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digamma
01-17-2006, 11:47 AM
If you've watched the NFL playoffs, you've no doubt seen the previews for the new CBS show Love Monkey. It premieres tonight on CBS at 10 PM. The show is a cross between High Fidelity, Jerry McGuire and Sex in the City for guys.
Anyhow, the show is produced by one of my best friends (he jokingly gave me permission to call myself a consultant for the show, as he's called me several times during filming to ask me a sports related question that's come up (one of the character's is a sportscaster)). The show has only been picked up for eight episodes, and though it has received "critical acclaim," they need viewers for it to be picked up next fall. So, if you haven't been too turned off by Dick Enberg reading promos for it after every television time out, give it a shot.
Here are some relevant links and reviews:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/love_monkey/
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/16/DDGOSGN8871.DTL&feed=rss.news
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060117/en_usatoday/gottalikethatmonkeybusiness
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/entertainment/13634410.htm?source=rss&channel=kansas_entertainment
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 11:50 AM
Not a big fan of the previews.
I liked Ed though mainly for Julie Bowen.
oliegirl
01-17-2006, 11:52 AM
I already have this set on tivo for a season pass, I think it looks great :)
digamma
01-17-2006, 11:56 AM
Not a big fan of the previews.
Having seen the pilot, I don't think the previews are a very good representation of the show. But even so, it may not be your cup o' tea, which is fine. (And I will agree that Judy Greer is no Julie Bowen.)
It's more intelligent television than the vast majority of what is out there today (but that may not be a very high standard). It's also a major departure from CBS's normal programming of all Bruckheimer mystery shows all the time.
gottimd
01-17-2006, 11:58 AM
I liked Ed though mainly for Julie Bowen.
Don't lie, you liked Ed because of Ed.
Butter
01-17-2006, 11:58 AM
I liked Tom Cavanagh a lot in Ed, and will be watching tonight... and next week... so hopefully it will be good before I get my TiVo in 2 weeks when I have to start deciding what stuff to tape and watch and what to not bother with.
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 12:04 PM
Don't lie, you liked Ed because of Ed.
You have me confusted with Butter.
Butter
01-17-2006, 12:06 PM
You have me confusted with Butter.
Yes, don't confust me with ksmurf.
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 12:07 PM
don't laugh, confusting ain't easy.
Butter
01-17-2006, 12:08 PM
confusting ain't easy.
My fave NWA song.
Crapshoot
01-17-2006, 12:09 PM
Having seen the pilot, I don't think the previews are a very good representation of the show. But even so, it may not be your cup o' tea, which is fine. (And I will agree that Judy Greer is no Julie Bowen.)
It's more intelligent television than the vast majority of what is out there today (but that may not be a very high standard). It's also a major departure from CBS's normal programming of all Bruckheimer mystery shows all the time.
yeah, I loved Ed - so I will definitely give it a shot. I'll definitely at least Tivo it - though sadly, no Julie Bowen..
sachmo71
01-17-2006, 12:11 PM
I don't like the lead guy...he was annoying on scrubs, but I'll give it a chance for you, Digamma.
AlexB
01-17-2006, 12:14 PM
From the brief previews it looked a lot like a TV version of High Fidelity... But when it crosses the pond, as it undoubtedly will, I'll give it a look
George
01-17-2006, 12:19 PM
This looks like a set-up for a Julie Bowen "Hot or Not."
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 12:20 PM
This looks like a set-up for a Julie Bowen "Hot or Not."
I'm stuffing the ballot box.
Butter
01-17-2006, 12:22 PM
I don't like the lead guy...he was annoying on scrubs, but I'll give it a chance for you, Digamma.
I was going to chastise you for confusing Tom Cavanagh with the lead on Scrubs, Zach Braff, but then I remembered that Cavanagh was on Scrubs as a guest star playing Braff's older brother. Oops. So, why make this post then, you may ask?
Simple. Post count.
M GO BLUE!!!
01-17-2006, 12:26 PM
Chick show. It has "Love" in the title.
If you want men to watch it make him a secret agent and retitle it Love Gunn
Bonegavel
01-17-2006, 12:29 PM
... (And I will agree that Judy Greer is no Julie Bowen.)...
an unfiltered googling shows that this Judy Greer isn't against showing some skin. Nicely put together, IMHO.
Butter
01-17-2006, 12:29 PM
Chick show. It has "Love" in the title.
Yes, but it also has "Monkey" in there.
What guy doesn't like some good ol' monkey hijinks?
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 12:30 PM
Yes, but it also has "Monkey" in there.
What guy doesn't like some good ol' monkey hijinks?
but it's about a guy.
guy monkey hijinks = richard simmons
digamma
01-17-2006, 12:33 PM
Chick show. It has "Love" in the title.
If you want men to watch it make him a secret agent and retitle it Love Gunn
Fair point. CBS wanted to change the title, but they fought to keep it as Love Monkey (the book on which the show is based has the same title).
kcchief19
01-17-2006, 01:16 PM
I'm planning to give it a shot. I loved Ed and I like Tom Cavanaugh.
