Treasure Hunters - anyone watching (spoilers inside)

[saldana]

So far i think its pretty cool, part amazing race, part survivor, part something new, since they actually have to figure out the clues.

the teams are pretty cool. geniuses, ex cia guys, ex airforce, ex miss usa girls, grad students, and a couple family teams.

i am again baffled by people that sign up for shows like this and cant swim.

[oliegirl]

I wanted to watch this but forgot...are they going to be replaying it again? If not, can you PM what happens so I can start watching next week and not be completely confused?

[sabotai]

Never heard of it. When is it on (and what channel)?

[saldana]

I wanted to watch this but forgot...are they going to be replaying it again? If not, can you PM what happens so I can start watching next week and not be completely confused?


sure, it isnt on again until next monday (6/26) at 8 on NBC...i'll send you a synopsis in a little bit

[Celeval]

DVR'd it and just started watching... first impression is the "great" product placement. *rolls eyes*

[saldana]

Never heard of it. When is it on (and what channel)?


10 teams of 3 started out on a treasure hunt...each hour show has the teams racing to find and figure out different clues...at the end of each show, there are enough clues for every team but one, so that team is eliminated. the racing is rather difficult (running up mountains, snorkelling in open surf) and then even after you have the clues, they arent easy.

[saldana]

DVR'd it and just started watching... first impression is the "great" product placement. *rolls eyes*


it gets worse....wait til you see the one teams t-shirts later in the second hour.

[jaygr]

I like it so far. I'm an Amazing Race fan, but so far I think this show could give it a run for its money.

[oliegirl]

sure, it isnt on again until next monday (6/26) at 8 on NBC...i'll send you a synopsis in a little bit


Thanks!!!!

[Celeval]

Hehe... definately painting the preacher's team in a poor light. I like what looks to be forcing the teams to work together, tho.

[Cringer]

I thought it was alright. I like Amazing Race better though.

[saldana]

I thought it was alright. I like Amazing Race better though.

one of the things that i am intersted to see is if the teams can end up going the completely wrong way, since they have to organize their own travel through Orbitz...that could be pretty funny if someone totally misreads the clue and goes to a completely wrong spot and then stands there like a retard.

i am also interested to see what kind of bonus there is for coming in first...one of the the things that i always thought was stupid about AR was that as soon as the next episode started, the team that won the show before lost their advantage, and everyone started out equal again....hopefully there will be more benefits for being the fastest to finish in this game.

i also like the fact that you have to do more than just get from place to place, perform some physical task, then go to the next place...the more thought provoking aspect of this game is appealing to me, so it will probably get a seasons pass from my tivo if the next show is any good.

if anyone missed it and wants a synopsis, let me know, i sent a brief one to oliegirl that i can forward to you.

[Celeval]

i am also interested to see what kind of bonus there is for coming in first...one of the the things that i always thought was stupid about AR was that as soon as the next episode started, the team that won the show before lost their advantage, and everyone started out equal again

?

Amazing Race typically starts the teams 12 hours after they arrive - so the first place team by (say) 18 minutes will get an 18 minute head start. There are checkpoints during some tasks (flights, etc) that will even teams out, but not typically after a stage.

[TazFTW]

Geez, first TAR has the Black family and now Treasure Hunters has the Browns. Dang racist TV people. :p

I didn't like the first hour when the groups were split up because the editing between the two groups was making me nuts. I do like how it looks like The Amazing Race with more thinking puzzles.

[EagleFan]

Hehe... definately painting the preacher's team in a poor light. I like what looks to be forcing the teams to work together, tho.


I think the preacher is painting his team in a poor light. How on earth can this guy call himself a "Man of God" with any kind of clear conscious? Add the annoying screaming lady on that team into the equation and I want them gone and gone quickly.

[sachmo71]

Decent diversion, and I'm interested to see how it plays out.

