View Full Version : Alright boyz, it's the TCB First Impressions thread.
DaddyTorgo
01-13-2006, 08:04 PM
figured it deserved a thread seperate from the demo thread.
there's a transfer window right after the end of the season. i suppose i could have tinkered with it, but i didn't.
Pro Draft e-mail is a nice touch, although I suggested to Gary that maybe he add in the names of the NBA teams the players are drafted to (could be totally at random) for "immersion factor."
but it's nice to imagine that they've gone on to successful careers, might be a bit nicer if there was a random NBA team attached, just so you could imagine one of your guys being the "new shaq" in LA or something
Easy Mac
01-13-2006, 08:28 PM
Is someone invisibanned again?
BigDPW
01-13-2006, 08:33 PM
Downloading Now but it has slowed to 16 kb/sec... I hope a mirror comes up soon and I can switch to a much faster download...
DaddyTorgo
01-13-2006, 08:35 PM
nope. i think i beat jbmagic to making the thread and he thought his was first so he was going to link to it but then decided to delete it or something
Easy Mac
01-13-2006, 08:38 PM
dammit Torgo, you've said too much.
FBPro
01-13-2006, 08:41 PM
Downloading Now but it has slowed to 16 kb/sec... I hope a mirror comes up soon and I can switch to a much faster download...
Concur!!
ThunderingHERD
01-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Excellent. Have to work 'til midnight, hopefully my download will be complete when I get back home. :)
DaddyTorgo
01-13-2006, 09:25 PM
opening night: Preseason #5 Boston College against unranked Indiana.
BC leads at the half 43-34 with true freshman (and #1 overall HS recruit) John Hobbs exploding for 24 first half points for the Eagles on 8-13 FG, 4-4 3's, and 4-6 FG's.
I sense a monster in the making!
edit: Hobbs finishes with 41/82 Eagle points in the game (apparently the second half was simming as i typed this)
Hobbs finished 13-27 from the floor, 9-12 from the stripe and 6-6 from beyond the arc. (along with 13 TOT...if anyone cares to enlighten me as to what that could possibly mean...).
Sick. Sick. His fellow frosh Sheffer (the #8 overall recruit) finished with just 9 pts and 6 boards
WSUCougar
01-13-2006, 10:15 PM
(along with 13 TOT...if anyone cares to enlighten me as to what that could possibly mean...)
I believe that's total rebounds, as opposed to just offensive rebounds.
Easy Mac
01-13-2006, 10:20 PM
Mirror
http://www.sportssimshaven.com/downloads/TCBInstall.exe
DaddyTorgo
01-13-2006, 10:20 PM
I believe that's total rebounds, as opposed to just offensive rebounds.yeah i forgot to edit and delete that. figured it out by looking at the player stats screen and matching those totals in the columns together.
Eaglesfan27
01-13-2006, 10:23 PM
This is why the BBCF patch is downloading so slowly! :(
Mirror
http://www.sportssimshaven.com/downloads/TCBInstall.exethank god
ThunderingHERD
01-14-2006, 12:30 AM
grrr... I can get any school I want except UNC.
ThunderingHERD
01-14-2006, 12:32 AM
Ok, I had to max out my ratings before it would give me UNC.
CraigSca
01-14-2006, 06:46 AM
Sounds like a bug to me, because this certainly doesn't explain Matt Doherty.
CraigSca
01-14-2006, 06:48 AM
dola
so, any impressions yet? Or, has no one come up for air? :)
WSUCougar
01-14-2006, 09:42 AM
^^^^^ son of a Duke grad
Sounds like a bug to me, because this certainly doesn't explain Matt Doherty.
:D :D :D
Young Drachma
01-14-2006, 03:03 PM
I'm downloading the demo now. BBCF didn't work for me and I made the gaffe of buying it without ever having it work on my PC. I'd love to have a college basketball game and so, hopefully this will work.
Gary Gorski
01-14-2006, 03:13 PM
LMK how it goes DC - if it doesnt work I will do whatever I can to get the demo up and running for you
rexallllsc
01-14-2006, 04:22 PM
My team fouls like crazy! 7 fouls in the first 5 minutes last time, 4 fouls in the first 5 minutes this game.
I guess we need to practice D a bit more.
Glengoyne
01-14-2006, 04:33 PM
I'm still monkeying around with the Demo. In the demo thread I had some reservations about recruiting, but even that process is starting to grow on me. I think I'll be a buyer soon. The 2D graphics make playing the individual games worthwhile. I guess that means I'm Pro Square.
Now for my nit-picky points. I find that I can't follow the play-by-play, AT ALL, when watching the graphics. I think this is because it is located beside the 2-D graphics. If the PbP were located below the court image, I think it might be better. I think there is a technical/psychological reason for this, I just can't remember the name of it. Essentially it is easier/less disruptive for humans to process simultaneous information presented with a vertical "dislocation" than a horizontal one. I might be all wet with that, but in any case, I know I'm not the only one to note having this issue, so I felt it worth mentioning.
Along the lines of that....since I can't follow the PbP..It would be nice if the graphics somehow indicated that a shot was blocked, or a pass was stolen. It would be great to have some sort of visual que that shot was taken and blocked..or if the ball was just stolen. Essentially loose balls aren't conveyed very well in the graphics.
A bit less nit-picky is that when I tell my team to foul intentionally at the end of the game, my point guard gets all of the fouls. ALL of them. This complicates the use of that strategy. As an after thought....Maybe my problem was that I was running a half court trap. Perhaps gowing full court man to man would be a way to avoid this.
When all is said and done. Great Job Gary. This is a great game, and I think it might push FBCB a bit down on my play list. I still have a few reservations about recruiting, just the time it takes, but for now I'm chalking that up to learning curve. I didn't care for FBCB's recruiting at first either, but it grew on me. Come to think of it, I didn't care for TDCB's recruiting either. I think I sense a trend. It is the in-game interaction that I enjoy the most. There is some real immersion going on during games.
rexallllsc
01-14-2006, 04:40 PM
Now for my nit-picky points. I find that I can't follow the play-by-play, AT ALL, when watching the graphics. I think this is because it is located beside the 2-D graphics. If the PbP were located below the court image, I think it might be better. I think there is a technical/psychological reason for this, I just can't remember the name of it. Essentially it is easier/less disruptive for humans to process simultaneous information presented with a vertical "dislocation" than a horizontal one. I might be all wet with that, but in any case, I know I'm not the only one to note having this issue, so I felt it worth mentioning.
I agree with this. I wouldnt mind so much the players names were under their #s when they had the ball, and a bit more was spelled out (i.e. if there's a foul, put a little arrow on the guy, with his name, and how many fouls he has).
I would also like to control the PLAY and PAUSE buttons with my keypad... :)
Having fun so far!
Glengoyne
01-14-2006, 05:07 PM
I would also like to control the PLAY and PAUSE buttons with my keypad... :)
Having fun so far!I agree on both points. OK, back to my game for the second half. Thank God my son has started to take long Naps. I can't play this game when I'm supposed to be watching him...I tried earlier...and then all of the sudden noticed that like ten minutes(hopefully less) had passed, and I had no clue where he was. While a very bad thing for me...I think it bodes well for the folks at Grey Dog that people are able to get sucked into this thing.
DaddyTorgo
01-14-2006, 05:11 PM
*cough* National Champion Boston College Eagles defeat Duke (DUKE SUCKS!) 73-63 in the championship game, led by sophomore SF Adrian Sheffer. SG Ben Hobbs left BC after just one season for the NBA, becoming the league's #1 overall draft pick, but Sheffer was able to dominate along with All-American and All-ACC 1st Team PF Travis Bradford (True Freshman) and 7-2 JR Center Ben Abney to lead the Eagles to a National Title!
sovereignstar
01-14-2006, 05:12 PM
*cough* National Champion Boston College Eagles defeat Duke (DUKE SUCKS!) 73-63 in the championship game, led by sophomore SF Adrian Sheffer. SG Ben Hobbs left BC after just one season for the NBA, becoming the league's #1 overall draft pick, but Sheffer was able to dominate along with All-American and All-ACC 1st Team PF Travis Bradford (True Freshman) and 7-2 JR Center Ben Abney to lead the Eagles to a National Title!
What year are you in and what kind of coaching points did you start off with?
DaddyTorgo
01-14-2006, 05:18 PM
What year are you in and what kind of coaching points did you start off with?i'm in 2007/2008 and i started off with 65's across the board. it definately helped that as I said in the demo thread, i was able to land #1 and #8 consensus recruits last year. The #1 (Hobbs) was the National Player of the Year as a frosh and then left for the NBA draft, but the #8 (Sheffer) has blossomed quite nicely. I don't recall how high Travis Bradford was ranked (wish there was a way to tell), but he was no schlub. Abney was an existing player when I took over the team.
I've had some really good recruiting classes my first couple of years, but surprisingly this year it was rather weak by my standards, so we'll see how that pans out in the future.
JeeberD
01-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Is someone invisibanned again?
Appears that way...
http://www.naflsim.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1905
henry296
01-14-2006, 08:30 PM
I am playing the demo and the star criteria doesn't seem to be working on the Recruiting page. No matter what I pick, it shows all of the players.
Cuckoo
01-14-2006, 08:51 PM
Appears that way...
http://www.naflsim.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1905
Now see, you went and worried me JeeberD. I suddenly started seeing a bunch of guests on the forum and disabled it for a short time. I thought it was going to be another of those phpbb attacks that went around about a year or so ago.
Then I stop by FOFC and see this post... :D
Galaril
01-14-2006, 11:31 PM
I should mention that there are very few bugs being reproted at GDS's board but one that concerns me. A number of people are reporting that too mant scholarships are being awarded to teams and that when you ask the Board for something like more budgetary funds and they agree it appears that is not actual occuring. These are nothing huge so I am sure gary will get them worked out for 1.1.
Galaril
01-14-2006, 11:34 PM
One other thin. Has anyone had ANY blocked shots in played out not simmed games. That is one other small thing that appears to be off.
rexallllsc
01-15-2006, 02:11 AM
One other thin. Has anyone ANY blocked shots if played out not simmed games. That is one other small thing that appears to be off.
Nope. And I know this is from a small sample size, but not many shots + foul where the shot goes in.
SackAttack
01-15-2006, 04:06 AM
Anybody found an easy way to edit team/conference names and logos once and for all so you don't have to do it every time?
Anybody found an easy way to edit team/conference names and logos once and for all so you don't have to do it every time?
Download and install the all-in-one autoinstall pack i released and you won't need to edit them. They will become your defaults for every new game started.
