NBA 2k7 (360 version) Preview

[Eaglesfan27]

TroyF, myself, and other 360 owners on here have raved about 2k6 and along with college hoops it is my favorite 360 game, so I've kept a periodic eye out for the next version. Today on Operation Sports, I just read the preview and there were some jaw dropping things I read:

http://previews.operationsports.com/previews.aspx?game=nba2k7360


- Over 250 signature jump shots.

- Progressive Fatigue - Play a guy for 45 minutes and expect him to start the next game tired particularly if it is a back to back. This is a feature I've wanted for a long time in a basketball game.

- Different passing styles and a method to choose between overhead, chest, or bounce passes.

- Revamped post game with different style of moves. Every player will be able to use each style, but based on ratings they will have different efficiencies with those styles. Styles include: Power ("Shaq type moves"), finesse moves ("Duncan type moves"), and Quickness based moves (
("Carmelo" type moves.) They give an example of Dirk excelling at the Finesse and Quickness moves.

- AI that controls each player on the bench, each coach, and the mascot. They will react to each event as it happens.

- Improved Substitution AI.

- Up to 8 players in multi player franchise mode! :)

- More realistic post defense with dunks being much more difficult to execute. The ease that I could get dunks off was one of my big criticisms of last year, so this could be very nice.

- The previewer says the demo was short, but the fouls seem much more realistic at default levels without adjusting sliders.

- Only downside is that they might not able to include authentic representations of all 30 arenas in this year's game, but they are working towards that goal.


On an unrelated note, I'm looking forward to playing my first game of NBA 2k6 and College Hoops on my new HDTV tonight :)

[BrianD]

Do you really need to choose between different passing styles? At this level of basketball, I would expect the players to figure out the best style for the situation.

[Eaglesfan27]

Do you really need to choose between different passing styles? At this level of basketball, I would expect the players to figure out the best style for the situation.

You don't have to, but it sounds like there will be combinations of buttons to press if you want to do so. I think it is a nice addition as 2k6 overutilized the overhead pass when it wasn't always the best choice.

[BrianD]

You don't have to, but it sounds like there will be combinations of buttons to press if you want to do so. I think it is a nice addition as 2k6 overutilized the overhead pass when it wasn't always the best choice.

That is true. Hopefully the AI won't try to jump in front of so many passes and getting itself out of position in the next version.

[TroyF]

Easily the best Xbox360 sports game thus far. By far and away the single best basketball game I've ever played on any system.

I hope they utilize the college hoops style of substituting this year as well. It's nice to not have to go to a seperate menu to sub guys in and out.

For the first time ever, I'm looking forward to this game (and was before you even posted that) than to any of the football releases scheduled for the fall.

[sooner333]

I wonder if they'll have the Oklahoma City and New Orleans courts.

[jbmagic]

Eaglefan27

What hdtv you end up getting?

[Eaglesfan27]

As the risk of being accused of possessing mad hype skills, I thought I'd mention that this is my most anticipated 360 game for the remainder of the year. OS has gotten their hands on a version for several days now. So far, they haven't found any bugs.

Several things I like:

- Progressive fatigue sounds like it will be nicely implemented. Not overdone, but just a moderate effect if a guy plays too many minutes too many nights in a row.

- There are team specific sliders for every team in the league if you don't like the default way they run their teams that can be adjusted by the human coach. These sliders include: Game tempo, Crash boards, Fast break, Def. pressure, Bench usage, Help defense strength, Help recovery speed, Pound ball inside, Settle for jumpers, Rely on 3pt shot, Attack the basket, Finish strong at basket, Look for post players, Prefer 1 on 1 play, Tend to overdribble, Use finesse inside, Follow missed shots, Pass w/ Flair
Prone to foul, Clog passing lanes, Reach on def and Contest shots.

However, it seems like early previewers are saying they won't need to be adjusted much at all, as at default, teams are playing like their real counterparts with teams like the Heat pounding it inside and teams that don't have a good big man relying more on their perimeter game.


- 3 way trades are implemented and you can trade future draft picks as well as current picks.

- Signature styles seem like they are well implemented. Players move more than ever like their real life counterparts (they did this for the star player on each team as well as 3-5 players for the bigger teams that have multiple star players.)

- Like last year, the sim stats look very good at the end of the year.

Anyway, I'll judge for myself in about 3 weeks when this is due to be out, but so far the previews have me very excited about this game.

[wade moore]

I'll keep an eye on this, but for basketball the college game really interests me WAY more. So, I'm curious to see if any of this is put into NCAA 2k7.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'll be picking this game up at the earliest opportunity, which is probably mid-October for me. I can't wait. :)

[TroyF]

thanks EF27. If this game bombs, it's all on you. Freakin hype machine.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I just popped NFL Head Coach into my PC last night, and after 2 minutes, I was cursing EaglesFan27 again. He's lucky that I moved out of Louisiana, because I'd have to hurt him if he were nearby. :mad:

[MizzouRah]

looks like live is better game

[Pumpy Tudors]

looks like live is better game
agree

ea sports website say so

[rjolley]

The team sliders sound great, but what happens when the rosters change? Will the sliders adjust to take advantage of the talent on the court? Or will the teams try to bring in players that fit their system? And are the sliders attached to the team or the coach?

It could be a great system. Hope it's done well...

[Eaglesfan27]

The team sliders sound great, but what happens when the rosters change? Will the sliders adjust to take advantage of the talent on the court? Or will the teams try to bring in players that fit their system? And are the sliders attached to the team or the coach?

It could be a great system. Hope it's done well...


Those are all great questions. I look forward to finding out the answers down the road.

One big deal that I forgot to mention is the game will have fully functional online leagues with trades/injuries, full seasons, draft, etc. The league can also start with a fantasy draft if they choose. I probably won't use this much unless my best friend in NJ wants to do a small online league because it is hard to sync up playing times, but the game has a lot of options there too, including your VIP profile (which measures many of your tendencies and supposedly plays like you) can play your game or the game can be simulated if it is holding up the league.

[kingnebwsu]

NBA 2k7 is one of my most anticipated 360 games this year also (along with Phantasy Star Universe, Rainbow Six Vegas, and Gears of War). Those are the only 4 games I plan on picking up in '06. Hopefully several FOFC'ers pick it up so we can all play online :)

[GoldenEagle]

When is NBA 2k7 coming out? I picked up College Hoops 2k6 for $20 and had a blast with it the only time I played it. Would it be worth getting NBA 2k6 for $30 with the next version coming out soon?

[wade moore]

Those are all great questions. I look forward to finding out the answers down the road.

One big deal that I forgot to mention is the game will have fully functional online leagues with trades/injuries, full seasons, draft, etc. The league can also start with a fantasy draft if they choose. I probably won't use this much unless my best friend in NJ wants to do a small online league because it is hard to sync up playing times, but the game has a lot of options there too, including your VIP profile (which measures many of your tendencies and supposedly plays like you) can play your game or the game can be simulated if it is holding up the league.

Using the VIP profiles for a league is a FANTASTIC idea....

Ok, I'm getting more and more interested in this.

[Eaglesfan27]

When is NBA 2k7 coming out? I picked up College Hoops 2k6 for $20 and had a blast with it the only time I played it. Would it be worth getting NBA 2k6 for $30 with the next version coming out soon?

I just pre-ordered it today. It will be in most stores on the 25th of September.

Edit: Had a brain infarct. It will actually be the 26th for most stores.

[Bee]

Is there going to be a college hoops 2k7 this year?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Is there going to be a college hoops 2k7 this year?
Oh, yes. http://www.2ksports.com/games/choops2k7/

I'm getting amped about this one, too. :D

[GoldenEagle]

The fatigue carrying from game to game is the feature that interests me the most. I will pre-order this one as well.

[Eaglesfan27]

Is there going to be a college hoops 2k7 this year?

That is probably my 2nd most anticipated game for the 360 this year (assuming it doesn't get delayed into next year, like it did last year.)

[Pumpy Tudors]

That is probably my 2nd most anticipated game for the 360 this year (assuming it doesn't get delayed into next year, like it did last year.)
oh great more hype

thanks

[Eaglesfan27]

oh great more hype

thanks



I must use my hype and hypnotic powers for evil.

[rjolley]

Did last years version of CH and NBA on the 360 allow players to be drafted from CH? I know the XBox version does (after a patch).

[Eaglesfan27]

Did last years version of CH and NBA on the 360 allow players to be drafted from CH? I know the XBox version does (after a patch).

Yes, but it was poorly implemented in some regards (sometimes players would change skin colors and other wonky things.)

However, if these 2 games are as good as I'm hoping they will be, I'll probably do a good length career with both games and do all NCAA draft classes.

[rjolley]

Wonky...gotta love that word. :)

I'll probably get a 360 once those 2 come out. I'm still holding out hope that a price drop will happen...

[Eaglesfan27]

NBA 2k7 demo is supposed to be available starting at 2:00 AM PST tonight. I'll be downloading it Friday probably (I won't have much time to play tomorrow night and I figure the servers may get hammered for the first 24 hours anyway.)

[MizzouRah]

Wow, games are coming at a furrious pace right now!

[jbmagic]

NBA 2k7 demo is supposed to be available starting at 2:00 AM PST tonight. I'll be downloading it Friday probably (I won't have much time to play tomorrow night and I figure the servers may get hammered for the first 24 hours anyway.)

Awesome news.

Going to pick up the xbox 360 this weekend.

[Eaglesfan27]

Oh yeah, the demo's details:

One 2 minute quarter game featuring Dallas vs Miami. Looking forward to seeing some of the signature styles of players on those teams.

[TroyF]

Oh yeah, the demo's details:

One 2 minute quarter game featuring Dallas vs Miami. Looking forward to seeing some of the signature styles of players on those teams.

Great, so I'll be playing a damned demo for three weeks now. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Great, so I'll be playing a damned demo for three weeks now. :)

A little less than 2 weeks until the full version is out :)

[dervack]

Awesome news.

Going to pick up the xbox 360 this weekend.
Why buy 365, it better to wait for ferst impressin.

[Eaglesfan27]

Impressions of the demo on OS are VERY positive with the biggest gripe being that some of the models don't look very much like the real player. So far, everyone is raving about the gameplay including stuff such as improved ball physics, rim physics, lead passing into the paint isn't an automatic basket anymore and is likely to lead to a turnover. You can now press L on the R analog stick to have a defender get more in a guy's face and really harass him, but it can lead to more fouls.

Lots of really good impressions on the gameplay. People say that dunks are MUCH harder to do. Dunks being too easy was my biggest gripe about 06. I can't wait to try the demo on Friday.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

It's actually a 4 minute quarter demo, not a 2 minute demo and there is a restart option after the game is over.

Edited to add this comment from one of the main editors over there:

This demo is going to sell a ton of games. That was the most realistic 5 min of basketball I've ever played.

[Kodos]

Downloaded the demo last night. Two things I noticed: It's pretty fun. And also - I suck.

[Eaglesfan27]

Downloaded the demo last night. Two things I noticed: It's pretty fun. And also - I suck.


Reportedly, that is only pro difficulty level. So, if you start beating it consistently, there is quite a bit more challenge awaiting you with 2 higher difficulty levels. I'm looking forward to playing it after work tonight.

[kingnebwsu]

Yeah, I think it's pro difficulty cuz you're given 15 seconds to shoot FT's. They subtract 5 seconds each lvl you go up.

The demo seems really cool and the little stat bar at the bottom that always gives you the stats is an ingenious idea that nobody has used yet.