Things that bother me:

1. The host - he looks like a clone of Stone Philips, with the same amount of personality

2. Music - everytime they are trying to build tension, I hear a swarm of bees.

3. Editing - sure, it's a reality show, but why let your interns cut the shots?


Thing I like:

1. You can go the wrong way.

2. You have to solve a clue to figure out where you are supposed to be if you go the wrong way.

3. Puzzles. It's not The Mole, but it will do.


I'll stick with it and see where it goes. It has promise.

[gstelmack]

Loved that they let the one team travel to the wrong place. Was expecting them to do that in Alaska: let 'em guess, load 'em on a chopper, and fly them a few hundred miles out of the way. But glad to see them do it at least once (and likely more throughout the race).

We'll keep watching, it's got our interest piqued.

[Lathum]

I enjoyed it but how dumb do you have to be to not get Mt. Rushmore? And I have knicknamed the guys from Texas "Team Mullet"

And Saldana, you may want to add a spoiler tag to the title.

[saldana]

I enjoyed it but how dumb do you have to be to not get Mt. Rushmore? And I have knicknamed the guys from Texas "Team Mullet"

And Saldana, you may want to add a spoiler tag to the title.

i thought it was even better that they stood around and argued while there wasnt another team in sight about whether they were in the wrong place. the only thing funnier was team mullet (as you call them) trying to decide if the random rock they picked up off the ground was the artifact or not.

[rkmsuf]

i thought it was even better that they stood around and argued while there wasnt another team in sight about whether they were in the wrong place. the only thing funnier was team mullet (as you call them) trying to decide if the random rock they picked up off the ground was the artifact or not.

I liked the guy on the genius team that said they needed harder puzzles.

[BrianD]

I liked the guy on the genius team that said they needed harder puzzles.

He was right, I got most of those puzzles almost the instant they were revealed. Having said that, was that the same genius that sent them to Mount Teddy Roosevelt? I felt pretty bad for the Young Professionals who got talked out of going to Mount Rushmore and then got eliminated. I guess they need to learn to be more assertive.

Team mullet is going to drive me crazy. Their "leader" is so completely stupid, but he doesn't seem to realize it. It was painful to watch him try to open the time capsule.

[saldana]

He was right, I got most of those puzzles almost the instant they were revealed. Having said that, was that the same genius that sent them to Mount Teddy Roosevelt? I felt pretty bad for the Young Professionals who got talked out of going to Mount Rushmore and then got eliminated. I guess they need to learn to be more assertive.

Team mullet is going to drive me crazy. Their "leader" is so completely stupid, but he doesn't seem to realize it. It was painful to watch him try to open the time capsule.


by "painful" do you mean "hilarious" by any chance...i was laughing out loud at his reasoning for the different combinations he was coming up with.

[BrianD]

by "painful" do you mean "hilarious" by any chance...i was laughing out loud at his reasoning for the different combinations he was coming up with.

It started out funny but then moved on to painful. The poor guy is just so dumb but he doesn't realize it. At least he was smart enough to make an alliance with the geniuses to get through the puzzle.

[saldana]

It started out funny but then moved on to painful. The poor guy is just so dumb but he doesn't realize it. At least he was smart enough to make an alliance with the geniuses to get through the puzzle.


which i thought was equally funny when king mullet got the box open and wile coyote couldnt.

[BrianD]

which i thought was equally funny when king mullet got the box open and wile coyote couldnt.

At that point it came down to the fact that Wonder Boy couldn't read directions. It just goes to show that intelligence and wisdom are very different things. I don't see these geniuses doing well out in the real world.

[saldana]

At that point it came down to the fact that Wonder Boy couldn't read directions. It just goes to show that intelligence and wisdom are very different things. I don't see these geniuses doing well out in the real world.


me either...my early pick to win the whole thing is the ex air force team...they have the brains and the physical tools...the cia guys dont really have the physical abilities, and the geniuses and grad students dont seem to be able to think outside the box very well.

[Lorena]

Antmeister and I finally saw it and really, really enjoyed it.

My breakdown of the teams:

Young Professionals - One of the team members mentioned how something didn't feel right and didn't say anything... assert yourself man! That's why they lost.

Geniuses - Not geniuses at all; maybe they need to "dumb it down", like Francis said, and not overanalyze stuff.