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=45787
dontreadthis
01-15-2006, 08:31 AM
if that's the same file I downloaded for the team name changes and whatever, make sure to change the filename for the Atlantic 10 logo to "a10.gif". It was misnamed and will cause an error when you play.
One other thin. Has anyone ANY blocked shots if played out not simmed games. That is one other small thing that appears to be off.
Sure, I have a center that gets quite a few blocks and I play out all my games.
Also, I see several made baskets plus fouls. It does seem infrequent, though.
if that's the same file I downloaded for the team name changes and whatever, make sure to change the filename for the Atlantic 10 logo to "a10.gif". It was misnamed and will cause an error when you play.
Good catch, fixed. Never saw any error but the logo doesn't appear in the standings for example. It was wrongly named a101.gif, i have renamed it to a10.gif and upload the installer again.
You guys don't need to download the installer again, it's enought to go to the folder C:\Program Files\GDS\Total College Basketball\graphics and rename the file a101.gif to a10.gif
If you download it from now, the installer has this bug already corrected.
ThunderingHERD
01-15-2006, 10:31 PM
Just started playing. Two things I've noticed: The GPAs are way too high, and is it really necessary to calculate the bubble teams and all that every time you want to see the standings?
ThunderingHERD
01-16-2006, 01:21 AM
In my 2nd year with Cornell I landed two top 40 recruits. Team prestige is 13 and I have a 59 in recruiting.
Fouts
01-16-2006, 05:06 AM
I'm really enjoying this game, so far. I play out all my games as San Diego State (18 prestige) and we're 8-6 so far with big wins over OK State and #19 Provo (BYU). Some minor things I've noticed;
1) No block shots for either team after 14 games played. Looking at the stats, all the sim teams are blocking shots just fine.
2) Possession arrow - haven't seen any jump balls.
3) Saw 1 shot clock violation (it said 24 second clock violation despite the 35 second clock).
4) Last second shots at the half/end of game happen infrequently.
5) Text could use more rare plays.
Suggestions;
1) Highlight injured players in the sub screen (would be helpful).
2) Need keyboard commands.
CraigSca
01-16-2006, 05:28 AM
I'm really enjoying this game, so far. I play out all my games as San Diego State (18 prestige) and we're 8-6 so far with big wins over OK State and #19 Provo (BYU). Some minor things I've noticed;
1) No block shots for either team after 14 games played. Looking at the stats, all the sim teams are blocking shots just fine.
.
I hope this is just a bug and not an example of two separate engines being used (one for simming and one for playing).
Gary Gorski
01-16-2006, 07:40 AM
Nope, its a bug - the code differs for the play v sim because when its simming it is told to ignore all the things related to displaying the 2D and there was a mistake in a line that makes it ignore shots that should be blocked when the 2D is running - which is why blocks accumulate in simmed games but not in played out ones. There will be a patch released this week which will fix it.
Gary Gorski
01-16-2006, 07:46 AM
In my 2nd year with Cornell I landed two top 40 recruits. Team prestige is 13 and I have a 59 in recruiting.
What are their GPAs and are you past the point of when the SATs are taken in the game?
henry296
01-16-2006, 07:49 AM
Thunderingherd,
I assume they had no interest at the beginning of the year? I started the demo with Penn and they highest ranked player at the beginning of recruiting was 600.
Todd
Recoil
01-16-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm in love with this game. Thanks, Gary.
Fouts
01-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Nope, its a bug - the code differs for the play v sim because when its simming it is told to ignore all the things related to displaying the 2D and there was a mistake in a line that makes it ignore shots that should be blocked when the 2D is running - which is why blocks accumulate in simmed games but not in played out ones. There will be a patch released this week which will fix it.
Thanks for the quick response and fix. I hope you'll consider making other enhancements for the people who play every game out. I haven't read this anywhere, but can you export the graduating class for use in TPB?
BuffaloHuskey
01-16-2006, 03:48 PM
I really enjoyed playing the game over the weekend. I started off with UConn (Which is easy but they are my favorite team) and went to the final four the first two years, losing in the semifinals and finals. I really like how the recruiting function works, which is not as tedious once you get the system down. I think I will play a few more seasons with UConn and then move to either Buffalo or St. Bonaventure, and eventually down to Cornell.
The biggest challenge with recruiting is being able to know how much money you can allocate to reports, while maintaining enough funds to actually recruit. I have been working on putting together a guide for resource allocation and will post it once I have gone through enough scenarios.
ScottVib
01-16-2006, 03:50 PM
Not at present, but is planned for a future update.
Zippo
01-16-2006, 03:51 PM
I haven't read this anywhere, but can you export the graduating class for use in TPB?
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10652
Hope this helps. :)
MizzouRah
01-16-2006, 04:44 PM
I guess I'll have to restart my TPB St. Louis Clippers career in order to see my Tigers playing on my team. I LOVE funcitionality like this.
Even though TCY -> FOF was not as good as I thought it could be, it was still fun seeing where my players went and how their pro career was.
Eaglesfan27
01-16-2006, 04:49 PM
I finally tried the demo today and was impressed enough to buy it. I look forward to playing this a great deal once a patch or two addresses the biggest issues.
Coder
01-16-2006, 04:59 PM
I guess I'll have to restart my TPB St. Louis Clippers career in order to see my Tigers playing on my team. I LOVE funcitionality like this.
Even though TCY -> FOF was not as good as I thought it could be, it was still fun seeing where my players went and how their pro career was.
This feature has gotten my really excited about it as well, so I'm waiting to purchase until it has been implimented :).
Fouts
01-16-2006, 06:16 PM
San Diego, CA - Fans stormed the court as San Diego State (11-10, 5-5 conf) took down #15 Utah (18-5, 8-2 conf) by a score of 82-56. SD State took a 3 point lead into the second half, but Utah had a difficult time hitting any shots in the second half. It didn't help that two of Utah's starters were in foul trouble most of the game. Sophmore SG Matt Taylor was named player of the game scoring 17 pts, with 4 assist and 3 rebounds. Utah won the first meeting 86-79 in Salt Lake City.
San Diego State hopes to build momentum going into the final six conference games and conference tourney.
lynchjm24
01-16-2006, 06:48 PM
Just to make a counterpoint, I've had a lot of baskets and one.
Also, until today I didn't have any runtime errors, but now I had 2. Run Time 8 and Run Time 39. Seemed to both happen when I wanted to jump back to IE and I used alt-tab.
Gary Gorski
01-16-2006, 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=Fouts]I hope you'll consider making other enhancements for the people who play every game out. [\QUOTE]
What other enhancements would you like to see? I'm always willing to hear suggestions.
Fouts
01-16-2006, 07:49 PM
What other enhancements would you like to see? I'm always willing to hear suggestions.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread. I would like to see;
1) More rare plays during the game (injuries mentioned, lane violations, more shot clock violations, jump balls, fights?, etc).
2) More text information at tip-off/halftime (records, players stats, etc.).
3) Highlight injured players in the sub screen.
4) Keyboard commands to start play, access other screens.
Thats all I have written down for now. Fantastic game you have here, thanks.
DaddyTorgo
01-16-2006, 08:46 PM
so if you accidently delete your savegame didn't i read right that there's a backup in the folder that still exists? which file do i have to rename to match the folder?
help
ThunderingHERD
01-16-2006, 11:22 PM
What are their GPAs and are you past the point of when the SATs are taken in the game?
One was 4.0 and one 3.9. Yes, past the point of SATs at this point. Current GDSN overall ranking of 40 and 33.I recruited by going down regional listing and adding kids with a GPA over 3.5, hoping that they or their parents would be interested in Cornell's academics.
edit: As a coach, I also have a "high" emphasis on academics.
John's parents said that playing time is a factor but not a major one to them. (02/04/07)
John said we're in his top ten but didn't say where. (01/21/07)
John didn't seem to care much when asked about academics. (01/14/07)
John's basketball coach said he rarely ever missed even a day of practice. (01/07/07)
John's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (12/31/06)
John's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (12/24/06)
John said that prestige is a very small factor in his decision. (12/17/06)
John's parents said that they felt we were not the right school for their son. (12/10/06)
John's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (10/09/06)
John's parents said that discipline is a factor but not a major one to them. (09/25/06)
John's basketball coach said he's a hard working kid. (09/18/06)
John said that academics is a very small factor in his decision. (09/11/06)
John's parents said that they felt we were not the right school for their son. (09/04/06)
John seems to be primarily a fairly balanced player. (08/14/06)
John's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (08/07/06)
John's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (07/31/06)
John has some knowledge of the 2-2-1 zone press. (07/30/06)
John has some knowledge of the 2-2-1 zone press. (07/30/06)
John was definitely a top ten player at the Big Apple Showcase (07/28/06)
John's parents said that playing close to home is a big factor in where their son will go to school. (07/17/06)
John has some knowledge of the 1-3-1 zone defense. (07/16/06)
John's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (07/09/06)
John has some knowledge of the 1-3-1 zone defense. (07/09/06)
John seemed pretty uninterested in playing time. (06/26/06)
Nick's basketball coach said he doesn't have many problems with injuries. (02/11/07)
Nick said that playing close to home is his top concern about any school. (01/28/07)
Nick's basketball coach said he doesn't have many problems with injuries. (01/21/07)
Nick hinted that we've at least got a shot at him. (01/07/07)
Nick's basketball coach said he's had some attitude and discipline problems with him. (12/24/06)
Nick's parents said that academics is their top concern about any school. (12/10/06)
Nick said that playing close to home is his top concern about any school. (12/03/06)
Nick's basketball coach said he's had some attitude and discipline problems with him. (11/26/06)
Nick said that playing time is a factor but not a major one to him. (11/19/06)
Nick's basketball coach said he's a hard working kid. (11/06/06)
Nick's basketball coach said he's a hard working kid. (10/30/06)
Nick told us that we're in the running for him. (10/23/06)
Nick hinted that we've at least got a shot at him. (10/09/06)
Nick said that playing close to home is a big factor in where he will go to school. (10/02/06)
Nick's basketball coach said he doesn't have many problems with injuries. (09/25/06)
Nick said that academics is not a major concern of his. (08/14/06)
Nick seems to be primarily a jump shooter. (08/14/06)
Nick's basketball coach said he's had some attitude and discipline problems with him. (08/07/06)
Nick said that discipline is not a major concern of his. (07/30/06)
Nick just doesn't look good or comfortable putting the ball on the floor. (07/30/06)
Nick seems to avoid the post on offense as much as possible. (07/30/06)
Nick was easily in the top five at the Big Apple Showcase (07/28/06)
Nick made it clear we are not in his top ten right now. (07/16/06)
Nick has some knowledge of the flex offense. (07/16/06)
Nick has some knowledge of the 2-3 zone defense. (07/09/06)
Nick said that playing close to home is his top concern about any school. (06/26/06)
ThunderingHERD
01-16-2006, 11:24 PM
Thunderingherd,
I assume they had no interest at the beginning of the year? I started the demo with Penn and they highest ranked player at the beginning of recruiting was 600.