I am out of practice but I will be playing the demo some more before the release. This is a game I will be getting the day it comes out.

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn, this demo is good. I've only played 10 games already, and I just want to keep playing more and more. It's only a demo, and it's only 4 minutes long, but it feels more like the real sport that it attempts to model more than any team game video game console that I can remember.

Interestingly, this demo makes me want to return Madden and use the money towards NHL 2k7 which I've read very good reviews about at multiple sites (although I don't see many comments about it here.) NHL 2k7 if it is as good as I'm reading and this game once it comes out could fill all of my sports console gaming needs (along with NCAA FB which I'm enjoying with the current sliders I'm using.)


Back to comments about NBA 2k7, going inside is SO much more difficult than in previous versions. A good pick can help you accomplish it at times, as well as some of the better dribblers, but it feels much more realistic, and the post defense feels punishing. Also, fouls actually feel right on default settings.

[MizzouRah]

I'm d/l this demo now.. but read my comments in the NHL thread. :)

[MizzouRah]

WOW, I'm not much on the NBA.. but damn did 2k sports do the same immersive job the did with NFL 2k5.

[dervack]

WOW, I'm not much on the NBA.. but damn did 2k sports do the same immersive job the did with NFL 2k5.
Last year's game was very fun. But the demo for this year... September is going to be a bad month for me....

[jbmagic]

I'm d/l this demo now.. but read my comments in the NHL thread. :)

He leaning toward NHL 2k7 over EA NHL 07.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just finished my 20th "game" of the demo, I think. Amazing the variety of games that have been played in the 4 minute quarters. I've had 3-2 games and 12-10 games. Assuming the actual game plays the same, I see no reason that I won't be able to run 12 minute quarters. I can't wait.


To expound on my comments earlier, I realize that NHL 07 and 2k7 are pretty much neck and neck overall. As irrational as it might be, the quality of this demo makes me want to support VC and their games including 2k7. I know some people are saying NHL 07 has better gameplay, but Sully and quite a few people on OS who have played both are saying that NHL 2k7 has a more sim like gameplay and that NHL 07's AI isn't as good. Obviously, those are just some people's opinions.


Anyway, if they are similar overall, my recent sour experience with Madden is pushing me towards NHL 2k7, but I'm still considering just going with no more sports games as NBA 2k7 might eat up almost all of my console sports gaming time once it is released in 10 or so days.


Edited to add: I love the variety of FT shooting styles and how similar they look to the real player. I'm finding FT shooting with Shaq to be nearly impossible.

[MizzouRah]

I'm unbiased when it comes to games, obviously if I liked the NBA, this game would be the end all for me.. and I like the demo quite a bit.

I just don't see it with the NHL 2k7 game though.. the AI in NHL 07 is quite good, imo and in 2k7 it's pass and speed burst to the other end for a shot.. to each his own though as I know many people like NHL 2k7.

NHL 07 is like MVP 05 was for me when it came out. Quite innovative and hard to go back to any other game of the same sport.

[kingnebwsu]

I don't really like the NBA, but NBA 2k6 was in my top-5 for number of games played for 2005-2006.

[RPI-Fan]

Just finished my 20th "game" of the demo, I think. Amazing the variety of games that have been played in the 4 minute quarters. I've had 3-2 games and 12-10 games. Assuming the actual game plays the same, I see no reason that I won't be able to run 12 minute quarters. I can't wait....

3-2 and 12-10? Is the game 4 minutes TOTAL or 4 minute quarters??

[Eaglesfan27]

3-2 and 12-10? Is the game 4 minutes TOTAL or 4 minute quarters??


It's a demo of one 4 minute game.

[MizzouRah]

I have a confession: I've been playing this demo every chance I get and I'd have to say, if you're an NBA fan, this game would be a system seller for sure. WOW, best looking sports game EVER on a console. It's amazing how much they have crammed into this little demo. Heck, I'm thinking about getting it as there is just so much to like.. and well, most of you know I don't follow the NBA much at all.

EF and Troy, you'll be VERY busy soon. :)

[TroyF]

Yes, yes I will be.

Terrific game. Counting the hours til release. . .

[jbmagic]

Yes, yes I will be.

Terrific game. Counting the hours til release. . .

I looking forward to this game on my new xbox 360.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yes, yes I will be.

Terrific game. Counting the hours til release. . .


Ditto.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I can't afford it until about 3 days after it comes out, but it's the first thing I'm buying from my new (permanent) job's paycheck. :D

[dervack]

I looking forward to this game on my new xbox 360.
U should wait for furst impressions.


(ok, last time I'll do that.)

[GoldenEagle]

IGN has a review up.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/733/733877p1.html

Reading now...

[Eaglesfan27]

IGN has a review up.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/733/733877p1.html

Reading now...

Based solely off the demo, I think the main reviewer significantly underestimated the game in his final score, while Jrob was more supportive of the game in his comments from that site. Will be interesting to see what they give Live. Also, interested in Gamespot's scores. It won't effect my choice at all, but it may effect some purchases and I'd hate to see sales drop and the product suffer because of relatively low scores on a review. I think the developers went for realism more than most games (all games) on consoles go for, and I just don't want to see that trend change.

[CleBrownsfan]

IGN has a review up.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/733/733877p1.html

Reading now...

Looking forward to this one. I just hope I don't get disappointed like I did with Madden 07 :rolleyes:

[wade moore]

I can't afford it until about 3 days after it comes out, but it's the first thing I'm buying from my new (permanent) job's paycheck. :D

Wait, just caught this...

No more coal mining?!

[dervack]

Just preordered it from EB, looking forward to playing some games with you guys if you don't mind.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just preordered it from EB, looking forward to playing some games with you guys if you don't mind.


I'll be glad to play any of you guys online. However, I'm not very good with the isomoves yet.

[Kodos]

I suck ass. Prepare to bury me by 50!

[Pumpy Tudors]

Wait, just caught this...

No more coal mining?!
Yeah, still coal mining. I was a temp for 22 weeks, and I finally got hired by the coal miners on Labor Day. Due to the payroll procedures here, I won't receive my first paycheck until the 29th. The pay period went from the 4th to the 17th, and then there's a 12-day delay until we receive the money for that period. My last check from the temp agency arrived on the 6th, so I've been hurting for money for a little while now. Once I get that first check, though, I'll be spending a bit. :D

[Eaglesfan27]

This is going to be a long weekend:

A few impressions from Pared on OS (who I usually agree with about games.) Oh yeah, he went to a release party with Shaq and a whole bunch of players with some cool pics on OS. He got the game at the release party:


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Obviously, this is for the full game, not the demo.

I have been up playing this game for so many hours now... and let me just say, any low score or poor review must come from someone who does not watch the NBA.

This has to be the most impressive NBA game I have played in my life. It's that good.


From the minute you turn on the game to the minute you hit court, this game just screams HI QUALITY. The menu starts with a city fly-by similar to TNT's NBA broadcast. Music is very catch... some great old-school hip-hop beats thrown in the mix...

I have had a chance to play (more like, get my butt kicked-All-Star difficulty) with the Lakers, Cavs, Knicks, Nets, and Nuggets. Probably a few others, but I quit a few games halfway through to see some more sig styles. http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/images/smilies/graemlins/woot.gif

And speaking of sig. styles... incredible. The team somehow paid attention to players that come off the bench... this isn't some 10 star player gimmick. You actually FEEL like you have the entire NBA at your disposal.

The team plays is even better than last year. The CPU will punish you if you play off players defensively... plus, they run a more fluid offense. I felt last year's game would punish you by driving it to the hole to easily if you attempted steals... which doesn't happen ALL the time in the NBA. This year, they've found such a great balance that you just feel like you're playing the Suns as the fastbreak on you... or the Heat as they utilize Dwayne Wade and Shaq. http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/images/smilies/graemlins/woot.gif Playing against the Spurs, Tony Parker and Duncan were VERY difficult to stop... and I loved every minute of it. Star players certainly shine in this game... while role players still hold their own.

I haven't done anything but play a few Exhibition games... but I'm REALLY loving what I'm seeing. I'll post more as I get more time with the game. http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/images/smilies/graemlins/waytogo.gif

[kingnebwsu]

Hopefully the game is well done. The demo is pretty good, but I was having trouble running the fast breaks effectively (like my players had to stop to catch the pass). Looking forward to getting the game next week!

[Eaglesfan27]

Hopefully the game is well done. The demo is pretty good, but I was having trouble running the fast breaks effectively (like my players had to stop to catch the pass). Looking forward to getting the game next week!


Using the lead pass button is supposed to prevent the guys from having to stop to catch the pass, every time. However, there still will be errant passes on occasion that will mess up the fast break unless you have a very highly rated passer.


Also, reading the impressions thread, people are playing 12 minute quarters and getting scores like 98-83 with realistic shot attempts (around 80 per side) and generally realistic stats if they don't try to fast break too much. Early impressions are that out of the box, it is playing realistic fun basketball and not many slider adjustments will be needed (not even to fouls.)

[TroyF]

Yeah, there are two pass buttons, the lead pass button will make it to where your player doesn't have to stop, but also be a little riskier. The standard pass button is safer, but no so good for fast breaks.

You can use the lead pass button even in half court sets. If you see a guy cuting through the lane, you'll want to use that button so he keeps his lead on the opposition.

[kingnebwsu]

Bump because the game is out on Tuesday. Apparently Best Buy is giving out a $10 giftcard with the purchase of the game on the 360! I'll definitely be picking this one up since free giftcards are sweet money. Hooray!!! :)

[Kodos]

Preordered from Amazon yesterday, but probably won't get it until early October. :(

[Eaglesfan27]

Another interesting feature that I've been reading about on OS, is that there is going to be something called Reel Center which will enable the sharing of highlight reels. The exact mechanism hasn't been revealed yet, but if they are viewable on the web, it has very interesting dynasty potential.


Edited to add: This is reportedly going to cost money to use, presumably to pay for the extra internet storage space.

[CleBrownsfan]

Will there be enough interest of starting a XBox 360 league for NBA 2k7??

[Eaglesfan27]

Will there be enough interest of starting a XBox 360 league for NBA 2k7??

I'd be interested. As always, the challenge is coordinating everyone's schedules, but the new system seems to have some good ways to overcome that challenge.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I definitely want to be in a league. I call Grizzlies! :D

[TroyF]

Nuggets

[Pumpy Tudors]

Nuggets
Troy, I like you, but if we get this league going, I'm going to try to kill Carmelo. It'll be like the old days of hitting Gretzky after the whistle on the Sega Genesis. Gotta get rid of the superstar. :)

[CleBrownsfan]

Is there a way to do a fantasy draft for an online league? (BTW - I want the Cavs) ;)

[CleBrownsfan]

http://reviews.operationsports.com/reviews.aspx?game=nba2k7360

10 out of 10!!

[TroyF]

Troy, I like you, but if we get this league going, I'm going to try to kill Carmelo. It'll be like the old days of hitting Gretzky after the whistle on the Sega Genesis. Gotta get rid of the superstar. :)


You try to kill Carmelo. And while you are trying to kill him, I'll make sure he's lighting your team up for 35 a night and that every player on him is in instant foul trouble. :)

I remember the days of the Gretzky hits. One time a friend and I playing coop hit him from the front, back and front again. As he snapped back his head hit the ice and the blood poured. We must have watched the replay 100 times.

