Werewolf XXVI: The Thing - GAME OVER! THINGS WIN!!!

[Schmidty]

You are a member of a team of scientists who have been assigned to a small base in the most remote, desolate and deadly place in the world: Antarctica.

As you arrive, you realize that something is wrong with the base: There seems to be no sign of the group of norwegian scientists you are supposed to be taking over for.

After a few moments of looking around in silence, you hear the distinct sound of a helicopter coming toward the base from the south. As the chopper comes into view, you see someone (presumably one the norwegians) firing a gun at some type of animal running toward the base. Suddenly, the helicopter veers sharply to the side and then crashes into the ice below. The explosion is immense, but through the smoke and flames, you see that the animal is still alive and running toward you.

The animal, a beautiful malamute, arrives and you and your fellow scientists quickly take it into the base. Inside, you find an apparent chain-link kennel with several other malamute sled dogs barking at your appearance. You put the dog into the kennel, and then go to search the rest of the base.

After you investigate further, you find no signs of a struggle within the base, so you relax a bit and try to get daily life within the complex going.......

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This is my first attempt at running a WW game, so please be patient with me. Also, I apologize if my descriptions were bad or inaccurate in the above text, but I'm trying to recall the movie without having seen it for months. :)

Anyway, I'm still working out some of the roles and such, but I wanted to get the sign ups going. We should be starting in a few days, and I will have an outline of how we're going to be doing things soon.

1. JeeberD
2. st.cronin
3. tanglewood
4. Raiders Army
5. Blade6119
6. kingfc
7. Swaggs
8. path12
9. saldana - dead day 2
10. Qwikshot - dead day 1
11. Barkeep
12. mckerney
13. Coffee Warlord - dead
14. Anxiety
15. hoopsguy
16. WVUFAN (MIA)

[JeeberD]

Crap!

I didn't want to play again so soon, but I LOVE The Thing. How can I miss out on a game based on a movie as great as that?

Count me in...

[st.cronin]

Schmidty that font is IMPOSSIBLE to read on my monitor. I'm on spring break and could join a werewolf game, but I have to be able to read it.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty that font is IMPOSSIBLE to read on my monitor. I'm on spring break and could join a werewolf game, but I have to be able to read it.

I use Sideline Green, so the red font is super hard to for me to read, but I guess I can switch for the duration of this game.

[st.cronin]

thank you!

I would like to play, please :D

[Schmidty]

thank you!

I would like to play, please :D

You're in, you needy bastard. :p

[Desnudo]

I would love to, but will be on the road this week.

[Barkeep49]

If the is really going to start later in the week I'll sign-up. If you have a number concern (as in too many) feel free to make me an alternate.

[Schmidty]

If the is really going to start later in the week I'll sign-up. If you have a number concern (as in too many) feel free to make me an alternate.

I probably won't start until wednesday or thursday, since I have quite a bit of work left over from last week that'll be swamping me on monday and tuesday.

[SackAttack]

Shouldn't this be XXVI? :p

[Schmidty]

Shouldn't this be XXVI? :p

This might end up being WW0 with all of the people that have PMed me that they can't play, and all the people I've seen in the thread who haven't signed up. :(

[tanglewood]

I'll play in this.

[Barkeep49]

Don't despair. Some wait until rules have been posted. Others just dwaddle. You'll get your sign-ups.

[Raiders Army]

I'll go on this one.

[Schmidty]

Don't despair. Some wait until rules have been posted. Others just dwaddle. You'll get your sign-ups.

I hope so. I'm pretty excited about trying this out.

[Vince]

Excellent premise. I've got quite a bit of time off next week, and over the weekend. I'm in.

[dubb93]

I'll play.

[Swaggs]

Sounds fun.

I'm in. :)

[Schmidty]

Just bumping this before it falls off the first page.

[Schmidty]

Just bumping this before it falls off the first page.

[Schmidty]

Just bumping this before it falls off the first page.

[path12]

I'm in.

[Alan T]

I'll play - just a note though, going to be busier this time than the last few times. So don't assume I'm evil because of it. :) (would like to live past day 3!)

[Qwikshot]

Yes I'm playing and I promise I'll be normal.

[pennywisesb]

I'll play

[mckerney]

I'm in.

[Coffee Warlord]

Guess it's high time for the Lord of Coffee to hop back into the mix. IN!

[Raiders Army]

Yes I'm playing and I promise I'll be normal.
I need to check your blood. :)

[Abe Sargent]

I would like to try this out.

-Anxiety

[Alan T]

bump, this was burried on page 3

[Qwikshot]

I need to check your blood. :)

I'm MacReady, I know I am.:duh2:

[Schmidty]

If we don't get to 20 players by tomorrow, I'm postponing my WW game for awhile.

Life is going to get hectic starting this weekend with my in-laws coming into town, and my wife taking two weeks off of work. I would have already canceled/ postponed, but I'm pretty excited about this game, and I didn't want to be a turd and miss my spot in the order.

Anyway, if this falls through this time, I won't be pissed or anything, but I will want to take the next spot in the order.

[Raiders Army]

So does that mean that this game is on hold for two weeks then?

[Qwikshot]

Wowzers, have WW games finally lost their luster?

[st.cronin]

If this doesn't start soon, I'll have to bow out. The next 10 days are the only real free time I'll have til about June.

[Schmidty]

So does that mean that this game is on hold for two weeks then?

Not necessarily. Like I said above, if I get up to 20 players by tomorrow/friday, I'll still do it now. If not, I'm going to have to wait.

[Schmidty]

Wowzers, have WW games finally lost their luster?

Yeah, and it just so happens that it occurs on my watch. :(

[Qwikshot]

Aw, I wanna get assimilated....

[SnDvls]

Yeah, and it just so happens that it occurs on my watch. :(


I don't think it has anything to do with you. It's Spring Break for the kiddies and March Madness for the sports nuts. I didn't join because we're going out of town tomorrow and won't be back until Sunday, just didn't seem fair to the other players to be inactive that long.

[hoopsguy]

100% agree with SnDvls in terms of the timing of the event being challenging, not the moderator.

If this game is pushed back to April I would definitely play.

[Schmidty]

100% agree with SnDvls in terms of the timing of the event being challenging, not the moderator.

If this game is pushed back to April I would definitely play.

If I pushed it back that far, would I get trumped by some other WW moderator, and would the people that signed up even play?

Maybe we all need a WW break.

[hoopsguy]

In terms of order, I would certainly let you run your game before mine comes around. And I wouldn't be surprised if other people feel the same way.

I would think that if someone wanted to run a smaller game (8-12 person) that this might be an ideal time for it. But the larger games (15-25+) probably will struggle for get their numbers over the next 7-10 days with the start of the NCAA tournament + spring break.

[kingfc22]

If I pushed it back that far, would I get trumped by some other WW moderator, and would the people that signed up even play?

Maybe we all need a WW break.

I know that I am next, but I will not start my game until March Madness is over because I won't be able to devote enough time to WW. That is also why I haven't signed up for this game.

[pennywisesb]

If we hold off until a couple of weeks I'll have to pass on this game. I start LAFD Fire Academy March 27th and there's no way I'd have enough time to play in a WW game.