Todd
The highest interested recruit I've had in either year has been ~ 700. I send out a ton of feeler calls in the first couple of weeks and go hard after any highly ranked guys that show interest after I've called them.
ThunderingHERD
01-16-2006, 11:58 PM
Just looking through the recruits, SAT scores seem to be too high. Couldn't find a source for basketball, but apparently the average D1 football player SAT score is below 900. Quickly looking through the top 50, only 13 of the top 50 recruits in my game have a score below 1000. The #44 and 3 recruits scored 1570.
ThunderingHERD
01-17-2006, 12:43 AM
Another thing--is there some way to see a players ranking as a recruit? If not, I definately think that should be in the game.
ausonny
01-17-2006, 01:10 AM
One issue I've come across is that after the first week of the season Duke fell from number one in both polls to number 4 in the media poll and number 7 in the coaches poll, without losing. 4 of the teams that jumped over them in the coaches poll had a loss. Seems like something's a little off there. ;)
ausonny
01-17-2006, 01:18 AM
Dola -
Duke fell even further the second week, still without losing. Three of the teams ahead of them have 2 losses.
ThunderingHERD
01-17-2006, 04:11 AM
3rd year with Cornell: with three freshman starters and no seniors I finish 15-0 at home and 3-9 on the road. Only one win on the road in the Ivy league despite having much, much more talent. Just from this season it seems like too large a penalty is being applied to young players on the road.
Fouts
01-17-2006, 05:21 AM
I had 5 scholarships last year, but since I was only able to recruit 1 guy, I had 4 walkons. The next season I was told I only have 1 scholarship. What happened to the 4 leftover scholarships from last year? Did I lose them because I suck at recruiting?
Gary Gorski
01-17-2006, 08:19 AM
Just looking through the recruits, SAT scores seem to be too high. Couldn't find a source for basketball, but apparently the average D1 football player SAT score is below 900. Quickly looking through the top 50, only 13 of the top 50 recruits in my game have a score below 1000. The #44 and 3 recruits scored 1570.
Ah ok, I see why you were able to get them as Cornell - I'll lower the SAT scores and that should take care of that. I think one person told me they had alot of success with Harvard as well.
Gary Gorski
01-17-2006, 08:21 AM
One issue I've come across is that after the first week of the season Duke fell from number one in both polls to number 4 in the media poll and number 7 in the coaches poll, without losing. 4 of the teams that jumped over them in the coaches poll had a loss. Seems like something's a little off there. ;)
Yeah there have been reports that RPI is weighing too heavily in the early season polls - it always works itself out of course but I'll tweak it so that early polls are determined more by prestige than RPI
Gary Gorski
01-17-2006, 08:22 AM
I had 5 scholarships last year, but since I was only able to recruit 1 guy, I had 4 walkons. The next season I was told I only have 1 scholarship. What happened to the 4 leftover scholarships from last year? Did I lose them because I suck at recruiting?
They should still be available - did you have offers out at the end of the season to players that never ended up signing with you or did you just have four scholarships sitting around that you didnt offer?
BuffaloHuskey
01-17-2006, 09:30 AM
Is the NCAA still using a sliding scale for GPA and SAT scores? I think someone mentioned that a player in this game would not be eligible with less than a 920. I know that when I first started college about 8 years ago, that you could be eligible with scores lower than that (My roomie had much worse scores than that and he was eligible to play baseball at a Div.1 school). His high school grades were decent though, so maybe that is why he was eligible
Galaril
01-17-2006, 10:01 AM
Hopefully, there is a patch in the near future to tweak the stat issues like blocks, and such as well as the too many scholarships. And of course the other few things mentioned above. The game is great but I am holding off starting a serious universe until these things are taken care of. That being said I purchased the game the morning after it was released. Gary, you made a fan boy of me with TPB. A awesome game and I haven't been disappointed with this either. Thanks.
Gary Gorski
01-17-2006, 11:51 AM
Is the NCAA still using a sliding scale for GPA and SAT scores?
The NCAA uses a sliding scale - TCB does not. The min SAT score to pass in the game is 800 but each school also has its own minimum score for admission into their school so you can't be Yale or something and pickup guys who barely passed the SAT.
Fouts
01-17-2006, 03:36 PM
They should still be available - did you have offers out at the end of the season to players that never ended up signing with you or did you just have four scholarships sitting around that you didnt offer?
I had 5 offers out, only 1 signed at the end of season. Got 4 walkons in their place. This year I only have 1 scholarship available to offer.
ThunderingHERD
01-17-2006, 11:37 PM
I had 5 offers out, only 1 signed at the end of season. Got 4 walkons in their place. This year I only have 1 scholarship available to offer.
Have you tried cutting the walkons?
Fouts
01-18-2006, 03:18 AM
Tested it by cutting the walk-ons and simming a week. Received no additional scholarships. Cut the 1 recruit I did give a scholarship, and received an extra scholarship.
I have 9 guys on scholarships now. I loaded the original file and my team had 13 guys on scholarship. I think I have permanently lost 4 scholarships.
hoosiergoody
01-18-2006, 07:31 AM
Hopefully, there is a patch in the near future to tweak the stat issues like blocks, and such as well as the too many scholarships.
Gary mentioned that he plans to have a patch out this week- the main things I remember being worked on were the blocks and the RTE when you cut a player. Knowing GDS, Gary will have other things tweaked as well in the patch. He's been quite active on this board as well as the GDS forums, so he hears all our suggestions/issues/and of course, gratitude...
Fouts
01-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Bump. Gary, have I lost these 4 scholarships permanently? My team is tanking in season 2, since we replaced 4 seniors with 4 walkons.
Gary Gorski
01-19-2006, 06:30 PM
For the current season, yes - as long as you don't advance to the new season without the patch. With the patch it should reset them correctly next year.
Fouts
01-20-2006, 02:23 AM
For the current season, yes - as long as you don't advance to the new season without the patch. With the patch it should reset them correctly next year.
Ok, thanks for the reply. I'll try and suffer through this season, but wait for the patch before continuing.
Once I get the scholarships back, I suspect I'll have to cut some guys before I can add these new recruits to the roster, or will the roster be expanded and require you to cut down?
I'm not even sure I'll have a job at SD State after this year though. We are 2-12 at this point, and riding a 7 game losing streak.
Gary Gorski
01-20-2006, 07:59 AM
The rosters do not expand so you will have to cut some of your walkons or let the AI do it for you
Question on the demo:
I downloaded the original demo, but it kept crashing on my computer. I decided to wait and see if it ran ok on my computer after it came out, so I just downloaded the "retail" demo and installed it after uninstalling the old demo. It's tellling me my trial period is up. Is that the way it's supposed to work?
sovereignstar
01-20-2006, 03:00 PM
Question on the demo:
I downloaded the original demo, but it kept crashing on my computer. I decided to wait and see if it ran ok on my computer after it came out, so I just downloaded the "retail" demo and installed it after uninstalling the old demo. It's tellling me my trial period is up. Is that the way it's supposed to work?
First, I'm pretty sure you didn't want to uninstall the demo. The "retail" demo is actually a file that will upgrade the demo to the retail version, which will allow you to purchase the game. I can see how you got confused.
sovereignstar
01-20-2006, 03:02 PM
What kind of crashing problems were you having by the way?
What kind of crashing problems were you having by the way?
CTD after setting up the options. Happened twice, so I abandoned the demo figuring I'd try the demo again once it was released.
Gary Gorski
01-20-2006, 09:11 PM
Can you be more specific on the CTDs - it could be something like not having a proper support file.
Galaril
01-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Gary, Will we see the Patch tonight?
Gary Gorski
01-20-2006, 09:42 PM
I think its going to be tomorrow - Im trying out something with the 2D to make it easier to follow without the pbp text
Glengoyne
01-20-2006, 10:58 PM
As for more suggestions for those who play the games out.
I'll add that I'd like to see the Time Out strategy options made available more often. Especially during media time Outs. NOTE: if that happens...then try and do something to make the media timeouts stand out a little....just so we don't fly past them without noticing.
Also if there could be more T.O. strategy options..possibly expanding the options based on the offensive set.
Oh and making the 2D easier to follow sounds like a great place to focus energy. Good Job.
One other comment about the 2D. Personally when I've turned my offense to favor inside heavilly..if my Center continuously got the ball in deep and then fed it back outside...He wouldn't be playing much longer. If the positions depicted are supposed to remotely reflect the positions of the players...Well I just get the impression that don't. It's almost like the players are just moving in patterns that don't relate too much to the events in the game.
Galaril
01-20-2006, 11:29 PM
Just a note I had ask Gary about media time outs on GDS's board and he mentioned he was looking at adding them for now.
Can you be more specific on the CTDs - it could be something like not having a proper support file.
Not really. It just crashed to the desktop. No errors or anything.
MizzouRah
01-21-2006, 11:32 AM
This ought to be a nice game to dig into while I'm in Kansas City. :)
Patch is out!!
http://72.29.67.246/GDS/TCBv1_1.zip
This patch contains two files - both need to overwrite files currently in your main TCB folder. Saved games should work fine - the only exception will probably be anyone who suffered a RTE 9 at the end of the season (not the Nov 19th one). This patch fixes the ability to create a league from a file as well - I'm going to post a file in the Mod section that you can download and edit so that you can create a league with players and coaches as well.
Here's a list of issues this patch covered
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- fixed display issue for rebounds on visiting team PG/SG
- fixed RTE 9 after Nov 19th
- fixed RTE 91 advancing to new season
- fixed RTE issues with switching to a lineage coach
- fixed RTE 6 before, during and after games
- fixed issue with blocks in played out games
- fixed 2D display issue with 1-3-1 zone offense and offensive fouls
- fixed bug at beginning of recruiting period that allowed scholarships to double
- fixed loss of scholarship issue
- fixed export recruit button for MP
- tweaked polls
- tweaked ability to get facility upgrades
- fixed bug causing players not to foul in backcourt
- fixed bug causing teams to run wrong offense after beating press
- tweaked offense looking for shots and at buzzer
- fixed issues with importing/exporting league data
- fixes issue with creating league from file
- fixed shot clock resetting on blocked shot
- made popup display in 2D larger and contains more info
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DaddyTorgo
01-21-2006, 03:24 PM
oh HELL yes
DaddyTorgo
01-21-2006, 04:08 PM
dola
and now i can continue my season and see that of my National Championship Winning team, 3 of them went in the Top 10 in the 2009 pro draft (#1, #5, #9) and a 4th went #17
MizzouRah
01-21-2006, 05:39 PM
Well, looks like purchase #3 from GD.
