View Full Version : Don't get Michael Barrett mad!
Just ask AJ.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblclbg5><TD class=yspdetailttl height=18>Game Notes</TD></TR><TR><TD height=5></TD></TR><TR><TD class=yspscores>CHICAGO CUBS' MICHAEL BARRETT AND JOHN MABRY AND CHICAGO WHITE SOX'S A.J. PIERZYNSKI AND BRIAN ANDERSON WERE EJECTED BY HOME PLATE UMPIRE GREG GIBSON IN THE BOTTOM OF THE SECOND INNING FOR FIGHTING</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
bosshogg23
05-20-2006, 01:47 PM
"As Pierzynski went back to the dugout, he raised his hands in the air as a soldout crowd at U.S. Cellular Field roared and then began slapping hands with his teammates."
Good stuff.
Ryche
05-20-2006, 01:51 PM
That one was totally on Barrett, I really don't think AJ did anything wrong. Certainly nothing to the level of throwing a punch.
"As Pierzynski went back to the dugout, he raised his hands in the air as a soldout crowd at U.S. Cellular Field roared and then began slapping hands with his teammates."
Good stuff.
Even better. After AJ got to the dugout he started to put on his catching gear. Michael replaced his gear and was catching throws behind the plate as well.
Hey guys, there's no way either of you are staying in the game.
I was more surprised at the ejection of Mabry.
That one was totally on Barrett, I really don't think AJ did anything wrong. Certainly nothing to the level of throwing a punch.
I think AJ may have said something as he purposely tried to walk pass Barrett. AJ wasn't headed to his dugout when he got up. AJ's dugout was the other way.
sterlingice
05-20-2006, 01:54 PM
Well, AJ got cocky after bowling Barrett over on a play that wasn't even close. He slams his hands down on the plate and then up in the air. That said, it's nothing worse than, say, Jose Lima would do on a regular basis, tho. Don't want to see it in baseball, but definitely not justification for what happened next.
They exchange words and Barrett hauls off and lands a solid punch to Pierzynski's head and all hell breaks loose.
They've shown it twice on the Mets/Yanks snoozefest on Fox.
SI
chinaski
05-20-2006, 02:14 PM
that was sooo good. Then, Tadahito comes up and blasts the grand slam. what a great day to be at the park.
SirFozzie
05-20-2006, 02:14 PM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0520/mlb_a_barrett2_195.jpg
Oh yeah. Sucker Punch a go-go
Ryche
05-20-2006, 02:31 PM
I think AJ may have said something as he purposely tried to walk pass Barrett. AJ wasn't headed to his dugout when he got up. AJ's dugout was the other way.
Ah, didn't realize his dugout wasn't on the first base side. It looked like when he got up he was heading for his dugout and Barrett moved in front of him. Barrett should have just given him a good shove then. That punch will cost him a few games and dollars.
Bad-example
05-20-2006, 02:31 PM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0520/mlb_a_barrett2_195.jpg
I bet Stan Conte is smiling now.
Vince
05-20-2006, 02:32 PM
I find it hard to believe that this isn't AJ's fault.
SirFozzie
05-20-2006, 02:38 PM
I find it hard to believe that this isn't AJ's fault.
Come on, it's a complete sucker punch
Vince
05-20-2006, 02:56 PM
I haven't seen anything, I'm just going by what I know of A.J. Pierzynski.
RPI-Fan
05-20-2006, 03:40 PM
I haven't seen anything, I'm just going by what I know of A.J. Pierzynski.
I hate Pierzynski more than anyone, but this was 100% Barrett being a bitch.
sterlingice
05-20-2006, 03:45 PM
I hate Pierzynski more than anyone, but this was 100% Barrett being a bitch.
I'd say about 90% as Pierzynski did try to show them up. That said, it takes a real man to go after a guy with a punch when you're wearing catcher's gear. :rolleyes:
SI
After hearing Dusty's comments during the game to FSN, I'd have to agree with RPI. Dusty said Michael was upset he got plowed despite not having the ball.
bosshogg23
05-20-2006, 03:51 PM
Anyone have a video link for it? Saw the highlight on Fox but only once so far.
