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Breast isn't best: readers tell US parenting magazine

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Thu Aug 3, 10:39 PM ET


<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20060804/capt.sge.brl67.040806083645.photo00.photo.default-384x512.jpg" align="right" vspace="5" hspace="5">WASHINGTON (AFP) - Readers of a US parenting magazine are crying foul over the publication's latest cover depicting a woman breastfeeding, with some calling the photo offensive and disgusting.


"I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine," one woman from Kansas wrote in reaction to the picture in Babytalk, a free magazine that caters to young mothers. "I was offended and it made my husband very uncomfortable when I left the magazine on the coffee table."
Her reaction was part of some 5,000 letters the magazine has received in response to a poll to gage reader sentiment about Babytalk's August cover photo, which shows a baby nursing.

Several readers said they were "embarrassed" or "offended" by the Babytalk photo and one woman from Nevada said she "immediately turned the magazine face down" when she saw the photo.

"Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob," the mother of a four-month-old said.

Another reader said she was "horrified" when she received the magazine and hoped that her husband hadn't laid eyes on it.

"I had to rip off the cover since I didn't want it laying around the house," she said.

A national television program also ran a segment on the controversy, interviewing several people in New York who expressed disgust over the cover photo.

The picture in Babytalk was aimed at illustrating the controversy surrounding breastfeeding in the United States, where a national survey by the American Dietetic Association found that 57 percent of those polled are opposed to women breastfeeding in public and 72 percent think it is inappropriate to show a woman breastfeeding on television programs.
Babytalk executive editor Lisa Moran said though most of those who responded to the poll about the cover photo gave the magazine a thumbs up, she was surprised that some 25 percent expressed outrage.
"There is a real puritanical streak in America," Moran told AFP. "You see celebrities practically baring their breasts all the time and no one seems to mind in this sort of sexual context.

"But in this very natural context of feeding your child, a lot of Americans are very uncomfortable with it."

She said the controversy is all the more surprising in light of concerted efforts by the US government and health professionals to encourage women to breastfeed.

"Everyone is saying that breastfeeding is best for baby but there is so little support for it in public," Moran said.

She said the Babytalk cover photo marks the first time a major parenting magazine in the United States dares to break the taboo about showing a woman's breast and the outrage it has prompted is not about to discourage editors from doing it again.

"This hasn't scared us off at all," Moran said. "We're thrilled and hopefully this will help women get more support for nursing."

[saldana]

but vanity fair has demi moore and maxim has half a breast on their cover every month and no one gives a crap?!...these people that are complaining or "tearing the cover off" need to go see a doctor to have their rectal-cranial inversion syndrome treated.

[jeff061]

They are just being good Christi.....

err... nevermind.

[Greyroofoo]

more breasts on magazines please

[GoSeahawks]

I'm glad to see we've come to a point in the US where pretty much everything is considered offensive.

[cartman]

I'd hit it.

(had to be done)

[terpkristin]

What kills me about this is not that it's normal and natural and healthy, it's that it could just as easily be a fat person's elbow or a knee. Without seeing nipples (which of course, the baby is suckling), it could be many a body part. HOW OFFENSIVE! :rolleyes:

/tk

[Mustang]

How about that side boob, does that turn you on?

Well, it shouldn't.. because that's MY side boob...

[Mustang]

[QUOTE=Subby"I was offended and it made my husband very uncomfortable when I left the magazine on the coffee table."
[/QUOTE]

dola..

Yaaa... riiiiiiight....

[caspanky]

How about that side boob, does that turn you on?

Well, it shouldn't.. because that's MY side boob...

Too bad SideBoobTV isn't a real channel. :D

[saldana]

How about that side boob, does that turn you on?

Well, it shouldn't.. because that's MY side boob...


i was trying to remember how the lines went...you beat me to it.

[ISiddiqui]

She had to rip off the cover, LOL! I wonder if she wears a bra when taking a shower because it is so horrible!! OH NOES, A BREST!

