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Swaggs
02-15-2006, 10:07 PM
Free agency begins on March 3rd (I believe).
The ammy draft is April 29-30.
Let's talk about who gets re-signed, where teams need to improve, draft prospects that you have seen play in college, etc.
I will start it off by asking if there are any Colorado or B12 fans out there that have seen Jeremey Bloom play and whether or not he is an NFL calibre receiver/returner?
stevew
02-15-2006, 10:20 PM
I believe there is a lot of speculation that the FA period may be shut down until mid-march. Right now, supposedly you can only pro-rate contracts for 4 seasons, and it would be in everyone's best interest to resolve it so that there could be longer contracts, and more bonus money. All of this comes from one of those Sirius NFL shows.
Kurt Warner signed a three-year, $18 million contract that should be worth between $20 million and $24 million should he perform as he did last season, ESPN.com's John Clayton reported Tuesday. The two-time MVP completed 64.5 percent of his passes and had a quarterback rating of 85.8 in his first season with the Cardinals.
stevew
02-15-2006, 10:45 PM
I notice in the list of 2006 transition and Franchise tag tender amounts, that Offensive linemen, kickers and linebackers are one big "generic" category, and not split up like FOF does. I'm guessing this was a design decision? Also there is no fullback category either. The numbers, if anyone is interested.
Cornerbacks
Franchise tender: $5,893,000
Transition tender: $4,744,000
Defensive ends
Franchise tender: $8,332,000
Transition tender: $7,075,000
Defensive tackles
Franchise tender: $5,656,000
Transition tender: $4,463,000
Linebackers
Franchise tender: $7,169,000
Transition tender: $6,144,000
Safeties
Franchise tender: $4,109,000
Transition tender: $3,592,000
Punters/kickers
Franchise tender: $2,468,000
Transition tender: $2,045,000
Running backs
Franchise tender: $6,085,000
Transition tender: $5,153,000
Quarterbacks
Franchise tender: $8,789,000
Transition tender: $8,327,000
Offensive linemen
Franchise tender: $6,983,000
Transition tender: $6,391,000
Tight ends
Franchise tender: $3,327,000
Transition tender: $2,718,000
Wide Receivers
Franchise tender: $6,172,000
Transition tender: $5,160,000
JonInMiddleGA
02-16-2006, 07:11 AM
Cowboys hire new linebackers coach ... from a high school.
Granted, he's former Patriots linebacker Vincent Brown, who played for Parcells in New England, but it still struck me a little out of the ordinary for someone to go from high school to the pros (maybe it really isn't that unusual, I just don't recall hearing it much).
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/sports/highschool/stories/gwxbrown0216.html
TroyF
02-16-2006, 07:20 AM
Free agency begins on March 3rd (I believe).
The ammy draft is April 29-30.
Let's talk about who gets re-signed, where teams need to improve, draft prospects that you have seen play in college, etc.
I will start it off by asking if there are any Colorado or B12 fans out there that have seen Jeremey Bloom play and whether or not he is an NFL calibre receiver/returner?
Returner, yes.
WR? Not really. I think he'll have an impact somewhere as a return man and an occasional trick play guy, but that's about it. If he develops into a solid WR, I'll be very surprised.
Swaggs
02-16-2006, 09:40 PM
Bloom news from Rotoworld.com:
Olympic skier Jeremy Bloom is planning for the NFL Draft.
Bloom was a punt and kick returner at the University of Colorado, but forfeited his eligibility to persue Olympic skiing. He'll participate in the NFL Scouting Combine and plans to run a sub-4.3 40. He still needs to add about 15 lbs. to his 170-pound frame.
Nothing like gaining 15 lbs and then running a sub-4.3 40. :)
stevew
02-22-2006, 02:43 PM
FOXSports.com has learned that the Colts agreed to terms Wednesday with wide receiver Reggie Wayne on a six-year deal worth nearly $40 million including $13.5 million in bonus money. Wayne was slated to become an unrestricted free agent and his signing now weakens an already extremely weak receiver free agent class.
While the contract terms have been agreed upon by both sides Wayne has not yet officially signed and should as soon as the NFL approves the deal.
The deal also makes him the third highest-paid receiver in the NFL behind teammate Marvin Harrison and Randy Moss. By getting the Wayne deal done the Colts do not have to use the franchise tag on him, a move they were primed to make had they not worked out a new contract. It's unclear whether they will use the tag on free agent running back Edgerrin James, but right now that appears to be unlikely.
Wayne had 83 catches this past season for 1,055 yards and five touchdowns in the Colts' high-powered attack.
Wayne signing makes the FA class weaker at WR.
Also much to the chagrin of a certain strategies moderator.
Jets | Abraham officially named franchise player
Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:17:43 -0800
The New York Jets have announced DE John Abraham has been designated as the team's franchise player for 2006. If Abraham is offered a contract that the Jets do not elect to match, the Jets would receive two first round draft choices in the NFL Draft in return.
Greyroofoo
02-22-2006, 04:08 PM
I wonder how much of the Colts cap is put into Manning, Harrison, and Wayne this year.
DaddyTorgo
02-22-2006, 05:49 PM
Ravens decide not to franchise Jamal Lewis. He will be a FA.
Jets let Ty Law go, among others
Thomkal
02-23-2006, 08:55 AM
I believe there is a lot of speculation that the FA period may be shut down until mid-march. Right now, supposedly you can only pro-rate contracts for 4 seasons, and it would be in everyone's best interest to resolve it so that there could be longer contracts, and more bonus money. All of this comes from one of those Sirius NFL shows.
Kurt Warner signed a three-year, $18 million contract that should be worth between $20 million and $24 million should he perform as he did last season, ESPN.com's John Clayton reported Tuesday. The two-time MVP completed 64.5 percent of his passes and had a quarterback rating of 85.8 in his first season with the Cardinals.
How did I miss this? So my "beloved" Cards are going to suck for another three seasons. Just great.
wade moore
02-23-2006, 09:02 AM
I mentioned this to cthomer on AIM...
I heard on Kornheiser yesterday that there are talks between the Jets and the Redskins in a deal that would involve Abraham and Patrick Ramsey...
Desnudo
02-23-2006, 12:49 PM
February 23, 2006
Lewis likes Pats
Ravens running back Jamal Lewis, who has been informed he won’t be hit with the franchise tag -- thus making him a free agent -- told the Baltimore Sun in Thursday editions that the Patriots are one of four teams he’s interested in joining for a fresh start.
The Cardinals, Packers and Steelers are the other teams.
The Patriots have Corey Dillon, Kevin Faulk, Patrick Pass and Earl Charles under contract at running back for 2006.
rkmsuf
02-23-2006, 12:50 PM
February 23, 2006
Lewis likes Pats
Ravens running back Jamal Lewis, who has been informed he won’t be hit with the franchise tag -- thus making him a free agent -- told the Baltimore Sun in Thursday editions that the Patriots are one of four teams he’s interested in joining for a fresh start.
The Cardinals, Packers and Steelers are the other teams.
The Patriots have Corey Dillon, Kevin Faulk, Patrick Pass and Earl Charles under contract at running back for 2006.
Good for Lewis. He hasn't a prayer of playing in NE.
Desnudo
02-23-2006, 12:53 PM
He could add some flavor to the team. Plus I'm sure it's not easy to find cocaine in Foxboro.
rkmsuf
02-23-2006, 12:55 PM
He could add some flavor to the team. Plus I'm sure it's not easy to find cocaine in Foxboro.
He's a people person.
Swaggs
02-23-2006, 01:00 PM
I doubt the Steelers will come anwhere near Lewis. They have cap problems of their own and generally don't mess with guys that have had problems outside football.
flere-imsaho
02-23-2006, 01:03 PM
Packers for Lewis.
Honolulu_Blue
02-23-2006, 01:03 PM
The Lions have applied the franchise tag to Backus. A solid move.
Desnudo
02-23-2006, 01:04 PM
I predict Cardinals out of that group.
sachmo71
02-23-2006, 01:10 PM
Why does Lewis think the Pats would even be interested in him? And how the fudge can the Colts field a team with the money they have tied up in the big 4?
ISiddiqui
02-23-2006, 01:33 PM
Remember Corey Dillon wasn't exactly a saint in Cincy. Lewis may be thinking they can do the same thing for him.
Fonzie
02-23-2006, 01:42 PM
The Packers have historically avoided "character problem" players, but it remains to be seen how much of a concern that'll be for their new GM. If he comes cheap he'd be worth a flier, I suppose.
I think the Cardinals are the most likely destination, though.
rkmsuf
02-23-2006, 01:45 PM
Can the Pats sign Vinatieri please.
Swaggs
02-23-2006, 01:50 PM
Can the Pats sign Vinatieri please.
Yeah... I was wondering about that, too.
Two of the best kickers in history, Vanderjagt and Vinatieri, are free agents. Pretty hard to believe.
rkmsuf
02-23-2006, 01:51 PM
Yeah... I was wondering about that, too.
Two of the best kickers in history, Vanderjagt and Vinatieri, are free agents. Pretty hard to believe.
Vandercrap isn't even in the same zip code.
stevew
02-23-2006, 02:02 PM
Vandershank the idiot kicker.
TazFTW
02-23-2006, 02:06 PM
The Cowboys will take either of them.
rkmsuf
02-23-2006, 02:07 PM
that's why NE needs to be aggressive and get Vinatieri signed. make him the highest paid kicker over rackers at 1.8.
WSUCougar
02-23-2006, 02:18 PM
Any chance the Pats will franchise Vinatieri? (I think they've done that before)
And, just my two bits, but Kurt Warner isn't the reason the Cardinals suck.
rkmsuf
02-23-2006, 02:21 PM
Any chance the Pats will franchise Vinatieri? (I think they've done that before)
And, just my two bits, but Kurt Warner isn't the reason the Cardinals suck.
No because of rules about mandatory raises or something. I think they end up with him at 3 million and change for 2006 if they do that. Too much.
They could work something out to pay him 2-2.5 per over 6 years I would think. It's odd that this has dragged out for a year now.
jeff061
02-23-2006, 02:47 PM
The Colts are out of their mind. I know Wayne is a good reciever, but with Harrison and Manning they could sign some low price chump and build him up near Wayne's level in a couple years.
How much money are they going to blow on their offense and when's the crash?
JeeberD
02-23-2006, 02:51 PM
The Cowboys will take either of them.
Please, lord, let it happen!
Daimyo
02-23-2006, 03:47 PM
I don't think that's such a bad deal for Wayne... he's actually outplayed Harrison pretty often over the last two years. I think he's the real deal. I'm not sure how they'll make room for Freeney's deal next offseason though...
Cuckoo
02-23-2006, 03:53 PM
Please, lord, let it happen!
I think this is one of those things nearly every Cowboys fan agrees on.
Greyroofoo
02-23-2006, 03:56 PM
The Colts are out of their mind. I know Wayne is a good reciever, but with Harrison and Manning they could sign some low price chump and build him up near Wayne's level in a couple years.
How much money are they going to blow on their offense and when's the crash?
Before Wayne came into his own, every Colts fan wondered when the Colts would get a 2nd receiver. They had been waiting for Wayne for a long while.
jeff061
02-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Well, he payed off great for a couple years, but you can't afford to keep two #1 receivers and a Peyton Manning while looking to compete beyond another couple years. Anyone out there do a cap breakdown for the Colts? Maybe the reality is not as bad as the perception.
I don't think that's such a bad deal for Wayne... he's actually outplayed Harrison pretty often over the last two years. I think he's the real deal. I'm not sure how they'll make room for Freeney's deal next offseason though...I think he's earned it, but who do the Colts think is more important right now, Wayne or Freeney? That may ultimately be the tradeoff.
TazFTW
02-23-2006, 04:06 PM
The Raiders have declined to franchise Charles Woodson. I wonder how much he'll get on the open market.
Daimyo
02-23-2006, 04:07 PM
I don't think Manning's contract gets out of hand for a few more seasons. Also of note, Edge's $8M salary is off the books next year so they should be okay assuming they take a capable RB in the 1st round. I really don't think they will regret Wayne's contract because I think you have to pay for studs, but I do think they might Stokely's... he's so situational and there are games he barely plays because of the effectiveness of the two TE sets.
Daimyo
02-23-2006, 04:12 PM
Well, he payed off great for a couple years, but you can't afford to keep two #1 receivers and a Peyton Manning while looking to compete beyond another couple years. Anyone out there do a cap breakdown for the Colts? Maybe the reality is not as bad as the perception.
I think he's earned it, but who do the Colts think is more important right now, Wayne or Freeney? That may ultimately be the tradeoff.
