Poker: FOFC Heads Up Tournament

[Radii]

I would definitely be interested in this.

[Radii]

ugh, stupid timestamp bug

[primelord]

I brought this idea up a while ago, but it didn't seem to gain a lot of traction at the time. I was curious to see if there was any more interest now. I'd like to setup an FOFC heads up tournament. Stars would be the best place to set this up at since they allow the creation of private heads up tournaments. I would have to look into what buy ins they allow, but I was just thinking something along the lines of 5-10 dollars Edit: I can't create a tournament for less than $10 so the tournament will be a $10+1 . Would there be any interest in something like this?

Tournament Format

There has been some questions below on how the tournament works so I will try and give a description of how this will come together. Whatever fee for the tournament we settle on will be a one time fee just like a regular sit and go. So if we went with $10 then it would be a 10 + 1. We will need to settle on a time for everyone as the tournament takes place at all at once. If we have 16 people we will all be split up into 8 heads up matches randomly by Stars at the same time. Once each of those 8 matches are completed the winners will then be randomly paird up by Stars for the next round and then down to two etc. It's a bracket-style tournamnet just like the NCAA tournament. Depending on the number of participants we could have some buys in the first round. The number of places paid out is determined by the total number of entries.

We will use NL Hold 'Em for this tournament. If we has some support for limit hold 'em as well I wouldn't mind trying to setup another tournament in the future with that format. For now though we will go with no-limit. Whatever time we settle on make sure you block out a few hours for the tournament to complete. The next round doesn't start until everyone in the current round finishes their match. In the first round everyone starts with 1,500 chips and the blinds are 10/20 and escalate along the normal Stars timeline. The second round everyone starts with 3,000 chips and the blinds start at 20/40 and so on. If you ahve any questions or I haven't been clear enough let me know.

I will keep a list of the people interested below.

Tournament Details

Date: Saturday April 1st
Time: 10 PM ET, 9 PM CT, 7 PM PT
Tournament Name: FOFC Heads Up Tournament #1
Tournament ID#: 22144698
Password: solecismic

Participant List for Tourney #1
primelord
Radii
kingfc22
Maple Leafs
Huckleberry
cartman
kcchief19
Barkeep49
Chris
Malificent

Possible Participants for Tourney #1
rkmsuf
Johnny93g
mooreadamc
-apoc-

Interest in Future Tournaments
Vince
Simms
TheLionKing
JeeberD
CubsFan915
Lathum

[primelord]

Added a running list of the people interested. Radii and myself so far. :)

[kingfc22]

I'd be interested

[Simms]

If it's a single, heads-up MTT (ie, bracket-style) then I'd definitely be up for this. If it's a series of 2-person SnGs, then it'll have to be cheaper than $5-10 a shot. :)

[primelord]

If it's a single, heads-up MTT (ie, bracket-style) then I'd definitely be up for this. If it's a series of 2-person SnGs, then it'll have to be cheaper than $5-10 a shot. :)

Simms,

It is a bracket-style tournament. Once all the first round matches are complete Stars will randomly pair all the winners for the 2nd round and so forth until we have a winner. All in one tournament.

[Simms]

Simms,

It is a bracket-style tournament. Once all the first round matches are complete Stars will randomly pair all the winners for the 2nd round and so forth until we have a winner. All in one tournament.

Then count me in. :)

[Maple Leafs]

I'm not much for heads up, but since we don't seem to do the FOFC tourneys any more then this sounds like a decent substitute.

[cartman]

I'm interested as well.

Sorry about not setting up a Colossal Squid tourney as of late. A bunch of other crap has been interrupting my poker time, and I just keep forgetting. I'll get one set up for this Sunday evening, and post the thread in a bit.

[mooreadamc]

Depends when but I could be swayed :). It's a one-time $5-10 fee right?

[rkmsuf]

I'd be interested.

What's the timing on this type of thing? Do the two players set their own time for a match?

[Subby]

I would like to be included, please. LHE or NLHE?

[Neuqua]

I'll keep my eye on this thread for more details to be posted.

[Vince]

I'd be interested as well, but my availability is spotty, as I am not only on the West Coast, but I wait tables, so I'm usually not available in the evenings. Like Neuqua, I'll be following along as information presents itself.

[cartman]

I'd be interested.

What's the timing on this type of thing? Do the two players set their own time for a match?