To bad the only replay you'll get to see with Melo is him torching your team for buckets. :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

Ouch. I just got served. :D

[rjolley]

I'll pick this one up for the Xbox, but this and College Hoops 2K7 will sell me on getting a 360. Love this series and I'm looking forward to continuing to play on the next gen. And I'll be up for a league once I get moved intot he new house and buy a 360. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

I call Sixers. I think you can do a fantasy draft, but am not sure about that. Could be mixing it up with another game.

[BigMak]

OS has their review up. They gave it a 10/10.

[dervack]

I'd be in for a league. But I'm not sure 82 games would be doable. I'll take the Bulls, escpecially if we do a fantasy draft.

[Eaglesfan27]

I just got the call that it will be ready for pickup tomorrow!



I then found out from my wife that we will be dining with my Father-In-Law after work :( (He is coming into town tomorrow in anticipation of her birthday party this weekend.) So, I might only get 1 game in tomorrow evening.

[jbmagic]

I just got the call that it will be ready for pickup tomorrow!



I then found out from my wife that we will be dining with my step-father after work :( (He is coming into town tomorrow in anticipation of her birthday party this weekend.) So, I might only get 1 game in tomorrow evening.


I tought you were getting it at Best Buy, so you can get the gift certificate?

[Eaglesfan27]

No, I never said that.

Best Buy is way out of the way for me. Gamestop is close to my work. The 10 dollars isn't worth the time I would waste heading all the way over to Best Buy, and I wouldn't definitely get the game. I'm pre-ordered from Gamestop as I usually do for a game I really want.

[CleBrownsfan]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/nba2k7/review.html

Gamespot.com review (8.2 - bla)

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. I'm surprised the score isn't higher. Then again, they do have NBA Live ads all over the site.

[CleBrownsfan]

Wow. I'm surprised the score isn't higher. Then again, they do have NBA Live ads all over the site.

Isn't that funny how that work...

[Izulde]

Argh. I need to contact Microsoft and see about the procedure for getting my 360 fixed, as it still locks up games even after I put the Intercooler on, have the power pack off the floor, etc...

Then I need to pick up NCAA and NBA 2K7 :D

[kingnebwsu]

*I* will be getting NBA 2k7 from Best Buy tomorrow :)

I'd be up for a 360 league for sure. But uh, can we make it a 14 or 28 game schedule? (something way shorter than 82). I always play the 28 game schedules in the 1-player and it makes it so I can get through more seasons.

8.2 from Gamespot? That's a bummer, I need to see what the downsides are. Look for me online tomorrow night! :)

[jbmagic]

*I* will be getting NBA 2k7 from Best Buy tomorrow :)

I'd be up for a 360 league for sure. But uh, can we make it a 14 or 28 game schedule? (something way shorter than 82). I always play the 28 game schedules in the 1-player and it makes it so I can get through more seasons.

8.2 from Gamespot? That's a bummer, I need to see what the downsides are. Look for me online tomorrow night! :)

According to gamespot the downside is.

The Bad: Free throws are extremely difficult to make; controls are often unwieldy; not significantly improved over last year; questionable artificial intelligence.

[jbmagic]

dola

According to Gamespot also:

For a game that bills itself as "the next-generation champion," 2K7 has some significant problems. The artificial intelligence is spotty, with point guards dribbling away 10 to 15 seconds at a time if left unguarded at the top of the key, and players constantly rotating into mismatches. It's not uncommon to see a center guarding a point guard or vice versa. Not all of the AI is bad. When the computer is on defense, defenders will fight through picks, rotate quickly, and double-team the hot player. Players also have a difficult time picking up loose balls--they'll just stand there and watch the ball roll around. When someone dives to the floor to get a ball (99 percent of the time it's the computer), there doesn't appear to be any sort of animation for a defensive player to try and tie them up. Everyone will just mill about as the player on the floor sits there looking for someone to pass to.

[Eaglesfan27]

Per one of the mods on OS who contacted the Gamespot reviewer, the gamespot review was done on the default level (Pro) where the AI is weaker to help newbies to the series. OS did their review on Superstar level where the AI is quite good.

[jbmagic]

Per one of the mods on OS who contacted the Gamespot reviewer, the gamespot review was done on the default level (Pro) where the AI is weaker to help newbies to the series. OS did their review on Superstar level where the AI is quite good.


Great news

I can't wait to pick this game up for the weekend.

[TroyF]

OK, I wanna get this straight:

The Bad: Free throws are extremely difficult to make; controls are often unwieldy; not significantly improved over last year; questionable artificial intelligence


So FT, which you can change the setting on is a flaw. Unwieldy controls are a problem. (anyone, anyone have problems in the demo with control?) Again, controls which you can use as much of or as few as you desire. Not all that improved from last year, when anyone who has played the demo could see otherwise. (not sure what the demo was in, but I doubt it was superstar) and questionable AI. . . AI which was pretty darned good last year and again, by the demo, looks good this year.

Sounds like a wonderful review. Meanwhile you have the Operation Sports guy stating that the game is the best sports game he's ever played. Hmmm. . . FWIW, last year I think I stopped on all star level and was challenged plenty.

Oh well, to each his own. I did something with this game I never do. I reserved it at Gamestop. Got the call tonight it would be in tomorrow. Unlike EF27, I have no other commitments tomorrow night outside of the game. Don't bother contacting me online tomorrow, I'm gonna be going to be playing some games and setting up a franchise. (may even sim a few years in franchise)

I'll post impressions. I am an unabashed fanboy of this game though. If anyone is on the fence, you may want to read other reviews. I'll tell you if it sucks (which would be the most dissapointing news in my gaming history), but the likely scenario will have me raving about the game.

Don't blame me if you buy it and hate it. Not my fault. :)

[CleBrownsfan]

*I* will be getting NBA 2k7 from Best Buy tomorrow :)

I'd be up for a 360 league for sure. But uh, can we make it a 14 or 28 game schedule? (something way shorter than 82). I always play the 28 game schedules in the 1-player and it makes it so I can get through more seasons.

8.2 from Gamespot? That's a bummer, I need to see what the downsides are. Look for me online tomorrow night! :)

I agree - if we do get this league going then we'll for sure have to make the season shorter. 28 games sounds perfect.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I think 28 games for a season would be great. I don't know how the schedule works, but the number of games is reasonable. I mean, with 28 games, do you play almost every team once, or do you only play within your conference, or does it work some other way? I'd check on NBA 2K6, but I don't have it anymore. It doesn't matter anyway. I'm just curious.

I'll get the game on Friday unless I can scrounge up a lot of extra pennies before payday... which I'm going to try to do. :D

[TroyF]

Troy, I like you, but if we get this league going, I'm going to try to kill Carmelo. It'll be like the old days of hitting Gretzky after the whistle on the Sega Genesis. Gotta get rid of the superstar. :)

Little offtopic in this post, but what the hell. In all seriousness Pumpy, I'm just glad you called Melo a superstar. The perception in the country before last year was that Melo was some selfish ball hog who didn't play D, only thought of his offense, was a horrible teammate and a poster boy for being a stupid punk and thug.

Some of it was his own fault, because of his PR mistakes. But for the on court play, he was at a level at 19 and 20 that few have ever been at. Not Kobe, not TMac. The one guy he wasn't quite as good as at 19 or 20 was named Lebron. So people took it upon themselves to shred Melo every chance they got. He can't do this, can't do that, etc. The perception stayed even through the start of this season when he was ripped off of an all star spot despite being the only true scorer on the Nuggets, getting doubled and tripled on a nightly basis and hitting a half a million game winning shots.

Now the perception seems to be shifting. He's a sensational player and people are finally starting to realize all of the things he can do on the court. (and they don't all just involve offense) He's a better pure man to man defender than James (although James is a superior help defender). He's great passer who gets punished because the Nuggets don't have another jump shooter on the team not named Carmelo. With any sort of a teammate who can hit a consistent 15 footer, Melo has 5 or 6 assists a night without problem. As for the offense, he's one of the most diverse offensive forces in the league. He can post you up, take you to 20 and shoot over you, drive by you or kill you on the break. (his rebounding numbers will never be high, he's told to break for the wing and take off on most missed baskets.

I just hope the Nuggets stay healthy this year, someone emerges as a shooting threat and that Melo finally gets his due. The US national team seemed to do a lot to change perception, I hope that continues.

[CleBrownsfan]

Best Buy usually has a lot of copies of these types of games - right? My local Gamestop told me yesterday that they will only have limited copies.

[Kodos]

I've had bad luck with online leagues, but would enjoy playing folks online in exhibition games. Besides, I'm pretty sure that I suck at this game. :)

[dervack]

Here is the league options, right from the book...

Players: 30, 28, 26, 24, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8
Playoff Teams: 4, 8, 16
Length: 8-82
Playoffs: 1, 3, 5, 7
Qtr Length: 1-12

You can also set up round interval, which is how long a game must be played between, and whether you want a flexible schedule, which I'm not sure what that is yet.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I think "flexible schedule" means that you don't necessarily have to play your games in a particular order. Your team might be scheduled to play Memphis 8 games down the line, but suppose that you and I are both available to play each other right now. We could play that game on the schedule instead of waiting for you to play your other 7 games first.

I hope that's right because it would make scheduling much easier.

[dervack]

Well, there are some ammendments to what I posted already.

The number of playoff teams are tied to the number of teams. So, if we have 8 teams, only 4 can make the play offs. But if we have 10, 4 or 8 can make it. So, basically, it works like this...

8 teams= 4 playoff teams
10-16 = 4 or 8 playoff teams
18-30= 4, 8, or 16 playoff teams

The number of games isn't anywhere from 8-82. It's 8, 16, 24, 32 or 82. It also seems that you can't set individual playoff series length. If you choose 1, they all are one. It does seem you can have a fantasy draft though, so that's nice.

[dervack]

I think "flexible schedule" means that you don't necessarily have to play your games in a particular order. Your team might be scheduled to play Memphis 8 games down the line, but suppose that you and I are both available to play each other right now. We could play that game on the schedule instead of waiting for you to play your other 7 games first.

I hope that's right because it would make scheduling much easier.
That would make sense, I just wish they would actually say that in the book or online.

[TroyF]

Three hours. . . three hours. . . three hours. . .

[Kodos]

If someone wasn't available to play their game, could you just play against their VIP?

[Pumpy Tudors]

If someone wasn't available to play their game, could you just play against their VIP?
Probably. If I remember correctly, the offline, single-player VIP is separate from the online VIP. I hope I'm wrong because, then, even when we're playing our own individual franchises, our VIPs will build up in case we miss an online game. I think the two VIPs are different, though. :( It's still a great feature.

[Kodos]

We could have a VIPs-only league! My VIP is gonna mop the floor with yours!!!! ;)

[dervack]

The one thing I don't like so far, and I just turned it on to look at some of the options, is that you have to load up a draft class at the begining of the season, which is understandable. However, that means the first season will not have the real draft class, unless you wait till College Hoops comes out, and then sim the first season, and then start your association.

[Pumpy Tudors]

We could have a VIPs-only league! My VIP is gonna mop the floor with yours!!!! ;)
That would be hilarious! :)

Does anyone know if 2K Sports automatically sets up a web page for your league like they did with one of their NFL games a few years back? I remember that we had a (short-lived) FOFC NFL league going on, and there was a 2K-generated web page that showed boxscores and stats. Do they still do this?

[dervack]

Looks like it did for the 2k6 games, but not sure on the 2k7 games.

