PureSim Baseball 2007 Demo

[Shaun Sullivan]

OK, we are releasing a demo later this week, and as a gift to FOFC'ers I'd like to post that I have a BETA demo available for download. So, if you were on the fence with PureSim 2007 give this a try.. Again, its not the official demo, but you are big boys :)


(LINK REMOVED -- WE'RE GETTING READY TO RELEASE THE OFFICIAL DEMO THIS WEEK -- THANKS FOR HAVING A LOOK AT THE BETA)

I'm especially interested in uncovering any serious issues so I can tweak the "public" release of the demo.

I hope you like it!

[chinaski]

woohoo!

[Shaun Sullivan]

Gotta take this down for a bit... Got crushed and there is an issue. Coming soon :)

[chinaski]

uh oh, ive already dl'd, installed and the draft is running :)

[chinaski]

hopefully the issue is "oops, i put up the full version!"

[MrBug708]

Damn...I was 97% done...

[Shaun Sullivan]

hopefully the issue is "oops, i put up the full version!"

lol

Nope.

[Neuqua]

Very much looking forward to the demo. Any chance of it going back up tonight?

[Bad-example]

Thanks Shaun. I will try the demo in the coming days. Looking forward to it.

[Shaun Sullivan]

OK, linky is updated. Again, beta DEMO so let me know of any serious issues if you see em.

[Shaun Sullivan]

BTW, did you guys notice the link got shortened to pu..lease

:)

[jbmagic]

Thanks Shaun

Is this demo updated with updated fixes you just recently done with your retail one?

[SackAttack]

Thanks Shaun

Is this demo updated with updated fixes you just recently done with your retail one?

Download it and find out, man. Jeez.

[dervack]

Download it and find out, man. Jeez.
Well, it is 110 mb dude.

[korme]

How long can you play?

[SackAttack]

Well, it is 110 mb dude.

I really don't care.

"Does anybody have impressions of all this stuff? I don't want to buy the game until there's a demo I can try."

"Can anybody tell me if this stuff is in the demo? I don't want to download it and try it until somebody holds my hand."

At some point, dude's got to cowboy up or get off the damn horse.

[moriarty]

Sweet, thanks Shaun. I'll be downloading tonight.

[Terps]

Nice! Downloading it now.

[CraigSca]

Played it. Purchased it :). Any idea when the released version will be 1.1 too? I feel weird buying it and going back to a previous version.

[lafan825]

Shaun,
When I click on game manual the pdf file is from the Puresim Basaeball 2005 Gold Edition. Is the manual the same for Puresim BB 2007?

[Terps]

Can you not save in the demo or am I just not seeing where it's at?

[chinaski]

Can you not save in the demo or am I just not seeing where it's at?

seems like it autosaves, maybe on exit and after each sim?

[SirFozzie]

autosaves/backups

[TroyF]

Saving was one of my questions. It auto saves and does it often.

You do have the ability to move the file away to replay a game if you so choose.

there won't be a lot of "damn, my star got hurt, I'm reloading from last save point" in this one.

[chinaski]

one thing that threw me off was starting a new league. Does it always auto draft and assign you a team?

[SirFozzie]

Nope, you can use PureSIM Classic (without the quickstart) and it will ask what teams you want to be NON-CPU controlled

[tucker rocky]

I DL'ed last night, but wasn't able play, as sleepy time came up.

I will play tonight and see what I like and don't like.

I may have to tone down with less teams, as auto-draft takes awhile for 30 teams.

[Shaun Sullivan]

So, what's the word folks? Love it? Hate it? In between?

I need to know what the FOFC crowd thinks.

[Bea-Arthurs Hip]

I wll be buying this in the near future. I am playing with the demo right now and am enjoying it, although it is taking some time getting used to the interface as I have always played OOTP. Great work Shawn!

[PadresFan104]

I will assume that the demo allows you to customize the experience with logos, photos, and ballpark files. If that's the case, please drop by my new website and see what's available.

http://web.mac.com/sixwilsons/iWeb/PureSimMods/Main.html

Logos:
- Doesn't matter where you put 'em. You assign logos to each team through the Front Office screen for each team.

Ballparks:
- Doesn't matter where you put 'em either. You click on "Ballpark" from the team screen, then select "Edit" and finally "Import."

Face Packs:
- Download these images into the Puresim/mods/faces directory. Each decade has it's own folder. Then fire up the game and go into "Options" from the Home screen and tell the game you want to auto-assign photos to the players. There's even generic photos in two of the available face packs if you are running a fictional league.