I agree that it will be tough, but I can't imagine that Freeney will ever hit the open market. It feels a bit sacrilegious to say it as a Colt's fan, but if I had to choose between Wayne and Harrison right now at their current contracts I'd take Wayne.
The real key to the next few years will be how effectively they replace Edgerrin. If they can pull a guy at 1(30) who can be effective they will be just fine, but if they can't it won't matter how great the WR corps is....
Swaggs
02-23-2006, 04:44 PM
A couple of interesting notes/speculation from rotoworld.com:
The Patriots did not use the franchise tag on Adam Vinatieri.
Either New England is confident they can sign Vinatieri to a long-term deal shortly or they are willing to lose him. He wouldn't last long on the free agent market, especially with Bill Parcells needing a kicker.
Looks like Jeeber's wildest dreams could come true.
The Jets are reportedly interested in trading up with the Saints for the No. 2 pick.
And the smokescreens begin! In this scenario, the Jets would trade up to draft Jay Cutler, thwarting any hope the Titans have to take him. If the Saints were set on Matt Leinart, it wouldn't make sense for them to move.
It would be wildly interesting if Cutler, rather than Lienhart or Young, ended up being the first QB off the board.
WSUCougar
02-23-2006, 08:16 PM
Seahawks tagged Hutchinson, but only with a transition tag. Interesting.
Fonzie
02-23-2006, 08:19 PM
Seahawks tagged Hutchinson, but only with a transition tag. Interesting.
Go get 'im Ted Thompson!
On a side note: I know Hutchinson's cousin. I've been trying to lobby Hutch through her to sign with the Packers.
dawgfan
02-23-2006, 08:53 PM
Go get 'im Ted Thompson!
On a side note: I know Hutchinson's cousin. I've been trying to lobby Hutch through her to sign with the Packers.
Ain't gonna happen - the 'Hawks will match any offers for him.
Vinatieri for Prez
02-23-2006, 08:57 PM
Any chance the Pats will franchise Vinatieri? (I think they've done that before)
And, just my two bits, but Kurt Warner isn't the reason the Cardinals suck.
He's been tagged twice before. But, OMG! The Pats did not franchise him!
http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=15548&pcid=41
He's on the market for god's sake! I sure hope they have something nearly done, because I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. I might even have to change my name, goddammit! (Am I really saying this about a kicker??)
ShovelMonkey
02-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Walsh hired as Raiders' offensive coordinatorBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
The Oakland Raiders reached deep into their past in choosing Art Shell as their new head coach. And now Shell has done the same in selecting his offensive coordinator.
In a move that has been rumored since he replaced Norv Turner as head coach, Shell has hired Tom Walsh to oversee an offense that, despite having plenty of potential playmakers, statistically ranked No. 21 in the league in 2005.
Walsh has not coached in the NFL since 1994, when he was fired, along with Shell, by the Raiders. Walsh hasn't worked at any level of the game since 1999, when he was director of operations and head coach of a minor-league franchise in Mobile, Ala., in 1999. Before that, he was head coach at Idaho State, where he compiled a 6-16 record in two seasons.
That recent idleness aside, Shell has great faith in Walsh, who worked for the Raiders from 1982 to '94, coaching quarterbacks and receivers before being elevated to coordinator. Walsh most recently has operated a bed-and-breakfast ranch and served as mayor of Swan Valley, Idaho.
Oakland's most recently hired coordinator, Jimmy Raye, is a close friend of Shell and the two have worked together in the past. But Raye departed the Raiders to become running backs coach with the New York Jets before Oakland hired Shell as head coach.
The Raiders did retain quarterbacks coach John Shoop, who actually interviewed for the head coach spot with the team, and he figures to have considerable input into the offensive design as well.
Also, as rumored, Shell has added Hall of Fame tackle Jackie Slater as offensive line coach. Slater played 20 seasons in the NFL, with the Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2001. He will work with another former NFL lineman, Irv Eatman, in tutoring the Raiders' blockers.
Former NFL defensive lineman Daryl Sims, who most recently was head coach of the Cologne franchise in the NFL Europe League, was hired as a defensive line assistant.
Len Pasquarelli is ESPN.com's senior NFL writer.
Fonzie
02-23-2006, 09:46 PM
Ain't gonna happen - the 'Hawks will match any offers for him.
Oh I know - but should the unlikely happen and the Packers land him I want to take all the credit. :)
TazFTW
02-24-2006, 06:43 AM
Niners declined to franchise Julian Peterson and the Bills released OT Mike Williams.
The Cowboys could use another OT but according to DallasCowboys.com they might be more interested in signing the recently released Jason Fabini, who is a Parcells' guy. The Cowboys are also looking at former Jet Jerald Sowell as an upgrade at FB. I've heard Williams can play guard and with the rumors of the 'boys making Larry Allen a cap casualty, maybe Mike Williams will return to the state of Texas as a guard. Of course, from what I've heard the problem with Mike Williams is his work ethic and that is something Parcells does not like.
stevew
02-26-2006, 04:05 AM
Profootballtalk.com is not the most reliable place, but i'll post it anyways. This would be amazing if it were true.
A league source tells us that there's a rumor making the rounds at the combine that Texas quarterback Vince Young scored a miserably horrible six on the Wonderlic test.
A six! That's bad. It's beyond bad. In fact, it's the lowest score that we can ever remember hearing anyone getting.
All incoming NFL players take a 50-question version of the Wonderlic, with a 12-minute window within which to finish it.
We found 15 sample Wonderlic questions on ESPN.com's page 2, including such brain-benders as selecting the ninth month of the year from among five possible choices. We'd like to think that most people of average intelligence could get at least six of the 15 sample questions right.
Getting a total of only six out of a total of 50 questions of that same kind is pa-freakin'-thetic. For a guy who's going to be called upon to read defenses and call audibles and work through a progression of receivers against NFL-caliber opposition, it's downright scary.
The source tells us that he hasn't seen the result in writing yet, but that he's "99 percent" certain that Young's score was six.
Said the source, who knows a thing or two about evaluating college players:
"I predict he'll fall all the way out of the first round."
That's a bold statement, and we're not saying that we agree with it -- primarily because our guess is that there's someone almost dumb enough to get a six on the Wonderlic, who'll overlook Young's low score along with any other concerns that might come to light over the next two months.
If he falls out of the first round I'll fall out of my chair.
Bearcat729
02-26-2006, 09:05 AM
They used to say that Akili Smith scored around the single digits on his Wonderlic test and it didn't affect his draft status
Hurst2112
02-26-2006, 09:18 AM
If he falls out of the first round I'll fall out of my chair.
Bah. That's just reading material. He won't fall that far.
Hurst2112
02-26-2006, 09:19 AM
They used to say that Akili Smith scored around the single digits on his Wonderlic test and it didn't affect his draft status
No but it didn't do his career wonders. ;) :D
They used to say that Akili Smith scored around the single digits on his Wonderlic test and it didn't affect his draft statusI don't recall Akili Smith being as dynamic as Vince Young.
Hurst2112
02-26-2006, 09:35 AM
I don't recall Akili Smith being as dynamic as Vince Young.
I don't recall Vince being as ignorant as Smith. Jury is still out on that one.
Terps
02-26-2006, 11:53 AM
The Giants released Barrett Green and Jason Whittle.
yabanci
02-26-2006, 05:11 PM
Funny anecdote:
INDIANAPOLIS - Mathias Kiwanuka figured he could be asked anything at the scouting combine, but this question blew him away.
“Someone brought up Rosevelt Colvin earlier,” the question began. “During the Patriots season, he talked about how much he loves sacks. He doesn’t want tackles or interceptions. He wants sacks. Do you have that kind of feeling on the field?”
Kiwanuka smiled broadly but appeared taken aback.
“Do I think of sex on the field?” he stammered. The room burst into laughter.
His mortified questioner apologized for failing to enunciate through a Boston accent and clarified: sacks, not sex.
“I was wondering where you were going with that,” Kiwanuka said.
http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=128076
Swaggs
02-26-2006, 07:15 PM
More rotoworld tidbits:
Texans GM Charlie Casserly told the NFL Network he's talked to other teams about dealing the No. 1 pick.
Casserly said he "absolutely" would consider dealing the pick, which is the only position that makes sense.
A nice shakeup at the top would make for some good drama. I wonder who is in the market to move up.
Texas A & M QB Reggie McNeal ran an unofficial time of 4.37 at the NFL Scouting Combine.
That's a ridiculous time for a quarterback. McNeal is highly athletic and has a big arm, making him an intriguing mid-level prospect. He's one of our favorite possible second-day selections.
Any B12 fans out there know much about McNeal? He sounds like a Steelers-type of offensive athlete if he has any kind of ball skills whatsoever.
Jeremy Bloom ran an unofficial 4.49 at the NFL Scouting Combine.
Considering he's been training for the Olympics for the last two years, it's an impressive time. Bloom needs to gain weight, but he has a good shot to get drafted as a mid-round draft pick.
Not quite the sub-4.3, but pretty solid. He sounds like he could be an interesting project WR that could return kicks in the mean time.
Swaggs
02-27-2006, 12:36 PM
Maryland TE Vernon Davis ran a 4.38 forty at the NFL Scouting Combine.
At 6'3 and 254 pounds, that is simply freakish speed. He also put up 225 pounds 33 times. Davis was already seen as a top ten pick and this should cement that status. His college production was excellent and the kid can block. Expect his fantasy hype to be through the roof.
Damn!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Terps
02-27-2006, 01:04 PM
Davis is a beast. I think he'll be a top 5 TE this year.
bhlloy
02-27-2006, 02:34 PM
Re. Reggie McNeal - Corey Chavous on the NFL network had him as his top prospect in the entire freaking draft. Chavous is supposed to be as knowledgeable and watch as much tape as a lot of NFL analysts. While I'm not agreeing with him, I don't see him lasting past the first day. At the very least he's Antwaan Randle-El, and potentially he's a poor man's Mike Vick if he can hit the backside of a barn.
Jay Cutler looks like he could be the real deal - he reminds me of Ben Roethlisberger and once he works with NFL coaches to get rid of some of the bad throwing technique I think he will come out as the best QB in the draft. He certainly has the best arm of all the prospects.
The other QB have been very impressed with is Ingle Martin of Furman (originally recruited to compete by UF) He's had the best touch on his throws of all the QB's in my eyes, and had one of the better 40 yard times. I don't know if there is some issues with arm strength, but he looks like a good developmental guyy.
WSUCougar
02-27-2006, 02:52 PM
I recall that before this past college football season one writer tabbed McNeal as a better player than Vince Young.
kentontrace
02-27-2006, 03:00 PM
If Vince Young was that stupid - i'm sure his agent wouldnt have let him take part in anything at the combine.
Mr. Sparkle
02-27-2006, 03:20 PM
I would love to see Vernon Davis in a Niners uniform.
Suburban Rhythm
02-27-2006, 03:33 PM
Re. Reggie McNeal - Corey Chavous on the NFL network had him as his top prospect in the entire freaking draft. Chavous is supposed to be as knowledgeable and watch as much tape as a lot of NFL analysts. While I'm not agreeing with him, I don't see him lasting past the first day. At the very least he's Antwaan Randle-El, and potentially he's a poor man's Mike Vick if he can hit the backside of a barn.
Saw that too about McNeal...Mike Mayock was very kind to Chavous I think when Corey busted out that one.
One thing I found odd...Mayock did not have Chad Jackson in his top 5 WR. Not saying the guy is a definite 1st rounder, but he had Stovall and Avant in over him...
Swaggs
02-27-2006, 06:06 PM
Saw these on another board:
Full Name School Pos 40-1 40-2
Brett Basanez Northwestern QB 4.77 4.79
Kellen Clemens Oregon QB INJ
Brodie Croyle Alabama QB 4.87 5.01
Jay Cutler Vanderbilt QB 4.88 4.83
Bruce Eugene Grambling QB 5.16 5.09
Bruce Gradkowski Toledo QB 4.60 4.61
Darrell Hackney UAB QB 4.89 4.92
Tarvaris Jackson Alabama State QB 4.69 4.65
Omar Jacobs Bowling Green QB 4.88 4.93
Matt Leinart USC QB DNR
Travis Lulay Montana State QB 4.75 4.73
Ingle Martin Furman QB 4.72 4.74
Reggie McNeal Texas A&M QB 4.38 4.43
Erik Meyer Eastern Washington QB 4.72 4.69
Barrick Nealy Texas State QB 4.66 4.70
Drew Olson UCLA QB 5.15 5.15
Paul Pinegar Fresno State QB 5.21 5.27
Quinton Porter Boston College QB 4.75 4.74
Michael Robinson Penn State QB DNR
D.J. Shockley Georgia QB 4.68 4.62
Kent Smith Central Michigan QB 4.66 4.63
Brad Smith Missouri QB 4.45 4.52
Marcus Vick Virginia Tech QB 4.60 4.55
Charlie Whitehurst Clemson QB 4.74 4.72
Vince Young Texas QB DNR
Cuckoo
02-27-2006, 06:15 PM
I recall that before this past college football season one writer tabbed McNeal as a better player than Vince Young.