[dervack]

Yes, it looks like you still can have a league page with standings, stats, and a schedule.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Excellent. I'm looking forward to this. The flexible schedule (if it works the way I described) would make this relatively easy. I love the way the XBox 360 handles things. You can always just hit a button to see if your friends are online, no matter what game you're playing. If you know who's left on your schedule, you can always see if they're online and get your league game set up. I hope that we're able to get through a season without major issues. If we keep the league relatively small, that would make it easy, but I guess we'll see how much interest we get.

I am thisclose to taking a credit card over to Best Buy to buy the game tonight. It shouldn't be a big deal if I pay the $60 toward the charge card when I get paid on Friday, right? :D Damn, I'm glad that my three-week stretch of no paychecks is coming to an end.

[dervack]

Excellent. I'm looking forward to this. The flexible schedule (if it works the way I described) would make this relatively easy. I love the way the XBox 360 handles things. You can always just hit a button to see if your friends are online, no matter what game you're playing. If you know who's left on your schedule, you can always see if they're online and get your league game set up. I hope that we're able to get through a season without major issues. If we keep the league relatively small, that would make it easy, but I guess we'll see how much interest we get.

I am thisclose to taking a credit card over to Best Buy to buy the game tonight. It shouldn't be a big deal if I pay the $60 toward the charge card when I get paid on Friday, right? :D Damn, I'm glad that my three-week stretch of no paychecks is coming to an end.
Well, but the game at Best Buy, then give the gift card to your wife for her to get something, or to use it towads a Christmas Gift. That should work, right?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, but the game at Best Buy, then give the gift card to your wife for her to get something, or to use it towads a Christmas Gift. That should work, right?
Not a bad idea. :) She would definitely appreciate the gift card, and she might forgive me for coming home with a $60 game when I barely have enough cash in my pocket to cover my lunch until Friday. ;)

[Deattribution]

Played with the trading a bit.. Took over the Knicks in franchise mode - traded Stephon Marbury, Knicks 1st round pick and Channing Frye for Kobe Bryant.

Next, traded Stevie Franchise and Jamal Crawford plus my 2nd round pick for Shaq and someone else I forget now just to balance the rosters.

Switched to the Bobcats, traded Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor and 2nd round pick for Lebron James and Drew Gooden.


Not so sure about the trading, it isn't HORRIBLE but still seems pretty bad. Wallace and Okafor both have solid potential and are 80ish, Gooden 74 while James is 98. Kobe 98... Shaq 92.

They might factor in age and salary, but still a bit off.

[Eaglesfan27]

I haven't played the game at all yet. Just about to turn it on now as my wife just went to sleep. However, one of the complaints of the gamespot reviewer was the right stick controlling menus and how you had to back out of the menu all the way each time. If he bothered to read the first page of the instruction manual, he would have read that moving the Right stick a second time does exit to the main menu, but you can use B at any time to just go back one menu screen. I saw that in my 30 seconds browsing the instruction manual. You would think a professional reviewer would have noticed it as well. Enough typing, time to play a game or two before bed :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Played with the trading a bit.. Took over the Knicks in franchise mode - traded Stephon Marbury, Knicks 1st round pick and Channing Frye for Kobe Bryant.

Next, traded Stevie Franchise and Jamal Crawford plus my 2nd round pick for Shaq and someone else I forget now just to balance the rosters.

Switched to the Bobcats, traded Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor and 2nd round pick for Lebron James and Drew Gooden.


Not so sure about the trading, it isn't HORRIBLE but still seems pretty bad. Wallace and Okafor both have solid potential and are 80ish, Gooden 74 while James is 98. Kobe 98... Shaq 92.

They might factor in age and salary, but still a bit off.


Sounds like this will require some house rules, but I can live with that :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

I haven't played the game at all yet. Just about to turn it on now as my wife just went to sleep. However, one of the complaints of the gamespot reviewer was the right stick controlling menus and how you had to back out of the menu all the way each time. If he bothered to read the first page of the instruction manual, he would have read that moving the Right stick a second time does exit to the main menu, but you can use B at any time to just go back one menu screen. I saw that in my 30 seconds browsing the instruction manual. You would think a professional reviewer would have noticed it as well. Enough typing, time to play a game or two before bed :)
Trust me, the B button doesn't work as you'd expect it to. You'll see for yourself. :)

[BigMak]

Well I bought the game today. Everytime I get 2 minutes into a game I get the "Disc is unreadable" error. I am going to exchange it tomorrow for a replacement. I hope it is the game and not my 360. The machine is less than a month old. I only have one other game - Madden and that has done it once in awhile. I rarely played Madden. I have read that there are some problems with the 360's. I am hoping I don't have one of the troublesome units.

[TroyF]

Played with the trading a bit.. Took over the Knicks in franchise mode - traded Stephon Marbury, Knicks 1st round pick and Channing Frye for Kobe Bryant.

Next, traded Stevie Franchise and Jamal Crawford plus my 2nd round pick for Shaq and someone else I forget now just to balance the rosters.

Switched to the Bobcats, traded Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor and 2nd round pick for Lebron James and Drew Gooden.


Not so sure about the trading, it isn't HORRIBLE but still seems pretty bad. Wallace and Okafor both have solid potential and are 80ish, Gooden 74 while James is 98. Kobe 98... Shaq 92.

They might factor in age and salary, but still a bit off.

Haven't played with the trading yet, but if it is that bad, I'll have to use the trade override and make sure I make fair trade offers. Not a biggie.

I've played a couple of games and the gameplay is everything I expected. I'm not dunking the ball nearly as much as last year. It is essentially the same type of game. You move the ball for a good shot, your shooting % is OK. You try to force drives or shots in bad situations, it isn't so good.

I'm not having the trouble others are on the FT. Hitting well over 80% at this point, some with average FT shooters.

[jbmagic]

Well I bought the game today. Everytime I get 2 minutes into a game I get the "Disc is unreadable" error. I am going to exchange it tomorrow for a replacement. I hope it is the game and not my 360. The machine is less than a month old. I only have one other game - Madden and that has done it once in awhile. I rarely played Madden. I have read that there are some problems with the 360's. I am hoping I don't have one of the troublesome units.

What is the current revision date on your xbox 360?

Some stores might carry old revision of the xbox 360.

[TroyF]

Trust me, the B button doesn't work as you'd expect it to. You'll see for yourself. :)


Yeah, the menu system can be a tad frustrating. Not sure why they did it in the way they did. I'll get used to it, but it is frustrating.

[Eaglesfan27]

One thing that I don't like as it confused me. The game will bring up the sub menu even if subs are set to auto (as they are in the quick game by default.) Took me a few minutes to figure out why my subs weren't working right.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

What are people's early favorite camera?

So far I'm digging the nosebleed, 2k, and TV broadcast 1.

[TroyF]

Dola -

What are people's early favorite camera?

So far I'm digging the nosebleed, 2k, and TV broadcast 1.


2K so far. It's what I used last year and I like it agian this year. I'm going to have to screw around with the camera angles tomorrow night. Had a great night of play in.

I think the scoring is a bit high for me on the default superstar sliders. Usually getting something like 67-60 halftime scores. I'm not sure if I'll turn it down to 10 minute quarters or play with the sliders a bit. I guess I could turn the speed down to slow and see if that would do it.

The gameplay is top notch. Very well done. One other slightly annoying thing. . . the fantasy draft will not snake, you'll stay in the same spot every round. Loving the game so far.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm also playing on default Superstar. I turned the game speed and player speed down to 33 and I just had a 44-37 half with the Knicks leading my Sixers using 12 minute quarters. However, midrange jumpers and 3 pointers seem to go in just a tad too much. I might knock them down a notch or so. However, I think it's going to take very little tweaking to get top notch realistic gameplay. :)

[Deattribution]

Haven't played with the trading yet, but if it is that bad, I'll have to use the trade override and make sure I make fair trade offers. Not a biggie.

I've played a couple of games and the gameplay is everything I expected. I'm not dunking the ball nearly as much as last year. It is essentially the same type of game. You move the ball for a good shot, your shooting % is OK. You try to force drives or shots in bad situations, it isn't so good.

I'm not having the trouble others are on the FT. Hitting well over 80% at this point, some with average FT shooters.


I've toyed with it a bit more having started a more serious franchise, it seems not everyone with equal ratings have the same values... For instance, Okafor is worth a bit more at 84 (think that's about right) than say Ben Gordon at 84. Infact, in the trade I listed above I believe Channing Frye was more valuable than Marbury..

I'm using the Bobcats again, since I wanted to start a little thin and since I won't trade Okafor I've found it pretty hard to find any suitors for a good center. Despite the interest bar being high (full even) they seem more unwilling to part with a big name player without getting a potential star in return.

So I guess ultimately it will depend on how many players you have at your deposal, with the Knicks I had plenty obviously.

Other thoughts -

First off, I didn't play 2k6 so I might be repeating some old features but...

I really like the player-lock feature, that's actually how I'm playing all my games. It gives me alot of involvement in the game without giving me the urge to shoot the ball with any guy I can get my hands on. I find myself passing more, looking for double teams, trying to play smart ball and being sure not to give up my assignment on defense.

I'm still adjusting to the franchise and all it's features but it looks like it should be alot of fun with the developement system similiar to madden's off-season mini games and trying to balance the practice schedule with team games and player fatgiue.

Presentation is pretty solid, not overly elaborate but enough to keep me immersed through the halftime and interested to see who got the player of the game at the end.

The gameplay is awesome - it has a very authentic feel. Every game I find myself looking for the teams weakness and knowing their A-list players are going to be the ones to watch out for. Some games start off really hard fought defense, and then turn into a shoot fest while others start off fastbreak crazy then into a sloppy turnover game. I can tell a big difference once my players start wearing down as well.

Overall, I think it's going to be a game I'll be playing for quite a while.

[CleBrownsfan]

Me and a buddy played 3 games (co-op) last night playing as the Cavs. We went 0-3 but each game came down to the last shot - good stuff. One game we played against the Spurs we were down by 16 at one time ang The King took over. LeBron is almost TO GOOD in this game but I'm not complaining! Played with 8,9, & 10 min quarters. 9 min seemed about right - Cavs took 73 shots (54%) and the Hawks took 70 (52%)with the score Atl 89 - Cavs 86.

So far having a real good time - I'm for sure more into NBA 2K7 than I am/ever was with Madden 07.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I only played one game, my Grizzlies vs. the Knicks. I played 12 minutes per quarter on the All-Star difficulty. I won the game 113-99, but the last 2 minutes had a lot of points being scored as I lost all interest in playing defense. Once New York hit 99, I clamped down a lot because, hell, who wants the Knicks scoring 100 on them?

Everything seemed great in the game, except I thought that there were slightly too few fouls, and I could not get a fast break going. It seemed like the CPU players were always faster than mine. I don't know the speed ratings of my players vs. the Knicks, so maybe this is an isolated thing, but I can't imagine trying to run (or defend) a break against a team like Phoenix. It'd be damn near impossible. The problem is that the speed seemed slanted in favor of the CPU, and I couldn't figure out how to adjust that. Last year's game had separate player speed sliders for User team and CPU team, and this year's game doesn't. It just has one player speed slider, and while that's helpful in toning the pace of the game down, it doesn't ease my worries that there might be "speed cheats."

One last thing: Does anyone know the difference between the "game speed" and "player speed" sliders? I thought that maybe "game speed" would actually run the clock faster (which would make it hard to set up an offense), but it didn't. It did make the players run around like they were on uppers when I had the slider at 100. If it changes the player speed, though, what does the "player speed" slider do? I'm all confused.

