Pitboss Civilization 4 -- RESTART!

[WVUFAN]

I've set up a Pitboss game, for those that are interested in it. It's considered an IP game (so it would be private), with 24 hour time limits on turns. What I need now is to find out if it works. :-)

So ... no one needs to download Pitboss, just connect to the game and play your turn.

Pitboss is a persistant PBEM server that allows you to play your turn and not have to wait on an emailed folder, and no one has to play in order -- so, come on anytime, play your turn and the next day, they'll be another turn to play. This makes for a MUCH faster game, and new players can come in (with permission from the group) and sub for missing/unavailable players at any time. I have 24 hour limits turned on, so if you don't play your turn in 24 hours, you're basically skipped. You continue to research, and continue to build if you have items in your queue, but you won't do anything else.

Large games can be played this way, since the turns will go after 24 hours regardless. What I need now is people to try this out and see if it works.

I'm looking for a maximum of 10 people to join.

How to join:

Go to your Civ 4 game, choose "Multiplayer" then "Direct IP", The game name is FOFC Dominion, and my IP is 24.239.76.92

Then choose your leader and play your turn. You can have email notifications sent to you when a new turn comes up if you want, but you don't have to. Simply log on every day and play the next turn. If there's someone else on at the same time as you, you can even chat with them, but again, this is in every way like a PBEM game, only you don't have to wait your turn. Give it a try.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- the password is:

fofc

[Barkeep49]

I hope I can still get in when I get home this afternoon from work, as this sounds like fun.

[WVUFAN]

You should be. I doubt if we'll get 10 players in by that time.

[Celeval]

I'm in.

[JeeberD]

Signed up and played my first turn.

Question...how do you chat? I saw Celeval and "Pittboss" (Eric) doing it, but I couldn't figure out how to do it myself...

[JeeberD]

Dola-

Nevermind, figured it out...

[saldana]

this is excellent...only question before i join is: what time does the clock run out?

[WVUFAN]

Right now, there's 23 hours left on it. The game gives you a clock timer right on the Civ 4 screen.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- but if there's an open Civ, people can join anytime, even after the first turn.

[WVUFAN]

double dola -- got 5 people playing so far. 5 spots left:

Louis XIV
Hatshepsut
Saladin
Alexander
Cyrus

[saldana]

this is sweet, thanks again

[saldana]

double dola -- got 4 people playing so far. 6 spots left:

Louis XIV
Hatshepsut
Saladin
Alexander
Cyrus


fixed it for you

[gstelmack]

Dola-

Nevermind, figured it out...

And you're not going to tell us!?!?!?!?!?!

Anyway, I'll check in tonight when I get a chance and will take a spot if there is one left. But I go home, eat dinner, give the kids baths, put the kids to bed, then I have an online gaming match at 8, so it'll be 9 eastern or so before I check in.

[Samdari]

Love this idea. Hope there are spots open when I can get on at 8 pm.

[saldana]

And you're not going to tell us!?!?!?!?!?!



click on the icon directy below you gold reserve in the upper left hand corner.

[Lonnie]

I'll try to get in this evening. I wanted for the first PBEM game to succeed, but we were hamped by delay after delay. This sounds like a great approach to it.

[Vince]

Cool, I'm in. I took over Louis and the French, and took my turn. I didn't save or anything, and left while it was still saying "Waiting for other players" -- the info is stored on PitBoss, right?

[Franklinnoble]

Crap... I'm guessing there's no way to talk thru a proxy?

[Vince]

That's weird, when I logged in, it seemed like WVU was talking to himself. I could see his chat, but no one else's.

[WVUFAN]

When you log in, there's a automated welcome message. I haven't been on in awhile. (been asleep)

[WVUFAN]

Crap... I'm guessing there's no way to talk thru a proxy?

You weren't able to log into the game?

[WVUFAN]

Cool, I'm in. I took over Louis and the French, and took my turn. I didn't save or anything, and left while it was still saying "Waiting for other players" -- the info is stored on PitBoss, right?

Yes. All saves are stored by PitBoss.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- only 3 Civs left open:

Saladin
Alexander
Cyrus

[Runtheball]

I'm in as Egypt

[Vince]

When you log in, there's a automated welcome message. I haven't been on in awhile. (been asleep)
Yeah, but I could see your responses to questions asked by someone else (most likely from before I logged on)...but not those questions.

[Franklinnoble]

You weren't able to log into the game?

I won't be able to until I get home from work, and at the rate it's going, it'll be full up by then...

[WVUFAN]

I won't be able to until I get home from work, and at the rate it's going, it'll be full up by then...

Doubtful. There'll probably be room. If there isn't, and there's enough people interested, I can start a second Pitboss game.

To the active players -- make sure you have set a password when you entered the game for the first time. Otherwise, anyone can log in and play as you.

[WVUFAN]

Yeah, but I could see your responses to questions asked by someone else (most likely from before I logged on)...but not those questions.

Yeah, it'll do that when I respond from Pitboss -- it saves the "announcements" I put out for all the players until the end of the turn.

[saldana]

WVU, what does being the Pitboss entail?

was there a mod you have to download, and is your computer the persistant server, therfore having to be running the game at all times?

just wondering....depending on the details, i might be able to set a game up on my desktop

[WVUFAN]

WVU, what does being the Pitboss entail?

was there a mod you have to download, and is your computer the persistant server, therfore having to be running the game at all times?

just wondering....depending on the details, i might be able to set a game up on my desktop

It's actually really easy. Download the Pitboss client (it's on the Firaxis site -- I'll see if I can't get the link for you if you want, and upzip it into your Civ4 Folder. Insert your original CD, and start up the Pitboss.exe file. The program is made and released by Firaxis, so it's completely compatable.

You actually set up the game from the Pitboss screen, from entering in your SMTP server info to how the game is set up. If you have an existing PBEM game, you can convert it to Pitboss, but otherwise, just follow the instructions on the screen.

The Pitboss file has to remain open at all times, so your CPU in essense becomes the server the game is hosted on, but it's a miniscule file, so for me it's no problem.

Like i said, if you're interested, I can get you the file. If I can set it up, anyone can.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- the file is below:

hxxp://63.236.94.185/2kgames/civ4/civ4pitboss.php (http://63.236.94.185/2kgames/civ4/civ4pitboss.php)

Info about Pitboss:

hxxp://www.2kgames.com/civ4/pitboss.htm (http://www.2kgames.com/civ4/pitboss.htm)

[gstelmack]

In as the Persians. Alexander and Saladin look like the only ones left.

[Samdari]

In as the Persians. Alexander and Saladin look like the only ones left.

I took Alexander.

[WVUFAN]

Saladin seems to be the last one. One more and we hit the next turn automatically.