Not just one, quite a few actually. McNeal was supposed to be this year what Vince actually was this year. Therein lies the problem, though. He has never quite lived up to his potential on any consistent basis. If he does, some NFL team is going to be very happy.
Raiders Army
02-27-2006, 06:20 PM
I recall that before this past college football season one writer tabbed McNeal as a better player than Vince Young.
Read that in TSN.
Swaggs
02-27-2006, 07:06 PM
Some QB/combine info from rotoworld:
ESPN.com's Todd McShay said Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst threw better than anyone at the NFL Combine not named Cutler.
Whitehurst, Brodie Croyle, and Omar Jacobs are all vying to be the fourth quarterback drafted.
Peter King of Sports Illustrated told the Dan Patrick show that Vince Young was completely unprepared to take the Wonderlic test.
We're not talking about unprepared like he didn't practice. We mean unprepared like he didn't know he was going to take it. If anything gets Young to fire his family friends who are acting as his agents, this is it.
Many teams have reportedly already taken Marcus Vick off their draft boards.
Vick did quite well on the field this weekend, but he didn't impress in his press conference or interviews. ESPN.com says he came across as "arrogant" and "smug" in interviews.
bhlloy
02-27-2006, 08:03 PM
Saw that too about McNeal...Mike Mayock was very kind to Chavous I think when Corey busted out that one.
One thing I found odd...Mayock did not have Chad Jackson in his top 5 WR. Not saying the guy is a definite 1st rounder, but he had Stovall and Avant in over him...
Good call on Jackson, I bet Mayock would like to have that list back right now. I remember watching it wondering if the host was going to call him out on it, in his defense it was probably made up that morning before Jackson ran his 4.32.
I think Jackson is pretty close to a definite first rounder also now - see Troy Williamson last year. Some team will pay over the odds for that speed. It will be very interesting to see what Santonio Holmes runs at his pro day, if he runs above 4.45 I could see Jackson being the first WR taken.
Easy Mac
02-27-2006, 09:46 PM
Some notes I've found on QB's:
QBs who threw the ball well on Sunday include Omar Jacobs of Bowling Green, who wasn’t text book but got the ball where it was supposed to be with authority, along with Kellen Clemens of Oregon, Brodie Croyle of Alabama, Barrick Nealy of Texas State, and Drew Olson of UCLA, as well as small school stars Tavaris Jackson of Alabama State, Travis Lulay of Montana State and 6-0, 260-pound Bruce Eugene. Ingle Martin of Furman, a former starter at Florida, was also something of a revelation. Martin got good velocity on his passes, getting them off from a nice high release point; he also showed surprising athleticism, although his release and footwork in the pocket as a little on the lazy side. On the other hand, Brett Basanez of Northwestern, Bruce Gradkowski of Toledo, Paul Pinegar of Fresno State, and Marcus Vick of Virginia Tech appeared to struggle at times with accuracy.
Bolded to pimp my boy Ingle. I would say that's an accurate description after watching him for two years. He's Favre-like in the way he plays (not really talentwise), kind of from the hip, prone to a lot of wow plays, but also a-lot of FU plays.
Where he finished in his group (which included Cutler, Croyle, Jacobs and Basanez, according to reports I have):
40yard dash–2nd, Ball speed–1st, 3-cone–5th, Short Shuttle–3rd, Broad jump–2nd, Vertical jump–2nd
Suburban Rhythm
02-28-2006, 07:35 AM
Good call on Jackson, I bet Mayock would like to have that list back right now. I remember watching it wondering if the host was going to call him out on it, in his defense it was probably made up that morning before Jackson ran his 4.32.
I think Jackson is pretty close to a definite first rounder also now - see Troy Williamson last year. Some team will pay over the odds for that speed. It will be very interesting to see what Santonio Holmes runs at his pro day, if he runs above 4.45 I could see Jackson being the first WR taken.
I absolutely believe the rankings were made up prior. It doesn't bother me that he wasn't first on his list, I fully expected Holmes to be there. But to not even have him in your top 5?
No way the host would call him out either...those guys are better than the ESPN guys (mostly), but still aren't "experts" like Mayock etc are supposed to be.
flere-imsaho
02-28-2006, 08:28 AM
If anyone drafts Vick I can't help but believe that they're going to be making a colossal mistake.
stevew
02-28-2006, 08:48 AM
Salary cap is supposed to be set sometime tomorrow, with it being possibly as high as 105 million, and as low as 93 million. With free agency starting on Friday, and no agreement worked out, something has to give soon.
kentontrace
02-28-2006, 09:45 AM
If anyone drafts Vick I can't help but believe that they're going to be making a colossal mistake.
Depending on where he gets drafted.
If he falls to the 6th or 7th round - I think he'd be a steal for a 'risk' pick. Lets be honest - if he could get his head on straight he could be better than his brother. He has a much better arm.
His problem is that he's been spoiled and nobody has ever put him in his place.
Doug5984
02-28-2006, 10:51 AM
I have been hearing on my Saints boards that the Saints are enamored with Cutler. This could just be a smoke screen, I hope it is. While I agree he might turn out to be pretty good- I think Leinhart is a better player and if we want Cutler we should trade down to 6 or so.
WSUCougar
02-28-2006, 11:00 AM
His problem is that he's been spoiled and nobody has ever put him in his place.
Hey Marcus? Bill Parcells on line 2 for you.
JeeberD
02-28-2006, 11:10 AM
Bzzzzzzzzz! Wrong answer!
Parcells is in the Bucc camp and tends to not like the "athletical" QBs so much...
TazFTW
02-28-2006, 04:07 PM
The talks about a new CBA have broken down. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2348417
Interesting since pretty much every site was reporting that an agreement would be coming within a day or two.
Greyroofoo
02-28-2006, 04:10 PM
If anyone drafts Vick I can't help but believe that they're going to be making a colossal mistake.
And in the 2nd round, the Detroit Lions pick................
(Of course this after taking a receiver in the first round)
pennywisesb
02-28-2006, 04:16 PM
And in the 2nd round, the Detroit Lions pick................
(Of course this after taking a receiver in the first round)
:D
mrsimperless
02-28-2006, 04:33 PM
I think you're going to see a team that already has a starting QB take a chance on Vick in a later roun. If he goes day 1 I'll be shocked.
I wouldn't mind seeing the Colts give him a shot if falls to 6 or 7. It'd give me a reason to use my preseason tickets. Studying under Peyton for a few years might do him wonders, who knows?
I think his main problem will be that he gets drafted low and his ego can't take it. I don't see him sitting on the bench as a backup very long without imploding and reverting back to his child-like ways.
dawgfan
02-28-2006, 04:42 PM
...and reverting back to his child-like ways.
Reverting? What makes you think he's left them? The buzz around Vick is that he's put off a lot of NFL personnel people by displaying a bad attitude.
mrsimperless
02-28-2006, 04:55 PM
He hasn't been accused of rape in a few years. I guess I thought he deserved the benefit of the doubt? :D
I guess what I meant was that if he was drafted by a team like the Colts and actually DID show some humility and learn behind a proven veteran that it probably wouldn't last long. I would love to be able to watch the guy play though. Anywhere.
Vince
02-28-2006, 06:24 PM
San Francisco 49ers – The 49ers won the coin toss with Oakland to determine the owner of the sixth overall selection. They should be in position to take the guy they covet – Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk
Now, I haven't read much about the draft yet, but I can think of about, oh, 22 positions OTHER than LB that the 49ers need more help at. Why in the living hell would they draft another?
Bad-example
02-28-2006, 06:34 PM
Now, I haven't read much about the draft yet, but I can think of about, oh, 22 positions OTHER than LB that the 49ers need more help at. Why in the living hell would they draft another?
Winborn is gone and Smith, Moore and Peterson are free agents, probably gone. They have Ulbrich (coming off an injury) and not much else. Linebacker is a huge position of need for the 49ers. Fortunately, this draft is supposedly rich in LB.
Bad-example
02-28-2006, 07:02 PM
dola
Andre Carter is also a FA, and will be a tough signing because he can play DE and OLB. Saleem Rasheed is a FA and looks like a bust anyway. I think Ulbrich is the only LB currently under contract.
st.cronin
02-28-2006, 07:31 PM
Charlie Whitehurst is considered an NFL prospect? Really? Wow.
Vince
02-28-2006, 11:47 PM
I need to pull my head out of my ass. I knew Peterson was gone, but I didn't know that Smith, Winborn and Carter were gone as well. Yikes.
RendeR
02-28-2006, 11:57 PM
I have to say, after watching a bunch of Big Ten games this year I really love Basanez, he can be a little erratic at times, but he has the ability to rally his players and get them to play better when its crunch time. I think he may well be the surprise guy in this Draft at QB.
I pegged Rothlesboinker as a star QB when he came out...My wife still cringes when I say "Just trade up ONE spot...its all they had to do..."
I think Brett will be a team changing player.
st.cronin
02-28-2006, 11:59 PM
I have to say, after watching a bunch of Big Ten games this year I really love Basanez, he can be a little erratic at times, but he has the ability to rally his players and get them to play better when its crunch time. I think he may well be the surprise guy in this Draft at QB.
I pegged Rothlesboinker as a star QB when he came out...My wife still cringes when I say "Just trade up ONE spot...its all they had to do..."
I think Brett will be a team changing player.
I think he could be a good player, too. I was really impressed with him at times. Smart qb.
kingfc22
03-01-2006, 12:28 AM
Now, I haven't read much about the draft yet, but I can think of about, oh, 22 positions OTHER than LB that the 49ers need more help at. Why in the living hell would they draft another?Please don't draft another OSU player. We all saw how Ahmed Plummer turned out.http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
TazFTW
03-01-2006, 07:09 AM
Thursday could be interesting as teams will have to be under the cap.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2348970
How drastic? There continue to be rumors the Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was), who extended numerous contracts in the past to deal with previous cap crunches, could have to play with 20 rookies on the roster in 2006. On Tuesday night in Atlanta, there were rumblings the Falcons, who aren't in nearly the dire straits some other franchises are, might be forced to release tailback Warrick Dunn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3893), who rushed for a career best 1,416 yards in 2005. The Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan) could part ways with perennial Pro Bowl guard Will Shields (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2445) if he doesn't agree to adjust his contract and reduce a $6.67 million cap charge. And that is just the start of the many examples of potential attrition cited by team officials Tuesday evening.
Watching Mike and Mike on ESPN2 and they've been showing a list as to who may be cut Thursday. It listed names like Favre, Pennington, Lavar Arrington, Dominick Davis, Chris McAlister, Daunte Culpepper, TO, Derrick Brooks, Steve McNair, Simeon Rice, and Jimmy Smith.
JeeberD
03-01-2006, 10:22 AM
Winborn is gone and Smith, Moore and Peterson are free agents, probably gone. They have Ulbrich (coming off an injury) and not much else. Linebacker is a huge position of need for the 49ers. Fortunately, this draft is supposedly rich in LB.
Just stay the hell away from Thomas Howard...
TazFTW
03-01-2006, 04:36 PM
The cuts, they are a coming.
Denver releases Jeb Putzier, Mike Anderson, and Trevor Pryce. Bills released Sam Adams and the Panthers release Stephen Davis, Brentson Buckner, and He Hate Me.
stevew
03-01-2006, 04:41 PM
Just stay the hell away from Thomas Howard...
He might look good in black and gold, as long as we can cut that other useless Miner for good.
Swaggs
03-01-2006, 04:55 PM
The cuts, they are a coming.
Denver releases Jeb Putzier, Mike Anderson, and Trevor Pryce. Bills released Sam Adams and the Panthers release Stephen Davis, Brentson Buckner, and He Hate Me.
Is Anderson retiring or have a huge bonus due or something?
I thought he was held in pretty high regard by the Broncos.
TazFTW
03-01-2006, 05:16 PM
Is Anderson retiring or have a huge bonus due or something?
I thought he was held in pretty high regard by the Broncos.I haven't heard anything about him retiring and his cap number ($2.5 mil) was pretty reasonable. Maybe the Broncos were worried about having a 33 year old RB. You also have the legacy of their system and they could think about drafting a replacement in the 5th or 6th round. They still have Tatum Bell and Ron Dayne.
Bills release Lawyer Milloy and Mark Campbell.