[saldana]

if we waited until the tourney is over, i would be in as well, my recovery from star wars should be complete by then

[Desnudo]

Yeah, and it just so happens that it occurs on my watch. :(

I would have played if I had the time this week or next. Unfortunately I don't. 14 sign-ups is decent.

[tanglewood]

I suppose someone could voluenteer to step up and run a quick smallsih, simple, basic WW game. I remember those....

[Raiders Army]

I would have played if I had the time this week or next. Unfortunately I don't. 14 sign-ups is decent.
I would agree that 14 is decent.

[Barkeep49]

I would agree that 14 is decent.
While I agree 14 is decent, and hope Schmidty would consider running his game. However, if someone is interested in hosting a 9 person game I have a good format to suggest. I would do it myself, except I am going to be hosting my To Crown a King game starting on Monday elsewhere and don't want to be hosting on two different boards simultainously.

[kingfc22]

Is WW on hiatus until after March Madness?

[Schmidty]

Is WW on hiatus until after March Madness?

I think that's a good idea.

I'll be running this game a day or two after the Championship game.

[dubb93]

I think that's a good idea.

I'll be running this game a day or two after the Championship game.

BOOO, I'm having surgery on my right foot on tuesday, I could have supplied this game with quality analysis while on pain med. ;)

On, the other hand, for the quality of the game it was probably a good idea to push the date back, I know I'll still be in.

[Alan T]

I probably cant do the game anymore for a bit. Work is picking up again, and its about time for another one of my trademarked disappearances for a while.

See you all in 2007! (ok hopefully it wont be that long. But I will be traveling to NY, GA, CA and MD in the next few weeks.)

I'll follow along when I can though. good luck on it!

[saldana]

and i find that with the time off for the tournament, i am now able to play

count me in

[hoopsguy]

I'll be up for this if it starts up next week.

[Qwikshot]

I'm stuck in the snow waiting for the game to start

"Who goes there?"

[Raiders Army]

So are you Macready or Childs?

[Blade6119]

Ill step in as well

[Blade6119]

Anyone else smell that?...smells like fear...must be time for WW again :) Lets do this!

[bulletsponge]

whats a WW game?

[hoopsguy]

If we are rolling this game next week I may not be able to post during the days. So I'll roll myself down to the alternate list if that is the timeframe.

Bullet, WW = werewolf. There have been a number of werewolf games we have run on this board over the last 9-12 months. It is sometimes referred to as "Mafia" on other boards. Here is a Wikipedia link to some basic information. If you want to know more you can search for one of the earlier games run on this site to get a feel for the FOFC flavor of werewolf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(game)

[Schmidty]

Bumping to see who's actually going to be in this, so we can get it started.

[Abe Sargent]

Me.

[dubb93]

I've been ready for this thing to start for nearly a month.

[mckerney]

I'm still in.

[Qwikshot]

KHAN! I'm in.

[Vince]

I think I'm going to have to bow out...I'm working a few doubles this week, and I won't be able to be as active as I'd like.

[Barkeep49]

Schmidty I'm in for real. Why don't you send out a PM to those that expressed interest and who haven't confirmed here.

[tanglewood]

Still waiting. :)

[saldana]

im still in

[path12]

Here!

[JeeberD]

Still in, as long as we wait until Monday to start. I won't have much free time this weekend...

[Coffee Warlord]

Oh sure, I'm in.

[Schmidty]

Ok, the game will be starting on Wednesday. I'm going to look at the past few WW games to figure out a schedule, but if any of you have suggestions, please let me know.

[Raiders Army]

I'm good for this, but I will be out of the office for most of next week during the day.

[Blade6119]

So we are starting tomorrow? Just making sure so i can adjust my schedule a bit

[Qwikshot]

Woot...finally

[JeeberD]

Vote Blade

Oh...is it too early?

[Schmidty]

Ok, I'll be sending out roles this evening, and Night 0 will begin.

[Schmidty]

By the way, I've decided to run this game a bit differently than some of the others.

Instead of voting for who is lynched every day, you will be voting on who will be tested by drawing blood) each day. If the player that is tested turns out to be a Thing, he will be killed, and the players will be allowed to choose someone else to be tested. (I am trying to decide if I will allow more than two testings a day or not)

Instead of making kills during the night cycle, the Things will be able to convert/infect a scientist. This will obviously make that scientist a Thing.

The game will be over when either A) there are no Things left, or B) there are more Things than scientists.

There will be a few roles, but they will only be revealed those players that have them.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know.

[WVUFAN]

Is there still room for me to join?

[Schmidty]

Is there still room for me to join?

Sure. You're in.

[WVUFAN]

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[st.cronin]

game on, you scientifisizzic bizzitches

[Abe Sargent]

Since this is my first WW game, I may stand back a bit and largely observe for the first day or three. Hope nobody minds.

-Anxiety

[st.cronin]

By the way, I have a 15 page paper due on Monday.

[JeeberD]

Since this is my first WW game, I may stand back a bit and largely observe for the first day or three. Hope nobody minds.

-Anxiety

Probably a good way to get yourself killed, Anxiety... :)

[tanglewood]

Scientist ch-ch-check-check ch-ch-checking in.

[mckerney]

Scientist here, checking in.

[hoopsguy]

Another scientist in the mix here.

[Abe Sargent]

I supposed to say I'm a scientist whether or not I am right? So what good does it do?

-Anxiety

[st.cronin]

I supposed to say I'm a scientist whether or not I am right? So what good does it do?

-Anxiety

That's an excellent question. You could say "test me, test me" instead.

[JeeberD]

I'm clean, btw... :)

[WVUFAN]

Clean scientist here.

[dubb93]

Test me, test me.

[dubb93]

DOLA:

OK appears I read the rules wrong. Don't test me, I'm clean :). I was under the impression we could test multiple times a day no matter what, now I see that it only works that way if we get a thing.

[Coffee Warlord]

Don't test me! I'm afraid of needles! Oh my GOD! NO! NOT NEEDLES! NOOO!

...Hi.

[path12]

I am a....THESPIAN! No, wait. Scientist. That's right.

[Coffee Warlord]

Path is a lesbian! That's part Thing! Kill him!

[dubb93]

I'll throw out the first vote,

VOTE SALDANA

[Coffee Warlord]

Uh, it's night zero. No vote.

[path12]

Path is a lesbian! That's part Thing! Kill him!

Man, if I was that'd be so hot.

[JeeberD]

Don't test me! I'm afraid of needles! Oh my GOD! NO! NOT NEEDLES! NOOO!

...Hi.


Only a Thing would think we would use needles. Us scientists know that the real way to take blood is with a razor blade to the thumb...

[Coffee Warlord]

Only a Thing would think we would use needles. Us scientists know that the real way to take blood is with a razor blade to the thumb...

Like anyone would listen to a Cowboys fan. :D

[st.cronin]

By the way, all of you better stay away from my dog. I don't want him turning into a spider.

[path12]

By the way, all of you better stay away from my dog. I don't want him turning into a spider.

I thought you were renting The Fog instead.

[Swaggs]

Checking in and watching things closely.

BTW, Brilliant idea for a Werewolf game. Well done Schmidty.

[Schmidty]

By the way guys, I'm currently doing the first "write-up", but it's cool if everyone wants to get things moving. Please don't vote yet though. It's not the day phase yet.