And yes, Julie Bowen is super hot. That's probably why I liked Happy Gilmore. I want to take her ice skating.
cthomer5000
01-17-2006, 01:18 PM
The show looks OK enough to me, but I can't help but think the title alone will help sink it. I don't know what they were thinking.
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 01:19 PM
I'm planning to give it a shot. I loved Ed and I like Tom Cavanaugh.
And yes, Julie Bowen is super hot. That's probably why I liked Happy Gilmore. I want to take her ice skating.
that movie takes me to my happy place.
FrogMan
01-17-2006, 01:30 PM
And yes, Julie Bowen is super hot. That's probably why I liked Happy Gilmore. I want to take her ice skating.
funny you say that, I was gonna comment about Happy Gilmore. The Julie Bowen of Ed didn't do much for me. The Julie Bowen of Happy Gilmore on the other hand, yowza!
FM
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 01:31 PM
funny you say that, I was gonna comment about Happy Gilmore. The Julie Bowen of Ed didn't do much for me. The Julie Bowen of Happy Gilmore on the other hand, yowza!
FM
She's definately her hottest in happy gilmore but still hot on Ed.
saldana
01-17-2006, 01:44 PM
I'm stuffing the ballot box.
the comments i could make regarding the post are just way to easy and way to obvious...i would definitely be voting hot.
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 01:46 PM
the comments i could make regarding the post are just way to easy and way to obvious...i would definitely be voting hot.
I'll really get behind stuffing the ballet box.
Critical Acclaim = Cancelled in 2 weeks
digamma
01-17-2006, 01:51 PM
Critical Acclaim = Cancelled in 2 weeks
So true, unfortunately.
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 01:51 PM
This will be a race between Love Monkey and Courting Alex as to who stays on longer.
Ksyrup
01-17-2006, 01:52 PM
This will be a race between Love Monkey and Courting Alex as to who stays on longer.
Don't forget Emily's Reasons Why Not to Watch This Show.
rkmsuf
01-17-2006, 01:54 PM
Don't forget Emily's Reasons Why Not to Watch This Show.
They've got the concepts all wrong.
Love Monkey should be with Jenna Elfman in various states of undress. Courting Alex should be some other hot chick trying to pick up Ed in various states of undress.
Emily's Reasons Not To Watch This Show should be 30 minutes of Carrot Top.
Desnudo
01-17-2006, 01:56 PM
Carrot Top would win that ratings battle.
BuffaloHuskey
01-17-2006, 02:02 PM
The kid (Teddy Geiger) that Ed is trying to sign to his independent record label on this show, is from Rochester so I will have to give it a watch and take it from there.
My Tuesday show will and always will be "House" on Fox. The one-liners in that show are unbelievable. It is a completely underrated show with some decent female talents
DanGarion
01-17-2006, 02:13 PM
I'm going to record this, I was a huge fan of Ed and a huge fan of High Fidelity.
molson
01-17-2006, 02:20 PM
The title is absolutely going to kill it. People (especially men) aren't going to admit to other people that they watch something called "Love Monkey". There'll be no good word of mouth because people won't hear anything expect that title.
Chas in Cinti
01-17-2006, 02:52 PM
The kid (Teddy Geiger) that Ed is trying to sign to his independent record label on this show, is from Rochester so I will have to give it a watch and take it from there.
My Tuesday show will and always will be "House" on Fox. The one-liners in that show are unbelievable. It is a completely underrated show with some decent female talents
I think Love Monkey is on at 10, which wont interfere with House (I have both set for TIVO I believe...
-Chas
Raven
01-17-2006, 04:03 PM
I'll tivo it. What the hell.
BuffaloHuskey
01-17-2006, 04:25 PM
I think Love Monkey is on at 10, which wont interfere with House (I have both set for TIVO I believe...
Good point, I will have to record on the DVR. With 24, Sopranos, House (soon enough) and college hoops my TV schedule is starting to get maxed out. I am good for about an hour of TV per night.
Honolulu_Blue
01-17-2006, 04:37 PM
My Tuesday show will and always will be "House" on Fox. The one-liners in that show are unbelievable. It is a completely underrated show with some decent female talents
House is a great show. Formulaic as all get out, but still very entertaining. I don't think it's "completely underrated". Hugh Laurie just won a Golden Globe (justly deserved) and the show is very well received and quite popular. I think it's a properly rated show. While I am not a fan of Cameron, I likes me some Cuddy and you can never go wrong with Sela Ward.
I'll give this "Love Monkey" a shot for you and your mate, Digamma. The previews looked all right enough. I'll also be keeping a careful eye on all sports related references. A very careful eye... ;)
BuffaloHuskey
01-17-2006, 04:42 PM
I guess my only basis for saying that House is underrated is that no one I know watches it. This really surprises me because the wittiness of the show is right inline with most of my friends' sense of humor.
dawgfan
01-17-2006, 04:43 PM
an unfiltered googling shows that this Judy Greer isn't against showing some skin. Nicely put together, IMHO.