Mark Brunell has restructured his contract.
[edit]Dolphins release CB Sam Madison.
Titans release OT Brad Hopkins.
JeeberD
03-01-2006, 10:43 PM
He might look good in black and gold, as long as we can cut that other useless Miner for good.
That's fine with me, just as long as he doesn't become a stinkin' 49er (or Redskin, or Giant, or Eagle)...
RendeR
03-01-2006, 10:54 PM
Wow, did this offseason just turn into a seriously ugly cut day or what? I gotta pay more attention...The Bengals could find some serious studs to help the defense out this year...and we're already under the cap. Whooot.
Greyroofoo
03-02-2006, 12:52 AM
Colts re-sign Gary Brackett
And for some reason I love this quote from Brackett's agent
"It's a winning team and,<b> coming from Rutgers, he understands how hard it is to play for a team that's not winning</b>. He's looking forward to winning a Super Bowl."
Vinatieri for Prez
03-02-2006, 01:25 AM
Colts re-sign Gary Brackett
And for some reason I love this quote from Brackett's agent
"It's a winning team and, coming from Rutgers, he understands how hard it is to play for a team that's not winning. He's looking forward to winning a Super Bowl."
He should have signed somewhere else then.
stevew
03-02-2006, 03:19 PM
Colts could very well be fuct.
Colts | Ruling impacts team's salary cap status
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 06:10:53 -0800
Mike Chappell, of the Indianapolis Star, reports a ruling Wednesday, March 1, by an NFL arbitrator specifically regarding the contracts of QB Peyton Manning and WR Marvin Harrison could result in several significant player cuts by the Indianapolis Colts as they attempt to comply with the league's projected 2006 salary cap of $95 million. At issue, for now, are roster bonuses of $9 million due Manning and $10 million due Harrison. The Colts intended to implement a normal bookkeeping maneuver that converts a roster bonus into a signing bonus and prorating it over the next four years. That would have lowered Manning's 2006 cap number from $17.766 million to $10 million and Harrison's cap hit from $14.4 million to $6.9 million. The lack of an extension carries restrictive guidelines regarding player contracts, including the conversion of roster bonuses. According to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, arbitrator Stephen Burbank ruled such conversions are prohibited under the labor agreement if they violate the so-called "30 percent rule,'' which keeps base salaries from increasing more than 30 percent each year over the first year of the contract. It's believed a special master's ruling is final, but Colts' owner Jim Irsay said the issue is far from resolved.
TazFTW
03-02-2006, 04:04 PM
The NFL is delaying free agency three days, which means the 10 PM deadline tonight is now 10 PM Sunday. No more Bloody Thursday. :(
Swaggs
03-02-2006, 04:38 PM
The NFL is delaying free agency three days, which means the 10 PM deadline tonight is now 10 PM Sunday. No more Bloody Thursday. :(
They just want to use U2 for the soundtrack.
I'm not sure what I think about moving the deadline back. I imagine some teams have made cuts with the previous deadline in mind.
AlexB
03-02-2006, 04:38 PM
The NFL is delaying free agency three days, which means the 10 PM deadline tonight is now 10 PM Sunday. No more Bloody Thursday. :(
:( What about those teams that cut players in anticipation of the standard Thursday deadline? I know the Dolphins didn't want to restructure Sammy's contract, but $3.42 for him seems a reasonable price that if they had the extra $10m room I'm sure he would have stayed at least for now...
A team spokesman said all the cuts were motivated primarily by
economics and meeting the salary cap rather than the organization being
unhappy with any player's individual performance.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
TazFTW
03-02-2006, 10:45 PM
:( What about those teams that cut players in anticipation of the standard Thursday deadline? I know the Dolphins didn't want to restructure Sammy's contract, but $3.42 for him seems a reasonable price that if they had the extra $10m room I'm sure he would have stayed at least for now...
A team spokesman said all the cuts were motivated primarily by
economics and meeting the salary cap rather than the organization being
unhappy with any player's individual performance.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I don't know. I saw Chris Mortensen earlier on SportsCenter and he said that because of the delay of free agency, teams that cut players on Thursday could have those revoked.
Swaggs
03-02-2006, 11:01 PM
I don't know. I saw Chris Mortensen earlier on SportsCenter and he said that because of the delay of free agency, teams that cut players on Thursday could have those revoked.
"No hard feelings guys." :)
Fonzie
03-02-2006, 11:11 PM
I don't know. I saw Chris Mortensen earlier on SportsCenter and he said that because of the delay of free agency, teams that cut players on Thursday could have those revoked.
So the NFL is going to use the "Save/Reload" cheat?
Dude, it's all in the .ini file.
Cuckoo
03-03-2006, 08:08 AM
Cowboys cut La'Roi Glover.
As a Dallas fan, that's really too bad. It makes sense because of the money he was owed and his diminished role in the 3-4, but he's the kind of player you just don't want to lose.
JeeberD
03-03-2006, 09:42 AM
:(
La'Roi will be missed. Hell of a player and hell of a good guy...
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:17 AM
Cowboys cut La'Roi Glover.
As a Dallas fan, that's really too bad. It makes sense because of the money he was owed and his diminished role in the 3-4, but he's the kind of player you just don't want to lose.
Dear God, please send an angel to overtake Mike Brown's body and offer a large check to La'Roi Glover.
Amen
Oh, and I want a pony
JPhillips
03-03-2006, 11:21 AM
Scooper: I'm hoping for Sam Adms. He's the big run stuffer we need and he has said publicly that he wants to play for Marvin.
When was the last time a free agent lobbied to get to Cinci?
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Scooper: I'm hoping for Sam Adams. He's the big run stuffer we need and he has said publicly that he wants to play for Marvin.
When was the last time a free agent lobbied to get to Cinci?
How about cutting Thornton and signing both? (pipe dream, I know)
I like Shaun Smith, that would make for a nice DT rotation.
JPhillips
03-03-2006, 11:30 AM
I also hope we can get one of the many safties on the market. I doubt we can afford Archuleta or Hope, but Chavous or Dexter Jackson would be a big upgrade and a nice compliment to M. Williams.
RendeR
03-03-2006, 11:31 AM
How about cutting Thornton and signing both? (pipe dream, I know)
I like Shaun Smith, that would make for a nice DT rotation.
I love this idea. Thornton is a good guy but he's a fucking pussy on the field. he gets his ass handed to him by second rate O-linemen.
I'm loving the fact that so many bigtime D-line guys are out there. What about Brentson Buckner? He always got good press in Carolina, is he worth bringing into the jungle?
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:32 AM
If not, this is a very strong safety draft. Finding another Madieu to go with signing one of those DT's would go a long way toward fixing this defense.
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:33 AM
I love this idea. Thornton is a good guy but he's a fucking pussy on the field. he gets his ass handed to him by second rate O-linemen.
I'm loving the fact that so many bigtime D-line guys are out there. What about Brentson Buckner? He always got good press in Carolina, is he worth bringing into the jungle?
Buckner's the oldest of the bunch, you have to consider that. And the fact that was was often surrounded by the best DL in the league.
JPhillips
03-03-2006, 11:36 AM
I'd love to sign a starting SS and draft a guy that can replace Kaes. He's a great energy guy, but he always seems to be chasing guys from behind.
If I was in charge I'd go for Adams and Dexter Jackson and get a backup CB, S and WR in the draft.
RendeR
03-03-2006, 11:37 AM
Buckner's the oldest of the bunch, you have to consider that. And the fact that was was often surrounded by the best DL in the league.
Ahh, I've no idea how old any of them are. I know Sam's getting up there but he's still a monster in the middle of the defense, and with our ends being strong I think adding him would be a huge move towards locking down the run game.
A second quality safetey to compliment Medieu would definitely be a good thing. Just not sure how many guys we have the room to sign, and remember the deals at thise point can't be real long term either because of all the political BS going on in the league.
JPhillips
03-03-2006, 11:39 AM
According to what I've reead we have between 4-5 mil for free agents. That should be plenty for a safety and a DT as long as we don't go after the top guys at those positions.
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:41 AM
I'd love to sign a starting SS and draft a guy that can replace Kaes. He's a great energy guy, but he always seems to be chasing guys from behind.
If I was in charge I'd go for Adams and Dexter Jackson and get a backup CB, S and WR in the draft.
Kaes will stick around for his versatility. He can play any spot in a pinch and at times is very opportunistic. What's needed is a replacement for OhIhatetotackle. I'd not be surprised is Madieu and Kaes are the only holdovers at safety, other than the practice squad guys.
Nice thing about Madieu is, he'll almost be like adding a free agent this year. He lost most of last season.
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:42 AM
According to what I've reead we have between 4-5 mil for free agents. That should be plenty for a safety and a DT as long as we don't go after the top guys at those positions.
Never go by Hobson's "woe is us" cap number. Marvin has said in the past-the cap is fluid. There are some guys currently taking up space that won't be around next year.
JPhillips
03-03-2006, 11:44 AM
Scooper: Of course, but we have to start somewhere. As it stands we have 4-5 mil available outside of any current contracts. I don't think that's a woe is us number when most of the NFL is over the cap.
scooper
03-03-2006, 11:46 AM
Also consider that an experienced QB has to be signed with that space, be it Kitna or somebody else.
Fonzie
03-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Oh, and I want a pony
Me too. And her name shall be Princess.
Swaggs
03-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Tommy Maddox and Willie Williams get the axe from Pittsburgh.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2352987
They both had some good years in the black and gold, but neither had much left in the tank.
TazFTW
03-03-2006, 08:15 PM
From ESPN's FAQ about the labor dispute
What happens if a team doesn't comply with the salary cap?
No team has ever gone over the salary cap, so this is a bit of an unknown. However, teams have been fined in the past for attempts to circumvent the cap. ESPN.com contributor and former Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) GM Rick Spielman says NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue has wide latitude in fining teams -- and even individual team executives -- or stripping draft picks for failure to comply with the salary cap.
With some teams in dire cap shape, we could see sooner than later just how wide the commissioner's latitude is. The Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) are one team to watch in this regard, since some other clubs that have studied the Redskins' cap closely have suggested Washington cannot mathematically get into compliance.
If the Redskins cannot get under the cap, Tags should take away draft picks.
TazFTW
03-05-2006, 07:04 PM
Jets cut Mawae and are able to restructure Pennington's deal.
TazFTW
03-05-2006, 07:45 PM
Kerry Collins has been cut by the Raiders and the Bucs have restructured Derrick Brooks' deal.
Craptacular
03-05-2006, 10:02 PM
Packers re-sign Ahman Green for one-year, $3 million base, plus up to $2 million in incentives. Seems like a good deal for both sides.
Craptacular
03-05-2006, 10:05 PM
ESPN News is reporting that Shaun Alexander agreed to an eight-year, 60-something million dollar contract with a pretty significant portion of that guaranteed.
edit: Obviously, since it's before midnight eastern, it was with Seattle.
Craptacular
03-05-2006, 10:08 PM
More news: The start of free agency has been pushed back another 72 hours to 12:01 AM Thursday.
TazFTW
03-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Isaac Bruce has been released.
TazFTW
03-05-2006, 10:36 PM
Ack, now John Clayton on ESPNEWS has said that because of the delay of FA, teams can again rescind cuts made. He mentioned Kerry Collins and Isaac Bruce specifically.
Fonzie
03-05-2006, 11:18 PM
Ack, now John Clayton on ESPNEWS has said that because of the delay of FA, teams can again rescind cuts made. He mentioned Kerry Collins and Isaac Bruce specifically.
This is really getting silly.
TazFTW
03-05-2006, 11:19 PM
Don't know if this will stick but the Redskins have waived LaVar Arrington.
Fonzie
03-05-2006, 11:22 PM
Packers re-sign Ahman Green for one-year, $3 million base, plus up to $2 million in incentives. Seems like a good deal for both sides.
I'm glad they got Ahman back, but $3 million seems like a bit much for a guy coming off a serious leg injury. Add to that the fact that Ahman looked to be slowing down before the injury, and I kinda wonder what TT is thinking.
Fonzie
03-05-2006, 11:23 PM
Packers re-sign Ahman Green for one-year, $3 million base, plus up to $2 million in incentives. Seems like a good deal for both sides.
dola-
I saw those numbers reversed on JSOnline.com. $2million in base, $3 million in incentives. That's a bit better, but TT might still be overpaying a tad.
TazFTW
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
Don't know if this will stick but the Redskins have waived LaVar Arrington.
More on this is that according to Mort, Arrington is giving the Redskins $4 million to release him.
EagleFan
03-05-2006, 11:56 PM
Don't know if this will stick but the Redskins have waived LaVar Arrington.