[jeff061]

Dirty DIRTY titty!!!!

[Cuckoo]

...it could just as easily be a fat person's elbow...

Funny. My 3 year old just walked into the room while I was looking at the screen and said, "Hey, look at that baby. That baby is sucking on an elbow."

:D

[duckman]

I was offended and it made my husband very uncomfortable when I left the magazine on the coffee table because he knew I would chop off his penis if I caught him masturbating in the bathroom while looking at the picture.

Fixed.

[kcchief19]

Her reaction was part of some 5,000 letters the magazine has received in response to a poll to gage reader sentiment about Babytalk's August cover photo, which shows a baby nursing.
Now that's embarrassing and offensive.

[Draft Dodger]

the scariest part to me - these are not random idiots freaking out over a mom feeding her kids in a Starbucks. these are people who SUBSCRIBE TO BABYTALK MAGAZINE.

[Glengoyne]

the scariest part to me - these are not random idiots freaking out over a mom feeding her kids in a Starbucks. these are people who SUBSCRIBE TO BABYTALK MAGAZINE.

I'll agree with this. I'll also add that while I have NO trouble with a mother breast feeding an infant in public, I do get more than an uneasy feeling when I see some toddler(eithteen months plus) walk over and attach him/herself to their mother's breast. I've seen mothers breast feed up to four year olds, and that just ain't right.

[Draft Dodger]

I'll agree with this. I'll also add that while I have NO trouble with a mother breast feeding an infant in public, I do get more than an uneasy feeling when I see some toddler(eithteen months plus) walk over and attach him/herself to their mother's breast. I've seen mothers breast feed up to four year olds, and that just ain't right.

My wife and I both agreed it wouldn't start getting weird until our kids would be old enough to have words for it, but both stopped long before that happened.

[st.cronin]

I've seen mothers breast feed up to four year olds, and that just ain't right.

Unless you're the 4 year old, and then it's just GREAT!

[KWhit]

People are fucking idiots.

[kcchief19]

the scariest part to me - these are not random idiots freaking out over a mom feeding her kids in a Starbucks. these are people who SUBSCRIBE TO BABYTALK MAGAZINE.
The woman expressing moral outrage about this are married to men who write the letters complaining about the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue every year, as though they just fell off the turnip truck and subscribed to SI without knowing they do a swimsuit issue.

[KWhit]

WTF do these people think tits are for?

[Noddadropp]

Am I the only person who thinks that breast feeding should be private and not put on the cover? I mean people who are walking past the magazine rack shouldnt have to see it. Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?

[cartman]

Am I the only person who thinks that breast feeding should be private and not put on the cover? I mean people who are walking past the magazine rack shouldnt have to see it. Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?

If you can't tell the difference between the two, then no, you shouldn't ask that here. Or anywhere else for that matter.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

I think those women are just jealous their boobs didn't look as good when they were breastfeeding. I mean c'mon - that side boob is smooth with a creamy, healthy skin. Where are the stretch marks and bulging blue veins so common with breastfeeding?

[cartman]

Where are the stretch marks and bulging blue veins so common with breastfeeding?

Beneath about 6 layers of Photoshop...

:D

[Toddzilla]

Am I the only person who thinks that breast feeding should be private and not put on the cover? I mean people who are walking past the magazine rack shouldnt have to see it. Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?Worst. Second Post. EVAR.

[Antmeister]

Yeah, that was definitely a ridiculous 2nd post. The picture is not a girl fondling her nipple. She's breast feeding dammit. Plus with a name called Noddadropp, I have a feeling that this is someone's joke account.

[ISiddiqui]

And it ain't even close to the prior holder of that record.

[Craptacular]

Wait a minute, I think my wife subscribes to that magazine now.

*runs off to search the house*

[lighthousekeeper]

I think those women are just jealous their boobs didn't look as good when they were breastfeeding. I mean c'mon - that side boob is smooth with a creamy, healthy skin. Where are the stretch marks and bulging blue veins so common with breastfeeding?

