Poll: Where do FOFC'ers live?

[Dutch]

Just out of curiosity,

Americans often speak of their country as one of several large regions. These regions are cultural units rather than governmental units -- formed by history and geography and shaped by the economics, literature and folkways that all the parts of a region share. What makes one region different from another? A region's multicultural heritage as well as distinct demographic characteristics like age and occupation also make regions different and special. Within several regions, language is used differently and there are strong dialects. There are also differences in outlook and attitude based on geography.
www.usinfo.pl/aboutusa/travel/regions.htm

STATES REGIONS

New England - Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont

Mid Atlantic - Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania

The South - Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia

Midwest - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, Wisconsin

Southwest - Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas

West - Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0770177.html

And Elsewhere = The World Minus the USA.

Hope that helps! :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

I don't know. I'm new here. Is Greensburg, PA, part of the Mid-Atlantic, or is it part of the Midwest?

[terpkristin]

Ashburn, VA REPRESENT! ;)

/tk

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm originally from the Mid-Atlantic, but now live in the South (in large part due to marrying a Southern Woman.)

[cthomer5000]

By this breakdown, New England. Though I know no one who lives in New Jersey (myself included) would feel comfortable considering themselves part of the "New England" region.

Northeast would have been a better descriptor.

[st.cronin]

I think NJ is mid-atlantic. Mid-atlantic is New York to Maryland, imo.

[Eaglesfan27]

By this breakdown, New England. Though I know no one who lives in New Jersey (myself included) would feel comfortable considering themselves part of the "New England" region.

Northeast would have been a better descriptor.
I always thought NJ was part of the Mid Atlantic? I'm from NJ.

[cthomer5000]

I think NJ is mid-atlantic. Mid-atlantic is New York to Maryland, imo. I thought so too, but NJ appears to be in the New England grouping if you follow that link.

I think Dutch should have listed the states next to the options, because this is just going to cause a lot of confusion.

edit: actually it appears to get some mention in both. whoops if i fucked up there.

[Dutch]

I updated with a list of states, hopefully they are all included. Pulled straight from another web source.

[terpkristin]

Hmm.
By that list, I live in the SOUTH!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

/tk

[Buccaneer]

By this breakdown, New England. Though I know no one who lives in New Jersey (myself included) would feel comfortable considering themselves part of the "New England" region.

Northeast would have been a better descriptor.
Come on, Corey, you should have known that.

By the way, to go academic on you guys, those regions are census-designated governmental region - therefore, partially invalidating the claim that these are cultural regions. Read this carefully: regional boundaries do not follow state boundaries. Any claim that two states represent the border of a region (e.g., New York and Vermont, Ohio and Pennsylvania, etc.), is either a government lackey or geographic-illiterate. Obviously, there are some states that are wholly within a region (e.g., Georgia is all South and New Hampshire is all New England).

Since this was the subject matter for my Masters degree (really), at the time I believed in the "Nine Nations" of North America regional delineations. It has been 20 years since Joel wrote his book so I'd be curious as to what changes have occured.

To further complicate this, there is this dichotomy of urban/rural within a region. For example, my thesis was on the delineation of the Deep North region which is the "agricultural midwest" - but only for the non-(intensely) urban counties. Cook County, Illinois is not part of the Deep North (even though it does act as a hub for the "Breadbasket" nine-nation region), it just exist as a national microcosm. There are really several ways of looking at regions, from a continental view of the Nine-Nations to a state's sub-regions (which actually is my favorite subject).

[Buccaneer]

Hmm.
By that list, I live in the SOUTH!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

/tk
Don't worry about it, tk, only the federal govt makes you believe that.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I live in Washington, DC which apparently is either the Mid Atlantic or The South.

[ThunderingHERD]

Kannapolis, NC. Birth place of Dale Earnhardt, baby!!! ;)

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

We live in the Wild Wild West. I think in some parts of the state, stealing a man's horse can get you hanged.

[cartman]

Texas is a different beast. The part of the state from about I-35 east considers themselves south, and the Panhandle and West Texas consider themselves west. From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico... :D

I consider myself Southern, much more than midwest or western.

[Airhog]

Wierd, I always thought of oklahoma as more of a midwestern state, but I guess its not

[kcchief19]

I must abstain because in no way, shape or form can I recognize Missouri as a "South" state. It's a Midwestern state. We don't have a NASCAR track and we didn't secede from the union. We have very little in common climatalogically, historically or culturally, except that a lot of folks in the Ozarks do say "y'all."