I keep seeing a Seinfeld episode in my head when I read this.
Is there a chance that Arrington won't "turn his key"?
:D
EagleFan
03-05-2006, 11:58 PM
More on this is that according to Mort, Arrington is giving the Redskins $4 million to release him.
Okay, that's just too damn funny.
"What will it take? Here's 4 million dollars. Please let me off this God forsaken team."
RendeR
03-06-2006, 12:13 AM
Wow, just wow, the NFL is going to shit in a handbasket....
Mawae and Arrington would be some damn fine additions in Cincy, I'd love to snag at least one of the roadblock type DT's too.
This is gonna get ugly before its over.
WSUCougar
03-06-2006, 09:08 AM
Shaun Alexander signed a long-term deal with the Seahawks.
Honolulu_Blue
03-06-2006, 11:13 AM
Apparently the Eagles are going to cut Mike McMahon and Whatever Detmer they have and bring in Jeff Garcia as their back-up quarterback.
Hmm, release McMahon and replace him with Garcia... Hmm... Where have we seen this before?
His amazingly hot girlfriend aside, Jeff Garcia is a bitch. He was a bitch in Cleveland and remained a bitch in Detroit. He was an irritating personality and he sucked on the field. Good luck with him, Philly. Hope that McNabb's sports hernia thing is all healed up. I imagine Garcia is an improvement over McMahon and Detmer, but not a significant one. He's a bitch.
TazFTW
03-06-2006, 05:04 PM
Rams | Glover signed
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:52:30 -0800
ESPNews reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/34/nfl">St. Louis Rams have signed free agent DT La'Roi Glover (http://www.kffl.com/player/502/nfl) (Cowboys) to a three-year deal. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
If FA hasn't started yet, how can the above happen?
Vince
03-06-2006, 05:07 PM
Apparently the Eagles are going to cut Mike McMahon and Whatever Detmer they have and bring in Jeff Garcia as their back-up quarterback.
Hmm, release McMahon and replace him with Garcia... Hmm... Where have we seen this before?
His amazingly hot girlfriend aside, Jeff Garcia is a bitch. He was a bitch in Cleveland and remained a bitch in Detroit. He was an irritating personality and he sucked on the field. Good luck with him, Philly. Hope that McNabb's sports hernia thing is all healed up. I imagine Garcia is an improvement over McMahon and Detmer, but not a significant one. He's a bitch.
I've never understood why people can't stand Jeff Garcia. While he was a 49er, he was fine. Though I guess with an asshole like T.O. on the team, it's easy to overlook Garcia.
There's some joke involving the Team America speech about Dicks, Pussies and Assholes in here, and I just can't put it together.
Honolulu_Blue
03-06-2006, 05:25 PM
I've never understood why people can't stand Jeff Garcia. While he was a 49er, he was fine. Though I guess with an asshole like T.O. on the team, it's easy to overlook Garcia.
There's some joke involving the Team America speech about Dicks, Pussies and Assholes in here, and I just can't put it together.
As a 49er, he seemed fine. I even thought that the Cleveland thing was just a good guy in a bad situation. I was initially excited by his hire. I wanted to like him, I really did. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Then, as the year played out in Detroit, his asshole-i-tutde and bitchiness started showing through more and more. He whined and moaned and was always pointing the finger. He came across like a jack-ass during interviews. It was very unseemly.
It's pretty rare that I dislike any athlete who plays for one of the teams I like. I tend to give players quite a bit of leeway and I'm not the type to blame all of a team's woes on one guy (see, eg, Joey Harrington or any Red Wings goalie), but there are a handful of players who have rubbed me the wrong way and just come across like jack-asses. Garcia was one of them.
Desnudo
03-06-2006, 05:33 PM
Colts could very well be fuct.
Is that like screwed and duct taped?
TazFTW
03-06-2006, 05:36 PM
Kiper's newest 1st round mock has the Cowboys selecting WR Chad Jackson out of Florida. Not sure about that pick as the Cowboys have more pressing needs.
I liked his previous mock as he had the 'boys picking Jimmy Williams out of V. Tech. He can play corner or safety, which is what the Cowboys need.
Bad-example
03-06-2006, 09:03 PM
Derek Smith signed a 3 year extension with the 49ers. Glad to see him coming back.
Craptacular
03-06-2006, 09:20 PM
dola-
I saw those numbers reversed on JSOnline.com. $2million in base, $3 million in incentives. That's a bit better, but TT might still be overpaying a tad.I wouldn't even be concerned with the 3 base, 2 incentives deal. With Henderson, Davenport, and Fisher all going to be FAs in a few days (or weeks at this pace), I think he's worth the risk. If he's not able to perform close to the level he did before, $2 or $3 mill is not a HUGE problem. If he does, the Packers will have a chance to lock him up for a few more years. Ahman wants to be a Packer. This gives both sides a "feeler" year. Even though he'll be 30 next year, if he proves he's "back", someone will give him a decent short-term contract, especially if '07 is uncapped. I'll just be interested to see what the Packers do now with the rest of the RBs, or if they draft somebody like LenDale White. Despite his injury, I think Davenport might get some good offers and be gone. Hopefully they can keep Fisher and Henderson.
EagleFan
03-06-2006, 09:24 PM
Derek Smith signed a 3 year extension with the 49ers. Glad to see him coming back.
Poor guy, my thoughts and prayers got out to him.
TazFTW
03-09-2006, 07:37 AM
Willie McGinest has been cut.
<TABLE width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD bgColor=#343053 colSpan=3>Willie McGinest - LB - NE (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NFL&id=1155) - Mar. 9 - 8:35 am et </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>The Patriots have decided to release 12-year veteran linebacker Willie McGinest.
There is still a decent chance McGinest will return and there was no way he was coming back with an $8.3 million cap figure. The Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys are expected to show interest. Mar. 9 - 8:35 am et
Source: Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2006/03/09/patriots_cut_ties_with_mcginest/)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
jeff061
03-09-2006, 08:08 AM
Will be interesting to see what hapens with McGinest with Saban and Romeo all hot for him.
Not to mention Parcells and the Chargers(he's a CA guy).
RendeR
03-09-2006, 12:09 PM
Anyone got a link to a updated list of FA's on the market? with all the cuts and withdrawels of cuts I have no clue who's actually out there now.
Desnudo
03-09-2006, 12:15 PM
Willie McGinest has been cut.
<TABLE width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD bgColor=#343053 colSpan=3>Willie McGinest - LB - NE (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NFL&id=1155) - Mar. 9 - 8:35 am et </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>The Patriots have decided to release 12-year veteran linebacker Willie McGinest.
There is still a decent chance McGinest will return and there was no way he was coming back with an $8.3 million cap figure. The Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys are expected to show interest. Mar. 9 - 8:35 am et
Source: Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2006/03/09/patriots_cut_ties_with_mcginest/)
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Expected, I think. There was an article in the Globe a few days ago where he said he expected to get cut. It will be interesting to see where he ends up. Although compared to the teams on that list, I have to think he'll believe his best chance to win more championships is in NE.
My main concern is that they resign Adam V. asap.
Greyroofoo
03-09-2006, 05:34 PM
My main concern is that they resign Adam V. asap.
What's going to happen is the Patriots sign Vanderjagt instead who proceeds to kick the game winning field goal in a playoff game vs. the Colts.
Deattribution
03-09-2006, 05:40 PM
What's going to happen is the Patriots sign Vanderjagt instead who proceeds to kick the game winning field goal in a playoff game vs. the Colts.
Only problem with that scenario is the reality -
New England's Vanderjagt is up to attempt a 45 yard field goat. What's this? Vanderjagt has came out wearing an AFC champion hat instead of a helmet and pointing to the Colt's bench laughing, he lines up for the kick - wide right... the Colts are your AFC champions.
EagleFan
03-09-2006, 05:49 PM
the Colts are your AFC champions.
Did Peyton retire?
Deattribution
03-09-2006, 05:52 PM
Did Peyton retire?
No, it's all the idiot kicker's fault Peyton sucks in big games. DUUUH.. what fictional dream universe are YOU in? ;)
Desnudo
03-09-2006, 06:13 PM
Only problem with that scenario is the reality -
New England's Vanderjagt is up to attempt a 45 yard field goat. What's this? Vanderjagt has came out wearing an AFC champion hat instead of a helmet and pointing to the Colt's bench laughing, he lines up for the kick - wide right... the Colts are your AFC champions.
Maybe the Colts have a secret agreement with Vanderjagt and Vinatieri lined up where they switch teams.
Honolulu_Blue
03-09-2006, 06:32 PM
The Lions have re-signed Shawn Bryson. The world can rest easy now.
Ryche
03-09-2006, 07:03 PM
ESPN is saying a deal is in place to trade Daunte Culpepper and will be announced tomorrow. They don't know where he is going except that it is not to Oakland, although Oakland is considering tonight whether to beat the current offer.
duckman
03-10-2006, 06:28 PM
Here is the current salary cap status according to ESPN:
<TABLE id=inlinetable cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=420 border=0><TBODY><TR><TH style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" colSpan=2>Under the salary cap</TH><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #999999" width=206>Team</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #999999" width=206>Cap status (under)</TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Green Bay Packers </TD><TD width=206>$35 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Minnesota Vikings </TD><TD width=206>$30.9 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Arizona Cardinals </TD><TD width=206>$28.9 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Cleveland Browns </TD><TD width=206>$27.1 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Philadelphia Eagles </TD><TD width=206>$26.1 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>San Diego Chargers </TD><TD width=206>$24.6 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Jacksonville Jaguars </TD><TD width=206>$23.4 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Dallas Cowboys </TD><TD width=206>$22.6 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>St. Louis Rams </TD><TD width=206>$22.1 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>New Orleans Saints </TD><TD width=206>$20.2 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>San Francisco 49ers </TD><TD width=206>$20.2 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Detroit Lions </TD><TD width=206>$17.7 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Seattle Seahawks </TD><TD width=206>$17.3 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>New England Patriots </TD><TD width=206>$16.9 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Cincinnati Bengals </TD><TD width=206>$16.6 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Chicago Bears </TD><TD width=206>$14.9 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Buffalo Bills </TD><TD width=206>$14.1 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>New York Jets </TD><TD width=206>$14 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Houston Texans </TD><TD width=206>$12.7 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Atlanta Falcons </TD><TD width=206>$12.2 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Denver Broncos </TD><TD width=206>$10.9 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Baltimore Ravens </TD><TD width=206>$10.6 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Carolina Panthers </TD><TD width=206>$10.4 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>New York Giants </TD><TD width=206>$9.9 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Kansas City Chiefs </TD><TD width=206>$7.3 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Miami Dolphins </TD><TD width=206>$6.3 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Tennessee Titans </TD><TD width=206>$6.2 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Pittsburgh Steelers </TD><TD width=206>$6.1 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Tampa Bay Buccaneers </TD><TD width=206>$5.1 million </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ececec" vAlign=top><TD width=206>Oakland Raiders </TD><TD width=206>$653,000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
miami_fan
03-11-2006, 01:50 PM
With money to spend and holes to fill, the Cleveland Browns struck quickly in free agency Saturday, reaching agreements with a pair of high-profile unrestricted free agents who will dramatically alter the landscape of the team's offensive line unit.
The Browns have signed center LeCharles Bentley of New Orleans, the top-ranked player overall in ESPN.com's ratings of unrestricted free agents. The team also reached an agreement in principle with Atlanta Falcons left offensive tackle Kevin Shaffer, ESPN.com's 26th-rated free agent.
Bentley's contract is for six years at $36 million, and includes $12.5 million in guarantees. While some details remain to be worked out on Shaffer's contract, it will be a seven-year deal worth more than $5 million annually.
Cleveland officials had suggested as the free agency signing period approached that they would be very active, and early on, in addressing key needs. The Browns had about $20 million in salary cap room even before the extension to the collective bargaining agreement added $7.5 million more per team. General manager Phil Savage and coach Romeo Crennel moved quickly in 2004 at the outset of free agency, and their Saturday forays will aid an offense that statistically ranked No. 26 in the league in 2005.
Landing the highly regarded Bentley is a huge acquisition for the Browns, who wanted more bulk and power on the interior of their offensive line. The signing represents a homecoming for Bentley, who is a Cleveland native, attended that city's St. Ignatius High School, and is a longtime Browns fan.
It had been rumored for about two weeks that Bentley would sign with Philadelphia once the free agent market opened for business, but those reports proved erroneous.
Bentley, 26, was the Saints' second-round pick in the 2002 draft. He began his career at guard and then moved to center in 2004. He earned one Pro Bowl berth at each position and scouts leaguwide agree that his best football is still ahead of him. The former Ohio State standout is a mauler, the sort of road-grader blocker the Browns need. At 315 pounds, he can take on the NFL's biggest nose tackle and has the power to drive defenders off the line of scrimmage.