Maybe she's not everyone's type, but I think she's damned attractive...
digamma
01-17-2006, 04:51 PM
I'll give this "Love Monkey" a shot for you and your mate, Digamma. The previews looked all right enough. I'll also be keeping a careful eye on all sports related references. A very careful eye... ;) Look for the Boomer Esiason episode.
One of the others is very brief. There's a clip of a basketball game and a reference to the game. I guess there are only a few outlets for obtaining clips of games for things like this, so they were limited in which game they could get. Let's just say the initial choices weren't very good for fitting into the script.
Karlifornia
01-17-2006, 05:06 PM
If I'm around when this is on, I'll give it a chance, but only because of you! :)
Honolulu_Blue
01-17-2006, 06:47 PM
I guess my only basis for saying that House is underrated is that no one I know watches it. This really surprises me because the wittiness of the show is right inline with most of my friends' sense of humor.
That's funny you mention that, because I don't know anyone (either than me and Lady H_B) that watch it either. Apparently a lot of people do... just don't know any of them.
Glengoyne
01-17-2006, 06:52 PM
I'm stuffing the ballot box.Kleenex?
I knew I would have a hard time not thinking Ed when I watched this, but then the pilot had the loss of job / breakup on the same day happen again.
If he buys a bowling alley next, I'm done.
LoneStarGirl
01-17-2006, 09:31 PM
This is very Jerry Mcguire-ish.
BrianD
01-17-2006, 10:01 PM
The show looks like it was just trying to set itself up before it eventually hits its stride, but I think it has potential.
dunkem
01-18-2006, 04:32 AM
I agree with Brian... I'm thinking the second episode is where this show might hit its stride with the female co-worker and new job. I loved Ed and I wanted to like this first episode, but unfortunately the whole setup in the first episode was .... boring. If it weren't for the last five minutes, I don't think I'd continue watching it. I think Tom narrating in the beginning and throughout the episode might've made viewers lose interest. There's potential I guess with the new job and all, but not the best pilot. Dunno.. maybe I just had expectations since I liked Ed so much.
Toddzilla
01-18-2006, 07:05 AM
I'm stuffing the ballot box.
I'd rather be stuffing Julie Bowen. RAWR!
Butter
01-18-2006, 07:27 AM
Not bad. Not great... but I'll watch again.
Digamma, which person is your friend who is involved in the show? Were they in the credits?
I did notice that Nic Harcourt, music author and DJ was one of the co-producers, so that can't but help the show, IMO.
digamma
01-18-2006, 09:10 AM
Digamma, which person is your friend who is involved in the show? Were they in the credits?
He had a producer credit immediately following Cavanagh's.
digamma
01-18-2006, 10:35 AM
Critical Acclaim = Cancelled in 2 weeks
This appears to be the morning buzz.
Ksyrup
01-18-2006, 10:44 AM
It's amazing how little time shows get these days.
Butter
01-18-2006, 12:05 PM
(Early cancellation) appears to be the morning buzz.
It finished 3rd in its time slot, but I can't help but think it'll probably be given a bit more time.
I think the problem CBS is going to have with it is that it doesn't have any other shows even remotely like it to pair it with, so it's going to lose a lot of lead-in audience from almost anything else.
digamma
01-18-2006, 12:15 PM
It finished 3rd in its time slot, but I can't help but think it'll probably be given a bit more time.
I think the problem CBS is going to have with it is that it doesn't have any other shows even remotely like it to pair it with, so it's going to lose a lot of lead-in audience from almost anything else.
Right, but Fox doesn't have 10 PM programming.
You are absolutely correct about CBS not having a partner show for it.
The word from my buddy is that it "did not perform up to expectations."
rkmsuf
01-18-2006, 12:16 PM
Tom Cavanaugh... Not hot.
Butter
01-18-2006, 12:22 PM
The word from my buddy is that it "did not perform up to expectations."
Considering the amount of promo they gave this show during the NFL playoffs, I can understand the disappointment. Hopefully it will build an audience though, because I think the potential is there for a solid show.
timmae
01-18-2006, 12:28 PM
I'd agree Butter... esp. the last 10 minutes lured me to watch again next week. I do think they are setting up for bigger and better things... the amount of money that was spent on marketing warrants at least a half dozen shows (unlike the shows that get cancelled 2 weeks into the show). I was disappointed with the first half of the show... too many attempts at "cute" humor.
digamma
01-18-2006, 12:30 PM
I'd agree Butter... esp. the last 10 minutes lured me to watch again next week. I do think they are setting up for bigger and better things... the amount of money that was spent on marketing warrants at least a half dozen shows (unlike the shows that get cancelled 2 weeks into the show). I was disappointed with the first half of the show... too many attempts at "cute" humor.
Only eight episodes were ordered initially. All eight will likely air this spring. If it builds an audience, they could order more for next fall, but right now, that doesn't look likely. Of course, it is only one night--but the first is typically the best night from a ratings perspective.
Desnudo
01-18-2006, 12:34 PM
So the consensus is that it's worth checking out? Having to watch constant ads for it kind of turned me off.
rkmsuf
01-18-2006, 12:47 PM
"Vould you like to touch my monkey? Touch him! Love him!