Eaglesfan27
01-21-2006, 05:51 PM
This game might be my next dynasty. Starting up a career now :)
MizzouRah
01-21-2006, 05:58 PM
This game might be my next dynasty. Starting up a career now :)Would love to read a TCB dynasty. In fact I'm surprised none have surfaced here yet.
Edit: Not sure if I should go with Missouri or start at the bottom like I did in BBCF?
Eaglesfan27
01-21-2006, 06:01 PM
Would love to read a TCB dynasty. In fact I'm surprised none have surfaced here yet.
I think I will start one. My only concern is if a big remaining bug will be present that will necessitate a re-started career after patching.
Edit: I will start somewhat near the bottom and try to work my way up to USC and help re-vitalize their program.
MizzouRah
01-21-2006, 06:06 PM
I think I will start one. My only concern is if a big remaining bug will be present that will necessitate a re-started career after patching.
Edit: I will start somewhat near the bottom and try to work my way up to USC and help re-vitalize their program.
Well, considering Gary's track record with TPB 2005, it seems to me he waits a bit for his first patch before releasing it just for the reason you state above.
Not that a big bug couldn't be lurking out there, but with the release of this patch, I feel pretty confident in finally purchasing and starting a new career.
DaddyTorgo
01-21-2006, 06:12 PM
i think i'll start one too probably. Just needed to wait for that first patch to come out to address the issues.
Gary Gorski
01-21-2006, 06:37 PM
Don't worry about your dyansties guys - fire them up. Even if some bug is lurking out there if you really wanted to continue a dynasty that a patch would halt or something I would be happy to do my best to go into the code and edit what I can to keep it moving.
DaddyTorgo
01-21-2006, 06:44 PM
Don't worry about your dyansties guys - fire them up. Even if some bug is lurking out there if you really wanted to continue a dynasty that a patch would halt or something I would be happy to do my best to go into the code and edit what I can to keep it moving.<3
MizzouRah
01-21-2006, 08:32 PM
... and so begins my Sacred Heart career..
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5836/fgame7br.gif
DaddyTorgo
01-21-2006, 08:34 PM
ewww....Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart=Worcester. YUK.
although our girls soccer team did win the state championship there my...junior year? senior year?
MizzouRah
01-21-2006, 08:36 PM
ewww....Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart=Worcester. YUK.
although our girls soccer team did win the state championship there my...junior year? senior year?
Well, it was a low prestige team and my dad's church is Sacred Heart. :)
Funny, it's only been one game and the 2d display is so friggin involving. Really makes me like and dislike some of my players already!!
Galaril
01-21-2006, 10:02 PM
Fairfield, Connecticut =sacred heart
Schmidty
01-21-2006, 10:12 PM
So, is this worth spending the 35 bucks on? Is it close to FBCB?
DaddyTorgo
01-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Fairfield, Connecticut =sacred heartoh that's right. why am i thinking sacred heart=holy cross??
silly me
Eaglesfan27
01-21-2006, 10:31 PM
Don't worry about your dyansties guys - fire them up. Even if some bug is lurking out there if you really wanted to continue a dynasty that a patch would halt or something I would be happy to do my best to go into the code and edit what I can to keep it moving.
Excellent! I'm having a blast with my first real dynasty, and this is very good news.
sovereignstar
01-21-2006, 10:33 PM
So, is this worth spending the 35 bucks on? Is it close to FBCB?
demo
TroyF
01-21-2006, 10:34 PM
So, is this worth spending the 35 bucks on? Is it close to FBCB?
Yes and yes.
Schmidty
01-21-2006, 10:51 PM
demo
I like those. I go to Costco all the time. I love it when Ethel busts out the artichoke dip.
Schmidty
01-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Yes and yes.
Cool thanks :)
Ben E Lou
01-22-2006, 12:27 PM
Is there no option to micromanage player training? I can't find it if there is...
lynchjm24
01-22-2006, 01:00 PM
Fairfield, Connecticut =sacred heart
For all intents and purposes, Sacred Heart is in Bridgeport. Some years back as Bridgeport deteriorated they 'moved' to Fairfield, with the campus staying in the exact same place.
I hate Dave Bike and Sacred Heart.
Gary Gorski
01-22-2006, 01:06 PM
Is there no option to micromanage player training? I can't find it if there is...
No, there's not an option to do this - this was a design decison based on exactly how you worded your question. I did not want to get into gritty micromanagement. There's so much to do with year round recruiting and all of the "seasonal" issues that I wanted to keep that part of the game simple - I felt there was enough to worry about without having to set how many hours each player shoots free throws or goes to study hall or whatever.
Ben E Lou
01-22-2006, 01:25 PM
No, there's not an option to do this - this was a design decison based on exactly how you worded your question. I did not want to get into gritty micromanagement. There's so much to do with year round recruiting and all of the "seasonal" issues that I wanted to keep that part of the game simple - I felt there was enough to worry about without having to set how many hours each player shoots free throws or goes to study hall or whatever.That's a real bummer. Doing this once or twice a year would add a lot, and wouldn't be a burden. It certainly isn't a burden in FBCB. For example, if I run a Princeton-style offense, I should be able to scale back on conditioning, and work on passing and ball-handling skills a ton. Or, if I want to go "40 Minutes Of Hell," I want to spend TONS of time on conditioning and training in athleticism and defense, and skimp on offense. I can understand such a decision for a football or baseball game, but for basketball, there are only 12-15 players to worry about. It isn't a deal-breaker, but it is a disappointment.
Schmidty
01-22-2006, 01:27 PM
No, there's not an option to do this - this was a design decison based on exactly how you worded your question. I did not want to get into gritty micromanagement. There's so much to do with year round recruiting and all of the "seasonal" issues that I wanted to keep that part of the game simple - I felt there was enough to worry about without having to set how many hours each player shoots free throws or goes to study hall or whatever.
Man, I'm reading the recruiting thread on GD's forums, and that aspect of the game sounds waaay more tedious than fun. Can any confirm that? I tend to be a low-medium level details guy in sim games, as I prefer "the big picture". Recruiting should be fun, not work, and it really sounds like it's the latter in TCB.
astrosfan64
01-22-2006, 01:27 PM
That's a real bummer. There are only 12 players, and doing this once or twice a year would add a lot. For example, if I run a Princeton-style offense, I should be able to scale back on conditioning, and work on passing and ball-handling skills a ton. Or, if I want to go "40 Minutes Of Hell," I want to spend TONS of time on conditioning and training in athleticism and defense, and skimp on offense. I can understand such a decision for a football or baseball game, but for basketball, there are only 12-15 players to worry about. It isn't a deal-breaker, but it is a disappointment.
Agree, not a deal breaker but I would like the option. Maybe in a patch or the next version?
Eaglesfan27
01-22-2006, 02:28 PM
Man, I'm reading the recruiting thread on GD's forums, and that aspect of the game sounds waaay more tedious than fun. Can any confirm that? I tend to be a low-medium level details guy in sim games, as I prefer "the big picture". Recruiting should be fun, not work, and it really sounds like it's the latter in TCB.
I don't find it tedious, but I've just started. I've got 3 guys to sign LOI already, and I didn't spend hours and hours on recruiting. Once you set your watch list, I'm finding it is not too hard to decide who to invite for visits, who to go watch live, who to visit in their home, etc.
ahbrady
01-22-2006, 02:45 PM
I have posted in the forum at Grey Dog, but I thought I would post here in case someone has seen or read a fix for my problem. I have finished my first season and have received an email about recruiting for the next year. However, I can't move past this stage. the arrows that can usually be used to advance stages aren't available, and when I go to the recruiting page, it tells me that I can't do that until June 26th. It is currently the 25th. Anyone know of anything to fix this?
EDIT - I forgot to add that this happened before the patch and is happening after installing the patch.
rexallllsc
01-22-2006, 03:17 PM
That's a real bummer. Doing this once or twice a year would add a lot, and wouldn't be a burden. It certainly isn't a burden in FBCB. For example, if I run a Princeton-style offense, I should be able to scale back on conditioning, and work on passing and ball-handling skills a ton. Or, if I want to go "40 Minutes Of Hell," I want to spend TONS of time on conditioning and training in athleticism and defense, and skimp on offense. I can understand such a decision for a football or baseball game, but for basketball, there are only 12-15 players to worry about. It isn't a deal-breaker, but it is a disappointment.
I guess the alternative is to recruit non-athletic types with increased skill rankings?
rexallllsc
01-22-2006, 03:19 PM
As far as recriting being tedious - yes and no. It does take forever - and I think the biggest thing is that you go through so many weeks before you get going with the season. Realistic, but a bit draining sometimes.
Eaglesfan27
01-22-2006, 03:43 PM
I have posted in the forum at Grey Dog, but I thought I would post here in case someone has seen or read a fix for my problem. I have finished my first season and have received an email about recruiting for the next year. However, I can't move past this stage. the arrows that can usually be used to advance stages aren't available, and when I go to the recruiting page, it tells me that I can't do that until June 26th. It is currently the 25th. Anyone know of anything to fix this?
EDIT - I forgot to add that this happened before the patch and is happening after installing the patch.
Have you picked what camps you are going to yet? I'm pretty sure you have to do that before you can advance.
You can pick that via the travel email that you are sent.
lynchjm24
01-22-2006, 04:41 PM
Man, I'm reading the recruiting thread on GD's forums, and that aspect of the game sounds waaay more tedious than fun. Can any confirm that? I tend to be a low-medium level details guy in sim games, as I prefer "the big picture". Recruiting should be fun, not work, and it really sounds like it's the latter in TCB.
I've only gone through recruiting a few times, but it gets pretty repetitive. As a small school in the Northeast I just throw away the 10 ten or so recruits in the region and then just work backwards down the list. Throw 40 or so on the call and watch list. Then just invite them to campus from the top ranking to the bottom. Then you just go to visit and watch games for the ones that are interested and you get a few of them. There really isn't a lot of nuance or skill to it.
There is a huge difference between making yourself a 55 and making yourself a 65. At a small school it's pretty easy to overrecruit as a 65. I guess Stony Brook has a top 30 class coming in next year, so maybe Steve Pikell is a 65.