[st.cronin]

By the way guys, I'm currently doing the first "write-up", but it's cool if everyone wants to get things moving. Please don't vote yet though. It's not the day phase yet.

This post is highly suspicious. VOTE SCHMIDTY

[Blade6119]

Another game, another time for you all to be in reverance of how brilliant i am :)

[dubb93]

By the way guys, I'm currently doing the first "write-up", but it's cool if everyone wants to get things moving. Please don't vote yet though. It's not the day phase yet.

I will not let the man hold down my voting for Saldana!

[saldana]

regular scientist checking in....and the only thing saving you right now dubb my old friend, is schmidty saying i cant vote yet. :)

[st.cronin]

Blade, was there some sort of ultimate frisbee tournament in your vicinity this past weekend?

[WVUFAN]

Everyone who's not a Patriots fan is a Thing, because Tom Brady ain't no Thing.

[Abe Sargent]

Let me make it official:

I'm a scientist thing, but not a thing scientist.


-Anxiety

[Schmidty]

After two days of hard work, the base is starting to look a little bit better, and you all go to bed feeling slightly more at ease.

The next morning, you are all seated in the kitchen eating breakfast when you suddenly hear someone yelling from the direction of the kennel. You all quickly run there and find an appalling sight: the malmute that you had just rescued a few days ago, is transforming into an immense abomination with flailing tentacles which bristles with dozens of razorsharp teeth, a hairless back with large spikes sprouting out of it and glistening muccus dripping from every spot on it's body. Schmidty, the dog handler, is standing in front of the cage yelling unintelligably.

Most of you simply stand in stunned silence; however, Kenny sprints to the shed and grabs the shotgun that it contains. He runs up to the cage and points the gun at the monster that had once been the malmute. Schmidty screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and launches his body at Kenny, bringing him violently to the ground. A struggle ensues, and in the chaos, Schmidty grabs the gun from the hands of Kenny. A few of you rush toward him, but it's too late: Schmidty aims the gun right between Kenny's eyes and pulls the trigger. Kenny's head disappears in an explosion of blood, bone, and brain matter. Someone screams, "Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!!!!" The closest people to Schmidty jump on him and begin wailing on him in a desperate attempt to wrest the gun from his hands. Suddenly, with an exceptional show of strength, Schmidty hurls everyone off of him and rises from the ground, but not before one of you grabs the gun. Then, Schmidty's mouth opens to grotesque proportions. A huge, tongue-like tentacle covered with razor-sharp fangs springs out. Before the "tongue" can do any damage to anyone, the shotgun blows a hole through the back of Schmidty's head.

As Schmidty falls to the ground, you all breathe a sigh of relief. But you realize that the relief was premature: spider-like legs shoot from his stomach and huge mandibles burst from his ass. He flips over and charges. One of you, Jesus, yells "GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!" He reaches into his jacket pocket and pulls out a small glass flask and throws it at the feet of the thing that used to be Schmidty. The flask breaks and douses Schmidty with what is likely some type of booze, and he turns toward Jesus. With a shaking hand, Jesus reaches into the same pocket that contained the flask, and removes a Zippo lighter. He flicks the lighter and throws it at the Thing just as it smashes into his body. Both of their bodies erupt in a torrent of flames as you all watch. the Thing screams and writhes as it shrivels. Jesus tries to crawl away, but it's too late. One of you grabs a fire extinguisher and puts out the blazing corpses.

Beathing heavily with fear and adreniline, you notice that the abominable malamute that is within the cage is growing larger. One of you runs to the workbench next to the shed, and grabs a blowtorch. "I need something else that's flammable!!!! Come on, you lushes!!!!!!" 7 of you sheepishly pull flasks out of your pockets, and offer them up. The malamute is covered with liquor and then set on fire with the blowtorch.

You all check the rest of the area, and then jog toward the main portion of the complex. You slam the entrance, and seal it off.

Breathing heavily within your "sanctuary", you all realize with horror that these monsters can take on the form of any of you. You are all exhausted, but too scared to sleep. You fall into nervous silence.

After a few minutes of rest and paranoia, you start discussing your situation. It's obvious that you need to figure out a way to make sure that none of you are one of Them. It's also clear that they hate fire and excessive heat, so that gives you a good place to start.

After a very long, very heated discussion, it's decided that you will perform a test on a person that you all agree upon, until everyone is absolved or condemned. The test will be performed by taking a blood sample and putting a heated wire into it. The theory is that if any part of a Thing is "attacked", it will be forced to reveal itself.

Even though this half-hearted plan is decided upon, the paranoia and suspicion is thick in the air, and it's apparant that very little sleep will be had in the near future..........

[Blade6119]

Blade, was there some sort of ultimate frisbee tournament in your vicinity this past weekend?
i believe i heared something about one, but i dont know many details...figured it was just an intermural tourney at ASU...whats up? need me to find something for ya?

[Blade6119]

I vote for tanglewood. He was hte first one to say he was a scientist. Maybe he was too eager.


VOTE FOR TANGLEWOOD


-Anxiety



P.S. - Did I do that right?
LOL, i thought you were going to lay low? Drop the for and the have it perfect

Like this:

VOTE TANGLEWOOD

Note, that is not my vote...just showing him the correct form. With schmidty dead i dont know who to vote for...let me look over the check in comments and pick someone

[Blade6119]

VOTE JEEBERD He already said he wants to vote for me, and well, thats good enough for me so far. Hoping someone trips up today and we get something going.

[dubb93]

Vote Saldana. This has been a long time in the making.

[dubb93]

DAMNIT! Too long without werewolf.

VOTE SALDANA

[Qwikshot]

Only a Thing would think we would use needles. Us scientists know that the real way to take blood is with a razor blade to the thumb...

I'll take the Chuck Norris method...a bullet and a bucket to catch the blood.

[Raiders Army]

Simple, but extremely brilliant scientist checking in.

[JeeberD]

Vote Blade

I was just joking the first time, but what the hell?

[Barkeep49]

I'm kind of bummed that I didn't get a role. (As in I think schmidty didn't realize I was playing).

[Qwikshot]

Damn kind of fast and furious this time round.

[Raiders Army]

So we lost Kenny, Schmidty, and Jesus. A little help from Jesus would've been nice...

[Qwikshot]

After rereading, if you get accused and you aren't a thing, then you are still alive?

[JeeberD]

That's how I understand it...

[Abe Sargent]

LOL, i thought you were going to lay low? Drop the for and the have it perfect

Like this:

VOTE TANGLEWOOD

Note, that is not my vote...just showing him the correct form. With schmidty dead i dont know who to vote for...let me look over the check in comments and pick someone


I did.


-Anxiety

[JeeberD]

I did.


-Anxiety


Just for future reference, editing VOTE posts is highly frowned upon...

[Abe Sargent]

I vote for tanglewood. He was hte first one to say he was a scientist. Maybe he was too eager.


VOTE TANGLEWOOD


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Just for future reference, editing VOTE posts is highly frowned upon...


Okay - I deleted it and reposted it.


-Anxiety

[saldana]

ahh, i love the smell of fresh thing in the morning.

and for this afternoon's no brainer:

vote dubb93

[saldana]

After rereading, if you get accused and you aren't a thing, then you are still alive?


that was how i understood it....we could make this a really short game if we get lucky...if we get a thing, then we get to test again, if we can catch some connections between people, then we could theoretically run the table on the things in one day.