In four seasons with the Saints, he played in 57 games, all as a starter.
The intention of the Browns at left tackle was to re-sign L.J. Shelton, who started all 16 games in 2005, while playing on a one-year deal. But when they could not land an extension with Shelton, the Browns quickly turned to Shaffer, a four-year veteran.
Although he struggled against speed-rushers at times in 2005, Shaffer is an emerging pass protector, as former seventh-round choice who made himself a solid player through hard work. The former Tulsa star moved into the Falcons' starting lineup midway through the 2003 season. A very good technician, and a player who figures to keep improving, Shaffer has played in 53 games and started 39 of them.
ESPN.com's Michael Smith contributed to this report.
General Mike
03-11-2006, 02:08 PM
Giants have agreed to a deal with Sam Madison worth 7.2M over 4 years, with a 2M signing bonus. Annual incentive for 4 or more picks of 250K. Very good pickup for the G-Men.
TazFTW
03-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Cowboys sign Kyle Kosier.
Cowboys | Team agrees to terms with Kosier
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:54:54 -0800
Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">NFL Network, reports the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl) have agreed to terms with free agent OT Kyle Kosier (http://www.kffl.com/player/5835/nfl) (Lions) on a five-year deal worth $15 million. The deal includes a signing bonus of $5 million.
JPhillips
03-11-2006, 03:49 PM
WOW! Six mil for a center.
There are a lot of guys that are going to cash in with all that extra cap money.
Bearcat729
03-11-2006, 05:09 PM
And a 3rd player comes to Cleveland
Browns | Jurevicius agrees to a four-year deal
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:49:29 -0800
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports free agent WR Joe Jurevicius (Seahawks) has agreed to a four-year deal worth about $10 million with the Cleveland Browns.
AlexB
03-11-2006, 05:12 PM
Giants have agreed to a deal with Sam Madison worth 7.2M over 4 years, with a 2M signing bonus. Annual incentive for 4 or more picks of 250K. Very good pickup for the G-Men.
Still don't understand why we let him go? :mad:
Edit: OK - just saw the salary cap chart further up the thread...
Mr. Sparkle
03-11-2006, 05:36 PM
Word is the 49ers and Redskins are close to a deal that would send WR Brandon Lloyd to the Skins for a 3rd rounder this year and a 4th rounder in 2007.
ISiddiqui
03-11-2006, 05:53 PM
Interesting... looks like the Browns are getting serious. With an updated O-Line and Jurevicius coming to town, they look to be taking some good steps to get out of their mediocrity.
TazFTW
03-11-2006, 06:00 PM
The Vikings sign another NFC North kicker, Ryan Longwell.
The Ravens sign Trevor Pryce.
Ravens | Team lands Pryce
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:26:19 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/9">ESPN.com's John Clayton (http://www.kffl.com/link/125) and Len Pasquarelli (http://www.kffl.com/link/17) report the Baltimore Ravens (http://www.kffl.com/team/8/nfl) have agreed to a five-year, $25 million contract with free agent DE Trevor Pryce (http://www.kffl.com/player/581/nfl) (Broncos). Included in the deal for Pryce is $10 million of guarantees.
The Saints are really hot after Drew Brees which is interesting since they are the ones that have always been projected to draft Matt Leinart. It looks great if they are able to sign Brees and get some team that covets Leinart to trade up.
Mr. Sparkle
03-11-2006, 06:09 PM
Word is the 49ers and Redskins are close to a deal that would send WR Brandon Lloyd to the Skins for a 3rd rounder this year and a 4th rounder in 2007.
And it's just been made official, according to rotoworld.
TazFTW
03-11-2006, 06:30 PM
And it's just been made official, according to rotoworld.
Apparently the Redskins do not believe in the draft. By trading their 3rd rounder this year, the Redskins have a 2nd, 5th, 2 6th, and a 7th round draft pick (they could get more via compensatory).
JeeberD
03-12-2006, 01:11 AM
The Vikings sign another NFC North kicker, Ryan Longwell.
Hmmm...JJ wasn't interested in Vinatieri because he "didn't want to set the kicker market."
Could this signing set the market and open JJ up to the idea of signing Vin?
PLEASE?!?!?!?!
TazFTW
03-12-2006, 01:49 AM
The Boston Herald quotes an unnamed agent that Adam Vinatieri will sign with a team other than the Patriots this weekend.
The Packers and Cowboys are logical fits, but it's believed New England will have a chance to match any offer. We suspect they will in the end. Mar. 11 - 11:39 pm et
Source: Boston Herald (http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots.bg)
JeeberD
03-12-2006, 01:55 AM
Holy crap, I spelled his name correctly while drinking! That must be a good sign!!!
Greyroofoo
03-12-2006, 08:18 AM
rumor has it that the cardinals will offer Edgerrin James a 5 year contract with at least 10 million up front today during his visit to Arizona.
jeff061
03-12-2006, 08:37 AM
I'd be surprised if Vinatieri signs with another team. He'd certainly get a larger contract, but he gets a lot of endorsement money up here. Not to mention his contuing legacy in New England(which he may just not care about).
In the end though, I disagree with most Pats fans(it seems). He's just a kicker, they shouldn't break the bank to keep him.
Apparently there are rumors that Givens may resign with the Pats. That' be awesome but I can't see that coming to pass. The man deserves his pay day.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/3717783.html
New England receiver David Givens, who played at Humble High School, had been scheduled to visit the Texans today but agreed to re-sign with the Patriots late Saturday.
His agent denies it.
Ryche
03-12-2006, 01:22 PM
Does anyone in Seattle have an idea of their plans for resigning Hutchinson? Are they pretty much set to match any offer made to him?
dawgfan
03-12-2006, 01:28 PM
Does anyone in Seattle have an idea of their plans for resigning Hutchinson? Are they pretty much set to match any offer made to him?
I would be shocked if Seattle doesn't match any offer for Hutch. Seattle has plenty of cap room, and they have a strong desire to keep their OL intact.
st.cronin
03-12-2006, 01:34 PM
I'd be surprised if Vinatieri signs with another team. He'd certainly get a larger contract, but he gets a lot of endorsement money up here. Not to mention his contuing legacy in New England(which he may just not care about).
I've heard that about McGinest as well. Is it really true? Would McGinest really make significantly more in endorsement money in Boston as opposed to, say, Phoenix or Detroit? It's pretty hard for me to believe.
ISiddiqui
03-12-2006, 02:28 PM
The Vikes sign Chester Taylor as well this weekend:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365156
He probably will be starting for them. I don't think he was brought in to be another RB to add to the 3 headed monster.
Browns get some more players:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365425
the Browns on Sunday added two more players, reaching an agreement with veteran defensive tackle Ted Washington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=1800) and signing punter Dave Zastudil (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5998).
Not as big as Saturday's signings, but it seems Crennel and co are serious about signing players this off season.
ISiddiqui
03-12-2006, 02:29 PM
Panthers sign Kemoeatu from the Ravens (who they've replaced with Pryce). That D-Line just gets scarier.
Shkspr
03-12-2006, 02:58 PM
And fresh off the signing of Lloyd, Washington picks up Antwaan Randle-El too.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365504
TazFTW
03-12-2006, 03:04 PM
Edge is a Cardinal.
Cardinals | E. James contract update
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:54:12 -0800
Updating previous reports, <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/6/nfl">Arizona Cardinals RB Edgerrin James (http://www.kffl.com/player/859/nfl) has signed a four-year contract worth $30 million. The contract will pay him $14.5 million in the first year through salary, signing bonus, and roster bonus.
jeff061
03-12-2006, 03:20 PM
I'm not sure the difference in endorsement income for McGinest would be large enough to make up the difference in salary.
Vinatieri is a different story I think. I see him in commercials more than Willie and I think the difference in salary is going to be less. I think the Pats are going to offer upwards of 2.5m a year, I don't see him getting much more than 3 from another team.
TazFTW
03-12-2006, 03:26 PM
Does anyone in Seattle have an idea of their plans for resigning Hutchinson? Are they pretty much set to match any offer made to him?
According to Profootballtalk, the Vikings have made a huge offer.
The Vikings have signed G Steve Hutchinson to an offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years, including $16 million in guaranteed money.
The deal has a huge cap number in the first year, which will discourage the Seahawks from matching it. They have seven days to do so. Seattle has to be regretting not placing the franchise tag on him in order to get draft pick compensation. This is the biggest contract for an interior lineman in league history by far. Mar. 12 - 4:07 pm et
Source: Profootballtalk.com (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)
Jay Glazer confirms. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5405186
rjolley
03-12-2006, 03:35 PM
And fresh off the signing of Lloyd, Washington picks up Antwaan Randle-El too.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365504 I was hoping the Bears could sign him to put him opposite of Muhammed.
DaddyTorgo
03-12-2006, 03:42 PM
Apparently there are rumors that Givens may resign with the Pats. That' be awesome but I can't see that coming to pass. The man deserves his pay day.
It's now been picked up by Patriots Football Weekly and is on patriots.com FWIW. Still coming off that Houston Chronicle report, and PFW reports that calls to Stacy James in Media Relations were not returned. edit: digging @ Patsfan.com reveals that the report appears to have been false, although there has been contact b/w the Pats and Givens' agent.
ISiddiqui
03-12-2006, 04:39 PM
And fresh off the signing of Lloyd, Washington picks up Antwaan Randle-El too.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365504
So now they have Moss, Lloyd, Randle-El, and Patten? I don't think Patten thought this is what he'd be getting into (4th reciever again) when he signed on with Washington.
Shkspr
03-12-2006, 04:49 PM
So now they have Moss, Lloyd, Randle-El, and Patten? I don't think Patten thought this is what he'd be getting into (4th reciever again) when he signed on with Washington.
If he'd caught more than 22 balls for 217 yards in his half season as the #2 guy or made fewer incendiary remarks to the media, he might not be in this situation. Washington was expecting him to be a #2 guy.
stevew
03-12-2006, 05:00 PM
That is absolutely insane overpayment for Randel El. At least that should net the steelers a 4th rounder compensatory next season.
Travis
03-12-2006, 05:45 PM
According to Profootballtalk, the Vikings have made a huge offer.
The Vikings have signed G Steve Hutchinson to an offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years, including $16 million in guaranteed money.
The deal has a huge cap number in the first year, which will discourage the Seahawks from matching it. They have seven days to do so. Seattle has to be regretting not placing the franchise tag on him in order to get draft pick compensation. This is the biggest contract for an interior lineman in league history by far. Mar. 12 - 4:07 pm et
Source: Profootballtalk.com (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)
Jay Glazer confirms. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5405186
I seriously don't care what the hit is in the first season. I have to believe that the Seahawks were willing to match any offer to Hutch when they went this road vs franchise tagging him, and they MUST step up and match this offer and take him off the market. Get it done guys, lock him up and keep the best left side in football together for a long time.
duckman
03-12-2006, 05:49 PM
That is absolutely insane overpayment for Randel El. At least that should net the steelers a 4th rounder compensatory next season.
This is Dan Snyder we're talking about.....
dawgfan
03-12-2006, 06:17 PM
I seriously don't care what the hit is in the first season. I have to believe that the Seahawks were willing to match any offer to Hutch when they went this road vs franchise tagging him, and they MUST step up and match this offer and take him off the market. Get it done guys, lock him up and keep the best left side in football together for a long time.
I agree, but I think it's obvious the Seahawks blew it on this one. The only reason I can think of that they didn't go the franchise route was to avoid pissing Hutch off, but they're going to pay for it big-time. No way he gets an offer sheet like this if he's franchised and the offering team has to surrender two #1 picks.
Solecismic
03-12-2006, 06:29 PM
What a spectacular blunder from the Seahawks. Just spectacular.
There's a $590,000 difference between the two tags, right? All off-season long we've heard there's a lack of good guards in free agency, and the draft isn't exactly deep here. This was inevitable.
Hutch is getting his cash, which is great for him. He deserves a big payday. But you can't make a blunder like this when you're running a professional football team.
st.cronin
03-12-2006, 08:01 PM
I just noticed this: CBS sportsline has Vince Young the #6 ranked qb in the draft, behind, among others, DJ Shockley and Brett Basanez.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/prospects/OFF/QB
TazFTW
03-12-2006, 08:54 PM
I know the Packer fans don't like him but I've to give thumbs up to Ted Thompson for his statement on Javon Walker.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/03/10/3/
Statement From Packers GM Ted Thompson Regarding Javon Walker
posted 03/10/2006
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width=132 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=130 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top bgColor=#ffffff><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><CENTER>http://images.packers.com/images/logos/packers_helmet.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>During his time as a Green Bay Packer, Javon Walker (http://www.packers.com/team/players/walker_javon/) has been well thought of by everyone here. I like Javon, certainly as a person and as a player.