Gary Gorski
01-22-2006, 05:14 PM
Man, I'm reading the recruiting thread on GD's forums, and that aspect of the game sounds waaay more tedious than fun. Can any confirm that? I tend to be a low-medium level details guy in sim games, as I prefer "the big picture". Recruiting should be fun, not work, and it really sounds like it's the latter in TCB.
It's not tedious - its involved though but really it only requires a good deal of involvement during the off-season portion of the year - once you get into the season itself recruiting is pretty much at the point where you either have your guys, you're close to having them or alot of players are off the board and you're looking to pickup what is left.
Of course the best I can suggest is to pick up the demo - you get to play a full season and since you recruit year round you start right at the point where you prepare to begin recruiting so you'll know whether you like it or not before even having to sim out the season.
Gary Gorski
01-22-2006, 05:17 PM
I've only gone through recruiting a few times, but it gets pretty repetitive. As a small school in the Northeast I just throw away the 10 ten or so recruits in the region and then just work backwards down the list. Throw 40 or so on the call and watch list. Then just invite them to campus from the top ranking to the bottom. Then you just go to visit and watch games for the ones that are interested and you get a few of them. There really isn't a lot of nuance or skill to it.
For a small school I'll admit there's less decision making than with a larger school in the game. Sometimes at the small schools you're pretty much just trying to get whoever the best guys are that will come to your school but at the larger schools where you have the ability to recruit around the whole country you do need to look at the recruits more carefully to find ones that fit your system since you have so many good players you can choose from.
sovereignstar
01-22-2006, 05:27 PM
ugh.. just ran into the duplicate player bug again
Don't have time to check out all 300+ teams, but I can only imagine there are quite a few cases of this in my career. Bumber.
Coder
01-22-2006, 05:49 PM
ugh.. just ran into the duplicate player bug again
Don't have time to check out all 300+ teams, but I can only imagine there are quite a few cases of this in my career. Bumber.
Sov and I were talking about this the other day.. this might be a silly suggestion, but could it have to do with how often you call Randomize? On a fast computer, if you call randomize too often you'll get identical streams of random numbers.
ahbrady
01-22-2006, 07:08 PM
Have you picked what camps you are going to yet? I'm pretty sure you have to do that before you can advance.
You can pick that via the travel email that you are sent.
Apparently I'm an idiot. I didn't see the travel schedule email. It wasn't bold, so I guess at some point I had read it. I didn't remember reading it though, so I didn't look down the list of emails. Thanks for helping out a moron.
Eaglesfan27
01-22-2006, 07:11 PM
No problem. It took me a bit to figure that one out too. That is why I thought of that immediately after reading about your problem.
MizzouRah
01-22-2006, 08:02 PM
I think the recruiting is quite fun and definitly non-tedious. I am only a 13 prestige school, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.
In fact, I was thinking I started off with too many good players, I have 2-3 10 rated outside shooters (1-10 scale) but they can't shoot inside so we'll see how they do as the season progresses.
DaddyTorgo
01-22-2006, 08:19 PM
play 5-out and just jack-up a ton of 3's mizzou
Eaglesfan27
01-22-2006, 08:52 PM
That is what I've resorted to with a few good outside shooters. However, I'm still getting crushed by good defenses that cover our relatively non-athletic players.
Edit: Don't forget to emphasize or really emphasize outside shooting if that is all you have going for your team.
MizzouRah
01-22-2006, 10:57 PM
I've let my coaches handle the games so far and I've been quite happy with their performance. I'm definitly a 2nd half team. Next game is against Florida St., that game should tell me where I sit. It's really early in the season right now anyway.
I will say watching them in 2D is really immersive. I find myself yelling things such as, "drive to the basket Clark", "pop that 3 Vitelli", "he got mad game!","not in my house!!".
Schmidty
01-22-2006, 11:17 PM
I will say watching them in 2D is really immersive. I find myself yelling things such as, "drive to the basket Clark", "pop that 3 Vitelli", "he got mad game!","not in my house!!".
Even when they get blown out? I can't handle that shit live.
By the way, have you ever played a game you didn't like?.;)
Galaril
01-22-2006, 11:18 PM
well, in my first real dynasty my Boston University Terriers won their America East conference with a 24-6 record.We got an automatic bid as the West seed #10. We will be palying Indiana at (23-7) the #7. I am having a blast so far but expected to get my ass handed to me in the tournament.Fun.
MizzouRah
01-22-2006, 11:56 PM
Even when they get blown out? I can't handle that shit live.
By the way, have you ever played a game you didn't like?.;)
Not recently text sims wise. I think BBMogul was the last time I've wasted money on a game. I'm not big on FM, but since so many people loathe the game, I figure its me.
Haven't been blown out yet, but I'm sure I would sim the rest out when it happens. :)
Eaglesfan27
01-23-2006, 08:12 PM
Hoping for some quick feedback:
One of my recruits has a 1.9 GPA in January and he only got an 810 on his SAT's (we require an 880.) Should I definitely back out of my committment to him? In other words, is there any chance he gets to retake the SAT's and improve on that score to become eligible?
ScottVib
01-23-2006, 08:15 PM
Hoping for some quick feedback:
One of my recruits has a 1.9 GPA in January and he only got an 810 on his SAT's (we require an 880.) Should I definitely back out of my committment to him? In other words, is there any chance he gets to retake the SAT's and improve on that score to become eligible?
Dump him... he won't be eligible.
Eaglesfan27
01-23-2006, 08:20 PM
Thanks for the quick feedback, Scott. Too bad, he looked like he was going to be one of our better defensive players.
Eaglesfan27
01-23-2006, 08:23 PM
Dola -
Quick follow-up. I can't seem to revoke his scholarship offer. I assume this is because he verbally committed to us? Is there anyway to revoke it that I'm missing or do I have to wait until he is officially declared ineligible.
Gary Gorski
01-23-2006, 09:20 PM
You should have gotten an email from your AD telling you that the scholarship was revoked automatically because of his SAT score
Eaglesfan27
01-23-2006, 09:23 PM
You should have gotten an email from your AD telling you that the scholarship was revoked automatically because of his SAT score
I haven't yet. It is Jan 30th in my career.
Edited to add: I can still go watch his games live if I want.
Gary Gorski
01-23-2006, 09:58 PM
Hmm, if you don't mind zip up your league file and the folder that goes with it and email me - gary at greydogsoftware dot com
I'd like to see a) what happened with the notification and b) try to fix it so you can revoke his scholarship. Just make sure to include some info like who the player is, how many scholarships you should have available etc...
Eaglesfan27
01-23-2006, 10:46 PM
Hmm, if you don't mind zip up your league file and the folder that goes with it and email me - gary at greydogsoftware dot com
I'd like to see a) what happened with the notification and b) try to fix it so you can revoke his scholarship. Just make sure to include some info like who the player is, how many scholarships you should have available etc...
Sending it in a few minutes with the requested info. Thanks for looking into it.
Eaglesfan27
01-25-2006, 12:06 AM
Delayed Dola -
Not a game impression, but I just wanted to say that I'm very impressed with the customer support. Gary has fixed my problem and made it so I have the scholarship available in under 24 hours and enabled me to continue my dynasty. Thanks again, Gary.
sovereignstar
01-25-2006, 05:00 AM
I'm just gonna come out and ask..
Have you figured out anything out yet in regards to the player duplication bug, Gary? Not getting a lot of love from you on the issue.
WSUCougar
01-25-2006, 08:44 AM
So I'm playing through Season 1 of my first serious dynasty, piloting the Maine Black Bears with their 17 prestige and a decent cast of lumberjacks and other characters. We have had an up and down run through the non-conference slate, and sat at 4-3 as we headed down to play Coastal Carolina. And then we headed into Bizarro World. First, the Chanticleers (that's Coastal Carolina for the uninitiated) dropped a 84-41 bomb on us. This wasn't UNC we were playing, for Pete's sake, but we sure played like it. We had something like 29 turnovers...they had TWO. Ugliest game I've seen played out thusfar in TCB.
Then we come back and play a tight road game against Utah Valley State. In the end, we lose that one by a single point as our point guard throws up a terrible shot despite coming out of a timeout WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN. Grrrr!
So then comes the wild part. We have Purdue on the schedule. Heh. After those two losses, I don't want to waste my time watching the 2-D destruction. I figure it'll be the college basketball equivalent of War of the Worlds, where the Boilermakers are the tripod thingies and we are...I dunno...dead.
So I quick sim, and we beat the living bejesus out of them, 105-83.
Okay then.
Gary Gorski
01-25-2006, 12:40 PM
I'm just gonna come out and ask..
Have you figured out anything out yet in regards to the player duplication bug, Gary? Not getting a lot of love from you on the issue.
I think so - the last couple tests I ran did not have any duplicates so I hope it will be resolved for patch 2 due this weekend
Schmidty
01-25-2006, 02:24 PM
Demo question: If I finish the season, will there be a prompt to buy the game, or do I have to download a different copy and lose my saved game?
BuffaloHuskey
01-25-2006, 02:32 PM
Demo question: If I finish the season, will there be a prompt to buy the game, or do I have to download a different copy and lose my saved game?
There will be a prompt to buy the game. Even if you don't hit the prompt immediately, you can download a different copy and still keep your saved game
sovereignstar
01-25-2006, 02:37 PM
I think so - the last couple tests I ran did not have any duplicates so I hope it will be resolved for patch 2 due this weekend
Awesome to hear that.
rexallllsc
01-25-2006, 03:08 PM
I like siming the games out live and controlling my team - but the games take a while. anyone have some suggestions?
WSUCougar
01-25-2006, 03:19 PM
I like siming the games out live and controlling my team - but the games take a while. anyone have some suggestions?
I've taken to simming the games at speed "8" with it set to stop (turnovers, fouls, etc.). It allows me to follow the action on the 2D screen, and make adjustments and subs as needed.
Haven't found much use/effect for work the ref and yell at the ref, though...
Eaglesfan27
01-25-2006, 03:21 PM
I've set the game speed to 7 if I want to watch closely and write a lot about the action. I use an 8 in games I don't care about as much or don't need to watch as closely. Also, once it is a blowout, I'll set the speed to 9 sometimes.
Schmidty
01-25-2006, 04:56 PM
I'm confused. I just finished the demo, and had offered three guys scholarships who had me as their top team, and I didn't any type of message as to if they signed, and I couldn't get into the recruiting screen. When do you find out if you got the guys you targeted?
Eaglesfan27
01-25-2006, 05:01 PM
I'm confused. I just finished the demo, and had offered three guys scholarships who had me as their top team, and I didn't any type of message as to if they signed, and I couldn't get into the recruiting screen. When do you find out if you got the guys you targeted?