[TroyF]

Pretty cool you tube:

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ehf8TnmI7s&NR

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm a bit confused about the difference between the two sliders as well, Pumpy, but my first game with 33/33 worked well, so that is what I'm sticking with. I also wish there was a seperate player speed slider as the CPU doesn't seem to get a slight speed boost at Superstar level, but otherwise that level plays well. I'm going to up fouls just the slightest bit, knock down shooting percentages a touch and start my franchise now. :)

[TroyF]

I'm a bit confused about the difference between the two sliders as well, Pumpy, but my first game with 33/33 worked well, so that is what I'm sticking with. I also wish there was a seperate player speed slider as the CPU doesn't seem to get a slight speed boost at Superstar level, but otherwise that level plays well. I'm going to up fouls just the slightest bit, knock down shooting percentages a touch and start my franchise now. :)


The speed boost the CPU seems to get on superstar has me annoyed a bit. I may try to go to All-Star tonight and use slider tweaks as necessary to get things right. I'm going to turn down player and game speed like you did, bump up fouls just a hair (if you drive, you still can draw plenty of fouls and have fouls on your guys) Also tweak the shot sliders down and then see what happens.

A little frustrating, because without the speed boost advantage for CPU players, it plays one hell of a game. Oh well.

[Eaglesfan27]

The speed boost the CPU seems to get on superstar has me annoyed a bit. I may try to go to All-Star tonight and use slider tweaks as necessary to get things right. I'm going to turn down player and game speed like you did, bump up fouls just a hair (if you drive, you still can draw plenty of fouls and have fouls on your guys) Also tweak the shot sliders down and then see what happens.

A little frustrating, because without the speed boost advantage for CPU players, it plays one hell of a game. Oh well.


Yeah, that is frustrating. I'm actually going to try my first game on All-Star now. It is the middle of the 5 difficulty levels, so maybe it is well balanced?

Playing my first game in a minute. :)

[TroyF]

I won't get to play for a few hours, you can tell me how successful it is before I waste my time.

Thanks :)

[Kodos]

I had trouble getting out on breaks in the demo, but I figured that was because I suck. :)

[Deattribution]

I've been playing All-star with 8 minute quarters and having good variance with the scoting - Scores have been 98 to 90, 88 to 79 and my last was 125 to 123 since both played virtually no defense.

[Deattribution]

I had trouble getting out on breaks in the demo, but I figured that was because I suck. :)

I've found the actual game to be alot more fun than the demo, 4 minutes just doesn't do the game justice since both teams don't really settle in til about the second quarter.

[kingnebwsu]

I bought this yesterday and started my association with the Cavs. First game was vs Denver and they went up quick 10-2, but I came back and pulled even by the half. I was up 2 at the end of the 3rd and ended up winning by 5. I would have won by 10 if I could hit the FT's. I think it'll be easier when I get more practice shooting with each individual player.

I am interested in joining a 360 NBA league and since the Cavs have been claimed, I'd like to take someone like Phoenix or Miami or any of the other highly rated teams ;)

Look for me online this week since this is the first new 360 game that I'm really excited about.

[Eaglesfan27]

All-Star just played a great game. I thought it was too easy at first, as I managed to go way ahead of the Hawks, but I played sloppy late in the 3rd and early in the 4th and Joe Johnson caught on fire along with Josh Smith. They ended up winning 88-86 on a last second 3 by Speedy Claxton. I had way more fast breaks then they did. I thought I was going to crush the Hawks who were rated about 20 points below my team, but am glad that my sloppy play was punished even on All-Star level in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I'm going to stick with All-Star level, but I might knock shooting down a bit if percentages remain high. I think it is the level where it is all about the players' ratings without any speed boost for the CPU. Anyway, here is the post from the dynasty:


A few notes:

I'm playing on All-Star level (due to fast breaks being nearly impossible for me on Super Star. I've only adjusted shooting sliders for both teams down 2 notches, except for the FT shooting. I've also knocked fouls up 1 notch across the board.

Also, I generally play the C on defense as I love trying to swat shots and get good rebounds.


At the end of 1, we are up 22-18 thanks to some great plays by McGrady. We've also had 3 fast break baskets on the slower hawks, all baskets in which Louis Williams leaked out for a long pass reception and layup.


At the end of 1, McGrady has 10 points, 1 board, and 2 assists. Williams has 5 points and 2 assists. Webber has 5 points, 5 boards, and 3 assists. He's still worthless except for his passing as he is shooting 2 of 6 to score his 5 points..



Kevin Ollie is coming in to to give Williams a break, as is Willie Green to spell Andre. Finally Steven Hunter is coming in at C.




With 6 minutes left, I sit McGrady. Dangerous move as he has been the key to our offense tonight, but he is getting tired. I bring back in Williams and Andre. Korver will hopefully get some open looks at SF now..


Our bench is playing better than most of their bench guys, and the starters like S. Williams are getting tired. We just got our 3rd foul on S. Williams thanks to a nice up and under by Shavlik Randolph, our backup PF.



Thanks to an 18-5 run that was partially done with McGrady on the bench, we are up 44-31 at the half.


Once Joe Johnson went out, they couldn't do anything. We are shooting 52% against the horrible Hawks defense while they are shooting 42%.


McGrady is 6 of 9 for 15 points, 5 assists (mostly on double teams) and 3 boards.

Steven Hunter is 4 of 4 for 8 points, almost all on McGrady assists.


Joe Johnson is their main offensive weapon. He is 6 of 15 for 12 points.



We go back to our starting lineup to start the 3rd quarter.



Down 16 midway through the 3rd is causing them to press more, trap more, and take more changes in the lane. It's causing us to make some turnovers, but is also leading to some easy baskets.

By my count, we have 6 fast break baskets midway through the 3rd. Much better than superstar. All of the speeds of players seem more realistic to me..


Meanwhile, the Hawks just had their 2nd Fast Break Basket (they have also blown 1 earlier.) My guys are getting tired, and they just blew by me.


Thanks to a run powered by Joe Johnson, they pull within 10 at the end of the 3rd. 63-53, we lead.



With McGrady sitting during the first 4 minutes of the 4th they pull it to 69-65.

Time to get our star back in there.


I thought maybe the game was too easy on All-Star, but the Hawks have tied it 69-69 behind 32 from Joe Johnson, but he is now exhausted...



We never should have let Johnson get hot. He and Childress are keeping them neck and neck with us. We take a 86-85 lead on a fadeaway jumper by McGrady with 4.6 seconds left..


Claxton fakes Louis Williams out of his shorts and nails a 3. 88-86 with 0.8 seconds left!


We use a timeout to advance it to Midcourt (glad they finally got that right in this game..)


McGrady catches the shot, turns around and clanks it off the side of the rim.


Game over. 88-86 win for the Hawks. They shot 52%. We shot 50%.

We shot it 76 times. They shot it 67 times.


We were 6 of 16 from the FT line. They were 10 of 12.


We were 2 of 10 from behind the arc. They were 6 of 20.


We had 26 assists. They had 24.

We had 8 turnovers. They had 13.

We outrebounded them 37-35.

We each had 2 blocks.

We had 55 points in the paint. They had 28.

We had 18 fask break points. They had 8.





Joe Johnson was the player of the game with 32 points and 9 assists. He ended up with 15 of 25 shooting.

Josh Smith (not Joe) had 22 points, 7 boards, and 3 assists on 10 of 17 shooting.

Josh Childress had 11 points on 5 of 7 shooting.

Claxton had 10 points on 4 of 10 shooting.

Shelden (not Scott) Williams had 1 point and 9 boards. He was 0 of 4 from the field.


Pachulia was 2 of 2 for 8 points (4 of 6 from the line.)



McGrady led us with 27 points, 9 assists, 4 boards, and a steal. He had 2 turnovers. He was 12 of 19.

Iguodala was 5 of 11 for 10 points. He also had 4 boards, 3 steals, and 2 assists.

Korver had 10 points in limited action with 4 of 8 shooting (2 of 5 behind the arc.)


Hunter had 10 points on 5 of 8 shooting.

Louis Williams had 9 points and 5 assists as well as a steal. Most of his points were on the fast break. He was 4 of 10.


Webber had 8 points, 12 boards, and 4 assists on 3 of 11 shooting.


Dalembert had 2 points, 3 boards, and 2 blocks on 1 of 2 shooting.


The most fouls any of my guys had was McGrady with 3. They didn't drive very much at all.


Overall, I think All-Star played a pretty good game, but I might eventually knock shooting sliders down a touch more.
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[Pumpy Tudors]

EF, how many minutes per quarter are you playing?

[rexallllsc]

Well I bought the game today. Everytime I get 2 minutes into a game I get the "Disc is unreadable" error. I am going to exchange it tomorrow for a replacement. I hope it is the game and not my 360. The machine is less than a month old. I only have one other game - Madden and that has done it once in awhile. I rarely played Madden. I have read that there are some problems with the 360's. I am hoping I don't have one of the troublesome units.

Seems like a problem that happens with a lot of the 2k games. Happened to me with 3 versions of the NCAA game.

[rexallllsc]

For the online leagues, can they last for multiple seasons? i.e. drafts, trades, signings, etc.?

[Kodos]

I got my ass kicked on all-star with Pheonix against Minnesota. I'm really terrible at this game. I can't rebound or shoot threes or get to the basket. Outside of that, I rock the house.

[jbmagic]

Is there a way to control only one player on your team and the other 4 players is AI controll?

If so, is there a way to ask for the ball from your teammates?

[Deattribution]

Is there a way to control only one player on your team and the other 4 players is AI controll?

If so, is there a way to ask for the ball from your teammates?

Yeah you turn on player-lock in gameplay options, X makes the AI shoot (they'll do it on their own also) and A is to call for the ball. You can hold down the back trigger and switch which player you have locked on also during the game.

[kingnebwsu]

Sigh. Went to halftime of my 2nd game up 30-23. Sigh. Made subs and stuff to prepare for the 2nd half. Sigh. Went back to the game and the camera was just slowing panning right to left and all the players were huddling as if they were in a timeout. I waited several minutes and messed with menu options and stuff and then about 5 minutes after it all started I got the red X "disc unreadable" error. Sigh.

I got my 360 in March and I hoped it would have lasted me a while, but this doesn't bode well. Disc looks perfect and I opened the case yesterday and put it right into my 360, and it never was removed from the drive (until just now to look at it).

I even have the $20 intercooler thing, and that stopped this error for about 2-3 months (but I was mostly playing Xbox 1 games). Argh, almost midnight and too pissed to play again before sleep...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :(

[kingnebwsu]

Sigh. Went to halftime of my 2nd game up 30-23. Sigh. Made subs and stuff to prepare for the 2nd half. Sigh. Went back to the game and the camera was just slowing panning right to left and all the players were huddling as if they were in a timeout. I waited several minutes and messed with menu options and stuff and then about 5 minutes after it all started I got the red X "disc unreadable" error. Sigh.

I got my 360 in March and I hoped it would have lasted me a while, but this doesn't bode well. Disc looks perfect and I opened the case yesterday and put it right into my 360, and it never was removed from the drive (until just now to look at it).

I even have the $20 intercooler thing, and that stopped this error for about 2-3 months (but I was mostly playing Xbox 1 games). Argh, almost midnight and too pissed to play again before sleep...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :(

[mtolson]

I got my ass kicked on all-star with Pheonix against Minnesota. I'm really terrible at this game. I can't rebound or shoot threes or get to the basket. Outside of that, I rock the house.