Al

[CraigSca]

I just started playing today. I love the fact it creates its own ballparks. After taking over my Oklahoma City team I found that I am DEFINITELY in a pitcher's park. It's kind of fun to see my pitchers do well and watch my batters struggle. I plan to play late into the night tonight.

[Rich1033]

I will be buying in the future, just dont have the funds now. Great work.

[tucker rocky]

So far so good.
I'm leaning towards getting the full copy.

If I do get the full copy, are there any updates that I should get?

or

Is it updated if I DL?

[Ksyrup]

I d/l'd the demo and am messing around with it. Quick question...can we alter the initial league settings later in the game? For instance - and this is my main concern - is it possible to start a league with real players in 1920, auto-sim until 1975, then turn on free agency/financials, etc., to mirror real life? Or, do I have to create the league with financials/free agency on in order to have it later in the game?

[jbmagic]

Shaun,
When I click on game manual the pdf file is from the Puresim Basaeball 2005 Gold Edition. Is the manual the same for Puresim BB 2007?



I see the Puresim Basaeball 2005 Gold Edition manual too.

[Ksyrup]

Looking at the almanac after the first season ends...in the career records, the players shouldn't have teams next to their names, should they? That doesn't seem appropriate for career records. Single-season, sure.

[Ksyrup]

I think I recall prior versions of PS allowing minor leagues to sim like major league games. Is that still available? I didn't see the games simming, and I couldn't find an option to sim them.

[Bee]

I downloaded the demo and played around some last night. A couple questions and a comment.

Is there an easy way to get rid of the year after everyone's name when starting a real player league and importing drafts?

Can you start a season say in 1955 and have all the records and player career stats imported? I ran a 1955 league but there were no career records or career stats. I was expecting the game to import all of that info from the Lahman's database.

My comment was that I had one minor issue with the AI. During free agency I went out and signed a bunch of starting pitchers ( for some reason there was a ton of quality starters available and no one seemed interested). I was then able to trade some of them for very high quality position players. For example, I traded a couple of the free agent pitchers for Mickey Mantle who had led the league in almost every category the year before. It seemed like an easy exploit if you can sign players no one wants in free agency and then trade them away for the valuable players.

[lynchjm24]

I think I recall prior versions of PS allowing minor leagues to sim like major league games. Is that still available? I didn't see the games simming, and I couldn't find an option to sim them.

No, the stats are produced OOTP-like now.

[CraigSca]

One thing that has to be changed - pitcher splits are only shown in typical hitting-style statistics. Splits need to be shown as standard pitching statistics (IP, H, R, ER, W, K, ERA).

[Shaun Sullivan]

One thing that has to be changed - pitcher splits are only shown in typical hitting-style statistics. Splits need to be shown as standard pitching statistics (IP, H, R, ER, W, K, ERA).

I'm not sure I agree on that. I usually think of splits being shown more like I am doing it. Maybe because I am use to ESPN.com Have a look here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=4242

Thanks for the feedback. I *do* want to expand the available splits so I'll do some more research.

[moriarty]

Downloaded last night and played with no glaring problems (nice) ohter than the manual being the wrong version as others noted..

I haven't dug too deep yet (haven't messed with the trade AI) but so far it looks very good. Thanks for making the demo available Shaun - it should certainly help improve sales.

[CraigSca]

I'm not sure I agree on that. I usually think of splits being shown more like I am doing it. Maybe because I am use to ESPN.com Have a look here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=4242

Thanks for the feedback. I *do* want to expand the available splits so I'll do some more research.

While I agree the vs. Righty and vs. Lefty stats probably should use the batting stats, I think the April, May, June, etc. and last 7 days would be better served showing pitching stats. I sim one week at a time, and I like to see how my pitchers did for the week. For me, seeing 7 IP, 5 H, 2 R, etc. is much more intuitive than seeing something like 26 AB, 5 Hits, etc.

[TroyF]

While I agree the vs. Righty and vs. Lefty stats probably should use the batting stats, I think the April, May, June, etc. and last 7 days would be better served showing pitching stats. I sim one week at a time, and I like to see how my pitchers did for the week. For me, seeing 7 IP, 5 H, 2 R, etc. is much more intuitive than seeing something like 26 AB, 5 Hits, etc.

Agree. The lefty/righty splits should show the batting stats, the month/week/last ten starts type splits should show pitching numbers.

