Infinite Crisis

[WVUFAN]

I've been here a few weeks now, and it seems there's no topic that's taboo here, so here's my question on comic books -- anyone out there reading Infinite Crisis? What do you guys think of it so far?

[DaddyTorgo]

fisting is taboo

[Shkspr]

Spoilers, obviously:





I hated the premise behind DC's Identity Crisis (though as a comics arc I was satisfied with it on a technical level), but at least it was mostly self contained. Infinite Crisis is for me in many ways the opposite - since it touches on almost every DC title out there, I don't feel as though I'm getting anywhere near the complete story, and I think I'd have to follow every book in the DCU to pick up on how each character will be affected.

That said, the crux of the idea we've been presented with is actually pretty cool.

For those that remember Crisis on Infinite Earths, essentially every parallel universe DC ever created was folded into the "modern" or Silver Age of the DCU, with weird things like two different Supermen (at differing ages) and Superboy existing simultaneously having to be explained away or fixed. The idea revealed in this series?

The wrong universe got saved. All the 'bad' things that have happened in continuity since then - the ravaging of Gotham, the destruction of Coast City and the Green Lantern Corps, Death's revolving door (witness the rebirths of Superman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Donna Troy, and Jason Todd), and the general grimness and bloodthirstiness that have developed in the DCU over the last two decades - are symptoms of the mistake that was made. Heroes from what would be termed the "Golden Age" of DC comics have emerged to try and set things right and change the world of today into one that more closely hews to the Golden Era. It's like a comic book version of the Republican Revolution.

It's a very cool concept on the surface, but even more amazing in its subtext, given what it suggest's DC's editorial attitude today towards the last twenty years has become. It could go a long way to recapturing the sense of wonder that iconic heroes like Superman and Batman represent in American culture.

Of course, it won't. Comics companies have tried to replicate the success of Crisis so many times that it just can't be done. In addition, if the plotline actually succeeds in going where it suggests, the resulting editorial course for the company will irrevocably alter, which will result in a universe which no longer reflects the real world. The overriding mantra of the comics industry is that its product began to mature and see financial and cultural success because it was able to accurately reflect the real world and the lives of its readers. For better or worse, the world has earned the DCU it has been given, and that's probably why comics are written the way they are.

And if Subby can become Chris, then "fisting" can become "cuddling".

[Karlifornia]

THIS is Taboo:



http://www.relia.net/~thedane/photo_taboo1.jpg


(You wouldn't believe the things I saw while google-imaging the word "taboo")

[JasonC23]

(witness the rebirths of...Jason Todd)
I haven't read comics in 10 years, so to this, I say,

WTF?!?!?:eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :( :(

[Bonegavel]

I'm having my own crisis now... there was a similar (Identity Crisis) post title to this that had nothing to do with comics and when I went into that one, I thought it was going to be about the DC comics.

I knew i had posted to that thread and didn't see my "posted to" indicator for this thread and thought somehow my post had been erased.

I come in here expecting to see my stuff missing and it is about the comic.

AHHHHHHHH!

[cuervo72]

I first thought the title of this thread was "Infinite Chrises".

[WSUCougar]

I first thought the title of this thread was "Infinite Chrises".
Speaking as a Chris, I can state without reservation that we are most definitely finite.

[Raiders Army]

Personally I thought the storyline for Identity Crisis was great, although many heroes were portrayed out of character.

I've read the first two issues of Infinite Crisis and I'm not sure I like it yet. I like the fact that we find out what happens to Alexander Luthor, Superboy-Prime, Superman from Earth 2, and Lois from Earth 2, but I'm not a big fan of the huge crossovers where they try to jam as many characters in the story as they can.

I've followed Marvel more than DC for most of my life, but have recently gotten JLA, Flash, Green Lantern, and All-Star Batman and Robin. I was not aware that Power Girl was from Earth 2. That was a huge surprise.

[SFL Cat]

Where's the poll?

[Shkspr]

I haven't read comics in 10 years, so to this, I say,

WTF?!?!?:eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :( :(

To be fair, the idea that characters can return from beyond the veil so easily is remarked upon as one of the really bad things that isn't supposed to happen if the universe were in a truly healthy state, and Jason Todd's reappearance (as a vigilante/villain called the Red Hood) was surely an editorial decision made after the plans for InC were determined. Same with Donna Troy coming back from the dead.

Bring back Sue Dibny! (Or at least let me write my series about the Elongated Man...)

[WVUFAN]

To be fair, the idea that characters can return from beyond the veil so easily is remarked upon as one of the really bad things that isn't supposed to happen if the universe were in a truly healthy state, and Jason Todd's reappearance (as a vigilante/villain called the Red Hood) was surely an editorial decision made after the plans for InC were determined. Same with Donna Troy coming back from the dead.

Bring back Sue Dibny! (Or at least let me write my series about the Elongated Man...)
They brought back Bucky too.

[Raiders Army]

Elongated Man was a shitty concept. Plastic Man (cartoon series and stupid costume notwithstanding) is so much more powerful.

It's sort of like Yellowjacket and Giant Man. If all you need is "Pym particles" or gingold to become a superhero, it's stupid. At least Iron Man creates his own armor and there are a finite number of people who can operate it.

[Marc Vaughan]

Love comics and graphic novels ...

If you've been hooked on soccer via. FM or ISS then I'd recommend '4Aces' ... the first few especially are quite cool (they're about young kids breaking through at a Premiership football club).

[Shkspr]

Elongated Man was a shitty concept. Plastic Man (cartoon series and stupid costume notwithstanding) is so much more powerful.

It's sort of like Yellowjacket and Giant Man. If all you need is "Pym particles" or gingold to become a superhero, it's stupid. At least Iron Man creates his own armor and there are a finite number of people who can operate it.

Bah! Plastic Man? You probably watched Shirt Tales as a child, too.

Plastic Man is a prop comedian. Ralph and Sue Dibny were the Nick and Nora Charles of the DCU...or should have been, at any rate.

[Raiders Army]

Obviously you didn't see where he was the most powerful member of the JLA. ;)