RPI-Fan
05-20-2006, 03:56 PM
Anyone have a video link for it? Saw the highlight on Fox but only once so far.
See the MLB thread.
Maple Leafs
05-20-2006, 03:57 PM
"As Pierzynski went back to the dugout, he raised his hands in the air as a soldout crowd at U.S. Cellular Field roared and then began slapping hands with his teammates."
So he gets drilled in the jaw, then plays to the crowd?
Somebody's been watching tapes of Chris Neil.
Coffee Warlord
05-20-2006, 04:02 PM
Anyone have a video link for it? Saw the highlight on Fox but only once so far.
Posted it in the MLB thread.
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctsYoWLgtuY
bosshogg23
05-20-2006, 04:04 PM
Thanks!
INDalltheway
05-20-2006, 05:29 PM
Way to go Barrett... At least you give the Cubs another reason to score 1 or 0 runs the next few games. Pretty good punch though.
k0ruptr
05-20-2006, 05:54 PM
nice way to fire up the only baseball team in chicago. Ahem
Vince
05-20-2006, 06:51 PM
Wow. I was definitely wrong -- Barrett was being a complete punk.
And RPI, I'd think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who can hate Pierzynski more than me. I spent three months doing research on MLB catcher statistics to help out in his arbitration case. The data I gathered played a part in helping win him the biggest arbitration award in MLB History for a catcher -- which my team, the San Francisco Giants, eventually had to pay. We traded away Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser for Pierzynski. He proceeded to have a terrible season for the Giants while causing clubhouse strife, was released, then went on to win a World Series with the White Sox while posting a career high in HR.
I can't stand the guy.
Maple Leafs
05-20-2006, 08:33 PM
I wouldn't have thought it was possible, but even when he's getting sucker-punched AJ Pierzynski looks like a shit-eating punk.
clintl
05-20-2006, 10:08 PM
I think AJ may have said something as he purposely tried to walk pass Barrett. AJ wasn't headed to his dugout when he got up. AJ's dugout was the other way.
AJ said that he was walking past Barrett to pick up his helmet, and if you watch the replay, it's pretty clear that's exactly what he was doing. Now that doesn't mean he didn't say something, but he definitely was walking toward where his helmet landed.
AJ said that he was walking past Barrett to pick up his helmet, and if you watch the replay, it's pretty clear that's exactly what he was doing. Now that doesn't mean he didn't say something, but he definitely was walking toward where his helmet landed.
Yeah, just saw that on ESPN. The guys on FSN said his helmet went the other way. Maybe they just saw Podsednik's helmet.
miami_fan
05-20-2006, 11:08 PM
Why was AJ thrown out of the game? After he got punched, he was standing behind the plate while the majority of the brawl was going on.
MizzouRah
05-20-2006, 11:28 PM
Go White Sox!
Celeval
05-20-2006, 11:48 PM
Why was AJ thrown out of the game? After he got punched, he was standing behind the plate while the majority of the brawl was going on.
Well, the umps only got the one look at it - the first time I saw it, it looked like AJ lowered his shoulder into Barrett when going to get the helmet before the punch, too. I don't blame them for the toss, if nothing else than to ensure there's not another brawl later.
SuperGrover
05-21-2006, 11:54 AM
FYI Barret said he didn't think AJ had said anything to him when they came together. He was pretty apologetic about the entire incident.
Klinglerware
05-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Wow, AJ doesn't know the meaning of "laying-low"...
A.J. Pierzynski, who was punched in the face by Cubs catcher Michael Barrett yesterday, went 2-for-3 with a solo homer and a walk in a 7-4 White Sox loss on Sunday. He was also involved in an altercation with Cubs starter Carlos Zambrano.
