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SunDevil
05-08-2006, 03:38 PM
http://justoffcamera.blogspot.com/2006/05/is-there-really-debate-over-why-barry.html

Is There Really A Debate Over Why Barry Bonds Is Hated?
I was thinking tonight (in between sporadic bursts of studying) about why, exactly, Barry Bonds is so hated by everyone outside of San Francisco.

The obvious answer is that Bonds has been found guilty in the court of public opinion of using steroids, and while that may be true, that's clearly not enough to draw the kind of ire that Bonds draws. Jason Giambi has been painted as a juicer, and he apparently admitted to using steroids in his BALCO grand jury testimony, but fans don't venomously hate Giambi. Rafael Palmeiro looked like an idiot after he got caught using, and he was booed, but he wasn't hated like Bonds. Mark McGwire was a beloved figure during his 70-HR season, despite the fact that he was using androstenedione (legal at the time). So I don't think steroids are the reason people hate Bonds, although that certainly provides additional fuel for the fire.

I also don't think, as Bonds and some others have suggested, that racism is a major factor. I think it would be naive to think that there is no racism at all in baseball, but at the same time, if people were so anti-Bonds because he's black, then why don't other black players receive similar treatment? Derrek Lee, Dontrelle Willis, Ken Griffey Jr., Juan Pierre, Jimmy Rollins, Chone Figgins, Carl Crawford, Randy Winn, Coco Crisp, Vernon Wells, Prince Fielder - the list goes on and on - and if you ever hear anything negative about these guys (and for some, you won't), nobody ever links it to racism. Griffey gets hurt every year, but nobody chalks that up to his being black. Rollins doesn't walk enough for a leadoff hitter, but whenever someone pulls out that criticism of him, it isn't because he's black. So why, when someone gets negative on Bonds, does it suddenly become about race? I'm very skeptical of this.

This column from USA Today, which ran a month ago, posited that steroids and racism were the reason for Bonds's bad image. It's wrong. The reason people hate Bonds, quite simply, is because he is, to put it kindly, a thoroughly contemptible, detestable person. Allow me to illustrate:

Bonds said no when he was asked at his news conference if he would sign the ball if a fan [who caught his 713th home run] wanted an autograph. Moments later, when an official asked if there were any more questions, Oliveras [the fan who caught the home run] piped up:

"Will you sign my ball?"

Bonds smirked and said nothing.

After his news conference, Bonds shook Oliveras' hand and took a picture with him.

"I'm happy because I got a picture and he shook my hand," he said.

There was one signature needed though. Oliveras had to sign a waiver for Bonds' reality show.

Isn't this outrageous? The guy who catches the ball can't get an autograph from Bonds, but has to take the time to sign a waiver so he can appear on Bonds's reality show? That's just nauseating. To really put it in perspective, consider the fact that Carlos Olivares, the fan who caught the ball, is enlisted in the Air Force.

Now compare that to this story from 1998. The fan who caught McGwire's 60th home run of the season returned the ball to McGwire, and in return, asked for season tickets for the following season and the chance to take batting practice with the Cardinals. Seems a little excessive, especially after hearing that Bonds won't even sign one autograph. Guess what? McGwire and the Cardinals gave him exactly what he wanted. McGwire's quote: "If that's all he wants, we can work it out." Meanwhile, Bonds can't even be troubled to sign a ball.

Bonds and McGwire may be of different races, but that's not the reason McGwire was a hero and Bonds is a villain. They put themselves in those roles simply by playing the part.

flere-imsaho
05-08-2006, 03:49 PM
If he really wants to nail the "it's not racism" point home he can compare how Bonds dealt with Olivares to how Ken Griffey Jr. handled the fan who caught his 500th HR ball.

Young Drachma
05-08-2006, 03:49 PM
Him being an asshole has nothing to do with race. Barry is spoiled. He's like one of those child stars from a family who has been a brat all his life and doesn't even realize he's a brat.

He's just under the microscope in a different way because he's an athlete, rather than as a movie star where he gets to reinvent himself.

The different however, between him and the other players is that...because he's such a jerk, people are really reluctant to have him out there winning and succeeding. Add now that a lot of folks (I don't) think he's a cheat and well...there you go.

I don't think he helps his own cause at all and that's the most frustrating thing about him and other athletes like him. It's almost as if these people surround themselves with a bunch of yes men, get spouses who are yes honeys and will allow them to run their lives. So, they're protected from the reality that everyone else seems to see.

Just because you're the best doesn't mean you have to be an asshole. And that's what Barry seems to be. I feel for him in a sense because of the way the media is treating him, but..I think he could make it a little easier for himself in some ways and doesn't.

With all that said though, he's still one of the best the game has ever seen and doesn't get the respect he deserves. I think that's the part that bothers him the most and that probably comes from wanting approval from his dad and godfather and now that his dad is dead, not being able to get that.

Karlifornia
05-08-2006, 03:54 PM
You make a reasonable argument, although I'm sure there are many people that Bonds has touched that would disagree with your assesment of him as a villain. If not signing a baseball makes someone an ass, then I guess he is an ass. Just go type in the name Christopher Laub on google, weigh the two instances out, and then decide.

ISiddiqui
05-08-2006, 05:23 PM
Isn't this outrageous? The guy who catches the ball can't get an autograph from Bonds, but has to take the time to sign a waiver so he can appear on Bonds's reality show? That's just nauseating. To really put it in perspective, consider the fact that Carlos Olivares, the fan who caught the ball, is enlisted in the Air Force.

Now compare that to this story from 1998. The fan who caught McGwire's 60th home run of the season returned the ball to McGwire, and in return, asked for season tickets for the following season and the chance to take batting practice with the Cardinals. Seems a little excessive, especially after hearing that Bonds won't even sign one autograph. Guess what? McGwire and the Cardinals gave him exactly what he wanted. McGwire's quote: "If that's all he wants, we can work it out." Meanwhile, Bonds can't even be troubled to sign a ball.

Huh? Bonds didn't ask for the ball back. Olivares will probably make a ton on it. I'm sure if the guy who caught McGwire's ball didn't give it back to him that he wouldn't have gotten season tickets & batting practice.

Just because someone catches a ball doesn't mean they are entitled to anything. They only get anything at all in exchange for the BALL!