They can give you a verbal committment at any time which generates an email. They also sign LOI between Nov 13th and the 19th and in early April. You get emails during these times, as well as if you go into the recruiting screen and click on the player in question, it will say if he is committed to your school.
What sort of problem are you having getting the recruiting screen?
ScottVib
01-25-2006, 05:02 PM
You can find this in the Media Section under signings. The email's were not in the demo version but you now get an email for a verbal or letter of intent signed by any recruit.
Schmidty
01-25-2006, 05:05 PM
Ok, I'll check the media area out.
Schmidty
01-25-2006, 05:07 PM
Ok, that worked. I signed the guys. I was starting to sweat, because I didn't want all my work to go down the drain. :)
Galaril
01-25-2006, 07:10 PM
I have aquestion will palyers still come to your school if you scout and do recruit actions like watch games/film and offer visits but not a scholarship?
ScottVib
01-25-2006, 07:35 PM
No. You must offer for them to come to your school. (As of right now there is no way to recruit walk ons)
jbmagic
01-25-2006, 07:45 PM
will the end of game logic at end of games and halftime be tighten up for the next patch?
There are problems with the end of game logic?
jbmagic
01-25-2006, 08:06 PM
There are problems with the end of game logic?
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11249
Eaglesfan27
01-25-2006, 11:16 PM
I don't think the end of game/end of half logic is messed up. I think people are misunderstanding the strategy page. You have to call a timeout or have a stoppage in play to implement instructions such as intentional foul, hold for last shot, 2 for 1, etc. If I've used a timeout to set that up or had a stoppage, I've never had a problem with those instructions. I have a problem if I just click on the strategy page with no stoppage in play.
Edit: Actually, Gary's reply states that intentional foul should immediately respond. It doesn't. However, if I use a timeout or there is a stoppage, it works fine.
jbmagic
01-25-2006, 11:23 PM
I don't think the end of game/end of half logic is messed up. I think people are misunderstanding the strategy page. You have to call a timeout or have a stoppage in play to implement instructions such as intentional foul, hold for last shot, 2 for 1, etc. If I've used a timeout to set that up or had a stoppage, I've never had a problem with those instructions. I have a problem if I just click on the strategy page with no stoppage in play.
Edit: Actually, Gary's reply states that intentional foul should immediately respond. It doesn't. However, if I use a timeout or there is a stoppage, it works fine.
but i am not seeing the AI doing it.
and AI dont call enough timeouts.
The Ai needs to play smartly at end of halftime and end of game.
Gary Gorski
01-25-2006, 11:29 PM
but i am not seeing the AI doing it.
and AI dont call enough timeouts.
what do you mean you are not seeing the AI do it? You're not going to see what strategy the AI is using but I can assure you that the AI does use its strategic options.
As for the AI not calling enough timeouts, what do you base that on? How many timeouts are "enough" to call in a game?
Gary Gorski
01-25-2006, 11:33 PM
I don't think the end of game/end of half logic is messed up. I think people are misunderstanding the strategy page. You have to call a timeout or have a stoppage in play to implement instructions such as intentional foul, hold for last shot, 2 for 1, etc. If I've used a timeout to set that up or had a stoppage, I've never had a problem with those instructions. I have a problem if I just click on the strategy page with no stoppage in play.
Edit: Actually, Gary's reply states that intentional foul should immediately respond. It doesn't. However, if I use a timeout or there is a stoppage, it works fine.
There is a bug that when you are trying to foul out of a zone it just seems to freeze players and a bunch of time runs off - that will be fixed in this weekend's patch and also with the patch it will change your offensive and defensive strategies every time you open the strategy popup so it will allow you to switch offenses and defenses on the fly
jbmagic
01-25-2006, 11:35 PM
what do you mean you are not seeing the AI do it? You're not going to see what strategy the AI is using but I can assure you that the AI does use its strategic options.
As for the AI not calling enough timeouts, what do you base that on? How many timeouts are "enough" to call in a game?
there are games where the AI is behind and they should intentional foul and there just running the clock all the way to the end at end of games.
in close games and behind:
there are times at end of the game, where they need to shoot a 3 pointer and they go for 2 or just let the clock run out.
on timeouts, its frustrating to see the AI only call a few timeouts compare to human teams when playing the games out.
Eaglesfan27
01-25-2006, 11:37 PM
I've seen the AI intentionally foul me plenty of times. They don't seem to do it, if it is a blowout and they are down by 15 or more (which is realistic in my opinion.) But in close games, I've been fouled constantly down the stretch.
WSUCougar
01-26-2006, 12:47 PM
Ugh. Already thin in the front court, I just lost TWO PFs to poor grades as a nasty lump of coal in my Christmas stocking. Just as the conference schedule is starting. I guess you're just kinda stuck with that, eh?
Eaglesfan27
01-26-2006, 02:25 PM
Ugh. Already thin in the front court, I just lost TWO PFs to poor grades as a nasty lump of coal in my Christmas stocking. Just as the conference schedule is starting. I guess you're just kinda stuck with that, eh?
Yeah, I lost my two top SF's to academic problems and it crushed me until I figured out some new rotations and a new defense.
MizzouRah
01-26-2006, 05:03 PM
I don't recall the AI calling any timeouts in the few games I've played.
WSU those 3 games you had sound a little out of whack to me. Weird.
Schmidty
01-26-2006, 05:24 PM
I have a little extra money, and I am having so much trouble deciding whether to get TCB or TEW. I still play BBCF a few times a week, but I need another game to play on other occasions. If I was sure that TEW doesn't end up becoming tedious and repetitive after a while, I'd buy that first. I know I'll like TCB, but the potential of total immersion seems higher in TEW.
MizzouRah
01-26-2006, 05:26 PM
TEW is awesome, I love that game. :D ;)
Schmidty
01-26-2006, 05:31 PM
TEW is awesome, I love that game. :D ;)
I loved the demo, but I'm just worried that it'll go very slow (time-wise) and I'll get bored spending countless hours and only progressing a couple of years game-time. I like the "dynasty" feeling of sports sims. I'm not really a nitty-gritty details guy.
I think I might just close my eyes and pick the game to buy. :)
Eaglesfan27
01-26-2006, 05:35 PM
I don't recall the AI calling any timeouts in the few games I've played.
WSU those 3 games you had sound a little out of whack to me. Weird.
The only timeouts I've seen are when a) I get a big momentum meter going, which I've done quite a bit lately. b) One time they had an exhausted guy on the court who was very low on fatigue (but I also was starting to build momentum.)
MizzouRah
01-26-2006, 05:36 PM
I've never played it actually, just wanted to rile you.
Calis
01-26-2006, 05:47 PM
So I tried out the demo for this the other day, and about an hour later purchased it.
Very impressed so far. I expected to be jumping right back into FBCB shortly after trying this out, but that ain't happening. One thing I'm really running into now during my 5th season at Wichita State, is how selective you need to be with recruiting. The number of guys I've had transfer from lack of playing time, ughh..lesson learned, makes things very tough. In FBCB I'd just recruit the top guy available, here I'm focusing a lot more on their wants/needs/proficiencies.
If I can make one suggestion that should be easy to implement I believe and very nice for me. Give us an option to turn off ALL the sounds. I know I can turn in-game sounds on or off, but I'm usually listening to music while I play a text-sim, and those click noises can get REAL loud. :)
Great stuff though, I can see me playing this one for a long time. I've only played a few games out also, so the whole in-game thing I've barely touched. I just wanted to get a few seasons in and get my team setup how I want it, and playing my style, then I'll dive in. If only I can get over the mid 50's hump in prestige.
Fouts
01-26-2006, 06:25 PM
I started a new league and had a problem with my last game for the SF Dons. It is bracket buster Sunday and when I go to play the game I get "Run-time '91': object variable or With block variable not set"
The screen shows 3 players as FirstName before going to the error. Game crashes at that point.
Note: I went back in and tried simming the game and it went fine. The bracket buster game (out of conference game that comes after the conference games - in place of a conference tourney, I'm guessing) might be a problem to look at though.
Gary Gorski
01-26-2006, 10:20 PM
I started a new league and had a problem with my last game for the SF Dons. It is bracket buster Sunday and when I go to play the game I get "Run-time '91': object variable or With block variable not set"
The screen shows 3 players as FirstName before going to the error. Game crashes at that point.
Note: I went back in and tried simming the game and it went fine. The bracket buster game (out of conference game that comes after the conference games - in place of a conference tourney, I'm guessing) might be a problem to look at though.
Thanks - it had to do with displaying the court. It will be fixed for this weekend's patch along with 19 other fixes/additions
Fouts
01-26-2006, 11:49 PM
Thanks - it had to do with displaying the court. It will be fixed for this weekend's patch along with 19 other fixes/additions
Awesome, thanks.
Ben E Lou
01-27-2006, 04:23 AM
Thanks - it had to do with displaying the court. It will be fixed for this weekend's patch along with 19 other fixes/additionsLst pls k thx
Gary Gorski
01-27-2006, 08:09 AM
ok, as of last night there are 21 things that will be addressed in version 1.2 to be released sometime this weekend
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- fixed RTE 91 trying to access media section when not employed
- added ability to fire coaches with no penalty prior to recruiting starting
- fixed bug allowing you to hire assistants for jobs they should not be interested in
- fixed bug allowing you to sign assistant coaches for any amount in offseason
- fixed bug allowing redshirted or inelligible players to be placed in sub matrix
- fixed bug not updating "Drive" rating category when importing edited data
- properly displays updated player ratings after importing edited data
- fixed duplicate player issue
- fixed RTE 91 after played out games where "back" button was used before game
- fixed RTE 11 creating elite lineage coach
- fixed issue with assists credited after scores on offensive rebounds
- fixed bug not revoking scholarships from recruits that don't meet a school's SAT minimum
- fixed RTE 91 after purchasing reports
- fixed RTE 3163 at seasons end caused by having too long a name for the tournaments
- fixed bug trying to intentionally foul out of zone defense
- added options to create only certain HTML pages
- fixed bug not allowing immediate switches of offense and defense
- courts will now correctly be displayed for conference tournaments
- altered distribution of players on all conference teams
- fixed RTE 91 when playing out Bracket Breaker Sunday games
- fixed bug allowing you to set defensive strategies to more than 100% total
Ben E Lou
01-27-2006, 08:15 AM
thx
Eaglesfan27
01-27-2006, 08:20 AM
Gary,
Will we be able to continue careers without any problem?
Gary Gorski
01-27-2006, 08:34 AM
Yup, no need to restart your careers
WSUCougar
01-27-2006, 10:29 AM
added ability to fire coaches with no penalty prior to recruiting starting
BOO-YA! :D
jbmagic
01-27-2006, 11:15 AM
Gary great news thanks
any chance we goign to see the play by play logs added to patch 1.2?