[Ksyrup]

I tend to agree with Craig and Troy. Splits involving certain types of hitters or game situations should be batting stats, but weekly/monthly stats should be pitching stats.

[Cringer]

I downloaded the demo and played around some last night. A couple questions and a comment.

Is there an easy way to get rid of the year after everyone's name when starting a real player league and importing drafts?


I remember there being an option for this as you start up the league. I started a league in 1912 and was able to turn it off. Can't say exactly where it was, but the option is in there.

[dervack]

Yeah, it's a check box towards the bottom of the screen. I'm liking the demo so far Shaun, Great work on Puresim.

[Terps]

Can you start a season say in 1955 and have all the records and player career stats imported? I ran a 1955 league but there were no career records or career stats. I was expecting the game to import all of that info from the Lahman's database.



Yeah, that bothers me because whenever you start a league, like I started one in '75 w/ the O's, all the players have that year as their debut year. It messes up awards too, because Dave Kingman won the Rookie Of The Year in my sim.

[rdomico]

What features are disabled in the demo? Can you play an entire season?

[Terps]

I've only gone through 1975 and the offseason in my sim, not sure how long you can play. You can start in 1975, 1986, and I forget the other 2 years.

[Terps]

Dola, it's 1927, 1955, 1975 and 1986 that you can start in.

Edit - Assuming you play with real players.

[CraigSca]

I played the demo (despite buying the released version) because I liked starting at 1.1. The demo stopped for me one week into the second regular season.

[moriarty]

I played the demo (despite buying the released version) because I liked starting at 1.1. The demo stopped for me one week into the second regular season.

So basically you can play a season and go through spring training of the next. That's pretty sweet. Should give everyone a pretty good feel for the game.

[Neuqua]

Can you play the current season in the demo?

[moriarty]

Can you play the current season in the demo?

Not with real players, no.

[henry296]

Even with the real game you must start with the 2005 season and 2006.

[moriarty]

One minor thing I saw in the demo:

On the PSPN report, there was a note about a guy hitting a walkoff homer to win the game, but it listed his batting average as .000. When I clicked on the player card it showed his correct average of .122

[Icy]

Not with real players, no.

That was my only reason to not to buy it finally and wait for ootp. When i buy a sport text sim for a pro sport i always play with real and current players and i only play fictional when i'm tired of playing with real players. I know this is not related to the game author but to the mod guys, but those mod guys are usually unnoficially helped by the developers to have the real rosters just after the game is released (example, primelord's rosters and FOF).

[DaddyTorgo]

That was my only reason to not to buy it finally and wait for ootp. When i buy a sport text sim for a pro sport i always play with real and current players and i only play fictional when i'm tired of playing with real players. I know this is not related to the game author but to the mod guys, but those mod guys are usually unnoficially helped by the developers to have the real rosters just after the game is released (example, primelord's rosters and FOF).

but the real rosters are in the release game through the Lahman DB Icy. They're just not included in the demo.

[sovereignstar]

but the real rosters are in the release game through the Lahman DB Icy. They're just not included in the demo.

Not opening day/spring training rosters though, which is what I'm sure most guys are interested in.

[DaddyTorgo]

Not opening day/spring training rosters though, which is what I'm sure most guys are interested in.

blah. so 2005 rosters are. which is fine by me. and i'm sure someone will have a template up (if there isnt one already) with opening day/spring training rosters for 06. i just havn't bothered to look as I've enjoyed starting in 05 just fine.

[Icy]

Not opening day/spring training rosters though, which is what I'm sure most guys are interested in.

Exactly, i'm always seasonal for new games. If the game would have been released 4 months ago, before the new season started, 2005 rosters would have been ok for me. But now that the season is running, i want to take over a team with real rosters, in fact i'm waiting for ootp to start the season with the 2006 Marlins, a crap team that will be so fun to rebuild. Real players/teams/finances help me a lot to get into new games, as i said before, i don't play fictional until i'm tired of playing with real rosters.

About replaying season from 10 years ago, well i don't trust enought the database converting from ootp or Puresim. I always have the feeling that the stats are not translated into ratings properly. Probably i'm wrong as lots of guys play ootp or puresim that way, but it's how i feel. Maybe i should give it a shoot.

[sovereignstar]

About replaying season from 10 years ago, well i don't trust enought the database converting from ootp or Puresim. I always have the feeling that the stats are not translated into ratings properly. Probably i'm wrong as lots of guys play ootp or puresim that way, but it's how i feel. Maybe i should give it a shoot.