Anyhow, the show is produced by one of my best friends (he jokingly gave me permission to call myself a consultant for the show, as he's called me several times during filming to ask me a sports related question that's come up (one of the character's is a sportscaster)).
So I watched this the other night on my DVR. I'm assuming the character you've been consulting on is the gay sports guy?
Ksyrup
01-23-2006, 07:40 AM
Is it true that Emily's Reasons Why Not to Watch This Show got canned after its first airing?
jeff061
01-23-2006, 07:42 AM
That would be nice, I must of missed the whole Jenna Elfman is a sitcom goddess time period, given how heavy they've been pushing that show.
Honolulu_Blue
01-23-2006, 07:46 AM
Is it true that Emily's Reasons Why Not to Watch This Show got canned after its first airing?
Yes. While it's technically on "hiatus", the show is done. They pulled the plug last week right after they filmed the 6th episode or so. It's possible some of the remaining episodes my be aired, but that is very unlikely.
jeff061
01-23-2006, 08:20 AM
Woops, wrong show, Elfman is the other one. Really, is there any difference?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/23/tv.bye.bye.emily.ap/index.html
digamma
01-23-2006, 07:39 PM
So I watched this the other night on my DVR. I'm assuming the character you've been consulting on is the gay sports guy?
Not really on his character, but a couple of peripheral issues that have come up.
Tomorrow night is the big night for them, and they should know their fate on Wednesday. If they hold the 3.2 they got last week, CBS will be very happy. The problem with last week's show was that viewership fell off every 15 minutes. The show needs to show some ability to hold an audience.
oliegirl
01-23-2006, 07:49 PM
Not really on his character, but a couple of peripheral issues that have come up.
Tomorrow night is the big night for them, and they should know their fate on Wednesday. If they hold the 3.2 they got last week, CBS will be very happy. The problem with last week's show was that viewership fell off every 15 minutes. The show needs to show some ability to hold an audience.
Do they have some measure for when it's being tivo'd? That is what we do, but if it will help I'll turn it on in the bedroom and record it to so I can watch it commercial free later :)
Crapshoot
01-24-2006, 09:36 PM
okay, the "Visions of Johanna " and "London Calling" references - good start.
hoopsguy
01-24-2006, 09:43 PM
Not to mention Starship.
Butter
01-25-2006, 07:16 AM
That whole Starship thing cracked me up. I enjoyed this episode more than the first. Although so far the sportscaster guy has barely been on the show.
digamma
01-25-2006, 09:12 AM
I liked the second episode better as well.
For some reason, I'm now web sensed from this site at work, so I won't be able to post anything I learn from my buddy until later tonight.
After seeing the second episode, i'm really going to like this show. However, I have a bad feeling that this show will have the same experience as Ed, with not so great ratings, a constantly changing time slot, a small group of very loyal fans, and the constant threat of cancellation. I think best case is that it makes it for three seasons.
I just don't think that this is the kind of show that will be popular right now, as it isn't a reality show and isn't a crime investigation / court room / hospital drama show.
It is too bad we don't have more "different" types of drama shows on TV, but I guess the networks have to do what makes money.
rkmsuf
01-25-2006, 09:28 AM
naked jello wrestling featuring Julie Bowen and Jenna Elfman is a ratings winner.
Butter
01-25-2006, 11:34 AM
1st episode gets a 5.9/9 rating, while the 2nd gets a 5.1/9. I take that as a bad sign.
Another thing that is going to hurt this show while it tries to establish itself - it isn't going to be on next week because of the state of the union address. They really needed an episode that people would talk about, because people might forget about this show.
JasonC23
01-25-2006, 01:06 PM
I TiVo'd the first 2 episodes and will watch them this weekend.
Radii
01-26-2006, 09:14 PM
oliegirl and I just caught up on this, the second episode was much, much better than the first one. I can't wait for the next one.
digamma
01-27-2006, 09:08 AM
It looks like CBS is going to air the full eight episode order and make a decision at the end of the season.
Butter
01-27-2006, 09:15 AM
It looks like CBS is going to air the full eight episode order and make a decision at the end of the season.
That must mean they like the show and see its potential. Hopefully it'll make some strides ratings-wise over the coming weeks. Although for me, they can't get rid of that Wayne kid and the needless star cameos fast enough. I can see trying to get some names in the show to draw viewers, but it seems like the stars in episode #2 just exist to have them say hi, and then exit stage right. At least have them act or something... do something interesting with them.
BrianD
01-27-2006, 09:38 AM
It looks like CBS is going to air the full eight episode order and make a decision at the end of the season.
I'm happy to see the network give the show a chance before making a decision. This really seems like the kind of show that won't be an instant hit, but will probably develop a following. I wish more shows were given this chance.
RPI-Fan
01-27-2006, 05:51 PM
"get rid of that Wayne kid"
That's pretty much THE storyline in the show right now???????????????????
DanGarion
01-27-2006, 06:02 PM
"get rid of that Wayne kid"
That's pretty much THE storyline in the show right now???????????????????
Huh?
