Super Bowl in one WEEK. Seattle still overrated.

[astrosfan64]

Gentlemen:

You will be happy to know. I have taken that 50 dollars I had left over from the horrible loss I took in NFC Conference Title game and I've invested it in college basketball this past week. I've rebuilt my money to $525.00 dollars. Texas losing to Oklahoma last night helped me out real nice.

Anyway, I'm hoping to have close to 750 or more in my account by the time the Superbowl rolls around.

I've been off on Seattle so far, but I'm telling they will go down and go down hard.

I've looked at the last two Seattle games in replay a few times. It wasn't that Seattle was that good, it was simply that the other teams were that bad.

[Neuqua]

Give it up dude.

You make it all the way to the Super Bowl, you are a good team. Plain and simple.

[duckman]

I think the Steelers will win, but I still think the Seahawks are a very good team.

Now, you're just being a troll.

[miami_fan]

Hmmm....so who is currently the most overrated Super Bowl winning team in history? Not that I think that the Seahawks are going to win. I just want to have a reference point for comparision sake.

[ThunderingHERD]

I have taken that 50 dollars I had left over from the horrible loss I took in NFC Conference Title game and I've invested it in college basketball this past week. I've rebuilt my money to $525.00 dollars.


Sure you have. Sure you have.

[st.cronin]

Hmmm....so who is currently the most overrated Super Bowl winning team in history? Not that I think that the Seahawks are going to win. I just want to have a reference point for comparision sake.

1986 Chicago Bears. If Grogan had started, the Pats would have won.

[albionmoonlight]

Gentlemen:

You will be happy to know. I have taken that 50 dollars I had left over from the horrible loss I took in NFC Conference Title game and I've invested it in college basketball this past week. I've rebuilt my money to $525.00 dollars. Texas losing to Oklahoma last night helped me out real nice.

Anyway, I'm hoping to have close to 750 or more in my account by the time the Superbowl rolls around.

I've been off on Seattle so far, but I'm telling they will go down and go down hard.

I've looked at the last two Seattle games in replay a few times. It wasn't that Seattle was that good, it was simply that the other teams were that bad.
Based on your predictions of sporting events before they happen, I would think that you were a bad gambler.

Based on your self-reported winnings gambling, I would think that you were a good gambler.

[astrosfan64]