It's a scheduled event, where everyone sits down at the same time. Once all first round games are done, then the second round starts. So if you bust your opponent on the first hand, you'll have to wait for all of the other matches to finish before you play again.

[rkmsuf]

It's a scheduled event, where everyone sits down at the same time. Once all first round games are done, then the second round starts. So if you bust your opponent on the first hand, you'll have to wait for all of the other matches to finish before you play again.

so one shot deal in one night then. I've never ventured into one of these on the site.

[Subby]

they have 4 person hu tourneys on stars which are nice practice...

[cartman]

I'm normally a 9 man tourney guy on there.

Who is doing the seeding?

The seeding is random.

[rkmsuf]

I'm normally a 9 man tourney guy on there.

Who is doing the seeding?

[primelord]

I have put some more tournament details in the original post. If anyone has any questions let me know. We may want to start trying to nail down a time for this as well since I think we will have enough people. Like I said in the original thread you should give yourself a couple hours for the tourney to complete if you plan on winning. :) Heads up matches can be funny. SOme last only a few hands others can last 20 minutes. The next round does not start until everyone in the current round is done.

[primelord]

Also due to the time stamp bug it is possible I may miss a post from someone who is interested so if I miss your name on the list just let me know.

[Johnny93g]

id be interested, ill probably get crushed, but it would be fun none the less

[Huckleberry]

I'm down for it depending on timing.

[Lathum]

I'de be interested

[primelord]

Ok I now have access to create private tournaments. Unfortunately it won't let me create a tournament for less than a $10 buy in. So the tournament will be a $10+1. Let me know if that is a problem for anyone.

[TLK]

I'm willing to donate. Heads Up is the weakest part of my game, but this might be fun.

[Subby]

Looking forward to seeing the final lineup so we can lay betting lines. :)

[cartman]

Count me in.

[primelord]

Things are shaping up nicely. We have 15 people who have expressed interest. If we could get at least 16 definites that would be great and obviously more would be even better, but 16 would give us 3 full rounds which wouldn't be too bad at all.

Anyone have any thoughts on when we should hold this? I'd imagine a Firday or Saturday night might work best, but really anything works for me. That includes late and early starts as well.

[Malificent]

I'm in.

[Neuqua]

$10 for now is a bit too rich for me but I'll be keeping an eye and plan on watching the games live.

Good luck to all.

[Barkeep49]

As always timing is the issue. FTR I would greatly prefer to play in a HU Limit tourney at some point.

[PackerFanatic]

I should probably know this, but where do you guys normally play?

[PackerFanatic]

Okay, PokerStars, answered my own question :)

[primelord]

As always timing is the issue. FTR I would greatly prefer to play in a HU Limit tourney at some point.

We will make the next one limit.

[kingfc22]

Things are shaping up nicely. We have 15 people who have expressed interest. If we could get at least 16 definites that would be great and obviously more would be even better, but 16 would give us 3 full rounds which wouldn't be too bad at all.

Anyone have any thoughts on when we should hold this? I'd imagine a Firday or Saturday night might work best, but really anything works for me. That includes late and early starts as well.

Friday works great for me

[Barkeep49]

Saturday nights work better... Friday after 10 Central always work with every other Friday (this being a bad one) also working whenever.

[CubsFan915]

As long as the timing works out OK, I'm interested in contributing some dead money to the tourney...

[kcchief19]

This would be totally whack. I'm down with this, dogs. Slap my ass and call me happy.

Sorry, I'm delusional from work. I'm in.

[cartman]

My schedule is pretty much open to any time the group decides upon.

[primelord]

Ok well we have 18 people who have expressed interest. I think we can start nailing down a time. Is this Saturday too soon for anyone?

I am going to throw out This Saturday April 1st at 10 PM ET, 9 PM CT, 7 PM PT and let you guys say yay or nay on it. If it would be better to shift the times we can do that or if it would be better to push it to next Saturday we can do that as well.

[Simms]

No can do this weekend (wife's birthday), but if I'm the only one, please don't delay on account of me.

[kingfc22]

that time would work for me

[Vince]

That time won't work for me, but like Simms, please don't change on account of me -- I can't ever be sure of my schedule, and I usually work nights.

[-apoc-]

did someone say poker im in of course :)

[cartman]

That time will work for me.