[saldana]

retrospectively, i probably should have taken saladin


get it....saldana....saladin


i got nothin.

[Franklinnoble]

In as Saladin...

This should be interesting... my first time playing as him.

[WVUFAN]

And we're full.

Turn 2 is now ready to be played. I've also figured out how to edit things, so now there should be email reminders sent if you have your settings set correctly -- click ALT-D and you can set the game to send you reminders of new turns.

[WVUFAN]

So far with only one or two exceptions, everyone is interested in restarting, so that's what we're gonna do.

Now we're gonna be set for 12 players, so if there's other people that are interested, please sign up, as there will be 3 more slots available now.

EVERYONE WILL NEED TO RETAKE A CIVILIZATION.

To do so:

Open Civ4
Click "Multiplayer"
Click "Direct IP game"
Fill in the correct info. The IP for the game is 24.239.76.92.
The name for the new game is "FOFC Global"
Enter a password for the game.
Password is -- fofc
Select your Civ and enjoy!

So, if you haven't tried this out, take your civ. If you're in the old game, take a new civ.

Enjoy!

[JeeberD]

Sorry for not answering your PM, Eric. From your last post I thought that you had fixed the issues...

[WVUFAN]

Sorry for not answering your PM, Eric. From your last post I thought that you had fixed the issues...

I had thought I had fixed the mail issue, but this way we're expanding the game and ensuring it would work.

[saldana]

did anyone else get kicked out of the game. i got terminated and cant reconnect. when i try to get back it, the window starts going through the different players, connecting to each one, and when it gets to "Sharon", i get an error that says i cant connect to Sharon because his firewall is not configured properly, and i get dropped back to the connection screen.

[WVUFAN]

did anyone else get kicked out of the game. i got terminated and cant reconnect. when i try to get back it, the window starts going through the different players, connecting to each one, and when it gets to "Sharon", i get an error that says i cant connect to Sharon because his firewall is not configured properly, and i get dropped back to the connection screen.

Lemme check on it.

[WVUFAN]

Try it now, Saldana.

[saldana]

seems to be working fine, thanks

[saldana]

btw to everyone, a quick key to the chat window is just to hit TAB, and it pops up....instead of clicking the icon by your gold bank

[Celeval]

FranklinNoble took my civ. :(

I'm in, tho.

[Samdari]

I get to the where it is finished loading and the game just hangs. I had no trouble last night. Anyone else have this?

[Celeval]

It caught up.

[WVUFAN]

I would just like to say before I die on the second turn (damn you, Celeval -- DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!) that the Japanese will rise again!!

:-)

[Samdari]

did anyone else get kicked out of the game. i got terminated and cant reconnect. when i try to get back it, the window starts going through the different players, connecting to each one, and when it gets to "Sharon", i get an error that says i cant connect to Sharon because his firewall is not configured properly, and i get dropped back to the connection screen.

I am now getting this message with saldana having the firewall problem.

[WVUFAN]

I get to the where it is finished loading and the game just hangs. I had no trouble last night. Anyone else have this?

You should be able to log in now. There was a Sync error earlier, but that's been fixed.

[Samdari]

You should be able to log in now. There was a Sync error earlier, but that's been fixed.

This started about 5 minutes ago. Its now hanging on Celeval.

Odd, I had no problems last night.

[saldana]

try now wvu

[Celeval]

REQUEST FOR RE-RESTART

The original placement sucks. My two units are immediately next to WVUFan's already-built city, with nowhere else to go. For me? Not a problem. For WVUFan? A lot of trouble. Sucky way to start.

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eceleval/civ-1.PNG

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eceleval/civ-2.PNG

[Celeval]

Hehe... sorry, WVU. Sucky start, though, and I wouldn't mind restarting.

[Franklinnoble]

FranklinNoble took my civ. :(

I'm in, tho.

Sorry, dude... I didn't realize anyone had dibs...

[WVUFAN]

We won't restart just because I got unlucky. Sometimes the game just happens that way. :-) People have been inconvenienced enough already.

Excellent move in eliminating me as soon as possible though, Celeval. It's what I would do. :)

[Franklinnoble]

Uh... is the game set to re-spawn if you get whacked that early?

[WVUFAN]

Uh... is the game set to re-spawn if you get whacked that early?

Nope. It'll be the end of the game for me. It's all good, though, as I said, sometimes it just works out that way.

[Samdari]

Nope. It'll be the end of the game for me. It's all good, though, as I said, sometimes it just works out that way.

But then you are hosting the server till the end of time? Can you host another one, or is your PitBoss program dedicated to this?

[Franklinnoble]

We won't restart just because I got unlucky. Sometimes the game just happens that way. :-) People have been inconvenienced enough already.

Excellent move in eliminating me as soon as possible though, Celeval. It's what I would do. :)

Dude... not cool. We should re-start. It's pretty weak having that sort of starting location.

[Runtheball]

Well there couldn't be a worse starting location, could there? I can't believe the game would allow that, and I've never had that happen in single player.

I'd have no problem restarting because of this, but I'd hope that a map that has huge land masses would avoid this kind of setup.

[WVUFAN]

But then you are hosting the server till the end of time? Can you host another one, or is your PitBoss program dedicated to this?

It's not a good idea to try and host two games from the same IP. I tried a test and it didn't turn out well.

Just because I get eliminated doesn't mean the game ends. It's really no big deal for me to host the game, and I have another PBEM game I'm active in.

Hell, if push comes to shove, I'll retire the Japs and grab an open Civ, since I think the only one that hasn't retaken their civ is Gstelmack, and I'm making sure there's a spot open for him.

[saldana]

i'm cool with a restart, i havent even founded my city yet. i agree that is shitty that the computer set it up that way. with all the trouble WVU is going through to host this, the least we can do is give him a chance to play

[Franklinnoble]

i'm cool with a restart, i havent even founded my city yet. i agree that is shitty that the computer set it up that way. with all the trouble WVU is going through to host this, the least we can do is give him a chance to play

Ditto. I don't think anyone disagrees with the need to restart.

[WVUFAN]

Ok, then.

I really appreciate you letting me restart this, given that you really don't have to. I do appreciate it.

We'll restart, then. This should be the last time, and I apologize for doing it. We'll do 12 players again. Retake your civs.

Game will be again FOFC Global, same IP, same info.

[WVUFAN]

The game has been restarted. Please log on and grab your civs ... again. :-)

Last time. I mean it this time. Barring any technical errors, we're not restarting again.

[Franklinnoble]

Ugh... Sharon just logged in and took Persia, and Bismark is right next door... not as bad as WVUFan and Celeval, but Germany will have nowhere to grow, and has a rotten spot.

