Bozey Bozey Bop! Diddy Bop! ADIOS Diamond Dave!

[Toddzilla]

And this is the biggest travesty of a radio show in history. Someone is getting fired for putting him behind a microphone...

I'm not qa fan of Howard Stern by any stretch, but commercial morning radio is officially dead. Free radio only has one name left - Rush Limbaugh - and if he ever decides to retire or go to satellite, it's over.

[moriarty]

Has he started yet? Is it as awful as I can only imagine?

[jeff061]

Everyone is making fun of him for interviewing his uncle for an hour, who is apparently just your average old guy.

[rkmsuf]

Everyone is making fun of him for interviewing his uncle for an hour, who is apparently just your average old guy.


That was the best they could come up with for the grand opening week of the show?

[Bonegavel]

So far it is pretty unlistenable.

Beyond the inanity of the content, his voice grates on me like fingernails to a chalkboard.

After Howard became a huge success, the show became stale and had only occasional classic moments. Even so, it was light years ahead of DLR. Granted, he has only been on the air for 2 days, but I can't see this working any time soon.

By himself, DLR will not be able to grab an audience. He needs to surround himself with good writers to give him funny/interesting content, oh, just like Howard.

[sachmo71]

And this is the biggest travesty of a radio show in history. Someone is getting fired for putting him behind a microphone...

I'm not qa fan of Howard Stern by any stretch, but commercial morning radio is officially dead. Free radio only has one name left - Rush Limbaugh - and if he ever decides to retire or go to satellite, it's over.


While I agree that David Lee Roth is the pits, I find it hard to believe that there isn't someone, somewhere who can be just as successful on free radio as Stern was.

[CraigSca]

Well, at least he has his music career to fall back on.

[Toddzilla]

If anyone is going to emerge from commercial radio to become a mega-star, it's going to have to be someone who already has name recognition and has serious radio chops. I don't think the current landscape has the patience to let some newcomer, no matter how talented, to develop into a mega star. Nor do I believe someone who is entertaining otherwise will by default become a big radio star. See Dave.

Does Adam Corrola have a chance? He could if he commits himself to radio 24x7x365. He's got the talent, he's funny, can run a show, has done it before (LoveLine). If he can give up the distractions - like that stupid TLC show - he's got a chance.

[johneh]

I Agree - the David Lee Roth show SUCKS!

And why does he have to keep turning that music up for 2 seconds between every sentence when he speaks ?

I guess I will give in & buy Sirius.

[cthomer5000]

The state of radio, and especially New York radio, is fucking sickening. And trust me, I work with the clowns running the circus, it's scary on the inside.

[Toddzilla]

Per dcrtv.com, DLR has been canned. Vaya con dios, Dave.

[jeff061]

That's great. What a legendary screw up this was. Rumors were he not only stunk on the radio, but he was an ill-prepared slacker and a mega jerk off it.

[sachmo71]

Per dcrtv.com, DLR has been canned. Vaya con dios, Dave.


what is that? I can't find anything on google news.

[wade moore]

from hxxp://www.dcrtv.com


DLR Gone - 3/29 - http://www.dcrtv.com/roth.jpgThis just in: CBS Radio has removed the low-rated David Lee Roth (right) from his post-Howard Stern morning slot at the company's stations in NYC, Philadelphia, Boston, and Pittsburgh. Just in time for the spring ratings sweep, which starts tomorrow. "JV And Elvis" now airs in NYC, at least. CBS recently flipped Philadelphia rocker WYSP, which carried Stern in morning drive, to "Free FM" all-talk with Roth in mornings. And it has plunged from 4th to 19th place in the ratings. We'll get more info later today about how the Junkies are doing as Stern's replacement at DC's WJFK-FM and Baltimore's WHFS when another round of Arbitrends gets released.....

[gottimd]

We'll get more info later today about how the Junkies are doing as Stern's replacement at DC's WJFK-FM and Baltimore's WHFS when another round of Arbitrends gets released.....

I wonder what this comparison is like. I often listened to the Junkies over Stern. And isn't WHFS (99.1) an all latin music format now?

[wade moore]

I wonder what this comparison is like. I often listened to the Junkies over Stern. And isn't WHFS (99.1) an all latin music format now?

99.1 (EL Zol!!!!) is Latin now. The WHFS label went over to 105.1 in Baltimore, so this is the WHFS they are referring to. WHFS 105.1 is Free-FM now.

