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Cringer
07-01-2006, 07:14 PM
I had hoped this stuff went out the window a long time ago. Stuff like this gets out it might make a few players look the other way come free agency time if they think it was because of racism.

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Tony Walter column: It’s time for city to be fair with Barnett

Green Bay Mayor Jim Schmitt was 100 percent correct but it took him to the end of Thursday afternoon’s press conference to say it.

“It’s not playing right,” he said. He was referring as much to the debacle that has become the Nick Barnett/ FiveSix liquor license case as he was to the opinion the public had to be developing about the city’s definition of fair play.

No, it isn’t playing right, and that was apparent on the faces of the city officials who met the media in the City Hall Council Chambers to try to answer something that has only been raising more questions with every misstep.

The fairness issue

Barnett, the Green Bay Packers linebacker who owns FiveSix, 405 W. Walnut St., Green Bay, was denied the renewal of his establishment’s liquor license June 6. There were numerous complaints about the behavior of some of his customers, and the bar was most certainly on the police radar screen.

This stirred up fairness issues because another bar, with an even longer police blotter, seemed to be traveling a friendlier route. And it kicked up racial implications, because Barnett is black. Then, as Barnett and his attorney were apparently working with city officials on a solution that could result in an abatement agreement, the linebacker gets slapped with — of all things — a written warning for jaywalking.

Onto this murky stage marched Schmitt, Barnett, Police Chief Craig Van Schyndle, a few council members and a couple attorneys.

Schmitt spoke first into the spate of microphones, with something short of a mea culpa (“This could have been handled better”) but with clear awareness of where the buck stops in matters such as this. He called for a rescinding of the council’s June 6 decision, said Barnett was taking the right steps to clean things up, and talked about the proposed abatement agreement.

‘We’re going to make it right’

But when someone asked about the jaywalking rap, Schmitt gladly gave up the podium to Van Schyndle. The chief said the jaywalking warning was “a mistake” and then told us that the police officer who issued it has been pulled from the coverage area that includes the FiveSix.

He said the officer is not a racist and when asked if he could see how it might appear that way since two men with Barnett at the time — both white — weren’t cited, Van Schyndle said tersely, “No.”
Barnett said the right things, good things about the mayor, but stepped around questions about any racial significance of the liquor license debate or the jaywalking. He clearly wasn’t anxious to choke the momentum that was his.

The ordeal over in 20 minutes, the principals exited into the mayor’s office, but not before Schmitt said, “We’re going to make it right, starting right now.”

It hasn’t looked right yet.

Pumpy Tudors
07-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Countdown to another polarizing incident at FOFC: 5...4...3...2...

Buccaneer
07-01-2006, 07:20 PM
Countdown to another polarizing incident at FOFC: 5...4...3...2...

Please stop causing problems.




woohoo, I finally got mine in!

Cringer
07-01-2006, 07:20 PM
Countdown to another polarizing incident at FOFC: 5...4...3...2...

I hope not.

And since I didn't say it, I think the crap happening to Barnett is just that, crap. The jay walking warning is a major joke, and really bad looking to Green Bay I think.

BrianD
07-01-2006, 07:42 PM
Green Bay is only recently becoming an ethnically diverse area. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there some racial motivations here.

Franklinnoble
07-02-2006, 01:38 AM
NEWS FLASH! THERE ARE STILL RACISTS IN THE U.S.A.!

(and, yeah, I actually posted this here before it made it on SportsDigs... you can thank me later.)

Wasn't there a big stink a few years ago about Boston being a racist town? Or was that Barry Bonds and his steroids talking? I can't remember.

I can remember growing up in College Park, Maryland as a kid... most of the black people I knew were Colts fans, not Redskins fans. They hated the Redskins, not because the name was offensive to another minority group, but because the original owner, George Preston Marshall, was an unabashed racist, and because of it, the Redskins hold the dubious distinction of being the last team in the NFL to integrate (and even then, it was only via league mandate).

Even when Jack Kent Cooke took over, the resentment remained. It wasn't until Doug Williams won the Super Bowl that most of the black community buried the hatchet.

My point is, this kind of crap is the sort of thing people have really long memories about. The city of Green Bay ought to bend over backwards to ameliorate the situation, or it's going to leave a foul stench on the city and the franchise for a long time.

ISiddiqui
07-02-2006, 01:45 AM
Dude... some of that stuff Barnett is going through is fucked up. Good luck in free agency, Green Bay!

Cringer
07-02-2006, 02:01 AM
My point is, this kind of crap is the sort of thing people have really long memories about. The city of Green Bay ought to bend over backwards to ameliorate the situation, or it's going to leave a foul stench on the city and the franchise for a long time.

With Green Bay it has already had a problem in the past, if there was anything to support the image I don't know. That was one reason Reggie White signng with Green Bay was more then just a great DE coming to town. He kind of opened the door for other players to look at Green Bay as a place they could actually play, instead of just the NFL's Siberia as they called it.

There may not be another Reggie White for a long time, so I agree, they need to keep this kind of thing from going any further and bend over backwards to correct things IMO.

mckerney
07-02-2006, 05:00 AM
The article doesn't mention that FiveSix received a liquor license as a restaurant but fails to act as a restraunt with the required percentage of sales from food, which can be a pretty quick way for a business to lose a liquor license.

