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larrymcg421
06-26-2006, 12:35 AM
I really enjoyed last year's WSOP pool, so I thought I'd get one going this year, too!
Same rules apply
1) Pick 10 poker players.
2) One of them must be female.
3) One of them must be a non-bracelet winner. (Must be separate from #2)
4) Pick one of your 10 as your ME Event Winner prediction. If you are correct, you win the tourney regardless of score.
5) Scoring system is simple. You get 1 pt. for every $1,000 your players earn throughout all WSOP events.
Please have these in by Thursday at noon (which is when the first non-employee final table will start.)
Vegas Vic
06-26-2006, 03:47 AM
Michael Mizrachi (ME winner prediction), no bracelet yet
Phil Ivey
Ram Vaswani (no bracelet yet)
John Juanda
Erik Seidel
Daniel Negreanu
Carlos Mortenson
Ted Forrest
Erick Lindgren (no bracelet yet)
Jennifer Harman (female)
QuikSand
06-26-2006, 04:29 AM
John Juanda (mein event winner)
Michael Mizrachi (no bracelet)
Daniel Negreanu
Phil Ivey
Ted Forrest
Minh Nguyen
Allen Cunningham
Layne Flack
Michael Gracz
Cyndy Violette (female)
Barkeep49
06-26-2006, 07:17 AM
Kill Phil Squad
Phil Ivey (Main Event)
Daniel Negreanu
Phil Gordon (non-bracelet)
Eric Lindgren
Ted Forrest
Allen Cunningham
Phil Hellmuth
Cyndy Violette (female)
Chris Ferguson
Phil Laak
hoopsguy
06-26-2006, 07:33 AM
ME: Allen Cunningham
Female: Jennifer Harman
Non-bracelet: Gavin Smith
Barry Greenstein
John D'Agostino
Daniel Negreanu
Phil Ivey
Phil Laak
Chris Ferguson
Mark Seif
Subby
06-26-2006, 09:30 AM
Dustin "Neverwin" Woolf
Cliff "JohnnyBax" Josephy
David Williams (non-bracelet)
Liz Lieu (woman)
Alan Goehring (winner)
Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken
Michael Mizrachi
Daniel Negraneau
Gavin Smith
Chris "Jesus" Ferguson
Barkeep49
06-26-2006, 09:32 AM
Dustin "Neverwin" Woolf
Cliff "JohnnyBax" Josephy
David Williams (non-bracelet)
Liz Lieu (woman)
Alan Goehring (winner)
Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken
Michael Mizrachi
Daniel Negraneau
Gavin Smith
Chris "Jesus" Ferguson
BOOOOOOOOOO!
I think this one should have had Chris as the non bracelet winner.
Subby
06-26-2006, 09:34 AM
If I win the 1K NL event, I am definitely flying back to play in the ME. :)
QuikSand
06-26-2006, 09:45 AM
If I win the 1K NL event, I am definitely flying back to play in the ME.
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Honolulu Blue
06-26-2006, 11:23 AM
Kathy Liebert (female - yes she is)
Marcel Luske (non-bracelet winner)
Layne Flack (ME winner)
Phil Hellmuth
Daniel Negreanu
Greg Raymer
John Juanda
Chris Ferguson
Sam Farha
Humberto Brenes
Please have these in by Thursday at noon (which is when the first non-employee final table will start.)
Actually, event #2 starts tomorrow, Tuesday.
Subby
06-26-2006, 11:37 AM
Kathy Liebert (female - yes she is)
challenge
albionmoonlight
06-26-2006, 11:52 AM
QuikSand (non-bracelet)
Subby
Malificent
Primelord
Cyndy Violette (female)
Chris Ferguson
Scotty Nguyen (ME Winner)
Men Nguyen
Sam Farha
Greg Raymer
larrymcg421
06-26-2006, 11:55 AM
Kathy Liebert (female - yes she is)
Marcel Luske (non-bracelet winner)
Layne Flack (ME winner)
Phil Hellmuth
Daniel Negreanu
Greg Raymer
John Juanda
Chris Ferguson
Sam Farha
Humberto Brenes
Actually, event #2 starts tomorrow, Tuesday.
I said Final Table. It's listed as a three day event.
Radii
06-26-2006, 12:13 PM
Chris Ferguson (main event winner)
Cindy Violette (female)
Michael Mizrachi (non-bracelet)
Phil Ivey
Allen Cunningham
Erik Seidel
Daniel Negreanu
Darrell Dicken
Barry Greenstein
Layne Flack
Jas_lov
06-26-2006, 12:17 PM
John Juanda
Chris Ferguson(main event winner)
John D'Agostino
Ted Forrest
Phil Ivey
Jennifer Harman(female)
Gavin Smith(non bracelet)
Erick Lindgren
Barry Greenstein
Brad Booth
Maple Leafs
06-26-2006, 12:18 PM
Daniel Negreanu (me)
Phil Ivey
Ted Forrest
Erick Lindgren
Michael Mizrachi
Layne Flack
Gavin Smith
John Juanda
Cyndy Violette (f)
Phil Gordon (nb)
digamma
06-26-2006, 12:20 PM
Gavin Smith (non-bracelet) (ME Winner)
Michael Gracz
Kenna James
Brad Yukon Booth
Daniel Negreanu
Phil Ivey
Joe Seabock
Barry Greenstein
Michael Mizrachi
Cindy Violette (female)
Honolulu Blue
06-26-2006, 01:04 PM
I said Final Table. It's listed as a three day event.
OK. Apologies.
sabotai
06-26-2006, 01:24 PM
Dan Harrington
Greg Raymer
Daniel Negreanu
Allen Cunningham
Layne Flack
Phil Ivey (ME Winner)
Chris Fergusan
Scott Fishman
Cindy Violette (female)
Marcel Luske (non-bracelet winner)
primelord
06-26-2006, 02:10 PM
If I win the 1K NL event, I am definitely flying back to play in the ME. :)
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timmynausea
06-26-2006, 03:02 PM
Erik Seidel (ME winner)
Mark Seif
Chris Ferguson
Jennifer Tilly (Woman)
Freddie Deeb
Minh Nguyen
Dan Harrington
Phil Gordon (Non-bracelet)
Howard Lederer
Johnny Chan
dixieflatline
06-26-2006, 04:15 PM
Barry Greenstein
Scotty Nguyen (main event winner baby)
Gavin Smith (no bracelet)
Men Nguyen
Nam Le
Erick Lindgren
Victor Ramdin
Phil Ivey
John Juanda
Jen Harman (female)
Not that this is part of the pool but I'm fading Hellmuth and Gus Hanson.
Chubby
06-26-2006, 04:21 PM
Daniel Negreanu (ME winner)
Phil Gordon (non-bracelet)
Chlone Gowen (I have no idea how to spell her name) (female)
Greg Raymer
Phil Hellmuth
Doyle Brunson
Dan Harrington
Phil Ivey
Erik Seidel
Mike Matesow
yes I suck at spelling names and I'm not looking them up :p
Honolulu Blue
06-26-2006, 04:48 PM
I suck at spelling names and I'm not looking them up :p
Not bad. It's Clonie Gowen, and Mike Matusow. The others are correct.
No need for me to look them up; how sad is that?
Chubby
06-26-2006, 04:51 PM
Not bad. It's Clonie Gowen, and Mike Matusow. The others are correct.
No need for me to look them up; how sad is that?
Heh, that's them tho :)
AnalBumCover
06-26-2006, 06:03 PM
The Asian Invasion:
Tuan Le (ME Winner)
Liz Lieu (Woman)
Nam Le (No Bracelet)
John Phan
Men Nguyen
Scotty Nguyen
John Juanda
Evelyn Ng
Johnny Chan
David Pham
JonInMiddleGA
06-26-2006, 06:12 PM
TJ Cloutier (Main Event)
Phil Ivey
Phil Laak
Phil Hellmuth
Michael Mizrachi (non-bracelet)
Annie Duke
Scotty Nguyen
Chris Ferguson
Marcel Luske
Jennifer Tillly (female)
Chubby
06-26-2006, 06:14 PM
I think I won this last year. Still waiting for my prize! :p
TazFTW
06-26-2006, 09:35 PM
Chris Ferguson (ME winner)
Marcel Luske (non-bracelet)
Phil Hellmuth
Men Nguyen
Phil Ivey
Erick Lindgren
Daniel Negreanu
Johnny Chan
Jennifer Harman (woman)
Evelyn Ng (woman)
Tyrith
06-26-2006, 09:48 PM
Phil Gordon (non-braclet)
Jennifer Harman (female)
Phil Ivey
Chris Ferguson
Daniel Negreanu
Ted Forrest (main event winner)
Phil Hellmuth
Greg Raymer
Dan Harrington
John Juanda
TroyF
06-26-2006, 09:48 PM
Chris Ferguson
Phil Ivey
Men Nguyen
Daniel Negreanu
Jennifer Harmon (Female)
Michael Mizrachi (non bracelet)
Dan Harrington
Todd Brunson (ME)
Phil Helmuth
Gus Hansen
Lathum
06-26-2006, 10:50 PM
Phil Ivey-ME
Phil Gordon- no braclet
Annie Duke
Greg Raymer
Dan Harrington
Men the Master
Josh Arieh
Mike Matasuw
Daniel Negranue
Chris Ferguson
Vegas Vic
06-26-2006, 10:53 PM
LOL at the Evelyn Ng predictions.
If ever there was a manufactured superstar, she fits the bill. She got a freeroll into the six-player inaugural WPT Ladies Night, even though she had zero career cashes at the time. After factoring in the buy-in fees, she was actually in the red for her tournament career before recently cashing in a WPT event. So, after several hundred tournaments, she's slighty ahead right now.
JonInMiddleGA
06-26-2006, 11:14 PM
LOL at the Evelyn Ng predictions.
If ever there was a manufactured superstar, she fits the bill. She got a freeroll into the six-player inaugural WPT Ladies Night, even though she had zero career cashes at the time. After factoring in the buy-in fees, she was actually in the red for her tournament career before recently cashing in a WPT event. So, after several hundred tournaments, she's slighty ahead right now.
Y'know, if you get really bored or something, maybe you ought to handicap the various FOFC predictions once this thing gets close to rolling. Provide us with a VegasVic line if you will, based on the various poster's selections.
timmynausea
06-26-2006, 11:16 PM
Y'know, if you get really bored or something, maybe you ought to handicap the various FOFC predictions once this thing gets close to rolling. Provide us with a VegasVic line if you will, based on the various poster's selections.
That'd be sweet.
Vegas Vic
06-26-2006, 11:39 PM
Y'know, if you get really bored or something, maybe you ought to handicap the various FOFC predictions once this thing gets close to rolling. Provide us with a VegasVic line if you will, based on the various poster's selections.
It wouldn't be very accurate, as I'm mainly a cash game player. I do know that Ng is outmatched in anything over a 40/80 B&M limit holdem game. She's been run over numerous times at the Bellagio, and this is coming from several different reliable players over many sessions.
If QuikSand plays in the main event, he's a favorite over Evelyn Ng. Could she get lucky? Absolutely. Look at Robert Varkoni. But Quik is still favored over Ng.