Calis
01-27-2006, 11:50 AM
Something I'd love to see also, seeing as how I go through seasons pretty fast.
A way to run all transfer sessions at once, or some sort of one click mechanism. If I don't have any transfers, it's very annoying going through all 6 phases of it. Or don't make us go back out of the transfer screen every time. It's the one thing I'm dreading every season.
Gary Gorski
01-27-2006, 11:59 AM
pbp logs are not in for 1.2 and a few people have mentioned the transfer period so I will see if I can do a workaround where you can sim them all once you're done with them
KJDelaney
01-27-2006, 12:15 PM
Maybe it's just me, but are PBP logs THAT important?
sovereignstar
01-27-2006, 12:19 PM
Maybe it's just me, but are PBP logs THAT important?
To some, yes. If you quick-sim your games it gives you a much better idea as to what went down late in the 4th quarter (or whatever).
jbmagic
01-27-2006, 12:19 PM
Maybe it's just me, but are PBP logs THAT important?
i think they are for people that like to sim there games and look at the pbp logs later. this way we can look at pbp and the box scores.
it also will be important for online leagues to see how there team did by looking at the pbp log.
sovereignstar
01-27-2006, 12:23 PM
it also will be important for online leagues to see how there team did by looking at the pbp log.
Yes. Good point about the online leagues.
KJDelaney
01-27-2006, 12:23 PM
That is something that I don't do.
But I can now see why it is important.
Thanks.
Calis
01-27-2006, 01:03 PM
I'm loving this game. Have to love that first complete suprise breakout player for you. I had a SG who just transferred in from JuCo, good player but didn't expect anything outstanding. Then both my other SG's went down and he was left alone. He has played EVERY minute of the season so far, and has led us to a 14-0 start, 26.2 PPG, 6 boards per game..shooting about 46% from the field and is 67-162 from 3 so far. Nasty stuff. Had completely even forgotten recruiting this guy. It's even more odd because for the first 7 seasons of my Wichita State Dynasty, I'd prided myself on the even stats. I never had anything close to this. Not to mention my stud Sophomore who's up for the Norton again can't be happy about this. He's been overshadowed big time.
Couple things I'm noticing though, that might be worth looking into. One is still the Polls..I was ranked #18 and #20 in the Polls, had a week where I beat Cincy who was unranked but solid, and then beat #1 Duke who was 12-0 at the time. I wound up dropping to #20 and #23. I've had this happen a few times, but not a huge deal as I can imagine how big of a pain in the ass it can be to program the polls.
The other interesting thing I'm noticing is the fact that the player I was preaching about earlier who's playing all game keeps on getting 41 minutes played in his stats every game. Obviously not a big deal but a little odd. I haven't seen any other players playing that much, so not sure if it's just a one-shot deal. Just weird seeing your guy avg'ing 41 mpg with no OT games.
jbmagic
01-27-2006, 01:18 PM
i notice a game i watch where one team didnt call a single timeout.
i think in real life college teams at least call 2 timeouts or more in a game.
But this game is very solid. Total pro basketball is great, but TCB is even better.
lynchjm24
01-27-2006, 06:07 PM
i notice a game i watch where one team didnt call a single timeout.
i think in real life college teams at least call 2 timeouts or more in a game.
But this game is very solid. Total pro basketball is great, but TCB is even better.
There are plenty of coaches who like to take them home. Howie Dickenman at Central Connecticut State would go the whole season without calling a timeout if he had his way.
rexallllsc
01-27-2006, 06:08 PM
There are plenty of coaches who like to take them home. Howie Dickenman at Central Connecticut State would go the whole season without calling a timeout if he had his way.
It should be pointed out that this is the extreme exception to the rule.
lynchjm24
01-27-2006, 06:09 PM
It should be pointed out that this is the extreme exception to the rule.
He said 'a' game.
rexallllsc
01-27-2006, 06:15 PM
He said 'a' game.
It's happened in a number of mine as well.
Patch 1.2 released!
http://72.29.67.246/GDS/TCBv1_2.zip
For anyone who updated to 1.1 already you only need to overwrite your TCB.exe file with the one here. If you are updating from 1.0 you need both files in this zip.
1/28 version 1.2 released
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- fixed RTE 91 trying to access media section when not employed
- added ability to fire coaches with no penalty prior to recruiting starting
- fixed bug allowing you to hire assistants for jobs they should not be interested in
- fixed bug allowing you to sign assistant coaches for any amount in offseason
- fixed bug allowing redshirted or inelligible players to be placed in sub matrix
- fixed bug not updating "Drive" rating category when importing edited data
- properly displays updated player ratings after importing edited data
- fixed duplicate player issue
- fixed RTE 91 after played out games where "back" button was used before game
- fixed RTE 11 creating elite lineage coach
- fixed issue with assists credited after scores on offensive rebounds
- fixed bug not revoking scholarships from recruits that don't meet a school's SAT minimum
- fixed RTE 91 after purchasing reports
- fixed RTE 3163 at seasons end caused by having too long a name for the tournaments
- fixed bug trying to intentionally foul out of zone defense
- added options to create only certain HTML pages
- fixed bug not allowing immediate switches of offense and defense
- courts will now correctly be displayed for conference tournaments
- altered distribution of players on all conference teams
- fixed RTE 91 when playing out Bracket Breaker Sunday games
- fixed bug allowing you to set defensive strategies to more than 100% total
MizzouRah
01-28-2006, 03:47 PM
Brilliant!!
Eaglesfan27
01-28-2006, 04:03 PM
Awesome, I was waiting on this to finish my first season of my dynasty :)
Emiliano
01-28-2006, 06:54 PM
Great!
Fouts
01-29-2006, 06:43 AM
I started a new league and had a problem with my last game for the SF Dons. It is bracket buster Sunday and when I go to play the game I get "Run-time '91': object variable or With block variable not set"
The screen shows 3 players as FirstName before going to the error. Game crashes at that point.
Note: I went back in and tried simming the game and it went fine. The bracket buster game (out of conference game that comes after the conference games - in place of a conference tourney, I'm guessing) might be a problem to look at though.
Gary, you fixed the bracket breaker game, so I was able to play past it. Now I can't play my first game in the WCC tourney. Same exact error as stated above. :(
Gary Gorski
01-29-2006, 09:03 AM
Im assuming this is with a modded file - try doing this. Take a court from the courts folder, copy it and rename it WCC.jpg and see if it allows you to move past then
Eaglesfan27
01-29-2006, 10:32 AM
I had the same problem, except I got a RTE 53 I think. I had to rename the court, Sun Belt.jpg (I believe it was a jpg and not a gif) to get past the Sun Belt Conference Tournament. Now, I'm off to play my first NCAA Tournament game! :)
I'm going to review all the court names in the logos pack now to be sure that are working properly, i coul dnot test them before as the court logos were nto enabled until this patch version.
Update: you're right, all the conference courts are wrong named as they were not being used before the 1.2 patch. I'm renaming them correctly now and will upload a new installer in a few minutes.
all-in-one installer updated to 1.2 with the following changes:
1.2 changes:
- Renamed all the conference courts to be used by the game after patch 1.2
- Added Outlaw77's ingame sounds
- Added Rockpsl76 new faces
http://www.prodeportes.com/tcb/TCB-RealPack12.exe (http://www.prodeportes.com/tcb/TCB-RealPack.exe)
ThunderingHERD
01-29-2006, 02:48 PM
Any word on a TPB update for importing draft classes?
Coder
01-29-2006, 02:56 PM
Any word on a TPB update for importing draft classes?
Quoted for emphasis :D
Ben E Lou
01-29-2006, 06:48 PM
Am I just lucky? I started with Kennesaw State, the lowest Prestige (0) in the Atlantic Sun. My three seasons so far:
2005: 19-11 (9-7)
2006: 19-10 (10-6)
2007: 23-8 (12-4)
In '07, I won the Conference Tourney even. Prestige has gone from 0 to 11 in three seasons.
Eaglesfan27
01-29-2006, 07:03 PM
I won my conference tournament, but I wish I could do that well Skydog.
MizzouRah
01-29-2006, 07:12 PM
So far, my start has been good with Sacred Heart, but I think I started with a good group of players and I'm wondering how good I'll do in subseqent years. I see it your case, you're doing on heck of a job.
Are you just recruiting well?
Fouts
01-30-2006, 04:52 AM
Im assuming this is with a modded file - try doing this. Take a court from the courts folder, copy it and rename it WCC.jpg and see if it allows you to move past then
Yes, this is using ICY's files. Thanks for the quick response. If I had paid more attention, I could have fixed it right away. The game loaded after I copied WDC to and renamed to WCC. Close enough for me.
Yes, this is using ICY's files. Thanks for the quick response. If I had paid more attention, I could have fixed it right away. The game loaded after I copied WDC to and renamed to WCC. Close enough for me.I released yesterday an updated all in one autoinstaller with the right conference courts renamed to fix that crashes and also included some more addons. I couldn't test the courts before because they were not enabled and that caused the crashes after the 1.2 update. Sorry about that.
Ben E Lou
01-30-2006, 06:41 AM
So far, my start has been good with Sacred Heart, but I think I started with a good group of players and I'm wondering how good I'll do in subseqent years. I see it your case, you're doing on heck of a job.
Are you just recruiting well?I'm not sure I'm recruiting all that well (no ranking that I can find). I've landed one player rated "B" overall, (but he's just a freshman now), and everyone else has been a "C."
FWIW, I was picked to finish 8th in the Atlantic Sun my fourth season, and we went 19-11 and won the conf. tourney again. That was after having lost four starters from the previous year's team. We'll be relatively stacked going into next year, having lost only one guy who saw significant minutes in the 19-11 season.
EDIT: I mean, I started with a poor coach (or whatever the worst setting was), and the worst team in the game, and I'm 80-41 with two conference titles. Granted, I've done some heavy tinkering with my depth charts and game plans, but I don't think I'm *that* good already. ;)
MizzouRah
01-30-2006, 08:45 AM
I'm not sure I'm recruiting all that well (no ranking that I can find). I've landed one player rated "B" overall, (but he's just a freshman now), and everyone else has been a "C."
FWIW, I was picked to finish 8th in the Atlantic Sun my fourth season, and we went 19-11 and won the conf. tourney again. That was after having lost four starters from the previous year's team. We'll be relatively stacked going into next year, having lost only one guy who saw significant minutes in the 19-11 season.