[WVUFAN]

Ugh... Sharon just logged in and took Persia, and Bismark is right next door... not as bad as WVUFan and Celeval, but Germany will have nowhere to grow, and has a rotten spot.

Ack. It just may be the number of civs we have. I have the map this time as Balanced and Huge. I dunno what else I should do.

[Franklinnoble]

Well, Bismark is screwed... here's a screen shot:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5747/crap6vj.jpg

[Franklinnoble]

This peer-to-peer connection thingy... can that be turned off? I'm erroring out trying to connect to runtheball and saldana...

[WVUFAN]

Aside from lowering the number of civs, I don't know how to fix this. Is there a map with larger amounts of landmass I can use? Anyone have any suggestions?

[WVUFAN]

This peer-to-peer connection thingy... can that be turned off? I'm erroring out trying to connect to runtheball and saldana...

Nope. Are you and Sharon behind a firewall or proxy?

[Franklinnoble]

What kind of map are you using? I like the fractal maps.

We're not behind a firewall or anything... it's like I can connect fine, as long as certain other peers aren't connected before me.

Anyhow... I'd advise against anyone taking Bismark, if they can help it. That's a no-win scenario right there...

[WVUFAN]

I'm using the "Balanced" map. Same map I used in the first 10 player setup.

The second time I used Continents, but I figured there was too much ocean area, so I switched back.

[WVUFAN]

Anyhow... I'd advise against anyone taking Bismark, if they can help it. That's a no-win scenario right there...

It's rough and would be a challenge, but he hasn't settled, and can move south, so it's technically not a no-win. Certainly a challenge, though. I wonder if someone out there is so confident that they think they can take Germany to victory?

[Vince]

Hey, so I'm about to jump into the new game, and I notice there are different rulers. Anyone object to me not being the French (I sort of took them as a last resort option yesterday :))?

[Runtheball]

I'm using Zonealarm, but have given the program (and the packet-thingy) all available permissions. I'm sure the problem of connecting is not with me, as I've connected and chatted with several other players on each run of this game so far. In fact, I was connected and chatting before I went in and gave those progams all available permissions, so that step was apparently unnecessary.

[WVUFAN]

Hey, so I'm about to jump into the new game, and I notice there are different rulers. Anyone object to me not being the French (I sort of took them as a last resort option yesterday :))?

Take who you want. Wouldn't recommend the Germans, unless you want a real challenge.

[JeeberD]

Hey, so I'm about to jump into the new game, and I notice there are different rulers. Anyone object to me not being the French (I sort of took them as a last resort option yesterday :))?

I changed my empire's name, so I hope there's no problems with it...

[WVUFAN]

I changed my empire's name, so I hope there's no problems with it...

You always change your empire's name. It's cool.

How do you do that, btw? I want to make West Virginia a nation.

[saldana]

pick My Options on the main menu

[Franklinnoble]

In the options screen.

I might come up with a clever name for mine...

[WVUFAN]

And just like that, someone with some big ... aspirations took Germany. Kudos to whomever did that.

[Miller Time]

I picked up the Germans just as I was following the thread...then I continued to read down. ARGH!!! Should have read the whole thread first. Oh well, should be interesting to see how many turns I last.

[Vince]

Fear the Malinese, and our army of flat-tailed hooligans.

[WVUFAN]

I picked up the Germans just as I was following the thread...then I continued to read down. ARGH!!! Should have read the whole thread first. Oh well, should be interesting to see how many turns I last.

I can kick you from Germany, so you can pick another civ if you want, Miller. I don't want you to keep them if you're not comfortable.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- Germany has been retired from the game. It is ... no more.

EDIT: There are 3 Civs left. One spot is reserved for GStelmack, if he chooses to play. The other three -- come and take 'em! Lonnie, Barkeep -- if you are interested, come on and join us. One turn a day -- minimum! Ceneval, Samdari, still have places for you two.

Huayna Capac -- TAKEN
Napoleon -- TAKEN
Qin Shi Huang -- TAKEN
Montezuma

[Franklinnoble]

I think that's probably for the best. That would have ended up just being an early game rush to who can build the first warrior, and it would have taken a lot of fun out of it.

[Franklinnoble]

I've changed my Civ name to "California."

Now if I could only find an Arnold Schwarzenegger leaderhead mod...

[saldana]

i'm out til about 10:30, so i will get my 2nd turn in as soon as i come home from work, assuming its moved up by then

[WVUFAN]

Reminder -- make sure you click "End Turn" when you're done. You should see something that says "Waiting on other civilizations ...". Otherwise the system doesn't have you down for your turn being over.

Example: I know runtheball has been on a few times, but you never ended your turn. :-) I did the exact same thing on this turn before i caught it, so I wanted to give a heads-up.

Remember, the sooner everyone takes their turn, the sooner the new turn pops up.

[gstelmack]

I grabbed the Incans and renamed them. Looked like the Aztecs were the only one still open.

[WVUFAN]

Ok, I'm at work, so someone fill in the rest of the players for me:

Here's the list of active players in this game:

WVUFan
Vince
Runtheball
Saldana
JeeberD
FranklinNobel
Sharon
Miller Time
GStalmack
??

[Runtheball]

Reminder -- make sure you click "End Turn" when you're done. You should see something that says "Waiting on other civilizations ...". Otherwise the system doesn't have you down for your turn being over.

Example: I know runtheball has been on a few times, but you never ended your turn. :-) I did the exact same thing on this turn before i caught it, so I wanted to give a heads-up.

Remember, the sooner everyone takes their turn, the sooner the new turn pops up.

Now that's weird, cause I'm positive I ended my turn. Well, I'm going to log back on now and will fix it, but ... I'm sure I ended my turn so I hope there isn't some glitch. And if I'm wrong I'm sorry I held things up.

[WVUFAN]

Now that's weird, cause I'm positive I ended my turn. Well, I'm going to log back on now and will fix it, but ... I'm sure I ended my turn so I hope there isn't some glitch. And if I'm wrong I'm sorry I held things up.

There should be still a civ open, so you didn't hold anything up until that civ gets taken.

EDIT: In the Pitboss admin page, it lets us know when someone's turn is ended. I'm just going by that. It could be wrong, and if it is, sorry. :-)

[Runtheball]

You were right. I screwed up. Sorry about that.
I believe that the little star beside our names in the lower right corner is also an indication of who has finished their turn.
Glad to see I didn't cause a delay, as the Aztecs are still available.

[WVUFAN]

Glad to see I didn't cause a delay, as the Aztecs are still available.

Who took the Chinese?

[Celeval]

I'm in as Monte.

[Celeval]

And we're into Turn 2. :-D

[WVUFAN]

And we're into Turn 2. :-D

Who took the Chinese? (I'm at work and can't see the admin page)

[Lonnie]

Well damn, missed it again. By minutes too. You guys have fun.