Vegas Vic
06-26-2006, 11:59 PM
Dustin "Neverwin" Woolf
Cliff "JohnnyBax" Josephy
David Williams (non-bracelet)
Liz Lieu (woman)
Alan Goehring (winner)
Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken
Michael Mizrachi
Daniel Negraneau
Gavin Smith
Chris "Jesus" Ferguson
Dola,
That's quite a few online players, there, Subby. No love for Professor77 or tuff_fish (http://www.fstln.com/pokerhands/fri6-9/fri6-9.html)? (Audio NSFW, profanity)
JonInMiddleGA
06-27-2006, 12:01 AM
It wouldn't be very accurate
Accurate schmaccurate.
It'd give us something to brag/argue/bitch about ;)
larrymcg421
06-27-2006, 12:51 AM
Gus Hansen (ME, non-bracelet)
Phil Ivey
John Juanda
Howard Lederer
Phil Hellmuth
John Hennigan
Annie Duke (female, despite what Negreanu says)
Jennifer Harman (My favorite player after reading Professor, Banker, Suicide King)
Doyle Brunson
Chris Ferguson
larrymcg421
06-29-2006, 12:54 AM
bumping this as deadline nears
Desmond
06-29-2006, 01:00 AM
Mark Seif
Daniel Negreanu (ME Winner)
Phil Ivey
Marcel Luske (non-bracelet winner)
Chris Ferguson
John Juanda
Dan Harrington
Jennifer Tilly (Woman)
Howard Lederer
Johnny Chan
rockboy70
06-29-2006, 09:42 AM
Phil Ivey (ME winner)
Howard Lederer
Phil Hellmuth
Michael Mizrachi (non-bracelet)
Chris Ferguson
Kathy Liebert (female)
Daniel Negreanu
John Juanda
Ted Forrest
Todd Brunson
kcchief19
06-29-2006, 10:04 AM
Howard Lederer (main even winner)
Phil Hellmuth
Johnny Chan
Doyle Brunson
Daniel Negraneau
Carlos Mortenson
Phil Ivey
Tuan Le (non-bracelet winner)
Cyndy Violette (female)
Erik Seidel
I'm hoping that the old guard continues their trend from last year of trying to keep up with the Joneses on winning bracelets. TJ Cloutier was off my list on the bubble.
larrymcg421
06-30-2006, 01:43 AM
Event #2 Results - $1,500 NL Hold-em
Here's a list of FOFC picks that scored
Carlos Mortenson 71.617
Jennifer Harman 51.155
Phil Gordon 9.094
Erik Seidel 9.094
Tuan Le 7.578
Greg Raymer 7.578
Phil Hellmuth 7.578
Clonie Gowen 2.274
Humberto Brenes 2.274
Devilfish, Paul Darden, and Isabelle Mercier cashed but were not picked by any FOFC'ers
And here's the current leaderboard:
Vegas Vic 122.772
kcchief19 95.867
Tyrith 75.405
larrymcg421 58.733
TazFTW 58.733
TroyF 58.733
Jas_lov 51.155
hoopsguy 51.155
Chubby 35.618
timmynausea 18.188
Honolulu Blue 17.43
Barkeep49 16.672
Lathum 16.672
Maple Leafs 9.094
Radii 9.094
albionmoonlight 7.578
JonInMiddleGA 7.578
rockboy70 7.578
sabotai 7.578
AnalBumCover 0
Desmond 0
digamma 0
dixieflatline 0
QuikSand 0
Subby 0
Subby
06-30-2006, 09:57 AM
Is that Clonie Gowen's first ever cash? :D
timmynausea
06-30-2006, 10:31 AM
I'm pretty sure Erik Seidel cashed. A couple of us have him.
Just checked it: Seidel got $9094.
larrymcg421
06-30-2006, 11:46 AM
Edited to fix some mistakes. PLease continue to let me know if I miss one of your guys. With so many people in the pool this year, it's bound to happen again.
Vegas Vic
06-30-2006, 12:21 PM
Is that Clonie Gowen's first ever cash? :D
Clonie Gowen (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=21433) is actually well ahead of Evelyn Ng in career winnings, although neither of them deserves 1/1000000th of the publicity they get.
At least Clonie had actually cashed in an event before she was selected to play in the WPT Ladies Night Freeroll. Evelyn Ng's only accomplishment at that point was that she was dating Daniel Negreanu, who used his connections to get her a seat in the six player freeroll. ;)
Jas_lov
06-30-2006, 12:24 PM
Phil Ivey is currently 3rd in the $1500 limit holdem event with 69 players left, so expect a big cash from him for all of those who have him. Phil Gordon is 16th in that same event.
John Juanda is 5th in the $1500 pot limit holdem event with 9 players left.
Those are the only ones left I think people would have taken in the events currently running. The $2500 NLHE shorthanded event begins today.
timmynausea
06-30-2006, 12:27 PM
I almost went with Jennifer Harman, but I figured almost everyone would take her so I went for Tilly to get someone different. That might've been a mistake. I think the only guy I have that noone else has is Freddy Deeb.
larrymcg421
06-30-2006, 12:44 PM
Clonie Gowen (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=21433) is actually well ahead of Evelyn Ng in career winnings, although neither of them deserves 1/1000000th of the publicity they get.
At least Clonie had actually cashed in an event before she was selected to play in the WPT Ladies Night Freeroll. Evelyn Ng's only accomplishment at that point was that she was dating Daniel Negreanu, who used his connections to get her a seat in the six player freeroll. ;)
Ha! That is very amusing to read, especially in light of all of Negreanu's whining about how Annie Duke did not deserve to be in the $2 million single table freeroll TOC event.
Subby
06-30-2006, 12:45 PM
I picked the wrong Internet guy as rizen (Eric Lynch) is the chipleader at the 1500 PLHE final table. That guy is money.
larrymcg421
06-30-2006, 12:45 PM
FWIW, I simply went for people that I knew would play a ton of events, except for my ME pick Gus Hansen.
hoopsguy
06-30-2006, 12:46 PM
Heh, was just looking at your Internet guys to see if Rizen was on the list.
larrymcg421
06-30-2006, 12:46 PM
I was really surprised that none of us picked Devilfish.
Barkeep49
06-30-2006, 01:21 PM
I was really surprised that none of us picked Devilfish.
I agree. I think we might have missed out on our collective wisdom there, as to be honest, he wasn't a player I had even considered and afterwards I felt stupid about it.
timmynausea
06-30-2006, 02:53 PM
I'm pretty sure several people had Devilfish last year.
kcchief19
06-30-2006, 09:58 PM
Event #2 Results - $1,500 NL Hold-em
Here's a list of FOFC picks that scored
Carlos Mortenson 71.617
Jennifer Harman 51.155
Phil Gordon 9.094
Erik Seidel 9.094
Greg Raymer 7.578
Phil Hellmuth 7.578
Clonie Gowen 2.274
Humberto Brenes 2.274
Devilfish, Paul Darden, and Isabelle Mercier cashed but were not picked by any FOFC'ers
Larry, I think another of my picks cashed in that event -- Tuan Le went out 75th with $7,578.
This is a tremendous undertaking -- I appreciate you putting this together. If you need help tracking or doublechecking results, let me know. I'd be glad to pitch in.
kcchief19
06-30-2006, 10:03 PM
The $2,500 NL six-handed event is going to post some point totals. I think everyone of my picks played in it, although six are already out. But my remaining four are in the top 33 chips.
Jas_lov
06-30-2006, 10:52 PM
The $2,500 NL six-handed event is going to post some point totals. I think everyone of my picks played in it, although six are already out. But my remaining four are in the top 33 chips.
Just looked at the live updates and Daniel Negranu is a big chip leader with $30,000 more than 2nd place. Doyle Brunson was just eliminated a couple spots out of the money, but the leaderboard is impressive with Dutch Boyd 3rd, Gavin Smith 6th, Dustin Woolf 10th, John Hennigan and Joe Hachem 14th, Mike Matusow and Patrick Antonious 16th, and it goes on and on with big names still in it. This will definitely be a big one for everyone.
kcchief19
06-30-2006, 11:03 PM
Yeah, Negreanu is rolling. Some other names took some hits, but it looks like a real lively tournament.
larrymcg421
06-30-2006, 11:53 PM
Ugh. Not a fan of Negreanu.
Jas_lov
07-01-2006, 12:16 AM
Yeah I'm not too big a fan of Negreanu either. How about Mike Matusow climbing up to 10th in the chip count. I should have picked him because he's so hot right now at the WSOP with a 1st at last years TOC, 3rd at this years, and 9th in the main event. Erick Lindgren has climbed up to the top 5 along with Negreanu and Gavin Smith.
At the $1500 Limit event the only name left I recognize is Josh Schlein or SDouble as he is known online, but I dont think anyone on here picked him.
larrymcg421
07-01-2006, 05:37 AM
Larry, I think another of my picks cashed in that event -- Tuan Le went out 75th with $7,578.
This is a tremendous undertaking -- I appreciate you putting this together. If you need help tracking or doublechecking results, let me know. I'd be glad to pitch in.
Fixed!
I'll let you know if I need some help. I've got a good spreadsheet set up to take care of this. I just have to get used to the players people have selected, so I don't skip over them like I did yours.
kcchief19
07-01-2006, 11:53 AM
I probably overlooked some, but these are the pool players I found in event No. 3, the $1,500 pot limit event.
John Juanda 37.606
Victor Ramdin 9.777
Chris Ferguson 3.761
Erick Lindgren 2.256
kcchief19
07-01-2006, 12:00 PM
Final table set in event No. 4, the $1,500 limit hold 'em. Mostly journeyman players and rookis, it appears. Phil Ivey was the top scorer going out 21 -- that should be good for 9.476. CardPlayer hasn't posted the official winnings yet, just the payout structure and the log update of chip counts.
hoopsguy
07-02-2006, 08:32 PM
Final two in the short-hand event: Hachem vs Dutch Boyd.
Jas_lov
07-03-2006, 12:17 AM
Dutch had almost a 6-1 chip lead when heads up began and Joe battled back to a 1.4 million to 600,000 chip defecit, then they got all of their chips in the middle, Joe had AQ and Dutch had A5 and a 5 on the river sealed the win for Dutch. This is a good showing for Joe Hachem to show he wasn't just that guy who got lucky. I think he also had a final table finish at a circuit event earlier this year.
Whoever picked Carlos Mortensen made a very good pick because he's chip leader in the $2,000 limit event. Could be another final table for him.
larrymcg421
07-03-2006, 12:26 AM
Ugh. I don't think anyone wanted Dutch Boyd to win.
Jas_lov
07-03-2006, 12:38 AM
Maybe Dutch will use the money to pay back the people he stole from when his online poker business pokerspot.com started to go under? If he doesn't, then everyone will think even less of him if that's possible.
larrymcg421
07-03-2006, 12:53 AM
Maybe Dutch will use the money to pay back the people he stole from when his online poker business pokerspot.com started to go under? If he doesn't, then everyone will think even less of him if that's possible.
It's not possible and I doubt he will do it.