Ben E Lou
07-02-2006, 05:04 AM
Paging Tim Goodwell.

Cringer
07-02-2006, 09:52 AM
The article doesn't mention that FiveSix received a liquor license as a restaurant but fails to act as a restraunt with the required percentage of sales from food, which can be a pretty quick way for a business to lose a liquor license.

That's a nice piece of information that shouldn't have been left out.

Grammaticus
07-02-2006, 10:14 AM
My friend Tony Bennett (yes, black player) played linebacker for the Packers and was treated like royalty by the Green Bay fans. He said he loved playing there, better than Indianapolis. Of course that was around 10 years ago. I doubt things have changed that much though.

McKerney makes a good point. If the other restaurant is doing something similar and has problems, is it possible they will have the same issue when their liquor license comes up for renewal?

From what we know about the jaywalking thing, that sounds like a load of crap. Who the heck writes jaywalking warnings?

Raiders Army
07-02-2006, 10:15 AM
Who would want to live in Green Bay voluntarily???

Cringer
07-02-2006, 10:31 AM
Who would want to live in Green Bay voluntarily???


**Cringer waves arms like mad**

And not just because I am a Packer fan. I go there/through there on the truck and love the area.

My friend Tony Bennett (yes, black player) played linebacker for the Packers and was treated like royalty by the Green Bay fans. He said he loved playing there, better than Indianapolis. Of course that was around 10 years ago. I doubt things have changed that much though.

McKerney makes a good point. If the other restaurant is doing something similar and has problems, is it possible they will have the same issue when their liquor license comes up for renewal?

From what we know about the jaywalking thing, that sounds like a load of crap. Who the heck writes jaywalking warnings?

I have never had the impression Green Bay has a 'problem' with racism, but it is a perception of such a thing that needs to be prevented so FA's are not scared away. The small town thing already rubs some guys wrong I am sure, another negative wouldn't help. And Tony Bennett was a good Packer. :)

Buccaneer
07-02-2006, 10:34 AM
Who would want to live in Green Bay voluntarily???

Thus sayeth the guy that lives in the shithole of the West.

Grammaticus
07-02-2006, 10:34 AM
And Tony Bennett was a good Packer. :)
And an Ole Miss Rebel ;)

Franklinnoble
07-02-2006, 10:43 AM
Thus sayeth the guy that lives in the shithole of the West.

I think El Paso is the armpit of the West. Isn't Tucson the shithole? Or have I got them confused?

clintl
07-02-2006, 10:58 AM
That is one clueless police chief.

Glengoyne
07-02-2006, 11:21 AM
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And not just because I am a Packer fan. I go there/through there on the truck and love the area.



Ah so you're one of those truckers who drives on Frozen lake beds and the like.

Cringer
07-02-2006, 12:09 PM
Ah so you're one of those truckers who drives on Frozen lake beds and the like.

Haha. I think I saw that as one on a 'Most Dangerous Jobs' show one time, but they were in Canada. Na, I wouldn't take one of those jobs. And Arkansas and Texas allow twice the ice on their roads then Wisconsin so staying on the roads is not too bad.

PackerFanatic
07-02-2006, 02:03 PM
I never thought Green Bay had that big of an issue either, but I didn't grow up in GB (I grew up in Appleton, 30 minutes from GB)

st.cronin
07-02-2006, 03:31 PM
I found Wisconsin in general to be quite "tolerant" (although not especially diverse) compared to other places I've lived in. I have never actually been to Green Bay, though.

Raiders Army
07-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Thus sayeth the guy that lives in the shithole of the West.
Although I came here voluntarily, it wasn't too much of a choice. Georgia (hot and humid), in the sticks in New York, in drug country North Carolina, or here. Sometimes better the devil you know. :)

stevew
07-02-2006, 04:36 PM
The article doesn't mention that FiveSix received a liquor license as a restaurant but fails to act as a restraunt with the required percentage of sales from food, which can be a pretty quick way for a business to lose a liquor license.
Yep, that'll get your license pulled in a jiffy.

Mustang
07-02-2006, 08:16 PM
My friend Tony Bennett (yes, black player) played linebacker for the Packers and was treated like royalty by the Green Bay fans.

Sucked when Bennett went to Indy. He was one of my favorite players from the early 90s...

Riggins44
07-02-2006, 09:11 PM
The article doesn't mention that FiveSix received a liquor license as a restaurant but fails to act as a restraunt with the required percentage of sales from food, which can be a pretty quick way for a business to lose a liquor license.

Oh no you don't! This is clearly racism. Three cheers for racism... hip, hip, hooray... ok, one's enough. :p

Grammaticus
07-02-2006, 10:54 PM
Sucked when Bennett went to Indy. He was one of my favorite players from the early 90s...
I agree, Tony was great in GB, but just did not play as well in Indy. Then he hurt his knee...Plus at the time, GB was really putting together a team with some interesting players. I really wish Tony had been a part of the Super Bowl Packers.

JeeberD
07-05-2006, 08:42 AM
Thus sayeth the guy that lives in the shithole of the West.

Asshat.



I wonder if the Astros are still considered a racist organization now that we have Preston Wilson on the team?