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Bearcat729
06-12-2006, 11:15 AM
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html


Roethlisberger Involved In Motorcycle Accident

POSTED: 11:50 am EDT June 12, 2006
UPDATED: 12:09 pm EDT June 12, 2006
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PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle accident on Monday morning.

The Steelers confirmed the accident for Channel 4 Action News.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review said the accident happened on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge.

A witness told Channel 4 Action News that Roethlisberger went over the handlebars, hit the windshield of another vehicle and then hit the ground.

Roethlisberger was not wearing a helmet, according to the paper.

Police have closed down the bridge, Second Avenue and the Armstrong Tunnels.

Roethlisberger was taken to Mercy Hospital. There is no word on the extent of his injuries.

MikeVic
06-12-2006, 11:16 AM
Damnit!

RedKingGold
06-12-2006, 11:17 AM
Wow...that was stupid. Hopefully he's not dead.

How could you not wear a helmet! Dumbass

Eaglesfan27
06-12-2006, 11:17 AM
That sucks. :(

sachmo71
06-12-2006, 11:18 AM
ugh. i lost a friend who was injured riding a motorcycle, and he was wearing all sorts of protective gear. :(

Daimyo
06-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Wow.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:22 AM
I have 100% confidence in Omar Jacobs.

larrymcg421
06-12-2006, 11:23 AM
Paging Kordell Stewart...

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:24 AM
Big shit all over the local news right now. Supposedly he was talking after the incident, but a cop said it looked bad.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:25 AM
How much of a difference does a helmet actually make in these type of situations?

MikeVic
06-12-2006, 11:26 AM
How much of a difference does a helmet actually make in these type of situations?

Hopefully his head didn't hit the windshield?

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:28 AM
Hopefully his head didn't hit the windshield?

It did.

I hope he's okay, but this looks awful.

vtbub
06-12-2006, 11:29 AM
bad link

Raiders Army
06-12-2006, 11:29 AM
LOL. I remember something about him riding a motorcycle without a helmet last year and Bill Cowher warning him. That's what you get, sucka!

TroyF
06-12-2006, 11:30 AM
I remember reading something about how the Steeler had asked him to stop riding the bike and he refused.

This was back when the "Ben has a huge ego and isn't a team player" stories were going around last year.

Hope he's ok.


edit: RA beat me to it.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:32 AM
Woman makes a left handed turn into him when he had a green light.

Bearcat729
06-12-2006, 11:34 AM
bad link


Really, because it's working for me?

Draft Dodger
06-12-2006, 11:34 AM
I remember reading something about how the Steeler had asked him to stop riding the bike and he refused.

This was back when the "Ben has a huge ego and isn't a team player" stories were going around last year.

Hope he's ok.


edit: RA beat me to it.

but you pulled it off with some class

RedKingGold
06-12-2006, 11:34 AM
Apparently the USA Soccer Team could really use his header skills in Germany right now...

:rolleyes:

Draft Dodger
06-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Really, because it's working for me?

it's working, but I think the site is getting some traffic

vtbub
06-12-2006, 11:39 AM
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POSTED: 11:50 am EDT June 12, 2006
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RedKingGold
06-12-2006, 11:39 AM
dola, more information from ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

Apparently not life threatening, so thats good...

oykib
06-12-2006, 11:40 AM
They never fail to come out in terrible situations like this do they?

I'll be praying for him.

Eaglesfan27
06-12-2006, 11:41 AM
dola, more information from ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

Apparently not life threatening, so thats good...


Actually, they say early indications are that it isn't life threatening. It's probably too early to say for sure if this just happened..

chinaski
06-12-2006, 11:41 AM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/8449812

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 11:42 AM
I remember reading something about how the Steeler had asked him to stop riding the bike and he refused.

This was back when the "Ben has a huge ego and isn't a team player" stories were going around last year.

Hope he's ok.


edit: RA beat me to it.

at first I thought "what an idiot riding without a helmet" then I started thinking more like "what a frigging idiot, riding a bike at all"...

Not that I like the guy all that much, but I hope he's ok.

FM

JS19
06-12-2006, 11:43 AM
How much of a difference does a helmet actually make in these type of situations?

As with pretty much everything in life, it all depends. A helmet, along with other protective gear, for the mostt part will make a huge difference in the injuries you suffer. I dont know anything about what happened to Big Ben here, but lets say he did go head first through the windshield, a helmet could have been a difference maker between life and death, it wont however, help you avoid neck injuries, at least not in any of my experiences riding.

I honestly dont understand how someone can ride w.o a helmet, doesnt make much sense to me.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:48 AM
at first I thought "what an idiot riding without a helmet" then I started thinking more like "what a frigging idiot, riding a bike at all"...

Not that I like the guy all that much, but I hope he's ok.

FM


Yeah, with the way that motorists can totally ignore bikes on the road, I think that riding one is not a good idea generally.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:48 AM
Windshield was cracked, but not punctured.

Cringer
06-12-2006, 11:52 AM
I'm sorry, but what a fucking idiot for not wearing a helmet. I think guys on bikes with no helmets are complete morons.

Hope he comes out ok, then he can go without a helmet this season at QB.

Franklinnoble
06-12-2006, 11:53 AM
There's a Carson Palmer joke in here somewhere, but until I know that Ben is OK, I'm going to refrain...

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 11:53 AM
Yeah, with the way that motorists can totally ignore bikes on the road, I think that riding one is not a good idea generally.

from that answer, you probably ride a bike, I'm not saying it's not a good idea for you, do what you want. (and if you don't ride, well, change the "you" for whatever name you want ;)) Maybe I'm thinking the same you do, as in you have so little protection on a bike and so much you don't control. In my eye, it's taking unnecessary risk when you're whole career lies on your health...

FM

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 11:54 AM
Hope he comes out ok, then he can go without a helmet this season at QB.

that's an idea :D

FM

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 11:55 AM
never got motorcyles. always considered them teh dumb.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:56 AM
I'm sorry, but what a fucking idiot for not wearing a helmet. I think guys on bikes with no helmets are complete morons.

Hope he comes out ok, then he can go without a helmet this season at QB.


I think you should ride with a helmet.

I also think that people should account for motorcyles before they pull in front of them and make a left handed turn.

kcchief19
06-12-2006, 11:57 AM
I honestly dont understand how someone can ride w.o a helmet, doesnt make much sense to me.
Ditto. Contrary to urban legends, a helmet can't hurt you. And there will be times when a helmet still won't be enough. But it sure can turn a major head trauma into a minor injury.

I'm all for enjoy life and all that jazz, but personally my life is too valuable to me to take part in high risk activities. And while I'm not a franchise quarterback, I appreciate the committments to my family enough not to risk myself unnecessarily. There are enough bad things that can happen to you on a football field to ruin your career and livelihood, I don't know why you'd compound that by riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

I think this case underscores that any more -- I'd be less worried about what Ben might do on a motorcycle, but more worried about what someone else will do when he's on a motorcycle, as it sounds like is the case here.

DanGarion
06-12-2006, 11:57 AM
Yeah, with the way that motorists can totally ignore bikes on the road, I think that riding one is not a good idea generally.
And the way that most motorcyclists completely disregard the rules of the road.

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 11:58 AM
I think you should ride with a helmet.

I also think that people should account for motorcyles before they pull in front of them and make a left handed turn.

the motorcyles should account for me. my car with own them.

stevew
06-12-2006, 11:58 AM
And the way that most motorcyclists completely disregard the rules of the road.

By going through a green light?

Eaglesfan27
06-12-2006, 12:00 PM
By going through a green light?

He didn't say Ben did. He said most motorcyclists do. That has been my experience as well, whether it be riding between cars when their isn't a lane there, riding on the shoulder, or doing other things that are stupid.

DanGarion
06-12-2006, 12:00 PM
By going through a green light?
No by constantly speeding excessively. Cutting lanes. Swervying through traffic. Did I meantion speeding?