Easy Mac
01-27-2006, 11:10 PM
I don't know when this show is on. I just torrented them. I know a lot of people who have Tivo'd the show, but I don't think those are included in the official counts.
Butter
01-30-2006, 07:22 AM
"get rid of that Wayne kid"
That's pretty much THE storyline in the show right now???????????????????
If I'm not mistaken, he's not going to be around much in the next few shows... I was under the impression that he was only going to be on the first couple of episodes, thanks to Sony.
Just a reminder to everyone that a new episode is on tonight at 10.
wade moore
02-07-2006, 02:04 PM
I have this on Tivo, but it's behind something else (can't remember what right now) so I've only gotten one episode (which I liked a LOT and imagine i'll be using his little catch phrase "song title" down the road) and getting the one tonight...
oliegirl
02-07-2006, 02:07 PM
Can't wait for tonights episode....
I was actually going to bump this thread today - I heard a great song on the radio called "For you I will", it's by the guy who plays Wayne on the show...can't remember his name for the life of me right now. But on tonights show they are going to be shooting a mock video for this single...at least that is what the DJ said. The guy is really talented - I hope he has an actual album coming out.
BuffaloHuskey
02-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Wayne's real name is Teddy Geiger
Only a decent episode, my least favorite of the three so far. I hope that he will be dealing with a new artist soon, as Wayne is getting a little old since his character isn't that great.
LoneStarGirl
02-08-2006, 12:14 PM
I really enjoy the show. Except Tom looks terrible in hats, they should nix that from the next couple of episodes.
primelord
02-08-2006, 01:20 PM
I thought last night's episode was pretty good. Although it may just be the Stevie Ray at the beginning and end clouding my judgement. I heart Stevie Ray. :)
digamma
02-08-2006, 03:19 PM
Just got this e-mail from my buddy:
Love Monkey = Cancelled.
Very sad day here. Thank you for all your support. On to the next show...
Thanks for the love here on FOFC.
Crap - while I didn't love the latest episode, thought the show was good overall. Oh well.
oliegirl
02-08-2006, 08:29 PM
Man - I am bummed!!!!! Will they be showing any new episodes or was last nights the final one?
Tasan
02-08-2006, 08:36 PM
Aw crap. I got to see this last night and really thought it was refreshing and something different maybe. Figures, most stuff I like these days doesn't stick around.
Dr. Sak
02-08-2006, 08:54 PM
This sucks, I was just getting into the show.
digamma
02-08-2006, 10:33 PM
Episodes will air through February 21.
They will make all eight episodes, because Sony might try to do something else with it.
Swaggs
02-08-2006, 10:49 PM
That's too bad. I liked this show. This might not be a popular opinion and I never watched Ed, but to me, I love the concept, supporting players, and storylines (so far), but the lead actor just doesn't do it for me. He seems a little overly witty to me (kind of like Mike Lupica) and his appearance makes him look like a fool half of the time (wearing 'do rags is a big one)--and not in an endearing way.
My wife is going to be super pissed. This is the fourth hour-long, evening drama that she has began watching from the beginning that has been cancelled in its first few episodes (North Shore, Eyes, Reunion, and now this).
lighthousekeeper
02-09-2006, 12:14 AM
:(
That sucks - there was something about that show I really liked. But at the same time it's not altogether surprising - offbeat shows like that just don't seem to stick around too long.
And I was all ready for Wayne to become the next Davey Jones.
Edit Dola - Completely agreed on the do-rag. Could an unfortunate fashion faux pas cause so much damage?
rkmsuf
02-09-2006, 08:32 AM
I kept telling them to bring in Julie Bowen.
Crapshoot
02-09-2006, 08:58 AM
Man, what is it with the networks - they don't give a show any time to develop. Sucks.
Dr. Sak
02-11-2006, 10:54 AM
I just turned on MTV Hits and I heard the song that Wayne did on Love Monkey. It was the song that he did for the music video but a totally different one than what was shown on the show. I guess he is a real artist, the line at the end said his name was Teddy Geiger.
Well, from the sounds of this article and others, it has been completely shelved, with no plans on burning the remaining episodes. Reruns of NCIS and CSI will air in that time slot until the Amazing Race comes back on at the end of this month.
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18331,00.html
digamma
02-13-2006, 09:14 AM
Well, from the sounds of this article and others, it has been completely shelved, with no plans on burning the remaining episodes. Reruns of NCIS and CSI will air in that time slot until the Amazing Race comes back on at the end of this month.
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18331,00.html That quote is from a CBS network person. Sony is the studio involved. They (Sony) are making the final episodes (and they believe they have some options on what to do with those). They are scheduled to film through March 5.
Gotcha, well, hopefully it shows up somewhere else.
AgustusM
02-13-2006, 11:28 AM
Weak!
Who the hell runs these networks? You advertise the hell out of a show and then pull it after 3 episodes – why would anyone even get interested in a new show these days if the networks aren’t going to give them even half a chance.