[saldana]

let me know if i am holding things up, i can call my wife and get her to take my turn if i am the only one still on turn 2, since most of you all should be at home now

[WVUFAN]

let me know if i am holding things up, i can call my wife and get her to take my turn if i am the only one still on turn 2, since most of you all should be at home now

I don't get home until 2 am, so if anyone is gonna hold things up, it'll be me.

[Samdari]

Who took the Chinese? (I'm at work and can't see the admin page)

I did. I had been the Greeks in previous games, but did not see them, so I just took whatever was available.

[WVUFAN]

I did. I had been the Greeks in previous games, but did not see them, so I just took whatever was available.

Awesome. Welcome back.

[jbmagic]

WVUFAN

Another great idea for pitboss is do a succession game.

You guys just pick one civ you agree on and play against the ai CIVS.

Then each person on your team take 20 turns per person all sharing the same Civ.

It can bring up great discussions and strategy here.

[Vince]

Hrm. It's telling me that I have the wrong password when I try to log in to play turn number two. I know what password I set it up with (which isn't working), but just in case, I've run through every single other password I could have possibly used, and I'm getting nothing. Any ideas?

[WVUFAN]

Hrm. It's telling me that I have the wrong password when I try to log in to play turn number two. I know what password I set it up with (which isn't working), but just in case, I've run through every single other password I could have possibly used, and I'm getting nothing. Any ideas?

I don't have access to passwords. The only thing I could do when I get home is to kick you from the game, then you could rejoin with a new password.

Keep trying, and remember they're case-sensitive. If you can't get on tomorrow, lemme know and we'll kick and reset you.

[Vince]

WVU -- if you don't mind, can you just kick me, and I'll try again? Since we're both here, that might expedite the process.

[WVUFAN]

WVU -- if you don't mind, can you just kick me, and I'll try again? Since we're both here, that might expedite the process.

I'm at work, so I don't have access. :-( I won't get home until 2 am EST.

[Vince]

Ah. No worries...should be about the time I get out of X-3 :)

[WVUFAN]

Ah. No worries...should be about the time I get out of X-3 :)

I'll send you a PM when it's done. That way you should be able to retake the civ pretty quickly.

[WVUFAN]

WVUFAN

Another great idea for pitboss is do a succession game.

You guys just pick one civ you agree on and play against the ai CIVS.

Then each person on your team take 20 turns per person all sharing the same Civ.

It can bring up great discussions and strategy here.

That's a great idea. We might try that after this game.

[JeeberD]

Hrm. It's telling me that I have the wrong password when I try to log in to play turn number two. I know what password I set it up with (which isn't working), but just in case, I've run through every single other password I could have possibly used, and I'm getting nothing. Any ideas?

Are you talking about the first password or the second one? The password on the main page is "fofc" and then it will ask for your personal password when you try to open your civ...

[Franklinnoble]

Just FYI - I'm not sure the e-mail notification is working... I didn't get a notice when it was time to take another turn...

[Franklinnoble]

Jeebs is online now... and Sharon can't connect. There's some issue with the peer connection feature on this thing... we can't get online if anyone else is connected to the host.

[Samdari]

Jeebs is online now... and Sharon can't connect. There's some issue with the peer connection feature on this thing... we can't get online if anyone else is connected to the host.

You guys must have something funky going on there - this issue raises its head with you guys (we can't connect if you're on, you can't connect if we are). But there were three of us (other than you) on simultaneously this afternoon.

Are you guys playing from the same IP? Wonder if that could screw things up somehow.

[JeeberD]

I didn't get an e-mail notification either. I just checked in my spam and it wasn't there either...

I was getting warning that I couldn't connect, but as soon as I hit "OK" it let me take my turn. Did it a couple of times to me...

*shurg*

[WVUFAN]

I didn't get an e-mail notification either. I just checked in my spam and it wasn't there either...

I was getting warning that I couldn't connect, but as soon as I hit "OK" it let me take my turn. Did it a couple of times to me...

*shurg*

I've already posted the peer/peer issue on the tech forum, and I'll find out what's up with the turn notification as soon as I get home.

[saldana]

i'm done with turn 2

[Vince]

Are you talking about the first password or the second one? The password on the main page is "fofc" and then it will ask for your personal password when you try to open your civ...

:o

Don't mind me...I'm just the idiot in the corner...

...WVU, I figured it out (well, Jeebs figured out that I'm a moron), no worries on booting me.

[WVUFAN]

Vince: cool beans. :-)

In regards to the email notified, I have just been informed that Pitboss, even though it has the option in the program, "has yet to implement this feature in this beta version.".

Luckily some intelligent people over in the Civ techie forum has developed an app that does it. As soon as I get home, I'll test it out.

So fear not, we'll get email notifications yet. :-)

[Franklinnoble]

You guys must have something funky going on there - this issue raises its head with you guys (we can't connect if you're on, you can't connect if we are). But there were three of us (other than you) on simultaneously this afternoon.

Are you guys playing from the same IP? Wonder if that could screw things up somehow.

We're sharing an internet connnection, but I don't think that's the problem.

The issue happens even if it's just one of us online at a time.

[WVUFAN]

Ok, I have the mod app for turn notifications set up, and I've checked it on my own email. It works.

What I need for everyone who wants notification is for you to either post here or PM me the email address that you want to be notified on. It has to be logged from the app.

As soon as I have it, you'l be added to the list. This is entirely your choice -- if you don't want email turn notifications, you don't have to be notified.

Anyway, PM or email me your email address if you want to be added to the reminder list.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- so, the turn reset around 8:30 PM last night. It's 2 AM, 6 hours later, and we're only waiting on a single person till the next turn, out of 11 players. That's pretty doggone good.

[Samdari]

We're sharing an internet connnection, but I don't think that's the problem.

The issue happens even if it's just one of us online at a time.

I am wondering if the pitboss program has trouble with two of the participants in a game being from the same IP (especially with ICS). Then it wouldn't matter if you were on at the same time or not. Just trying to think through the problem, and WVUFAN said that the program had trouble running two games at the same time (which it shouldn't) and I notice that all of the sync problems mentioned so far either have been you guys having trouble, or others gagging when syncing with you.

[JeeberD]

You know my e-mail, Eric. Feel free to use it... :)

[gstelmack]

Well, I did my turn this morning, and the host seemed to stop responding. I'll double-check in a bit to see if it will actually let me do turn 3...

[gstelmack]

Well, I did my turn this morning, and the host seemed to stop responding. I'll double-check in a bit to see if it will actually let me do turn 3...

Okay, turn 3 is definitely rolling. What's weird is when I was on and it flipped turns, it wouldn't highlight any of my guys, the clock wasn't ticking, etc, but it said it was my turn. I tried moving a guy and nothing happened.