MizzouRah
06-12-2006, 12:01 PM
I'm sorry, but what a fucking idiot for not wearing a helmet. I think guys on bikes with no helmets are complete morons.

Hope he comes out ok, then he can go without a helmet this season at QB.

Don't be sorry, he is an f'n idiot for not wearing a helmet. It's like a seatbelt and my wife not wearing one. "Oh, but my friend survived an accident because she wasn't wearing one." Ah....ok.

I just bought a protective jacket for riding this weekend, sure if I hit someone at 75 mph, I'm probably dead, but it just might save my life too. A helmet should be MANDENTORY in all states. If not, ride at your own risk and sign a waiver.

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 12:01 PM
I think you should ride with a helmet.

I also think that people should account for motorcyles before they pull in front of them and make a left handed turn.

thing is, that kind of accident could have easily happened with a car cutting another car in a moment of distraction and that would only have resulted in crushed steel and scratched paint.

and we were not there, who's telling us that Ben wasn't speeding to beat the light and came out of nowhere...

FM

cuervo72
06-12-2006, 12:01 PM
I think I have had times when motorcyclists have tried to *beat* me to the left while stopped to make a turn (but then, I'd had a *car* try to do this too).

Generally though, I would say that many drivers are oblivious to bikes on the road (I don't ride one, but about every other male in my and my wife's family has).

sachmo71
06-12-2006, 12:02 PM
By going through a green light?


i believe he was speaking in generalities, not this specific situation, and I agree with him. Yes, motorists should pay more attention, as bikes are harder to see. But guys who ride between lanes, pop-wheelies, make illegal turns and dart between cars, do not help the situation. in general. :)

kcchief19
06-12-2006, 12:02 PM
And the way that most motorcyclists completely disregard the rules of the road.
There are many cyclists who follow the rules of the road. I have no problem with them.

That said, I'd say the ratio of cars to motorcycles I see on the road I'm sure is greater than 1,000 to 1 -- could be 10,000 to one. I'll bet I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen a car pass on the shoulder of a highway, as an example

But I'd say a half dozen times a year I see a dumbass on a motorcycle pass in between cars driving alongside one another on the highway. There's a stretch of interstate by my house where during the last year I've seen somebody popping wheelies a half dozen times. There are morons in every walk of life, but for some reason motorcyclists account for more than their fair share.

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 12:06 PM
There are many cyclists who follow the rules of the road. I have no problem with them.

That said, I'd say the ratio of cars to motorcycles I see on the road I'm sure is greater than 1,000 to 1 -- could be 10,000 to one. I'll bet I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen a car pass on the shoulder of a highway, as an example

But I'd say a half dozen times a year I see a dumbass on a motorcycle pass in between cars driving alongside one another on the highway. There's a stretch of interstate by my house where during the last year I've seen somebody popping wheelies a half dozen times. There are morons in every walk of life, but for some reason motorcyclists account for more than their fair share.

Check out motorcyle week in Laconia, NH this week. Let's just say it won't change your mind on this.

Bearcat729
06-12-2006, 12:07 PM
The only reason I've heard that bikers won't wear helmets is that most bikers would rather die without a helmet rather than be paralyzed with a helmet on.

kcchief19
06-12-2006, 12:07 PM
If not, ride at your own risk and sign a waiver.
I've always been a supporter of helmet lies, with one caveat -- if you want to do away with helmet laws, we do away with all protections for you. You need to pay a higher insurance rate that covers you not wearing a helmet, and if your insurance doesn't cover you not wearing a helmet then you need to liquidate your assets before you get one dime of Medicaid. I dislike that the rest of us with commonsense are consistently subsizing the galactically stupid.

Draft Dodger
06-12-2006, 12:09 PM
There are many cyclists who follow the rules of the road. I have no problem with them.

That said, I'd say the ratio of cars to motorcycles I see on the road I'm sure is greater than 1,000 to 1 -- could be 10,000 to one. I'll bet I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen a car pass on the shoulder of a highway, as an example

But I'd say a half dozen times a year I see a dumbass on a motorcycle pass in between cars driving alongside one another on the highway. There's a stretch of interstate by my house where during the last year I've seen somebody popping wheelies a half dozen times. There are morons in every walk of life, but for some reason motorcyclists account for more than their fair share.

I don't know, I think the ratio of idiots to vehicles is about the same accross the board. I've seen plenty of fucktards in cars.

panerd
06-12-2006, 12:11 PM
Wow, I am as big of a Bengal fan as you can be and absolutely despise the Steelers and I am really hoping everything is okay. From reading some of the posts in this thread you would have thought he just raped a little girl and threw her off a bridge. What not hold off the critisisms of Ben and helmets until we get more information?

MizzouRah
06-12-2006, 12:11 PM
I've always been a supporter of helmet lies, with one caveat -- if you want to do away with helmet laws, we do away with all protections for you. You need to pay a higher insurance rate that covers you not wearing a helmet, and if your insurance doesn't cover you not wearing a helmet then you need to liquidate your assets before you get one dime of Medicaid. I dislike that the rest of us with commonsense are consistently subsizing the galactically stupid.

Agreed. We were just talking about that here at work.

I have a Yamaha R6 and I always get that look and stare from motorists who have seen something similar and an idiot attached to it who weave in and out of traffic and go so damn fast, you don't see them in your rear view mirror until they are about to pass you. Most of those types also have temp tags for some reason.

It's too bad, I've taken the safety course and I just love the crotch rocket style of bikes... I'm extremely safe consious.

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 12:13 PM
I don't know, I think the ratio of idiots to vehicles is about the same accross the board. I've seen plenty of fucktards in cars.

but there are even plenty more cars on the road than bikes, no?

FM

Maple Leafs
06-12-2006, 12:22 PM
The article from last year where he says he'll keep riding without a helmet even after Cowher talks to him:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05127/500755.stm

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 12:23 PM
The article from last year where he says he'll keep riding without a helmet even after Cowher talks to him:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05127/500755.stm

It's like rain on your wedding day.

stevew
06-12-2006, 12:29 PM
Serious but stable condition.

clintl
06-12-2006, 12:36 PM
My father was seriously injured in a motorcycle accident when I was 19. He'd probably be dead if he wasn't wearing a helmet. As it was, he was in the hospital for two months, then at home recuperating for another four before he could even go back to work.

Sometimes, a helmet isn't enough. My uncle was a motorcycle cop who was killed in an accident while on duty pursuing a car.

I'll never ride one.

chinaski
06-12-2006, 12:43 PM
from front page of drudgereport.com....
<tt>TRAUMA UNIT: Super Bowl QB Roethlisberger suffers serious head injury in motorcycle accident... (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/accident.html)
In surgery now, in serious, but stable condition... Developing... (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/12/D8I6QD600.html)</tt>

Suburban Rhythm
06-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Who really knows how true any of this is...you all know how things travel!

The area is about 6 blocks from my building here. Rumor is the car was heading the wrong way on a one-way street (2nd Ave)--damn woman drivers!

cthomer5000
06-12-2006, 12:58 PM
The article from last year where he says he'll keep riding without a helmet even after Cowher talks to him:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05127/500755.stm

I knew he had specifically affirmed his decision to not ride with a helmet at some point. Big thanks for the link on this. What a moron.

Draft Dodger
06-12-2006, 01:01 PM
but there are even plenty more cars on the road than bikes, no?

FM

that's my point

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 01:02 PM
that's my point

I guess I missed it too.

If the fucktart count is relatively equal then the fucktard rate for bikers is off the charts.

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 01:08 PM
I guess I missed it too.

If the fucktart count is relatively equal then the fucktard rate for bikers is off the charts.

and that's my point. Say you see one fucktard biker in a day out of the 5 bikers you saw, then you see one fucktard motorist out of the 100 motorists you saw in the day, well the ratio is, as mrsmurf said, off the chart.