That said, Javon is under contract, which he signed as a 2002 first-round draft choice. That contract is governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which was negotiated between the National Football League and the National Football League Players’ Association, and we expect him to honor it.
There have been several highly publicized cases of player discontent in the National Football League. I don’t anticipate us making any concessions in this matter.
We will continue to stay the course, and the Green Bay Packers will have no further comment on this topic
SteelerFan448
03-12-2006, 09:24 PM
That is absolutely insane overpayment for Randel El. At least that should net the steelers a 4th rounder compensatory next season.
That was beyond overpaying, particularly when you consider he will be the 3rd or maybe even 4th option at times.
st.cronin
03-12-2006, 09:29 PM
That was beyond overpaying, particularly when you consider he will be the 3rd or maybe even 4th option at times.
Maybe he's going to be their qb?
Thomkal
03-12-2006, 09:30 PM
Woohoo! My beloved Cards will actually have a running game next season (if they can get some O-Line help for Edge that is)
TazFTW
03-12-2006, 09:35 PM
The Ravens have signed Mike Anderson.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=390 background="" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#602871>Mike Anderson (http://fantasyfootball.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?leaguenum=&sport=NFL&id=1926) - RB - Ravens (http://fantasyfootball.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_news.asp?leaguenum=&sport=NFL&majteam=BAL)</TD><TD width=40 background=/images/dia_wt_2_trans_tr.gif bgColor=#602871><SPACER width="30" height="16" type="block">
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</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff>Ravens signed RB Mike Anderson to a four-year, $8 million contract. The deal includes a $2 million signing bonus.
Baltimore still needs to add a tailback and this contract indicates Anderson is comfortable being a backup. Whether he competes with Jamal Lewis or a rookie for carries remains to be seen. Anderson is a good fit for Baltimore's power attack and is still capable when called upon, especially in short-yardage situations. Mar. 12 - 10:26 pm et
Source: Baltimore Sun (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravens312,0,7828733.story?coll=bal-sports-football)
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Ksyrup
03-12-2006, 10:01 PM
That was beyond overpaying, particularly when you consider he will be the 3rd or maybe even 4th option at times.
The idea (I stress idea) is for him to be the #2 receiver.
stevew
03-12-2006, 10:08 PM
I hope the skins fans like East/West punt returns and consistant bitching to the refs about pass interference after he can't catch the ball. He did make about 6 huge plays last year, so I will definately miss him on those rare occasions.
Swaggs
03-12-2006, 10:51 PM
I hope the skins fans like East/West punt returns and consistant bitching to the refs about pass interference after he can't catch the ball. He did make about 6 huge plays last year, so I will definately miss him on those rare occasions.
I'll miss him, too. I liked having him on the team and he seemed like a good guy in the community, but I cannot see paying a 40-catch guy/PR this kind of money. I predict he will have a decent season next year, and then, after the Brunell-era ends, he will look really bad breaking in a new QB and that contract will look terrible.
Too bad about Mike Anderson. I would have loved to see him come in and play Bettis's role for the Steelers next season.
Ryche
03-12-2006, 11:16 PM
I just noticed this: CBS sportsline has Vince Young the #6 ranked qb in the draft, behind, among others, DJ Shockley and Brett Basanez.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/prospects/OFF/QB
Basanez higher than Young? I think that list loses credibility right there. I'd be surprised if Basanez is even drafted.
Travis
03-13-2006, 12:06 AM
What a spectacular blunder from the Seahawks. Just spectacular.
There's a $590,000 difference between the two tags, right? All off-season long we've heard there's a lack of good guards in free agency, and the draft isn't exactly deep here. This was inevitable.
Hutch is getting his cash, which is great for him. He deserves a big payday. But you can't make a blunder like this when you're running a professional football team.
One thing I've read, and take with a grain of salt, was that there was an agreement between the parties for the market to set itself, then for the Seahawks to pay him that. Seems odd in this day and age if that is the case, but with the way the Seahawks front office has worked since the revamping, it sounds like the kind of thing they might do to ensure that they have a very happy and productive Steve Hutchinson on the team for the rest (hopefully) of his career.
Even with a severly frontloaded deal, the Seahawks should be able to match and still make any other moves they wanted to as they have a lot of cap room to work with, so I'm hoping this line of reasoning is valid and that in the next 7 days he'll be under contract for a long time.
TazFTW
03-13-2006, 12:17 AM
Even with a severly frontloaded deal, the Seahawks should be able to match and still make any other moves they wanted to as they have a lot of cap room to work with, so I'm hoping this line of reasoning is valid and that in the next 7 days he'll be under contract for a long time.
According to Profootballtalk, Minnesota's offer makes Hutchinson's cap number in '06 to be $13 million. Duckman posted what ESPN thinks teams have under the cap, http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1081612&postcount=166.
According to that the Seahawks have $17+ million under the cap, are they going to use up 75% of their existing cap room to match the offer?
TazFTW
03-13-2006, 08:29 AM
The Eagles sign Darren Howard.
Eagles signed DE Darren Howard to a six-year, $30.5 million contract, including $10.5 million in guarantees.
Considering the money being thrown at average linemen in free agency, this is a great deal. Howard has averaged over seven sacks and two forced fumbles in his six year career and provides an excellent bookend to pair with Jevon Kearse. Trent Cole will move to the bench. Mar. 13 - 9:24 am et
Source: ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2366207)
Kearse and Howard. Yikes.
stevew
03-13-2006, 08:44 AM
According to Profootballtalk, Minnesota's offer makes Hutchinson's cap number in '06 to be $13 million. Duckman posted what ESPN thinks teams have under the cap, http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1081612&postcount=166.
According to that the Seahawks have $17+ million under the cap, are they going to use up 75% of their existing cap room to match the offer?
He already counts for 6-7 under the cap so at most they would be using another 6-7 this year out of their remaining 17 to match.
TazFTW
03-13-2006, 08:50 AM
He already counts for 6-7 under the cap so at most they would be using another 6-7 this year out of their remaining 17 to match.
Yeah, you're right. Forgot that he already counted in the Seahawks cap but it looks like it is a moot point now.
Seahawks | More about Hutchinson's offer
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:14:53 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/21">Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune (http://www.kffl.com/link/37), reports the offer sheet signed by Seattle Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) OG Steve Hutchinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1701/nfl) with the Minnesota Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) reportedly included a $10 million signing bonus, a $6 million roster bonus payable this year and a $585,000 base salary in 2006. That would translate to $8.585 million in salary cap charges this year, a high number but not a prohibitive one. Hutchinson is already counting $6.391 million against Seattle's cap after the Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) named him their transition player, which allows them to match offers he receives in free agency. Under those terms, the Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) could match the Vikings' offer and still have roughly $16 million in salary cap room, plenty to re-sign their own free agents and pursue others on the market. There were reports, however, that the Vikings' offer might carry a first-year cap charge of $13 million. That would be the figure if Hutchinson's 2006 base salary were $5.85 million instead of $585,000.
Stupid extra zero... :redface:
Honolulu_Blue
03-13-2006, 08:53 AM
I'm happy with this Hutchinson scenario. It's good to see a fellow alumn get paid and if Seattle has to cough up a lot to keep him, sounds good to me, and if Minnesota is distracted during FA by this, even better.
My thoughts right now...
I think Hutchinson is a great player, but there's no way I pay that kind of money on a Guard even if he's one of the best in the league.
I have no idea what the Redskins are thinking with the Randel El signing. The guy caught something like 35 passes last year! He's a decent player, but no where near worth that kind of guaranteed money. I thought they did a good job getting Lloyd though, I think he'll make a better #2 than Randel El. I also liked their siging of Fauria. A veteran TE who's consistent will be much better than Royal was last season.
Just heard the Redskins also signed Adam Achuletta, but haven't heard the details of the contract. If they didn't overpay, he's a good pick up as well.
Ryche
03-13-2006, 09:17 AM
Another bit from the Pro Football Talk rumormill. Supposedly there is a clause in the contract offered to Hutchinson making the entire contract guarenteed if at some point he is no longer the highest paid player on the team. If Seattle has to meet the provision, they will already have to guarentee the whole deal because Walter Jones is paid more. It's unclear whether they would have to meet that provision though.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
pennywisesb
03-13-2006, 11:08 AM
Kearse and Howard. Yikes.
Seriously Yikes! Those two should work very well opposite eachother. I'm always impressed with the offseason moves Philadelphia pulls off.
ISiddiqui
03-13-2006, 01:19 PM
Skins continue to spend:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9304905
ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Redskins (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/WAS) added safety Adam Archuleta (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/235191) to their free agency haul Monday, the team's fourth acquisition in three days.
And Jamal Lewis stays in Baltimore
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9305050
OWINGS MILLS, Md. -- Running back Jamal Lewis (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/187391) and the Baltimore Ravens (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL) reached agreement on a three-year contract Monday, less than 24 hours after the team added free agent Mike Anderson (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/187481) to improve a running game that struggled last season.
WSUCougar
03-13-2006, 01:30 PM
Interesting. Haslett (new Rams DC) really wanted Archuleta to stay in St. Louis. Chavous is slated for FS.
I like Archuletta alot and if Taylor can stay out of jail that will be a interesting combo of safties. Throw in Springs and Carlos Rogers and that is an impressive defensive backfield.
If the Redskins had a QB, they'd be a scary team...:D
dawgfan
03-13-2006, 01:52 PM
I'm betting the rest of the NFL is pissed at Minnesota and Seattle over the Hutchinson deal - Minnesota for offering stupid money to a G, Seattle for allowing the market circumstances for such a deal to happen.
We'll see what the actual contract terms are, but at this point I'm pretty optimistic that the 'Hawks will keep Hutch and it won't have a major impact on their salary cap this year. Still, it will likely sting quite a bit to be paying so much $$$ for a position that doesn't normally command it...
Travis
03-13-2006, 02:05 PM
As far as the Hutch/Seahawks situation, if and yeah, likely a big IF they match the deal, at least the way it sounds how it's structured, it'll be a bitter one year pill that will open up more options for them in following seasons rather than franchising him this year, then going through this hassle again next offseason. Hard to believe that saving half a million this year would be the reason to transition tag him rather than frachising him, but doing it this way ensured that he'd get a long term offer of some sort that Seattle could then match, giving Hutchinson a long term deal at "fair market value" this offseason.
Some weird logic, yes, but potentially effective in wrapping up maybe the best guard in football long term while also assuring that he's happy with the deal and won't feel like he didn't get his shot at a free agent sort of payday.
JPhillips
03-13-2006, 02:11 PM
The Archuleta move is the first thing the Redskins have done that I don't think helps them on the field. Last year they were vulnerable to the deep ball especially when Springs got hurt. Now they have two head-hunters, but no true coverage safety.
Its a given that Springs will get hurt agin this year and when he does expect teams to throw deep on the Skins. That's going to be their weak spot.
Solecismic
03-13-2006, 02:16 PM
As far as the Hutch/Seahawks situation, if and yeah, likely a big IF they match the deal, at least the way it sounds how it's structured, it'll be a bitter one year pill that will open up more options for them in following seasons rather than franchising him this year, then going through this hassle again next offseason. Hard to believe that saving half a million this year would be the reason to transition tag him rather than frachising him, but doing it this way ensured that he'd get a long term offer of some sort that Seattle could then match, giving Hutchinson a long term deal at "fair market value" this offseason.
Some weird logic, yes, but potentially effective in wrapping up maybe the best guard in football long term while also assuring that he's happy with the deal and won't feel like he didn't get his shot at a free agent sort of payday.
Then why tag him at all? If Hutch were a free agent, he'd get offers. And he'd be free to ask Seattle to match them. Tagging him upped his price quite a bit.
Cringer
03-13-2006, 02:30 PM
I know the Packer fans don't like him but I've to give thumbs up to Ted Thompson for his statement on Javon Walker.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/03/10/3/
In other words Tompson is saying this..."We hope to get one year out of him in which he may or may not try his hardest and then either let him walk for nothing or franchise tag him, which would mean keeping a guy on the team who does not like to be on the team and keeps getting more angry. Then hopefully we can have our own small town version of T.O. in another year or two and my destruction of the Packers will be near completion."
:D
Sorry, I love the prick know as Thompson.
Subby
03-13-2006, 02:38 PM
The Archuleta move is the first thing the Redskins have done that I don't think helps them on the field. Last year they were vulnerable to the deep ball especially when Springs got hurt. Now they have two head-hunters, but no true coverage safety.
