wrigleyfield]

bump

[scooper]

Vtub,

You have a PM

For all, I will have the pick traded or I will make my pick by noon. Hopefully sooner.

[wrigleyfield]

thanks for being on the ball Scooper

[scooper]

When I pick, I will give a small commentary but could say much more. For the sake of keeping the picks thread from getting crowded, I suggest we open a new thread for commentary on our own picks and other teams picks. As I prepare my own commentary, I see it getting too long for the picks thread.

[wrigleyfield]

ok, i will do that now

[Bee]

Any way we might get the pick thread stickied?

Is stickied a word? It should be. :D

[wrigleyfield]

we should do that, who should i ask?

[scooper]

By this discussion, it's pretty much been asked. The moderators are SkyDog and Ryan S.

By the way, wrigleyfield, nice job on your draft site.

[wrigleyfield]

really, there that on top of the board? impressive.

thanks scooper, you made a very solid pick, thats what i would have done.

[cthomer5000]

the #3 pick is available for trade, private message me with offers.

[wrigleyfield]

Houston is looking to move down, who is looking to move up?

[Craptacular]

Wrigley,

I thought we were going for 24 hours per pick (from when the previous selection is made). You listed 2 PM eastern on WED for cthomer ... that's almost 2 full days.

oh yeah, change the subject so it shows cthomer on the clock ...

[wrigleyfield]

i had made some miscalculations with the clock, it should be set now. double checking for me in future wouldn't hurt

[Craptacular]

I'm not sure if this was suggested before, but why doesn't each person who makes a pick send a PM to the next person in line, telling them what time (eastern to be consistent) they made their pick? I guess the final deadline is up to Wrigley, but the next person knows that they basically have 24 hours from that point. This is just in case someone isn't following along closely and their pick comes up more quickly than they might have expected.

[wrigleyfield]

i edited the thread 4 times and put chomer on the clock. it shows that on the subject of the post but not on the subject of the thread which still reads "detriot_fan"

??

[wrigleyfield]

it still wont let me edit the name of the thread? i dunno, i did it earlier.

btw. this is a link with the full draft order. use only the first 3 rounds

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/2003DRAFT/draftorderRD.htm

[sterlingice]

This one is really handy, too:

1-97 are in the first three rounds and this list is by teams.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/2003DRAFT/draftorderTM.htm

SI

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by Craptacular
I'm not sure if this was suggested before, but why doesn't each person who makes a pick send a PM to the next person in line, telling them what time (eastern to be consistent) they made their pick? I guess the final deadline is up to Wrigley, but the next person knows that they basically have 24 hours from that point. This is just in case someone isn't following along closely and their pick comes up more quickly than they might have expected.

that's a great idea.

[wrigleyfield]

for our Selections Thread, i would really like to include the name of the team on the clock, for whatever reason i can't do this. any thoughts?

i agree the idea above is good

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by wrigleyfield
for our Selections Thread, i would really like to include the name of the team on the clock, for whatever reason i can't do this. any thoughts?


EDIT: I'm not sure what the problem is. I just made a thread, and editied to subject twice. It showed up in the forum correctly. Try again, maybe it's just something weird with this that thread?

[wrigleyfield]

i have tired atleast 10 times. i doesn't work which is weird b/c it worked once already when i swaped the bengals and lions

[wrigleyfield]

great :( i just changed the other thread with no problem.

[Cuckoo]

bump -

trying to keep them all on the front page :D

[MylesKnight]

I would like to trade all of my picks for as high a 1st Round Pick as possible..

Just call me the Mike Ditka of the FOFC Draft..

[scooper]

Originally posted by MylesKnight
I would like to trade all of my picks for as high a 1st Round Pick as possible..

Just call me the Mike Ditka of the FOFC Draft..

Where were you yesterday? You could have gotten all the way to #1.

[wrigleyfield]

timing is everything. dont wait guys.

[wrigleyfield]

we had a deal. check it out and keep them coming

[Cuckoo]

The Cardinals are on the clock.