U got a Live account. I would love to play you. It would be epic becauase I suck too !!!!!!!

[Kodos]

:) U got a Live account. I would love to play you. It would be epic becauase I suck too !!!!!!!

Yep. It's in my sig.

[CleBrownsfan]

Anyone come up with (or found) any decent sim sliders yet?

[Pumpy Tudors]

I played online for the first time last night. Apparently, there are still people out there who immediately jump to the 2K camera, hand the ball to their star player, and try to drive and dunk on every single play. My opponent used the Lakers and made sure to pass to ball to Kwame Brown every time up the court.

OK, I'm kidding.

The first half was nothing but Kobe Bryant dunking, dunking, dunking. The Lakers scored 28 points in the first half, and Kobe had 22 of them. I didn't really know how to stop it at first, but then I just double-teamed Kobe every time he got the ball. I forced a few turnovers and made him shoot jump shots. I fouled the Lakers liberally because the guy couldn't make free throws.

His entire defensive scheme was to defend the same type of offense he ran. Not too bright. I'm using the Grizzlies. My point guard is 3 feet tall, and I have Eddie Jones, Mike Miller, and Rudy Gay on the perimeter. Sure, I have to limit Pau Gasol, but what's he think I'm gonna do? Drive Damon Stoudamire into traffic? I just took mid-range jumpers the whole game until I built a lead, and then the guy had to get aggressive. That's when I fed the ball inside. Stromile Swift was scoring points for me.

Just like in my franchise game, I got disinterested in defense in the final two minutes, so the clown managed to put a few more points on the board and cut into my lead, but I still won 58-50. I had trouble stopping the nonstop driving/dunking people last year, but it's easier for me to defend this time around. Apparently, my opponent thought it was too easy. He tagged me as an "avoided player" because I was "unsporting." I guess defense is frowned upon! :)

[Kodos]

Well, it is the NBA. He has a point. :) Mtolson: What's your gamertag? I'll add it to my list.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, it is the NBA. He has a point. :)
Touche. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

EF, how many minutes per quarter are you playing?

12 minutes. With player and game speed at 33/33, I think the game played a fairly realistic game of Basketball. Of course, 1 game is a small sample size. However, I was also generally getting good stats on Superstar. The fastbreak (or lack thereof) was just annoying me on that level.

Edited to add: What is really bad is that I just want to go home and play after work, but I still have some preparations to finish for my wife's birthday party on Sunday.. :(

[Eaglesfan27]

Sigh. Went to halftime of my 2nd game up 30-23. Sigh. Made subs and stuff to prepare for the 2nd half. Sigh. Went back to the game and the camera was just slowing panning right to left and all the players were huddling as if they were in a timeout. I waited several minutes and messed with menu options and stuff and then about 5 minutes after it all started I got the red X "disc unreadable" error. Sigh.

I got my 360 in March and I hoped it would have lasted me a while, but this doesn't bode well. Disc looks perfect and I opened the case yesterday and put it right into my 360, and it never was removed from the drive (until just now to look at it).

I even have the $20 intercooler thing, and that stopped this error for about 2-3 months (but I was mostly playing Xbox 1 games). Argh, almost midnight and too pissed to play again before sleep...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :(


That is rough :(

I feel really lucky that I got a launch 360, and I've never had an error.

[kingnebwsu]

Knock on wood for you :)

I'll play it again tonight/tomorrow and see what happens...

[jbmagic]

That is rough :(

I feel really lucky that I got a launch 360, and I've never had an error.

What the revision date of your xbox 360?

This way people that have problem can compare their revision date.

[Balldog]

So I think this game might just make me break down and buy a 360.

[CraigSca]

Where do you find the rev date, JB?

[Eaglesfan27]

Where do you find the rev date, JB?

Yeah. I have no idea where to find this.

I'm just knocking on wood that it continues to perform this well.

[Neuqua]

Truthfully it's one of the reasons I'm scared to purchase the 360. I would rather wait for the price drop, hoping that Microsoft will have solved the issues by then.

[CleBrownsfan]

So I think this game might just make me break down and buy a 360.

I've kicked myself in the arse for purchasing a 360 'cause I have yet to fall in love with any game yet. Well, my mind has changed - NBA 2k7 is amazing and I can not stop playing it!! The most realistic sports game I've played on any console.

[Eaglesfan27]

I was just looking at stats on NBA.com, and I noticed a few misconceptions I have. I didn't realize that the average team shoots between 75-80 times per night (I thought it was 5 to 10 shots lower.) I didn't realize the average team hits 45-46% of their shots (with Phoenix topping out at 48%.) Tonight, I get to play most of the evening, and it seems like sliders might need even less adjusting than I first thought. I might bump the speed up slightly from 33/33 as a result and knock the shooting sliders slightly further down. I can't wait to get off work tonight.

[CraigSca]

Ugh - you guys are killing me. I'm not an NBA fan (college only), but hearing the talk about this game is making me want to breakdown and pick up a copy. I'll be near a Gamestop right after lunch...decisions, decisions.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I would love to play some more, but I have a very busy weekend. I'm going to try to squeeze a couple of games in, but I'm really not free until Sunday afternoon. Bah. This game is too good. :)

[TroyF]

Ugh - you guys are killing me. I'm not an NBA fan (college only), but hearing the talk about this game is making me want to breakdown and pick up a copy. I'll be near a Gamestop right after lunch...decisions, decisions.


No decisions. If you are a BASKETBALL fan, you'll love this game. Pretend you are playing with made up teams, hold a fantasy draft and mix everyone up (what I like to do), Sim through 15 seasons with coach firing off so you can play with a bunch of made up players and whatever conceptions you have about the league will be gone anyway.

But get this game. Any basketball fan who enjoys video games is doing themselves a serious disservice by not getting it.

Now, I won't give you your 60 bucks back if you don't like it either, so you still have a decision to make I guess. :)

[CraigSca]

I understand there are a number of signature moves for the players. If you sim 15 years in the future will there be any signature moves?

[Eaglesfan27]

I understand there are a number of signature moves for the players. If you sim 15 years in the future will there be any signature moves?

I don't know this for sure, but from impressions I've read created rookies are not given signature shots, but you can edit them and assign the signature shots to them. Of course, that will be a lot of editing for 15 years down the road. However, someone who has simmed ahead on here could answer that more definitively.

However, I'll echo what Troy said. If you like basketball, I can't imagine you not liking this game.

I honestly probably won't buy another game for at least 2 months (when I usually buy at least 2 a month) because this game is going to suck up most of my gaming time. I'll probably only play other games when I have short gaming time available and don't have time for a full game of NBA 2k7 or when I want to play on the laptop while watching TV.

[MizzouRah]

Not sure I'll ever get the game, but the demo is quite fun to play. :P

[CleBrownsfan]

I've seen some videos of mean ass cross-overs. I know you hold the RT-LT and flick the Left stick to do a cross over but it seems when I make that move it's just your "normal" cross-overs (even with LeBron). ANybody making these "flashy" moves?

[jbmagic]

Not sure I'll ever get the game, but the demo is quite fun to play. :P

You will end up getting NBA 2k7 and NBA Live. :)

[Kodos]

I still suck at this game. I may need to drop down to Pro.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've seen some videos of mean ass cross-overs. I know you hold the RT-LT and flick the Left stick to do a cross over but it seems when I make that move it's just your "normal" cross-overs (even with LeBron). ANybody making these "flashy" moves?

I did it once with AI, but I think I just did RT-LT and the left stick flick left-right as well. Mcgrady just seems to do regular crossovers, or maybe I need to do something differently.

[CleBrownsfan]

Another questions - what is clutch factor? Is there an "X" factor per player that acts as a clutch player or does that it just mean when a team is down by a lot makes everything while the team that is up misses every shot?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Another questions - what is clutch factor? Is there an "X" factor per player that acts as a clutch player or does that it just mean when a team is down by a lot makes everything while the team that is up misses every shot?
I believe that players do have a "clutch" rating, and in late-game, tight situations, the players with high clutch ratings will play better than those with low clutch ratings.

[CraigSca]

Just picked this up. It was free with my trade-ins, so it was a no-brainer. We're having friends over for dinner, so I'll hopefully be checking this out later tonight.

[TroyF]

I believe that players do have a "clutch" rating, and in late-game, tight situations, the players with high clutch ratings will play better than those with low clutch ratings.

Another area where Melo will be killing you Pumpy. :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

Another area where Melo will be killing you Pumpy. :)
I am going to kill him. I will KILL him. I'll make Jake Tsakalidis sit on him or something. Whatever it takes. Arrrghhghgrrr.

[CraigSca]

I got annihilated by the Knicks (we were losing by 30+ in the 3rd quarter when I had to shut it off). While I agree it's an excellent simulation, it's an excellent sim of PRO basketball. The NBA game just seems to hip-hoppy slow to me.

I hope the college game is given the same treatment as the pro version.

[TroyF]

I got annihilated by the Knicks (we were losing by 30+ in the 3rd quarter when I had to shut it off). While I agree it's an excellent simulation, it's an excellent sim of PRO basketball. The NBA game just seems to hip-hoppy slow to me.

I hope the college game is given the same treatment as the pro version.


Just an idea. . . Tweak the sliders. You can speed the game up. Make it 10 minute quarters to sim a half and tweak the sliders to run up and down the floor faster.

As for the college game, 2K adds a lot of their great college ideas to the pro game. The on the fly subs weren't in last years pro game but were in the college game.

I prefer NBA basketball, so I still spent more time with 2K6, but the NCAA game was rock solid last year and I wouldn't expect anything different this year.

[MizzouRah]

You will end up getting NBA 2k7 and NBA Live. :)

You couldn't GIVE me NBA Live. :)

[mtolson]

Well, it is the NBA. He has a point. :) Mtolson: What's your gamertag? I'll add it to my list.

Mine is marct. I know, I failed creativety class.

[mtolson]

Mine is marct. I know, I failed creativety class.

Spelling too !!!

[Eaglesfan27]

The same guy who did the 360 review and gave NBA2k7 an 8.3 has posted the NBA Live review. He gave Live a 6.5 (the lowest I can remember any EA game getting in a long time.)

Interesting that the review wasn't posted until Friday, unlike most of their reviews of EA games that are done on release day.

[RGunner]

well i gave in and bought this game...so if anyone wants to play on live (360) my gamer tag is kbz2286

[Kodos]

I figured out part of my problem. I'd read where I needed to lower the shooting sliders to 42 or so. The problem was, I only did that for MY shooting. No wonder the CPU was shooting so well and I couldn't hit crap. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

I figured out part of my problem. I'd read where I needed to lower the shooting sliders to 42 or so. The problem was, I only did that for MY shooting. No wonder the CPU was shooting so well and I couldn't hit crap. :)


I've gone back up to 46 for in close (and dunks and layups), 47 for medium, 48 for 3 pointers for both sides. Oh yeah, I lowered dunks in traffic to 45 for both sides. At least on All-Star difficulty, I'm getting very realistic shooting percentages. The only other slider I've touched is fatigue up to 52 (again for both the CPU and human) to make guys tire a bit quicker. However, I'm contemplating upping defensive rebounding for my side, or lowering offensive rebounding for the CPU just a little bit.

[jbmagic]

Does the new fatigue system carry over to the next game? Especially back to back games.