Disclaimer: totally invented numbers, I have no stats to prove any claims made here :)

FM

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 01:09 PM
and that's my point. Say 1 see one fucktard biker in a day out of the 5 bikers you saw, then you see one fucktard motorist out of the 100 motorists you saw in the day, well the ratio is, as mrsmurf said, off the chart.

Disclaimer: totally invented numbers, I have no stats to prove any claims made here :)

FM

Disclaimer #2: fucktard is loosely defined here. one man's fucktard and another man's einstein.

FrogMan
06-12-2006, 01:10 PM
Disclaimer #2: fucktard is loosely defined here. one man's fucktard and another man's einstein.

true, true.

FM

SnDvls
06-12-2006, 01:10 PM
wow, didn't I just hear him this morning on Tony Bruno?

Franklinnoble
06-12-2006, 01:14 PM
wow, didn't I just hear him this morning on Tony Bruno?

He was giving the interview from the motorcycle... that explains it.

Lonnie
06-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Texas has no helmet law. I choose to wear mine. I value my brain just a little more than having the wind blow through my hair.

I had an accident in 94 where I hit a rather large pothole, went into a high speed wobble and rolled with my bike about 100 yards across pavement into a ditch and up against a barbed wire fence. I know if I didn't have my helmet on then it would have been a very ugly scene as my head bounced off the pavement and ground several times as my body rolled along. Sky, ground, sky, ground, sky, ground, sky is all that I saw as it was happening. I love my helmet.

That said, stupid move Ben, hope you are O.K.

SunDevil
06-12-2006, 01:16 PM
http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0612/9356658_240X180.jpg

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 01:19 PM
http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0612/9356658_240X180.jpg

wow

AlexB
06-12-2006, 01:19 PM
http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0612/9356658_240X180.jpg

Holy fuck. :(

Firts two stories I found went from 'in surgery, serious but stable' to 'had some minor gashes on forehad', so who knows what the truth is. If that's genuine shot, that's scary...

SunDevil
06-12-2006, 01:29 PM
http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0612/9356574_400X300.jpg

http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0612/9356577_400X300.jpg

PackerFanatic
06-12-2006, 01:29 PM
ouch...

SunDevil
06-12-2006, 01:34 PM
Pittsburgh police have scheduled a news conference for 3 p.m. It will be carried live on ThePittsburghChannel.com.

Schmidty
06-12-2006, 01:39 PM
My first reaction is "Wow, I really hope and pray that he's going to be ok". My second reaction is "What a moron".

Bearcat729
06-12-2006, 01:40 PM
Ugh some people need to be hurt.

hxxp://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-blood-from-motorcycle-accident_W0QQitemZ8827638471QQcategoryZ56080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And the text from the ebay auction because I'm sure they'll pull it

Ravens fan in right place at right time.
1 ounce of Roethlisberger blood up for auction collected from the scene of the accident in Pittsburgh on June 12th at 11:30am

You can do with it as you wish. You can clone the DNA to make ugly stupid QB's with disturbing facial hair, or you can just mount it on your dashboard and just laugh when the Steelers are 4-12 this year.

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*do not bid this is just a joke, you will receive nothing..DUH

wade moore
06-12-2006, 01:45 PM
My first reaction is "Wow, I really hope and pray that he's going to be ok". My second reaction is "What a moron".

Sums up my reaction as well.

RedKingGold
06-12-2006, 01:55 PM
ESPN is reporting the surgery is for a broken jaw, 6-8 week injury

SunDevil
06-12-2006, 01:56 PM
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html

PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is undergoing surgery after a motorcycle accident on Monday morning, doctors at Mercy Hospital said.

Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition, according to Dr. Larry Jones.

According to a police source, Roethlisberger suffered a broken jaw, broke his left sinus cavity, suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost many teeth and has severe injuries to his knees from hitting the pavement.

A plastic surgeon has been called in, the source said.

TroyF
06-12-2006, 02:04 PM
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html

PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is undergoing surgery after a motorcycle accident on Monday morning, doctors at Mercy Hospital said.

Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition, according to Dr. Larry Jones.

According to a police source, Roethlisberger suffered a broken jaw, broke his left sinus cavity, suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost many teeth and has severe injuries to his knees from hitting the pavement.

A plastic surgeon has been called in, the source said.

Severe injuries to his knees? Ouch.

Schmidty
06-12-2006, 02:07 PM
Severe injuries to his knees? Ouch.

Hopefully it's just severe road burns or even a cleanly broken bone, and not some type of cartilage injury.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 02:08 PM
That woman is going to have to be escorted out of the state.

DaddyTorgo
06-12-2006, 02:08 PM
clearly i hope big ben recovers and is alright, but i feel it's my duty to point out the stupidity of a) riding a motorcycle and b) riding a motorcycle without a helmet when the health of your body is how you earn your living. especially with non-guarenteed contracts in the NFL.

oh, and Tom Brady would never ride a motorcycle

MizzouRah
06-12-2006, 02:31 PM
..or ride out in the country where there are no stop lights and knuckleheads... like I do..

moriarty
06-12-2006, 02:35 PM
First of all, I hope the guy is all right.

I also wonder if Kerry Collin's phone is ringing. Who is the backup in Pittsburgh these days ... Charlie Batch?

JonInMiddleGA
06-12-2006, 02:40 PM
From the current version of the story posted at espn.com

Steelers backup quarterback Charlie Batch was at the emergency room. He had no comment.

Any wanna bet his comment wouldn't have been printable?
"Oh shit. You mean I gotta PLAY? Oh fuck."

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 02:40 PM
FOF2 Charlie would be a good thing. Regular Charlie would not.

moriarty
06-12-2006, 02:43 PM
FOF2 Charlie would be a good thing. Regular Charlie would not.

Heh, heh I loved Charlie in FOF2. Maybe Rodney Peete is still available.

Deattribution
06-12-2006, 02:45 PM
I feel bad for the guy - definitely a moron move riding without a helmet but he always struck me as an alright kind of guy. Hopefully not a stupid and immature move that cost him his career.

Raiders Army
06-12-2006, 02:47 PM
but you pulled it off with some class
Are you implying that I didn't state it with class? He rode without a helmet. His coach warned him. He got into an accident with his head. You expect me to feel sorry for him?

Edit--Tell me a classy way to call him a dumbass for being warned and then getting injured (not only affecting himself but his team as well) and I'll do it.

dawgfan
06-12-2006, 02:48 PM
Wow, I am as big of a Bengal fan as you can be and absolutely despise the Steelers and I am really hoping everything is okay. From reading some of the posts in this thread you would have thought he just raped a little girl and threw her off a bridge. What not hold off the critisisms of Ben and helmets until we get more information?
I think everybody hopes he's OK, but it's not at all out of bounds to point out how monumentally stupid it is to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.

BTW, for all the Chicago folk here - what's up with the motorcycle riders there? Obviously there's no helmet law there, but even so, I was shocked to observe that the vast majority of riders there don't wear a helmet. I just don't get that (lack of) thinking...

Maple Leafs
06-12-2006, 02:54 PM
From Mrs. Leafs:

Some fans also gathered at the hospital, including Juanita Clark, who sells Steelers' paraphernalia, and her daughter.

If we knows she sells her daughter, shouldn't she be arrested?

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 02:57 PM
"How much for the little girl?"

Joliet Jake Blues

PackerFanatic
06-12-2006, 02:57 PM
HAHAHA, thats great ML

PilotMan
06-12-2006, 03:01 PM
well fuck, sorry guys I wasn't thinking

edit: not the first time this has happend.