EDIT: I mean, I started with a poor coach (or whatever the worst setting was), and the worst team in the game, and I'm 80-41 with two conference titles. Granted, I've done some heavy tinkering with my depth charts and game plans, but I don't think I'm *that* good already. ;)
Definitly a little concerning.
WSUCougar
01-30-2006, 08:52 AM
I mean, I started with a poor coach (or whatever the worst setting was), and the worst team in the game
You started with the worst prestige in the game - but did you compare the relative talent levels in the conference? In other words, are you winning "flukey" or do you have talent enough to win at the levels you are experiencing?
Ben E Lou
01-30-2006, 09:14 AM
Youy started with the worst prestige in the game - but did you compare the relative talent levels in the conference? In other words, are you winning "flukey" or do you have talent enough to win at the levels you are experiencing?Well, with my crappy scouting, it is hard to tell. Point being, I can't help but wonder if I'm experiencing the same issue that was in the initial release of BBCF: initial talent not tied enough to initial prestige. Doing a reload of the 2005 season, there were three schools that were 20ish+ or more higher than me in prestige, and only one other team in the Atantic Sun starts out below 10. I'm guessing that it is a talent gap (lack of) issue.
hoosiergoody
01-30-2006, 09:44 AM
Most of what I have seen has been pretty good for how teams really fare. I would think that K.St.'s players are ranked "too highly" for them coming in as a DI this year vs. D2 in previous years... ??
MizzouRah
01-30-2006, 12:36 PM
I would love to see the players season stats when looking at the starters on the pre game screen. It lists their height, weight, and year in school... I would also like to see their ppg and other note worthy stats... actually there is enough information on the "view starters" screen once in the game. I would like to see the above stats added to the first page when you want to play/watch a game, where it lists just the starters names. That data would look good there.
A few things so far:
1. Highlight team when looking in media section under all three headings.
2. When reading the top story of two top teams getting ready to play eachother, the players position and name need a space between them, it looks like this now: PGKerry Haralson. Purely cosmetic I know.
3. I would love to see a sort by "NCAA" on all screens that have team search capabilities. The same in simming games.
4. Game "remembers" when playing a game, I like sim speed at 8, enable auto-subs "on", and pause at all stops "off"... I hate setting this every game.
Game has been quite fun thus far and a big reason why I'm not anxious for BBCF 1.1 :)
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Eaglesfan27
01-30-2006, 12:38 PM
Once the little kinks are worked out, I'm hoping that HTML output will be added to help us dynasty writers :)
Gary Gorski
01-30-2006, 01:21 PM
The game already contains HTML output - login to your league as the commissioner and you will see the HTML option.
As for the Kennesaw State stuff - first the game doesn't know that its a new D1 program - as far as the game is concerned its just a school that has X prestige and players are generated accordingly. Also at those schools one somewhat decent player makes a big difference so maybe Ben just got lucky when the initial rosters were created.
Ben E Lou
01-30-2006, 01:34 PM
Also at those schools one somewhat decent player makes a big difference so maybe Ben just got lucky when the initial rosters were created.I don't think so. I'll have to double-check when I get home, but I don't think I had a player on the All-Conference first team until the second or third season. If my success had been due to just one or two standout players, it would have been easier to understand, but based on talent, I'm getting picked to finish middle-of-the-pack or worse each year, and end up at the top of the conference. Coaching is important, but shouldn't be THAT important, should it?
I played out another season right before I left this morning, and against finished at the top of the conference. I lost the Conference Championship game, but nearly won a game in the NIT against someone who should have been quite a bit better.
Eaglesfan27
01-30-2006, 02:34 PM
The game already contains HTML output - login to your league as the commissioner and you will see the HTML option.
Wow. I can't believe I missed this. Thanks for the info :)
ScottVib
01-30-2006, 04:43 PM
Coaching is important, but shouldn't be THAT important, should it?
Out of curiousity what kind of strategies/offense/defense are you running?
Ben E Lou
01-30-2006, 04:46 PM
Out of curiousity what kind of strategies/offense/defense are you running?I'll have to look when I get home, but it is heavily personnel-based.
Neuqua
01-30-2006, 05:48 PM
How come every time I try to play the download, I get a message saying "This Trial has expired?"
Don't you get to play a single game year before it locks up? I really want to give the game a shot but I can't seem to. I've deleted, and re-downloaded the demo many times.
Eaglesfan27
01-30-2006, 06:35 PM
Following up on my previous post. I did almost upset St. Johns with my UNO Privateers in the NCAA tournament, but most of the time that I've played a team much better than me (20 or more prestige points) I've been killed. I'm in the middle of getting beat badly by Marshall right now (they are 25 prestige points higher.)
ScottVib
01-30-2006, 06:41 PM
How come every time I try to play the download, I get a message saying "This Trial has expired?"
Don't you get to play a single game year before it locks up? I really want to give the game a shot but I can't seem to. I've deleted, and re-downloaded the demo many times.
Sounds like you downloaded the demo to retail patch and not the demo. The demo is not wrapped with eLicense at all.
You can get the demo here: http://www.greydogsoftware.com/downloads.php?id=54
WSUCougar
01-30-2006, 10:20 PM
Argh. I'm still getting the RTE 53 with my saved game when I try to play my conference tournament. The court files are all JPGs. I've loaded ICY's most recent file. What to do? :(
Eaglesfan27
01-30-2006, 10:21 PM
Argh. I'm still getting the RTE 53 with my saved game when I try to play my conference tournament. The court files are all JPGs. I've loaded ICY's most recent file. What to do? :(
I got that RTE when one of them was misnamed. Pay close attention to the exact name of the pic it is asking for when you get the error, and check to see if it is named properly in the court directory. Rename it if isn't. Perhaps Icy had a single typo when he renamed all of the court files?
Pumpy Tudors
01-30-2006, 10:27 PM
I did almost upset St. Johns with my UNO Privateers in the NCAA tournamenthttp://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3315/privateercyril2.jpg
Eaglesfan27
01-30-2006, 10:30 PM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3315/privateercyril2.jpg
I'm surprised you hadn't popped into the dynasty thread yet. Then again, the title of the thread gives no idea that I started with UNO (since I plan on bolting as soon as Southern Cal offers me their job.)
Pumpy Tudors
01-30-2006, 10:32 PM
I'm surprised you hadn't popped into the dynasty thread yet. Then again, the title of the thread gives no idea that I started with UNO (since I plan on bolting as soon as Southern Cal offers me their job.)I haven't visited the dynasty forum in a week. I guess while you're at UNO, though, I should enjoy the ride. Go Privateers!
WSUCougar
01-30-2006, 11:07 PM
I got that RTE when one of them was misnamed. Pay close attention to the exact name of the pic it is asking for when you get the error, and check to see if it is named properly in the court directory. Rename it if isn't. Perhaps Icy had a single typo when he renamed all of the court files?
Yup, that did the trick. The court file for the American East Conference wasn't named AEC.jpg
Thanks, EF!
Eaglesfan27
01-30-2006, 11:09 PM
Yup, that did the trick. The court file for the American East Conference wasn't named AEC.jpg
Thanks, EF!
Glad to help :)
Yup, that did the trick. The court file for the American East Conference wasn't named AEC.jpg
Thanks, EF!It is properly named AEC.jpg in my PC, i wonder if you downloaded the latest one before i edited the link (that was pointing to the old file for an hour or so after i announced it). Anyway i'm glad you found the problem.
WSUCougar
01-31-2006, 06:21 AM
It is properly named AEC.jpg in my PC, i wonder if you downloaded the latest one before i edited the link (that was pointing to the old file for an hour or so after i announced it). Anyway i'm glad you found the problem.
Yeah, that was the strange part. I even went back and downloaded it again (twice) to be sure. Anyway, no harm done.
By the way, Icy, great stuff with the mod. That makes a huge difference to me in terms of immersion. But where is the "face pack" (Rockpsl76 new faces) when the file installs? Is it hidden in the original face file?
Yeah, that was the strange part. I even went back and downloaded it again (twice) to be sure. Anyway, no harm done.
By the way, Icy, great stuff with the mod. That makes a huge difference to me in terms of immersion. But where is the "face pack" (Rockpsl76 new faces) when the file installs? Is it hidden in the original face file?Yeah, the faces are put into the original faces folder along with the default ones, it adds like 200 new faces if i'm not wrong, so you will get more variety on the random faces generated for new recruits.
WSUCougar
01-31-2006, 09:50 AM
Thanks, Icy. :)
Couple tidbits to report after the season ended. One cause for concern is that the national All-American team was comprised of four centers and a power forward, with two more centers and a power forward on the 2nd team. Yikes.
Second, why are the assistant coaches salaries all guaranteed for the length of the deal? It was my understanding that version 1.2 made the staff hiring process more flexible at the beginning of the dynasty, but apparently that is not so between seasons?
Finally, a question related to transfers and how open scholarships are calculated. It said a transferred player won't be available until next season (which I understand), but it seemed that the scholarship situation was dependent on the current season. In other words, I had no open scholarships in 2006 but would have five available in 2007, but it said I had none open for a transfer in 2006 (who would first be eligible to play in 2007). Is that how it really works?
Having a blast with the game, by the way. My backwoods Maine recruit at PF looks to be a well-developed inside force on offense. First look at his ratings and he's already a "9" on inside shooting, a "7" on offense, and and a "5" on defense. That's good news for the Black Bears.
Wolfpack
01-31-2006, 10:00 AM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3315/privateercyril2.jpg
I guess this thread is no longer worthless then....
Gary Gorski
01-31-2006, 11:18 AM
Thanks, Icy. :)
Couple tidbits to report after the season ended. One cause for concern is that the national All-American team was comprised of four centers and a power forward, with two more centers and a power forward on the 2nd team. Yikes.
Second, why are the assistant coaches salaries all guaranteed for the length of the deal? It was my understanding that version 1.2 made the staff hiring process more flexible at the beginning of the dynasty, but apparently that is not so between seasons?
The All-American team is comprised of the ten finalists for the "Norton Award" - I guess it just so happened that those were all centers and PFs I guess. If this is a common thing I'll take a look at the criteria for the the Norton Award winners.
The assistant coaches can be fired without penalty from the point where you buy the scouting reports to the point when you sim the first week of recruiting and that holds true for new and current dynasties.
Check the game into screen and be sure that it says version 1.2 just to be sure
ThunderingHERD
02-01-2006, 12:39 AM
Loaded up this game for the first time in weeks. Started a new career with UNC, just won the semifinal game 98-90, popped up the boxscore and realized that there no way my points added up to 98. In fact, they added up to 58 while my opponent's added up to 76. Checked the previous game and the box score didn't jibe with the result on that one either. Anyone else seen this?
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