Barkeep49
07-03-2006, 08:41 AM
I miss out on all the good poker news. Didn't know about this. Didn't know about ZeeJustin. It's sad.
kcchief19
07-03-2006, 10:01 AM
Carlos Mortensen does make his second final table thus far, although he is the shortstack. Analbumcover's Asian strategy also is paying off, this time with Nam Le at the final table.
Jas_lov
07-05-2006, 12:13 AM
The Omaha High Low 8 or Better Tourney is down to the final nine with the biggest name left being Daniel Negreanu in 3rd chip position. He's having a good series thus far. Huck Seed was knocked out 11th. Andy Bloch, Sean Sheikan, and John Juanda all cashed.
The No Limit Holdem 5,000 buy in has a ton of big names out of the 180 left that began with more than 600 people. Phil Hellmuth Jr. is deep in a tournament once again and is currently 3rd in chips behind chip leader Jean Robert Bellande. Scotty Ngyuen is 4th, Hung La 6th, Dustin Woolf 9th, Michael Mizrachi 13th, Minh Ngyuen 19th, Marcel Luske 20th, Sammy Farha, Nick Shulman, and Jennifer Harman are all still alive as well and the top 63 cash. Fan favorite Dutch Boyd was just eliminated.
Barkeep49
07-05-2006, 12:26 AM
I didn't do this last year so how often should we expect leaderboard updates? No pressure here, just want to know what to expect.
larrymcg421
07-05-2006, 01:28 AM
I didn't do this last year so how often should we expect leaderboard updates? No pressure here, just want to know what to expect.
I'm putting one together at the moment.
larrymcg421
07-05-2006, 02:11 AM
As always, please let me know if I missed one of your guys...
Event #3 - $1,500 Pot Limit Hold'Em
John Juanda 37.606
Victor Ramdin 9.777
Michael Mizrachi 4.513
Chris Ferguson 3.761
Erick Lindgren 2.256
larrymcg421
07-05-2006, 02:34 AM
Event #4 - $1,500 Limit Hold'Em
Phil Ivey 9.476
Phil Gordon 5.831
Event #5 - $2,500 NL 6 Handed
Daniel Negreanu - 38.852
Gavin Smith - 23.690
Freddy Deeb - 9.476
Kathy Liebert - 9.476
Mike Matusow - 8.528
John Hennigan - 6.633
Cyndy Violette - 6.633
Barry Greenstein - 3.790
Event #6 - $2,000 NL Hold Em
Nam Le - 401.647
Carlos Mortenson - 73.344
Minh Nguyen - 12.224
Humberto Brenes - 5.239
Johnny Chan - 5.239
Scott Fischman - 5.239
John D'Agostino - 2.794
Event #7 - $3,000 Limit Hold Em
Phil Hellmuth - 10.309
John Phan - 5.727
larrymcg421
07-05-2006, 02:52 AM
And here is your current leaderboard:
dixieflatline 539.397
AnalBumCover 457.797
Vegas Vic 297.913
kcchief19 239.72
Tyrith 181.24
Maple Leafs 137.951
Jas_lov 134.528
hoopsguy 133.518
TazFTW 128.626
larrymcg421 126.518
TroyF 125.644
Honolulu Blue 122.673
rockboy70 121.571
QuikSand 109.324
Chubby 108.614
Desmond 94.934
Barkeep49 93.79
digamma 86.954
Lathum 83.12
Radii 76.119
sabotai 71.539
Subby 70.816
timmynausea 54.739
JonInMiddleGA 35.637
albionmoonlight 17.972
TazFTW
07-05-2006, 03:10 AM
And here is your current leaderboard:
dixieflatline 539.397
AnalBumCover 457.797
Vegas Vic 297.913
kcchief19 239.72
Tyrith 181.24
Maple Leafs 137.951
Jas_lov 134.528
hoopsguy 133.518
TazFTW 128.626
larrymcg421 126.518
TroyF 125.644
Honolulu Blue 122.673
rockboy70 121.571
QuikSand 109.324
Chubby 108.614
Desmond 94.934
Barkeep49 93.79
digamma 86.954
Lathum 83.12
Radii 76.119
sabotai 71.539
Subby 70.816
TazFTW 49.29
JonInMiddleGA 35.637
albionmoonlight 17.972
I'm listed twice. The first leaderboard had me at 58.73, so the second 'Taz' has to be someone else.
larrymcg421
07-05-2006, 03:24 AM
argh.
Thanks. Looking this over.
larrymcg421
07-05-2006, 03:26 AM
Fixed. It was timmynausea and I had his formula calculated incorrectly so he has a few more pts.
Subby
07-05-2006, 07:54 AM
Allen Cunningham cashed in event #4 for $1750 (I don't have him, but a few others do)
Subby
07-05-2006, 07:58 AM
Joe Sebok cashed in event 5 for $3790 (digamma has him)
Subby
07-05-2006, 08:04 AM
Jen Harman cashed for $8731 and Cyndi Violette cashed for $6985 in event #6
Subby
07-05-2006, 08:08 AM
Darrel Dicken cashed for $5727 in event #7
Honolulu Blue
07-05-2006, 08:15 AM
Middle of the pack so far. Not bad, but I figure that either the ME or HORSE is going to determine the winner here. Final tabling the former or winning the latter should be more than enough.
ESPN favorite and online poker whipping boy Dutch Boyd was just eliminated.
I fixed your post. You're welcome.
timmynausea
07-05-2006, 10:54 AM
Nevermind.
kcchief19
07-05-2006, 11:18 AM
Nam Le is the MVP thus far. That 2nd place in the $2k HE is the big win by any our players thus far.
Kid Poker has made the final table at Omaha and is in third position in chips. In the $5k NL HE, Phil Hellmuth is in third position and could be poised for big payday with the field down to 59 players. He's apparently been abusing Jean-Robert Bellande. Gee, who do you root for there?
Also alive and kicking in that tourney is crowd favorite Marcel Luske, as well as poker celebrities Isabelle Mercier and Rene Agellil, better known as Mr. Celine Dion.
sabotai
07-05-2006, 05:41 PM
In the $5k NL HE, Phil Hellmuth is in third position and could be poised for big payday with the field down to 59 players. He's apparently been abusing Jean-Robert Bellande. Gee, who do you root for there?
Easy, Bellande. :)
Also alive and kicking in that tourney is crowd favorite Marcel Luske, as well as poker celebrities Isabelle Mercier and Rene Agellil, better known as Mr. Celine Dion.
Marcel Luske!! WOOO!!!
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 01:08 AM
Isabelle Mercier is hot! I saw her kick ass on one of the Ladies Night events. Mmmmmm.
Jas_lov
07-06-2006, 02:03 AM
Phil Hellmuth has made the final table and is 2nd in chips in the $5,000 NL. Marcel Luske is 3rd, Isabelle Mercier 5th, all chasing chip leader Vinny Vinh. This is not scheduled to be taped and air on ESPN, but I hope ESPN does make special arrangements to tape it like they did last year with Johnny Chan's 10th bracelet win. With 2 of the more entertaining pros and a fairly attractive female pro I think it would be an amazing table to watch especially if Hellmuth gets heads up with Luske and loses.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 02:49 AM
Phil Hellmuth has made the final table and is 2nd in chips in the $5,000 NL. Marcel Luske is 3rd, Isabelle Mercier 5th, all chasing chip leader Vinny Vinh. This is not scheduled to be taped and air on ESPN, but I hope ESPN does make special arrangements to tape it like they did last year with Johnny Chan's 10th bracelet win. With 2 of the more entertaining pros and a fairly attractive female pro I think it would be an amazing table to watch especially if Hellmuth gets heads up with Luske and loses.
Can you imagine the blowup if Hellmuth, desperate for his 10th bracelet, finishes 2nd after getting sucked out on? They HAVE to tape this. He'll win his 10 bracelet or there will be a fantastic blowup. Either way, it would be embarassing for them to miss it.
kcchief19
07-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Yeah, this is the kind of table that ESPN needs to say screw it and cover it anyway and drop something else. I can't understand why it wasn't schedule anyway ... $5k NL HE you know is going to draw a premiere field and have a good group. With Phil going for No. 10, crazy Marcel Luske and the hottie mchot hot Isabelle Mercier, this is crying out for coverage.
kcchief19
07-06-2006, 02:18 PM
Of course, even better is that Johnny Chan is in the hunt in the seven-card stud tourney ... can you imagine how Phil will flip if he gets No. 10 to tie Chan and Brunson and then the next day Chan gets No. 11? If Chan wins it, it would also be the second time he's won that bracelet.
The $1.5k limit hold 'em event starts today, and that looks like a real glamour field. Should be some pool points there.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 06:29 PM
Current chip counts. Check out those top three:
Marcel Luske $820,000
Phil Hellmuth $590,000
Isabelle Mercier $410,000
Gene Todd $390,000
Jeff Cabanillas $305,000
Vinnie Vinh $225,000
Doug Carli $177,000
Tom Schreiber $165,000
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 06:48 PM
Hellmuth just knocked out Vinh (who really bled his chips today), so he's probably pretty close to Luske now. Also, Carli knocked out by Cabanillas.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 06:55 PM
Another update:
Phil Hellmuth $990,000
Marcel Luske $719,000
Isabelle Mercier $557,000
Gene Todd $311,000
Jeff Cabanillas $302,000
Tom Schreiber $95,000
I really hope they filmed this.
Jas_lov
07-06-2006, 07:09 PM
Good news from pokerwire.com....
ESPN Shows Up for the "Little Big One"
No Limit Hold'em
Jul 06, 2006 / 17:20:00 EDT
This event ($5,000 No-Limit Hold'em) wasn't on ESPN's original schedule, but once they found out Phil Hellmuth would be going for his record-tying tenth bracelet against Vinnie Vinh, Marcel Luske, and Isabelle Mercier, they made things happen.
It's not a full crew, but a skeleton crew. But if history happens, you'll be able to see it on ESPN. And George, the guy who operates the hole cams, was also present. So we should get complete coverage as well.
Play should be underway before too long. Vinnie Vinh starts as the chip leader with 784K, followed by Hellmuth (461K), Marcel Luske (458K), and Isabelle Mercier (301K).
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 08:04 PM
This is pretty impressive from Hellmuth:
Hellmuth Takes a Monster Pot Off of Mercier
After the river card is dealt, Isabelle Mercier bets $100,000 and Phil Hellmuth makes the call. Mercier immediately mucks her hand and Hellmuth turns over king high to rake a huge pot. Mercier is down to around $140,000 chips.
kcchief19
07-06-2006, 08:14 PM
Mercier just went out fifth. Hellmuth has the chip lead and Luske is now the shortstack. Glad to see ESPN got on it.
kcchief19
07-06-2006, 08:18 PM
The seven-card stud final table is just about set. Looks like it could have Johnny Chan, David Williams, Miami John Cernutto. John Hoang is the chip leader.
TroyF
07-06-2006, 08:28 PM
This is pretty impressive from Hellmuth:
Hellmuth's reading ability just amazes me most of the time. He's such a whiny, pathetic bastard and you want to see him bust out first every tournament. But I remember one of the WSOP he did on ESPN before the hole cards. The guy was freakin unbelievable at predicting what others had.
Jas_lov
07-06-2006, 08:31 PM
Here's another one...