29 Jan 2006 13:19 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52979829
Straight 519 FG NC State Wolfpack -120 [94,85] 1/29/2006 1:35:00 PM
63/53 53 # 38854420
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 29-Jan-2006 : 53
29 Jan 2006 02:12 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52952141
2 Teaser BK 4 Points
515 FG Arkansas Razorbacks +8½ -110 [76,78] 1/29/2006 1:07:00 PM
518 FG Minnesota Golden Gophers +7 -110 [42,61] 1/29/2006 1:07:00 PM
100/100 100 # 38845501
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 29-Jan-2006 : 100
28 Jan 2006 21:52 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52930943
Straight 848 2H Oklahoma Sooners +3 EV [41,47] 1/28/2006 10:06:00 PM
15/15 15 # 38842863
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : 15
28 Jan 2006 21:51 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52930705
Straight 848 2H Oklahoma Sooners +3 EV [41,47] 1/28/2006 10:06:00 PM
13/13 13 # 38842853
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : 13
28 Jan 2006 20:21 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52921810
Straight 848 1H Oklahoma Sooners +2 -105 [31,35] 1/28/2006 9:07:00 PM
15/14 14 # 38840497
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : 14
28 Jan 2006 19:00 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52912762
Straight 799 2H Villanova Wildcats -3½ -110 [37,36] 1/28/2006 7:11:00 PM
12/11 -12 # 38837399
Straight 848 FG Oklahoma Sooners +4 -110 [72,82] 1/28/2006 9:07:00 PM
25/23 23 # 38837309
Straight 802 2H Texas A&M Aggies -9 -110 [39,40] 1/28/2006 7:10:00 PM
30/27 -30 # 38837040
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : -19
28 Jan 2006 14:48 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52887232
Straight 201 FG North PK -110 [31,14] 1/28/2006 4:15:00 PM
50/45 45 # 38828064
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : 45
28 Jan 2006 14:26 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52884678
Straight 848 FG Oklahoma Sooners +3½ -110 [72,82] 1/28/2006 9:07:00 PM
50/45 45 # 38827585
Straight 753 FG Wisconsin Badgers +3 -110 [76,85] 1/28/2006 2:35:00 PM
26/24 -26 # 38827570
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : 19
28 Jan 2006 10:27 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52863635
Straight 723 FG Marquette Golden Eagles +375 [71,77] 1/28/2006 12:05:00 PM
10/38 -10 # 38816995
Straight 723 FG Marquette Golden Eagles +9½ -110 [71,77] 1/28/2006 12:05:00 PM
40/36 36 # 38816992
2Parlay
722 FG Georgetown Hoyas -260 [57,76] 1/28/2006 12:04:00 PM
743 FG Louisville Cardinals -130 [56,65] 1/28/2006 2:07:00 PM
50/72 -50 # 38816829
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 28-Jan-2006 : -24
27 Jan 2006 11:09 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52781011
2Parlay
525 FG Harvard Crimson +2½ -110 [74,82] 1/27/2006 7:05:00 PM
535 FG Manhattan Jaspers +1 -110 [74,69] 1/27/2006 8:35:00 PM
25/65 -25 # 38799687
Straight 535 FG Manhattan Jaspers EV [74,69] 1/27/2006 8:35:00 PM
75/75 75 # 38799684
Straight 525 FG Harvard Crimson +2½ -110 [74,82] 1/27/2006 7:05:00 PM
30/27 -30 # 38799676
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 27-Jan-2006 : 20
26 Jan 2006 22:02 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52748377
Straight 761 FG UCLA Bruins EV [56,49] 1/26/2006 10:35:00 PM
25/25 25 # 38796103
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 26-Jan-2006 : 25
26 Jan 2006 20:24 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52737366
Straight 745 FG UL Lafayette Ragin Cajuns +10½ -110 [81,94] 1/26/2006 9:05:00 PM
25/23 -25 # 38793985
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 26-Jan-2006 : -25
26 Jan 2006 14:25 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52707077
Straight 761 FG UCLA Bruins +1 -110 [56,49] 1/26/2006 10:35:00 PM
42/38 38 # 38784980
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 26-Jan-2006 : 38
25 Jan 2006 23:19 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52674971
Straight 605 2H Air Force Falcons PK EV [30,23] 1/25/2006 11:29:00 PM
21/21 21 # 38780994
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 25-Jan-2006 : 21
25 Jan 2006 12:49 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52618155
Straight 557 FG Oklahoma Sooners -11½ -110 [82,52] 1/25/2006 8:05:00 PM
37/34 34 # 38763065
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 25-Jan-2006 : 34
24 Jan 2006 16:13 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52548097
Straight 729 FG Georgetown Hoyas +2 -110 [85,82] 1/24/2006 7:05:00 PM
13/12 12 # 38749387
Straight 710 FG Minnesota Timberwolves +5½ -110 [107,83] 1/24/2006 8:12:00 PM
25/23 -25 # 38749374
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 24-Jan-2006 : -13
22 Jan 2006 20:27 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52392906
Straight 107 2H Carolina Panthers PK +110 [7,14] 1/22/2006 8:36:00 PM
50/55 -50 # 38724692
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 22-Jan-2006 : -50
22 Jan 2006 18:17 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52371083
Straight 107 FG Carolina Panthers +3½ -105 [14,34] 1/22/2006 6:49:00 PM
150/143 -150 # 38717798
Straight 107 1H Carolina Panthers +1½ EV [7,20] 1/22/2006 6:49:00 PM
50/50 -50 # 38717641
Straight 107 FG Carolina Panthers +3½ -110 [14,34] 1/22/2006 6:49:00 PM
512/465 -512 # 38717157
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 22-Jan-2006 : -712
22 Jan 2006 16:37 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52354556
Straight 107 1H Carolina Panthers +1½ EV [7,20] 1/22/2006 6:49:00 PM
50/50 -50 # 38711512
Straight 105 2H Pittsburgh Steelers +6 -110 [10,14] 1/22/2006 4:47:00 PM
48/44 44 # 38711463
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 22-Jan-2006 : -6
21 Jan 2006 23:36 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 52274962
Straight 105 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +3 EV [34,17] 1/22/2006 3:10:00 PM
60/60 60 # 38685228
Straight 105 1H Pittsburgh Steelers +1½ -105 [24,3] 1/22/2006 3:10:00 PM
50/48 48 # 38685222
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 22-Jan-2006 : 108
15 Jan 2006 20:25 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51735383
2Parlay
105 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +145 [34,17] 1/22/2006 3:10:00 PM
107 FG Carolina Panthers +160 [14,34] 1/22/2006 6:49:00 PM
100/537 -100 # 38556141
Straight 107 FG Carolina Panthers +4½ -110 [14,34] 1/22/2006 6:49:00 PM
350/318 -350 # 38556132
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 22-Jan-2006 : -450
15 Jan 2006 20:11 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51732924
Straight 105 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +3 EV [34,17] 1/22/2006 3:10:00 PM
300/300 300 # 38555685
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 22-Jan-2006 : 300
15 Jan 2006 18:22 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51721027
Straight 307 2H Carolina Panthers +1½ -115 [13,14] 1/15/2006 6:33:00 PM
200/174 174 # 38553223
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 15-Jan-2006 : 174
15 Jan 2006 16:29 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51708175
Straight 307 FG Carolina Panthers +110 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
125/138 138 # 38549774
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 15-Jan-2006 : 138
15 Jan 2006 16:26 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51706604
2 Teaser FB 6 Points
307 FG Carolina Panthers +8½ -110 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
307 FG Carolina Panthers Over +25 -110 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
75/68 68 # 38548950
Straight 307 FG Carolina Panthers +2½ -110 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
500/455 455 # 38548548
Straight 307 1H Carolina Panthers +½ -115 [16,7] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
76/66 66 # 38548475
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 15-Jan-2006 : 589
15 Jan 2006 13:04 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51683621
Straight 305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +10 -110 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
50/45 45 # 38540529
Straight 305 1H Pittsburgh Steelers +260 [14,3] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
25/65 65 # 38540232
Straight 305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +400 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
25/100 100 # 38540217
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 15-Jan-2006 : 210
14 Jan 2006 23:28 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51631644
Straight 305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +300 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
27/81 81 # 38520471
2Parlay
305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +300 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
307 FG Carolina Panthers +115 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
25/190 190 # 38520464
Straight 305 1H Pittsburgh Steelers +6½ EV [14,3] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
50/50 50 # 38520461
Straight 305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +9½ -110 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
240/218 218 # 38520453
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 15-Jan-2006 : 539
14 Jan 2006 21:55 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51622749
Straight 303 2H New England Patriots -1½ -120 [10,17] 1/14/2006 10:06:00 PM
100/83 -100 # 38518500
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -100
14 Jan 2006 20:04 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51612163
3Parlay
303 FG New England Patriots +125 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +300 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
307 FG Carolina Panthers +115 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
50/918 -50 # 38515583
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -50
14 Jan 2006 19:41 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51604558
Straight 303 1H New England Patriots +1½ -115 [3,10] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
58/50 -58 # 38510829
3Parlay
303 FG New England Patriots +3 -110 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +9½ -110 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
307 FG Carolina Panthers +2½ -110 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
50/300 -50 # 38510557
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -108
14 Jan 2006 19:38 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51603971
Straight 303 FG New England Patriots +125 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
400/500 -400 # 38510274
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -400
14 Jan 2006 18:03 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51592435
Straight 301 2H Washington Redskins +3½ -105 [7,13] 1/14/2006 6:12:00 PM
84/80 -84 # 38505926
Straight 301 2H Washington Redskins +3½ -110 [7,13] 1/14/2006 6:12:00 PM
100/91 -100 # 38505711
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -184
14 Jan 2006 03:01 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51520787
Straight 301 1H Washington Redskins +6½ -115 [3,7] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
100/87 87 # 38473855
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : 87
13 Jan 2006 17:21 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51468844
2Parlay
510 FG Philadelphia 76ers -250 [124,125] 1/13/2006 8:12:00 PM
517 FG Miami Heat -500 [117,104] 1/13/2006 10:42:00 PM
75/51 51 # 38460757
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 13-Jan-2006 : 51
12 Jan 2006 23:29 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51425259
Straight 301 FG Washington Redskins +300 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
150/450 -150 # 38453655
2Parlay
301 FG Washington Redskins +300 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
303 FG New England Patriots +125 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
75/600 -75 # 38453649
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -225
12 Jan 2006 23:14 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51423728
2Parlay
301 FG Washington Redskins +300 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
303 FG New England Patriots +125 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
100/800 -100 # 38453565
4Parlay
301 FG Washington Redskins +300 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
303 FG New England Patriots +125 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
305 FG Pittsburgh Steelers +325 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
307 FG Carolina Panthers +115 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
25/2031 -25 # 38453562
4Parlay
302 FG Seattle Seahawks -400 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
303 FG New England Patriots +125 [13,27] 1/14/2006 8:20:00 PM
306 FG Indianapolis Colts -450 [21,18] 1/15/2006 1:08:00 PM
307 FG Carolina Panthers +115 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
50/320 -50 # 38453558
Straight 307 FG Carolina Panthers +2½ -110 [29,21] 1/15/2006 4:43:00 PM
350/318 318 # 38453554
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : 143
12 Jan 2006 20:03 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51404424