Here comes the Giants big prospect up for his first big league at bat - first pitch strike on the outside corner, second pitch ball a little low, wait we have a stop in the play the GM is on the field - oh their going to release the kid - GM felt as though he should have hit a grand slam with at least one of those pitches, who cares if no one was on base.
rkmsuf
02-13-2006, 11:30 AM
Is it rare for shows to catch on after a weak start or is it because they aren't given a chance to catch on? It's the chicken and the egg debate.
I say when you market the crap out of the thing and viewship is weak you are toast so you might as well pull it. It ain't the old days when there were only a handful of shows on to choose from.
jonesz
02-13-2006, 03:19 PM
I agree that it might be a little too soon and they probably shouldn't have pulled it until they gave it it's full run but....it really wasn't that good of a show IMO. I could never see it gaining on word of mouth, which is what they were probably seeing as well. I can honestly say I won't miss this one too much. I have to agree that the general trend is a little disturbing of networks yanking shows without giving them a fighting chance in hell. A couple examples that I remember are Freaks and Geeks (I don't think they showed it on consecutive weeks and/or on the same night during it's entire run) and American Dreams (good show for Sunday night audience but another one they promoted to death and couldn't get to have any momentum). At least I can count on another stellar episode of Fear Factor or CSI:Milwaukee :rolleyes:
rkmsuf
02-13-2006, 03:21 PM
Put John Stamos as the love monkey and that's a winner.
Rasmuth
02-13-2006, 03:37 PM
I just turned on MTV Hits and I heard the song that Wayne did on Love Monkey. It was the song that he did for the music video but a totally different one than what was shown on the show. I guess he is a real artist, the line at the end said his name was Teddy Geiger.
yea....Teddy Geiger is a Rochester, NY local kid...been alot of buzz around here for him for quite awhile now and there was alot of hope for the show...
Dr. Sak
02-13-2006, 03:56 PM
I agree that it might be a little too soon and they probably shouldn't have pulled it until they gave it it's full run but....it really wasn't that good of a show IMO. I could never see it gaining on word of mouth, which is what they were probably seeing as well. I can honestly say I won't miss this one too much. I have to agree that the general trend is a little disturbing of networks yanking shows without giving them a fighting chance in hell. A couple examples that I remember are Freaks and Geeks (I don't think they showed it on consecutive weeks and/or on the same night during it's entire run) and American Dreams (good show for Sunday night audience but another one they promoted to death and couldn't get to have any momentum). At least I can count on another stellar episode of Fear Factor or CSI:Milwaukee :rolleyes:
I actually thought they didnt promote American Dreams enough. That is a show I really miss and the way that NBC left it hanging was just horrible.
primelord
02-13-2006, 04:46 PM
American Dreams (good show for Sunday night audience but another one they promoted to death and couldn't get to have any momentum). Well American Dreams was on for like 3 seasons. It's hard to say they didn't give that one a fighting chance.
rexallllsc
02-13-2006, 04:48 PM
The show was good, but I think the name killed it and a lot of people didn't give it a chance solely based on that.
JonInMiddleGA
03-29-2006, 08:44 PM
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060330/D8GLJNPO5.html
LOS ANGELES (AP) - The short-lived CBS series "Love Monkey" has found new life on VH1. At least temporarily.
The cable channel will air all eight hourlong episodes of the show beginning next month, a network spokeswoman said Wednesday.
No new episodes have been ordered.
The dramatic comedy, which looks at life and love through the eyes of a cynical, single, 30-something music scout, premiered on CBS in January. The network ordered eight episodes, but the series was scrapped after three.
VH1 will air the three previously seen shows back-to-back on April 11, starting at 7 p.m. EDT. The remaining five installments will air weekly on Tuesdays at 9 p.m. beginning April 18.
"Love Monkey," based on Kyle Smith's 2004 book of the same name, stars Tom Cavanagh as protagonist Tom Farrell. Jason Priestly, Larenz Tate and Christopher Wiehl also star.
digamma
03-29-2006, 10:36 PM
I meant to post this news last night, but forgot.
The goal is that it might be picked up by the new CW next fall, but they aren't sure how realistic that is.
larrymcg421
03-30-2006, 12:18 AM
I can't imagine the CW picking it up. They are already overloaded shows since they're combining networks and Love Monkey's ratings don't justify it. I thought it was a really promising show, but people just weren't interested in it.
rkmsuf
03-30-2006, 07:36 AM
didn't ed already get another gig?
digamma
03-30-2006, 09:12 AM
I can't imagine the CW picking it up. They are already overloaded shows since they're combining networks and Love Monkey's ratings don't justify it. I thought it was a really promising show, but people just weren't interested in it.
But the C half of the CW has already sunk a bunch of money into LM, so there is a bit of a vested interest. Not saying it will happen, I'm just saying that's what the goal is.
larrymcg421
03-31-2006, 02:01 AM
didn't ed already get another gig?
Tom Cavanaugh does have a pilot in the works, but his casting is "secondary" to Love Monkey meaning if Love Monkey gets picked up he will be recast for the pilot (assuming that gets picked up, too.) Something similar happened last year when John Stamos was gonna be a regular on ER this season, but then his show Jake in Progress surprisingly got renewed.
larrymcg421
03-31-2006, 02:04 AM
But the C half of the CW has already sunk a bunch of money into LM, so there is a bit of a vested interest. Not saying it will happen, I'm just saying that's what the goal is.