Log back in a bit ago (maybe an hour or so later) and the clock is moving and my guy executed my orders. Just looks like you need to be patient on a turn flop.

[WVUFAN]

Jeeber, I had already added you. You should have received a turn notification when it switched this morning. Let me know if you didn't.

For everyone who PM'ed me, you've been added, and you'll begin getting notifications beginning next turn.

If anyone has Quotes or anything to add to the emails, let me know, as it has the ability to add quotes or phrases when it's sent out. This turn's quote is from the French, which stated very clearly "Viva La Japanese!".

Because we all know the Japanese rule.

[WVUFAN]

Okay, turn 3 is definitely rolling. What's weird is when I was on and it flipped turns, it wouldn't highlight any of my guys, the clock wasn't ticking, etc, but it said it was my turn. I tried moving a guy and nothing happened.

Log back in a bit ago (maybe an hour or so later) and the clock is moving and my guy executed my orders. Just looks like you need to be patient on a turn flop.

That seems to be a part of Pitboss. Occasionally, it does what it calls a "grace period" of between 15 minutes to an hour when everyone does their turn or when the 24 hour clock expires. I dunno who they're giving the grace period to if everyone's turn is up, and it doesn't seem to do that every turn, but it does happen. I appreciate your patience, Gtelmack and everyone.

Despite all of the stuff that's happened, that's still 2 turns in less than a day. Pretty good stuff.

[Franklinnoble]

Ok... oddly enough, Sharon was able to connect to peer "Saldana" now, but I cannot... even after she disconnects. Weird.

Oh, an my e-mail is franklin.brown AT gmail.com ... sign me up for alerts. :D

[Franklinnoble]

Also... she's still seeing a German scout and settler wandering around...

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2921/stillthere6vj.jpg

[Runtheball]

Can't connect to host. Keeps timing-out.
This happened repeatedly between 1:05 and 1:20 EST

[Miller Time]

Same thing is happening on my end.

[Vince]

And Vince makes three.

[gstelmack]

gstelmack AT nc.rr.com

And I can't connect right now either.

[Franklinnoble]

Me too... I'm guessing Eric's machine is down.

[WVUFAN]

Power outage. It's back up now. Sorry.

Seems that when I retired Germany, the AI took over. :-(. It's not supposed to do that.

EDIT: Had to reset Pitboss. NOW it's up and ready. :-)

[Franklinnoble]

Cool... I got right in that time.

Well, the German settler is just wandering around. By the time it settles, Sharon will have a warrior, and it will be an easy kill.

[WVUFAN]

Cool... I got right in that time.

Well, the German settler is just wandering around. By the time it settles, Sharon will have a warrior, and it will be an easy kill.

Tell Sharon I'm sorry about that -- when I set the game for "Take over AI" -- which I have to do in order to reset players for password issues -- when someone retires, instead of eliminating the Civ, it set it as an AI civ. It was either give up the option of resetting people who have forgotton passwords, or this.

[Vince]

And the next turn has started now that I took my turn.

[WVUFAN]

Runtheball: I typed your email address in incorrectly (got a return notice, and realized I put an extra "j" in your addy), so I'll fix that when I get home. You won't get a notification email this turn because of that.

Everyone else should have gotten an email already about the new turn. Lemme know if you get one.

[JeeberD]

Notification seems to be working fine. Thanks, Eric!

[gstelmack]

Everyone else should have gotten an email already about the new turn. Lemme know if you get one.

Worked great for me.

Some Pitboss questions: how much CPU is it taking up? And it was easy to restart? I'd consider switching Raging Barbarians over to Pitboss, if it was okay with me doing some VS.NET stuff occasionally, and didn't mind going down for an hour or two while I played Oblivion.

[WVUFAN]

Worked great for me.

Some Pitboss questions: how much CPU is it taking up? And it was easy to restart? I'd consider switching Raging Barbarians over to Pitboss, if it was okay with me doing some VS.NET stuff occasionally, and didn't mind going down for an hour or two while I played Oblivion.

I have a 2.4 mhz P4 with less than a gig of memory, and I'm able to run multiple things with no problem. Plus it's really easy to set up.

I can send you the email notification program if you like. That runs concurrently with Pitboss. Both mimimize to your tray when not in use.

You can close it down anytime. It'll put a save file on your desktop (or whereever), so save it before shutting it down and then start it up like any other program. I honestly rarely notice it unless I'm actually on it... and it doesn't feel like anything else I do on the computer is affected by it.

You do have to have .NET extentions on your CPU for it to work, though.

[Franklinnoble]

Yeah, the Germans have finally settled. Now it's a race to see who can pop out a warrior first...

Oh, and the e-mail notification is working for me. Could you add Sharon, too? sharon.brown AT gmail.com

Thanks!

[Samdari]

it's a race to see who can pop out a warrior first...

I'll bet on the female...

[WVUFAN]

Yeah, the Germans have finally settled. Now it's a race to see who can pop out a warrior first...

Oh, and the e-mail notification is working for me. Could you add Sharon, too? sharon.brown AT gmail.com

Thanks!

I have another solution for this -- everyone let me know what you think. I will take control of the Germans. I will research NOTHING. Build NOTHING. Sharon can build the warrior and come over and kill them, and I won't stop it. It's a backhanded method of eliminating the civ, but again, Sharon shouldn't have to be in a race like this, since it's not fair to her.

The only thing I would ask is for her to raze the city, not conquer it. That way it remains fairer -- she'll get bonus points for destroying a civ, but that's to be expected.

Sound ok?

[Miller Time]

That solution works for me.

[JeeberD]

Peachy

[WVUFAN]

I sent out a test email turn notification to the whole group, so if you have an extra turn notification for 3880 BC, that's the reason.

Anyway, new turn is up and ready to go.

[Franklinnoble]

I think that's a good final solution to the German problem.

;)

[Vince]

I think that's a good final solution to the German problem.

;)

Beautiful.

[WVUFAN]

EDITED to make sense:

At the time of this writing, 9:37 AM EST, the following people have taken their turn (3790 BC):

Me
GStelmack
Miller Time

My CPU rebooted itself after checking for windows updates, so check and make sure you've taken your turn. It autosaves at the beginning of each turn, but not again (automatically) until the NEXT round The last person who took their turn last round may have had their turn erased for this round, so check just in case.

[wade moore]

Moved this to the Dynasty section at WVUFan's request.

[Runtheball]

EDITED to make sense:

At the time of this writing, 9:37 AM EST, the following people have taken their turn (3790 BC):

Me
GStelmack
Miller Time

My CPU rebooted itself after checking for windows updates, so check and make sure you've taken your turn. It autosaves at the beginning of each turn, but not again (automatically) until the NEXT round The last person who took their turn last round may have had their turn erased for this round, so check just in case.