Brown Family - I really like this team, they're somewhat of an underdog because they're physically challenged, but I love their relaxed attitude.

Southie Boys - The only thing I remember about them is their Boston accent.

Miss USA - Not crazy about them especially when one of the chicks mentioned manipulating some of the teams... don't like that attitude.

Ex-CIA - They're logical brains might get them far, but in the first episode, they didn't fair very well. I believe they were 5th out of the 10 teams.

Grad Students - Don't remember them much but I'm sure their hotness will get them far.

Air Force - They have incredible athleticism and might be the team to beat. I would have loved to see Marines on the show. Marines vs. Air Force... which one will outwit, outlast, and outhustle? Oh well, maybe they'll do something similar next season.

Fogal Family - Ahh yes, man of the cloth... what a hypocrite bastard. "We might have to tell a few white lies"... white lies my ass, he stole that clue from that chick. This is the team I'm rooting against... I dislike people that call themselves "Followers of God" and lie, cheat, and steal.. where are their values?!

Wild Hanlons - Their dumbness makes for some good tv IMO. That guy with the mullet cracks me up... looking at a rock and wondering if it was a clue? LOL! I can't believe they left the Geniuses behind after opening the safe... "Ya'll from Texas? So are we! Let's team"... that was classic, I thought they'd stick around to see if the Geniuses could open it but they left them high and dry. Who knows, maybe they weren't allowed to stay. Anyway, they're an interesting team.

Doesn't the host sound like a Captain-Kirk wannabe? I don't know why, but that annoys the shit outta me. He can't sound like that all the time.

Good show, I love DVR but with that $10,000 prize, we might have to watch it live and text in our answers. Yeah, that's how they getcha.

[Draft Dodger]

I watched it last night. my first reality show, a genre I normally detest. It was "ok", about what I expected - lots of editing to make each team fit into the stereotype, and as much manufactured drama as possible.

I would have liked more puzzles like the combination at the end, where we at home have a chance to solve them. Still entertaining though.

btw, fun factoid - the capitol building in Lincoln is nicknamed "the penis of the prairie"

[ChiMatt]

Not as bad as I thought it would be. The Ex-CIA team were never really in the CIA though. It said they did a CIA co-op program together. And the So-called "genius" team has 9 bachelor and 1 master's degree between them. Seems like they did a lot of schooling but doesn't necessarily make them geniuses as can be seen from the first episoide.

My favorite part of the show was watching thhe Hanlons pick up rocks as clues.

[Oilers9911]

What was the rallying cry of mullet boy? Do it Texas style or something like that? Made me laugh every time.

[EagleFan]

Watching that 2nd episode again. Those rednecks trying to get the combination has got to be some classic reality TV moments:

4 times 5 is 20, that's it.
26 letters, times 2, 52 has to be that.
Write down these numbers, 9312, give me every combination of that.
Can't be 6 digits, more like 4 or 3, I'm pretty sure it's 3.


The geniuses have to be kicking themselves when they watch that episode and see that they actually agreed to help those morons.

[EagleFan]

dola: Add the attempt to even find the artifact, and their early prediction of where they were going "Colorado, has to be that, we're near there." and I almost want them to last a few more shows just for the entertainment value alone.


Did I hear them right when they were in the cave, did he actually say, "That's it over there right next to the caution sign." I wasn;t listening closely but thought that's what I heard. If so, that might have even been funnier than the combination attempts.

[stevew]

Watching that 2nd episode again. Those rednecks trying to get the combination has got to be some classic reality TV moments:

4 times 5 is 20, that's it.
26 letters, times 2, 52 has to be that.
Write down these numbers, 9312, give me every combination of that.
Can't be 6 digits, more like 4 or 3, I'm pretty sure it's 3.


The geniuses have to be kicking themselves when they watch that episode and see that they actually agreed to help those morons.

That was absolutely hilarious.

[Lathum]

did the guy from team mullet really just say

"I want to shoot those monkeys"

[Raven Hawk]

The Wild Hanlons are providing some priceless TV. They are cracking me up!