I feel the same way. I'm most concerned with how incoming players' ratings are handled and how they enter the league. Just not my style.

[moriarty]

One thing I don't like that I think Bee mentioned earlier is that it doesn't look like the historical records are brought in when you use real players (e.g. everyone looks like a rookie). Sure you can back up 10 years and simulate forward, but I'd like to start a season with say Bonds 8 homeruns behind Ruth or something.

Is there any option for enabling this or do you just start out with no historical records regardless?

[DaddyTorgo]

One thing I don't like that I think Bee mentioned earlier is that it doesn't look like the historical records are brought in when you use real players (e.g. everyone looks like a rookie). Sure you can back up 10 years and simulate forward, but I'd like to start a season with say Bonds 8 homeruns behind Ruth or something.

Is there any option for enabling this or do you just start out with no historical records regardless?

it's there in there on one of the tabs on the player card (Real MLB Stats it's titled ) although I agree with you it would be nice to see that right on the main player card so you could have a continuous career total for a player (as is now the "Real MLB Stats" card has everything up to 2005 and everything after is on the "Career Stats" card).

[henry296]

it's there in there on one of the tabs on the player card (Real MLB Stats it's titled ) although I agree with you it would be nice to see that right on the main player card so you could have a continuous career total for a player (as is now the "Real MLB Stats" card has everything up to 2005 and everything after is on the "Career Stats" card).

Although the real stats are imported they are not counted towards career totals. Therefore, if you start in 2005 then Bonds career starts for the record book/almanac will only include 2005 and on.

[Bad-example]

The official demo was released today. Get it here http://www.matrixgames.com/games/downloads.asp?gid=329

[Galaril]

I bought this on day one and played around with it and in fact really like it. But, I am quite surprised no one has put together a 2006 roster set for the gameand one doesn't look to becoming . I could do it myself, I guess if i had the skill or patience I suppose..................It's juts that it's been out for over a week or not haiving a current 2006 roster has really killed my enthusiasm for this one. I didn't think this would be a factor but I was wrong. I think it is because initial I am intereste in this season not 1897 or 1997 for that matter. That being said ,I know there are aton of people playing this in historical replay of years long past so I am in the minority. I didn't expect Shaun to put 2006 roster together however, I expecteding more 3rd party type support for this. I said I wasn't going to buy SI baseball game OOTP 7 but, I might have to as things are looking.

[voltaris]

Has anybody else had a problem with the game crashing to the desktop? I spent the time going through all the screens and I like the depth of this game. I started a game and was just watching PBP and in the sixth inning a player hit a homerun and the game crashed to the desktop. I am thinking it had to do with the program looking for a wmv file for the sound. It worked fine fine for the first homerun, but the game crashed after the second homerun. I have only played one actual game but the game crashed so I haven't really tried to continue playing this game.

[moriarty]

Has anybody else had a problem with the game crashing to the desktop? I spent the time going through all the screens and I like the depth of this game. I started a game and was just watching PBP and in the sixth inning a player hit a homerun and the game crashed to the desktop. I am thinking it had to do with the program looking for a wmv file for the sound. It worked fine fine for the first homerun, but the game crashed after the second homerun. I have only played one actual game but the game crashed so I haven't really tried to continue playing this game.

With the demo Shaun linked, I've had no issues w/ CTD. Sorry.

[PadresFan104]

I bought this on day one and played around with it and in fact really like it. But, I am quite surprised no one has put together a 2006 roster set for the gameand one doesn't look to becoming . I could do it myself, I guess if i had the skill or patience I suppose..................It's juts that it's been out for over a week or not haiving a current 2006 roster has really killed my enthusiasm for this one. I didn't think this would be a factor but I was wrong. I think it is because initial I am intereste in this season not 1897 or 1997 for that matter. That being said ,I know there are aton of people playing this in historical replay of years long past so I am in the minority. I didn't expect Shaun to put 2006 roster together however, I expecteding more 3rd party type support for this. I said I wasn't going to buy SI baseball game OOTP 7 but, I might have to as things are looking.

I expect to have a 2006 Roster on my site in the coming week or so. :)

Al

http://web.mac.com/sixwilsons/iWeb/PureSimMods/Main.html

[Galaril]

I expect to have a 2006 Roster on my site in the coming week or so. :)

Al

http://web.mac.com/sixwilsons/iWeb/PureSimMods/Main.html


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