Straight 736 1H Pittsburgh Panthers -6½ -110 [32,29] 1/12/2006 9:05:00 PM
20/18 -20 # 38449112
Straight 736 FG Pittsburgh Panthers -11½ -110 [65,73] 1/12/2006 9:05:00 PM
20/18 -20 # 38449111
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 12-Jan-2006 : -40
11 Jan 2006 23:35 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51349546
Straight 301 FG Washington Redskins +290 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
100/290 -100 # 38437908
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -100
11 Jan 2006 22:06 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51340030
Straight 602 2H Duke Blue Devils -2 -110 [30,31] 1/11/2006 10:13:00 PM
65/59 -65 # 38436142
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 11-Jan-2006 : -65
11 Jan 2006 21:47 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51337037
Straight 301 FG Washington Redskins +9 -110 [10,20] 1/14/2006 4:37:00 PM
188/171 -188 # 38435304
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 14-Jan-2006 : -188
11 Jan 2006 20:56 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51331055
Straight 601 FG Maryland Terrapins +13 -110 [52,76] 1/11/2006 9:10:00 PM
110/100 -110 # 38433778
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 11-Jan-2006 : -110
11 Jan 2006 16:36 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51305100
2Parlay
523 FG Temple Owls -240 [83,66] 1/11/2006 7:05:00 PM
527 FG Villanova Wildcats -450 [84,78] 1/11/2006 7:05:00 PM
100/73 73 # 38422985
2Parlay
527 FG Villanova Wildcats -450 [84,78] 1/11/2006 7:05:00 PM
534 FG Michigan State Spartans -200 [73,87] 1/11/2006 7:05:00 PM
100/83 83 # 38422914
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 11-Jan-2006 : 156
10 Jan 2006 19:43 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51243704
Straight 731 FG Vanderbilt Commodores +6 -110 [57,52] 1/10/2006 9:06:00 PM
100/91 91 # 38411426
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 10-Jan-2006 : 91
10 Jan 2006 19:01 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51240168
Straight 720 FG Minnesota Golden Gophers +3½ -110 [64,62] 1/10/2006 7:05:00 PM
237/215 215 # 38409878
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 10-Jan-2006 : 215
08 Jan 2006 19:42 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51084271
Straight 706 FG Houston Rockets -3 -110 [92,90] 1/8/2006 8:42:00 PM
50/45 -50 # 38377278
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : -50
08 Jan 2006 18:15 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51075782
Straight 208 2H Cincinnati Bengals +4½ +105 [17,0] 1/8/2006 6:22:00 PM
100/105 -100 # 38375466
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : -100
08 Jan 2006 16:26 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51065460
Straight 207 FG Pittsburgh Steelers -3 -110 [31,17] 1/8/2006 4:38:00 PM
42/38 38 # 38372847
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 38
08 Jan 2006 15:48 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51056698
Straight 207 1H Pittsburgh Steelers -1½ -110 [14,17] 1/8/2006 4:38:00 PM
100/91 -100 # 38368000
Straight 207 FG Pittsburgh Steelers -2½ -125 Buy +½ [31,17] 1/8/2006 4:38:00 PM
161/129 129 # 38367972
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 29
08 Jan 2006 14:26 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51045611
Straight 205 2H Carolina Panthers +3 -115 [13,0] 1/8/2006 2:37:00 PM
75/65 65 # 38363309
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 65
08 Jan 2006 14:25 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51045189
Straight 207 FG Pittsburgh Steelers -3 EV [31,17] 1/8/2006 4:38:00 PM
75/75 75 # 38363144
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 75
08 Jan 2006 12:52 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51035456
Straight 205 FG Carolina Panthers +120 [23,0] 1/8/2006 1:07:00 PM
200/240 240 # 38358854
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 240
08 Jan 2006 12:19 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 51029192
2Parlay
205 FG Carolina Panthers +120 [23,0] 1/8/2006 1:07:00 PM
207 FG Pittsburgh Steelers -150 [31,17] 1/8/2006 4:38:00 PM
100/267 267 # 38354649
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 267
07 Jan 2006 22:30 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50985195
Straight 205 FG Carolina Panthers +2½ -110 [23,0] 1/8/2006 1:07:00 PM
300/273 273 # 38341379
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 08-Jan-2006 : 273
07 Jan 2006 21:30 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50979081
Straight 203 2H Jacksonville Jaguars +3 EV [0,21] 1/7/2006 9:43:00 PM
42/42 -42 # 38339274
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 07-Jan-2006 : -42
07 Jan 2006 19:37 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50964776
Straight 203 1H Jacksonville Jaguars +4½ -110 [3,7] 1/7/2006 8:10:00 PM
48/44 44 # 38332540
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 07-Jan-2006 : 44
07 Jan 2006 18:02 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50953367
Straight 202 2H Tampa Bay Buccaneers -3 EV [0,7] 1/7/2006 6:15:00 PM
49/49 49 # 38327883
Straight 203 FG Jacksonville Jaguars +280 [3,28] 1/7/2006 8:10:00 PM
100/280 -100 # 38327866
Straight 203 FG Jacksonville Jaguars +8 -110 [3,28] 1/7/2006 8:10:00 PM
50/45 -50 # 38327849
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 07-Jan-2006 : -101
07 Jan 2006 14:29 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50928070
Straight 202 1H Tampa Bay Buccaneers -½ -105 [17,3] 1/7/2006 4:38:00 PM
32/30 -32 # 38315955
Straight 202 FG Tampa Bay Buccaneers -1 -110 [17,10] 1/7/2006 4:36:00 PM
150/136 -150 # 38315941
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 07-Jan-2006 : -182
06 Jan 2006 15:32 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50838539
Straight 202 FG Tampa Bay Buccaneers -130 [17,10] 1/7/2006 4:36:00 PM
100/77 -100 # 38284256
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 07-Jan-2006 : -100
04 Jan 2006 01:03 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50636577
Straight 473 FG Texas Longhorns +220 [41,38] 1/4/2006 8:27:00 PM
50/110 110 # 38236620
Straight 473 FG Texas Longhorns +220 [41,38] 1/4/2006 8:27:00 PM
100/220 220 # 38236614
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 04-Jan-2006 : 330
03 Jan 2006 22:11 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50622769
Straight 471 2H Florida State Seminoles +7 -110 [10,12] 1/3/2006 10:35:00 PM
50/45 45 # 38234599
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 03-Jan-2006 : 45
03 Jan 2006 22:10 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50622360
Straight 471 2H Florida State Seminoles +7 -110 [10,12] 1/3/2006 10:35:00 PM
50/45 45 # 38234472
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 03-Jan-2006 : 45
03 Jan 2006 19:13 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50601902
Straight 471 1H Florida State Seminoles +230 [13,14] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
23/53 -23 # 38227882
2Parlay
472 FG Penn State Nittany Lions -400 [23,26] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
473 FG Texas Longhorns +220 [41,38] 1/4/2006 8:27:00 PM
75/225 225 # 38227870
Straight 472 FG Penn State Nittany Lions -10 -110 [23,26] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
100/91 -100 # 38227850
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 03-Jan-2006 : 102
03 Jan 2006 00:50 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50549183
Straight 472 1H Penn State Nittany Lions -4½ -120 [13,14] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
50/42 -50 # 38214754
Straight 473 FG Texas Longhorns +7 -110 [41,38] 1/4/2006 8:27:00 PM
100/91 91 # 38214740
Straight 473 FG Texas Longhorns +220 [41,38] 1/4/2006 8:27:00 PM
100/220 220 # 38214737
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 03-Jan-2006 : 261
02 Jan 2006 22:55 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50540397
2Parlay
472 FG Penn State Nittany Lions -400 [23,26] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
473 FG Texas Longhorns +220 [41,38] 1/4/2006 8:27:00 PM
50/150 150 # 38213941
Straight 472 FG Penn State Nittany Lions -10 -110 [23,26] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
75/68 -75 # 38213907
Straight 470 2H Georgia Bulldogs -10½ EV [7,14] 1/2/2006 11:10:00 PM
25/25 -25 # 38213873
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 04-Jan-2006 : 50
02 Jan 2006 20:51 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50527269
Straight 469 FG West Virginia Mountaineers +240 [38,35] 1/2/2006 8:53:00 PM
50/120 120 # 38211343
Straight 469 FG West Virginia Mountaineers +7 -110 [38,35] 1/2/2006 8:53:00 PM
68/62 62 # 38211278
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 02-Jan-2006 : 182
02 Jan 2006 19:09 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50513543
Straight 469 FG West Virginia Mountaineers +240 [38,35] 1/2/2006 8:53:00 PM
25/60 60 # 38206133
Straight 469 FG West Virginia Mountaineers +7 -110 [38,35] 1/2/2006 8:53:00 PM
50/45 45 # 38206131
2 Teaser FB 6 Points
472 FG Penn State Nittany Lions -4 -110 [23,26] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
472 FG Penn State Nittany Lions Under +52½ -110 [23,26] 1/3/2006 8:22:00 PM
30/27 -30 # 38206112
Straight 468 2H Ohio State Buckeyes +1½ -120 [13,13] 1/2/2006 7:09:00 PM
40/33 33 # 38206044
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 03-Jan-2006 : 108
02 Jan 2006 14:51 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50479794
Straight 469 FG West Virginia Mountaineers +240 [38,35] 1/2/2006 8:53:00 PM
20/48 48 # 38191798
Straight 468 1H Ohio State Buckeyes -1½ -120 [7,21] 1/2/2006 5:06:00 PM
20/17 17 # 38191764
Straight 465 2H Wisconsin Badgers +6½ -105 [7,10] 1/2/2006 3:03:00 PM
20/19 19 # 38191733
Straight 468 FG Ohio State Buckeyes -3 -135 Buy +1 [20,34] 1/2/2006 5:06:00 PM
112/83 83 # 38191660
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 02-Jan-2006 : 167
01 Jan 2006 21:58 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50414217
2Parlay
459 FG Alabama Crimson Tide +3½ -110 [13,10] 1/2/2006 11:14:00 AM
462 FG Florida Gators PK -110 [24,31] 1/2/2006 11:06:00 AM
14/36 36 # 38163088
Straight 465 FG Wisconsin Badgers +10½ -110 [24,10] 1/2/2006 1:09:00 PM
15/14 14 # 38163082
Straight 462 FG Florida Gators PK -110 [24,31] 1/2/2006 11:06:00 AM
20/18 18 # 38163081
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 02-Jan-2006 : 68
01 Jan 2006 19:31 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50397358
Straight 458 FG Dallas Cowboys -7 -130 Buy +1 [20,10] 1/1/2006 8:40:00 PM
52/40 -52 # 38156359
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 01-Jan-2006 : -52
01 Jan 2006 17:49 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50386060
Straight 456 2H Philadelphia Eagles +7½ -110 [21,3] 1/1/2006 6:02:00 PM
50/45 -50 # 38153927
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 01-Jan-2006 : -50
01 Jan 2006 16:13 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50375338
Straight 456 FG Philadelphia Eagles +270 [31,20] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
10/27 -10 # 38151737
Straight 456 FG Philadelphia Eagles +8 -110 [31,20] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
25/23 -25 # 38151713
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 01-Jan-2006 : -35
01 Jan 2006 16:08 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50373900
2Parlay
439 FG Chicago Bears +190 [10,34] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
456 FG Philadelphia Eagles +270 [31,20] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
25/243 -25 # 38150901
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 01-Jan-2006 : -25
01 Jan 2006 16:02 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50372365
Straight 459 FG Alabama Crimson Tide +3½ -110 [13,10] 1/2/2006 11:14:00 AM
25/23 23 # 38149586
Straight 462 FG Florida Gators PK -110 [24,31] 1/2/2006 11:06:00 AM
40/36 36 # 38149543
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 02-Jan-2006 : 59
01 Jan 2006 16:01 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50372106
Straight 456 FG Philadelphia Eagles +270 [31,20] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
40/108 -40 # 38149275
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 01-Jan-2006 : -40
01 Jan 2006 15:50 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50364812
3Parlay
439 FG Chicago Bears +5 -110 [10,34] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
452 FG Jacksonville Jaguars -4 -110 [13,40] 1/1/2006 4:10:00 PM
455 FG Washington Redskins -8 -110 [31,20] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
25/150 -25 # 38147545
Straight 456 FG Philadelphia Eagles +8 -110 [31,20] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
100/91 -100 # 38147451
Bet Adjustment : 0
Total for 01-Jan-2006 : -125
01 Jan 2006 12:41 Internet (betonsports.co.cr) Session # 50347111
Straight 449 FG Houston Texans +1 -110 [17,20] 1/1/2006 4:10:00 PM
40/36 -40 # 38135607
Straight 439 FG Chicago Bears +4 -110 [10,34] 1/1/2006 4:20:00 PM
30/27 -30 # 38135555
Straight 445 FG Miami Dolphins +7 -110 [28,26] 1/1/2006 1:05:00 PM
30/27 27 # 38135443
Straight 437 FG Carolina Panthers -3 -110 [44,11] 1/1/2006 1:05:00 PM
44/40 40 # 38135348