Subby
06-12-2006, 03:10 PM
PilotMan - hey - no worries. sorry for overreacting.

you probably saved me two hours of my life, so thanks... :)

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 03:11 PM
Well gee, thanks. :mad:

HAR!

sovereignstar
06-12-2006, 03:12 PM
Well gee, thanks. :mad:

Maybe try a little harder next time to avoid such a comment...

oliegirl
06-12-2006, 03:15 PM
Oh come on...I've spent all freaking day avoiding the WC thread, the radio and the TV, and I get a spoiler in a damn Ben Rothlesberger thread? WTF were you thinking???? Keep your mouth shut from now on please!

Sorry...I posted it and then left the house, just got back on and saw the drama...post is edited.

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Oh come on...I've spent all freaking day avoiding the WC thread, the radio and the TV, and I get a spoiler in a damn Ben Rothlesberger thread? WTF were you thinking???? Keep your mouth shut from now on please!

HAR!

Subby
06-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Maybe try a little harder next time to avoid such a comment...Don't be a cunt.

moriarty
06-12-2006, 03:17 PM
Are you implying that I didn't state it with class? He rode without a helmet. His coach warned him. He got into an accident with his head. You expect me to feel sorry for him?

Edit--Tell me a classy way to call him a dumbass for being warned and then getting injured (not only affecting himself but his team as well) and I'll do it.


Hmmm...

LOL. I remember something about him riding a motorcycle without a helmet last year and Bill Cowher warning him. That's what you get, sucka!

I would try dropping the LOL ... not sure what about a guy getting unjured is funny or deserves a laugh out loud. And then the 'that's what you get sucka', or paraphrasing, he deserved to get seriousl injured b/c he didn't wear a helmet is a bit out of line.

Is he an idiot for not wearing a helmet. Yes. Did he deserve it, and is it funny, uh... no.

sovereignstar
06-12-2006, 03:17 PM
Don't be a cunt.

Okay, Chris.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:18 PM
http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0612/9356658_240X180.jpg


NOT the same photos from ESPN. The car they show in the video has considerable less damage that that to its windshield.

THere was only 1 car in the crash, right? He landed on the car that hit him?

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:20 PM
Oh come on...I've spent all freaking day avoiding the WC thread, the radio and the TV, and I get a spoiler in a damn Ben Rothlesberger thread? WTF were you thinking???? Keep your mouth shut from now on please!

take a fucking lude.

SunDevil
06-12-2006, 03:21 PM
Well you can see the photo for youself. Since when was ESPN considered a solid source?

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#

Second link is a picture slide show. Picture 6 of 8.

rkmsuf
06-12-2006, 03:22 PM
watching a taped soccer game is a concept I am unfamiliar with.

if it takes more than 5 minutes that's too long.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:25 PM
Well you can see the photo for youself. Since when was ESPN considered a solid source?

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#

Second link is a picture slide show. Picture 6 of 8.

I'm just asking. When is anything on the net a reliable source. I guess I should have said pics on ESPN are DIFFERENT than the one I quoted. That would have been better.

BTW.. I had to laugh. I hit that first link and there is a link:

"Need a new car?"

quite tacky yet very funny.

SunDevil
06-12-2006, 03:25 PM
Hurst,

I just looked at the ESPN picture. Both pictures are of the same car. The picture I displayed from the pittsburgh news site, just focused on the part of the windsheild where his head hit, you can see the same thing on the ESPN photo, its the smashed part right above the hood.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Hurst,

I just looked at the ESPN picture. Both pictures are of the same car. The picture I displayed from the pittsburgh news site, just focused on the part of the windsheild where his head hit, you can see the same thing on the ESPN photo, its the smashed part right above the hood.

Color me numbnuts!

You are correct. It was pretty deceiving the way it was blown up. Here I thought that his whole body crushed the windshield (ala classice A Team fight scene stuff).

Guess that is media spin for ya. Thanks for clearin it up.

Raiders Army
06-12-2006, 03:33 PM
Hmmm...



I would try dropping the LOL ... not sure what about a guy getting unjured is funny or deserves a laugh out loud. And then the 'that's what you get sucka', or paraphrasing, he deserved to get seriousl injured b/c he didn't wear a helmet is a bit out of line.

Is he an idiot for not wearing a helmet. Yes. Did he deserve it, and is it funny, uh... no.
point taken

sabotai
06-12-2006, 03:36 PM
My story about helmets...

My uncle and my dad had 4-wheelers when they were teenagers. My great grand parents at the time lived out in east bumblefuck and had a huge yard that they would ride around. One day, my uncle lost control, was tossed from the 4-wheeler and went head first into a tree. If he wasn't wearing a helmet, he would have been dead. (When my great grandmother died, I helped clean out the huge shed they had and saw the helmet he was wearing. It had a huge dent in it. Yeah, he would have been gone if he wasn't wearing it.)

Deattribution
06-12-2006, 03:39 PM
I love how when a spoiler is posted (and I don't watch soccer so I don't care) that the people who are upset always quote it basically ensuring that even if the original post is edited - they spoil it for someone else too.

Raiders Army
06-12-2006, 03:40 PM
delayed dola, I remember I wasn't the only one to LOL about something:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=681162&postcount=9

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:41 PM
I have seen a guy get hit on a bike. He was pulling out of a parallel parking situation on a city street. Car that hit him wasn't going that fast but it was a violent sight. The fact that you are able to fly off the bike makes it look very, very horrible.

The guy was 'ok' but was not wearing a helmet either.

My stepdad's brother, who I am named after, was killed on a bike about 3 months before I was born. My friend from highschool died on a bike. My friend from work was killed in Sturgis 2 years ago. I have seen 2 bike accidents first hand.

I have little sympathy for those who decide not to wear a helmet. Still, it saddens me when people are hurt because of it.

I miss my friend from work.

Subby
06-12-2006, 03:45 PM
I love how when a spoiler is posted (and I don't watch soccer so I don't care) that the people who are upset always quote it basically ensuring that even if the original post is edited - they spoil it for someone else too.
Hah! But I went back and edited my quoted post! What say you now???

yes, I am an idiot.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:48 PM
Hah! But I went back and edited my quoted post! What say you now???

yes, I am an idiot.

I think he was referring to oliegirl.

By the way, here is a World Cup non spoiler for all those whiners...

THE US WILL NOT WIN THE WORLD CUP THIS YEAR!!!!

put that in your pipe and quit complaining. It's not like you birthday was taken away.

Fidatelo
06-12-2006, 03:49 PM
Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing the internet in any capacity, is not trying very hard.

Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing a sports related message board, is not very bright.

Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing a sports related message board, and gets abusive to the perons(s) responsible for inadvertantly spoiling the result, is a giant tool.

dervack
06-12-2006, 03:49 PM
Hah! But I went back and edited my quoted post! What say you now???

yes, I am an idiot.
But oligirl hasn't.

Err, what Hurst said.

Celeval
06-12-2006, 03:50 PM
Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing the internet in any capacity, is not trying very hard.

Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing a sports related message board, is not very bright.

Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing a sports related message board, and gets abusive to the perons(s) responsible for inadvertantly spoiling the result, is a giant tool.

Despite the existance of specific spoiler threads for the purpose?

cuervo72
06-12-2006, 03:51 PM
Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing the internet in any capacity, is not trying very hard.

Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing a sports related message board, is not very bright.

Anyone who claims to be attempting to avoid the result of a sporting event, yet is surfing a sports related message board, and gets abusive to the perons(s) responsible for inadvertantly spoiling the result, is a giant tool.

Cunts: 2, Subby: 0

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:53 PM
Despite the existance of specific spoiler threads for the purpose?

We have an EULA paragraph explaining the rules of said threads and posting out of those threads?

Just wondering. :D

Subby
06-12-2006, 03:53 PM
yes, I am a not bright, giant tool.

thanks for letting my wife use your account :)

Celeval
06-12-2006, 03:55 PM
We have an EULA paragraph explaining the rules of said threads and posting out of those threads?

Just wondering. :D

No worries. Just wanted to make sure I could identify the giant tools.