For what it's worth, the Census Bureau considers Missouri a Midwest state. There are four Census regions, the Northeast, South, Midwest and West. Each region has subdivisions as well, i.e. the Northeast consists of New England and the Mid-Atlantic.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

[Lorena]

Arizona representing the SOUTHWEST!

[Cringer]

Texas is a different beast. The part of the state from about I-35 east considers themselves south, and the Panhandle and West Texas consider themselves west. From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico... :D

I consider myself Southern, much more than midwest or western.

It's just Texas, that should be an option on it's own.

And to Dutch, you can answer for me since I live with your momma. :D

[st.cronin]

I don't know if this is exactly on topic or not, but I read a magazine article recently that suggested a correlation between populations of feral hogs and Bush voters.

[Dutch]

It's just Texas, that should be an option on it's own.

And to Dutch, you can answer for me since I live with your momma. :D

That's "sugamomma" to you. :)

[fantastic flying froggies]

Go Rest of the World! :D

[GreenMonster]

South should be any state that every restaurant has sweet tea.

[MrBug708]

I think Georgia should have a separate option :)

[Dutch]

Come on, Corey, you should have known that.

By the way, to go academic on you guys, those regions are census-designated governmental region - therefore, partially invalidating the claim that these are cultural regions. Read this carefully: regional boundaries do not follow state boundaries. Any claim that two states represent the border of a region (e.g., New York and Vermont, Ohio and Pennsylvania, etc.), is either a government lackey or geographic-illiterate. Obviously, there are some states that are wholly within a region (e.g., Georgia is all South and New Hampshire is all New England).

Since this was the subject matter for my Masters degree (really), at the time I believed in the "Nine Nations" of North America regional delineations. It has been 20 years since Joel wrote his book so I'd be curious as to what changes have occured.

To further complicate this, there is this dichotomy of urban/rural within a region. For example, my thesis was on the delineation of the Deep North region which is the "agricultural midwest" - but only for the non-(intensely) urban counties. Cook County, Illinois is not part of the Deep North (even though it does act as a hub for the "Breadbasket" nine-nation region), it just exist as a national microcosm. There are really several ways of looking at regions, from a continental view of the Nine-Nations to a state's sub-regions (which actually is my favorite subject).

And to further complicate matters it doesn't show southern Florida as one of New York's 6 'burbs.

[terpkristin]

South should be any state that every restaurant has sweet tea.I had a friend in undergrad who did the tours for prospective students. She (from Pennsylvania) used to say, "You know Maryland is in the south because they serve grits in the d-hall," to all of her tour groups.

They *did* serve grits in the d-hall. Unfortunately, they were abysmal.

/tk

[TonyR]

From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico... :D

Actually from the Nueces South is considered occupied territory. SA is more like the buffer zone between such. :D

[Tasan]

I abstain from this vote, as Texas is CLEARLY not in the 'southwest', it should have its own category. I mean, come on, my boss goes home for the holidays, drives almost 9 hours to get there on fast roads, and still doesn't leave the state. Come on.

[Buccaneer]

And to further complicate matters it doesn't show southern Florida as one of New York's 6 'burbs.
South Florida is actually part of the "latino" nation or whatever he called it (remember it looks at all of North America). Anyone can tell that South Florida is truly a different region than anything north of it. However, I do believe that the line has shifted somewhat northward in the past 20 years, exactly where I don't know, maybe a Floridian can better answer that.

[tarcone]

Missouri was a slave state during the civil war and if you have ever been in the boot heel, you would swear it is the "deep south". but i consider missouri a midwest state

[Dutch]

Missouri was a slave state during the civil war and if you have ever been in the boot heel, you would swear it is the "deep south". but i consider missouri a midwest state

I would never have guessed Missouri for the south. Go figure.

[DanGarion]

Um... Montana is the "West"?

WTF. I think it would be better to have Pacific, and west if they are putting Montana and Idaho with Washington, Oregon, and California. But then what do I know.

[MrBug708]

Stupid west coaster!!! Putting logic into a poll!

[DanGarion]

Stupid west coaster!!! Putting logic into a poll!
...
*kicks the Bruin fan* :)

[gstelmack]

Didn't we have a google map with all of us on it?

[Greyroofoo]

this was the google map link but it doesn't work now

http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guestmap.jsp?id=fofc&locale=en

[tucker342]

Iowa representin'!:)