Its a given that Springs will get hurt agin this year and when he does expect teams to throw deep on the Skins. That's going to be their weak spot.I think he is an upgrade over everyone else they had back there - none of those guys are real good in coverage. My big concern is their depth at cornerback...they are really thin there...
Travis
03-13-2006, 02:41 PM
Then why tag him at all? If Hutch were a free agent, he'd get offers. And he'd be free to ask Seattle to match them. Tagging him upped his price quite a bit.
Honestly, no idea other than to absolutely ensure that they'd have the right to match and that this way it's one offer and done rather than getting 3 or 4 teams into a bidding war. As it is, he was assured of what, $6.3 million this year because of the tag, and the total of the Minny offer is $49 over 7 years. So the Seahawks would have to bite the bullet in year 1, but after that they'd be getting him for a relatively bargain deal as compared to what they'd pay if they (for example) franchised him each year for that same length.
Might not be the best way to get a long term deal worked out, but I really hope they do match with the view that it will save them money in years 2-7.
Honolulu_Blue
03-13-2006, 03:05 PM
Well, the Lions have signed a free agent.
I'll give you one chance to guess what position this new free agent plays.
Here's a hint: In 2002, Millen took his first big plunge into free agency by signing two players at this position to big contracts.
Here's another hint: The Lions drafted a player at this very same position in the first round of 2003.
Here's another hint: The Lions drafted a player at this very same position in the first round of 2004.
Here's yet another hint: The Lions drafted a player at this very same position in the first round of 2005.
Figured it out yet? What position of need they've long-neglected is finally filled? Why, wide receiver. Of course.
The Detroit Lions signed eight year veteran Corey Bradford to a four-year, $7.4 million contract that included a $2 million signing bonus.
Bradford, 30, has never caught more than 45 passes in a season. But the former Jackson State standout, who played the last four seasons with the Houston Texans, is a deep threat who has averaged 15.6 yards over the course of his career. He has also averaged a touchdown catch every 8.0 receptions. He began his career with the Green Bay Packers as a fifth-round choice in 1998, and then signed with the Texans as a free agent in 2002.
The roar has been restored.
stevew
03-13-2006, 03:06 PM
Santonio Holmes breathes a sigh of relief somewhere.
Mr. Sparkle
03-13-2006, 03:08 PM
Well, the Lions have signed a free agent.
I'll give you one chance to guess what position this new free agent plays.
Here's a hint: In 2002, Millen took his first big plunge into free agency by signing two players at this position to big contracts.
Here's another hint: The Lions drafted a player at this very same position in the first round of 2003.
Here's another hint: The Lions drafted a player at this very same position in the first round of 2004.
Here's yet another hint: The Lions drafted a player at this very same position in the first round of 2005.
Figured it out yet? What position of need they've long-neglected is finally filled? Why, wide receiver. Of course.
The Detroit Lions signed eight year veteran Corey Bradford to a four-year, $7.4 million contract that included a $2 million signing bonus.
Bradford, 30, has never caught more than 45 passes in a season. But the former Jackson State standout, who played the last four seasons with the Houston Texans, is a deep threat who has averaged 15.6 yards over the course of his career. He has also averaged a touchdown catch every 8.0 receptions. He began his career with the Green Bay Packers as a fifth-round choice in 1998, and then signed with the Texans as a free agent in 2002.
The roar has been restored.
Think Charles Rodgers will be cut or traded?
Butter
03-13-2006, 03:09 PM
The Bengals finally sign somebody... signing former Tampa Bay safety Dexter Jackson to a 4 year, $8 million deal. A position of need filled. I was starting to get nervous.
Mr. Sparkle
03-13-2006, 03:10 PM
Dola
Antonio Bryant signs with 49ers for 4 years/$15 million. So essentially they traded Brandon Lloyd for Bryant, a 3rd this year, and a 4th next year. I'll take that.
Pyser
03-13-2006, 03:13 PM
niners look great with this wr swap. gain 2 picks, save $10m, and get a more productive wr in the process.
Honolulu_Blue
03-13-2006, 03:15 PM
Think Charles Rodgers will be cut or traded?
All reports indicate that he wont. Millen said as much. Then again, Millen's word has been pretty meaningless, just ask Johnny Morton and Marty Mornhinweg.
They may trade him, but I guess it would depend on what they could get for him. I assume his trade value is pretty low at the moment.
I don't see them cutting him though. There is no real need from a cap perspective and his salary is pretty friendly at the moment (since he missed so many damned incentives last year). I figure they will give him a chance to get his head on straight and see if Martz can get something out of him. The only reason to cut him would be if he were a detriment to the team. Then again, he was benched regularly last year for the likes of Scottie Vines.
Mr. Sparkle
03-13-2006, 03:26 PM
All reports indicate that he wont. Millen said as much. Then again, Millen's word has been pretty meaningless, just ask Johnny Morton and Marty Mornhinweg.
They may trade him, but I guess it would depend on what they could get for him. I assume his trade value is pretty low at the moment.
I don't see them cutting him though. There is no real need from a cap perspective and his salary is pretty friendly at the moment (since he missed so many damned incentives last year). I figure they will give him a chance to get his head on straight and see if Martz can get something out of him. The only reason to cut him would be if he were a detriment to the team. Then again, he was benched regularly last year for the likes of Scottie Vines.
I've always been somewhat interested in Detroit's moves for whatever reason. Who do you think they're looking at in the draft with the 9th pick? Michael Huff maybe? Vernon Davis?:)
Honolulu_Blue
03-13-2006, 03:38 PM
I've always been somewhat interested in Detroit's moves for whatever reason. Who do you think they're looking at in the draft with the 9th pick? Michael Huff maybe? Vernon Davis?:)
Michael Huff appears to be the flavor of the month right now. Marinelli's defense (apparently) relies upon strong safety play and the current state of the Lions' defensive backfield is pretty sad. Kennoy Kennedy can hit, but is otherwise pretty unimpressive. The other safeties are Vernon Fox (special teamer), Terrence Holt (Torri's brother) who showed some flashes at times during his rookie season and seemed to have a real nose for the ball, but just didn't get the job done when given the chance to start last year, and John McGraw (he's not good). At cornerback you have Bly (who is good) and after that you have Fernando Bryant (who is not good) and two unproven players in Stanley Wilson (2nd year guy) and Keith Smith (3rd year guy). Other than Bly and Shaun Rogers (DT), their defense sorely lacks playmakers. Huff seems like a good fit at a position of need.
It wouldn't surprise me, however, if the Lions took Davis. I mean, the defense (as described above) was pretty much the same this time last year and the Lions went out and drafted Mike Williams. The Lions have Marcus Pollard (who played surprisingly poorly once doning the Honolulu Blue and Silver), so Davis would certainly be an upgrade at the position and give Harrington (or whoever the QB is) yet another offensive weapon.
My biggest fear, at the moment, is that after free agency one of the three QBs (Young, Leinhart, or Cutler) drops and Huff, Davis, or whomever the Lions could really use are gone. Not sure what would happen then...
stevew
03-13-2006, 03:41 PM
My biggest fear, at the moment, is that after free agency one of the three QBs (Young, Leinhart, or Cutler) drops and Huff, Davis, or whomever the Lions could really use are gone. Not sure what would happen then...
Millen drafting anyone would be my biggest fear.
Mustang
03-13-2006, 03:42 PM
Matt Millen must be playing Maximum Football.. thinking he can customize the team to a 10 WR set...
He is like Randolph and Mortimer but, instead of trying to corner the OJ market, he is trying it with WRs..
dawgfan
03-13-2006, 03:45 PM
As far as the Hutch/Seahawks situation, if and yeah, likely a big IF they match the deal, at least the way it sounds how it's structured, it'll be a bitter one year pill that will open up more options for them in following seasons rather than franchising him this year, then going through this hassle again next offseason.
I dunno - if Mike Sando is correct, it isn't nearly as big a "bitter pill" as was orginally being reported. Sounds like his first year cap hit is $8.6M - a big number, but only $2.2M more than what they already had penciled-in with the transition tag, and still leaving them with nearly $14M of cap room to spare. Assmuning Sando's numbers are right, I think it's a given that the 'Hawks will match.
stevew
03-13-2006, 03:47 PM
I dunno - if Mike Sando is correct, it isn't nearly as big a "bitter pill" as was orginally being reported. Sounds like his first year cap hit is $8.6M - a big number, but only $2.2M more than what they already had penciled-in with the transition tag, and still leaving them with nearly $14M of cap room to spare. Assmuning Sando's numbers are right, I think it's a given that the 'Hawks will match.
New rumor says that there is a pill in there which automatically guarantees the entire deal if he is not the top paid player on the team(though it may be on the line). If this is true, the Seahawks would somehow need to restructure Jones, or be screwed.
Greyroofoo
03-13-2006, 03:49 PM
This Corey Braford signing slightly dampens my hope of the Lions drafting a Receiver in the first round. However my fingers are still crossed.
stevew
03-13-2006, 03:50 PM
dola, from Profootballtalk.com(questionable source, i will admit)
HUTCHINSON OFFER HAS MAJOR POISON PILL
A league source tells us that the offer sheet signed by Seahawks guard Steve Hutchinson with the Minnesota Vikings contains a poison pill of unprecedented magnitude and significance, which is aimed at preventing Seattle from exercising its right to match the deal, pursuant to the rules applicable to transition players.
Apart from a 2006 cap number that exceeds $13 million, the offer sheet contains a provision that makes the entire deal guaranteed if Hutchinson at any point becomes anything other than the highest paid player on the team.
RendeR
03-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Basanez higher than Young? I think that list loses credibility right there. I'd be surprised if Basanez is even drafted.
If you really would be surprised if he's drafted perhaps you need to watch the guy play. I watched a ton of big ten games and Basanez is a damn fine QB. He doesn't have the flash or the exposure that the big names get, but the guy can play the position.He lifts his teamates to higher levels than they would normally play at and he makes good decisions with the ball. The only ding on his abilities right now is that he is a little erratic with his throws and seems to be "streaky".
I'll be stunned if he's NOT drafted in the first 2-3 rounds.
Better than Young? perhaps not in shear ability, but I think he'll play longer at the QB position than Young will.
RendeR
03-13-2006, 04:05 PM
dola, from Profootballtalk.com(questionable source, i will admit)
HUTCHINSON OFFER HAS MAJOR POISON PILL
A league source tells us that the offer sheet signed by Seahawks guard Steve Hutchinson with the Minnesota Vikings contains a poison pill of unprecedented magnitude and significance, which is aimed at preventing Seattle from exercising its right to match the deal, pursuant to the rules applicable to transition players.
Apart from a 2006 cap number that exceeds $13 million, the offer sheet contains a provision that makes the entire deal guaranteed if Hutchinson at any point becomes anything other than the highest paid player on the team.
If this is true the management people who sign such a thing are the biggest farking IDIOTS ever to hold a job.
TazFTW
03-13-2006, 04:06 PM
The Cowboys lose one LB.
Saints | Team lands Fujita
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:54:55 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/125">John Clayton and Len Pasquarelli (http://www.kffl.com/link/17), of ESPN.com (http://www.kffl.com/link/9), report the New Orleans Saints (http://www.kffl.com/team/25/nfl) have agreed to terms with free agent LB Scott Fujita (http://www.kffl.com/player/5743/nfl) (Cowboys) on an undisclosed contract.
And they sign another one.
Cowboys | Ayodele signed to five-year deal
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:50:15 -0800
The <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl">Dallas Cowboys have announced the team has signed free agent LB Akin Ayodele (http://www.kffl.com/player/5736/nfl) (Jaguars) to a five-year deal. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Ayodele's deal is 5 years for $17 million with a a $5 million signing bonus.
WSUCougar
03-13-2006, 04:09 PM
Think Charles Rodgers will be cut or traded?
Rumor has it the Redskins have signed his collar bone to a 7-year, $46 million offer sheet.
JPhillips
03-13-2006, 04:52 PM
Dexter Jackson is a great pickup for the Bengals. This is the guy they have targeted from the beginning and they paid him a lot less than Archuleta and Chavous got. He covers and plays the run the way Marvin wants from his safeties. We got an under-30 Super Bowl MVP in a position of need.
Now I hope we can get Sam Adams to fill our other big hole.
Abe Sargent
03-13-2006, 05:17 PM
Cowboys overpaid for Ayodele.
Nobody has mentioned the Jaguars Brian Williams deal yet? I wonder why no-one has thought that a CB getting a 10 mill bonus to be a starter would be a deal worth mentioning?
-Anxiety
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