POL - NCLB except you and you and you and yute and you...

[Flasch186]

so this IMO is not a good thing...it may help innercity schools but it undermines the program, no?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/04/18/no.child.loophole.ap/index.html

[Young Drachma]

NCLB is well-intentioned, but horribly flawed. And I'm not even talking about the so-called unfunded mandates. I'm just talking about this idea of trying to legislate even performance. If white and asian students test scores fell to the level of black and hispanic students, NCLB would have done it job, on paper.

It's about leveling out the scores and that's it. So, schools are going to do what they always do. Try to fudge the numbers more to make themselves look like they're doing good.

I've always had a problem with them testing scores and doing breakdowns based on race. It's just troubling, because you start to try to adapt to the problem, rather than just trying to teach all kids effectively by engaging them. There isn't some crack code to teaching colored kids, but we're crafting policy as if that's precisely the idea and it's not.

So long as we keep missing the point, it's never going to help anything and as usual, the kids will lose out.

[panerd]

NCLB is well-intentioned, but horribly flawed. And I'm not even talking about the so-called unfunded mandates. I'm just talking about this idea of trying to legislate even performance. If white and asian students test scores fell to the level of black and hispanic students, NCLB would have done it job, on paper.

It's about leveling out the scores and that's it. So, schools are going to do what they always do. Try to fudge the numbers more to make themselves look like they're doing good.

I've always had a problem with them testing scores and doing breakdowns based on race. It's just troubling, because you start to try to adapt to the problem, rather than just trying to teach all kids effectively by engaging them. There isn't some crack code to teaching colored kids, but we're crafting policy as if that's precisely the idea and it's not.

So long as we keep missing the point, it's never going to help anything and as usual, the kids will lose out.

Here, here. The problem is that 95% of the country knows this, but all of the politicians on both sides are scared to possibly be labeled as politically incorrect. It is like the Harvard guy that just wanted to start a diologue that men might be more inclined to mathematics than women. You don't say?