WSUCougar
06-12-2006, 03:57 PM
[mod hat]
Let's keep it civil, please, folks. None of this is worth getting boxed over.
[/mod hat]

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 03:57 PM
yes, I am a not bright, giant tool.

thanks for letting my wife use your account :)

I have no idea what that means but it compelled me to laugh.

cuervo72
06-12-2006, 03:57 PM
[mod hat]
Let's keep it civil, please, folks. None of this is worth getting boxed over.
[/mod hat]

pfffftttt

sovereignstar
06-12-2006, 03:58 PM
Cunts: 2, Subby: 0

good argument, fobler

Fidatelo
06-12-2006, 03:58 PM
Despite the existance of specific spoiler threads for the purpose?

Yes.

WSUCougar
06-12-2006, 03:59 PM
pfffftttt
Did you just fart on me?!? :mad:

kcchief19
06-12-2006, 04:00 PM
[mod hat]
Let's keep it civil, please, folks. None of this is worth getting boxed over.
[/mod hat]
That won't do much without the wizard robe too.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 04:01 PM
That won't do much without the wizard robe too.

and the magic hands.

WSUCougar
06-12-2006, 04:02 PM
*paws at ground arousingly*

cuervo72
06-12-2006, 04:04 PM
good argument, fobler

Hrm, you seem use that as a bit of a putdown (but then, you've had a bone to pick with FOBL for a while it seems, for whatever reason).

I myself have come to regard the FOBL as a more intelligent, better educated, and better employed subset of FOFC. So in that case, thanks for the compliment.

stevew
06-12-2006, 04:04 PM
Hopefully it's just severe road burns or even a cleanly broken bone, and not some type of cartilage injury.

Supposedly just road burn.

Young Drachma
06-12-2006, 04:07 PM
My dad has a Harley. He really likes it. I don't really get them. But what's with these states and their no helmet laws, in states where they want to mandate all everything else.

sovereignstar
06-12-2006, 04:08 PM
Hrm, you seem use that as a bit of a putdown (but then, you've had a bone to pick with FOBL for a while it seems, for whatever reason).

I myself have come to regard the FOBL as a more intelligent, better educated, and better employed subset of FOFC. So in that case, thanks for the compliment.

http://www.londonstimes.us/toons/cartoons/buzzard.jpg

M GO BLUE!!!
06-12-2006, 04:09 PM
How long until Kerry Collins' phone rings?

stevew
06-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Time to get Kerry Collins on the phone. If he can play at all again ever it'll be a plus. I don't want to go into the season with just Batch Jacobs and Boyd on the roster. Oh, and I guess Rod Rutherford.

stevew
06-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Big John on the spot.

Maple Leafs
06-12-2006, 04:12 PM
I myself have come to regard the FOBL as a more intelligent, better educated, and better employed subset of FOFC. So in that case, thanks for the compliment.
It's also a great minor league training ground for future RWBL owners.

M GO BLUE!!!
06-12-2006, 04:12 PM
Big John on the spot.

:D

Draft Dodger
06-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Hrm, you seem use that as a bit of a putdown (but then, you've had a bone to pick with FOBL for a while it seems, for whatever reason).

I myself have come to regard the FOBL as a more intelligent, better educated, and better employed subset of FOFC. So in that case, thanks for the compliment.

wait a minute. how the hell did I get into a league like that?

Draft Dodger
06-12-2006, 04:34 PM
I would try dropping the LOL ... not sure what about a guy getting unjured is funny or deserves a laugh out loud. And then the 'that's what you get sucka', or paraphrasing, he deserved to get seriousl injured b/c he didn't wear a helmet is a bit out of line.

Is he an idiot for not wearing a helmet. Yes. Did he deserve it, and is it funny, uh... no.

dola,
thanks moriarty

stevew
06-12-2006, 04:34 PM
It's also a great minor league training ground for future RWBL owners.

Edwin Ryan will never get on a motorcycle.

kcchief19
06-12-2006, 04:48 PM
Edwin Ryan will never get on a motorcycle.
I think Joe Torres did.

Daimyo
06-12-2006, 05:13 PM
Oh come on...I've spent all freaking day avoiding the WC thread, the radio and the TV, and I get a spoiler in a damn Ben Rothlesberger thread? WTF were you thinking???? Keep your mouth shut from now on please!
Oh come on...I've spent all freaking day avoiding the WC thread, the radio and the TV, and I get a spoiler in a quote in a damn Ben Rothlesberger thread? WTF were you thinking???? Keep your mouth shut from now on please! The original poster was kind enough to edit his post... good thing you quoted it so the match can be ruined for everyone else!

st.cronin
06-12-2006, 05:14 PM
I hope he's ok, but I can't help but laugh thinking about the look of the face of whoever was, one minute, driving along in Pittsburgh this AM, and the next minute, has a Pro Bowl QB on their windshield.

stevew
06-12-2006, 05:17 PM
I hope he's ok, but I can't help but laugh thinking about the look of the face of whoever was, one minute, driving along in Pittsburgh this AM, and the next minute, has a Pro Bowl QB on their windshield.

Ben never made the pro bowl.

JS19
06-12-2006, 05:18 PM
Just saw his interview on ESPN from about a yr ago. Now I hope he turns out just fine and would never wish this on anyone, but he truly is a fucking idiot after hearing what he said. He says he feels more "free" without a helmet.

st.cronin
06-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Ben never made the pro bowl.

Well, he's a better qb than a lot of guys who have. Although he's not better than Tom Brady.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Ben never made the pro bowl.

id much rather have a SB winning QB in my windshield.

stevew
06-12-2006, 05:26 PM
id much rather have a SB winning QB in my windshield.

Word.

Deattribution
06-12-2006, 05:30 PM
I hope he's ok, but I can't help but laugh thinking about the look of the face of whoever was, one minute, driving along in Pittsburgh this AM, and the next minute, has a Pro Bowl QB on their windshield.


From one of the reports I read - it was a 62 year old lady, so I doubt she even knew who he was.

Surtt
06-12-2006, 05:39 PM
Maybe it isn't "smart" riding a bike with out a helmet.
Neither is standing in the packet and getting the ball off with a 320 dt bearing down on you.

It seams to me the same "I am 10 foot tall and bullet proofed" attitude applies to both.

cartman
06-12-2006, 05:41 PM
Maybe it isn't "smart" riding a bike with out a helmet.
Neither is standing in the packet and getting the ball off with a 320 dt bearing down on you.

It seams to me the same "I am 10 foot tall and bullet proofed" attitude applies to both.

The wearing of a helmet should also apply to both situations.

Deattribution
06-12-2006, 05:43 PM
Maybe it isn't "smart" riding a bike with out a helmet.
Neither is standing in the packet and getting the ball off with a 320 dt bearing down on you.

It seams to me the same "I am 10 foot tall and bullet proofed" attitude applies to both.

Standing in the middle of the information super-highway may not be a good idea, with or without a helmet. ;)

stevew
06-12-2006, 05:46 PM
Supposedly the knee injuries are not super serious, more like road burn. The Jaw is broken, and he needs a bunch of new teeth. Clayton from ESPN suggested that he would be ready for the season, I'd be happy if he can play again period. I think he's likely to get PUP'd and be ready for week 7.

TroyF
06-12-2006, 05:47 PM
Supposedly the knee injuries are not super serious, more like road burn. The Jaw is broken, and he needs a bunch of new teeth. Clayton from ESPN suggested that he would be ready for the season, I'd be happy if he can play again period. I think he's likely to get PUP'd and be ready for week 7.

He should consider himself a very lucky man. I'd be willing to bet major money his next Steelers contract will carry with it a no motorcycle tag and that may apply to any future leader of the team.

yabanci
06-12-2006, 05:51 PM
Maybe it isn't "smart" riding a bike with out a helmet.
Neither is standing in the packet and getting the ball off with a 320 dt bearing down on you.