[saldana]

Vote Saldana. This has been a long time in the making.

friggin amateur!

[Raiders Army]

Okay - I deleted it and reposted it.


-Anxiety
Ummm...that's probably even worse. Whatever you post, leave it in the thread.

[Qwikshot]

Ummm...that's probably even worse. Whatever you post, leave it in the thread.

Anxiety is anxious. Do not delete anything in the game...

[Coffee Warlord]

Vote Jeeber

I know he harbors a secret love interest with TO.

[JeeberD]

That has got to be the most foul thing I've heard in my entire life.

Unvote Blade

Vote CW

[saldana]

slow day 1, where are blade and hoops?

[Schmidty]

that was how i understood it....we could make this a really short game if we get lucky...if we get a thing, then we get to test again, if we can catch some connections between people, then we could theoretically run the table on the things in one day.

This is true, but as I mentioned earlier (and was debating), there will only be two testings a day at most.

[hoopsguy]

I'm going to be a little challenged in terms of Internet access in the early part of the game - we have a new client that has pretty much swamped my daytime schedule (see post #61) and as a result I'm going to be posting less than usual this time around.

I'll be taking some time to review posts when I get home this evening, but I don't have any good "reads" at this point (at least on who might be a "thing). Pretty typical Day 1 ...

[Schmidty]

Day 1 will end at 9 pm EST tonight.

[Raiders Army]

regular scientist checking in....and the only thing saving you right now dubb my old friend, is schmidty saying i cant vote yet. :)
Without anything else to go on, I

VOTE SALDANA

Day 1 is always a crapshoot, and the regular doesn't seem right.

[saldana]

Without anything else to go on, I

VOTE SALDANA

Day 1 is always a crapshoot, and the regular doesn't seem right.


interesting, i always enjoy watching who the first person to put a second vote on someone is, especially iirc, you are usually one to avoid having your vote be significant on day one.

[Raiders Army]

For the past few games, yeah, I've tried to lay low. FWIW, I never put too much stock in the second vote. I'm more of a third, fourth, etc. vote type guy.

[st.cronin]

vote JeeberD

no reason, it's day 1

[WVUFAN]

Eeny meeney miney ...

VOTE JEEBER

Because he was beating me in Civ4 a few turns back.

[path12]

VOTE CRONIN

First day. No reason.

[JeeberD]

interesting, i always enjoy watching who the first person to put a second vote on someone is, especially iirc, you are usually one to avoid having your vote be significant on day one.


Just so you know, I was the first person with two votes and CW cast the second one on me... ;)

Voting for me is just gonna clear me, fellas. And The Thing will get one of us tonight...

[JeeberD]

Eeny meeney miney ...

VOTE JEEBER

Because he was beating me in Civ4 a few turns back.

I think you're on top now, though. :(

[Lathum]

you werewolf guys are dorks

:)


sorry i missed this one...

[mckerney]

Vote Coffee Warlord

Only a thing would accuse someone of loving TO.

[Raiders Army]

Interesting. I see this as a win-win situation with every vote. Either we clear someone or we get a Thing. The problem is that we know that person is cleared for only one day. After that, we have no idea.

[Coffee Warlord]

Interesting. I see this as a win-win situation with every vote. Either we clear someone or we get a Thing. The problem is that we know that person is cleared for only one day. After that, we have no idea.

Which is also the problem. Do we waste votes the next day on people cleared, or do we go after others? Rough.

[st.cronin]

I see this game as very heavily slanted towards the Thing(s). Without knowing what the special roles are, my strategy (were I a thing) would simply be to add the better, more experienced players to our side. If they last more than about 2 nights, they will likely win.

Of course, they might only start out with 1 Thing - that would change things a bit.

[Raiders Army]

Which is also the problem. Do we waste votes the next day on people cleared, or do we go after others? Rough.
Yeah, that is a problem. If I were one of them I would definitely target one of the people who was cleared. I wouldn't think there would be only one of them; I would guess two. If there were only one of them, it would be a pretty quick game if we got lucky on day 1. Any more than two and it tilts the odds too much in their favor.

[tanglewood]

As a Thing, a clear strategy is to try and get people on their side who are tested early. However, if we then take that to mean that we shouldn't regard testing as accurate then we throw away our only weapon and are down to flying on instinct, so we have to place some faith in the test results at least. I reckon that we will need wither a good slice of luck at a cruical point or a monumental performance from one or two peeps to win this.

[tanglewood]

Dola

Well seems like I basically just repeated what cronin and RA said. Should perhaps read before posting next time...

[tanglewood]

Random day one vote:

Vote path12

[Coffee Warlord]

Hopefully there's at least a couple seer types in this game. We realllllly need more ways to confirm people rather than votes.

[Raiders Army]

This is true, but as I mentioned earlier (and was debating), there will only be two testings a day at most.
[put on Dwight hat for a second]

Question: If we reveal a scientist, can we choose another to test?
Question: If so, how is that person picked?

[/put on Dwight hat for a second]

[Raiders Army]

By the way, I've decided to run this game a bit differently than some of the others.

Instead of voting for who is lynched every day, you will be voting on who will be tested by drawing blood) each day. If the player that is tested turns out to be a Thing, he will be killed, and the players will be allowed to choose someone else to be tested. (I am trying to decide if I will allow more than two testings a day or not)

Instead of making kills during the night cycle, the Things will be able to convert/infect a scientist. This will obviously make that scientist a Thing.

The game will be over when either A) there are no Things left, or B) there are more Things than scientists.

There will be a few roles, but they will only be revealed those players that have them.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know.
From this, I can't determine if we choose a scientist that we can choose another person.

[Raiders Army]

Double dola,

If we do pick a scientist and we can pick another person to test, then it might be prudent to vote for a "known" person to clear them and then have the secondary votes available to out an unknown person. How we could coordinate this, I don't know (i've had a few beers).


Why not just test everyone at one time in the movie? :)

[Schmidty]

From this, I can't determine if we choose a scientist that we can choose another person.

You are only allowed to make a second pick if you get a Thing first.

[Raiders Army]

How is the second pick made?

[Schmidty]

How is the second pick made?

A second vote before the night phase.

[Coffee Warlord]

As in....we continue voting after the day phase is over, and that one is calculated at the onset of day 2?

Like...

Day 1: Vote Bill
End of Day 1: Bill Cleared
Night 1: Vote Steve
End of Night 1: Steve Cleared

[Coffee Warlord]

Oh. Nevermind.

Only if a THING is picked.

[saldana]

i figure there have to be some scientists with immunity to conversion among us as well as a seer type. I agree that there arent likely to be more than 3 things at the very most. (more likely 2, based on the number of players in the game)

[Qwikshot]

vote Hoops

Okay, I think we should clear the veteren players first, guys like Blade and Hoops are dangerous as baddies. I think the seer should be checking out these guys.

I think this makes sense, I'm gonna go cower in a corner now til daylight.

[Swaggs]

Random first day vote: Vote path12

[Raiders Army]

I have a feeling about Blade that he's a good guy (again). hoops I have no idea about. FWIW, I feel about as good about Blade as I feel as bad about saldana. Blade said that he was brilliant like me. saldana said he was a regular scientist which rang a little strange to me.

