Tech will suspend Vick

[timmynausea]

...according to two anonymous sources in the athletic department.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-sports-vicksuspend,0,6225050.story?coll=dp-sports-local

[Deattribution]

The guy has to be a head case cause if he had played his cards right he was practically guaranteed top 10 consideration once he turned pro.

[Young Drachma]

How high would he go if he came out now?

[GrantDawg]

How high would he go if he came out now?

Depends on how much he smokes.

[LionsFan10]

Depends on how much he smokes.

High comedy. :cool:

[M GO BLUE!!!]

How high would he go if he came out now?
#9 overall...

[timmynausea]

#9 overall...

I kind of doubt it. He looked great up until that Miami game.

[st.cronin]

He should come out, and stop embarrasing his school.

[GrantDawg]

I wouldn't take him in the first round. Someone might, though. He is going to be a big headache for whoever gets him. Just when you think he might mature, he takes two steps backward.

[Schmidty]

I kind of doubt it. He looked great up until that Miami game.

He was being sarcastic. He's a Lion fan. It comes naturally.

[st.cronin]

Does anybody seriously expect him to stay in school? I'd be shocked if he did.

[GrantDawg]

Does anybody seriously expect him to stay in school? I'd be shocked if he did.

Not if this is true, no. Nor does the school if they do it.

[Schmidty]

Is this the only dumb thing he's ever done? If so, I'd be willing to give him a shot after the 3rd round.

[GrantDawg]

Is this the only dumb thing he's ever done? If so, I'd be willing to give him a shot after the 3rd round.

Ummmm...no. This isn't even the dumbest.

[VPI97]

He should come out, and stop embarrasing his school.He doesn't embarass me one bit. Nothing he's done in the past is atypical of a college student. As for this suspension, he should just get one game. That's what the Ohio State guy got for choking Jim Sorgi a couple years ago. This was minor in comparison.

[VPI97]

Does anybody seriously expect him to stay in school? I'd be shocked if he did.He already publically stated that he was coming back prior to the Gator Bowl.

[st.cronin]

He doesn't embarass me one bit. Nothing he's done in the past is atypical of a college student. As for this suspension, he should just get one game. That's what the Ohio State guy got for choking Jim Sorgi a couple years ago. This was minor in comparison.

If he was Wisconsin's QB I would be writing him letters BEGGING him to enter the draft. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[JW]

So let's look at VT's schedule? When do they need him back?

2006

Sept. 2 Kent State Blacksburg
Sept. 16 Southern Miss Blacksburg
Sept. 23 Cincinnati Blacksburg

Duke Blacksburg, Va.
Georgia Tech Blacksburg, Va.
at Miami Miami, Fla.
at North Carolina Chapel Hill, N.C.
Virginia Blacksburg, Va.
at Boston College Chestnut Hill, Mass.
Clemson Blacksburg, Va.
at Wake Forest Winston-Salem, N.C.

[Schmidty]

Ummmm...no. This isn't even the dumbest.

Ok. I don't pay attention to most non-MSU college football stuff.

What else has he done?

[GrantDawg]

Ok. I don't pay attention to most non-MSU college football stuff.

What else has he done?

Read the article linked in the first post.

[cthomer5000]

Ok. I don't pay attention to most non-MSU college football stuff.

What else has he done?
busted for weed, and busted for providing alcohol to underage chicks (high school, i believe). Two seperate incidents.

[Schmidty]

Read the article linked in the first post.

Yes master. ;)

Really, I am a truly lazy guy.

[GrantDawg]

Yes master. ;)

Really, I am a truly lazy guy.
That's Master Bater to you.

[Toddzilla]

Marcus Vick = Maurice Clarett

[Swaggs]

busted for weed, and busted for providing alcohol to underage chicks (high school, i believe). Two seperate incidents.