Gene Todd Gets Hellmuth
Phil Hellmuth raises to $75,000 preflop. Eugene Todd reraises to $220,000 total. Hellmuth asks Todd, "Are you trying to donk off your stack with ace jack?". Hellmuth proceeds to fold and shows A-Q. Todd just grins as he flips over A-J. Hellmuth, of course, jumps up from the table in disbelief.
Hellmuth has a 2 to 1 chip lead over 2nd place, Eugene Todd with 4 left.
primelord
07-06-2006, 09:08 PM
Hellmuth's reading ability just amazes me most of the time. He's such a whiny, pathetic bastard and you want to see him bust out first every tournament. But I remember one of the WSOP he did on ESPN before the hole cards. The guy was freakin unbelievable at predicting what others had.
Keep in mind that the hands where he is successfully calling out his opponents hands etc are also highly likely to be shown on TV because they are interesting. I am not saying he doesn't read people well, but his own non stop bragging about his ability to read opponents and the fact that ESPN is likely cutting out the hands where he is making claims about his opponents hands and his wrong probably make him seem better than he is.
TroyF
07-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Keep in mind that the hands where he is successfully calling out his opponents hands etc are also highly likely to be shown on TV because they are interesting. I am not saying he doesn't read people well, but his own non stop bragging about his ability to read opponents and the fact that ESPN is likely cutting out the hands where he is making claims about his opponents hands and his wrong probably make him seem better than he is.
Maybe so, maybe so. Still, if I had to think about the top 7 or 8 reads I've ever seen on TV, he'd have over half of em. It's a shame he has to be such an ass. I'd LOVE to cheer for the guy. As it is, I find him to be like Bonds. Amazing and interesting to watch. . . and I hope he gets his ass kicked everytime he sits down at the table.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 09:25 PM
Hellmuth is indeed very good at reading, but this is one of the best reads I've seen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEfLXr3eSxs
Jas_lov
07-06-2006, 09:44 PM
Now I'm actually reading on the 2+2 forums that people who are listening to the Siruis Satellite Radio live broadcast say that the commentators are reporting ESPN is nowhere to be found. This would obviously be their second big mistake if this is the case, the first being not choosing to show this one in the first place being a $5,000 buy in. This has to the best table as far as big names go so far and might be as good as it gets the whole series. I think they showed this one last year and T.J. Cloutier won it, then they cut back their coverage this year and for some reason cut this one. I hope pokerwire is right and the Sirius commentators just aren't noticing ESPN, but how hard is it to see a camera and lights set up?
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 10:27 PM
Cabanillas just knocked out Eugene Todd so it's now heads up. The last chip count had Hellmuth with $1.35 million to Cabanillas $1.20, so it's likely that Cabanillas now has the lead.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 10:28 PM
And here it is:
Jeff Cabanillas $1,650,000
Phil Hellmuth $1,500,000
I'm actually rooting for Phil.
kcchief19
07-06-2006, 10:28 PM
Keep in mind that the hands where he is successfully calling out his opponents hands etc are also highly likely to be shown on TV because they are interesting. I am not saying he doesn't read people well, but his own non stop bragging about his ability to read opponents and the fact that ESPN is likely cutting out the hands where he is making claims about his opponents hands and his wrong probably make him seem better than he is.
Bingo!
Cabanillas Bluffs Hellmuth Out of a Pot
On a board of Qhttp://cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gifJhttp://cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif9http://cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif7http://cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/club.gif6http://cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif and over $400,000 already in the pot, Jeff Cabanillas moves all in. Hellmuth thinks for a few moments before mucking his hand. Cabanillas turns over A-K and Hellmuth knocks his chair over as he stands up in shock. The Cabanillas supporters in the crowd go wild and erupt in support, causing everyone in the Amazon Room to look over at the final table.
Yes, it does look Cabanillas has the chip lead over Hellmuth heads up.
kcchief19
07-06-2006, 10:29 PM
And here it is:
Jeff Cabanillas $1,650,000
Phil Hellmuth $1,500,000
I'm actually rooting for Phil.
I am too. Then again, we both have him in the pool ... :)
kingfc22
07-06-2006, 10:30 PM
where are you guys getting these reports?
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 10:31 PM
Almost 400 pts are at stake whether Phil finishes 1st or 2nd.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 10:31 PM
http://www.cardplayer.com/tournaments/live_updates/3198
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 10:54 PM
Hellmuth took the chip lead back. He's up 1.6 to 1.5.
kingfc22
07-06-2006, 11:01 PM
Cabanillas just rivered a set of Kings to beat Hellmuth's two pair.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 11:04 PM
Ouch. That damn K might have cost me 400 pts.
sabotai
07-06-2006, 11:17 PM
Hellmuth is indeed very good at reading, but this is one of the best reads I've seen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEfLXr3eSxs
Phil Ivey. Now there's a poker player to admire.
kingfc22
07-06-2006, 11:28 PM
I can only imagine what Phil is saying after losing to pocket Kings again.
larrymcg421
07-06-2006, 11:53 PM
I think that 15 min break came at a great time for him. Probably allowed him to calm down. He has now fought back to retake the chip lead.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 12:11 AM
Phil is on a roll.
The updated chip count is:
Phil Hellmuth $2,000,000
Jeff Cabanillas $1,100,000
Jas_lov
07-07-2006, 12:36 AM
Phil is now up 2.1 million to 1 million. It's so close he can taste it. At 2+2 they are listening to it live on sirius and saying that Jeff is playing small pots with Phil which is exactly what he wants. The way to beat Phil is to bet big and put pressure on him which is why Hoyt Corkins owns Phil Hellmuth.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 12:48 AM
Right now, I'd be moving in on Phil with almost any two cards.
sabotai
07-07-2006, 12:59 AM
Thu Jul 06 22:50:00 PDT 2006
Updated Chip Count
The updated chip count is:
Phil Hellmuth $1,600,000
Jeff Cabanillas $1,500,000
Almost even again.
kingfc22
07-07-2006, 01:11 AM
Jeff Cabanillas bets $100,000 preflop and Phil Hellmuth makes the call. Both players check the Khttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gifJhttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/club.gif4http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif flop. Hellmuth bets $150,000 after the 6http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/spade.gif comes on the turn. Cabanillas calls again and the 5http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif lands on the river. After a Hellmuth check, Cabanillas flips up the Ahttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/club.gif5http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif, giving him a pair of fives. Hellmuth mucks his cards, jumps up, and tells Kenna James, sitting at the Bluff Radio booth, "That's the hand I'm supposed to bust him!"
What is Phil talking about if he couldn't even beat a pair of 5's? Was he playing pocket 3's or was he just pushing with AQ the whole way?
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 01:13 AM
He flashed a 4, so he had bottom pair. I don't think Phil would be as upset if the guy had K-9 or J-10 or something. But A-5 with the way the betting had gone doesn't make sense for Cabanillas to take that to the river.
Jas_lov
07-07-2006, 01:18 AM
Jeff just won an 800k pot with A6 hitting two pair. Edit: It's 1.8 million for Jeff and 1.3 for Phil. On the A6 hand Phil had a good enough hand to reraise and Jeff just called it so he may have missed a big chance to bust Phil.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 01:20 AM
On Two Plus Two, theyre saying its 1.8-1.2
Jas_lov
07-07-2006, 01:23 AM
Yes, I'm getting all my info from 2+2 who seem to be a little bit faster getting updates posted than cardplayer is. It's 1.8ish to 1.2-1.3ish.
Jas_lov
07-07-2006, 01:50 AM
It appears Phil is down to 400k and the dream is almost over...
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 02:04 AM
He was crippled down to $300k but rivered a flush to stay alive. Still in a bad situation. I actually feel really bad for Phil. Cabanillas has played like crap and does not deserve to win at all.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 02:08 AM
Phil is back up to $1.1 million, btw.
Jas_lov
07-07-2006, 02:11 AM
From what cardplayer and 2+2 are saying he has many a chance to bust Phil and has just called with big hands that are big playing normal handed let alone heads up. I agree he does not deserve to win and I'm actually rooting for Phil now.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 02:30 AM
It's all over. Phil had 4-5 off and Jeff had 3-5d. Phil made trip four's. Jeff rivered a flush.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 06:56 AM
I'm sure I'm missing some names from these events, so please let me know. I have added all the points that I previously missed.
Event #8 - $2,000 Omaha HiLo 8orB
Daniel Negreanu - 48.776
John Juanda - 4.268
Event #9 - $5,000 NLHE
Phil Hellmuth - 423.893
Marcel Luske - 204.638
Dustin Woolf - 10.232
Michael Mizrachi - 4.385
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 07:00 AM
Taz, Honolulu, and Jon all shot right up the leaderboard with the combo of Phil Hellmuth and Marcel Luske. Here it is:
TazFTW 814.664
Honolulu Blue 804.428
kcchief19 719.374
JonInMiddleGA 668.553
Tyrith 666.908
TroyF 611.429
rockboy70 602.893
Chubby 581.283
Barkeep49 575.194
larrymcg421 563.41
dixieflatline 552.396
AnalBumCover 462.065
Vegas Vic 364.073
Desmond 352.616
sabotai 326.703
Maple Leafs 202.365
hoopsguy 192.775
QuikSand 175.488
Jas_lov 147.527
digamma 143.905
Radii 136.757
Subby 134.209
Lathum 131.896
timmynausea 54.739
albionmoonlight 24.957
Subby
07-07-2006, 08:09 AM
Yikes - what a terrible start for Team Subby. At least I have David Williams at the stud final table and Gavin Smith as the chipleader for Omaha 8...
timmynausea
07-07-2006, 12:01 PM
My team is really sucking, too.
Barkeep49
07-07-2006, 12:06 PM
Well has already been mentioned, in many ways it matters less how your team does here then how it does in the HORSE tourney, since presumably that will have "name" players win 80%, or more, of the prize money, which could easily be 5 million dollars.
larrymcg421
07-07-2006, 12:20 PM
Plus, you always have a chance to win with your ME pick.
Subby
07-07-2006, 05:54 PM
doh!
Leonidas' and Seed's Aces Cracked
With three players all-in before the flop, Toto Leonidas and Huck Seed both flip over pocket Aces. The third player, who has them both covered, has pocket Kings. The flop comes K club4heart 2diamond - both Seed and Leonidas draw dead to the river. They are eliminated in one of the strangest hands at this year's World Series.
kingfc22
07-07-2006, 06:04 PM
doh!
Ouch.
kingfc22
07-07-2006, 06:17 PM
The $5k Omaha High-Low event is down to 21.
Gavin Smith and Sam Farha are 1-2 in chips. Ivey is 10th and Ferguson is 16th.
digamma
07-07-2006, 06:51 PM
The $5k Omaha High-Low event is down to 21.
Gavin Smith and Sam Farha are 1-2 in chips. Ivey is 10th and Ferguson is 16th.
You might be looking at an old chip count. Smith busted out in 21st or 22nd. They're now down to 18.
larrymcg421
07-08-2006, 05:54 AM
I think Phil Ivey is going to make this "10 bracelet" record look like nothing. He already has five and didn't win his first until 2000.