See earlier in this thread where they talk about the Junkies. Yeah, they're down from Stern, but it doesn't sound like it's all THAT bad if you think about it realistically.

I listen to them on a regular basis. They are about the same as they used to be, if not a little less sports even. I imagine they'll never get Stern-like ratings but should compete well with Elliot and the like in DC.

[Toddzilla]

I wonder what this comparison is like. I often listened to the Junkies over Stern. And isn't WHFS (99.1) an all latin music format now?Yep - WHFS flipped all of a sudden last year. WJFK was all too happy to take the Junks back knowing Stern was leaving for satellite. The Junkies did mid-days for about a year - even raising the ire of Stern himself when JFK decided to start the Junkies program on time everyday at 10 AM and cut Stern's show off. Then WJFK announced that the Junkies would be the DC and Baltimore replacement on their "Free FM" stations in 2006 when Stern left the air.

The rumors are that if the Junkies' ratings are good enough, they may take over the NY, Boston, and Philly "Free FM" morning drive spots in those cities.

While that's not quite as big as the "Cold Pizza" gig on ESPN2 they turned down, it doesn't get much bigger in radio than morning drive in NYC.

[JonInMiddleGA]

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_03_29/cbsdavid.asp

Wednesday, March 29, 2006


CBS: David Lee Roth Will Return Friday


CBS Radio spokesperson Karen Mateo tells R&R, "Contrary to erroneous reports, David Lee Roth has not been let go. He is on his way back from Miami and is scheduled to return to the air on Friday."

Roth's unscheduled day off on Wednesday certainly didn't help the rumor mill cycle down for the past 24 hours. According to Roth's website, he's in Miami, reportedly attending the Winter Music Conference, and the rumblings emanating from South Beach claimed Roth didn't get any sleep Monday night and needed some time off.

JV & Elvis, the midday duo on Roth's Free FM flagship WFNY/New York, were hastily pressed into service to fill in for Roth this morning, while night jock Booker is filling in on middays.

[Ksyrup]

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By LARRY McSHANE
Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK

No surprise: David Lee Roth's run as morning radio host is about done. Big surprise: It appears raunchy satellite radio stars Opie and Anthony will replace him on seven CBS Radio stations.
A deal was in the works to dump the ex-Van Halen singer's ratings- deprived program with shock jocks Greg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia, according to two people with knowledge of the deal. They spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity pending an official announcement of the agreement next week.
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Opie and Anthony were banished from terrestrial radio in 2002 _ oddly enough by their new boss, CBS Radio _ after airing a live account of listeners having sex in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral. CBS Radio was then known as Infinity Broadcasting.
Opie and Anthony resurfaced on XM in October 2004. The satellite radio provider has more than 6.5 million subscribers, with the Opie and Anthony show one of the most popular programs on its 170 channels.
XM will now syndicate the program to the stations in New York and six other markets, with three hours of the program airing on the CBS Radio stations, the people familiar with the deal said. XM will simultaneously broadcast that portion of the show, along with another two hours of exclusive O&A, they said.
A spokeswoman at CBS Radio declined to comment on the report, as did a spokesman for XM.
Roth's radio career began in January, when he replaced Howard Stern on the CBS stations. But reviews were poor and Roth fought with management over the show's format, putting the show on the skids less than four months into its run.
Roth, during one angry on-air rant, predicted the show could be yanked before May.
The move marks a shift in the dynamic between terrestrial and satellite radio. In the past, satellite raided terrestrial radio for big-name hosts such as Opie and Anthony or Stern. Now, the seven FM stations will rely on a syndicated satellite program.
In addition to the Free-FM station in New York, Opie and Anthony will reportedly air on WBCN-FM in Boston, WYSP-FM in Philadelphia, WRKZ-FM in Pittsburgh, WNCX-FM in Cleveland, WPBZ-FM in West Palm Beach, Fla., and KLLI-FM in Dallas. Stern, who engaged in a lengthy on-air feud with Opie and Anthony, is in his first year of broadcasting for Sirius Satellite Radio. O&A will now fill in his old time slot.

[Klinglerware]

Ah, so there really is no such thing as a career-ending move in radio. It sure looks like Free FM in NY is recreating the old WNEW talk lineup piece by piece. First Radio Chick, now O&A...