It seams to me the same "I am 10 foot tall and bullet proofed" attitude applies to both.

getting paid $40 million for standing on the pocket and getting the ball off with a 320 dt bearing down on you = very smart

riding a motorcycle without a helmet.....well, that gets you this:

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/249/windshield8wx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

saldana
06-12-2006, 06:18 PM
Just saw his interview on ESPN from about a yr ago. Now I hope he turns out just fine and would never wish this on anyone, but he truly is a fucking idiot after hearing what he said. He says he feels more "free" without a helmet.


i wonder how free he feels with his jaw wired shut for then next two months.

sorry to offend anyone, but motorcycles are stupid. and states with no helmet laws are even more stupid...i enjoy the fact that i can get a ticket in my 4500 lb pickup truck with airbags and a rollcage for not wearing a seatbelt, but these idiots can ride around at 100 miles an hour with no restraints or protective equipment.

(please note i didnt generalize that all riders are idiots, only the ones that go 100 miles an hour with no helmets, do line-locks, and wheelies on the highway. i think bikes in general are stupid and will never get on one...and if i ever gt the strange desire to, i will just go over to my friend's house, who "celebrated" the 3 year anniversary of losing his left leg from mid-thigh down when a car pulled out in front of him from behind a passing school bus. he wasnt doing anything wrong, was wearing his helmet and protective jacket, and still almost bled to death on the side of the road because MOTORCYCLES ARENT SAFE!)

Passacaglia
06-12-2006, 06:18 PM
Summary of this thread:

"Someone almost died...AND I HAD MY WORLD CUP RESULTS SPOILED!!"

hehehe...anyway, I tape a lot of football games, and I know this is forum is more closely related to football than soccer, but when I tape games, and I really don't want to know the results, I don't go to FOFC. And when I do go to FOFC, I do it knowing there's a damn good chance that it might get spoiled for me. Oh, and riding a motorcycle without a helmets is a bad idea. Bad Idea jeans.

JeffNights
06-12-2006, 06:19 PM
If he had a just a regular sportbike type helmet, they are the ones that have the full face to them...lets see....certainly nolaceration to the back of his head...hmm very doubtful on his jaw being broken, and certainly no teeth missing.


Joey Harrington sucked ass, but he wasnt dumb.

M GO BLUE!!!
06-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Joey Harrington sucked ass, but he wasnt dumb.

He did play piano without a helmet...

timmynausea
06-12-2006, 06:43 PM
Bad Idea jeans.

I thought I was the only person that still said this. That was one of a few Bob Odenkirk skits to make it onto SNL.

Jonathan Ezarik
06-12-2006, 07:08 PM
id much rather have a SB winning QB in my windshield.

Only if it's Tom Brady.

From one of the reports I read - it was a 62 year old lady, so I doubt she even knew who he was.

It's obvious you've never been to Pittsburgh. Even little old ladies know and love Big Ben.

Passacaglia
06-12-2006, 07:09 PM
I thought I was the only person that still said this. That was one of a few Bob Odenkirk skits to make it onto SNL.

It was revived recently by Steve Carrell on The Office.

MizzouRah
06-12-2006, 07:40 PM
It's one of those things, riding is just an exhilarating feeling. People die all sorts of ways, get hurt 1000s of ways, but some smarts go a long way.

1. Take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation rider course
2. Wear protective gear (helmet, jacket, pants, boots, gloves)
3. Obey the speed limit and traffic signs
4. slow down on intersections and crossways
5. If you want to act like a goof, do it on a stretch of highway where there's no traffic.

Who knows, I could get in an accident tomorrow, but I love my bike and I'll do whatever I can to prevent an accident.

cartman
06-12-2006, 07:55 PM
Maybe it was Charlie Batch's mom driving the car?

Galaxy
06-12-2006, 07:55 PM
I'm suprised he didn't have a contract line that prevents him from riding a bike.

Groundhog
06-12-2006, 07:57 PM
Ping: Jay Williams

Dr. Sak
06-12-2006, 08:17 PM
Maybe it was Charlie Batch's mom driving the car?

I heard the person driving the car was a Raven's fan.

Maple Leafs
06-12-2006, 08:25 PM
I heard the person driving the car was a Raven's fan.
That would make it the first successful Ravens drive of the Boller era.

Bad-example
06-12-2006, 08:30 PM
I hope he recovers fully, but I also hope he comes out of this with a new nickname to help him remember not to do stupid things. Perhaps Gummy Ben would be good...?

stevew
06-12-2006, 08:58 PM
I heard the person driving the car was a Raven's fan.

Your grammar makes the baby jesus cry.

Dr. Sak
06-12-2006, 09:03 PM
Your grammar makes the baby jesus cry.

Don't you have an amish buggie to chase?

stevew
06-12-2006, 09:04 PM
Don't you have an amish buggie to chase?
Ezekiel isn't wearing a helmet either.

Dr. Sak
06-12-2006, 09:07 PM
Ezekiel isn't wearing a helmet either.

http://www.geocities.com/mrbeaverfalls/angela2.jpg

saldana
06-12-2006, 09:25 PM
Ping: Jay Williams

PING: Kellen Winslow Jr.

Hurst2112
06-12-2006, 09:36 PM
nice new quote steve. :D

Coffee Warlord
06-12-2006, 09:36 PM
Ping: Jay Williams

Speaking of which, I still think its asinine the Bulls basically set the kid for life when they honored most of his contract (that he violated by setting foot on said motorcycle).

Schmidty
06-12-2006, 09:40 PM
http://www.geocities.com/mrbeaverfalls/angela2.jpg

Is that from 'Kingpin' or 'Witness'?

dervack
06-12-2006, 09:41 PM
I'm suprised he didn't have a contract line that prevents him from riding a bike.
Actually one of the stick points of his first contract with the Steelers was their inclusion of a clause regarding riding bikes, and his insistance of it not being there. Ben won.

DaddyTorgo
06-12-2006, 09:42 PM
Actually one of the stick points of his first contract with the Steelers was their inclusion of a clause regarding riding bikes, and his insistance of it not being there. Ben won.

bet the steelers are regretting that right about now

Groundhog
06-12-2006, 09:46 PM
Ben won.

In light of current goings-on, I'd dispute this point.

dervack
06-12-2006, 09:47 PM
Is that from 'Kingpin' or 'Witness'?
Kingpin

dervack
06-12-2006, 09:47 PM
In light of current goings-on, I'd dispute this point.
I meant the contract stalemate, not anything after. :D

Groundhog
06-12-2006, 09:51 PM
Speaking of which, I still think its asinine the Bulls basically set the kid for life when they honored most of his contract (that he violated by setting foot on said motorcycle).

I remember that people praised them for this, but I'm sure this move was all about the positive PR (public and players relations) buzz.

JS19
06-12-2006, 10:08 PM
In his interview he said that he doesnt ride sport bikes, only choppers and harleys. Why in the hell was he on a Suzuki Hyabusa?? I like to think I know my way around the motorcycle world, I may, however, be mistaken, but this is the fastest street bike out there.

Groundhog
06-12-2006, 10:13 PM
In his interview he said that he doesnt ride sport bikes, only choppers and harleys. Why in the hell was he on a Suzuki Hyabusa?? I like to think I know my way around the motorcycle world, I may, however, be mistaken, but this is the fastest street bike out there.

That what I've heard too. I've zipped around on a Hyabusa and I tell you what, I'd hate to come off if I wasn't wearing a helmet with the amount of power behind that bike... That Roflmaoburger is still alive is nearly a miracle in itself.

astralhaze
06-12-2006, 10:19 PM
That would make it the first successful Ravens drive of the Boller era.

Now THAT is funny

Craptacular
06-12-2006, 10:38 PM
Too many dumbasses (like myself with seat belts) have to learn the hard way, even if it's not the law.

Raven Hawk
06-12-2006, 11:01 PM
There are plenty of idiots out there driving cars as well, which makes it inherently more dangerous to ride a motorcycle in highly populated areas. Take it out on the county highways, ride in a pack and wear a damn helmet.