Honolulu Blue
07-08-2006, 06:54 AM
I think Phil Ivey is going to make this "10 bracelet" record look like nothing. He already has five and didn't win his first until 2000.
He might do that, but #6 is going to have to wait another day. Sammy Farha outdueled him (http://www.cardplayer.com/tournaments/live_updates/3201/10210) for tonight's bracelet in Omaha 8/b.:) I knew he could do it. Now, if we could get Layne Flack started, then everyone on Team HB will have cashed.
In other news, I think that puts me in first place. It won't last, but it's nice anyway.
P.S. David Williams won his first bracelet at 7 Stud. Nice job, David. Nice pick, Subby.
larrymcg421
07-08-2006, 07:43 AM
Event 10 - $1,500 Seven Card Stud
David Williams - 163.118
Johnny Chan - 22.836
John Hennigan - 5.220
Humberto Brenes - 5.220
Event 11 - $5,000 Omaha HiLo
Sam Farha 398.560
Phil Ivey 219.280
Chris Ferguson 9.964
Gavin Smith 7.473
New Leaderboard:
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Subby
07-08-2006, 10:34 AM
Yikes - I thought getting a bracelet win from Williams would move us up a bit :\
QuikSand
07-08-2006, 10:37 AM
In future renewals of this, maybe a bonus for bracelets would be in order -- money is simple and intuitive, but it does tend to water down the effects of the lesser events a bit much. Not a strong position here, though. *shurg*
larrymcg421
07-08-2006, 10:48 AM
In future renewals of this, maybe a bonus for bracelets would be in order -- money is simple and intuitive, but it does tend to water down the effects of the lesser events a bit much. Not a strong position here, though. *shurg*
Well I like the money because it rewards you for having guys that do good in bigger events. However, I will award a "bracelets trophy" for whoever ends up with the most bracelets.
Barkeep49
07-08-2006, 11:17 AM
I like this scoring system since it does give a greater reward to bracelet winners but also rewards those who fight through bigger groups. With the intorduction of the HORSE event that could have a disproprionate effect on the end standings, so perhaps we'll want to rethink. But for now I like this system, but it's easier for me to say that of course being higher up in the standings :)
Jas_lov
07-09-2006, 11:55 AM
In the events going on today, Matusow is 4th in chips at the final table in the $2500 NL event if anyone picked him.
The $1,000 NL rebuy event has 66 players left. Victor Ramdin, Miami John Cernuto, Barry Greenstein, Phil Gordon, John Juanda, Ted Forrest, Greg Raymer, and many more notables are still alive.
The first $10,000 buyin starts today which is PL Omaha. This should be another big event for our pool. Expect the usual names to thrive- Phil Ivey, Sam Farha, Robert Williamson, Chau Giang although he's still alive in the 1,000 rebuy. Europeans are generally better at Omaha so they may have good numbers in this event.
Lathum
07-09-2006, 12:50 PM
C'mon Mouth!!!
kcchief19
07-09-2006, 01:22 PM
I've been considering this since Quiksand made the suggestion. I think money is the best overall way to measure success -- my only thought about bracelets I've come up with that I like is that maybe you award double points for a bracelet.
As it is, if you hit a main event finalist you're almost guaranteed a win. Our scoring system doesn't reward bracelets and it definitely favors the bigger money events. Of course, maybe that's part of the strategy -- tyring to pick players who you think might hit one big score.
Of course, we're not alone -- the World Series of Poker Player of the Year Standings make even less sense than our system.
sabotai
07-09-2006, 08:22 PM
56 to go in the $10k Pot Limit Omaha event. A lot of big names are still in it. (Actually less, since the chip count at CardPlayer is 2 hours old)
kcchief19
07-09-2006, 09:43 PM
Are you sure? Their blog posted at 6:50 pm (less than an hour ago) showed they had just started the dinner break and had 108 left. Or is that 56 players until they money?
sabotai
07-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Are you sure? Their blog posted at 6:50 pm (less than an hour ago) showed they had just started the dinner break and had 108 left. Or is that 56 players until they money?
I have no idea anymore. Their Chip Count list had 56 left, but I saw the dinner break entry too. And then the last Chip Count I saw had 62 on it (with the one in 63rd on saying "busted")
kcchief19
07-09-2006, 10:02 PM
Ah. Now I get it. CardPlayer doesn't have or run chip counts for everyone -- I think they focus on the pros and the chip leaders. Up at the very top of their chip counts it lists how many players are remaining in the field. That's usually more than they have chip counts for.
Regardless, I'm somewhat surprised how quickly this field has thinned out. I would have figured with large stacks and top players it would be more disciplined and tighter play. Maybe it's the nature of Omaha, since you're probably going to play more pots.
kcchief19
07-09-2006, 10:08 PM
In the Ladies event, reigning champ Jennifer Tilly justed busted out ... of the tournament. Somewhat surprisingly, a lot of big names are already on the rail. The largest chip count for someone I've heard of is freakin' Mimi Rogers. Kathy Liebert is alive and kicking. Cyndy Violette is out, as are Lady Grinder and Cecillia Mortenson and somone who must be Feddy Deeb's wife.
I saw Annie Duke listed earlier, but now I don't see her on the chip count.
Lots of actresses playing. Shannon Elizabeth's out, but I think Mena Suvari is still in. I think pretty much every woman who has ever appeared on Celebrity Poker Showdown as in the field.
Jas_lov
07-11-2006, 12:28 AM
Allen Cunningham's bracelet win in the $1,000 rebuy event should stir up some points for many. He won $650,000.
The only names I recognize at the final table in the pot limit omaha 10k are Hasan Habib, Lee Watkinson, and Mickey Appleman.
A $1,000 event kicked off today and Gavin Smith is currently 10th, Carlos Mortensen 23rd, and Ted Forrest is barely hanging on in 35th. You can imagine with only $1,000 in starting chips this tournament went by super quick and they may even play down to the final table tonight.
QuikSand
07-11-2006, 11:31 AM
QuikSand (non-bracelet)
Subby
Malificent
Primelord
Cyndy Violette (female)
Chris Ferguson
Scotty Nguyen (ME Winner)
Men Nguyen
Sam Farha
Greg Raymer
It's cool you decided to use a novelty entry for this...
It's even cooler that you're going to get some points for it.
albionmoonlight
07-11-2006, 12:57 PM
It's cool you decided to use a novelty entry for this...
It's even cooler that you're going to get some points for it.
Even cooler for you, I imagine :)
Give 'em hell out there. We are all rooting for you.
Barkeep49
07-11-2006, 01:01 PM
It's cool you decided to use a novelty entry for this...
It's even cooler that you're going to get some points for it.
Yeah it is pretty cool that he's going to get some points off of you. Just imagine if you win the thing; then maybe he'd get some ME points off of you too!
larrymcg421
07-12-2006, 01:21 AM
Event 12 - $1,500 Limit HE
Joe Sebok 4.784
(IS this really it?)
Event 13 - $2,500 NLHE
Mike Matusow 89.010
Erick Lindgren 19.286
Scott Fischman 8.901
Men Nguyen 7.418
Event 14 - $1,000 NLHE Rebuy
Allen Cunningham 625.830
Kenna James 16.225
John Juanda 11.589
Nam Le 11.589
Michael Gracz 11.589
Kathy Liebert 8.113
Phil Gordon 4.636
Humberto Brenes 4.636
Victor Ramdin 4.636
Event 15 - Ladies $1,000 NLHE
No points scored in this event.
larrymcg421
07-12-2006, 01:21 AM
Barkeep49 1454.19
Honolulu Blue 1242.33
sabotai 1190.678
TazFTW 1093.448
hoopsguy 1055.322
QuikSand 1043.776
Radii 991.831
kcchief19 961.49
Tyrith 912.377
JonInMiddleGA 897.797
Chubby 894.209
rockboy70 851.839
TroyF 848.091
dixieflatline 833.667
larrymcg421 809.463
Desmond 616.285
Vegas Vic 614.228
AnalBumCover 515.497
Maple Leafs 464.629
Lathum 462.204
albionmoonlight 440.899
Jas_lov 415.119
digamma 403.256
Subby 314.764
timmynausea 92.175
Honolulu Blue
07-12-2006, 01:40 AM
Thank you for the timely updates, Larry.
Well, the run at the top lasted for two whole days, and I only fell to second. Not bad. Humberto's cashed four times already, and #5 is coming in the event QS dominated. Not too soon, I hope; the last time I checked, he was the #3 chip stack with 18 to go. No, I didn't expect that.
Anyway, HORSE starts today. That one should be stocked with pros - including a good portion of the guys (and gals) we picked. I'm hoping for a big field and a win by one of my horses. It would also help if someone told Mr. Ivey there was a big cash game going on somewhere else.
larrymcg421
07-12-2006, 01:46 AM
Thank you for the timely updates, Larry.
Well, the run at the top lasted for two whole days, and I only fell to second. Not bad. Humberto's cashed four times already, and #5 is coming in the event QS dominated. Not too soon, I hope; the last time I checked, he was the #3 chip stack with 18 to go. No, I didn't expect that.
Anyway, HORSE starts today. That one should be stocked with pros - including a good portion of the guys (and gals) we picked. I'm hoping for a big field and a win by one of my horses. It would also help if someone told Mr. Ivey there was a big cash game going on somewhere else.
Maybe Andy Beal will come back to town...
Honolulu Blue
07-13-2006, 02:00 AM
My horsies in the HORSE tourney (midway through day 1):
Kathy & Humberto - Scratched (didn't play). Humberto, of course, is excused because he was at the final table in another event.
Layne - Pulled up lame near the starting gate and was eased. He's one of the five players that are gone.
Sammy, Marcel, Daniel, and Greg - Way back in the pack. 18k, 19k, 21k and 25k in chips, respectively. The structure is very forgiving, but I prefer having lots of chips to few, and I'm sure they do too.
Phil H. - 46k in chips. Not bad, but not ideal either.
Jesus - 52k in chips. The man can turn water to wine, heal the sick, use a card as a deadly missile, and dance with the best of them. I'm not too worried. Yet.
John J. - 58k in chips. There are too many guys ahead of him, but there's lots of time and lots of chips.
Overall I don't like my position very much and hope the damage can be minimized (go Gabe go! :) You laugh, but he's got more chips than any of my guys). But all of them have pulled off some miracles before, so I'm not writing them off just yet.
larrymcg421
07-13-2006, 05:50 AM
Heh...
"I will run through the Amazon Room buck naked if Phil Hellmuth wins this tournament." - Mike Matusow, about Phil Hellmuth's chances to win the $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. event
"You're now my second-favorite pick to win the tournament." - Greg Raymer to Phil Hellmuth moments later
larrymcg421
07-13-2006, 06:04 AM
All 10 of my picks are still alive in this tourney, but none are higher than 27th (out of 128 remaining).
Annie Duke - 27th place with 81,800
Jennifer Harman - 30th with 79,800
John Juanda - 37th place with 70,500
Phil Ivey - 43rd with 65,000
Chris Ferguson - 45th with 64,100
Phil Hellmuth - 57th with 57,100
Doyle Brunson - 59th with 54,000
John Hennigan - 81st with 41,200
Howard Lederer - 86th with 37,500
Gus Hansen - 94th with 32,500
larrymcg421
07-14-2006, 02:24 AM
With 39 people left in the HORSE event, here are the picked players left, their current chip rank, and who picked them.