I thought something was screwy. I was certain I made my move for this turn early on Monday. I checked back late Monday and saw that the game was waiting on both me and Jeeber. I'm guessing Jeeber already took his turn and is waiting for the email to tell him the next turn is ready, but since the CPU rebooted he actually has NOT made his turn.

This should have been posted as an email.
edit: JeeberD re-took his turn (my suspicions above were correct) with about 1 hour remaining on the clock. We're back in business!

[WVUFAN]

No, you're right -- I should have emailed everyone about this. If it happens again, I will post and email.

[saldana]

anyone else unable to connect to the server this afternoon? i kept timing out and not getting in.

[WVUFAN]

It's working now.

[saldana]

i'll play my turn when i get home tonight then. sorry if i am holding things up.

[WVUFAN]

I doubt you are. Remember, the 24 hour clock is there for a reason. We're getting a minimum of a turn a day, which is pretty good in comparison to most leagues. I wouldn't worry about holding things up.

If anyone is holding things up, it's me and my stupid computer losing connection. I'm trying to do some things that'll fix that, so my apologies.

[Franklinnoble]

Actually, I was the last one to take the turn today... can't connect from work, and didn't get home until late.

[WVUFAN]

After a very short down-time, the game is back online. So take your turn if you weren't able to in the past hour.

[Franklinnoble]

FYI - Sharon whacked Bismark. Doesn't appear to have boosted her score any or anything.

[WVUFAN]

So Germany's gone, eh?

Awesome. :-)

[Lonnie]

Was wondering where this post went. I want to keep tabs to see how it progresses.

[WVUFAN]

We're at 3700. We're averaging a little over a turn a day, and Germany has already been eliminated. Things are moving fairly smoothly, and the email turn notification is working.

So far, despite my CPU dying a few times, it's going fine as far as I'm concerned.

So what does everyone else think?

[JeeberD]

While you're here, Eric...

I'm trying to set up our PBEM as a Pitboss as we speak. But how in the heck do I find out my SMTP info? I entered in my IP there but when I try to connect I'm not having any luck...

[WVUFAN]

While you're here, Eric...

I'm trying to set up our PBEM as a Pitboss as we speak. But how in the heck do I find out my SMTP info? I entered in my IP there but when I try to connect I'm not having any luck...

Don't add your SMTP in Pitboss -- it's in beta, and doesn't work. I can send you the turn notification program.

How you get it your SMTP settings? You have to access your POP3 settings. I dunno what it is from hotmail. It's usually smtp.SERVERNAME.com.

[JeeberD]

OK, so tell me what I'm doing wrong...

I start up the Pitboss.exe
I choose "None" for mod
I'll go ahead and leave all the SMTP stuff blank
Choose "Direct IP" for network
Choose "Load game" and select the last file you sent me
And then this screen comes up

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/JeeberD/pitboss.jpg

What do I have to do from there? If I try to connect it times out on me...

[WVUFAN]

As soon as I get home, I'll look and find out what needs to be added.

[JeeberD]

Cool, thanks...

[WVUFAN]

I've been told that as of now, you cannot convert PBEM games to Pitboss, but that several people are trying to make mods that will allow it.

They're also saying that when the Pitboss goes out of beta, this option will be available. :-(

[JeeberD]

OK. I'll take my turn and then send it on to Franky, then...

[Vince]

I just took my turn, which flipped it to the next turn. I took that one too.

I'm really enjoying this so far. Just out of curiousity, though...what happens if the time limit is reached for any given day?

[JeeberD]

Oh my, I spy some neighbors!

[WVUFAN]

Who do you see?

On a side note, I have decided to rename my capital city Nintendo, in honor of one of Japan's greatest exports.

My second city will be called Sega, but it will probably fail.

[WVUFAN]

I just took my turn, which flipped it to the next turn. I took that one too.

I'm really enjoying this so far. Just out of curiousity, though...what happens if the time limit is reached for any given day?

The civ continues to research what was already set, and build what's in the queue, but no units move and no new things not in a queue are built.

[WVUFAN]

Jeeber:

I found a mod that allows PBEM games to be converted to Pitboss:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=167669

Hope this is helpful.

[Samdari]

Unable to contact host.

[gstelmack]

Unable to contact host.

Me, too. I'll check back after the kids are in bed.

So far, I am REALLY enjoying this. Slow-paced enough for me to pay attention, but a nice clip of 1-2 turns a day to keep interest up.

[WVUFAN]

That means my internet's down. I'm at work; I'll be home at 2 am to check and reset. Sorry, guys.

[Celeval]

I'm enjoying this a good bit as well, to throw in my two cents. Lots of fun.

[WVUFAN]

The game is back up.

[WVUFAN]

dola --

I think I'm either on an island, or have a large mountain range that cuts me off from the rest of the world. I have a large area, it seems, all to myself, only accessable via boat.

I like it. Do the rest of you prefer to be segregated from the rest of the civs or do you like more room for expansion?

[Vince]

I haven't played much multiplayer yet, so I don't have a handle on what I prefer there. In solo play, I like to be cut off from the AI civs.

[Vince]

Our warrior roams the wilderness aimlessly, hoping the natives will point him in the right direction. Meanwhile, our commoners try to teach themselves which end of the pointy thing to stick the other guy with.

[Franklinnoble]

Is it down again? I can't even ping 24.239.76.92....

[WVUFAN]

Try it now. Was doing some work on the PC.

[WVUFAN]

Well, I think I'm in a good place. I'm at the end of a large pennisula, with a fair amount of space to work with, a nice river running through it, and it's got a mountain range protecting me from the other civs. So, it seems the only access the other civs will have to Japan will be through boats, and that's a good thing.

Has anyone made contact with other civs yet?

[Vince]

my capital city is protected by lots of Tundra. Which isn't exactly something that excites me.

[gstelmack]

I see you creeping around my borders Jeeber...

[saldana]

i havent seen or heard from anyone yet, and thats the way i prefer it....the british are a highly xenophobic people

[saldana]

wvu, looks like your internet is down at home again, i cant connect

[WVUFAN]

It's back up. Stupid cable internet. :(

[Runtheball]

I'm gonna toss out an idea here to pick up the pace a bit, just for the next few turns. Not suggesting we do this regularly, just right now since we all have only one or two units to move anyway, and turns take only a couple minutes. If we could all arrange to be online at the same time for even just a half hour, we could probably get through at least 5-10 turns, maybe more. If we had an hour, even better. I know there's little chance that 11 people can coordinate to be online at the same time, and if its not all 11 of us it won't work. But maybe if we could post the times we'd be available and willing to play, we'd find some overlap. Again, its not likely to work, but I want to give it a try.

