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scooper
01-18-2006, 01:03 PM
Jim Haslett's the rumor going around. Ouch.

rkmsuf
01-18-2006, 01:04 PM
never a big fan of his

DeToxRox
01-18-2006, 01:05 PM
No one locally wants Haslett in Detroit.

Shows this morning had New Orleans Media on discussing how poorly the team got under him.

If he does indeed become Lions coach, expect an unbelivable backlash.

gottimd
01-18-2006, 01:07 PM
What happened to the talks with Russ Grimm?

rkmsuf
01-18-2006, 01:09 PM
What happened to the talks with Russ Grimm?

He showed up with that stupid pig nose on and talks stalled.

albionmoonlight
01-18-2006, 01:09 PM
Do you sometimes get the feeling that the whole Matt Millen thing really is a joke? Like the Ford family was sitting around one night a few years ago, and one of them said, "Hey, let's not fire him and just see how long we can keep this going?"

albionmoonlight
01-18-2006, 01:09 PM
He showed up with that stupid pig nose on and talks stalled.
LOL

gottimd
01-18-2006, 01:10 PM
Do you sometimes get the feeling that the whole Matt Millen thing really is a joke? Like the Ford family was sitting around one night a few years ago, and one of them said, "Hey, let's not fire him and just see how long we can keep this going?"
Was it a $1 bet, like with Billy Valentine?

Honolulu_Blue
01-18-2006, 01:11 PM
What happened to the talks with Russ Grimm?
Apparently Russ Grimm is off the table. The word is that Lions didn't feel like Grimm was ready to make the leap from offensive line coach to head coach. Given everything that I have read, I am not too surprised. Apparently Grimm isn't all that organized and many believed he is not ready to be a head coach in the NFL.

The race is now down to Haslett and Rod Marinelli - the Tampa Bay Bucs d-line coach, with Haslett having the inside track.

DeToxRox
01-18-2006, 01:12 PM
What happened to the talks with Russ Grimm?

Nothing can happen till the Steelers are eliminated ... Thus it's hard to risk giving him the job and then he decides weeks later he doesn't want it, and all the other candidates we like are gone.

It seems to be between Haslett, Grimm and Marinelli.

Honolulu_Blue
01-18-2006, 01:20 PM
No one locally wants Haslett in Detroit.

Shows this morning had New Orleans Media on discussing how poorly the team got under him.

If he does indeed become Lions coach, expect an unbelivable backlash.
Yeah, well, almost everyone locally was doing back flips when the Lions hired Mariucci. Remember those "Got Mooch?" shirts.

I wouldn't be thrilled with Haslett, but then again I can't think of any candidate out there that I would have been thrilled with. Al Saunders was kind of interesting given how good the Chiefs' ofense has been, but he didn't seem to get any consideration from the Lions. Singeltary would have been interesting too, but he lacks NFL coaching experience. The things I read about Grimm scared me off him. Mo Carthon... eh. There is just no head coaching candidate that the Lions brought in (or even those they didn't) that really seemed like a homerun.

People weren't thrilled with Belichick after his stint with Cleveland. Who knows... maybe Haslett learned some things in New Orleans. Maybe they could bring him in as the head coach and Marinelli as the d-coordinator.

dixieflatline
01-18-2006, 01:29 PM
Switching teams what is up with the Bills? Dick Juron and Mike Sherman as their final two? I haven't seen one shread of evidence that either of these guys has any chance of turning around a team.

Raiders Army
01-18-2006, 01:32 PM
I'm surprised Dick Le Beau isn't mentioned as a head coach candidate. He was hamstrung by the Bengals ownership during his coaching years and he's done some really good things with Pittsburgh's defense. Maybe everyone is waiting for the Steelers to be done with their season for his name to surface.

DeToxRox
01-18-2006, 01:32 PM
Yeah, well, almost everyone locally was doing back flips when the Lions hired Mariucci. Remember those "Got Mooch?" shirts.

I wouldn't be thrilled with Haslett, but then again I can't think of any candidate out there that I would have been thrilled with. Al Saunders was kind of interesting given how good the Chiefs' ofense has been, but he didn't seem to get any consideration from the Lions. Singeltary would have been interesting too, but he lacks NFL coaching experience. The things I read about Grimm scared me off him. Mo Carthon... eh. There is just no head coaching candidate that the Lions brought in (or even those they didn't) that really seemed like a homerun.