[JonInMiddleGA]

One of the kickers to the O&A rumor (which is very hot & heavy in all the trade papers since yesterday) is that they will be allowed to freely cross-promote XM on the broadcast stations that carry them ... the exact same thing that CBS is suing Stern for doing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ah, so there really is no such thing as a career-ending move in radio.

Nope, hasn't been in years.

[jeff061]

One of the kickers to the O&A rumor (which is very hot & heavy in all the trade papers since yesterday) is that they will be allowed to freely cross-promote XM on the broadcast stations that carry them ... the exact same thing that CBS is suing Stern for doing.

If that's true I'd imagine that CBS's desperation is off the charts.

[heybrad]

One of the kickers to the O&A rumor (which is very hot & heavy in all the trade papers since yesterday) is that they will be allowed to freely cross-promote XM on the broadcast stations that carry them ... the exact same thing that CBS is suing Stern for doing.
If that's true is makes absolutely no sense on so many different levels.

[CraigSca]

I just wanted to say that this thread wins my vote as "Best Thread Title of the Year".

[cthomer5000]

If that's true I'd imagine that CBS's desperation is off the charts.

It's definitely true, and CBS radio is definitely desperate. I wish I could say more, but it'd probably get me fired.

[Toddzilla]

It is ironic, for sure, but at the same time this is a coup for CBS. I imagine the ratings are going to go through the roof - not to the Pre-Roth Stern levels, but I wouldn't be surprised if they double or even triple.

And IMO, all of this is a seperate issue from the Stern lawsuit, so I don't see how you can make a comparison there.

[rkmsuf]

I don't get how they are going to edit this thing to FCC delight. Either the XM portion suffers or the free radio verision is just one continuous bleep.

[DeToxRox]

One thing I love about Detroit: Drew & Mike

Far and away better then Stern and any other morning broadcast.

[jeff061]

Connecticut has nothing. Half way to work(Providence) I can pick up WAAF and WBCN. Hillman edging out Roth.

Or maybe Dennis and Callahan on WEEI if I feel like taking out a window with my fist.

[rkmsuf]

Connecticut has nothing. Half way to work(Providence) I can pick up WAAF and WBCN. Hillman edging out Roth.

WFAN?

[jeff061]

Haven't checked that out yet, I'll give it a shot.

[rkmsuf]

Haven't checked that out yet, I'll give it a shot.

Love WFAN except for IMUS. Mike and the Maddog is the best.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I don't get how they are going to edit this thing to FCC delight. Either the XM portion suffers or the free radio verision is just one continuous bleep.

Here's a snippet from fmqb.com on that very issue

The duo's XM show, while sometimes crossing into FCC objectionable material, has generally been clean for terrestrial radio's airwaves, barring some curse words that will need to be edited out of the program.

Earlier this year, O&A held a "Super Ball" contest with three male contestants going through different forms of genital torture, including an "ultimate challenge" where a contraption filled with bees and wasps was connected to the contestants' scrotum. While one radio station recently copied the contest, this type of material might not fly in the new FCC-driven world of clean content on the nation's airwaves. O&A were last on terrestrial radio in a fulltime capacity before the Janet Jackson breast-baring incident.

Point being (I think) that the language, Carlin's Dirty Words, isn't really their problem per se, it's the overall content that causes concern. Remember, it wasn't what they said that got them fired from Infinity in the first place, it was what they did/caused to be done (the sex-in-the-church stunt).

And, to avoid a dola, I'll tag on something else in this post -- I get the distinctions that can be made between the CBS situations with Stern vs O&A: they'll have contractual permission to cross promote whereas Stern didn't, etc., but given the history between the two shows (Stern recently admitted having mgmt put O&A under a gag order about him, basically the two shows can't stand each other by most accounts), I can't help but think the hiring of O&A is being driven at least in part by the petty fact that Stern can't stand them.

[Franklinnoble]

From what I've heard, O&A is like 65% profanity (again... I haven't actually listened to the show - this is just what I hear).

So, they're going to bleep the heck out of it? Or ask them to tone it down?

I don't get it... why not just kiss-and-make-up with Stern if you're going to do this...

[Toddzilla]

From what I've heard, O&A is like 65% profanity (again... I haven't actually listened to the show - this is just what I hear).

So, they're going to bleep the heck out of it? Or ask them to tone it down?

I don't get it... why not just kiss-and-make-up with Stern if you're going to do this...