As it stands right now, I'm not changing my vote. I'm out until after Survivor (it's over 9 EST).

[Qwikshot]

As in....we continue voting after the day phase is over, and that one is calculated at the onset of day 2?

Like...

Day 1: Vote Bill
End of Day 1: Bill Cleared
Night 1: Vote Steve
End of Night 1: Steve Cleared

Are looking for this guy?

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/Thing_comics.png

[hoopsguy]

Qwik, I've got no problem with the seer checking me out ASAP. But the seer, just like the testing we do, is "limited-time only" value, since someone who is cleared publicly becomes a better target for the "Thing(s)" later in the game.

I'm very eager to get into the game and see what kind of roles emerge, because I think we scientists are really up against it if we are playing with standard roles, especially in the early stages.

Here is what I have for the vote count so far, as of Post #172:
JeeberD - Blade (119), CW (139), Cronin (148), WVU (149)
Saldana - Dubb (121), Raiders (145)
Tanglewood - Anxiety (132)
Dubb - Saldana (134)
CW - JeeberD (140), mckerney (154)
Cronin - Path (150)
Path - Tanglewood (161)
Hoops - Qwik (172)

[Schmidty]

Current votes:

saldana (2)- dubb, Raiders Army

JeeberD (4)- Blade, Coffee Warlord, st. cronin, WVUFAN

Coffee Warlord (2)- JeeberD, mckerney

tanglewood (1) - Anxiety

dubb - (1) saldana

st. cronin (1) - path12

path12 - (2) tanglewood, Swaggs

hoopsguy (1) - Qwikshot

[Schmidty]

By the way, if pennywise doen't check in by the deadline tonight, I'm going to try to find a replacement.

[Qwikshot]

Qwik, I've got no problem with the seer checking me out ASAP. But the seer, just like the testing we do, is "limited-time only" value, since someone who is cleared publicly becomes a better target for the "Thing(s)" later in the game.

I'm very eager to get into the game and see what kind of roles emerge, because I think we scientists are really up against it if we are playing with standard roles, especially in the early stages.

Here is what I have for the vote count so far, as of Post #172:
JeeberD - Blade (119), CW (139), Cronin (148), WVU (149)
Saldana - Dubb (121), Raiders (145)
Tanglewood - Anxiety (132)
Dubb - Saldana (134)
CW - JeeberD (140), mckerney (154)
Cronin - Path (150)
Path - Tanglewood (161)
Hoops - Qwik (172)

True, it's a risky prop all around...but I'd rather know you as clear now then be wondering...it's all a crapshoot anyway. I'd much rather know you have my back then turn my back on you. (oos: You are dangerous in prior games, I only vote you out of respect to your prior gamemanship)

[hoopsguy]

Raiders, if we are coming out with the "brilliant" bit then you actually missed someone who said it - Swaggs.


I had seen this when I posted in #143 but didn't want to bring this out.

but I don't have any good "reads" at this point (at least on who might be a "thing).

If you read between the lines, you can construe that I had some reads on who might be a scientist and it was because of the use of the word brilliant, which was found in my scientist description.

This type of hint is becoming the new "villager secret code" which I don't really think is 100% in the spirit of the game. I know that in the next game I run that I will make deliberate efforts to negate this type of play for all parties.

[hoopsguy]

Swaggs - post #107
BTW, Brilliant idea for a Werewolf game. Well done Schmidty.

[hoopsguy]

I would encourage people not to vote for someone who has come out with "brilliant" today for this action only - but that each of these people should be fair game for tomorrow due to the strong likelihood of a conversion.

That would mean that I'm asking Qwikshot to change his vote for today. I'm not worried about being tested, but I do want us to get a Thing at the deadline and I'm confident that at this moment Swaggs, Blade, and Raiders (as confident as I can reasonably be, anyways) are scientists on Day 1.

VOTE ST. CRONIN

Not a ton of reasons - avoiding one of the people I consider safe at the moment while putting a vote on someone who contributed to the only thing we have resembling a bandwagon so far.

[dubb93]

Raiders, if we are coming out with the "brilliant" bit then you actually missed someone who said it - Swaggs.


I had seen this when I posted in #143 but didn't want to bring this out.



If you read between the lines, you can construe that I had some reads on who might be a scientist and it was because of the use of the word brilliant, which was found in my scientist description.

This type of hint is becoming the new "villager secret code" which I don't really think is 100% in the spirit of the game. I know that in the next game I run that I will make deliberate efforts to negate this type of play for all parties.


Actually I think this hurts you a little in my book Hoopsguy. If you don't quite get the "brilliant" blurb, that leads me to believe you didn't get a simliar PM to what some of the rest of us got. It refers to us as simple, but brilliant :). I didn't want to bring that up, but since it is already out in the open I see no problem with it.

What you quoted has nothing to do with that.

[hoopsguy]

Dubb, I don't know how to respond to that short of saying the whole PM.

By you expandeding on this, I believe that you are also telling the truth, but all we are doing by expanding this list is giving the "Thing(s)" a longer list of players who have no role that will allow us to defend ourselves against them. And for a player who might be able to protect, they now have a bigger group of people to consider protecting from a conversion.

All that said, I would ask Saldana to move his vote to someone who is more likely to be a Thing on this day.

[saldana]

I have a feeling about Blade that he's a good guy (again). hoops I have no idea about. FWIW, I feel about as good about Blade as I feel as bad about saldana. Blade said that he was brilliant like me. saldana said he was a regular scientist which rang a little strange to me.

As it stands right now, I'm not changing my vote. I'm out until after Survivor (it's over 9 EST).


could you at least try to put comments into context....blade never said he was a brillian scientist...in fact, he has never even posted the standard "scientist checking in" statement, brilliant or otherwise. all he said was that this game is another opportunity for us to bask in his brilliance.

so then, everyone that didnt say "brilliant" in their check in posts must be a thing....that means that anyone that said "regular", "clean", "simple" or just "scientist" must be a thing.....outstanding logic...by this reasoning, the following is a list of the things:

tanglewood - just said scientist
mckerney - just said scientist
hoops - just said scientist
wfu - said clean scientist
jeebs - said he was clean
path - said he was a thespian
saldana - said he was regular


this doesnt even account for the people that didnt say anything, used the word brilliant in another form, or didnt check in at all....nice logic...if we all learned anything from the Lost game, its that the DM should have sent out different PM's to everyone to stop this from happening...i know i did for starwars...every pm was different.

[saldana]

dola, and if people want to buy raiders logic, test away, i've go no problem with it, since the word brilliant was in my pm, i just didnt use it in my post because i didnt think it would be another "simple" situation.

[hoopsguy]

Saldana, I think that this game may help regulate the "shared code" behavior going forward if there are a significant number of conversions. But it does give an unfair advantage on Day 1 to the scientists.

That said, why is your vote still on Dubb if you got the PM you say you did? ;)

[hoopsguy]

By you expandeding on this

Man, I wish it was kosher to edit posts in WW ... that one is uglier than most of my typos.

[WVUFAN]

dola, and if people want to buy raiders logic, test away, i've go no problem with it, since the word brilliant was in my pm, i just didnt use it in my post because i didnt think it would be another "simple" situation.