[astrosfan64]

Based on your predictions of sporting events before they happen, I would think that you were a bad gambler.

Based on your self-reported winnings gambling, I would think that you were a good gambler.


Date Trans. Description Fund
Type Activity Balance Detail Notes
Cash Bonus Bet Avail. Cash Bonus
01/15 Sun - Balance Forward 0.00 0.00 0.00 842.00 842.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38520461 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +6½ 0.00 0.00 50.00 892.00 892.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38540232 Win Pittsburgh Steelers 0.00 0.00 65.00 957.00 957.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38520453 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +9½ 0.00 0.00 218.00 1,175.00 1,175.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38520471 Win Pittsburgh Steelers 0.00 0.00 81.00 1,256.00 1,256.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38540217 Win Pittsburgh Steelers 0.00 0.00 100.00 1,356.00 1,356.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38540529 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +10 0.00 0.00 45.00 1,401.00 1,401.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38548475 Win Carolina Panthers +½ 0.00 0.00 66.00 1,467.00 1,467.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38453554 Win Carolina Panthers +2½ 0.00 0.00 318.00 1,785.00 1,785.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38520464 Win 2 Parlay 0.00 0.00 190.00 1,975.00 1,975.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38548548 Win Carolina Panthers +2½ 0.00 0.00 455.00 2,430.00 2,430.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38548950 Win 2 Teaser 0.00 0.00 68.00 2,498.00 2,498.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38549774 Win Carolina Panthers 0.00 0.00 138.00 2,636.00 2,636.00 0.00
01/15 Sun 38553223 Win Carolina Panthers +1½ 0.00 0.00 174.00 2,810.00 2,810.00 0.00
01/19 Thu 33161381 Withdrawal COUT -1,900.00 0.00 0.00 910.00 910.00 0.00 p/o via firepay.....mauricio
01/22 Sun 38685222 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +1½ 0.00 0.00 48.00 958.00 958.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38555685 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +3 0.00 0.00 300.00 1,258.00 1,258.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38685228 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +3 0.00 0.00 60.00 1,318.00 1,318.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38711463 Win Pittsburgh Steelers +6 0.00 0.00 44.00 1,362.00 1,362.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38711512 Lose Carolina Panthers +1½ 0.00 0.00 -50.00 1,312.00 1,312.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38717641 Lose Carolina Panthers +1½ 0.00 0.00 -50.00 1,262.00 1,262.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38556132 Lose Carolina Panthers +4½ 0.00 0.00 -350.00 912.00 912.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38556141 Lose 2 Parlay 0.00 0.00 -100.00 812.00 812.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38717157 Lose Carolina Panthers +3½ 0.00 0.00 -512.00 300.00 300.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38717798 Lose Carolina Panthers +3½ 0.00 0.00 -150.00 150.00 150.00 0.00
01/22 Sun 38724692 Lose Carolina Panthers PK 0.00 0.00 -50.00 100.00 100.00 0.00
01/24 Tue 38749387 Win Georgetown Hoyas +2 0.00 0.00 12.00 112.00 112.00 0.00
01/24 Tue 38749374 Lose Minnesota Timberwolves +5½ 0.00 0.00 -25.00 87.00 87.00 0.00
01/25 Wed 38763065 Win Oklahoma Sooners -11½ 0.00 0.00 34.00 121.00 121.00 0.00
01/25 Wed 38780994 Win Air Force Falcons PK 0.00 0.00 21.00 142.00 142.00 0.00
01/26 Thu 38793985 Lose UL Lafayette Ragin Cajuns +10½ 0.00 0.00 -25.00 117.00 117.00 0.00
01/26 Thu 38784980 Win UCLA Bruins +1 0.00 0.00 38.00 155.00 155.00 0.00
01/26 Thu 38796103 Win UCLA Bruins 0.00 0.00 25.00 180.00 180.00 0.00
01/27 Fri 38799676 Lose Harvard Crimson +2½ 0.00 0.00 -30.00 150.00 150.00 0.00
01/27 Fri 38799687 Lose 2 Parlay 0.00 0.00 -25.00 125.00 125.00 0.00
01/27 Fri 38799684 Win Manhattan Jaspers 0.00 0.00 75.00 200.00 200.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38816992 Win Marquette Golden Eagles +9½ 0.00 0.00 36.00 236.00 236.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38816995 Lose Marquette Golden Eagles 0.00 0.00 -10.00 226.00 226.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38816829 Lose 2 Parlay 0.00 0.00 -50.00 176.00 176.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38827570 Lose Wisconsin Badgers +3 0.00 0.00 -26.00 150.00 150.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38828064 Win North PK 0.00 0.00 45.00 195.00 195.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38837040 Lose Texas A&M Aggies -9 0.00 0.00 -30.00 165.00 165.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38837399 Lose Villanova Wildcats -3½ 0.00 0.00 -12.00 153.00 153.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38840497 Win Oklahoma Sooners +2 0.00 0.00 14.00 167.00 167.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38827585 Win Oklahoma Sooners +3½ 0.00 0.00 45.00 212.00 212.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38837309 Win Oklahoma Sooners +4 0.00 0.00 23.00 235.00 235.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38842853 Win Oklahoma Sooners +3 0.00 0.00 13.00 248.00 248.00 0.00
01/28 Sat 38842863 Win Oklahoma Sooners +3 0.00 0.00 15.00 263.00 263.00 0.00
01/29 Sun 38845501 Win 2 Teaser 0.00 0.00 100.00 363.00 363.00 0.00
01/29 Sun 38854420 Win NC State Wolfpack 0.00 0.00 53.00 416.00 416.00 0.00




Geez, I'm just having fun. There is my log, I'm pretty sure I've made more money gambling this last month then most of you have. I'll drop it and won't post about it anymore. I do much better in college sports then I do professional. But then again so do most gamblers.

[PSUColonel]

Handicapping football games has beome a "hobby" of mie in the last decade or so. I am not usually too far off from what the experts in Vegas think. It's when I do find a difference between what I think and what they think that I consider betting the game. I don't have a bad record either. Even if there is a difference between what i think and what Vegas does, I won't always jump on it...there are many other things I look at...too mant to list here. Anyway, I WILL be betting this Super Bowl. It is oneof the few in recent memory where i can honestly say (In my opinion) the line is very off. In my estimation, on a nuteral field, Seattle should be a 3 point favorite. There are no serious injuries that i can see that would account for what I see as a 7 point difference either. Pitt is a 6 seed coming off 3 road playoff wins and are now favorites for the first time in the payoffs. Couple that with a two week layover and a chance to lose some momentum, I really think it spells an outright victory for Seattle. Just my 2 cents.

[MIJB#19]

I do much better in college sports then I do professional. But then again so do most gamblers.
That's true. I know nothing about college football and don't even know what is a good school, but still managed to be in the top 11% in Yahoo! spread picking during the 2003 season. I quickly retired from college pickem, I was too good to be true, without knowing anything about the teams involved. Imagine how humiliated the entire USA would be if I'd had really tried? This season I'm 12-4 up straight for both the Seahawks and Steelers in regular season games. So I should be reliable. I think the Seahawks will win.

:rolleyes:

[Schmidty]

Gentlemen:

You will be happy to know. I have taken that 50 dollars I had left over from the horrible loss I took in NFC Conference Title game and I've invested it in college basketball this past week. I've rebuilt my money to $525.00 dollars. Texas losing to Oklahoma last night helped me out real nice.

Anyway, I'm hoping to have close to 750 or more in my account by the time the Superbowl rolls around.

I've been off on Seattle so far, but I'm telling they will go down and go down hard.

I've looked at the last two Seattle games in replay a few times. It wasn't that Seattle was that good, it was simply that the other teams were that bad.

You are the coolest person in history. You make the Fonz look like Jerry Lewis.

I am in awe of your dietific perfection.

(You do have a 1-800 gambling line, right?)

[Desnudo]

Geez, I'm just having fun. There is my log, I'm pretty sure I've made more money gambling this last month then most of you have. I'll drop it and won't post about it anymore. I do much better in college sports then I do professional. But then again so do most gamblers.

I like it, I think you should keep it up (100% sincere). Although if you are going to reference gambling wins you really have to post about them ahead of the game or else who's going to believe you? I call this problem the Phil Simms disease.

[TroyF]

So let me get this straight, because I want to be sure. . .

You are saying Carolina was just "really bad" and that Seattle had nothing to do with it?

Look, bet away and who knows, maybe you'll be right. I mean eventually, Seattle will lose again. Then you'll be able to scream about how overrated they are. But saying that the other teams were terrible and Seattle wasn't really that good is just moronic.

If the other teams were so terrible, maybe you shouldn't have laid money on them to beat Seattle. Fact is, Seattle just tore apart two teams who you said would beat them. It wasn't because the other teams were bad, were coming into the game on a down note or had more injuries than Seattle. It had everything to do with Seattle being the better team. They finished with the best record in the conference and got home field for a reason: Because they were the best team in the NFC.

You'll be one of those psyhos saying "See, I told you they sucked" if Seattle loses by a TD to the Steelers. Well, news flash. . . even if they get their asses handed to them by Pittsburgh, it won't mean they were a bad team. Pittsburgh just happens to be the team who has beaten three top teams pretty easily. (The Colts game was only close because the refs are idiots) If they beat the Seahawks, it just means they were on a roll and couldn't be stopped. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Bengals, Colts and Broncos aren't "bad" teams. Nor is the Patriots. They are good teams who were bounced. My guess is you'll be wrong yet again. FWIW, I don't care to see your "gambling" tickets. Go to the dynasty forums, create a page that says "Astrosfans bets for tonight" and post there about the games you are going to bet on. BEFORE the game has happened.

After a few months, we'll all be able to tell how good or bad you really are. Until then, all I KNOW about your picks is that they are pretty pathetic, especially when you blew a gigantic chunk of your bankroll on the Seahawks. . . twice.

[astrosfan64]

Not a bad idea. Dynasty sounds like fun.