"So we've decided to go 80 miles out of our way to get a burger in the middle of an elimination challenge?"

It's so funny that it hurts!

If I were on one of the better teams, I'd drag the Wild Hanlons with me for entertainment value. They would take up an elimination slot so that another team (a real contender) wouldn't be able to advance.

Looks like Grad Students, although showing lots of heart will be eliminated due to the injury. Previews from next week show the Browns back in it and that would be the logical reason - if the Grad Students couldn't continue.

I'm loving this show.

[Wolfpack]

It's a great show, but the commercialism is so pervasive, I actually wondered to my wife whether the show's producers directed the Hanlons to a Burger King.

At any rate, I can already tell there will be those annoying artificial bottlenecks that keep teams from running away from each other like the "no canoeing after 5:30" rule in last night's show. Given that the Zoomies seemed to complete their tasks as quickly as possible, it indicated they had no chance of actually being able to set out before that deadline (all the tents already set up and waiting for the teams would also point to this conclusion). I know it makes for good TV to level out the playing field, but that was totally arbitrary and somewhat silly.

[Raven Hawk]

I agree, it doesn't seem as though there is any reward for coming in first place at any of the stages.

[Thomkal]

Yeah Wolfpack, one of my few beefs with the Amazing Race is that they are always allowing the teams to catch up to the others at airports or the site of the next clue (does not open until the next morning.) Drives me crazy, but I suppose it wouldn't be as much fun if one team had a huge lead either. To get to the river before 5:30, the Air Force team would have had to figure out the clue in the mine the second they got there, and then risk getting a speeding ticket. It was pretty silly.

The Hanlons make my brain bleed with their stupidty. I just cannot believe that even they would risk elimination to go get something to eat. And the amount of time they take to figure out the puzzles...oh my god. Like I said makes my brain bleed. :)

And how about what the Fogal's did after the Boston guys helped carry their canoe? Man I hope the Browns and Hanlons beat them next round. It's too bad about the Grad students. They showed a lot of heart and strength too carrying the injured girl. And still managed to beat the last two teams.

[kingfc22]

The Hanlons are awesome. I hope they stay in it for as long as possible because they are hilarious. They were in the mine for 11 hrs. and then they went to BK. ROFL!!!

[rkmsuf]

The Hanlons are awesome. I hope they stay in it for as long as possible because they are hilarious. They were in the mine for 11 hrs. and then they went to BK. ROFL!!!


I always wonder what the camera guy is thinking like with this or when the genius people were roaming around the other mountain.

Does the camera guy get food?

[Eaglesfan27]

The Wild Hanlons are providing some priceless TV. They are cracking me up!

"So we've decided to go 80 miles out of our way to get a burger in the middle of an elimination challenge?"

It's so funny that it hurts!

If I were on one of the better teams, I'd drag the Wild Hanlons with me for entertainment value. They would take up an elimination slot so that another team (a real contender) wouldn't be able to advance.

Looks like Grad Students, although showing lots of heart will be eliminated due to the injury. Previews from next week show the Browns back in it and that would be the logical reason - if the Grad Students couldn't continue.

I'm loving this show.

Agreed about the Wild Hanlons. I really dislike the Fogels, and the stunt on the 13th star sealed my strong dislike for them. I hope they are eliminated soon. That is too bad about the grad students. They really did show tremendous heart assuming her injury is serious.

[Eaglesfan27]

My wife and I were discussing how we dislike how they hold the teams back as well, but as she pointed out, at least the Air Force team and the other quick teams got more rest by getting there quickly. With the shortened sleep schedule the night before, that was a big plus. Still, I'd like the artificial barriers to be removed.

[kingfc22]

I really dislike the Fogels, and the stunt on the 13th star sealed my strong dislike for them. I hope they are eliminated soon. That is too bad about the grad students.

Yea, the Fogels have been playing dirty all game. Remember when the dad grabbed the clue out of the water from the girl in the first episode.