[Radii]

Saturday night would be good for me. This one for sure, next saturday is probably ok too.

[Huckleberry]

This Saturday at 9 my time (Central) works for me.

[Maple Leafs]

I think my weekend should be mostly clear.

[Johnny93g]

im a maybe right now, ill know wether i can play on friday

[Barkeep49]

Saturday works well for me.

[kcchief19]

Works for me.

[primelord]

Well it seems like Saturday is going to work for most people so I have created the following tournament:

Date: Saturday April 1st
Time: 10 PM ET, 9 PM CT, 7 PM PT
Tournament Name: FOFC Heads Up Tournament #1
Tournament ID#: 22144698
Password: solecismic

I will see you all there!

[Maple Leafs]

If we bluff, do we have to yell "April Fools"?

[primelord]

If we bluff, do we have to yell "April Fools"?

Only if you get caught. :)

[cartman]

registered

[TLK]

Saturday won't work for me.... I promised the woman that we'd go play BINGO {insert joke here}. I hope someone can do some sort of write-up on this, as it seems like it'll be a good time.

[JeeberD]

Saturday? I'll be working then. Guess I won't be able to donate to the cause...

[Radii]

I'll be there, i'll try to remember to register tonight

[Lathum]

i may make it, gotta check with the woman, allthough if I miss it the reason will not be bingo

[kingfc22]

I should be there.

[primelord]

Bump

[johnnyshaka]

i may make it, gotta check with the woman, allthough if I miss it the reason will not be bingo

No pros allowed!!!!

;)

[mooreadamc]

will know on saturday. Sorry that I can't do better than that :(

[Subby]

Is there a cap on the number of registrants? I need to get some money into Stars...

[primelord]

Is there a cap on the number of registrants? I need to get some money into Stars...

I think the cap is 256. We should be ok. :)

[Barkeep49]

How do byes work?

[cartman]

How do byes work?

From my experience, they only do byes in the first round. So if there are at least 8 entered, 9 to 15 get a bye. Once 16 are entered, 17 to 31 get a bye, etc.

And it is random who gets the bye, so it's not a function of when you sign up.

[Radii]

I'm registered now.

[Lathum]

not gonna make it, sorry you guys won't get my dead money.

[primelord]

Bump to try and catch anyone who might have missed this. We have 10 confirmed. It would be nice to get it to 6 more if possible.

[primelord]

Again with the bump.

[kingfc22]

I should still be able to make it tomorrow. I just haven't registered just in case

[primelord]

Bump it up again. 6 registered so far. At least 2 more would be good. We have 10 total people that said they were going to make it so we should be fine.

[Simms]

I'm in for the moment, as it looks like my plans will be for tomorrow and not tonight. Outside chance of a last minute pullout, but I'll do my best to be there.

[primelord]

I'm in for the moment, as it looks like my plans will be for tomorrow and not tonight. Outside chance of a last minute pullout, but I'll do my best to be there.

Excellent!

[kingfc22]

In.

[primelord]

Ok we have 8 now so we are good to go. I think we may still ahve a couple more coming too.

[Barkeep49]

How long could we expect a 9-16 player tournament to last?

[Vince]

Wish I didn't have to work this evening...this would be fun.

[larrymcg421]

I'm in.

[primelord]

How long could we expect a 9-16 player tournament to last?

It's hard to say 9-15 won't last any longer than an 8 man tourney since there won't be any extra rounds, just byes. If we got to 16 that would add a round and would add probably 30 minutes to the total tourney. 30 min a round is probably a pretty good estimate.

[primelord]

45 minutes.

[kingfc22]

Up to 10. Can we get 16?

[primelord]

Oh where have you gone Maple Leafs? :)

[primelord]

15 minutes

[cartman]

Didn't someone say they were gonna handicap the field? :)

[Barkeep49]

I wasn't the person who said that, but I'll say Radii is the favorite. I'd put primelord behind him. Otherwise hard for me to say as I don't really have a good feel for people's HUs up skills.

[kingfc22]

Who do I have to pay to get a 1st Rd bye ;)

[kingfc22]

No bye :(

[Radii]

I got subby in round 1, I'd consider him and primelord my two favorites

[Barkeep49]

I think Subby v Radii and Simms v Matt_FOF (whose FOFC handle I can never remember) are good first round matches.