[Raiders Army]

Handicapping football games has beome a "hobby" of mie in the last decade or so. I am not usually too far off from what the experts in Vegas think. It's when I do find a difference between what I think and what they think that I consider betting the game. I don't have a bad record either. Even if there is a difference between what i think and what Vegas does, I won't always jump on it...there are many other things I look at...too mant to list here. Anyway, I WILL be betting this Super Bowl. It is oneof the few in recent memory where i can honestly say (In my opinion) the line is very off. In my estimation, on a nuteral field, Seattle should be a 3 point favorite. There are no serious injuries that i can see that would account for what I see as a 7 point difference either. Pitt is a 6 seed coming off 3 road playoff wins and are now favorites for the first time in the payoffs. Couple that with a two week layover and a chance to lose some momentum, I really think it spells an outright victory for Seattle. Just my 2 cents.
Nice analysis, but I think you underestimate the 3-4. IIRC, Seattle only faced Houston (LOL) and Dallas who played with the 3-4. Seattle squeaked by Dallas at home during the regular season, 13 to 10. Other than their blowout at Philly, that was the lowest rushing output for Alexander and Hasselbeck threw two interceptions. Also remember the last time they played against the 3-4 was October 23rd. Finally, Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense is much better than Dallas'.

[sterlingice]

Hmmm....so who is currently the most overrated Super Bowl winning team in history? Not that I think that the Seahawks are going to win. I just want to have a reference point for comparision sake.I'd say the Ravens from a couple of years ago. They had a great defense but a mediocre offense. Then again, my memory of Super Bowls only goes back about 15 years.

That's also not to say there haven't been some "merely" good teams (rather than very good or great) *in* the Super Bowl and not have won. Look at the Raiders from a couple of years ago, they were pretty good- very good offense, decent defense.

If you want to define "great" team as whoever makes it to the Super Bowl, then, no, you can't argue against that definition. Yes, they proved it on the field. I'm just saying, on paper, some teams look weaker than others.

SI

[miami_fan]

I'd say the Ravens from a couple of years ago. They had a great defense but a mediocre offense. Then again, my memory of Super Bowls only goes back about 15 years.

That's also not to say there haven't been some "merely" good teams (rather than very good or great) *in* the Super Bowl and not have won. Look at the Raiders from a couple of years ago, they were pretty good- very good offense, decent defense.

If you want to define "great" team as whoever makes it to the Super Bowl, then, no, you can't argue against that definition. Yes, they proved it on the field. I'm just saying, on paper, some teams look weaker than others.

SI

See I would agree that the Ravens weren't a "great" team. But were they overrated? At the time, most people describe them in exactly the same way that you described them. Even today, the best you could say about that offense is they did not lose the games they played. So they actually have been rated correctly. I have yet to hear anyone compare the Seahawks as a "great" team on either side of the ball. So I can't see how they can be considered overrated. If someone were to say that they had a better offense than the Colts for example then yes that would make them overrated. Like I said, I don't expect the Seahwaks to win. I think the Steelers are a better team overall and that they match up better against the Seahawks on both sides of the ball. However, the Seahawks are rated correctly IMO.

[MIJB#19]

The Patriots were called average and worst ever Super Bowl team in some areas when they first made it. Three Bowl wins later, people are talking dynasty. The tide can turn so easily...

[cthomer5000]

The Patriots were called average and worst ever Super Bowl team in some areas when they first made it. Three Bowl wins later, people are talking dynasty. The tide can turn so easily...
That 2001 Patriots team would probably be my choice for the worst Super Bowl winner. People forget just how damn good the 2000 Ravens defense was. No way I could count them as the worst.

[panerd]

I'd say the Ravens from a couple of years ago. They had a great defense but a mediocre offense. Then again, my memory of Super Bowls only goes back about 15 years.

SI

I agree with your post, but I do think people tend to forget that they had the pre-prison/100-yds a game Jamal Lewis with Priest Holmes as his backup. (And Shannon Sharpe) So their running game wasn't exactly hurting. No doubt the defense carried the team, but I think Dilfer and the RB's did exactly what a team with that sort of defense needed to so. They just played conservative error-free football. They just weren't as flashy as the Rams or Broncos Super Bowl teams were, so nobody gave them enough credit.

(This is coming from a lifelong Cincinnati fan, so I really have to bite my tongue to post this)

And Astrosfan is really just a one issue troll who never seems to hit any bets that he tells us about ahead of time, but is very sucessful in all of his other bets. I could make up a log of bets that I have won also...

Buster Douglas +8000 over Mike Tyson (100/7200)
Cincinnati +13000 to sweep World Series (100/11000)
US Olympic Hockey Team +40000 to win gold medal (50/18000)

I wasn't as confident in my last pick. :D

[miami_fan]

Of course I would not mind if next year's Dolphins beccame the worse AFC champions ever! :)

[Desnudo]

That 2001 Patriots team would probably be my choice for the worst Super Bowl winner. People forget just how damn good the 2000 Ravens defense was. No way I could count them as the worst.

I think I would call the Ravens the most imbalanced SB winner ever. The Patriots team might be my choice (even as a NE fan), but the fact is that the core group that won that game is still around and has shown they actually have a lot of talent on both sides.

No mention of Tampa? Or Green Bay?

[cthomer5000]

No mention of Tampa? Or Green Bay? You could maybe throw Tampa into the discussion, but definitely not Green Bay in my opinion. After years of battling Dallas and San Fran they finally broke through. I think they were a damn good team, and the near repeat helps strengthen their argument.

The fact that the 2002 Pats missed the playoffs doesn't really help the 2001 team's case. I think the 2004 team would have trounced the 2001 team.

[astrosfan64]

Here is the point. The Seahawks have the first seed in the NFC. They won the Conference Championship. They are facing a six seed and are the underdogs on a neutrel field.

Seattle SHOULD BE FAVORED in this game. They had a better record and a fantastic win streak. By all accounts they should of been 14 and 2 during the regular season. That Green Bay game is a throw away game by them. They destroyed Carolina and struggled against Washington early, but handled their business in the second half.

They are not favored, because they are simply not that good. If this was boxing, they would be considered a paper champion. Yes, everything about them screams that they should be excellent, but have they really played ANYONE? The answer is no.

They beat a Washington team, who had no offense. They beat a Carolina team that was banged up and had a fourth string running back in the game. I've made my arguments about the regular season in other posts. I just don't think they are that good.

If they beat Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl, I'll be impressed and eat all the crow in the world. Heck, if I get my money to where I want it to be, I'll have lost another 1k on them.

[tanglewood]

Here is the point. The Seahawks have the first seed in the NFC. They won the Conference Championship. They are facing a six seed and are the underdogs on a neutrel field.

Seattle SHOULD BE FAVORED in this game. They had a better record and a fantastic win streak. By all accounts they should of been 14 and 2 during the regular season. That Green Bay game is a throw away game by them. They destroyed Carolina and struggled against Washington early, but handled their business in the second half.

They are not favored, because they are simply not that good. If this was boxing, they would be considered a paper champion. Yes, everything about them screams that they should be excellent, but have they really played ANYONE? The answer is no.

They beat a Washington team, who had no offense. They beat a Carolina team that was banged up and had a fourth string running back in the game. I've made my arguments about the regular season in other posts. I just don't think they are that good.

If they beat Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl, I'll be impressed and eat all the crow in the world. Heck, if I get my money to where I want it to be, I'll have lost another 1k on them.

They are not favoured because people like you think they aren't very good and are laying money on the Steelers. Nothing to do with how good the bookies think they are.

[ice4277]

This is like trying to make the argument that Buffalo was awful because they couldn't win in the Super Bowl. THEY STILL GOT THERE.

[panerd]

Here is the point. The Seahawks have the first seed in the NFC. They won the Conference Championship. They are facing a six seed and are the underdogs on a neutrel field.

Seattle SHOULD BE FAVORED in this game. They had a better record and a fantastic win streak. By all accounts they should of been 14 and 2 during the regular season. That Green Bay game is a throw away game by them. They destroyed Carolina and struggled against Washington early, but handled their business in the second half.

They are not favored, because they are simply not that good. If this was boxing, they would be considered a paper champion. Yes, everything about them screams that they should be excellent, but have they really played ANYONE? The answer is no.



For all of the gambling you claim to do you really don't understand the concept of a point spread. Vegas/Internet Gambling Sites/Bookies set a line based on where they think 50% of the people will bet on each team. If they are way off they change the line. (This is why your local bookie may have higher spreads on Texans or Astros games) The optimal set-up for Vegas or a gambling site would be exactly half of the people bet on each team. Then they have no expenses and take the juice on every bet made on the winning team. Let's say $50 million is bet on each team and they are only taking 5% juice. Then Vegas would make 2.5 million just for booking bets. There is no chance for a loss at all.

A lot of the time the lines end up being accurate, but sometimes a bunch of people like you think a team like Seattle is really bad and scew the line. And Vegas could care less if Pittsburgh loses by 50 they just want 50/50 bets on the game.

[SnowMan]

Gentlemen:

You will be happy to know. I have taken that 50 dollars I had left over from the horrible loss I took in NFC Conference Title game and I've invested it in college basketball this past week. I've rebuilt my money to $525.00 dollars. Texas losing to Oklahoma last night helped me out real nice.

Anyway, I'm hoping to have close to 750 or more in my account by the time the Superbowl rolls around.

I've been off on Seattle so far, but I'm telling they will go down and go down hard.