Here is an excerpt from the Illinois Rules of the Road:

INTERSECTIONS: More than 50 percent of all motorcycle collisions occur at intersections. The most common situation occurs when an oncoming automobile makes a left turn in front of a motorcycle . . .

So not so surprising that he got hit by somebody making a left hand turn.

Bonegavel
06-12-2006, 11:13 PM
It's like rain on your wedding day.

That is less ironic and more like unfortunate.

Dr. Sak
06-13-2006, 05:46 AM
Is that from 'Kingpin' or 'Witness'?

Kingpin

Dr. Sak
06-13-2006, 05:47 AM
In his interview he said that he doesnt ride sport bikes, only choppers and harleys. Why in the hell was he on a Suzuki Hyabusa?? I like to think I know my way around the motorcycle world, I may, however, be mistaken, but this is the fastest street bike out there.

Dola. From what I've heard the bike was a free gift to him because he did a few promotions for a Suzuki dealership.

Suburban Rhythm
06-13-2006, 07:21 AM
Maybe it was Charlie Batch's mom driving the car?
My intial thought was Mrs. Maddox...at least get Tommy a shot at training camp.

Time to get Kerry Collins on the phone. If he can play at all again ever it'll be a plus. I don't want to go into the season with just Batch Jacobs and Boyd on the roster. Oh, and I guess Rod Rutherford.
Hot Rod is the best!! Anyone wearing Pittsburgh blinders who watched him in HS and at Pitt will tell you if you listen!

Pumpy Tudors
06-13-2006, 07:59 AM
Time to get Kerry Collins on the phone. If he can play at all again ever it'll be a plus. I don't want to go into the season with just Batch Jacobs and Boyd on the roster. Oh, and I guess Rod Rutherford.
I saw Rod Rutherford and some of the "Steelers Basketballers" playing against Seton Hill University faculty and staff. If Rod Rutherford plays pro football the same way he plays basketball against an uncoordinated math professor and a 5'1" female microbiologist, well, you'd better hope he doesn't make the Steelers roster.

RedKingGold
06-13-2006, 08:05 AM
Maybe Hines Ward could take some snaps??

rkmsuf
06-13-2006, 08:15 AM
That is less ironic and more like unfortunate.

ok maybe the crash was more like a free ride when you are already there

Franklinnoble
06-13-2006, 08:40 AM
ok maybe the crash was more like a free ride when you are already there

I think it was more like the good advice that he just didn't take.

But who would have thought?

It figures...

sachmo71
06-13-2006, 08:43 AM
What's the over\under on him pulling a Gary Busey and jumping back on a hog a few weeks after he is up and around, declaring that they can take his bike when they pry it from his cold, dead fingers?

Suburban Rhythm
06-13-2006, 08:43 AM
Maybe Hines Ward could take some snaps??

I already had a woman at work say "I bet they are mad they let that Randle El guy go now, huh?"

I hate people...

JeeberD
06-13-2006, 10:52 AM
I hope people learn from his experience since apparently some people haven't learned from Kellen Winslow Jr and Jay Willaims' experiences...

saldana
06-13-2006, 12:13 PM
THIS JUST IN: of course we know that Ben didnt have a helmet, but ESPN's ticker just ran by saying he doesnt have a license to drive a motorcycle either.

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 12:16 PM
THIS JUST IN: of course we know that Ben didnt have a helmet, but ESPN's ticker just ran by saying he doesnt have a license to drive a motorcycle either.

wha?!

If you have a learner's permit, you can still drive a cycle. Not at night and some other rules. Don't know specific state rules.

So, not having a license isn't that big a deal.

rkmsuf
06-13-2006, 12:19 PM
THIS JUST IN: of course we know that Ben didnt have a helmet, but ESPN's ticker just ran by saying he doesnt have a license to drive a motorcycle either.

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8565/haim2jd.png

stevew
06-13-2006, 12:19 PM
Permit was expired i believe.

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 12:20 PM
Roethlisberger had a learner's permit to operate a motorcycle that expired March 29 but had never taken the written and driving tests for a motorcycle license, a source told KDKA.

So the guys gonna get dropped from his insurance and may have to pay out of pocket for medical coverage.

Still, doesn't take away from the event and the seriousness of the main theme of Daddy Dipshit not wearing a helmet.

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 12:21 PM
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8565/haim2jd.png


GET OUT OF MY LANE, LOOK OUT FOR MY CAR.

Whoops, wrong lyrics.

Suburban Rhythm
06-13-2006, 01:32 PM
Post Gazette reporting he will be ready to play in the opener...

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06164/697867-100.stm

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 01:39 PM
I harken back to the childlike face that Mark Hamill lost after his accident. I, as well as many women across the country, hope the surgery didn't change his looks that much.













err. that didn't sound right.

rkmsuf
06-13-2006, 01:40 PM
maybe they made him look like Tom Brady

Solecismic
06-13-2006, 01:41 PM
Post Gazette reporting he will be ready to play in the opener...

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06164/697867-100.stm

I wonder, with the broken jaw and all the missing teeth, if he'll have trouble enunciating?

"What was that, Ben, forty-bleah white with a moofah lavah thump?"

I always thought it would be funny if the mumble-mouth shouter guy on SNL did a skit where he was the quarterback of a football team and no one got the signals.

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 01:42 PM
maybe they made him look like Tom Brady

if that's the case, im going to buy a suzuki today!!!

TroyF
06-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Post Gazette reporting he will be ready to play in the opener...

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06164/697867-100.stm


I don't buy this. Ben is going to have all sorts of issues to work through in the coming months and that's if everything reported is accurate. I think people are jumping the gun on this one bigtime.

sovereignstar
06-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Just read that Pennsylvania law requires one to wear a helmet unless they've either had a motorcycle license for two years (and are over 21) or they are over 21 and have completed a motorcycle safety course.

Edit: Okay, a further search led me to this (http://www.dot10.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-pub7206.pdf). Nothing mentioned about needing a license.

stevew
06-13-2006, 01:53 PM
I don't buy this. Ben is going to have all sorts of issues to work through in the coming months and that's if everything reported is accurate. I think people are jumping the gun on this one bigtime.

Yep, it's just the pittsburgh press trying to make a story where there isn't one, yet. They do it all the time.

Eaglesfan27
06-13-2006, 02:43 PM
Assuming that his jaw will be wired shut, I wonder how well he is going to maintain his playing weight.

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 02:45 PM
Assuming that his jaw will be wired shut, I wonder how well he is going to maintain his playing weight.

liquid lard

FrogMan
06-13-2006, 02:49 PM
Assuming that his jaw will be wired shut, I wonder how well he is going to maintain his playing weight.

while I wasn't a professional athlete, I actually gained weight when I had my maxilo facial surgery and had my jaw wired shut for 5 weeks when I was 17 :)

My mom made the most amazing energy shakes/drinks :)

FM

TroyF
06-13-2006, 02:51 PM
Assuming that his jaw will be wired shut, I wonder how well he is going to maintain his playing weight.


That's one of the problems I'm talking about. Overall conditioning, how the other breaks in his face heal up. Is there any "bump" or "bruise" that is worse than intitial indications made it appear? I mean, there are all sorts of issues to be making a call now on Game 1 of the season.

For now, everyone should just be thankful the guys alive and continue to hope all goes well in his recovery.

SunDevil
06-13-2006, 02:57 PM
He might also have to wear a mask like Rip Hamilton underneath his helmet. Not to mention what kind of stress will be put on his head and face when he gets sacked and knocked to the ground. I am glad that he survived and maybe he will lead a normal life, but a normal life and a life in the NFL are very far apart in general.

AlexB
06-13-2006, 02:58 PM
I harken back to the childlike face that Mark Hamill lost after his accident...