As someone else has said, this game is heavily slanted to the Things, since no one will truly ever be safe. I just have the nagging feeling we're gonna wind up testing the same people over and over under the assumption that the Things will infect those pronounced "clean" on the prior night's test. We have no way to prounouncing anyone "safe", unlike prior games.

Tricky game. This is gonna be tough.

[Qwikshot]

unvote hoops
vote cronin

At hoops request; I think you are reading far too into it...I mean, that's a lot of scrutinzing to catch brilliant and regular scientist...

[dubb93]

Man, I wish it was kosher to edit posts in WW ... that one is uglier than most of my typos.

You should see how long it takes me to act as editor for my dynasty. Writing it is the easy part, finding and fixing all my typos takes all the time. :)

[Qwikshot]

maybe I look at things too lightly, thats why I'm always getting killed, I guess.

[hoopsguy]

I'm not sure that the game is heavily slanted towards the Things - without any knowledge of the numbers, roles, etc it is very hard to predict something like that. I'll trust that Schmidty has thought about the rule set and balance issues before putting this out there.

That said, I haven't seen the movie. Is there any reason to expect that the Things are not converting every night, but instead will be coming with a mix of kills and conversions?

Is there any deviation of "Thing" roles in the movie? Or are the enemies identical in all aspects? Just trying to get some understanding of what we might be facing ...

[hoopsguy]

Not exactly deadline drama today ...

[Qwikshot]

I'm not sure that the game is heavily slanted towards the Things - without any knowledge of the numbers, roles, etc it is very hard to predict something like that. I'll trust that Schmidty has thought about the rule set and balance issues before putting this out there.

That said, I haven't seen the movie. Is there any reason to expect that the Things are not converting every night, but instead will be coming with a mix of kills and conversions?

Is there any deviation of "Thing" roles in the movie? Or are the enemies identical in all aspects? Just trying to get some understanding of what we might be facing ...


Macready and Childs are the badasses, in the end, no one really knows if they were not assimilated...I'm leaning that neither was...everyone else is assimilated or killed, including beloved Quaker Oats guy!

[Barkeep49]

Ok I haven't read this thread, so perhaps I will regret this later, but I want to get it out there: I am the hunter. I will be killing someone tonight.

EDIT -- To clarify my role isn't called that, but it's essentially what I am.

[Qwikshot]

Ok I haven't read this thread, so perhaps I will regret this later, but I want to get it out there: I am the hunter. I will be killing someone tonight.

Uh...is this Chuck Norris?

[dubb93]

Ok I haven't read this thread, so perhaps I will regret this later, but I want to get it out there: I am the hunter. I will be killing someone tonight.

EDIT -- To clarify my role isn't called that, but it's essentially what I am.

I find the wording on this pretty funny. So are we just supposed to sit back and wait for you to kill someone? And why would you choose tonight where you have absolutely no information to go on?

[Qwikshot]

Ok I haven't read this thread, so perhaps I will regret this later, but I want to get it out there: I am the hunter. I will be killing someone tonight.

EDIT -- To clarify my role isn't called that, but it's essentially what I am.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/chuck-norris.jpg


Don't mind me I'm having fun with images...

[Qwikshot]

Chuck Norris doesn't go hunting; he goes killing

[dubb93]

LOL, Barkeep is the man.

[saldana]

Ok I haven't read this thread, so perhaps I will regret this later, but I want to get it out there: I am the hunter. I will be killing someone tonight.

EDIT -- To clarify my role isn't called that, but it's essentially what I am.
are you even playing? seriously, are you in the game...i know you said you tried to be, but i didnt know if schmidty squeezed you in.

[Barkeep49]

Ok read the thread. Much easier then expected. Schmidty is having me replace Pennywise. As stated earlier I will be killing somebody tonight.

[Barkeep49]

I find the wording on this pretty funny. So are we just supposed to sit back and wait for you to kill someone? And why would you choose tonight where you have absolutely no information to go on?
Because it takes a possible thing conversion out of the game. Because it generates some discussion in this thread.

Because I'm not going to sit around and shit away my power to kill one of you mother fuckers.

[hoopsguy]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.star-collector.net/autographs/freddryer.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.star-collector.net/months/monthjun03.htm&h=364&w=300&sz=26&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=3Uxk2CWCzyZQMM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhunter%2Bfred%2Bdryer%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
Let's see if this works ...

[hoopsguy]

Drat - I'm image retarded.
hxxp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.star-collector.net/autographs/freddryer.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.star-collector.net/months/monthjun03.htm&h=364&w=300&sz=26&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=3Uxk2CWCzyZQMM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhunter%2Bfred%2Bdryer%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN (http://www.star-collector.net/autographs/freddryer.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.star-collector.net/months/monthjun03.htm&h=364&w=300&sz=26&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=3Uxk2CWCzyZQMM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhunter%2Bfred%2Bdryer%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)

[Coffee Warlord]

Hooookay.

[Coffee Warlord]

Unvote Jeebs, President of the TO Fanclub

Vote Barkeep

I wanna see if you are on the up and up.

[Coffee Warlord]

Of course, it's after 9pm so it doesn't really matter. Heh. :)

Stupid EST

[Qwikshot]

Because it takes a possible thing conversion out of the game. Because it generates some discussion in this thread.

Because I'm not going to sit around and shit away my power to kill one of you mother fuckers.

My bad you aren't Chuck; you are this guy

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/pf_sam.gif

[Barkeep49]

Oh the dead body will tell you that I'm on the up and up.

[Qwikshot]

Oh the dead body will tell you that I'm on the up and up.

"but I'm trying /hard/ to be the shepherd"

[Barkeep49]

So what you're pumpkin?

[Barkeep49]

Schmidty can you confirm what you get a moment that I'm actually in the game and just not cockslapping these guys?

[Qwikshot]

So what you're pumpkin?

huh?

[Schmidty]

After much debate, many arguments, and accusations, you are totally unable to come to a decision. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason to test anyone, but you realize that someone needs to be the first to be tested. Frustration starts to morph into anger, and various shouting matches break out.

"Test me."

You all turn toward the only silent person throughout this whole debate: JeeberD. One of you incredulously asks, "Why in the world would you want to be tested?"

"Why in the world wouldn't I want to be tested? I'm clean. I highly doubt that all of you are one of these things, so I'm suprised that you're even arguing about being tested - Unless you have something to hide."

JeeberD sits down at the table, grabs the syringe, and draws some blood. He pours the blood into the petri dish, heats a piece of wire with the blow torch, and quickly rams it into the dish.

Nothing.

JeeberD is obviously not one of those monsters.



Night actions are due by 9 a.m. EST.

saldana (2)- dubb, Raiders Army
JeeberD (4)- Blade, Coffee Warlord, st. cronin, WVUFAN
Coffee Warlord (2)- JeeberD, mckerney
tanglewood (1) - Anxiety
dubb - (1) saldana
st. cronin (2) - path12, hoopsguy
path12 - (2) tanglewood, Swaggs
hoopsguy (1) - Qwikshot

[Barkeep49]

My kill is in and now the clock of life be tickin'

[hoopsguy]

Well, guess that eliminates the need to have that as a topic of discussion while we wait for morning.

Hope you hit either a Thing or a Thing target. Based on the initial list we started building I think you have a much better shot with a Night 1 kill than most games.

[JeeberD]

I told you SOBs that I'm clean... :)

Dude, Schmidty...it's a freakin' razor blade to the thumb!