I've looked at the last two Seattle games in replay a few times. It wasn't that Seattle was that good, it was simply that the other teams were that bad. *yawn* This thread was interesting the first time. Version 3 kinda sucks.

[ISiddiqui]

Astrofan thinks the Seahawks are still overrated?! Why am I not surprised?

Though knowing his record this postseason, might as well bet on the Seahawks.

[Travis]

I give up. Even though I've been cheering for the Seahawks for the last 12 years, I find that Astrofan's faith in their obvious ineptitude overwhelming and convincing.

No longer can I back a team who has risen to such a position due to other teams complete ineptitude, mental breakdowns and coaching blunders. No longer can I hope for this team to win the Superbowl in light of all the breaks going their way. In good conscience I just simply can't even think about any member of the Seahawk team hoisting that trophy over their head when so many other NFC teams deserve it so much more.

How can things be fair and just in this world when a team so obviously undertalented, undercoached and so brutally bad go an entire season hitting almost every team they play on a bad day? I ask you in all seriousness, how does karma let a team get so lucky week after week?

I have seen the light though thanks to Astrofan, I see now just how overrated my former favorite team is.

One has to wonder though, if Paul Allen has paid some higher power with something greater than his money for the Seahawks to catch all these breaks, don't you think he would have made damn sure that they'd get those same breaks for one more week? Why sell your soul for the NFC Championship when you could likely get that one last game thrown in? I may not be able to cheer for them with a clear conscience anymore, but I refuse to believe that these no talent hacks will lose for just the fourth time (and really the first important loss since week 4) all year when everything is on the line if they've struck that kind of deal.

Somebody may have an eternity of hellfire and brimstone to suffer through because of it, but I still believe the Seahawks will end up champions. And it just sickens me.

Or, well, you know, GO HAWKS GO!

[cubboyroy1826]

Hey Neuqua how bout giving me a holler. I have sent a couple of PMs but havent heard back.

[astrosfan64]

For all of the gambling you claim to do you really don't understand the concept of a point spread. Vegas/Internet Gambling Sites/Bookies set a line based on where they think 50% of the people will bet on each team. If they are way off they change the line. (This is why your local bookie may have higher spreads on Texans or Astros games) The optimal set-up for Vegas or a gambling site would be exactly half of the people bet on each team. Then they have no expenses and take the juice on every bet made on the winning team. Let's say $50 million is bet on each team and they are only taking 5% juice. Then Vegas would make 2.5 million just for booking bets. There is no chance for a loss at all.

A lot of the time the lines end up being accurate, but sometimes a bunch of people like you think a team like Seattle is really bad and scew the line. And Vegas could care less if Pittsburgh loses by 50 they just want 50/50 bets on the game.

Yes, I understand how it works and don't necessarly agree with you on how they set the line.

They don't magicly go poof, I think america loves the Steelers, so I will favor them by 4 1/2, because that will give me 50%. I wasn't surprised to see the Steelers favored in this game, because they are the better team. They beat the two of the top three teams to get where they are this year. Seattle beat some of the worst teams in the playoffs.

You want facts how about this?

The Steelers are 6 and 1 vs the spred when favored this year by 3.5. to 9.5 points. They are 17 and 6 over the last three years with this sort of line.

Steelers are 6 and 3 when playing against a team with a winning record.

Seattle is 3 and 2 when playing against a team with a winning record.

Seattle is 1 and 2 as an underdog.

http://www.betonsports.com/linestats.shtml

There are a ton of trends and stats including how the betting public is moving the line and how "wise guys" are betting. I agree with your basic theory, but it goes MUCH deeper then what you stated.









While Vegas and sport books do prefer the line to be 50/50.

They do research on the teams and analyize statistics etc...

You are leaving out key parts of the equation though such as players are assigned point values. For example if a player like Mike Vic is hurt and is a game time decision usually a line won't be posted till close to the game. When he was in college he might be assigned a value of 6. If VT was the underdog and he played the line would be six points less then if he didn't play.

No need to be so hostile towards me relax my friend. You have your opinion and I have mine.

[astrosfan64]

Handicapping football games has beome a "hobby" of mie in the last decade or so. I am not usually too far off from what the experts in Vegas think. It's when I do find a difference between what I think and what they think that I consider betting the game. I don't have a bad record either. Even if there is a difference between what i think and what Vegas does, I won't always jump on it...there are many other things I look at...too mant to list here. Anyway, I WILL be betting this Super Bowl. It is oneof the few in recent memory where i can honestly say (In my opinion) the line is very off. In my estimation, on a nuteral field, Seattle should be a 3 point favorite. There are no serious injuries that i can see that would account for what I see as a 7 point difference either. Pitt is a 6 seed coming off 3 road playoff wins and are now favorites for the first time in the payoffs. Couple that with a two week layover and a chance to lose some momentum, I really think it spells an outright victory for Seattle. Just my 2 cents.

PSU do a bit of fact checking. Pitt is a 6 seed coming off of 3 road wins that is correct. But they were favored in the first round against the Bengals by 3 pts I believe.

[Desnudo]

Here is the point. The Seahawks have the first seed in the NFC. They won the Conference Championship. They are facing a six seed and are the underdogs on a neutrel field.

Seattle SHOULD BE FAVORED in this game. They had a better record and a fantastic win streak. By all accounts they should of been 14 and 2 during the regular season. That Green Bay game is a throw away game by them. They destroyed Carolina and struggled against Washington early, but handled their business in the second half.

They are not favored, because they are simply not that good. If this was boxing, they would be considered a paper champion. Yes, everything about them screams that they should be excellent, but have they really played ANYONE? The answer is no.

They beat a Washington team, who had no offense. They beat a Carolina team that was banged up and had a fourth string running back in the game. I've made my arguments about the regular season in other posts. I just don't think they are that good.

If they beat Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl, I'll be impressed and eat all the crow in the world. Heck, if I get my money to where I want it to be, I'll have lost another 1k on them.

So they should be favored in this game, but are dogs by 4.5 and you will still bet against them? :confused:

Things about the Seahawks in their advantage: better running back, better offensive line, at least equal QB, and a coach that has won a SB. Lost in all the analysis is that Cowher tends to freeze up in big games if things don't go according to plan, e.g. Steelers ahead by 14 and pounding the ball. If the Seahawks get ahead early then watch what happens.

[panerd]

Yes, I understand how it works and don't necessarly agree with you on how they set the line.

They don't magicly go poof, I think america loves the Steelers, so I will favor them by 4 1/2, because that will give me 50%. I wasn't surprised to see the Steelers favored in this game, because they are the better team. They beat the two of the top three teams to get where they are this year. Seattle beat some of the worst teams in the playoffs.

You want facts how about this?

The Steelers are 6 and 1 vs the spred when favored this year by 3.5. to 9.5 points. They are 17 and 6 over the last three years with this sort of line.

Steelers are 6 and 3 when playing against a team with a winning record.

Seattle is 3 and 2 when playing against a team with a winning record.

Seattle is 1 and 2 as an underdog.

http://www.betonsports.com/linestats.shtml

There are a ton of trends and stats including how the betting public is moving the line and how "wise guys" are betting. I agree with your basic theory, but it goes MUCH deeper then what you stated.









While Vegas and sport books do prefer the line to be 50/50.

They do research on the teams and analyize statistics etc...

You are leaving out key parts of the equation though such as players are assigned point values. For example if a player like Mike Vic is hurt and is a game time decision usually a line won't be posted till close to the game. When he was in college he might be assigned a value of 6. If VT was the underdog and he played the line would be six points less then if he didn't play.

No need to be so hostile towards me relax my friend. You have your opinion and I have mine.

But your opinion is wrong. They set the line so 50% of the bettors bet on each team. End of story. There is no other factor involved. Even if they think the Steelers will win by 6 or the Seahawks will win by 2, if they think half of the people will bet each way if they make the line PIT -3 that is the line they make. You are a fool to believe otherwise.

[Desnudo]

I just found out the Steelers don't have cheerleaders. I can't get on that bandwagon.

[Buccaneer]

But your opinion is wrong. They set the line so 50% of the bettors bet on each team. End of story. There is no other factor involved. Even if they think the Steelers will win by 6 or the Seahawks will win by 2, if they think half of the people will bet each way if they make the line PIT -3 that is the line they make. You are a fool to believe otherwise.
A fool and his money had parted. For someone who gambles a lot, he sure doesn't sound too experienced or knowledgeable.

[astrosfan64]

A fool and his money had parted. For someone who gambles a lot, he sure doesn't sound too experienced or knowledgeable.

As documented in my dynasty. I've reached my goal of a 1k by the superbowl. I started this with $50.00 after the Carolina Loss.

So please kiss my ass. I love these guys who read something on a website and think they know everything. That goes to you and panerd.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=46726&page=2

[Desnudo]

Very funny thread and outcome. I still look forward to making fun of your SB picks come Sunday.

[astrosfan64]

Very funny thread and outcome. I still look forward to making fun of your SB picks come Sunday.

Here is the kicker.

I know how my luck goes. In my head, I can't see anyway Seattle will win this game period. Once, I have it in for a team I can't rationalize on them. Generally, I will lay off these teams because I can't do anything other then bet agains them.

If Seattle would of been favored in this game, I would of felt a lot more comfortable betting on the Steelers. But, something has begun to gnaw at me.