I have a very flexible schedule, and can arrange to be online at virtually any time everyone else agrees upon. But I'll suggest friday, saturday, or sunday evening June 9, 10, 11 from 8pm to 1am EST.

[JeeberD]

Friday and Sunday evenings I'm working, and Saturday night I already have plans to go out...

Good times for me would be today, tomorrow, or Friday from say 8am to probably 5pm (central time)...

Mr Stelmack, sir, I thiink we should join forces and take over the WORLD!

Uhhh...did I just say that in front of everybody?

[gstelmack]

With kids and the like, I can sometimes check quickly in the morning before work (around 7-8 AM Eastern), but that'll go away once the turns start taking longer. Otherwise I'm usually checking between 8:30 and 10:00 PM Eastern; I'm putting the kids to bed before then, and getting ready for bed myself afterward.

Unless there's a playoff hockey game on involving the 'Canes. Then I'll check between periods or maybe commercials.

[gstelmack]

Mr Stelmack, sir, I thiink we should join forces and take over the WORLD!

That's my plan. If you'd like to come along for the ride and help out, I'd love the help. I'll even make sure there's a small plot of land left where the JeeberDians can have self-rule.

[Runtheball]

Well right away there is no overlap between JeeberD's and gstelmack's schedules.
Jeeber, is there any weeknight you could be available? I was guessing that 9-12 pm eastern might be the best time frame for everyone, as even the west coast folks would be home from work by that time. Unless they work nights.

[Samdari]

I'm gonna toss out an idea here to pick up the pace a bit, just for the next few turns. Not suggesting we do this regularly, just right now since we all have only one or two units to move anyway, and turns take only a couple minutes. If we could all arrange to be online at the same time for even just a half hour, we could probably get through at least 5-10 turns, maybe more. If we had an hour, even better. I know there's little chance that 11 people can coordinate to be online at the same time, and if its not all 11 of us it won't work. But maybe if we could post the times we'd be available and willing to play, we'd find some overlap. Again, its not likely to work, but I want to give it a try.

I have a very flexible schedule, and can arrange to be online at virtually any time everyone else agrees upon. But I'll suggest friday, saturday, or sunday evening June 9, 10, 11 from 8pm to 1am EST.

My wife is having a baby tomorrow. I am probably going to run the clock out Thurs, Fri and Saturday, perhaps taking turns again by Sunday afternoon.

[Runtheball]

Congratulations on the new baby!!! My only kid was born 10 months ago; the memories are still very fresh. What an exciting time! Enjoy!

[JeeberD]

Goddamn motherfucking barbarian panthers... :mad:

[Celeval]

Muahaha.

I mean, uh, hi.

[WVUFAN]

CONGRATULATIONS, Samdari!!

[gstelmack]

Goddamn motherfucking barbarian panthers... :mad:

Woohoo, free experience for me! (if I can get my warrior up there before the panther heals from his 0.2 strength)

BTW, I did my turn 90 minutes ago (right at the 19:02 mark left in the turn) and it still says "Waiting for players" despite showing everyone as having taken their turn.

[WVUFAN]

Everyone has a star next to their name?

[JeeberD]

Samdari hasn't gone yet...

[WVUFAN]

Yeah, he has a really good reason for not taking his turn. :-)

[Samdari]

Yeah, he has a really good reason for not taking his turn. :-)

Not till tomorrow :).

And I'll probably check in the morning before we go, just in case.

And oh yeah, what Jeeber said :mad:

[WVUFAN]

Anyone know if it's possible to change the name of your ruler? I want to rename mine Hayabusa, after the greatest wrestler in the world!

Better than Starman .. he sucks.

[Franklinnoble]

I think it's possible in your options menu...

[Runtheball]

Anyone know if it's possible to change the name of your ruler? I want to rename mine Hayabusa, after the greatest wrestler in the world!

Better than Starman .. he sucks.

ALT-D to access options

[WVUFAN]

... and here comes some Barbarian Lions. Woot!

[gstelmack]

Tried to do mine before I went in to work this morning (around 7:45 Eastern or so) and could not connect to the host.

[JeeberD]

Yup, trying to connect right now with no luck...

[WVUFAN]

Should be up and ready to go now.

[WVUFAN]

dola -- NOW it should be ready to go again. :-)

[WVUFAN]

And I see Celeval through the impassible peaks that cut off the Japanese Empire from everyone else.

[WVUFAN]

I have a new tool that provides an RSS Feed you can put right on your browser that tells you how much time is left in a turn and who has taken their turn. Is this a service you guys (and gal) might be interested in?

[Runtheball]

Found a little village and entered, hoping to learn the secrets of the universe. All I learned was how much they didn't like visitors! So we killed them!

"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies; see them driven before you; and to hear the lamentation of their women."

[Vince]

Sorry guys, my dad's been in the hospital the last three nights, and I've been either there or at my parents' house taking care of my lil' sis. He's ok now, so I should be back on track to keep turns flowing again.

[Vince]

I have a new tool that provides an RSS Feed you can put right on your browser that tells you how much time is left in a turn and who has taken their turn. Is this a service you guys (and gal) might be interested in?

I have no experience whatsoever with RSS Feeds, but it sounds like a pretty cool thing.

[WVUFAN]

Sorry guys, my dad's been in the hospital the last three nights, and I've been either there or at my parents' house taking care of my lil' sis. He's ok now, so I should be back on track to keep turns flowing again.

Nothing to be sorry about. Hope your Dad's ok.

[Franklinnoble]

Something seems broken. I can't connect.

[WVUFAN]

It's back up.

[Franklinnoble]

The intrepid Californian scouting party continues to stumble through the wilderness, when they encounter a stench like nothing they've ever known.

A pale orange hue hangs over the landscape of what appears to be a primitive band of ape-like beings... They introduce their leader, the Great Big Rude Despot, who our scout refers to by the acronym "G.B.R.D"

When word of this encounter reaches the fearless Governor of California, he can only scratch his head and wonder, "What sort of foul beast is this 'Gee-Ber-Dee', and should we consider it a threat?"

[Runtheball]

It's back up.

It's back down.
(Between 8 and 10 a.m. EST, still unable to connect)

[gstelmack]

10:57 AM Eastern, still down.

[WVUFAN]

Sorry about that. While I was asleep one of the cats stepped on the top "pause" button on my cable modem. True story.

It's back on now and the clock is back up to 24 hours to give everyone a chance to take their turn.

[Runtheball]

It's actually really easy. Download the Pitboss client (it's on the Firaxis site -- I'll see if I can't get the link for you if you want, and upzip it into your Civ4 Folder. Insert your original CD, and start up the Pitboss.exe file. The program is made and released by Firaxis, so it's completely compatable.