[dubb93]

Is there any evidence that Barkeep is in this game? I'm been waiting for confirmation and I see nothing. Kind of hard to play when you don't know who is in the damn game.

[Schmidty]

I told you SOBs that I'm clean... :)

Dude, Schmidty...it's a freakin' razor blade to the thumb!

I have to be honest - I've watched the movie 4 or 5 times, but I haven't seen it in like 3 years, so I was winging it. :)

[Schmidty]

Is there any evidence that Barkeep is in this game? I'm been waiting for confirmation and I see nothing. Kind of hard to play when you don't know who is in the damn game.

MY fault for not totally confirming it, although it hasn't affected anything, as he didn't replace pennywise until after the deadline.

Barkeep has replaced pennywise.

[dubb93]

MY fault for not totally confirming it, although it hasn't affected anything, as he didn't replace pennywise until after the deadline.

Barkeep has replaced pennywise.

No problem, I wasn't aware when he replaced Penny. Thanks for confirming it. Can't wait to see how Barkeep plays his role.

[Blade6119]

I find the wording on this pretty funny. So are we just supposed to sit back and wait for you to kill someone?
Ummm, i hate to break it to you but we can't really do a damn thing to stop him. Though if i was around(which i wont be much until this weekend), he would have been my vote as he may be a thing that knows he can kill tonight. Sorry to waste a lynch on ya jeebs, and now make you a top suspect tomorrow. My vote that started it was all for fun between mods, didnt really expect you to get the vote.


As for the brilliant thing, here was my post(the first to mention brilliant):

Another game, another time for you all to be in reverance of how brilliant i am :)

I got it in my PM, i didnt see schmidty lay out any rules against using it as a code to find get on a few trust lists at first. I never saw the other players post the brilliant thing(someone want to quote them all for me). Hoops seemed to just grasp on to the idea, where as dubb and raiders knew what they were talking about. Either way, i think today was a very bad day. I was hoping(damn you raiders) no one would say it out loud, but just see it and go about their days. Now, we have made the Things job far easier and ours far more difficult. They have a couple confirmed villagers, and a couple not. Depending on which way they want to go, either way their job just got a lot easier. Damn you all :(

[Blade6119]

Dola, the one bright spot left is that there are other parts of the PM yet discussed we can still use as a clue if needed. But really, after one conversion that whole key will fall to us. So do you all want to use the other parts of the PM tonight/in the morning? It might at first give us a group to look at. Hell, use it to clear all the villagers we can, and then look at the group of around 6(2-3 things) and just test away

[Blade6119]

Double Dola, this may be a black hole, a vortex, the end of the world as we know it. Schmidty is the top poster in a WW thread and im nowhere near the top. What is the world coming to :) Just joking, not attacking you schmidty!!!

[Raiders Army]

I got it in my PM, i didnt see schmidty lay out any rules against using it as a code to find get on a few trust lists at first. I never saw the other players post the brilliant thing(someone want to quote them all for me). Hoops seemed to just grasp on to the idea, where as dubb and raiders knew what they were talking about. Either way, i think today was a very bad day. I was hoping(damn you raiders) no one would say it out loud, but just see it and go about their days. Now, we have made the Things job far easier and ours far more difficult. They have a couple confirmed villagers, and a couple not. Depending on which way they want to go, either way their job just got a lot easier. Damn you all :(
Maybe I need to reread the whole thread, but...

1. I don't understand how we've made their job far easier and our far more difficult. Wouldn't they know who they are? Maybe I'm getting the tradditional rules of WW mixed up with what's happening now.

2. As I said before, I didn't put too much stock into the whole thing...although I find saldana's reaction interesting. FWIW, I keyed in on saldana's "regular" and not WVUFan's "clean" because "clean" was used in the post right before WVUFan's checking in post. I also see that I missed a few things with some other stuff that hoops pointed out. *shrug* Didn't mean to start a storm with my comment. Again, I wasn't too sure of what I saw, but barring nothing else to go on day 1, that's what I went with.

I'll keep silent with some other thoughts until after the night cycle.

[Blade6119]

1. I don't understand how we've made their job far easier and our far more difficult. Wouldn't they know who they are? Maybe I'm getting the tradditional rules of WW mixed up with what's happening now
As hoops stated, its a pretty darn safe bet that our seer/special roles got unique PMs...so by us stating this, it takes a nice big chunk(smaller game this time around) out of potential players with a special role...so major blow in my mind

[hoopsguy]

What we have made easier for the things is that they have an idea who the "simple" villagers are, so they can either look to convert them or go after the other villagers who are not known vanilla scientists, in hopes of getting at one of the special roles.

Lets say you are the bodyguard (assuming there is one in this game) - who do you protect last night? The guy who tested clean in Jeeber would make a good option. But so would Dubb, Blade, or any of the others who have vouched for being simple scientists. If there were just 1-2 of these people then you wouldn't have as many choices - just as the "Things" wouldn't have as many clear choices. But with you, me, and Swaggs also as part of the "brilliant" club there are now six people to consider for the protect.

If it has not been posted in the thread perhaps the "Things" would not have picked up on it. But those of us who got that in their PM would have filed this information away and had our own internal trust lists to start working with for Day 1 and beyond - basically until the "Things" picked up on it on their own. I know Dubb thinks that is what I did (and Blade seems receptive to this idea as well) but that isn't the case. I was just a little less direct in publishing this information early.

Of course, if the "seer" buys into the brilliant group, then we have given him a more narrow list to look at for Night 1 so it does cut both ways in that respect as well ...

In terms of trying to use the rest of the PM as ongoing code, I think that our group has already been compromised - this assumes a conversion on Night 1. But I'll play along if that is the direction that people want to go.

Jeebs had posted another word in one of his posts that was in the PM. That, coupled with the lack of late action, made me pretty confident that he would show up scientist. There is one other person who posted a word from the PM. It could be completely random (for both this person and Jeebs) but the fact that they were the only people using these words made me put them on a lesser trust list for Day 1.

FWIW, my vote for Cronin reflected the fact that he was not one of the people to use any of the words in the PM.

[Barkeep49]

Well one of you sons of bitches is dead and all I can say is good riddances to that abomination. Don't want to say more as morning actions haven't been officially posted.

[Blade6119]

Well one of you sons of bitches is dead and all I can say is good riddances to that abomination. Don't want to say more as morning actions haven't been officially posted.
Damn you, i didnt want to die yet...

[Blade6119]

What we have made easier for the things is that they have an idea who the "simple" villagers are, so they can either look to convert them or go after the other villagers who are not known vanilla scientists, in hopes of getting at one of the special roles.

Lets say you are the bodyguard (assuming there is one in this game) - who do you protect last night? The guy who tested clean in Jeeber would make a good option. But so would Dubb, Blade, or any of the others who have vouched for being simple scientists. If there were just 1-2 of these people then you wouldn't have as many choices - just as the "Things" wouldn't have as many clear choices. But with you, me, and Swaggs also as part of the "brilliant" club there are now six people to consider for the protect.

If it has not been posted in the thread perhaps the "Things" would not have picked up on it. But those of us who got that in their PM would have filed this information away and had our own internal trust lists to start working with for Day 1 and beyond - basically until the "Things" picked up on it on their own. I know Dubb thinks that is what I did (and Blade seems receptive to this idea as well) but that isn't the case. I was just a little less direct in publishing this information early.