If it wasn't for the fact, I've talked a ton of trash on this forum on the Seahawks I would probably lay off of this game. I have a bad feeling about this, but not because of any football reasons.

I guess we will see how it plays out, but I think Karma might just bite me in the ass. Especially after the gloating I just did.

[TroyF]

Here is the point. The Seahawks have the first seed in the NFC. They won the Conference Championship. They are facing a six seed and are the underdogs on a neutrel field.

Seattle SHOULD BE FAVORED in this game. They had a better record and a fantastic win streak. By all accounts they should of been 14 and 2 during the regular season. That Green Bay game is a throw away game by them. They destroyed Carolina and struggled against Washington early, but handled their business in the second half.

They are not favored, because they are simply not that good. If this was boxing, they would be considered a paper champion. Yes, everything about them screams that they should be excellent, but have they really played ANYONE? The answer is no.

They beat a Washington team, who had no offense. They beat a Carolina team that was banged up and had a fourth string running back in the game. I've made my arguments about the regular season in other posts. I just don't think they are that good.

If they beat Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl, I'll be impressed and eat all the crow in the world. Heck, if I get my money to where I want it to be, I'll have lost another 1k on them.


Here is the thing that gets me. . .

You talk about how Washington had no offense and that's the only reason Seattle won. Yet you PICKED Washington.

You talk about how Carolina had a banged up team and a fourth string running back. Did you think that Nick Goings was going to make that big of a difference? Because, he left with the score already 10-0 and had a whopping 2 yards on 5 carries before he left.

Carolina didn't get banged up anymore in the game than they already were. And yet you picked Carolina.

So your hindsite says Seattle beat a couple of horrific teams when before the games you thought those teams were superior to Seattle. (and you had to think they were superior to Seattle to assume they'd go on the road and beat Seattle in a stadium they hadn't yet lost in this year.

And you still don't seem to understand that Seattle is a pretty good football team. Their offense finished first in points, second in yards, first in fewest turnovers given up. They had the second fewest penalties in football. They were 9th in the NFL in yards allowed and 3rd in points against. They were first in the league in sacks.

You don't put up numbers like that in the NFL only because of an easy schedule. You have to have some talent to pull that off. Before the Carolina game I showed you what that offense did to a VERY good Washinton defense in the second half without Alexander.

You blew it off.

And no, you won't give the Seahawks credit if they win. You'll find an excuse. Maybe Parker will get hurt. Or maybe Porter will have a sprained ankle. Whatever, you'll find the reason they got lucky to win and probably be on here at the beginning of next season blabbing about how Seattle is GOING DOWN BABY.

If the Steelers win, you'll be talking about how right you were. . . when you have no hope of being anymore than 1-2 against them in the playoffs.

I think this game is a coin flip. I can see it going either way. If the Steelers continue their blueprint of getting an early lead, Seattle is in deep, deep trouble. On the flip side, if Seattle jumps out early, I'm not sure how they can come back against a good pass rushing team and no running game. PA is critical to their success as a passing offense.

I'm not betting on this game. If I were, I'd take Seattle.

[cartman]

There used to be a scam that went like this:

A guy would get a mailing list of say, 10,000 names. He would send out "betting guides" randomly to people with a can't miss pick for a game that weekend. To half of the people, he would send that Team A would win, to the other half that Team B would win. The next week, he would do the same thing, except he only used the names off of the list where he made the right choice. To half the remaining people he sent another can't miss pick with Team A, the other half team B. He kept this narrowing down process until about week 8, when he had a couple of hundred people convinced he really could pick games. He then would offer to sell them a subscription to his betting guide for the rest of the season. Without fail, he'd get around 100 people to sign up this way.

[astrosfan64]

Here is the thing that gets me. . .

You talk about how Washington had no offense and that's the only reason Seattle won. Yet you PICKED Washington.

You talk about how Carolina had a banged up team and a fourth string running back. Did you think that Nick Goings was going to make that big of a difference? Because, he left with the score already 10-0 and had a whopping 2 yards on 5 carries before he left.

Carolina didn't get banged up anymore in the game than they already were. And yet you picked Carolina.

So your hindsite says Seattle beat a couple of horrific teams when before the games you thought those teams were superior to Seattle. (and you had to think they were superior to Seattle to assume they'd go on the road and beat Seattle in a stadium they hadn't yet lost in this year.

And you still don't seem to understand that Seattle is a pretty good football team. Their offense finished first in points, second in yards, first in fewest turnovers given up. They had the second fewest penalties in football. They were 9th in the NFL in yards allowed and 3rd in points against. They were first in the league in sacks.

You don't put up numbers like that in the NFL only because of an easy schedule. You have to have some talent to pull that off. Before the Carolina game I showed you what that offense did to a VERY good Washinton defense in the second half without Alexander.

You blew it off.

And no, you won't give the Seahawks credit if they win. You'll find an excuse. Maybe Parker will get hurt. Or maybe Porter will have a sprained ankle. Whatever, you'll find the reason they got lucky to win and probably be on here at the beginning of next season blabbing about how Seattle is GOING DOWN BABY.

If the Steelers win, you'll be talking about how right you were. . . when you have no hope of being anymore than 1-2 against them in the playoffs.

I think this game is a coin flip. I can see it going either way. If the Steelers continue their blueprint of getting an early lead, Seattle is in deep, deep trouble. On the flip side, if Seattle jumps out early, I'm not sure how they can come back against a good pass rushing team and no running game. PA is critical to their success as a passing offense.

I'm not betting on this game. If I were, I'd take Seattle.


I call it the Philly syndrome. I mean as a philly fan from a young age you pretty much dislike every team in the league by default. Once a team, pisses you off you can almost never change your mind about them.

There are certain teams I usually never bet on, because I can't seperate myself from them. Like right now, I can't bet on a Texans game to save my life. They are my favorite team, so for some dumbass reason I always believe that they can win.

Seattle lost me money a couple of times during their earlier years. Games they should of won, but good old Alexender came up real short. He has done this to me quite a few times in the past. So this year, I lost money on betting against them four times.

FOUR TIMES. I took the Texans, the Eagles, the Redskins and the Panthers. I lost all four and some pretty substantial coin. Heck, if I remove those four losses, I probably would of made an extra $2000 this year. So the best I could hope for is 1 and 4 this year. :)

So as always do, I will go down with my ship. That ship is the anti seahawk ship. Big Ben could get hurt tomorrow and I would still bet on the Steelers. Call it the Philly, Polish Curse.

If it is a close game and Pittsburgh wins and I won't babble or blather about anything. If the hawks get blown out of the water though, I think you would have to admit they were a bit overrated and the NFC wasn't all that good.

[astrosfan64]

There used to be a scam that went like this:

A guy would get a mailing list of say, 10,000 names. He would send out "betting guides" randomly to people with a can't miss pick for a game that weekend. To half of the people, he would send that Team A would win, to the other half that Team B would win. The next week, he would do the same thing, except he only used the names off of the list where he made the right choice. To half the remaining people he sent another can't miss pick with Team A, the other half team B. He kept this narrowing down process until about week 8, when he had a couple of hundred people convinced he really could pick games. He then would offer to sell them a subscription to his betting guide for the rest of the season. Without fail, he'd get around 100 people to sign up this way.

LOL, remember one thing. No matter how good or bad you are at picking. You have a 50/50 shot every game.

Want to buy a subscription cartman?

[Schmidty]

And TroyF is ready to ponce.................

[cthomer5000]

I've been similarly down on Seattle all year long, but luckily not betting against them.

[Desnudo]

There used to be a scam that went like this:

A guy would get a mailing list of say, 10,000 names. He would send out "betting guides" randomly to people with a can't miss pick for a game that weekend. To half of the people, he would send that Team A would win, to the other half that Team B would win. The next week, he would do the same thing, except he only used the names off of the list where he made the right choice. To half the remaining people he sent another can't miss pick with Team A, the other half team B. He kept this narrowing down process until about week 8, when he had a couple of hundred people convinced he really could pick games. He then would offer to sell them a subscription to his betting guide for the rest of the season. Without fail, he'd get around 100 people to sign up this way.

So you think he's posting Steelers Overrated threads over on OOTP?

[Travis]

I'm still trying to fathom how you think Seattle is overrated when they're the underdogs against the 6 seed. I honestly thought when I originally heard the line on the game that we'd see a thread more along the lines of, "FINALLY THE SEAHAWKS AREN'T OVERRATED!"

So out of curiosity, what would the line have to be for you to feel that they aren't overrated anymore? 10, 15 or is it more? Seriously dude, I just don't understand who you figure is overrating this team right now.

[dawgfan]

I think I've figured it out - astrosfan64 = Skip Bayless

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=seahawks/debate

[sterlingice]

I was about to post a link to that story.

I'm kindof a silent believer in the thought that Seattle is also somewhat overrated but if Skip Bayless feels the same way then I know I'm wrong. It's time for me to start giving them some respect because the next time he's right about, well, anything, will be the first.

SI

[TroyF]

I'm still trying to fathom how you think Seattle is overrated when they're the underdogs against the 6 seed. I honestly thought when I originally heard the line on the game that we'd see a thread more along the lines of, "FINALLY THE SEAHAWKS AREN'T OVERRATED!"

