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st.cronin
06-05-2006, 07:18 PM
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,39020369,39216936,00.htm

Anybody have an opinion on this? Yahoo has been accused by various people of making a "deal with the devil", also known as China - that they are somehow aiding the Chinese government in tracking down dissidents and just generally being oppressive and evil.

Anybody have any thoughts? The link is from Sep 2005, but I heard something on the radio about journalists in the UK and Ireland getting on board, so I figure the boycott is gaining steam, or at least still treading water.

Joe
06-05-2006, 07:45 PM
I like yahoo.

Easy Mac
06-05-2006, 07:46 PM
i think too often people confuse human rights with the right to leak priveliged information. in a free society, obviously it should be ok as long as your blowing the whistle, but china isn't really a democracy. its more that china doesn't have logical free speech laws rather than a strictly human rights issues. we seem to embrace democratic business ideas until it starts involving foreign interests, then we turn all socialist in this country.

Easy Mac
06-05-2006, 07:47 PM
dola, i don't use yahoo just because its not as fluid as google.

st.cronin
06-05-2006, 08:01 PM
i think too often people confuse human rights with the right to leak priveliged information. in a free society, obviously it should be ok as long as your blowing the whistle, but china isn't really a democracy. its more that china doesn't have logical free speech laws rather than a strictly human rights issues. we seem to embrace democratic business ideas until it starts involving foreign interests, then we turn all socialist in this country.

I don't understand what you mean, even a little bit. I have had two beers.

clintl
06-05-2006, 08:08 PM
I've only had one, but the closest I could come to deciphering that was that he believes it's socialistic to expect businesses to support human rights by not cooperating and not assisting foreign dictatorships, whereas it is democratic to leave them a free pass when, in the pursuit of profits, they assist oppressive regimes.

Although I hope that's not what he meant.

timmynausea
06-05-2006, 08:11 PM
I've only had one, but the closest I could come to deciphering that was that he believes it's socialistic to expect businesses to support human rights by not cooperating and not assisting foreign dictatorships, whereas it is democratic to leave them a free pass when, in the pursuit of profits, they assist oppressive regimes.

Although I hope that's not what he meant.

I also hope not. Holy shit!

Toddzilla
06-05-2006, 08:15 PM
So some dipshit activist with a special interest group is all up in arms, and we're supposed to boycott? Who gives a shit?

Boycott Yahoo! because they suck.

st.cronin
06-05-2006, 08:16 PM
So some dipshit activist with a special interest group is all up in arms, and we're supposed to boycott? Who gives a shit?

Boycott Yahoo! because they suck.

Thank you for not paying attention to the first post in the thread.

Easy Mac
06-05-2006, 08:18 PM
im saying that telling a state secret isn't a human right. this instance isn't a human rights issue, more of an issue of dissemination of information. i'm not sure its ever been the place of corporations to get laws involving individuals changed in countries. its up to the people. business is business, its not really yahoo's fault that the largest, most lucrative country in the world is communist.

Daimyo
06-05-2006, 08:19 PM
Yahoo is so 1997...

st.cronin
06-05-2006, 08:25 PM
im saying that telling a state secret isn't a human right. this instance isn't a human rights issue, more of an issue of dissemination of information. i'm not sure its ever been the place of corporations to get laws involving individuals changed in countries. its up to the people. business is business, its not really yahoo's fault that the largest, most lucrative country in the world is communist.

While I certainly understand that point of view, how do you conclude that this is all about state secrets? I thought this had to do with identifying dissidents.

Telle
06-06-2006, 07:59 AM
While I certainly understand that point of view, how do you conclude that this is all about state secrets? I thought this had to do with identifying dissidents.

Well according to the article that you linked to, Yahoo helped the Chinese government track down someone who was disseminating state secrets.

JeeberD
06-06-2006, 09:09 AM
I only use Yahoo for free fantasy sports...

DanGarion
06-06-2006, 09:28 AM
Shit if you people have a problem with this, why don't you have problems with items made by cheap labor in China? Or any other country, where these companies in the US are taking advantage of cheap labor.

QuikSand
06-06-2006, 09:50 AM
The Yahoo! photos service is pretty cool, especially with the link through TiVo. And free fantasy sports. That's it, that's the list.

stevew
06-06-2006, 09:51 AM
Yahoo movies provides easy listing information for my area. I don't need something like fandango to order tickets or anything.

wade moore
06-06-2006, 09:54 AM
The Yahoo! photos service is pretty cool, especially with the link through TiVo. And free fantasy sports. That's it, that's the list.

You mean Flickr, or something else?

I LOVE Flickr and often wish it was google controlled so that it matched everything else that I use...

QuikSand
06-06-2006, 10:04 AM
You mean Flickr, or something else?

I mean Yahoo! Photos... web-based service for free hosting of photos. You can set up your TiVo service to connect to your account, and then you can view your pictures on your TV screen. It's pretty cool.

I think this is the correct link:

http://photos.yahoo.com

wade moore
06-06-2006, 10:06 AM
I mean Yahoo! Photos... web-based service for free hosting of photos. You can set up your TiVo service to connect to your account, and then you can view your pictures on your TV screen. It's pretty cool.

I think this is the correct link:

http://photos.yahoo.com

That's interesting to me because www.flickr.com is also owned by Yahoo. It's a bit weird to me that they're not combined. I already put stuff on Flickr, kind of annoying to have to do it on that site also.

That being said, you know if you have the desktop software installed you can just view them straight from your PC, right?

QuikSand
06-06-2006, 10:10 AM
I don't know the mechanics -- I seem to recall that it required an extension for FireFox, which was a very quick download -- but then it's very simple to upload pics. I don't kno if it's the same client ad used by FlickR... heck, the whole service might be the same thing, I don't know. But I believe TiVo's arrangement is solely with Yahoo! Photos.

wade moore
06-06-2006, 10:11 AM
I don't know the mechanics -- I seem to recall that it required an extension for FireFox, which was a very quick download -- but then it's very simple to upload pics. I don't kno if it's the same client ad used by FlickR... heck, the whole service might be the same thing, I don't know. But I believe TiVo's arrangement is solely with Yahoo! Photos.

I'm looking through it. Definately completely seperate. Quite interesting to me.

*shrug*... for now I'll just view photos straight from my computer on the TiVO when I need to... this could be valuable to view your photos with family on their TiVO, but all of my family has DirecTiVO.

Glengoyne
06-06-2006, 10:53 AM
I like yahoo.

No. You like YooHoo.