[IMetTrentGreen]

The geniuses have to be kicking themselves when they watch that episode and see that they actually agreed to help those morons.

in hindsight, i'd be glad. i'd rather those fucktards stay in it over somebody who could actually beat us

the only beef i have with the hanlons is how bad they make texas look. i wish they could go 15 seconds without bringing that up. otherwise they are great entertainment.

[IMetTrentGreen]

i also like the fogels, always thanking jesus for helping them win millions of dollars. i know jesus is always helping people attain excess wealth

[Raven Hawk]

That kills me that the Fogals pulled that shit on the Southie Boys after the boys helped carry their canoe for 9 miles (I think that's how long they said the portage was, either that or somebody was exaggerating). At least they were kind enough to pray for their competitors after they screwed them over. Lol.

The big question is if they win, would they tithe their winnings to the Church? You could help out alot of unfortunate souls with that money.

[EagleFan]

The Fogals have to go. I can't take watching those hypocrits for another second.

I saw it mentioned earlier, it looks like the Browns are back in the previews. I liked that team so it's good to see them stay on a little longer but they really don;t have much of a chance as I would be concerned about that one guy's health. I don't know how much more his body can take. If they do get back in because of the injury, does that mean that there would be some sort of deal worked out where the Grad students would get some portion if the Browns win. That would seem fair, being how they beat the Browns while carrying an injured teammate.

As far as the Fogals screwing over the other teams in that eposode, why on earth would you chose an ex-CIA team to screw over? They probably still have enough connections to make your life a living hell, if they were the type to hold a grudge.

[ChiMatt]

I want to see what the Hanlons did in that cave for 10 hours! I bet they turned over every rock looking for clues.

[ahbrady]

I want to see what the Hanlons did in that cave for 10 hours! I bet they turned over every rock looking for clues.

The one that didn't go in the cave seems to be even dumber than the other two. If he would have gone in, it would have taken weeks.

[kingfc22]

The one that didn't go in the cave seems to be even dumber than the other two. If he would have gone in, it would have taken weeks.

HAHAHHAHAH

[sachmo71]

I'm not sure how the Browns come back, but readding teams at this stage seems silly to me.

[John Galt]

I'm not sure how the Browns come back, but readding teams at this stage seems silly to me.

I'm assuming it's because the grad students are going to be gone from the show (due to injury). So, I don't think adding the Browns back is a stunt of any sort, but just because the show will be a team short.

Having only 3 TV stations (one is PBS) in our sublet apartment (we moved out of our house a week ago) is quite a shock to the system. I would have never watched this show before, but now I'm actually into it. Very odd.

[sachmo71]

I'm assuming it's because the grad students are going to be gone from the show (due to injury). So, I don't think adding the Browns back is a stunt of any sort, but just because the show will be a team short.

Having only 3 TV stations (one is PBS) in our sublet apartment (we moved out of our house a week ago) is quite a shock to the system. I would have never watched this show before, but now I'm actually into it. Very odd.


I guess that's the other way to go. In the past, most situations that I've seen like this were resolved by having the injured player\team serve as the eliminated team. I hadn't thought of bringing a team back as an option, to be honest.

[John Galt]

I guess that's the other way to go. In the past, most situations that I've seen like this were resolved by having the injured player\team serve as the eliminated team. I hadn't thought of bringing a team back as an option, to be honest.

I'm not a big reality TV show watcher, but in one of the few shows I watched (Top Chef), they did the same thing. Someone had to leave because one of her parents was dying, so they brought back the person who was last eliminated. The previously eliminated person actually survived a couple of episodes before being eliminated again.

[Eaglesfan27]

I guess that's the other way to go. In the past, most situations that I've seen like this were resolved by having the injured player\team serve as the eliminated team. I hadn't thought of bringing a team back as an option, to be honest.

In this case, the extent of her injuries might not have been known when they were eliminating the Browns.

[Lathum]

perhaps someone violated the rules so the Brown's were allowed back in?

[sachmo71]

perhaps someone violated the rules so the Brown's were allowed back in?


perhaps, but i think John's scenario is more likely. she fudged her knee up good.