People weren't thrilled with Belichick after his stint with Cleveland. Who knows... maybe Haslett learned some things in New Orleans. Maybe they could bring him in as the head coach and Marinelli as the d-coordinator.


Yeah but Belicheck didn't come right back the next season with a new team. The fact that Haslett has let guys like Bulger and Delhomme go makes me question is talent judgement, and the fact is he is too much of a players coach, much like Mooch, to run this team.

I am shocked we haven't taken more interest in Tim Lewis, as he has always been the guy I wanted, but that ship has seemingly sailed.

Whatever the case maybe, it won't be fun with whomever they hire.

scooper
01-18-2006, 01:38 PM
I'm surprised Dick Le Beau isn't mentioned as a head coach candidate. He was hamstrung by the Bengals ownership during his coaching years and he's done some really good things with Pittsburgh's defense. Maybe everyone is waiting for the Steelers to be done with their season for his name to surface.
Dick's a great DC and a great guy as well. I realize he was hamstrung in Cincy, but he was also part of the problem. I just don't see him fitting as HC and I think he's actually happy to be a DC with a good program. He seems more at home with the X's and O's than with managing a team. Besides, the guy's a lot older than he looks. I'm curious as to how long he's going to coach. One thing's for certain, as a DC-he still has it.

Honolulu_Blue
01-18-2006, 01:47 PM
Dick's a great DC and a great guy as well. I realize he was hamstrung in Cincy, but he was also part of the problem. I just don't see him fitting as HC and I think he's actually happy to be a DC with a good program. He seems more at home with the X's and O's than with managing a team. Besides, the guy's a lot older than he looks. I'm curious as to how long he's going to coach. One thing's for certain, as a DC-he still has it.
Yeah, he's pretty old. Almost 70.

ice4277
01-18-2006, 02:19 PM
I think all the candidates available are pretty mediocre. I would have a tough time saying that Haslett would be any better/worse than any of the other guys mentioned.

Honolulu_Blue
01-18-2006, 02:28 PM
I think all the candidates available are pretty mediocre. I would have a tough time saying that Haslett would be any better/worse than any of the other guys mentioned.
I am in the same boat. None of these guys excite me at all, but I wont go nuts when the announcement is made whether it's Haslett, Grimm, or Marinelli. None of the other available candidates is all that thrilling either. Let's face it though, this is the Lions, so it probably doesn't matter who they choose. It will end badly.

Neuqua
01-18-2006, 05:57 PM
Marinelli it is.

Deattribution
01-18-2006, 06:01 PM
hah, I see 'the fans' voted Harrington 'Lions Offensive Player of the Year'

Desnudo
01-18-2006, 06:02 PM
hah, I see 'the fans' voted Harrington 'Lions Offensive Player of the Year'

There's two ways to read that.

Deattribution
01-18-2006, 06:07 PM
There's two ways to read that.

It's sorta like being named NFL's Best Loser.

Honolulu_Blue
01-18-2006, 06:25 PM
Well, all things considered, I am ok with this signing. Haslett had a taint to him and just didn't seem to be the right fit given the Lions' issues.

Well, welcome to Detroit, Rod Marinelli, may you succeed where all others have failed.

Deattribution
01-18-2006, 06:28 PM
Atleast Millen did go through a hiring process for a change, instead of just hiring his most availiable buddy.

I know it's a novel approach for him, but maybe it'll pay off.

Honolulu_Blue
01-18-2006, 06:31 PM
Atleast Millen did go through a hiring process for a change, instead of just hiring his most availiable buddy.

I know it's a novel approach for him, but maybe it'll pay off.
Agreed. This search for a head coach at least had the appearance of thought and thoroughness. Maybe it'll work out this time. I hope it does. Maybe Millen could just claim he was confused... Mariucci Marinelli... They sound very similar you know.

Deattribution
01-18-2006, 06:35 PM
Mariucci, Marinelli, Must Have Receiver at Pick #9, all very similar :)

miami_fan
01-19-2006, 10:10 AM
"Football is a show-me game. I'm tired of talking," Marinelli said. "You start putting on pads and do the work. Let our film talk for us."