Flipped off the non-student section at the WVU game this season, elbowed one of our assistant coaches in the back of the head, and threw a ball at our defensive player's head after a play in the WVU game. He was forced to apologize later. Here is a nice highlight reel of his exploits in that game: http://media.putfile.com/Marcus-Vick-Highlight-2005

[astrosfan64]

Flipped off the non-student section at the WVU game this season, elbowed one of our assistant coaches in the back of the head, and threw a ball at our defensive player's head after a play in the WVU game. He was forced to apologize later. Here is a nice highlight reel of his exploits in that game: http://media.putfile.com/Marcus-Vick-Highlight-2005

Nothing I saw in those video clips were that bad if you ask me.

[Toddzilla]

Nothing I saw in those video clips were that bad if you ask me.
Thank You! The opinions of WVU fans regarding VT, given their enormous amount of jealousy for Virginia Tech's program and the subsequent hatred over getting left behind in the Mountain East conference, should be dismissed by-and-large.

What that video clip didn't show was (a) the verbal abuse Marcus took from the fans befoe the game and immediately prior to the finger, (b) the pushing and shoving Marcus got on the WVU sidelines as he tried to get back on the field, (c) the late hit and cheap shot Marcus took on the play immediately prior to the ball "flip", and (d) the fact WVU got their asses handed to them YET AGAIN by Virginia Tech.

[Deattribution]

How high would he go if he came out now?

Being called 'the next Michael Vick' isn't such a compliment anymore, and you could call him a x10 more immature, less talented Michael Vick... So right now he'd be lucky to be early 3rd round just for a shot in the dark by a team.

He could end up being better then Vick, and really something, infact most thought he was going to be that... Too many off field, and on field issues now though.

[Swaggs]

Vick was playing a near perfect game and the Hokies were beating the crap out of the Mountaineers--he was doing fine responding on the field. Of the three things in the video, I think the middle finger is the worst and most embarassing. One of our players last season, Chris Henry (now with the Bengals), did the same thing at Rutgers last season. It was an embarassment to the University and the team. He was suspended for a half of the following game and put on a short leash the rest of the season. Vick's leash should have already been pretty short, considering he just came off a season's suspension anyway. I do have a grudge against him for flipping off my school's fanbase and am not unhappy to see him in trouble again. He is a jerkoff that should not be playing college football for a coach like Frank Beamer, whose program does not need to take chances on characters like that.

As for the VT jealousy, what Beamer has done with the program is impressive and commendable. He is too classy to have a player like Marcus Vick at the program. They are a very good program and during the Michael Vick years, they were even better. But long term and recently, I am not ashamed of how WVU has stacked up to VT. WVU finished the series with VT with a winning record (28-21, I believe), split the last four games vs VT, played for as many titles during their time in the BE together, has been ranked higher than VT in three of the last four seasons in the final AP and USA Today polls, and now has a BCS win to their name. The only jealousy I have for the VT program is that I hope we eventually become ESPN sweetharts and get as much love from the media.

As it is, WVU and VT are done playing each other so the rivalry is dead. RIP.

[Easy Mac]

What's so impressive about Vick #2? I've seen a few games of his this season (about 5). He's not overly quick. He doesn't have a strong arm. He hasn't shown great intelligence in the passing game. He doesn't have a good feel for pressure. He's basically like a DJ Shockley lite, and I have a fairly low opinion of Shockley's skills. Is the only reason people think he's a QB on the steps of greatness because of his last name?

[timmynausea]

BCS Bowl appearances since 2000 -
WVU - 1
VT - 1

Jealous? We just don't like you.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So right now he'd be lucky to be early 3rd round just for a shot in the dark by a team.

I dunno, I'm thinking the Raiders or the Cowboys are a perfect fit.

edit to add: Or maybe the Vikings if he likes watersports. ;)

[RendeR]

I've never in my life seen so much turmoil and attention paid to an utterly terrible college player.

he won't make an NFL squad, whenever he comes out. Classless? yes, talentless? damn near, worth a draft pick? highly unlikely.

[CraigSca]

This is from CBSsportsline.com:

Steve Usecheck, a Big 12 Conference official who led the crew for Monday's game, called Tech's first-half taunting and late hits the worst he's seen in his 22 seasons. He said that no official saw Vick stomp the back of Elvis Dumervil's leg while Dumervil was down on the turf late in the second quarter.