[Huckleberry]

woohoo I got a bye.

I'm in the Elite Eight. :D

[JeeberD]

Dammit! I got out of work early but totally forgot about this. I'm guessing it's too late to get in?

[Barkeep49]

Dammit! I got out of work early but totally forgot about this. I'm guessing it's too late to get in?
Yeah sorry no late registrations in this kind of tourney.

[cartman]

Chris/Subby, get to your game!

[JeeberD]

Who is this Subby character that Radii is playing?

[Subby]

Good match radii. Two key hands...you had me gasping for air at the start.

[Huckleberry]

All I know is the part I watched Subby had an ace in his hand seemed like every time.

And, for the record, I will need to actually have an ace in my hand every time to win, maybe even two of them. ;)

[kingfc22]

Lost with A7 vs. A6 which allowed primelord to avoid defeat and then his A7 held up against my KQ.

[JeeberD]

Well, I missed out on this tournament but at least I was able to get in on a free roll tonight... :)

[Barkeep49]

Primelord and I played a pretty good game. Had A2s against his AQ. 2 hearts came and after a Q came on the turn I went all in and he called and I didn't get the heart. Congrats to Primelord and I'll be rooting for him.

[Subby]

I just sucked out brutally on Kcchief. I need to shower now.

[Huckleberry]

I decided to risk the family nest egg. I joined that 10 cent tourney that starts in 5 minutes.

[cartman]

I just knew a 5 was coming on the flop. Nice catch.

I was getting good starting hands, but I was completely missing the flops.

[Subby]

I just sucked out brutally on Primelord. I need to shower now.

[kingfc22]

I just sucked out brutally on Primelord. I need to shower now.

You're going to be really clean after this tournament

[primelord]

Lost with A7 vs. A6 which allowed primelord to avoid defeat and then his A7 held up against my KQ.

kingfc had me without a doubt in our first round match. He had about a 2:1 chip advantage for most of the match. I was able to get that lucky suck out to stay alive and then I was just managed to stay alive long enough until the blinds got so big that I was bale to get back in the game.

Good game king.

[kcchief19]

Prediction: Chris will win the final by hitting a thee outer. :)

Mine wasn't that bad. I was depressed and pushed with bottom pair. I had him outkicked and we would have been just about even if my pair held up. He hit his kicker and that was it.

Now I'm rooting for Chris because if I'm going to go down, I want to go down against the champ.

This definitely had a Cinderella feeling to it. Chris definitely is final worthy, but who would imagine that radii, Simms and Mali would be three of the first four out? Not me.

[primelord]

Primelord and I played a pretty good game. Had A2s against his AQ. 2 hearts came and after a Q came on the turn I went all in and he called and I didn't get the heart. Congrats to Primelord and I'll be rooting for him.

That was a very gutsy bet Barkeep.

I had Ad Qh and the flop came Jh Jc 5h. We are just about even in chips at this point. Barkeep bet 180 raised 300 and Barkeep called.

The turn was the Qs. Barkeep checked, I bet 600 and Barkeep pushed all-in. Very gutsy bet. Especially since he check raised me. I gave brief consideration to folding, but decided if he had the J he would have pressed his luck tried for one more big bet on the river. I called and he had Ah2h and my hand luckily held up.

Good game Barkeep.

[larrymcg421]

Well I played like crap in my 2nd round match and then when I finally started regaining my composure I got sucked out on. But that's what happens when you put yourself in a hole to begin with.

[primelord]

I just sucked out brutally on Primelord. I need to shower now.

While he did suck out on me he also had a 5:1 chip lead when he did it. The key hand:

I am dealt Ah Js. Subby limps. I raise to 7x the BB (560) and Subby calls.

The flop comes Jc, 9d, 9s. Here is mistake #1. I bet 320, and Subby called. With over 1,000 chips in the pot that was a terrible bet. I should have just bet the pot and taken it down. I wanted to keep Subby in. Bad primelord!

The turn is the Qh. I bet 1,040 and Subby calls. This should have set off major warning bells in my head. It's possible Subby has an OESD, but I am thinking with anything but a PAT hand he re-raises me there. Even with just the draw.