[kingfc22]

As much as I don't want the Fogel's to win, I think it is messed up how 6 teams can join together and gang up on them and the Air Force team. I also don't like how teams can communicate by phone with each other. Wish it was more like the amazing race where it is every team for themselves for the most part.

[kingfc22]

Ignorant jerkoffs. Too bad the son seems like a good kid with his head on straight.

[Lathum]

Ignorant jerkoffs. Too bad the son seems like a good kid with his head on straight.
I totally agree. They give the state of Texas a bad name. I really started to feel bad for the kid halfway through the show when you could tell he was really embarresed by his familys antics.

[Thomkal]

Yeah I'm glad the wild Hanlon's are gone after their behavior in the last show. The kid was the only one who could figure things out. They treated the Browns pretty badly so glad it came down to those two at the end and the Browns moved on. Browns won't be around much longer though I think.

I like that they can call each other and have to work together on some tasks-it makes it different than the Amazing race. Next week is looking like its going to be pretty painful/scary for some. This game may have more injures than the combined seasons of Survivor and the Amazing Race if they keep at this pace. :)

[EagleFan]

I have to say that I like the way they can communicate tiwh other teams, it adds a bit of depth to the strategy. Even though I can't stand the Fogals, I at least had to like them this episode since they were working with the Air Force team. That said, it was kind of funny how the team giving the Fogals the bad directions put them in a better position for the next part when the Air Force team called them.

Couldn't stand the way the Hanlons were acting in this episode, though I agree with their basic premise that the Browns don't deserve to be in the game anymore after losing already. That also said, I didn't care for the Browns acting like they should still be in the game as I didn't even see them give a nod to the fact that they are in the game only because of a serious injury to another team (a team that still beat them the previous week with that very injury). I think that the Browns should now be playing for that other team, or some kind of arrangement like that.

I will miss the comedy of watching the Hanlons try to figure stuff out. "What's L?" "A,B,C,D,E...L. Twelve, it's twelve."

[Lorena]

Like mullet said, "It's karma". After the crap the Hanlons pulled, they deserve to be out. They started getting really nasty with the name calling which was so uncecessary, but I'll miss them trying to figure out the clues. I give that kid major props for approaching the Browns and apologizing; he has a good head on his shoulders.

My issue with what the last episode is that the Fogels didn't even reach the first destination; in the Amazing Race if you're missing a clue you have to go back to retrieve it. I don't think it's fair the Fogels were allowed to bypass this step.

[Lorena]

dola,

it seems the Fogels and the Air Force have formed somewhat of an alliance... I would LOVE to see the Fogels try to screw the Air Force. That should make some good tv, imo.

[Oilers9911]

In Canada for some unfathomable reason they showed episode 4 and not episode 3. I was mighty confused when I tuned in.

[Lorena]

And how about mullet looking under the Browns butt to get the last number? I love the Browns quote, "You won't let us jump on your boat and now you wanna jump on our back?" Antmeister and I couldn't stop laughing! :D

[TazFTW]

Another injury although it won't affect the game as they were probably going to be eliminated anyway.

It'll be interesting to see if the Geniuses ditch their teammate. The blond one seems to be pushing for it.

The show is like a 1 hour informercial on why not to date Kayte Fogal.

[Oilers9911]

The show is like a 1 hour informercial on why not to date Kayte Fogal.

Dating her would probably be eerily similar to the show. Alot of whining and crying like...waahhhh I can't do it anymore, i'm in too much pain, it hurts so much I can't go another inch...waaaahhhhh :D

[Thomkal]

As my mother said (she had six sons), "I'm so glad I never had any girls" after watching the Fogal girl. :) Man it was more painful to watch that than the "pain" she was feeling at the time.

If any team picked the right round to lose a member to injury, it was this leg. The two remaining can continue on in the game thanks to the scenario in this round (which I loved). I really think the Geniuses will go for it and drop their teammate. Which probably is a good idea giving the bad feelings that have developed and his asthma.