So out of curiosity, what would the line have to be for you to feel that they aren't overrated anymore? 10, 15 or is it more? Seriously dude, I just don't understand who you figure is overrating this team right now.


He just said that if Big Ben went down he wouldn't change his bet.

He took an Eagle team to beat them with backups starting at QB. After they lost 41-0, he still thinks Seattle sucks.

I don't think you'll see a Seahawks underrated post by him if they were about to play the Texans and the Texans were 72 point favorites.

[Ben E Lou]

I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm far too emotionally tied to this one to be remotely objective.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

[Bee]

I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm far too emotionally tied to this one to be remotely objective.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

I hope Mack Strong scores the winning touchdown too. :D

[Ben E Lou]

I hope Mack Strong scores the winning touchdown too. :DI'd probably pee in my pants.

[Travis]

If the Seahawks win on Sunday by way of some sort of last second heroics and I don't happen to post here by Monday, well, it's been nice sharing a little section of cyberspace with you all and know I went out one very happy football fan.

[Crapshoot]

4 years in the burgh - Go Steelers!

[albionmoonlight]

Here we go Steelers, Here We Go!

[JPhillips]

I can't say I'm pro-Seattle, but as a Bengals fan nothing would please me more than seeing Joey Porter on the sidelines crying as the clock winds down on a Pittsburgh loss.

[cartman]

I think I've figured it out - astrosfan64 = Skip Bayless

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=seahawks/debate

You'd think after his Rose Bowl predicition that ole Skip would have entered a self-imposed quiet period. Guess not. :)

[astrosfan64]

You'd think after his Rose Bowl predicition that ole Skip would have entered a self-imposed quiet period. Guess not. :)

I took Texas straight up in the Rose Bowl. :)

[Desnudo]

You'd think after opening his mouth that ole Skip would have forceably entered exile. Guess not. :)

Well said.

[cartman]

Here's an article on the Super Bowl and point spreads.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/superbowlpreview/2002776886_bethistory02.html

Odds and ends: History of Super Bowl betting

Maybe Seahawks fans should be happy their team is a four-point underdog for Sunday's game. The underdog has covered the point spread the past four years, including twice when it won the game. This is the longest streak by the underdog or favorite during the 39 years of the Super Bowl. The underdog is 17-19-3 lifetime against the spread but is 6-2-2 since 1996. Twelve times the underdog has won the game outright. Eighteen of the 19 times the favorite covered, it won by at least 10 points, and the average winning margin was an astounding three touchdowns (20.8 points). Here is a historical look at the Super Bowl point spread:


Year Score Favorite Point-spread winner The game from the gambler's view
2005 New England 24, Philadelphia 21 Pats 7 Philadelphia (underdog) Eagles scored on a 30-yard pass with 1:48 remaining to cover spread.
2004 New England 32, Carolina 29 Pats 7 Carolina (underdog) Pats led 21-10 early in 4th but ended up kicking a "losing FG" to break a 29-29 tie.
2003 Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21 Raiders 3 ½ Tampa Bay (underdog) The Raiders led 3-0 before Bucs scored 34 straight points.
2002 New England 20, St. Louis 17 Rams 14 New England (underdog) Field goal in final second but point-spread players didn't care as this one was over early.
2001 Baltimore 34, N.Y. Giants 7 Ravens 3 Baltimore (favorite) Ravens, in their first Super Bowl , dominated from the start.
2000 St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16 Rams 7 Push Titans' Kevin Dyson tackled on the 1-yard line as time expired, making it a push.
1999 Denver 34, Atlanta 19 Broncos 7 ½ Denver (favorite) Broncos improved a 17-6 halftime score to 31-6 early in the fourth quarter.
1998 Denver 31, Green Bay 24 Packers 12 Denver (underdog) One of the best Super Bowls to watch, but a dud if you spotted Denver a 12-0 lead.
1997 Green Bay 35, New England 21 Packers 14 Push Holmgren went for 2 after going up 33-21 in the third; Pack fans celebrated a push.
1996 Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17 Cowboys 13 ½ Pittsburgh (underdog) Cowboys jumped to a 13-0 lead, but it was 20-17 midway through the third.
1995 San Francisco 49, San Diego 26 49ers 18 San Francisco (favorite) S.F. was up 18 at the half and scored two more TDs to start the second half.
1994 Dallas 30, Buffalo 13 Cowboys 10 ½ Dallas (favorite) Dallas scored the final 24 points and was up 27-13 with 10 minutes to go.
1993 Dallas 52, Buffalo 17 Cowboys 6 ½ Dallas (favorite) A cakewalk for the favorite as it was 28-10 at the half.
1992 Washington 37, Buffalo 24 Redskins 7 Washington (favorite) Skins zoomed to 17-0 halftime lead, led 31-10 in the third quarter.
1991 N. Y. Giants 20, Buffalo 19 Bills 7 N.Y. Giants (underdog) Bill fans were mad about the missed FG, but bettors didn't care as Giants covered.
1990 San Francisco 55, Denver 10 49ers 12 San Francisco (favorite) Niners fans were taking candy from a baby as they led 27-3 at the half.
1989 San Francisco 20, Cincinnati 16 49ers 7 Cincinnati (underdog) Cincy FG made it 16-13, and 49ers TD with 34 seconds left didn't hurt Bengals bettors.
1988 Washington 42, Denver 10 Broncos 3 Washington (underdog) Redskins bettors were counting their money at halftime as their team led 35-10.
1987 N. Y. Giants 39, Denver 20 Giants 9 N.Y. Giants (favorite) Giants scored 26 straight points to go up 33-10 early in 4th quarter for an easy cover.
1986 Chicago 46, New England 10 Bears 11 Chicago (favorite) Da-fav delivered with ease; why was the number only 11?
1985 San Francisco 38, Miami 16 49ers 3 San Francisco (favorite) Halftime score was 28-16; midway through the third, the spread was 22.
1984 Oakland 38, Washington 9 Redskins 3 Oakland (underdog) Recovered blocked punt for TD started Raiders runaway.
1983 Washington 27, Miami 17 Dolphins 3 Redskins (underdog) Washington outscored Miami 17-0 in 2nd half, with last TD coming with 2 minutes left.
1982 San Francisco 26, Cincinnati 21 49ers 2 49ers (favorite) Bengals made it interesting, cutting a 20-0 deficit to 20-14 early in the fourth quarter.
1981 Oakland 27, Philadelphia 10 Eagles 3 Oakland (underdog) Fans who plunked down money on the wild-card team had no worries.
1980 Pittsburgh 31, Los Angeles 19 Steelers 11 Pittsburgh (favorite) Leading by 5 in late going, Steelers opted to punch it in for six and a cover!
1979 Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 31 Steelers 4 Push The Boys scored two TDs late to force a push; couldn't go for 2 back then.
1978 Dallas 27, Denver 10 Cowboys 5 Dallas (underdog) Dallas led 13-0 at half and was never threatened the rest of the way.
1977 Oakland 32, Minnesota 14 Raiders 5 Oakland (favorite) Raiders led 16-0 at halftime; Vikings finished 1970s 0-4 vs. spread and on field.
1976 Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17 Steelers 7 Dallas (underdog) Cowboys scored a meaningless TD with 1:48 to play, but bettors were hollering.
1975 Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6 Steelers 3 Pittsburgh (favorite) Steelers TD pass with 3 ½ minutes left gave them the cover.
1974 Miami 24, Minnesota 7 Dolphins 6 Miami (favorite) Csonka ran wild. Vikings bettors zonked by halftime as Miami led 17-0.
1973 Miami 14, Washington 7 Redskins 2 Miami (underdog) Have no idea why the Skins were favored over undefeated Dolphins.
1972 Dallas 24, Miami 3 Cowboys 5 Dallas (favorite) Dallas went up 17-3 in third, turning lights out on Dolphins backers.
1971 Baltimore 16, Dallas 13 Cowboys 1 Baltimore (underdog) Closest spread ever; a FG with 5 seconds left snapped a tie.
1970 Kansas City 23, Minnesota 10 Vikings 10 Kansas City (underdog) Chiefs hustled into locker room with 16-0 halftime lead.
1969 N. Y. Jets 16, Baltimore 7 Colts 17 N.Y. Jets (underdog) Namath guaranteed a win, but Jets bettors were also getting 17.
1968 Green Bay 33, Oakland 14 Packers 13 Green Bay (favorite) Packers Starr again for bettors as they led 33-7 early in the 4th quarter.
1967 Green Bay 35, Kansas City 10 Packers 14 Green Bay (favorite) Pack scored third straight TD midway through 4th to make it a 25-point spread.


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[astrosfan64]

One thing about streaks, they always end and those other underdog teams actually had talent.

[Galaxy]

Is astrofans a pro gambler (that is his job) or something? Throws around a lot of money.

[dawgfan]

One thing about streaks, they always end and those other underdog teams actually had talent.
Right. Because the Seahawks certainly don't have any talent...

[astrosfan64]

Is astrofans a pro gambler (that is his job) or something? Throws around a lot of money.

It is a hobby. One that I seem to make money at more often then not. I've explained it in the dynasty thread. Anyway, I start with 50 to 100 dollar cash injections at the start of college football. If I go broke, I inject another 50 to 100 dollars untill I hit my cap of 500 for a year. If I run out of money I start over again next season.