Of course, if the "seer" buys into the brilliant group, then we have given him a more narrow list to look at for Night 1 so it does cut both ways in that respect as well ...

In terms of trying to use the rest of the PM as ongoing code, I think that our group has already been compromised - this assumes a conversion on Night 1. But I'll play along if that is the direction that people want to go.

Jeebs had posted another word in one of his posts that was in the PM. That, coupled with the lack of late action, made me pretty confident that he would show up scientist. There is one other person who posted a word from the PM. It could be completely random (for both this person and Jeebs) but the fact that they were the only people using these words made me put them on a lesser trust list for Day 1.

FWIW, my vote for Cronin reflected the fact that he was not one of the people to use any of the words in the PM.
My point about the PM is it wont be compromised until the night actions are processed...but since no one is around it doesnt do much good, as i imagine it will become compromised early in the morning

[hoopsguy]

I'm very amused by the salty Barkeep - wonder if it is something in the role PM or if he is just playing angry this game to mix things up?

[Coffee Warlord]

It's gonna hugely suck if he kills me.

[JeeberD]

Barkeep has got to be Childs...he was always a mean SOB. :)

[Barkeep49]

Well I had been hoping results would be posted before I have to leave. They're not. I killed a thing last night. Guarenteed.


As I know I'm still not a thing I'm going to

Vote Hoopsguy

I don't know when this vote deadline is going to be. If my luck doesn't completely suck I will be out though until either right around it or even after it. Good luck to you mofos.

[Raiders Army]

As hoops stated, its a pretty darn safe bet that our seer/special roles got unique PMs...so by us stating this, it takes a nice big chunk(smaller game this time around) out of potential players with a special role...so major blow in my mind
Gotcha. I'm not sure if I'd take too much stock in the original PM. My first thought at seeing brilliant was that I had a hidden ability. Obviously that isn't so with so many people getting the same words.

[Raiders Army]

hoops is a good choice. If I were a Thing, I'd want to convert him as soon as possible.

Depending on what happens in the night actions, I'd think that the two biggest candidates for conversion would be Jeebs and hoops.

[hoopsguy]

Here are my thought processes on the vote today - keep in mind that I'm putting these out without any knowledge of night actions so I'm hoping that there is no real reason to question my motives in posting here:

1. We probably started out with multiple things (not 100% sure, but would be a pretty weak game if there was only one and we get lucky on Day 1 before he can convert)
2. We have an initial circle of trust from the "brilliant" clue plus Jeebs being picked out
3. We only have 16 people in the game

I would rather take a shot at an original "Thing" with the initial vote than try to guess who would have been converted.

Suspicion List: St. Cronin, Tanglewood, Path12, Saldana, Qwikshot, Barkeep
, mckerney, Coffee, Anxiety, and WVUFan

I don't have all of these guys weighted equally in terms of suspicion, but I'm pretty confident that I will fire my vote towards someone in this group, barring a seer reveal or some equally compelling evidence.

[Raiders Army]

I agree with your logic.

I would rather take a shot at an original "Thing" with the initial vote than try to guess who would have been converted.

I agree with this as well since it's going to be waaaaaaay easier to pick off an original Thing instead of someone who was converted. This leads me to believe that there is no way they can convert someone every night. If they did, that would weight the game too much in favor of the Things. Every time we would catch an orginal Thing, they would have converted someone the night prior. So I would guess that maybe we have a little more of a window in terms of trusting people.

Let's say they're playing by tradditional WW rules. I would guess that they couldn't convert someone on Night 0, but could convert someone last night. I'm thinking that whoever we vote to be tested today would be good for tomorrow as well. Thoughts?

[Raiders Army]

Hmmm...maybe the balance is that we can test two people if we catch a Thing on the first test. Still, I think the game would be too unbalanced if they could convert someone every night.

[mckerney]

I agree with this as well since it's going to be waaaaaaay easier to pick off an original Thing instead of someone who was converted.

We do have the ability to test a second person if we catch a thing, so maybe the best idea for now would be to try and go for an original at first, then a possible convert if we get one.

[saldana]

1. i like the idea of looking for the orginal first, this is what i was talking about trying to do about 150 posts ago when i said we could run the table on the things in one night, depending on how many there are

2. regarding my reaction to RA,vanyone that has played enough of these games with me will see a familiarity with what i had to say and how i said it...the logic was deeply flawed, and i cant stand people basing their decisions on flawed logic...it irritates the crap out of me, not to mention that outing something like that on the first day is a bad move...iirc, the survivors kept it under their hats for 3 days and it worked alot more in their favor.

3. i will be out most of the day, driving to baltimore.

[Coffee Warlord]

Question - Are we on pause for the weekend or not?

[saldana]

i'm assuming schmidty will tell us that when he posts the night and gives us the day deadline.

[st.cronin]

I'm just a scientist, guys.

I haven't really gotten my head around this game yet.

[path12]

As for the brilliant thing in the PM's, I didn't mention it because I'm in the camp that it's a little unbalancing. The main issue in the game as I see it is that once someone is cleared they can become converted that night.

I think the key is in the double vote days. For instance, if we can bag a thing on the first vote I'd go for one of the cleared people on the second in order to stop the spread.

[tanglewood]

As for the brilliant thing in the PM's, I didn't mention it because I'm in the camp that it's a little unbalancing. The main issue in the game as I see it is that once someone is cleared they can become converted that night.

I think the key is in the double vote days. For instance, if we can bag a thing on the first vote I'd go for one of the cleared people on the second in order to stop the spread.

I also didn't put anything in my first post as I see it as a kind of meta-gaming. No tthe more serious kind which I think people should be removed from playing for, but a slightly grey area over gaming ethics if it should be allowed IMHO.

Of course another reason is that I don't think it's all that usefull as major proponents want to make out. Firstly, it's quite possible that the Things can latch onto a group early on, an expereinced player could pick up on certain phrases or words and drop them into his post. Then we have 'cleared' a Thing for nothing more than doing a good job of straightowardly imitating someone else (I believe that a few games ago Blade complained that a wolf, AlanT IIRC, did this, simply imitating his posting style and use of phrase, thus Blade cleared him). Another is that it's not necessarily true that we all got the same PM, nor can we be certain that everything in our PM was not sent to the Things also. Of course, if the Things got the info in our PM then it all goes to hell as they jump in the 'cleared' group and all of us are pretty much walking blind. In that not unlikely scenario it's more helpful to [i]not[/i ] mention PMs at all.

[Schmidty]

THERE WILL BE NO MORE DISCUSSION OF PMs IN ANY FORM IN THIS GAME.

I thought you guys would know that, since it was considered dishonorable after the Lost game.

[Schmidty]

You are soundly asleep when one of you wakes you all up, and points out the fact that there's a definite smell of burning flesh in the air. You all head out toward the smell, but you don't have to go far before you notice wisps of some coming from the door to the kennel.

Inside you find a large black mass of burning flesh. At first, you assume it's a dog, but when you get closer you see that although having almost been reduce to cinders, there are what resemble the arms and legs of a human.

You quickly take stock of who's around you, and realize that Qwikshot is no where to be found.

This is not a good way to start the day.