Ted Forrest (2nd) - Barkeep49, Jas_lov, Maple Leafs, QuikSand, rockboy70, Vegas Vic, Tyrith
Gavin Smith (3rd) - hoopsguy, Maple Leafs, Subby, dixieflatline, digamma, Jas_lov
TJ Cloutier (6th) - JonInMiddleGA
Allen Cunningham (8th) - Barkeep49, hoopsguy, QuikSand, Radii, sabotai
Phil Ivey (10th) - Chubby, Desmond, digamma, dixieflatline, hoopsguy, Jas_lov, JonInMiddleGA, kcchief19, larrymcg421, Maple Leafs, QuikSand, Radii, TazFTW, TroyF, Tyrith, Vegas Vic, Barkeep49, rockboy70, sabotai, Lathum
Barry Greenstein (14th) - digamma, dixieflatline, hoopsguy, Jas_lov, Radii
Freddy Deeb (14th) - timmynausea
Josh Arieh (16th) - Lathum
Erik Seidel (22nd) - Chubby, kcchief19, Radii, Vegas Vic, timmynausea
Howard Lederer (23rd) - Desmond, larrymcg421, rockboy70, timmynausea, kcchief19
Doyle Brunson (24th) - Chubby, kcchief19, larrymcg421
Victor Ramdin (34th) - dixieflatline
Erick Lindgren (36th) Barkeep49, dixieflatline, Jas_lov, Maple Leafs, TazFTW, Vegas Vic
Tuan Le (37th) - AnalBumCover, kccheif
Honolulu Blue
07-14-2006, 03:05 AM
No one left for me. :(
I've gotta hope for a big score somewhere down the line.
timmynausea
07-14-2006, 05:49 AM
I'm gonna need Freddy Deeb to pull this out.
Edit: Checking updates now, all three of my guys still alive as of last night are now out. Deeb, Lederer and Seidel put up a good fight but failed to cash.
larrymcg421
07-14-2006, 05:59 AM
Deeb already busted. Here is the remaining seat arrangement:
1 - Phil Ivey
2 - Allen Cunningham
3 - Patrik Antonius
4 - David Singer
5 - Andy Bloch
6 - Tom Hufnagle
7 - Robert Williamson III
8 - Matt Hawrilenko
1 - Ted Forrest
2 - Cuong Do
3 - Jim Bechtel
4 - Empty
5 - Empty
6 - Barry Greenstein
7 - Rafael Perry
8 - Doyle Brunson
1 - Joe Cassidy
2 - Chip Reese
3 - Dewey Tomko
4 - Gavin Smith
5 - Roy Thung
6 - Roger McDow
7 - T.J. Cloutier
8 - David Levi
Jas_lov
07-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Down to the final 10. Joe Cassidy 13th, Barry Greenstein 12th, Gavin Smith 11th all received $205,920.
Chip Reese is the chip leader, Jim Bechtel, Doyle Brunson, Andy Bloch, David Singer, Phil Ivey, T.J. Cloutier, Dewey Tomko, Patrick Antonious, and Robert Williamson are all still alive and I think they are still playing as I write this post! That is one long night. Should be a great final table and we'll get to see Chip Reese a little bit more.
kcchief19
07-14-2006, 11:03 AM
With 10 left, it likes like the only pool picks remaining are Ivey, Brunson and Cloutier. Ivey's finish doesn't matter much, since it seems like most of the field picked Ivey. If you don't have Ivey, you're behing the eight-ball right now.
Cloutier and Brunson are the wildcards. JiMGA is the only one with Cloutier, so he's going to gain some big ground. If either of those two finish in the top two, the guys who took them will vault to the top of the standings.
The payout structure in this tourney is brutal ... only the top 16 money. Greenstein and Smith also made the money.
dixieflatline
07-14-2006, 11:12 AM
Just when I got my hopes up:
With 39 people left in the HORSE event, here are the picked players left, their current chip rank, and who picked them.
Gavin Smith (3rd) - hoopsguy, Maple Leafs, Subby, dixieflatline, digamma, Jas_lov
Phil Ivey (10th) - Chubby, Desmond, digamma, dixieflatline, hoopsguy, Jas_lov, JonInMiddleGA, kcchief19, larrymcg421, Maple Leafs, QuikSand, Radii, TazFTW, TroyF, Tyrith, Vegas Vic, Barkeep49, rockboy70, sabotai, Lathum
Barry Greenstein (14th) - digamma, dixieflatline, hoopsguy, Jas_lov, Radii
Victor Ramdin (34th) - dixieflatline
Erick Lindgren (36th) Barkeep49, dixieflatline, Jas_lov, Maple Leafs, TazFTW, Vegas Vic
And then only Ivey gets to final table. The crazy thing is I was looking at this event in particular during the 3 minutes I spent when I made my picks. Every player on my list had to be someone I thought could win this event. At least I got some money from Barry and Gavin Smith.
Jas_lov
07-14-2006, 11:13 AM
Robert Williamson III is out in 10th. The final table is...
Seating For Final Table
1- Jim Bechtel $841,000
2- Doyle Brunson $1,227,000
3- Chip Reese $1,756,000
4- Dewey Tomko $438,000
5- Andy Bloch $934,000
6- T.J. Cloutier $351,000
7- David Singer $745,000
8- Patrik Antonius $13,000
9- Phil Ivey $885,000
Patrick Antonious doesn't have much of a chance with only 1 or 2 BBs left. It's unfortunate because it would have been awesome seeing him going up against the older generation in Doyle, Chip, Tomko, Cloutier.
Barkeep49
07-14-2006, 11:17 AM
I think it's great to see Brunson make this event as the second chip leader. Shows his greatness.
hoopsguy
07-14-2006, 04:53 PM
dixie, I feel your pain.
Cunningham - busts in 17th, no money
Smith and Greenstein - money, but not final table
So I've got Ivey and root like hell against Doyle and TJ like the rest of us without those guys.
TroyF
07-14-2006, 04:56 PM
dixie, I feel your pain.
Cunningham - busts in 17th, no money
Smith and Greenstein - money, but not final table
So I've got Ivey and root like hell against Doyle and TJ like the rest of us without those guys.
I dont' have Doyle or TJ, but I won't be rooting against em. Hell, I hope Doyle wins the damned thing.
Chubby
07-14-2006, 05:01 PM
Go Ivey and Doyle!!!
Chubby
07-14-2006, 09:24 PM
any updates?
kingfc22
07-14-2006, 09:25 PM
any updates?
Final table starts in 90 minutes.
Chubby
07-14-2006, 09:31 PM
Cool,go Phil and Doyle :D
larrymcg421
07-14-2006, 09:32 PM
Yeah they were playing forever yesterday. Have to let them get some sleep.
I'm encouraged that the final table will be NLHE. That bodes well for both of my picks, Phil and Doyle. I'm not encouraged that the only two other people that have both Phil and Doyle are ahead of me in the standings.
Honolulu Blue
07-15-2006, 07:37 AM
Doyle went out 8th, TJ in 5th, and Lord Ivey in 3rd. It's Andy Bloch vs. Chip Reese for the biggest prize pool outside the main event.
HORSE was not good to me, to put it mildly. I'll be lucky to find myself in the middle of the pack at the next update. But I was ahead for two whole days, and I'll always savor that memory.
larrymcg421
07-15-2006, 03:00 PM
Event 16 - $10,000 Pot Limit Omaha
Barry Greenstein 20.492
Daniel Negreanu 12.295
Event 17 - $1,000 NLHE
John Phan 289.389
Humberto Brenes 74.715
Carlos Mortensen 38.936
Victor Ramdin 5.262
Quiksand 5.262
David Williams 3.157
Gavin Smith 1.578
Event 18 - $2,000 PLHE
Men Nguyen 3.221
Event 19 - $1,000 NLHE Seniors
No points scored in this event.
Event 20 - $50,000 HORSE
Phil Ivey 617.760
TJ Cloutier 480.480
Doyle Brunson 274.560
Gavin Smith 205.920
Barry Greenstein 205.920
Toddzilla
07-15-2006, 06:50 PM
Chip Reese wins the $50K HORSE event
larrymcg421
07-16-2006, 05:14 AM
hoopsguy 2119.287
Barkeep49 2084.245
JonInMiddleGA 1996.037
kcchief19 1905.041
dixieflatline 1893.82
Radii 1848.298
sabotai 1820.733
Chubby 1798.824
TazFTW 1726.724
larrymcg421 1701.783
QuikSand 1673.831
Tyrith 1542.432
rockboy70 1481.894
TroyF 1481.367
digamma 1467.221
Jas_lov 1466.789
Honolulu Blue 1329.34
Maple Leafs 1302.182
Vegas Vic 1283.219
Desmond 1246.34
Lathum 1095.48
AnalBumCover 808.107
Subby 537.732
albionmoonlight 449.382
timmynausea 92.175
Barkeep49
07-16-2006, 07:35 AM
I love being in second place and all but are you sure that's right? I don't get how I could have rocketed up so high. It doesn't seem like some of my players have done anything.
larrymcg421
07-16-2006, 08:09 AM
Your points are mostly coming from three players:
Allen Cunningham - 627.58
Phil Hellmuth - 441.78
Phil Ivey - 846.516
And actually, you were 1st in the last update. You fell to 2nd in this one because hoops also had Ivey and scored with Greenstein.
Barkeep49
07-16-2006, 08:20 AM
Ok thanks. I had missed the last update actually. I hadn't realized Phil H was doing so well. That explains the "missing" points.
Barkeep49
07-16-2006, 08:46 AM
After this I went over to Card Player to see what all the Poker Brat had done so well in, and basically it was just his second place finish, as he had two other low cashes and that was it. So I guess I was aware of how he was doing, just not the extent of how big that one second place finish was.
Jas_lov
07-16-2006, 01:09 PM
Well barkeep Allen Cunningham and Phil Hellmuth are at it again for you. Allen is currently 4th in the Omaha H/L 8 O/B $3,000 entry. Phil Hellmuth is 22nd out of the 47 left in that tournament. Huck Seed is also 3rd in that tournament. Top 36 cash.
Limit Holdem $3,000 entry has 35 players still alive including Carlos Mortensen in 6th who is having maybe the best world series so far besides William Chen who has already won 2 bracelets. I beleive Mortensen has made 2 final tables already.
larrymcg421
07-17-2006, 02:26 AM
Final table for Omaha 8/B
Phil's gonna get another shot at #10. It would be pretty cool if his 10th was also his first non-hold em victory.
Seat 1 - Phil Hellmuth - $158,000
Seat 2 - Martin Corpuz - $76,000
Seat 3 - Peter Costa - $108,000
Seat 4 - Scott Clements - $244,000
Seat 5 - Thor Hansen - $86,000
Seat 6 - Alex Limjoco - $116,000
Seat 7 - Steve Ladowsky - $97,000
Seat 8 - Brent Carter - $49,000
Seat 9 - Ronald Matsuura - $120,000
SirFozzie
07-18-2006, 04:51 PM
Fun hand from today's $1500 NL Holdem event
With the board showing 9h8s7h , three players move all-in and one player, holding 6h5s, folds. All three players turn over J-10 meaning that 4 players flopped a straight. The player who folded 5-6 is clearly very happy with his play, while all the others seem entertained as they chop the pot.