[dervack]

ya

[kingnebwsu]

I played a co-op game yesterday with a buddy who's not a gamer. I put it on rookie mode, but the AI was still pretty brutal overall. We won by 4, but it was a hella close game. It was pretty much all me, since my buddy isn't very good. But they just shot lights out from downtown, something like 5/7. Anytime they were left open, they just drained their shots.

I'm on the middle difficulty level, and this game is definitely a challenge.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm routinely getting beat on All-Star (middle difficulty as well.) Good stuff.

[RGunner]

ive only played about 5 games on this but good god this game is great...im glad i chose this one over live....i played my first game on live earlier before football and had the guy quit on me as i was killing him...it was fun though once again my gamertag is kbz2286 if u wanna play

[jbmagic]

Operation Sports gave a great review of the game.

http://reviews.operationsports.com/reviews.aspx?game=nba2k7360

[Grammaticus]

I played online for the first time last night. Apparently, there are still people out there who immediately jump to the 2K camera, hand the ball to their star player, and try to drive and dunk on every single play. My opponent used the Lakers and made sure to pass to ball to Kwame Brown every time up the court.

OK, I'm kidding.

The first half was nothing but Kobe Bryant dunking, dunking, dunking. The Lakers scored 28 points in the first half, and Kobe had 22 of them. I didn't really know how to stop it at first, but then I just double-teamed Kobe every time he got the ball. I forced a few turnovers and made him shoot jump shots. I fouled the Lakers liberally because the guy couldn't make free throws.

His entire defensive scheme was to defend the same type of offense he ran. Not too bright. I'm using the Grizzlies. My point guard is 3 feet tall, and I have Eddie Jones, Mike Miller, and Rudy Gay on the perimeter. Sure, I have to limit Pau Gasol, but what's he think I'm gonna do? Drive Damon Stoudamire into traffic? I just took mid-range jumpers the whole game until I built a lead, and then the guy had to get aggressive. That's when I fed the ball inside. Stromile Swift was scoring points for me.

Just like in my franchise game, I got disinterested in defense in the final two minutes, so the clown managed to put a few more points on the board and cut into my lead, but I still won 58-50. I had trouble stopping the nonstop driving/dunking people last year, but it's easier for me to defend this time around. Apparently, my opponent thought it was too easy. He tagged me as an "avoided player" because I was "unsporting." I guess defense is frowned upon! :)

What is his xbox name, we can all tag him as avoided?

Just kidding...

[RGunner]

ive found that online out of the 4 games ive played, 3 of them have basically shot 3 pointers 75% of the time...granted its easy to beat them, which is why im 3-1 so far...its just annoying...other than that this game is great...ill be online a lot tonight probably so if u want to play send me a msg or something my tag is kbz2286

[Izulde]

Sigh. Went to halftime of my 2nd game up 30-23. Sigh. Made subs and stuff to prepare for the 2nd half. Sigh. Went back to the game and the camera was just slowing panning right to left and all the players were huddling as if they were in a timeout. I waited several minutes and messed with menu options and stuff and then about 5 minutes after it all started I got the red X "disc unreadable" error. Sigh.

I got my 360 in March and I hoped it would have lasted me a while, but this doesn't bode well. Disc looks perfect and I opened the case yesterday and put it right into my 360, and it never was removed from the drive (until just now to look at it).

I even have the $20 intercooler thing, and that stopped this error for about 2-3 months (but I was mostly playing Xbox 1 games). Argh, almost midnight and too pissed to play again before sleep...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :(

I've had the same thing happen with every single one of my 360 games. Annoyance to the extreme and it's gotten to the point where I haven't bought any new games, despite my wanting very much to buy NBA 2K7 last night.

I just need to find time to contact Microsoft about getting it fixed.

[RGunner]

anyone up for an online game?

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm about to fall asleep playing this one, but I'll be looking for an online game later this week.

[Groundhog]

Dear posters to this thread;

Firstly, please do not take this the wrong way. I do appreciate the fact that I can visit FOFC and read threads such as this, which detail the various games that I may be interested in, and providing me with some varied feeback to work with in my decision whether to buy a game or not.

However, after reading the first 4 pages of this thread I have seen my desire to purchase an xbox 360 solely to play NBA 2k7 rise significantly. Seeing this thread reach page 5 has done nothing but increase this desire to a near insatiable lust.

My (lack of) finances makes buying an xbox 360 at this stage an extremely unwise decision, yet at my lunch break just now I found myself in a store handling the console and looking at price tags. At one point I had the boxed console in my hands and my brain sent a signal to my hand to reach for my credit card. It was literally touch and go for about 20 seconds, before my girlfriend happend to call my mobile, snapping me out of my hypnotic state and allowing me to regain my senses.

Please, I beg of you, end this madness.

Thanks and kind regards,
Groundhog.

[sooner333]

Dear posters to this thread;
At one point I had the boxed console in my hands and my brain sent a signal to my hand to reach for my credit card.

Wait...isn't that just like free money??? Or am I in trouble for maxing out like five of them????

[Pumpy Tudors]

Groundhog won't be happy that I'm continuing his paint, but I have more comments. :)

In my franchise, my Grizzlies got beaten by the Pistons by 13 points. That's no surprise, but my problem is that I seem to get way too many steals. I mean, as a team, I think I'm getting 15-20 per game. All my other stats are OK. I don't think the CPU is getting an abnormal number of steals against me, so I guess I only need to mess with the sliders on my side. The thing is that I'm not constantly going for steals. It's more that the CPU players are making passes that deflect off my players. Once the ball hits one of my guys, it's not too hard for me to pick up the ball for a steal. I don't know which slider(s) to change. Should I raise something like offensive awareness for the CPU? Should I lower my defensive awareness? Is there some type of "passing accuracy" slider? I'm not sure what to do, but I shouldn't be stealing the ball 15-20 times per game without much effort on my part.

[CleBrownsfan]

I started a 360 league if anybody is interested...

hxxp://online.2ksports.com/league/index?p=360&l=45634

league name= sim league 07

[RGunner]

Anybody have any interest in starting a 360 league??

I'd be interested...

[TroyF]

Groundhog won't be happy that I'm continuing his paint, but I have more comments. :)

In my franchise, my Grizzlies got beaten by the Pistons by 13 points. That's no surprise, but my problem is that I seem to get way too many steals. I mean, as a team, I think I'm getting 15-20 per game. All my other stats are OK. I don't think the CPU is getting an abnormal number of steals against me, so I guess I only need to mess with the sliders on my side. The thing is that I'm not constantly going for steals. It's more that the CPU players are making passes that deflect off my players. Once the ball hits one of my guys, it's not too hard for me to pick up the ball for a steal. I don't know which slider(s) to change. Should I raise something like offensive awareness for the CPU? Should I lower my defensive awareness? Is there some type of "passing accuracy" slider? I'm not sure what to do, but I shouldn't be stealing the ball 15-20 times per game without much effort on my part.


I don't know Pumpy. I'm averaging about 8 steals a game, which is still a bit high, but not to a ridiculous degree. This is with 12 minute quarters. How are you getting the steals? Is it all bad passes by the CPU or are you flicking the right stick and stealing it from players as they dribble? If it is the latter, yank up fouls and you'll stop doing it pretty quickly.

My current problem is that both the CPU and I are getting about 10-15 shots a game to much. I need to tweak the gamespeed slider some more and see if that fixes it. It's currently the only problem I'm having stats/realism wise.

[jbmagic]

8 steals a game is not high.

[Logan]

8 steals a game is not high.

He has spoken. No more discussion allowed.

[jbmagic]

He has spoken. No more discussion allowed.

Just look at the steals stats per team from last season and you will see.

8 average a game is not even high.

[Eaglesfan27]

I don't know Pumpy. I'm averaging about 8 steals a game, which is still a bit high, but not to a ridiculous degree. This is with 12 minute quarters. How are you getting the steals? Is it all bad passes by the CPU or are you flicking the right stick and stealing it from players as they dribble? If it is the latter, yank up fouls and you'll stop doing it pretty quickly.

My current problem is that both the CPU and I are getting about 10-15 shots a game to much. I need to tweak the gamespeed slider some more and see if that fixes it. It's currently the only problem I'm having stats/realism wise.


Somewhere between 37-40 gamespeed/player speed is giving me very good shot totals. 33 was a little bit too few shots.

[BigMak]

I would say 8 steals is very good. Here are the league averages per team per game the past 3 seasons:

2005/2006 - 7.17
2004/2005 - 7.51
2003/2004 - 7.66

So 8 is a little high but you just have to assume that you are one of the teams over it and steals will still average out.

[Eaglesfan27]

What difficulty level are you playing on Pumpy? Like Troy, my team is averaging about 8 steals per game. We have a few games where we will get 10 or 12 (Iguodala had 5 in one game) but we have other games were we get 2 or 3. So far, the team average is just over 8.


I'm playing on All-Star.

[Eaglesfan27]

I started a 360 league if anybody is interested...

hxxp://online.2ksports.com/league/index?p=360&l=45634

league name= sim league 07

Is this just going to be FOFC guys?

[CleBrownsfan]

Is this just going to be FOFC guys?

Don't know if we could get 12 of us to play but if we can than yes.

[Kodos]

8 average a game is not even high.?

He has spoken. No more discussion allowed.

Typo. He forgot the question mark.

[Pumpy Tudors]

About the steals, I'm playing on All-Star. I would say that at least half my steals are coming from bad passes by the CPU, particularly in the paint. I've only played 3 games, and they were against New York, Charlotte, and Detroit. Maybe it's an anomaly, but things don't look good for steals so far. I'll check out the numbers more closely when I get home, but I do remember that I had 18 steals against Detroit, and that's just way, way too many. Maybe I'm just playing very good defense!

[Sweed]

Dear posters to this thread;

Firstly, please do not take this the wrong way. I do appreciate the fact that I can visit FOFC and read threads such as this, which detail the various games that I may be interested in, and providing me with some varied feeback to work with in my decision whether to buy a game or not.

However, after reading the first 4 pages of this thread I have seen my desire to purchase an xbox 360 solely to play NBA 2k7 rise significantly. Seeing this thread reach page 5 has done nothing but increase this desire to a near insatiable lust.

My (lack of) finances makes buying an xbox 360 at this stage an extremely unwise decision, yet at my lunch break just now I found myself in a store handling the console and looking at price tags. At one point I had the boxed console in my hands and my brain sent a signal to my hand to reach for my credit card. It was literally touch and go for about 20 seconds, before my girlfriend happend to call my mobile, snapping me out of my hypnotic state and allowing me to regain my senses.

Please, I beg of you, end this madness.

Thanks and kind regards,
Groundhog.

I've been planning on getting a 360 and I agree this thread is making me feel better and better about that decision. I have been patiently waiting to see if the rumored price drop does indeed occur.

The thing is the wife really has no idea that I am going to do this (don't worry I have the money all set aside in cash. No checks, no credit cards needed :D ). Well Saturday was her birthday but she had to be out of town so we did something Friday night. Then on Saturday my 360 urge was pulling at me and
I almost broke down. Then I started thinking, it's going to be bad enough when I make the purchase but to do it on her birthday would be like pouring salt on a wound :eek: So like you groundhog, I just let it go.

Besides, I've waited this long another month to see if the price goes down will be fairly easy to bear and maybe by then the 2k college game will be out. That will be a hard choice to make.

[Neuqua]

When is the rumored price drop supposed to take place? Any consensus?

[Kodos]

The rumor is it will drop around the release of PS3. (I don't know the exact date for that.)

[spleen1015]

The rumor is it will drop around the release of PS3. (I don't know the exact date for that.)