I was very surprised to see them end up in Georgetown which is a half-hour or so from Myrtle Beach here. I'm wondering when this was filmed though as we've only had temperatures like that for the past 2-3 weeks. And I've done that New York to South Carolina road trip before, and it is a pretty mind-numbing experience. :)

[Lorena]

That Fogel chick was driving me nuts! Like one of the Southie Boys said, If I spoke to that to my mom, she would have dug me in the swamp... or whatever he said.

That blonde "Genius" is a major jerk... he knows his teammate has asthma and still rushes him... why choose him to begin with? What a major a-hole. Having said that, I don't think he's that much of a jerk to leave him behind... they're coming back for him.

[thealmighty]

They are from SMU...'nuff said.

[Butter]

This show piggybacks a bit too much off the Amazing Race... but that being said, I have enjoyed it so far. But it looks like the Browns are on their way out... too bad that the Hanlons are out (not really), because they provided a major UIC factor for the show through the first couple of episodes. But that last episode where they got nasty with the Browns went way too far.

[Lathum]

It amazesa me that Katy is such a baby, the girl is 17? years old and obviously in great shape, how the hell can she not keep up?

I agree that the geniuses won't come back for their teammate which is the scummiest thing to do, I would never do that to a friend no matter what the prize is. I also think they are playing up the asthma angle to much, if he as that bad he wouldn't be on the show and where the hell is his inhaler?

[Raven Hawk]

Southie Boys played it pretty smart, though. Even though the Fogals screwed them over in the canoe leg (ditched them after they portaged the Fogals canoe), they were wise enough to realize that the Fogals had information on the order of the map locations. Fogals used their information to get some muscle to help them out. Smart alliance in that situation, although I'm sure both teams would have preferred not to ally.

Geniuses don't know that the Browns are THAT far behind, they only know that they are behind. Like they said . . . if the the Browns ditch Keith, they might think that they could get passed by the Browns due to the 3 hr penalty.

Hopefully they are smart enough to realize that they haven't gotten to their "catch up" portion of this leg. Which means that there will be a bottleneck/overnight stay coming up where all leads will be reduced to almost nothing. They can go back and get their buddy, with no real penalty.

The "drop a person" trap is a great trap though. CIA had to consider it, since they were in first and risked not getting the money. You have to figure the teams that really need to consider the option are the teams in 1st, 2nd, 7th and 8th places. That's the only point where it would really matter.

[sachmo71]

The Fogel mom doesn't exactly discourage that behavior. My guess is that they have let her live her entire life like that, throwing fits to get her way. Even preachers can be bad parents, it seems.

[ahbrady]

Anyone else still watching this? None of these people seem too bright to me. I'm not a genius, so I could be way off, but isn't one way to see hidden writing to hold the paper up to heat? It might be easier to see that by watching on TV since they've shown the candles a ton, but I think I would have figured that one out.

[Wolfpack]

Anyone else still watching this? None of these people seem too bright to me. I'm not a genius, so I could be way off, but isn't one way to see hidden writing to hold the paper up to heat? It might be easier to see that by watching on TV since they've shown the candles a ton, but I think I would have figured that one out.

True, but try thinking of it while under time duress, then pile on to that you've been pretty much going non-stop physically and mentally for probably 24 hours. (They probably caught som sleep on the plane to Paris, but not much after that....)

[Lorena]

We got the fire bit but only because of the Gen-Worth clue. I wonder if they can see it as well?

[Raven Hawk]

I figured that the Geniuses would figure the candle-heat out really quickly. It's such a Sci-Fi/Fantasy staple. I'm surprised that they didn't pull out their wizard hats and robes to figure it out.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm sure those Genworth advertisement/clues are not visible to the contestants. However, I'm fairly confident I would have figured out the paper quickly even on little sleep. However, it may very well be because of the reasons Raven Hawk mentioned. Anyway, I'm still watching and I'm really glad the Fogels are gone, even though they redeemed themselves a bit by helping Air Force in this episode.

[Toddzilla]

We got the fire bit but only because of the Gen-Worth clue. I wonder if they can see it as well?They are digitally added post-production.

[Raven Hawk]

Well, goodbye to Miss USA. It's too bad that they couldn't figure out the map thing. They had gotten themselves into good position. If the other three teams weren't cooperating, they may have had a chance.