"We missed that, and I'm sorry we did," Usecheck told the Newport News Daily Press from his Colorado home. "The TV, everybody saw it but us. I wish we had the opportunity to talk to (Vick) because that was complete (expletive). You bet I would have thrown his ass out."

[stevew]

I dunno, I'm thinking the Raiders or the Cowboys are a perfect fit.

edit to add: Or maybe the Vikings if he likes watersports. ;)

Ravens, hello? Those guys know how to do jail time.

[DanGarion]

#9 overall...
*buzzer* No sorry, 3 round if lucky.

[WVUFAN]

BCS Bowl appearances since 2000 -
WVU - 1
VT - 1

Jealous? We just don't like you.
Allow me to further clarify:

BCS Bowl VICTORIES since 2000 --

WVU - 1
VT - 0

[kingnebwsu]

As for this suspension, he should just get one game. That's what the Ohio State guy got for choking Jim Sorgi a couple years ago. This was minor in comparison.

I'm a hardcore OSU fan, and I thought that the LB who choked Sorgi (Reynolds maybe?) should have been suspended for the season. Thankfully it was his senior year so I didn't have to see him anymore. I'm the kind of guy who holds things against people for a long time...and I never forget.

OJ Simpson? Murderer.

Kobe Bryant? Rapist.

T.O.? Possibly the most selfish athlete ever.

Latrell Spreewell? Feed my family!

Marcus Vick? (Hopefully suspended) thug

Michael Vick? Ron Mexico.

Two Wright State basketball players? Thugs. (see my sig)

Yeah yeah, the Kobe thing was never proven and OJ was "not guilty" but the first thing I'll think of when I see them is not their Hall of Fame-caliber play...it's their off-field antics.

I've even stopped being hardcore about my alma mater's hoops team because of some thug shoplifters. I've missed like 4 straight home games...which is more than I've missed in the last 7 seasons COMBINED. (Shrug)

[VPI97]

WVU finished the series with VT with a winning record (28-21, I believe), split the last four games vs VT, played for as many titles during their time in the BE together, has been ranked higher than VT in three of the last four seasons in the final AP and USA Today polls, and now has a BCS win to their name.Nice little cutoff point you used there....my turn.

Since 1994, VT has led the series 9-3, went to four BCS/Bowl Alliance games to WVU's one and you guys have only finished the year ranked higher than us once during that span (I don't know where you got your info from). The only place you come close is in the number of conference championships (four for VT, three for WVU), but do the last two actually mean anything when you're playing in such a poor conference? Heck, VT should claim the last two Big East Championship on general principle.

Jealous? We just don't like you.You should...you should love us because the only reason WVU has a chance at being relevant in the college football world again is because we decided to get out of that shitty conference.


I'll miss the series since I grew up in West Virginia and went to nearly every home game for 10 year span. I remember Darryl Talley's great game in the loss to Pitt in '82 and was in the stands for the monsoon game against Florida State that same year. I remember watching Hostetler out-dueling Flutie year after year and my first taste of alcohol was sipping champagne after the '84 win over Penn State that snapped a 30 year losing streak. I still have an old Gary Mullen jersey (#1) somewhere deep in my closet. I was there when the Major turned the wrong way but still managed a touchdown against PSU in '88. I know more WVU football history than 90% of the buffoons who make up their fanbase now...that's why I've always been one to root for the Mountaineers...old loyaltys are hard to lose. Heck, I even spent Monday at a bar in downtown Atlanta watching the day's games with a building full of blue and gold fans in town for the Sugar Bowl (two sets of aunts and uncles, as well as cousins included in that mix). But what I won't miss is that vast majority of the current WVU fanbase who are utterly classless. When opposing fans refuse to go to Mountaineer Field, that's when you know things are out of control up there. I'll miss playing WVU, but I won't miss having to associate with people like that.

[Swaggs]

VPI97, you are right about the final rankings. I used ESPN.com for the cutoff date of 2002 (b/c that is how far back it goes), but upon further review, it doesn't appear that they updated their final polls following the bowl games in 2002-03. Bad info from me. Sorry.