November 17th is the PS3 release day, I believe. November 19th for the Wii.

[CleBrownsfan]

The rumor is it will drop around the release of PS3. (I don't know the exact date for that.)

Why would the 360 drop in price when the PS3 is going to be a couple hundred more than the 360 is now?

[dervack]

The rumor is it will drop around the release of PS3. (I don't know the exact date for that.)
Which has been denied many, many times by the people behind the 360. Naturally, they could just be blowing smoke to get more consoles sold at 399, but I believe them when they say that, because right now, they don't need to drop the price.

[mtolson]

I've been planning on getting a 360 and I agree this thread is making me feel better and better about that decision. I have been patiently waiting to see if the rumored price drop does indeed occur.

The thing is the wife really has no idea that I am going to do this (don't worry I have the money all set aside in cash. No checks, no credit cards needed :D ). Well Saturday was her birthday but she had to be out of town so we did something Friday night. Then on Saturday my 360 urge was pulling at me and
I almost broke down. Then I started thinking, it's going to be bad enough when I make the purchase but to do it on her birthday would be like pouring salt on a wound :eek: So like you groundhog, I just let it go.

Besides, I've waited this long another month to see if the price goes down will be fairly easy to bear and maybe by then the 2k college game will be out. That will be a hard choice to make.

You guys are funny. I got one and am about to buy another because I am tired of sharing with the kids. What I buy with my extra cash is up to me, just like I don't question her about the zillions of shoes in her closet. The only thing my wife has to say is that "I am a big kid." I say go ahead and buy it on her birthday, just make sure you get her a very nice gift if you fill the need to neutralize the effect. And by very nice gift, make sure it is absolutely nothing that you benefit from as well or then you are in big trouble.

[spleen1015]

You guys are funny. I got one and am about to buy another because I am tired of sharing with the kids. What I buy with my extra cash is up to me, just like I don't question her about the zillions of shoes in her closet. The only thing my wife has to say is that "I am a big kid." I say go ahead and buy it on her birthday, just make sure you get her a very nice gift if you fill the need to neutralize the effect. And by very nice gift, make sure it is absolutely nothing that you benefit from as well or then you are in big trouble.

Some folks have different life styles. My wife and I combine our money. There is no mine and hers. It is all ours. She handles the budget and I get a monthly $ amount to spend on what I want.

[MizzouRah]

I just bitch and moan until she tells me to go ahead and buy it... that she's tired of hearing about x product. :)

[Kodos]

Which has been denied many, many times by the people behind the 360. Naturally, they could just be blowing smoke to get more consoles sold at 399, but I believe them when they say that, because right now, they don't need to drop the price.

I dunno. Xbox has a chance to really do damage to the two-time console champions. A significantly cheaper machine + a great lineup of games coming out could really steal Sony's thunder, even though Sony will sell every machine that they produce. But this is Microsoft's golden opportunity to take a significant lead in this generation in terms of installed user base.

[jbmagic]

Some folks have different life styles. My wife and I combine our money. There is no mine and hers. It is all ours. She handles the budget and I get a monthly $ amount to spend on what I want.


Sucker :)

[mtolson]

Some folks have different life styles. My wife and I combine our money. There is no mine and hers. It is all ours. She handles the budget and I get a monthly $ amount to spend on what I want.

Guess your right, I just have a hard time understanding it. We have a joint account that we both agree to put x amount in each month to handle the bills and planned purchases. Whats left we spend as we like. As long as we spend on stuff that does not hurt the marriage. I am fine with what she buys and she is fine with what I buy. Hell, I have been through 3 cars this year alone and she hasn't complained just one bit. I pay her car note so she could car less what I drive, as long as the house is paid, the kids have thier needs meet and we have money for entertainment everything is fine. I guest what works for some just doesn't work for others. Thier was a time when we just pooled our money, but I make 3 times what she makes and it was a constant source of arguments.

[RGunner]

Don't know if we could get 12 of us to play but if we can than yes.

quoting this to see if there is more interest

[kingnebwsu]

I'm definitely up for a league. I need to start playing online to get some practice...and I need to start playing more games in general. I've only played like 5 games since I bought the game last Tuesday. It's a terrific game that's better so far than 2k6.

I will chime in that the steals have seemed a bit high to me, too...but this game (finally) lets me play the "20 minutes of hell" full-court press stuff that I wanted to do in last year's game (but calling a quick press after a made basket made that tough). I got 12 steals last game in a win over the Nets. This is with 5 minute quarters.

I think I'm 4-1 so far in my league (on all-star). I'm the Cavs and my only loss thus far is to the Suns. The game does a really good job of really defining how the teams SHOULD play. Example: the Nets guards played really well, but their 4&5 guys are not very good, and it really showed. The rebounding margin (again on 5 min. quarters) was like 3:1 and I had maybe 4 offensive tip-ins. Ilgaukgas (sp) lead the team with 17 points and 5 boards and played really well.

The game before that was at Phoenix and it was a challenge. I fell behind by 12 in the first quarter and had it down to 1 at the half. I had a shot to take the lead in the early 3rd but it missed and I quickly fell behind by 7. I was down 7 with under 30 seconds to go and I hit some shots and forced 2 turnovers and put myself in a position to tie the game at the buzzer with a three. Sadly, it missed and I lost by 3. I never lead the whole game but I almost forced overtime. The burst at the end was almost surreal, because I was just playing for kicks at that point.

I guess my point is that, as the Cavs, I definitely felt like the lesser team playing vs the Suns. In many video games the player's skill can overcome that, but I found it tough this time. I know I'll get better, but it's a promising sign early on.

Anyone on the fence about getting this game should take the plunge, it's fantastic. Dunno how it is on the PS2/Xbox, but on the 360 it's definitely worth the $60, regardless of how the College Hoops game turns out. And I don't really like the NBA, and I really love college basketball.

That's my two cents. Apologies to the 360-fence sitters, but once you get it, it'll be worth the wait :)

[RGunner]

I'm definitely up for a league. I need to start playing online to get some practice...and I need to start playing more games in general. I've only played like 5 games since I bought the game last Tuesday. It's a terrific game that's better so far than 2k6.

I will chime in that the steals have seemed a bit high to me, too...but this game (finally) lets me play the "20 minutes of hell" full-court press stuff that I wanted to do in last year's game (but calling a quick press after a made basket made that tough). I got 12 steals last game in a win over the Nets. This is with 5 minute quarters.

I think I'm 4-1 so far in my league (on all-star). I'm the Cavs and my only loss thus far is to the Suns. The game does a really good job of really defining how the teams SHOULD play. Example: the Nets guards played really well, but their 4&5 guys are not very good, and it really showed. The rebounding margin (again on 5 min. quarters) was like 3:1 and I had maybe 4 offensive tip-ins. Ilgaukgas (sp) lead the team with 17 points and 5 boards and played really well.

The game before that was at Phoenix and it was a challenge. I fell behind by 12 in the first quarter and had it down to 1 at the half. I had a shot to take the lead in the early 3rd but it missed and I quickly fell behind by 7. I was down 7 with under 30 seconds to go and I hit some shots and forced 2 turnovers and put myself in a position to tie the game at the buzzer with a three. Sadly, it missed and I lost by 3. I never lead the whole game but I almost forced overtime. The burst at the end was almost surreal, because I was just playing for kicks at that point.

I guess my point is that, as the Cavs, I definitely felt like the lesser team playing vs the Suns. In many video games the player's skill can overcome that, but I found it tough this time. I know I'll get better, but it's a promising sign early on.

Anyone on the fence about getting this game should take the plunge, it's fantastic. Dunno how it is on the PS2/Xbox, but on the 360 it's definitely worth the $60, regardless of how the College Hoops game turns out. And I don't really like the NBA, and I really love college basketball.

That's my two cents. Apologies to the 360-fence sitters, but once you get it, it'll be worth the wait :)

if ur ever up for a game online check if im online, gamertag is kbz2286...im loving this game, especially online...one of the top sports games ive ever played, although Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball takes the cake because i played that forever.

[Kodos]

Played my first game online. Lost. No surprise there. It was fun though. :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

My online record is now 2-1. I was hoping to get the achievement for winning 3 ranked online games in a row, but I guess I'll have to start that quest over. :) I wish there was a way to play against your friends' VIPs. I'm pretty sure this was in an older version of the game, and it was definitely in at least one of the NFL games that 2K made. If it's in this game, I can't find it. I guess I don't really mind if the feature isn't there. What bothers me is that I can't tell if the feature is there. I can't stand the menu system because it's entirely possible that something is there and I just haven't found it. I guess it's good news when the biggest complaint is the menu, though. :)

[SegRat]

I hate basketball, but I love this game.

[Kodos]

One gripe is that when your opponent changes the camera online, it changes YOUR camera too. The guy I played last night changed it like 4 times, pausing a long time and flipping through every single camera angle repeatedly.

[Deattribution]

One gripe is that when your opponent changes the camera online, it changes YOUR camera too. The guy I played last night changed it like 4 times, pausing a long time and flipping through every single camera angle repeatedly.

I haven't played online yet, but that sounds like it could be incrediably annoying and a good way for someone to try to get you to quit while youre winning.

[Pumpy Tudors]

One gripe is that when your opponent changes the camera online, it changes YOUR camera too. The guy I played last night changed it like 4 times, pausing a long time and flipping through every single camera angle repeatedly.
On 360? I've had online opponents change their camera, and it didn't affect mine at all.

[Kodos]

Yeah, it was on the 360. It struck me as really strange.

I also didn't like that he could make the camera shake during my foul shots when I was the home team. Seems like only the visiting team should be subject to the shaking camera.

[Coop]

I just got this in the mail from gamesnflix,it doesnt come with a manual or anything. My question is does this game not have a crossover,spin,etc button? Because i cant find anything but that stupid hop thing.

[Kodos]

Hold in your triggers.

I think the game has a manual in the menus somewhere.

[RGunner]

anyone online for a game in about 20 minutes?

[CleBrownsfan]

Check out this video a guy made of NBA 2k7

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=185981

How the HELL did he do some of these sick moves?

[Neuqua]

Ugh.

I really wish I hadn't seen that video.

[Logan]

Is anybody looking to get this game for the original XBox? I bought it brand-new off half.com literally 2 days ago, for the sole purpose of trying something different (hadn't played an NBA game in about 4-5 years). I popped it in about 2 hours ago, messed around for a little bit and realized that basketball just isn't for me. If anyone wants to take it off my hands, send me a PM and maybe we can work something out. Ideally I'd like to just swap it for an XBox copy of NHL 2k7 (which retails for $10 less than NBA, but I'll call it even).



Mods, if this violates any rules, feel free to delete. I know we used to have a game trading thread, but that seems to have gone the way of QOTM.

[CleBrownsfan]

Okay - I'll ask again to see if I get a response.

How many could we get for an online league? (Xbox 360)

**Edit**

If you're interested:
A) Pick your team
B) Yes or No for fantasy draft
C) How many min. quarters do you want to play with?

A) Cleveland
B) Yes
c) 10 min

[Pumpy Tudors]

Okay - I'll ask again to see if I get a response.

How many could we get for an online league? (Xbox 360)
I'm up for it.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm up for it if games are primarily played on weekends.

A) Philadelphia

B) Either way.

C) 10 or 12 is good for me.

[LionsFan10]

I'll play in an online league as well ...

A) Chicago (if they're available)

B) Doesn't matter

C) 10 minutes is fine with me.