SirFozzie
07-19-2006, 06:01 PM
Interesting....
Players File Antitrust Lawsuit Against World Poker
Seeks to Open Up Competition and End WPT's Control of Player's Likenesses
Seven poker players have joined together and filed a lawsuit against World Poker Tour Enterprises today claiming that the company behind the World Poker Tour has violated antitrust laws by demanding players sign away the rights to their likeliness before taking part in WPT events.
The lawsuit also claims that WPTE and casinos that host WPT tournaments have unlawfully conspired to eliminate competition and opportunities for the World’s top poker players because casinos that host WPT events are not allowed to host other large-scale tournaments for broadcast.
Howard Lederer, Annie Duke, Andy Bloch, Phil Gordon and past World Series of Poker champions Chris Ferguson, Greg Raymer and Joe Hachem, filed the lawsuit in Federal court in Los Angeles Wednesday, July 19.
“We have seven players here standing up without a union, and they’re standing up for all the players,” said Jeffrey Kessler, lead lawyer for the players. “It is about setting up a fair system and the players here are prepared to back up this case until a fair system is set up.”
Image and Intellect
At the root of the lawsuit is the release form that all players who compete in WPT sponsored events must sign. The form gives WPTE the right to use the likeliness of the players in any way WPTE chooses for free. No matter how WPTE uses player’s images, players receive no monetary compensation.
The release gives WPTE the rights to use player’s images and likenesses in everything from books to video games, which it has done.
“This is about the control of your own name and likeness and in poker that’s all we have,” Lederer said. “You could find yourself endorsing products you don’t believe in. I should be able to make that decision, I don’t a want the WPT deciding for me.”
All the players involved in this suit have contracts with other companies that already gives the companies exclusive rights to their names, images and intellectual property rights. For example, Ferguson has a contract with Activision to exclusively appear in the “World Series of Poker Tournament of Champions” video game.
He says if he signed the release form to play in a WPT event, it would violate the contract that he has with Activision and all the other companies that he has chosen to work with. All the players involved with this suit believe this.
“I’ve been trying very hard to get a fair release,” Ferguson said. “Sometimes this release conflicts with deals you already have.”
Therefore, the seven players have not been participating in WPT events. As people who make their living playing poker, they claim that the release stops them from playing in some of the biggest and most lucrative tournaments in the world.
“We all want to play, but we can’t play right now because of the nature of the release,” Gordon said. “We want to compete in the biggest and best tournaments in the world.”
The lawsuit seeks to have this practice stopped, seeks compensation for the players, and asks that all the releases previously signed by the players be voided.
A Question of Fair Competition
The lawsuit notes that at least 11 casinos that host WPT events have signed written agreements not to compete with each other. The contract is set to expire in 2009. Because of this contract, the casinos are prohibited from hosting any non-WPT tournaments. This contract applies to all the properties in a casino chain, as well.
The suit claims that this eliminates competition between the casinos. If the casinos were able to compete with each other, everything from tournament structure and prize pools would naturally change to make it better for the players, the players say.
Because of the popularity of the WPT and the WSOP in recent years, many of the WPT casinos have been approached by outside companies to host other high-stakes poker tournaments.
The suit claims that because of this agreement, tournament poker players have less opportunities to ply their trade because, through the exclusive contract, WPTE has artificially restrained the number of televised high stakes poker tournaments that can enter the marketplace.
The contract -- and the nature of WPTE’s filming schedule -- also affects the quality of poker that’s being played and broadcast because WPTE has the final say in how the blind structure of the tournament will take place, said Duke.
She pointed to how the blind structure of WPT events are changed once the final table is decided, and then it’s changed again once play goes to heads-up.
Before the final table, blinds are 90 minutes, which is standard for most high-stakes poker tournaments. Once the final table is established, blinds go up every hour and once it gets down to two players, blinds go up every hour “when two people might be playing for a $1 million,” Duke said. “It takes the skill out of the game just when the money really matters.”
Since the lawsuit was only filed today, WPTE has yet to see it and won't comment on the lawsuit until then.
SirFozzie
07-19-2006, 06:07 PM
Interesting, poor Layne Flack is playing in three events today.
He arrived late in the NL Shootout event (basically a series of single table tournaments, with the winner advancing to a new table)
He won there to advance to the 3rd round.. that made him late for his two other events which he is trying to play simultaneously: ($5,000 buy in) Seven Card Stud and ($1500 buy in) Pot Limit Holdem.
er.. someone want to tell him you don't HAVE to play in every event?
larrymcg421
07-19-2006, 06:20 PM
Won't he be mad when he gets back to his 7 Stud table to find out that rolled up Aces were auto-folded for him.
digamma
07-19-2006, 06:24 PM
It's actually only two, as the shoot out tourney ended yesterday.
SirFozzie
07-19-2006, 06:26 PM
ah ok.. but still, playing two events at the same time? Hope his tables are near each other..
hey.. it could be worse, he could be six tabling in real life
larrymcg421
07-19-2006, 06:36 PM
I would instantly call the clock on him every time it was his turn to act.
Jas_lov
07-19-2006, 09:24 PM
Layne seems to be getting shorstacked in the pot limit holdem and average stacked in the Stud so he's probably better off trying to double up real fast in pot limit and either go bust or accumlate chips.
I know a lot of people probably picked Daniel Negreanu and if you didn't know he had said after one of the pot limit omaha events he was only going to play the main event. I think he was pissed at Harrahs because they changed the format of the NLHE shootout from 10 player tables to 6 player tables and he was planning on showing up late and just get blinded down a little but it turned out his table was finished by the time he got there and he was blinded off. Harry Demetriou also got thrown out at this same event for objecting. But Daniel must have blown off some steam and is back as chipleader of the pot limt holdem event today. Still 246 people left so a lot can happen.
larrymcg421
07-19-2006, 09:26 PM
Demetriou did get his money back, though.
Barkeep49
07-19-2006, 10:06 PM
Negreanu said that he wasn't going to play again IF he didn't get his money back. He got his money back and so he's playing more events.
Barkeep49
07-20-2006, 08:14 AM
Looks like those of us who have Cyndy Violotte are in good shape as she is the chip leader in the seven card stud tourney with 16 players remaining.
kcchief19
07-20-2006, 08:44 AM
Looks like those of us who have Cyndy Violotte are in good shape as she is the chip leader in the seven card stud tourney with 16 players remaining.
It's about freakin' time.
Jas_lov
07-20-2006, 09:03 AM
Daniel Negreanu still alive in the pot limit event but he's 27th out of 40 left. A $5,000 6 handed event starts today which should be chock full of pros.
Jas_lov
07-22-2006, 09:29 PM
The Erick Lindgren pick finally paid off. He finished 2nd at todays $5,000 Shorthanded NL final table today for a prize of $357,435.
The winner of that same event was Jeff Madsen who remarkably at the age of 21 has won his 2nd bracelet this year. He also has a 3rd place finish in this years series which will probably put him ahead of William Chen for player of the World Series. In the World Series that has the biggest fields ever it's pretty unbelievable that there are 2 double bracelet winners.
larrymcg421
07-22-2006, 09:35 PM
I'll have a leaderboard update for you guys shortly.
larrymcg421
07-23-2006, 05:23 AM
Event 21 - No Limit Hold Em Short Handed
Phil Gordon 14.467
Event 22 - $2000 No Limit Hold Em
Erik Seidel 2.874
Nam Le 2.874
Event 23 - $3,000 Limit Hold Em
Carlos Mortenson 7.529
Barry Greenstein 5.647
Event 24 - $3,000 Omaha Hi-Lo
Phil Hellmuth 48.576
Allen Cunningham 7.772
Event 25 - $2,000 No Limit Hold Em Shootout
David Pham 240.222
Dustin Woolf 27.300
Kathy Liebert 4.805
Josh Arieh 4.805
Todd Brunson 4.805
Marcel Luske 4.805
Mark Seif 4.805
Chris Feguson 4.805
Layne Flack 4.805
Evelyn Ng 4.805
Event 26 - $1,500 Pot Limit Omaha with Rebuys
No points scored in this event.
Event 27 - $1,500 Pot Limit Omaha
David Williams 3.583
Men Nguyen 1.792
Humberto Brenes .598
Event 28 - $1,500 No Limit Hold Em
Allen Cunningham 2.902
TJ Cloutier 2.902
Event 29 - $5,000 7 Card Stud
Cyndy Violette 102.648
Event 30 - $2,500 Pot Limit Hold Em
Daniel Negreanu 3.878
Kathy Liebert 3.232
Event 31 - $5,000 No Limit Hold Em Shorthanded
Erick Lindgren 357.435
John Juanda 19.063
Kenna James 11.319
David Pham 11.319
Dustin Woolf 11.319
Jennifer Tilly 8.340
Phil Hellmuth 8.340
larrymcg421
07-23-2006, 06:35 AM
Barkeep49 2635.068
dixieflatline 2280.631
TazFTW 2161.16
hoopsguy 2149.096
kcchief19 2078.886
JonInMiddleGA 2073.805
Radii 1880.981
Chubby 1876.959
Jas_lov 1853.739
sabotai 1849.7
QuikSand 1814.899
Maple Leafs 1804.478
larrymcg421 1782.567
Vegas Vic 1673.998
Tyrith 1641.561
rockboy70 1579.398
TroyF 1553.563
digamma 1488.065
Honolulu Blue 1432.247
Desmond 1292.036
Lathum 1125.227
AnalBumCover 1088.182
Subby 583.812
albionmoonlight 558.627
timmynausea 127.466
SirFozzie
07-24-2006, 02:55 AM
You gotta love rebuy tournies:
Sun Jul 23 12:58:00 PDT 2006
$500 Bounty on Matusow's Head
Erick Lindgren has just offered a $500 bounty on Mike Matusow's head. Anyone at Matusow's table that busts him in this event is now free to find Erick Lindgren to collect their bounty. The first bounty was just collected when Matusow's opponent told Lindgren, and Erick just threw a $500 chip over his head to the first guy who busted Matusow.
Sun Jul 23 13:13:00 PDT 2006
Bounty Rescinded
Mike Matusow just walked up to Erick Lindgren and explained that as a result of the bounty offered on his head, Matusow has already lost five coin flips, has lost with a set twice, and once with the nut straight. Lindgren has decided to rescind the bounty, the next guy to bust Matusow will be the last one to receive $500. On a side note, Mike Matusow and Gavin Smith have a $5,000 bet to see which one of them will last longer in this event.
In 15 minutes, Matusow had to rebuy.. what eight times? Compared to Daniel Negreanu, he's a low-level piker, as Kid Poker is in the hole 48,000 dollars. That's 48 rebuys folks. How bad is it? They actually had to refill the table dealer's chips, because Negreanu rebought all of em.
SirFozzie
07-24-2006, 02:57 AM
Actually, a lot of players were acting like badonkadonks early.. love this update.
Sun Jul 23 16:19:00 PDT 2006
How Many Does It Take?