Yeah, but sinking even more money into it seems like a bad idea (from a pure business standpoint). I just don't see how it can succeed, especially with the more limited affiliates that CW brings to the table as opposed to CBS. I certainly hope I'm completely wrong and they give it a go.
Brillig
04-11-2006, 12:35 PM
Reminder, tonight's the night for the rebroadcast of the first three episodes.
oliegirl
04-11-2006, 01:32 PM
Reminder, tonight's the night for the rebroadcast of the first three episodes.
Thanks! Going to TiVo season pass this...maybe we can figure out how to transfer shows from TiVo to VCR so we can save it, I wouldn't mind having this around to watch every now and then...I really liked the show.
digamma
04-11-2006, 02:09 PM
Musical acts to be featured in the remaining episodes this season:
Aimee Mann (performing and acting);
Keith Urban (performing);
She Wants Revenge (performing);
John Mellencamp (performing and acting);
Natasha Bedingfield (performing);
Mya (performing and acting);
Joshua Bell (performing and acting) and
Dr. John (performing and acting).
oliegirl
04-11-2006, 03:10 PM
Musical acts to be featured in the remaining episodes this season:
Aimee Mann (performing and acting);
Keith Urban (performing);
She Wants Revenge (performing);
John Mellencamp (performing and acting);
Natasha Bedingfield (performing);
Mya (performing and acting);
Joshua Bell (performing and acting) and
Dr. John (performing and acting).
Mmmmm - Keith Urban is hot, even if he does have crappy taste in women...
Easy Mac
04-11-2006, 05:25 PM
Mmmmm - Keith Urban is hot, even if he does have crappy taste in women...
I think his publicist has crappy taste in women, since we all know he is gay.
oliegirl
04-11-2006, 07:22 PM
I think his publicist has crappy taste in women, since we all know he is gay.
No, you are thinking of Tom Cruise, he was married to Nicole first...now she has graduated to Keith Urban, who I am sure is totally and blissfully heterosexual :)
Glengoyne
04-11-2006, 07:22 PM
Reminder, tonight's the night for the rebroadcast of the first three episodes.
Rebroadcast where? Which network?
What the Heck is CW?
oliegirl
04-11-2006, 07:25 PM
Rebroadcast where? Which network?
What the Heck is CW?
It's being rebroadcast on VH-1, at 7, 8 and 9 pm...the last episodes will be aired sometime in the next week or two (I think).
The CW is the new network being developed by merging the WB and UPN (I think - don't quote me on the UPN thing).
digamma
04-11-2006, 07:26 PM
Rebroadcast where? Which network?
What the Heck is CW?
Tonight on VH1 they are broadcasting the three episodes that previously aired on CBS.
Beginning next week they will air the previously unaired episodes.
The CW is the combo of the WB and UPN which will start airing shows this fall.
oliegirl
04-11-2006, 07:30 PM
Tonight on VH1 they are broadcasting the three episodes that previously aired on CBS.
Beginning next week they will air the previously unaired episodes.
The CW is the combo of the WB and UPN which will start airing shows this fall.
Man, even in my Mango/Vodka/OJ drink thingy and pain induced haze I still managed to get the facts right...I rock! :)
JonInMiddleGA
04-12-2006, 12:21 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1528423/20060411/geiger__teddy.jhtml?headlines=true
Ran across this story on Teddy Geiger a while ago, figured I'd drop the link in here for anyone who was interested.
Swaggs
05-22-2006, 12:19 AM
Bump.
Watched the "last" episode, from this week, on Tivo today. Both my wife and I have enjoyed the series, although I still contend that his choice of headwear often makes him look like a dumbass. I am pretty sure this was the final episode that they have filmed (and by the way, Natasha Bedingfield was smoking hot).
Any word on whether or not this show has any chance to be picked up or have they definitely pulled the plug?
IwasHere
05-22-2006, 12:43 AM
I thought that show was canceled by CBS after only 3 episodes.
BTW check out FX's It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I am so amazed that this show is comming back for another season.
digamma
05-22-2006, 09:18 AM
Bump.
Watched the "last" episode, from this week, on Tivo today. Both my wife and I have enjoyed the series, although I still contend that his choice of headwear often makes him look like a dumbass. I am pretty sure this was the final episode that they have filmed (and by the way, Natasha Bedingfield was smoking hot).
Any word on whether or not this show has any chance to be picked up or have they definitely pulled the plug?
Plug pulled.
stevew
05-22-2006, 09:20 AM
Sucks that potentially solid shows get pulled so quickly. Oh well, maybe next time out will be a hit.
Swaggs
05-22-2006, 10:36 AM
Plug pulled.
That's a shame. I was beginning to really like it.
I wonder if it it ran into problems with viewers because there were too many main characters to follow.
wade moore
05-22-2006, 10:49 AM
That's a shame. I was beginning to really like it.
I wonder if it it ran into problems with viewers because there were too many main characters to follow.