The river is the Qs. I make my second mistake and bet 2,080. I don;t think the mistake was betting as much as it wasn't pushing. It would be reasonable for Subby to think I would play AQ the way I played this hand. A9 and k9 are also hands I play this way and of course JJ. My only hope of winning the hand was pushing there. It's not likely Subby has a Q so if he was drawing and missed he isn't going to call a bet from me and the only way I get him to lay down a better hand there is by pushing. If I wasn't willing to push I should have just checked and gone from there.

The board was scary enough to keep Subby from re-raising me, but the damage had been done. He calls and flips over Ks, Td. My hand is no goot!

Nice game Subby.

[Huckleberry]

Good game all. A winner is Chris/Subby.

[primelord]

And Subby wins! Congrats Subby! Well done everyone!

[primelord]

Final Results:

1. Subby
2. Huckleberry
3. larrymcg421
4. primelord
5. cartman
6. kcchief
7. Barkeep49
8. Malificent
9. kingfc22
10. Simms34
11. radii

[Subby]

That was fun....thanks to Primelord for putting it together!

Hope we can do this again...

[Barkeep49]

That was a very gutsy bet Barkeep.

I had Ad Qh and the flop came Jh Jc 5h. We are just about even in chips at this point. Barkeep bet 180 raised 300 and Barkeep called.

The turn was the Qs. Barkeep checked, I bet 600 and Barkeep pushed all-in. Very gutsy bet. Especially since he check raised me. I gave brief consideration to folding, but decided if he had the J he would have pressed his luck tried for one more big bet on the river. I called and he had Ah2h and my hand luckily held up.

Good game Barkeep.
I had you on something had you on a pocket pair from 7-10 and hoped that the Queen was another scare card for you. If I knew you had the queen I'd have played that differently, that's for sure.

[primelord]

That was fun....thanks to Primelord for putting it together!

Hope we can do this again...

Assuming we continue to have an interest in this I figure we can hold one of these bi-weekly. For the next one if there is sufficent interest I would be fine with playing limit.

[Malificent]

Well I played like crap in my 2nd round match and then when I finally started regaining my composure I got sucked out on. But that's what happens when you put yourself in a hole to begin with.

Heh, sounds like my match against you. I was zigging when I shouldve been zagging and just could never find my game at all. Not sure I made a correct decision the entire match.

[Barkeep49]

Could we try and get these on alternate weeks from the regular tourney? I like both of these and think they should complement rather then compete being on the same weekend.

DOLA -- I also would very much like to see a holdem limit tourney thrown here and there.

[primelord]

Could we try and get these on alternate weeks from the regular tourney? I like both of these and think they should complement rather then compete being on the same weekend.

I have no problem with that. If we have enough people I'll set up the next one for next week and we will go bi-weekly from there. If not we can start again in 3 weeks. Since we won;t be on the same week as the Clossal Squid Tourney we can always shift it to Sunday in that time slot to make scheduling consistent for everyone.

[Huckleberry]

I have no problem with that. If we have enough people I'll set up the next one for next week and we will go bi-weekly from there. If not we can start again in 3 weeks. Since we won;t be on the same week as the Clossal Squid Tourney we can always shift it to Sunday in that time slot to make scheduling consistent for everyone.

Ack. I prefer the 10 ET start time on Saturdays. The 9 ET on Sundays is my kid's school night bedtime.

But obviously whatever the most people prefer.

[Barkeep49]

I think it's good to be at different times as it'll hopefully allow people like Huck to play in one where they can't play in the other.

[Subby]

Friday or Saturday night is perfect for the kid-havin', no-life dads that participate. :)

[Maple Leafs]

Oh where have you gone Maple Leafs? :)
Yeah, sorry about that... I wasn't sure if I'd be there for 10 so I pulled out, figuring I could sign up again if I made it. Missed it by about ten minutes, but did get to watch several matches. I even scouted for future tournaments, making notes like "Do not under any circumstances play Subby".

[Vince]

Friday or Saturday night is perfect for the kid-havin', no-life dads that participate. :)

Not so good for the non-kid-havin', bartending bachelor :) I've still only made it to one of these, and I managed to somehow win it. I'd love to get in on more, but it looks like it'll be a while before the timing is right for me.

[Barkeep49]

Any chance we could do another one of these next week?

[primelord]

Any chance we could do another one of these next week?

I will be out Saturday night, but we could do this Friday or Sunday if anyone was interested.

[kingfc22]

Hmm, I would be available Sunday.

I need my rematch with primelord.