[Lorena]

Yeah, I'm sad to see Miss USA go too, they had a pretty good attitude toward the whole thing. Antmeister and I thought they'd give up after digging for over 4 hours but they still gave it their all.

I thought the Geniuses would lose for sure in this round, given the physical challenge, but the guy with asthma did very, very well.

[thealmighty]

worst.finale.EVER.

[bhlloy]

Not kidding... wow what a shitty ending. In fact the last couple of weeks were disappointing after a promising start. Basically the Amazing Race with crappy puzzles and less cool trips.

[Raven Hawk]

worst.finale.EVER.

Agreed. The only good part was one of the Southie Boys likening Francis to a dead porpoise in the final chamber.

Very promising start, very poor ending. I wish they would have let 5 teams compete until the very end. It would have been interesting to see if Ex-CIA or Miss USA could have been thrown into the mix.

That said, I bet they have enough ratings to do another season and draw a bunch of actor-types ala Survivor. Subsequent seasons will be teh suck.

[Thomkal]

I thought the finale itself was fine though the final puzzle being a Twister spinner was odd. But the reunion show part of it was pretty lame. Too rushed, and that online viewer contest being shown during it didn't help any. Barely got to talk to many of the contestants, and no medical updates on the people that got hurt during it.

[Lorena]

I'm probably one of the few that enjoyed the ending. I was fine with any of the final 3 teams winning the whole thing, but I give the Geniuses big props for winning it, the guy with asthma overcame a lot.

2 seconds is much too close for them to lose... sucks to be ex-CIA.

[Butter]

How long did they really have to wait to find out how much the treasure was really worth?

Also, I saw at the end that the prize will be paid out as an annuity over 25 years. So much for letting mom and dad retire. That $40k the first couple of years will barely cover med. school.

[Lorena]

How long did they really have to wait to find out how much the treasure was really worth?

Also, I saw at the end that the prize will be paid out as an annuity over 25 years. So much for letting mom and dad retire. That $40k the first couple of years will barely cover med. school.

The govt will take their mandatory 20%... or whatever it is which will make it less than 40K. Doesn't seem so glamorous now huh?

[saldana]

worst.finale.EVER.


i was wondering what would have happend if air force or the southie boys had just started walking around pushing on stuff and had pushed the star without every having opened the cryptex....would it have opened the door? there were several times in the game where you were allowed to skip past stuff if you figured out the clues fast enough or by a little bit of luck, so i would think they would have opened the door and won.

the live finale part was awful, Laird is the worst host i have ever seen, between yelling at the Geniuses to come over to him at the beginning while they were hugging all the other people, to his shitty interview with the bald ex-cia guy..."so i got an exciting new job in Pensacola, Florida"....and Laird never asked "Doing What?"

i enjoyed the show, but the last couple episodes were not nearly as exciting as the earlier ones...it felt like they made more of an effort to keep the teams closer together.

[rkmsuf]

i was wondering what would have happend if air force or the southie boys had just started walking around pushing on stuff and had pushed the star without every having opened the cryptex....would it have opened the door? there were several times in the game where you were allowed to skip past stuff if you figured out the clues fast enough or by a little bit of luck, so i would think they would have opened the door and won.




I didn't watch the live recap but isn't it entirely possible that's exactly what happened and the other parts of the guy magically opening the thing and spinning the thingy were inserted in there?

[thealmighty]

FYI, the show was done last fall so the Genius dudes had to wait nearly a YEAR to get their treasure. There was a $2 million dollar penalty clause they signed so they had to keep quiet and wonder what they won for most of a year. That sucks.

[saldana]

FYI, the show was done last fall so the Genius dudes had to wait nearly a YEAR to get their treasure. There was a $2 million dollar penalty clause they signed so they had to keep quiet and wonder what they won for most of a year. That sucks.

i was wondering how long had gone by...you knew it had to be at least 6 months for Brooke to be as preggers as she was. thats pretty lame for there to be that much of a delay...i would be pissed....gimme my damn treasure.

the part about the 20 year annuity sucks too.