"I'm not interested in Pro Bowl players, I'm interested in world champions," Marinelli said.

"I want to be physical, that's my style," Marinelli said. "I want to run the ball with power, defend with power."


Sounds like a good start for me. Should be an interesting mini-camp for the Lions

rkmsuf
01-19-2006, 10:11 AM
"Football is a show-me game. I'm tired of talking," Marinelli said. "You start putting on pads and do the work. Let our film talk for us."

"I'm not interested in Pro Bowl players, I'm interested in world champions," Marinelli said.

"I want to be physical, that's my style," Marinelli said. "I want to run the ball with power, defend with power."


Sounds like a good start for me. Should be an interesting mini-camp for the Lions


I don't know "To be the best you have to beat the best" is pretty good.

clintl
01-19-2006, 08:48 PM
"Football is a show-me game. I'm tired of talking," Marinelli said. "You start putting on pads and do the work. Let our film talk for us."

"I'm not interested in Pro Bowl players, I'm interested in world champions," Marinelli said.

"I want to be physical, that's my style," Marinelli said. "I want to run the ball with power, defend with power."


Sounds like a good start for me. Should be an interesting mini-camp for the Lions

Actually, it sounds a lot like Bill Russell when the Sacramento Kings hired him, and Russell proceeded to run the Kings pretty much like Matt Millen has run the Lions.

JeffNights
01-19-2006, 09:03 PM
Anybody else find it amusingly curious that Millen has hired:

Mornhinweg
Mariucci
Marinelli

I can see a common denominator in there...

Logan
01-19-2006, 09:25 PM
Anybody else find it amusingly curious that Millen has hired:

Mornhinweg
Mariucci
Marinelli

I can see a common denominator in there...

Up next...Pete Morelli?

gi
01-20-2006, 07:35 AM
Key to his success will be the offensive coordinator selection. This position will have a lot of authority in running the offensive since he is from the defensive side. It shall be an interesting off-season as usual with the Lions. At least I can look forward to the Pistons and Wings "showing me" what winning is.

Ksyrup
01-20-2006, 08:23 AM
Switching teams what is up with the Bills? Dick Juron and Mike Sherman as their final two? I haven't seen one shread of evidence that either of these guys has any chance of turning around a team.
And you can now add Haslett, apparently. Really...how do you sell any one of 3 guys who got canned last season as your new head coach? It's not like any of them are geniuses who wore out their welcome or something like that. At least they didn't fire anyone to get where they are, but still.

rkmsuf
01-20-2006, 08:24 AM
And you can now add Haslett, apparently. Really...how do you sell any one of 3 guys who got canned last season as your new head coach? It's not like any of them are geniuses who wore out their welcome or something like that. At least they didn't fire anyone to get where they are, but still.

I guess Haslett was a former Bill.

Who knows. Ralph Wilson has gone off the deep end anyway.

PackerFanatic
01-20-2006, 08:41 AM
I saw a clip of the interview he did last night on PTI. This guys kinda scares me...

albionmoonlight
01-20-2006, 09:03 AM
I will say two things about Haslett.

1.) The front office/ownership of the Saints is a joke. So, in some ways, one cannot hold him totally responsible for the Saints' results over the last few years. I think that he gets a little bit of a pass just because he had to deal with so much shit going on over his head.

2.) That said, from what I saw, he did not have enough discipline with his team, and he played favorites among the players. This led to pretty poor chemistry on the team in general, which was reflected in lots of stupid penalties and mental errors on the field (and the occasional game where it was clear that the team just gave up five minutes after kickoff).

I would not hire him.

Honolulu_Blue
01-20-2006, 09:31 AM
I saw a clip of the interview he did last night on PTI. This guys kinda scares me...
Coming from a Packers fan, I like this...

PackerFanatic
01-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Not scares me in the fact I think he is going to be a good coach...scares me in the fact that I am scared for my life, lol.

Honolulu_Blue
01-20-2006, 10:19 AM
Not scares me in the fact I think he is going to be a good coach...scares me in the fact that I am scared for my life, lol.
We win either way. ;)