Whaddyaknow - learn something every day: never knew Mark Hamill had an accident like this

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 03:00 PM
Whaddyaknow - learn something every day: never knew Mark Hamill had an accident like this

i can't remember if it was a car or bike. Thought he and billy joel were both in bike accidents.

Desmond
06-13-2006, 03:01 PM
I believe it was former Phillies 1st Basemen Ricky Jordan who almost choked to death when, after breaking his jaw and having it wired shut, he decided to put a bunch of seafood into a blender and drink a seafood shake. Not to long after begining to sip the concoction, he realized that a seafood shake did not taste as good as he might have expected and he began to vomit into his wired shut mouth.

SunDevil
06-13-2006, 03:03 PM
http://www.stars.handshake.de/gossip.htm

Toward the bottom of the article. BTW, pretty interesting stuff.

Exactly. But, anyway, then the accident happened around here?

No. What happened was that I was on the wrong freeway. I was way out in the sticks somewhere and there were no cars and no traffic, thank God. I was going about 65-70 mph... I was speeding, going too fast... and what happened, I think, was that I tried to negotiate an off-ramp and lost control, tumbled over, and went off the road. I fractured my nose and my cheek.

Sounds like a pretty traumatic experience.

Yes. It's such a monumental kind of thing that I can't even put it all together in my head.

FrogMan
06-13-2006, 03:04 PM
I believe it was former Phillies 1st Basemen Ricky Jordan who almost choked to death when, after breaking his jaw and having it wired shut, he decided to put a bunch of seafood into a blender and drink a seafood shake. Not to long after begining to sip the concoction, he realized that a seafood shake did not taste as good as he might have expected and he began to vomit into his wired shut mouth.

quite honestly, vomiting while being wired shut was my biggest fear out of the whole thing and was always on my mind, at least in the first couple of weeks, when I was getting back to normal, recuperating from the surgery and the general aenesthesia (sp?)...

FM

SunDevil
06-13-2006, 03:06 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/Movies/FlickChick/default.htm?cmsRedir=true&rmDate=11202003&cmsGuid=%7BB32CA1F1-1235-48AD-8691-4D83730334BC%7D

And this link says motorcycle accident. Who knows

Suburban Rhythm
06-13-2006, 03:36 PM
Press Conference at 4:00 pm...I was trying to listen on the local FSN AM station. What I got out of it was lots of jacked up stuff from the neck up. No structural damage to the knees.

Pumpy Tudors
06-13-2006, 03:37 PM
So there was a press conference to say that HE GOT JACKED UP! Cool, I hope ESPN was there to capture that!

Suburban Rhythm
06-13-2006, 03:40 PM
So there was a press conference to say that HE GOT JACKED UP! Cool, I hope ESPN was there to capture that!

You've been in SW PA long enough now to know this is the ONLY news story you'll see for the next 6 weeks!

QuikSand
06-13-2006, 03:41 PM
i can't remember if it was a car or bike. Thought he and billy joel were both in bike accidents.

Leave that assclown out of this, please. Worse than the spoilers.

Greyroofoo
06-13-2006, 03:43 PM
pfft about the broken jaw. If Peyton Manning can play with a broken jaw, then Roflmaoburger can too.

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 03:44 PM
Leave that assclown out of this, please. Worse than the spoilers.

fine...take a moment out of your life to come and pick up your Stormfront and River of Dreams CDs.

;) :D

Hurst2112
06-13-2006, 03:47 PM
pfft about the broken jaw. If Peyton Manning can play with a broken jaw, then Roflmaoburger can too.

Roflmaoburger

Roll
On
Fender
Liquifying
Mandible
Along
Orbit

Pumpy Tudors
06-13-2006, 03:55 PM
You've been in SW PA long enough now to know this is the ONLY news story you'll see for the next 6 weeks!
Sadly, this is true. I can't think of a single athlete in New Orleans who would get that kind of ongoing coverage. Not Deuce McAllister, not Chris Paul, not Aaron Bailey (arena footlol). Nobody. I mean, with Ben, I GET it, but it's just hard to imagine all this fuss because I've never seen anything like it.

saldana
06-13-2006, 06:00 PM
Just read that Pennsylvania law requires one to wear a helmet unless they've either had a motorcycle license for two years (and are over 21) or they are over 21 and have completed a motorcycle safety course.

Edit: Okay, a further search led me to this (http://www.dot10.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-pub7206.pdf). Nothing mentioned about needing a license.


unless they have changed it, the law also requires a rider with a permit to be within 6 or 10 feet of another rider that does have a license...that used to be the way it was, not sure anymore.

cuervo72
06-13-2006, 06:25 PM
I wonder, with the broken jaw and all the missing teeth, if he'll have trouble enunciating?

"What was that, Ben, forty-bleah white with a moofah lavah thump?"

I always thought it would be funny if the mumble-mouth shouter guy on SNL did a skit where he was the quarterback of a football team and no one got the signals.

The transformation into Terry Bradshaw moves closer to completion...

cuervo72
06-13-2006, 06:27 PM
Leave that assclown out of this, please. Worse than the spoilers.

Maybe the driver could have avoided Ben if he had been wearing a bright orange pair of pants.

SunDevil
06-13-2006, 06:28 PM
The transformation into Terry Bradshaw moves closer to completion...

Well they said Ben's brain was still intact with no sustained damage, so maybe he is going for a more physical transformation, though with some of his decisions the mental transformation is only years away. :)

Bonegavel
06-13-2006, 08:55 PM
ok maybe the crash was more like a free ride when you are already there

Ah, there we are.

kcchief19
06-13-2006, 08:58 PM
ok maybe the crash was more like a free ride when you are already there
Considering the conversations with Cowher and Bradshaw, I think this was more like the good advice that he just didn't take. Who would have thought it figures?

Joker
06-13-2006, 10:08 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/1985bustinout/BEN.jpg

Suburban Rhythm
06-14-2006, 07:00 AM
Sadly, this is true. I can't think of a single athlete in New Orleans who would get that kind of ongoing coverage. Not Deuce McAllister, not Chris Paul, not Aaron Bailey (arena footlol). Nobody. I mean, with Ben, I GET it, but it's just hard to imagine all this fuss because I've never seen anything like it.

Yes it's big because it's Ben...but this could have been Jeff Reed, and guarantee you it STILL would have led of the evening news.

Pumpy Tudors
06-14-2006, 07:38 AM
Yes it's big because it's Ben...but this could have been Jeff Reed, and guarantee you it STILL would have led of the evening news.
OK, in that case, Pittsburgh is just more interested in the Steelers than New Orleans is about any sports.

Here's the big question, though: What if it had been Rod Rutherford?

Suburban Rhythm
06-14-2006, 07:59 AM
OK, in that case, Pittsburgh is just more interested in the Steelers than New Orleans is about any sports.

Here's the big question, though: What if it had been Rod Rutherford?

2nd story, after the weather. Yinzers love the weather too.

It would still be news because he is technically a Steeler, plus add in the hometown boy and Pitt factor. It would still be a huge story, and be covered from multiple angles.

stevew
06-14-2006, 08:02 AM
OK, in that case, Pittsburgh is just more interested in the Steelers than New Orleans is about any sports.

Here's the big question, though: What if it had been Rod Rutherford?

I think if it were Lee Mays, everyone would have been indifferent though. Same with Barrett Brooks.

Pumpy Tudors
06-14-2006, 08:04 AM
Ten months and I still feel like the fish out of water up here. :)

By the way, Lee Mays is a hell of a basketball player. Louis Lipps is even better, though.

Suburban Rhythm
06-14-2006, 08:24 AM
I think if it were Lee Mays, everyone would have been indifferent though. Same with Barrett Brooks.

True...those two fall under the Kordell clause. Any mention of them is met with contempt and ridicule.

But, it would still be a story, because the stations know that use of the word Steelers in their newscast piques the interest of viewers, regardless of what they are talking about.