After Pierzynski homered off Zambrano in the fourth, the left-handed catcher started clapping his hands while rounding the bases. Zambrano began yelling at Pierzynski, who antagonized the Cubs starter further by pounding his chest and pointing to the sky -- as Zambrano often does when leaving the mound -- after crossing home plate. Zambrano became enraged and needed his teammates to restrain him, but the benches remained in their dugouts and play continued without incident.
miami_fan
05-21-2006, 05:58 PM
Can Zambrano REALLY get upset about someone showing him up?
Logan
05-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Zambrano began yelling at Pierzynski, who antagonized the Cubs starter further by pounding his chest and pointing to the sky -- as Zambrano often does when leaving the mound -- after crossing home plate.
I'm not just trying to defend Pierzynski, but I think this point is interesting. Over the past couple years, I feel like there have been many times where pitchers have gotten upset about being "shown up" by batters, either after home runs, big hits, or just crossing the plate. And yet these are mostly the same pitchers who will sprint off the mound after a big K, start screaming, pounding his glove, etc. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done (on both sides), but seems to be a "pot calling the kettle black" situation.
saldana
05-21-2006, 09:48 PM
can we get an over under pool or a poll started for the number of games barrett will be suspended for?
and as far as barrett being upset about getting run over when he didnt have the ball, what exactly would he like AJ to do with the entire plate blocked? stop at the batters box and say excuse me? if you are going to stand there, be prepared to get crushed by a guy coming down the line, ball in hand or not.
clintl
05-21-2006, 10:06 PM
can we get an over under pool or a poll started for the number of games barrett will be suspended for?
and as far as barrett being upset about getting run over when he didnt have the ball, what exactly would he like AJ to do with the entire plate blocked? stop at the batters box and say excuse me? if you are going to stand there, be prepared to get crushed by a guy coming down the line, ball in hand or not.
Not to mention the fact that it's technically illegal for the catcher to block the plate without the ball (although never called).
JonInMiddleGA
05-26-2006, 12:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2459060
Barrett gets 10 games plus a fine.
Anderson gets 5 games & a fine.
3B Coach Joey Cora gets 2 games
Pierzynski gets a fine
rkmsuf
05-26-2006, 12:06 PM
meh, 10 games. it was just a good old fashioned donnybrook. not a big deal. we need more donnybrooks.
st.cronin
05-26-2006, 12:36 PM
Pierzynski gets fined for getting punched in the mouth?
rkmsuf
05-26-2006, 12:37 PM
Pierzynski gets fined for getting punched in the mouth?
he was asking for it. he wanted it.
DaddyTorgo
05-26-2006, 12:47 PM
how the fuck does AJ get fined? really that's ridiculous!! you see the same thing in the NBA. Player A will go off and attack Player B, and player B gets fined even if he doesn't retaliate.
To me what that is is a disincentive to retaliate. If you're going to get punished either way, might as well get your licks in. AJ shoulda cleated Barrett in the nads at that point, if he was already looking at a fine. WTF
dervack
05-26-2006, 12:49 PM
how the fuck does AJ get fined? really that's ridiculous!! you see the same thing in the NBA. Player A will go off and attack Player B, and player B gets fined even if he doesn't retaliate.
To me what that is is a disincentive to retaliate. If you're going to get punished either way, might as well get your licks in. AJ shoulda cleated Barrett in the nads at that point, if he was already looking at a fine. WTF
I think he was fined for being tossed from the game. Whether he should have been tossed or not is a different story.
JonInMiddleGA
05-26-2006, 01:11 PM
I think he was fined for being tossed from the game.
But if that's the case, then shouldn't Mabry have been fined too, since he was also ejected? He may have been, but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere (maybe I overlooked it?).
bosshogg23
05-26-2006, 01:17 PM
I think he was fined for being tossed from the game. Whether he should have been tossed or not is a different story.
AJ said on PTI that he expected to be fined for exactly that, being tossed from the game for participating in a brawl.
But if that's the case, then shouldn't Mabry have been fined too, since he was also ejected? He may have been, but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere (maybe I overlooked it?).
Personally, I believe AJ may have been fined for his actions after the brawl.
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