You actually set up the game from the Pitboss screen, from entering in your SMTP server info to how the game is set up. If you have an existing PBEM game, you can convert it to Pitboss, but otherwise, just follow the instructions on the screen.

The Pitboss file has to remain open at all times, so your CPU in essense becomes the server the game is hosted on, but it's a miniscule file, so for me it's no problem.

Like i said, if you're interested, I can get you the file. If I can set it up, anyone can.

Eric,
I've downloaded the pitboss.exe and put it in the CIV4 folder, but when I try to run it it says some python (blah blah).dll file is missing. Is it necessary to download anything besides pitboss to get pitboss to run (like SDK)? I have the game on full install and the CD in the drive.

[JeeberD]

I had that issue, and I'm trying to remember how I fixed it...

I'm PRETTY sure that it was because I didn't have the Pitboss .exe in the Civ4 folder. Have you run a google search on the file? I think that's how I figured out the problem...

[Runtheball]

I do have pitboss in the Civ4 folder. In fact I've deleted it and re-installed it there several times now. I put the zip file there and unzip it into that directory just to be sure. I ran a google search and found only 2 references to that file...one was a guy asking the same question as me (with no respones) and another is to a very long thread where the question was asked and the answer was 'put pitboss in your civ4 folder'.

[JeeberD]

I'm pretty sure that solution worked for me, I'm not sure why you're having issues... :(

[JeeberD]

Dola-

You're certain it's in the Civ4 folder and not just in the Firaxis folder?

[Runtheball]

yeah, There is no Firaxis folder.
Found one more thread where the guy claims to have fixed the problem by reformatting his HD and re-installing.
I think I'll just forget about ever hosting via pitboss. Not worth that much trouble.

[Celeval]

And I see Celeval through the impassible peaks that cut off the Japanese Empire from everyone else.

Are you quite sure about the impassable bit? :-D

BTW... anyone who wants to communicate with me, can PM me here, IM me, or email me at kdonnelly [a] enterpulse o com

[WVUFAN]

Eric,
I've downloaded the pitboss.exe and put it in the CIV4 folder, but when I try to run it it says some python (blah blah).dll file is missing. Is it necessary to download anything besides pitboss to get pitboss to run (like SDK)? I have the game on full install and the CD in the drive.

I'm assuming you're getting this message:

"This application has failed to start because boost_python-vc71-mt-1_32.dll was not found."

And you've said that you have Pitboss.exe in the same folder as your Civ4.exe file, right? A couple of questions:

- Do you have a modded Civ4.exe file?
- Do you have .Net extensions installed?
- You said there wasn't a Firaxis folder on your desktop .. how do you have yours set up? The default setup is Firaxis/Civilization4/. That very well may be the trigger right there.

I'm doing some checking for you. It's supposed to be easy. :(

[WVUFAN]

Are you quite sure about the impassable bit? :-D

BTW... anyone who wants to communicate with me, can PM me here, IM me, or email me at kdonnelly [a] enterpulse o com

How'd you get over? I don't see a way.

This, I must investigate. :-)

[Runtheball]

I'm assuming you're getting this message:

"This application has failed to start because boost_python-vc71-mt-1_32.dll was not found."

And you've said that you have Pitboss.exe in the same folder as your Civ4.exe file, right? A couple of questions:

- Do you have a modded Civ4.exe file?
- Do you have .Net extensions installed?
- You said there wasn't a Firaxis folder on your desktop .. how do you have yours set up? The default setup is Firaxis/Civilization4/. That very well may be the trigger right there.

I'm doing some checking for you. It's supposed to be easy. :(

That is the exact error message I'm getting.
I don't have any mods for Civ4.
I don't have .net installed (not to my knowledge anyway)
I believe the install defaulted to "my documents/my games/Sid Meier's Civ 4"; at least I don't think I would have selected that location myself...I have my own "games" folder on the C drive.

I recall reading something a long time ago about .net, that it was a very insecure and subject to hacking. I don't recall the details, and know very little about network security, but I've always avoided installing it. Can anyone enlighten me about the security aspect of the .net thing?

[WVUFAN]

That is the exact error message I'm getting.
I don't have any mods for Civ4.
I don't have .net installed (not to my knowledge anyway)
I believe the install defaulted to "my documents/my games/Sid Meier's Civ 4"; at least I don't think I would have selected that location myself...I have my own "games" folder on the C drive.

I recall reading something a long time ago about .net, that it was a very insecure and subject to hacking. I don't recall the details, and know very little about network security, but I've always avoided installing it. Can anyone enlighten me about the security aspect of the .net thing?

Ahhh ... there's the problem.

Civ4 installs in two places on your CPU -- the save files go to My Documents, the main files go to Program Files.

There actually should be a Firaxis folder. Go to My Computer, then click on Program Files, and look for "Firaxis Games". Install Pitboss there, and try to run it from there.

Don't worry about .Net -- that's only needed for the turn notification. I have to run turn notification because I use GMail, which has a wierd port it uses for SMTP.

[Runtheball]

I checked Program Files, even using the Search utility in XP, and using the File Options menu to 'show hidden files'. There is no Firaxis folder, and Civ4 is only residing in My Documents. Again it's odd that I'd allow it to install there, or choose to put it there, since I always install games into my C:/games directory. Anyway, that's where it is. I suppose Pitboss doesn't look there for the files it needs, but I don't see a way to direct the Pitboss.exe to look anywhere else.

I appreciate the help, and wish I could get it to work. But I'm already beyond my frustration tolerance level, so unless someone has a magic bullet for this issue I've given up. :confused:

[Celeval]

How'd you get over? I don't see a way.

This, I must investigate. :-)

There's a pass through the mountains. Muahaha.

[gstelmack]

I recall reading something a long time ago about .net, that it was a very insecure and subject to hacking. I don't recall the details, and know very little about network security, but I've always avoided installing it. Can anyone enlighten me about the security aspect of the .net thing?

It's a shame you can't run Extractor for your FOF leagues ;)

(.NET is fine for security. Don't know about the earlier versions, but 1.1/2.0 really haven't been that big an issue).

[WVUFAN]

There's a pass through the mountains. Muahaha.

When I find it ... that's where a fort will go.

Now ... where is your little scout? My warriors are hungry.

[Celeval]

When I find it ... that's where a fort will go.

Now ... where is your little scout? My warriors are hungry.

Fort? You're assuming a well-guarded settler isn't on his way there right now.

[WVUFAN]

Fort? You're assuming a well-guarded settler isn't on his way there right now.

Very true. Understand, though, any intrusion past the Mountains of Dread is entering Japanese territory, and will be dealt ... harshly. :)