Not to split hairs, but WVU has won four conference titles and played in the Sugar Bowl, for a chance at the national title, the year before your cutoff date. VT's last three seasons in the old Big East, they finished in fourth place each time, and were 1 game over .500 with an 11-10 record. VT had a fantastic run during the Vick years and were very good often, but they were below Miami and in the class of WVU, Pitt, and BC afterwards.

As I have said, I respect the VT program (and like all of the VT posters from this site). Sorry you have had some bad experiences with some of our fans and I hope you don't consider me among the utterly classless. I rooted for VT against FSU in the Sugar Bowl, got my heard broken by Vick more than once, and enjoyed watching the program rise up over the years. I really didn't mind them up until a few seasons ago when my brother had a very bad experience at a VT game where he and his young daughter were cursed at by some students for no reason other than their clothing. The ACC thing and the Marcus Vick stuff have not helped.

As I said I think WVU stacks up well with VT, both long term and recently (last 5 years). I wish, for recruiting purposes, we received the coverage and media love that VT gets, but hopefully we will earn some of our own.

[Ragone]

I have no problems with Vtech, even though they played a fairly dirty game, i haven't seen enough of their games to gather a overall opinion

but after what marcus vick did to dumervil.. and then going on to later say he apologized (he didn't).. I hope his nfl career is shortlived

[Toddzilla]

BCS Bowl appearances since 2000 -
WVU - 1
VT - 1
Jealous? We just don't like you.
Mountaineer math?

VT played for the National Championship in 2000, Sugar Bowl
VT played Auburn in the 2005 Sugar Bowl as well

I think that adds up to two. Which is greater than one.

Of course you could go back to 1995 whichwould give VT 4 BCS bowl appearances, or you could say WVU has been in more BCS bowls that VT has since 2004. Nice try.

Mark May was right.

[timmynausea]

Mountaineer math?

VT played for the National Championship in 2000, Sugar Bowl
VT played Auburn in the 2005 Sugar Bowl as well

I think that adds up to two. Which is greater than one.

Of course you could go back to 1995 whichwould give VT 4 BCS bowl appearances, or you could say WVU has been in more BCS bowls that VT has since 2004. Nice try.

Mark May was right.

Mark May was right that we would beat Georgia.
Of course your 2000 appearance happened as a part of 1999 season so I didn't count. I was just pointing out the recent history. For example: Right now we are ranked higher than you. I guess we are jealous of your lower ranking, though.

Regardless, I came here to post this: http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/football/2006/January/6/2049779.php
Vick was charged with driving on a suspended license yesterday. It happened on 12/17 so it is odd that he wasn't charged until this week. This would break his zero tolerance agreement with the school.

[GrantDawg]

Mark May was right that we would beat Georgia.
Of course your 2000 appearance happened as a part of 1999 season so I didn't count. I was just pointing out the recent history. For example: Right now we are ranked higher than you. I guess we are jealous of your lower ranking, though.

Regardless, I came here to post this: http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/football/2006/January/6/2049779.php
Vick was charged with driving on a suspended license yesterday. It happened on 12/17 so it is odd that he wasn't charged until this week. This would break his zero tolerance agreement with the school.

That may be were the suspension rumor is coming from.

[ISiddiqui]

Jesus... Marcus Vick is just doing all that he can to screw himself over. Even Randy Moss wasn't this bad!

[Koryo]

Mark May was right that we would beat Georgia.
Of course your 2000 appearance happened as a part of 1999 season so I didn't count. I was just pointing out the recent history. For example: Right now we are ranked higher than you. I guess we are jealous of your lower ranking, though.

Regardless, I came here to post this: http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/football/2006/January/6/2049779.php
Vick was charged with driving on a suspended license yesterday. It happened on 12/17 so it is odd that he wasn't charged until this week. This would break his zero tolerance agreement with the school.

They didn't play their bowl game till after Christmas and the police live in Blacksburg...so doesn't seem all that odd to me.

[KWhit]

He doesn't embarass me one bit. Nothing he's done in the past is atypical of a college student. As for this suspension, he should just get one game. That's what the Ohio State guy got for choking Jim Sorgi a couple years ago. This was minor in comparison.
I don't know about that. If it were just one thing it would be different, but he has established a pattern of behavior that is questionable at best.