Some of our notable professional players are in for more rebuys than they'd like to admit. Some are flaunting their high numbers with pride. Take a look at what your favorite player spent on rebuys for today's tournament:
Daniel Negreanu - 48
Gavin Smith - 12
Joe Sebok - 5
Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi - 11
Mike "The Mouth" Matusow - 21
Jennifer "Jennicide" Leigh - 3
Tony G. - 12
Michael Gracz - 4
Tony Cousineau - 2
Phil Hellmuth - 8
Allen Kessler - 4
Phil Gordon - 16
Greg Raymer - 5
Jennifer Tilly - 6
David Williams - 4
Clonie Gowen - 6
Phil "The Unabomber" Laak - 0
SirFozzie
07-24-2006, 03:13 AM
BTW, neither Negreanu nor Matusow are in the 61 players to make it to Day 2. :D
larrymcg421
07-24-2006, 03:15 AM
The 8 rebuys apparently were worth it for Hellmuth, who now has $100,000 chips and is in 2nd place.
8 is alot, but shit it pales to 48. That's fucking ridiculous.
hoopsguy
07-24-2006, 06:41 AM
Mortensen is down to the final two players in the Razz tournament. And Nam Le just missed the final table in the 5K PLHE event.
Subby
07-24-2006, 08:09 AM
Finally got a cash out of JonnyBax...even if it is for effing RAZZ.
Jas_lov
07-24-2006, 09:22 AM
From the reports Matusow seriously lost almost every single race. He went in blind before the rebuys ended with QQ and KK and lost both of those. In his final two hands he lost a race to Tony G. and lost with JJ to 77. He still almost made the money though so he must have been getting some cards. Lots of pros still left in this one including Phil Hellmuth, Tony G., Joe Sebok, James Van Alstyne, Hasan Habib, Humberto Brenes, and WPT champion Joe Bartholdi. If Phil Hellmuth makes another final table we'll probably never hear the end of it about how he's the best no limit holdem player of all time.
Subby
07-24-2006, 09:28 AM
Chipleader in the 1k rebuy is Shane Schleger (Shaniac at 2+2) - he made a televised final table last season at the WSoP (I think in the event where Witelles pulled the chair cover off the chair and started swinging it around).
dixieflatline
07-24-2006, 11:36 AM
Take a look at what your favorite player spent on rebuys for today's tournament:
Daniel Negreanu - 48
This is nothing new for Negreanu. In the 2004 event he had 27 rebuys before making the final table: hxxp://cardplayer.com/magazine/article/14199
Of course, playing every hand in a no-limit hold'em tournament with rebuys can get expensive in a hurry. When the rebuy period was over, I heard all kinds of rumors about myself: "Hey, did you hear about that kid who rebought something like 30 times?"
"I hear Negreanu went on complete tilt!"
"What an idiot." (That was actually a dealer who said that.)
"What a waste of money; why wouldn't he just give it to me?"
Well, I was determined to get the last laugh. I mean, I was just having some fun, and apparently that bothered some people. Whatever. A friend of mine later asked me if it was true. Did I actually rebuy 30 times? "Of course not! What kind of an idiot rebuys 30 times? I was in for the standard … $27,000."
Seriously, I went a little nutty, even for me. I was making double rebuys hand after hand. I was just so unlucky! I was all in with 10-3 and some guy with 9-9 beat me. Then, I picked up K-5 and lost to Q-Q. It got worse; I got all in with 7-3 offsuit and lost to A-J. (Begin my Hellmuth impression: "I mean, A-J; I lost to A-J. How unlucky am I? Don't these people know who I am?")
Of course, I'm kidding. My goal during the rebuy period was to build a big stack by getting lucky. Well, I'm embarrassed to say that despite all of the rebuys, I was broke by the end of the rebuy period and had to make the maximum add-on just to stay in the tournament.
SirFozzie
07-24-2006, 01:45 PM
yeah, I know Negreanu and folks are just having fun, but it's fun to watch top pros acting like a bunch of badonkadonks, on purpose :)
Subby
07-24-2006, 01:47 PM
You have to stop using that term.
SirFozzie
07-24-2006, 01:49 PM
No, I don't.
kingfc22
07-24-2006, 02:41 PM
48 rebuys. Ehhh, damn!
Subby
07-24-2006, 02:43 PM
The Negreanu brand-identity enhancement he gets from those 48 rebuys are probably worth a lot more than the $48k he spent...
kcchief19
07-24-2006, 03:32 PM
The Negreanu brand-identity enhancement he gets from those 48 rebuys are probably worth a lot more than the $48k he spent...
Probably ... in more ways than one.
Radii
07-24-2006, 03:50 PM
You have to stop using that term.
dear lord yes.
SirFozzie
07-24-2006, 03:52 PM
sorry, ain't gonna happen ;)
Or I jhust might cuz now you guys expect it ;)
kcchief19
07-24-2006, 08:29 PM
32 events in, who would have guessed that Howard Lederer would have no cashes? I know it's not for lack of trying, because he has played tournaments.
Jas_lov
07-24-2006, 08:31 PM
24 players left and Hellmuth is a near lock to make the final table with almost twice as many chips as 2nd place. The man is extremely focused to win #10. I think this is the one he wins.
Barkeep49
07-24-2006, 08:31 PM
i wouldn't have been surprised, though I am considering how many events he's played
larrymcg421
07-25-2006, 12:18 AM
With four limpers to the flop it comes down 10http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif7http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif6http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif and Shane Schleger bets $8,000 under-the-gun and Hellmuth raises to $20,000 from the button. Shane re-raises $30,000 more and Hellmuth calls. The turn is a 10http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/spade.gif and Schleger bets out $40,000 which is called by Hellmuth. The river is a Ahttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/spade.gif and Schleger moves all-in for $150,000. Hellmuth thinks for 5 minutes and finally makes the call and shows Qhttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/club.gif10http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif and Schleger shows 10http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/club.gif9http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/club.gif both having trip tens but with Hellmuth with the best kicker. Schleger is eliminated in 18th place ($16,382). Hellmuth is now the dominating chip leader with $493,000.
Say what you want about Hellmuth, but this call took a big pair of cojones. It was for almost his entire stack (he would have been left with maybe $10-20k I think). There are hands out there that could beat him. I guess he thought about it and put the guy on suited connectors, but even still, 8-9 is a big possibility. K-10 is also a possibility I suppose.
Jas_lov
07-25-2006, 12:50 AM
Howard Lederer has cashed in the $1500 Limit Holdem shootout.
Final 9 is set. A good mix of pros and amateurs. Tony G. and Hellmuth should be entertaining. Maybe ESPN will learn this time and show this on tv.
Seat 1 - Ralph Perry $235,000
Seat 2 - Terris Preston $164,000
Seat 3 - Antanas 'Tony' Guoga $77,000
Seat 4 - John Spadavecchia $122,000
Seat 5 - Elio Cabrera $95,000
Seat 6 - David Plastik $121,000
Seat 7 - Empty
Seat 8 - Juha Helppi $436,000
Seat 9 - Phil Hellmuth $768,000
Seat 10 - Daryn Firicano $450,000
Jas_lov
07-25-2006, 11:40 PM
Down to three....
Phil Hellmuth $1,500,000
Juha Helppi $525,000
Daryn Firicano $425,000
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 12:23 AM
Go Phil!
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 12:39 AM
164. Hellmuth limps from the small blind and Firicano moves all in from the big blind. Hellmuth folds and Firicano wins the pot.
165. Hellmuth calls from the button and Firicano moves all in from the small blind. Hellmuth mucks and Firicano wins the pot.
Phil is clearly setting up Firicano here.
Jas_lov
07-26-2006, 12:44 AM
Firicano raised to 70k and Helppi came over the top for 190,000 and Firicano folded showing the Ace of hearts. I think Phil and Juha are just waiting to bust him and go at each other heads up trying not to get in each others way until then. Should be a good heads up matchup if it happens as Juha is one of the best European players and someone on 2+2 said ESPN is there filming this one.
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 12:49 AM
Firicano just doubled up off Hellmuth. They both made a pair of aces but Firicano had A8 and Phil had A6.
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 12:50 AM
Updated Chip Counts
The updated chip counts are:
Juha Helppi $900,000
Daryn Firicano $830,000
Phil Hellmuth $775,000
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 02:02 AM
It is now heads up.
Helppi $1.6
Phil $800k
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 02:12 AM
I can't wait to see the ESPN broadcast and the range of emotions Hellmuth displays on this hand...
207. Helppi raises to $90,000 and Hellmuth moves all in for $480,000 from the big blind. Helppi makes the call and shows Ahttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif6http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif. Hellmuth shows 5http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif5http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/spade.gif and the flop comes Khttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gifJhttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif5http://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif and Hellmuth flops a set. However, the Qhttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/diamond.gif on the turn gives Helppi the flush. But, the Qhttp://www.cardplayer.com/images/common/suits/heart.gif on the river fills up Hellmuth and doubles him up.
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 03:03 AM
Hellmuth wins his 10th bracelet.
He crippled Helppi when he got all in with KK vs. AT. Helpi later doubled up, but then Phil finally sprung his trap. He limped in with AJ, Helpi moved all in and Phil called. Helpi had A9 and Phil won.
Jas_lov
07-26-2006, 08:42 AM
Wow, i went to bed because I thought it would never end. Certainly well deserved for Phil and it should be interesting to watch on TV. Johnny Chan is still alive in the 2-7 Lowball but he's 20th/21 left, but it'd be great to see Phil's reaction if Johnny got #11 the day after Phil got #10. There's a lot of pros from our pool still left in that including chip leader David Williams, Greg Raymer(3rd), Mike Matusow(12th), Allen Cunningham(14th), and Layne Flack(16th).
Seven Card Stud HL 8 O/B features no one from our pool but still alive is Jeff Madsen who has made his 4th final table of this world series! He's the shortstack so probably won't make it 3 bracelets, but that's still a great accomplishment. Just when Phil took over the POY race, Madsen comes back with a FT.
Subby
07-26-2006, 08:59 AM
Firicano is a pretty well-known 2+2 guy, so I was at least pulling for him to make the final two.
As much as I can't stand Helmuth, I am happy he won. I can't really explain it.
kcchief19
07-26-2006, 09:06 AM
Well, my team has almost compiled two bracelets sine the last update, with Hellmuth's win and Mortenson's second place in Razz. And I'll still be light years behind Barkeep thanks to Allan Freakin' Cunningham. :)
Barkeep49
07-26-2006, 09:26 AM
Well, my team has almost compiled two bracelets sine the last update, with Hellmuth's win and Mortenson's second place in Razz. And I'll still be light years behind Barkeep thanks to Allan Freakin' Cunningham. :)
Allan has treated me very well. I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised at how well Hellmuth has been doing. I put together Team Kill Phil as kind of a lark and a joke after I had chosen Gordon and Ivey. I had also forgotten that I had chosen Allan at first and was quite dismayed to see him do so well when I think quite highly of his abilities. I did feel better when I realized I HAD chosen him afterall. As they say it's better to be lucky then good :)
larrymcg421
07-26-2006, 09:59 PM
Hennigan and Lederer have been really disappointing so far for me.
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