Listening to the show on a nearly daily basis, O&A are about 5% profanity, if that. Objectionable? Closer to 80%

[rkmsuf]

It seems like a total dumb move. Consider that the Stern audience doesn't care for O&A to begin with.

I guess they are probably coming cheap though with the cross promotion deal and I'm sure Viacom wants to tweak Stern.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I don't get it... why not just kiss-and-make-up with Stern if you're going to do this...

The older I get, the more I realize just how much in life is driven by ego.
I'm watching a situation go down right now (that I can't really talk about) that is absolutely asinine from a business/financial perspective but that's been easily overridden by ego concerns. And we're talking sink a 100's of millions of dollars a year type company over a couple of petty egos, rather than "what makes the most, or even any, business sense".

It's downright staggering to watch really.

[Toddzilla]

Well, they're on WNEW right now.

I've been listening for about 45 minutes and you can really tell O&A are trying very hard to hold back - Jimmy Norton hasn't said 3 words.

[cthomer5000]

Well, they're on WNEW right now.

Wrong station.

[Toddzilla]

WFNW - my bad - pwned by the radio guy :)

[Maple Leafs]

So when they intentionally cross the line, get booted off of CBS, and soak up all the free publicity for their satellite show... we're all going to act surprised, right?

[jeff061]

At the very least I'll point and laugh at CBS.

[Toddzilla]

LOL - I get the feeling O&A (XM too) are basically looking at this deal as a 3-hour long commercial for thier XM show. A commercial which they are getting paid to do as well, so we'll see.

[JonInMiddleGA]

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman/publish/cat_index_31.asp

Is Howard Stern mulling a return to terrestrial radio?
Howard Stern does not like having his thunder stolen, and that’s exactly what XM Radio shock jocks Opie & Anthony did when they became the first satellite hosts to broadcast their show on terrestrial radio. Now Stern, the highest-profile name to move from terrestrial to satellite, claims he’s on the brink of signing a similar agreement. On yesterday’s show, the King of All Media claimed that he’d been offered a major deal to rebroadcast his satellite show on traditional radio. Of course much of his yakking about it yesterday was aimed at O&A, who took over Stern’s old slot on CBS Radio, including his old NYC station, last month after David Lee Roth’s show flopped. “Can you imagine if I go across town against them in all those markets and just kick some ass? That would really be cool,” Stern said on-air yesterday. He did not mention where the offer had come from, though The New York Post speculates that it may be Citadel Broadcasting, headed by former CBS Radio executive Farid Suleman, who obviously has worked with Stern before. Citadel is buying ABC Radio, which includes WABC, WPLJ and WEPN in New York.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And, in an unrelated story (that really doesn't deserve its own thread IMO but I wanted to put it somewhere) ...

from today's www.radioandrecords.com
CC Signs Whoopi Goldberg For New Morning Show


With a stated mission of "welcoming back women to morning drive radio," Clear Channel has signed comedian, Oscar-winning actor and noted humanitarian Whoopi Goldberg to host a new wakeup program set to begin on July 31. The New York-based program will air weekday mornings from 5-9am nationwide and is expected to appeal in particular to AC radio stations. Described as a blend of daily topics, comedy, listener call-ins, guests and locally programmed music, Wake Up With Whoopi will be syndicated through Premiere Radio Networks.

"Radio is an area I have always wanted to play in," Goldberg said about her upcoming morning show. "There aren't many women helming their own show. I'm thrilled to add my name to that small list because I believe we have something to add to the morning groove."
...
CC Radio VP/Programming Sean Compton tells R&R that a flagship station and charter affiliates for Goldberg's morning show will be announced in early July. But he hinted that a number of major stations are already on board. Asked what attracted the company to Goldberg as a morning radio personality, Compton said, "Our research showed that if we wanted to attract a lot of women back to AC in morning drive, we needed a big name that brings with them humor and a big tune-in factor. I think Whoopi's face on a billboard with your call letters next to it is going to create a huge tune-in factor that will draw women to the radio. She's definitely right in the core of the format's audience and she will offer stations a show that will be not only funny and entertaining, but also — as many of our AC stations position themselves — safe for the whole family."