Any time a show lasts 2 or 3 episodes I always assume that the quality of the show was only a MINOR factor... there's no way a viewing audience judged them that quickly I would think... has more to do with timeslot, what was before and after it, etc...
I'm amazed that this show failed after 3 episodes yet some others have multiple seasons, but whatever ;)...
IwasHere
05-22-2006, 11:36 AM
Any time a show lasts 2 or 3 episodes I always assume that the quality of the show was only a MINOR factor... there's no way a viewing audience judged them that quickly I would think... has more to do with timeslot, what was before and after it, etc...
I'm amazed that this show failed after 3 episodes yet some others have multiple seasons, but whatever ;)...
You would be wrong in this case. Love Monkey's time slot never changed, but it lost over a million viewers with each airing. If the people who tuned in the first time it was aired would have continued to watch the show it would probably still be on.
They would have been looking at John McEnroe numbers if the show continued. Can you add to Zero John, becuase that is what your talk show's Neilsen numbers were.:)
Swaggs
05-22-2006, 11:50 AM
Has anyone actually read the book? Is it worth getting?
wade moore
05-22-2006, 11:58 AM
You would be wrong in this case. Love Monkey's time slot never changed, but it lost over a million viewers with each airing. If the people who tuned in the first time it was aired would have continued to watch the show it would probably still be on.
They would have been looking at John McEnroe numbers if the show continued. Can you add to Zero John, becuase that is what your talk show's Neilsen numbers were.:)
Fair point, didn't know those detailed numbers.
kcchief19
05-22-2006, 03:39 PM
You would be wrong in this case. Love Monkey's time slot never changed, but it lost over a million viewers with each airing. If the people who tuned in the first time it was aired would have continued to watch the show it would probably still be on.
No doubt the decline in viewers for each each of the three episodes was the reason CBS axed it, but there were absolutely mitigating factors that hurt the show. First off, it was on CBS -- it doesn't fit anywhere on the CBS schedule. It might have fit somewhat with the Monday comedies, but no way did it fit with lead-in NCIS. Second, it was up against American Idol. 'Nuff said right there.
This was also the kind of show that was going to need to find an audience, and that's clearly not an option for networks these days. I know it gets old, but if network TV operated in the '80s like it does today, Cheers wouldn't have made it out of its first season and Seinfeld would have been cancelled after the pilot aired.
I was hoping that the try out on VH1 might allow the show to find a niche on cable. The interesting thing on its CBS airings is that while it was tanking in the overall ratings, it's demos were not bad. As we've seen, cable is quickly becoming home to some outstanding shows that have failed in network tryouts -- Monk, Battlestar Galactica -- and USA, Sci-Fi and FX have some outstanding shows right now. You can make good money on cable drawing 4 million viewers, but not on the networks.
I don't think there is a place on network TV for a show like Love Monkey right now. The pendulum will swing -- wasn't that long ago that everyone though the network drama was dead, now there are more drams than comedies. I think NBC would have been a better it, but NBC is having enough trouble with quirky shows. My Name is Earl, The Office and Scrubs are great shows, but the ratings are not Must See TV.
digamma
05-22-2006, 03:56 PM
It was moved to the 10 PM time slot to avoid being directly up against Idol, but the lack of a paired show/lead in definitely hurt. This move was made prior to the pilot airing.
They were actually somewhat pleased with their VH1 ratings, given VH1 did absolutely no publicity for LM.
For my buddy, it's on to the next thing.
Easy Mac
05-22-2006, 04:32 PM
After the first episode, I thought the quality fell off completely. I watched the second episode but thought it was pretty bad. I stopped watching the third after 20 minutes, it was just that bad. It's a shame, because I thought the first episode showed a lot of promise. I have the rest on my computer. I'm sure I'll finish it off over the summer just to see if it was worthwhile. I'm just saddened Fox picked up the Loop but not Free Ride. Free Ride was at least funny at times and seemed to have a chance to pick up some steam if the characters were tweaked a little.
oliegirl
05-22-2006, 06:37 PM
I really enjoyed the show and was bummed when we watched the last episode yesterday on TiVo...when he gets to the hospital and sees his sisters/friends baby, then Bran wakes up and they have the look and the smile...I'd love to know where the show was going to go had it been given a chance.
Hey digamma, can you ask your friend if there is any chance that these episodes will come out on DVD? I missed the last few episodes, and would rather wait for DVD if possible rather than trying to find them online and then watch them on my computer.
digamma
07-31-2006, 10:25 AM
I'll check, but I think the chances are slim to none. Some of the music licenses were only good for initial television distribution (with the idea that they would renegotiate other mediums if the show was a success). I'm fairly positive they've made no effort, and will make no effort to renegotiate now.
I thought about bumping this thread a month or so ago. We went with my buddy to a Teddy Geiger show. Met him after his performance. Really talented for a 17 year old and really down to earth, and very funny. Hopefully, that won't change.
Dr. Sak
07-01-2009, 07:59 PM
For those who liked this show...if you have Universal HD, they are going to be playing all the episodes starting tonight.
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