[rkmsuf]

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman/publish/cat_index_31.asp

Is Howard Stern mulling a return to terrestrial radio?
Howard Stern does not like having his thunder stolen, and that’s exactly what XM Radio shock jocks Opie & Anthony did when they became the first satellite hosts to broadcast their show on terrestrial radio. Now Stern, the highest-profile name to move from terrestrial to satellite, claims he’s on the brink of signing a similar agreement. On yesterday’s show, the King of All Media claimed that he’d been offered a major deal to rebroadcast his satellite show on traditional radio. Of course much of his yakking about it yesterday was aimed at O&A, who took over Stern’s old slot on CBS Radio, including his old NYC station, last month after David Lee Roth’s show flopped. “Can you imagine if I go across town against them in all those markets and just kick some ass? That would really be cool,” Stern said on-air yesterday. He did not mention where the offer had come from, though The New York Post speculates that it may be Citadel Broadcasting, headed by former CBS Radio executive Farid Suleman, who obviously has worked with Stern before. Citadel is buying ABC Radio, which includes WABC, WPLJ and WEPN in New York.

granted the other half of that segment was him saying he would never do it but nevermind that. or that he had already turned it down and wouldn't say who had made the offer.

[JonInMiddleGA]

granted the other half of that segment was him saying he would never do it but nevermind that. or that he had already turned it down and wouldn't say who had made the offer.

I just post 'em, I don't write 'em ;)

[rkmsuf]

I just post 'em, I don't write 'em ;)

I know. Just makes me laugh at the stuff that gets written to generate things.

[Franklinnoble]

I don't get it... won't the Sirius and XM folks lose a ton of money by letting this happen? The whole reason why they threw buckets of cash at these morons was to get their idiot audiences to run out and buy satellite radio units and subscriptions... but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?

[Ramzavail]

I don't get it... won't the Sirius and XM folks lose a ton of money by letting this happen? The whole reason why they threw buckets of cash at these morons was to get their idiot audiences to run out and buy satellite radio units and subscriptions... but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?

Good question, however, they do have another 2 or 3 hours on XM after they are off free radio, so thats maybe somewhat of a draw.

I think XM's new sub sales will suffer b/c of this but maybe they don't care or maybe CBS is paying some of O&A's XM salary, maybe thats how/why XM is doing it. Less expenses on the books.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I don't get it... won't the Sirius and XM folks lose a ton of money by letting this happen? The whole reason why they threw buckets of cash at these morons was to get their idiot audiences to run out and buy satellite radio units and subscriptions... but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?

Theory (and recent analysis) would appear to be that the big name acquisition have hit the point of diminishing returns; i.e. most of the people who were going to go out & buy satellite just because of Stern have already done so. Stern in particular, and other hyped personalities in generally, were basically loss leaders anyway, they weren't really expected to generate revenue equal to their cost but rather they would generate some sales and increase overall awareness.

The reality, IMO, is that the satellite companies are largely being run (into the ground) by as complete a collection of total idiots who wouldn't know how to make a profit if their lives depended on it.

[Wolfpack]

I don't get it... won't the Sirius and XM folks lose a ton of money by letting this happen? The whole reason why they threw buckets of cash at these morons was to get their idiot audiences to run out and buy satellite radio units and subscriptions... but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?

I'm guessing it depends on how juvenile and sophomoric the listener is. If they don't mind the deletions from the terrestrial show, they'll listen there, but those who absolutely, positively must have every little swear word and innuendo can go out and get the satellite stuff. However, it still results in a problem in that I think the former group far outstrips the latter in size and disposable income (at least I hope so...the alternative doesn't speak well to our society, IMO).

[oykib]

I don't get it... won't the Sirius and XM folks lose a ton of money by letting this happen? The whole reason why they threw buckets of cash at these morons was to get their idiot audiences to run out and buy satellite radio units and subscriptions... but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?

I was thinking the same thing.

[Arctus]

I don't get it... won't the Sirius and XM folks lose a ton of money by letting this happen? The whole reason why they threw buckets of cash at these morons was to get their idiot audiences to run out and buy satellite radio units and subscriptions... but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?

This was more or less one of the points Stern made regarding his decision to not return to terrestrial radio.

[Toddzilla]

but if the content is available free again, where's the motivation?That's the rub. The content isn't free - at least the unregulated uncensored content isn't. WRT Opie and Anthony, the Free FM portion is simulcast un-edited - and there are several times each show where they get dumped - plus there is 2+ hours after FM goes off the air that they do exclusive for XM.

Its still early to pass judgement on the quality of the show now compared to before e FM deal, but if the improvement that they have made in the last 2 weeks is any indication, they're going to do very well.