They're not there because that's a picture of my ass.

[RendeR]

Am I the only person who thinks that breast feeding should be private and not put on the cover?

Yes, or so it would seem.


I mean people who are walking past the magazine rack shouldnt have to see it.

Why not? Why can't they look at something else? why can't they look at a magazine they'd rather read? Why the hell must every individual cowtow to the few, the ignorant, the people who can't get a grip on their sexuality and thereby take it out on the rest of us with inane demands like "I shouldn't have to see that"?


Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?

I personally wouldn't give a shit less what was on the cover, thats the whole problem, far too many people with FAR too much time on their hands feel they have some right to force their views and social requirements on everyone else.

If you honestly think your comparison makes ANY real sense whatsoever, then perhaps you need to start studying pregnancy, birth and babies, because there is nothing on that cover that should be offending ANYONE.

People need to grow the hell up and show some maturity about sexuality in this country.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Am I the only person who thinks that breast feeding should be private and not put on the cover? I mean people who are walking past the magazine rack shouldnt have to see it. Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?
Interesting... Considering your name.

I think that breastfeeding shouldd be in private, but if a woman uses a cover in public it is fine. I also think a baby breastfeeding is a beautiful and natural thing. The fact that people have hangups about it is strange.

For a magazine of this format, I find absolutly nothing wrong with this. Look at that baby's eyes staring at (presumably) its mother. There is something there that is what life is all about.

With all that said, I have to say that the first thing I wanted to post was "Got Milk?" :D

[Noddadropp]

Thanks for making me feel crappy just because I don't agree with you guys. Very welcoming.

For SOME people, a breast is a sexual organ as is the male penis. Just because you guys are liberal and interested in seeing boobies on a cover doesn't mean that it isn't as offensive to some people as seeing the male thingy. Some people don't get off on semi-pornographic material.

Now, go ahead and rip on my 3rd post.

[Noddadropp]

Oh, and my name is because I don't drink alcohol. Not a drop. Get it?

[st.cronin]

Vikings fan?

[Noddadropp]

Vikings fan? Not really. I like the Broncos for NFL and Jazz for NBA. When I go home (Utah) after missionary work I'm going to buy season tickets.

[HomerSimpson]

For SOME people, a breast is a sexual organ as is the male penis. Just because you guys are liberal and interested in seeing boobies on a cover doesn't mean that it isn't as offensive to some people as seeing the male thingy. Some people don't get off on semi-pornographic material.

Interesting, you have a problem with this type of health magazine about breastfeeding at the checkout stand, but not the half nude Vogue, Glamour, or Maxim magazines?

[jeff061]

For SOME people, a breast is a sexual organ as is the male penis.

Yes, because when I think of breast feeding, I think of sex. This is perfectly healthy and natural, as is my rational fear of breasts.

[Noddadropp]

Interesting, you have a problem with this type of health magazine about breastfeeding at the checkout stand, but not the half nude Vogue, Glamour, or Maxim magazines?

Who are you to tell me what magazines I do or do not have a problem with? That's pretty assuming, I think.

[jeff061]

When I go home (Utah) after missionary work I'm going to buy season tickets.

Uh oh.


I have a sister in Utah. They are some nutty people out there. Reputation 100% deserved.

[Noddadropp]

Uh oh.


I have a sister in Utah. They are some nutty people out there. Reputation 100% deserved.

There are nutty people in every city. Quit feeding stereotypes.

[jeff061]

Yes. Except in this case, in this state, the reality exceeds the stereotype.

[Noddadropp]

Isn't Massachusetts the state that legalized gay marriage? And you're going to rip on Utah for being nutty...

I'll try not to laugh for the rest of the week about that one.

[jeff061]

I was suckered into a gimmick account, nicely played sir.

[Subby]

Hey your name is an anagram for dd porno pad!

[st.cronin]

or porn pond ad

[Honolulu_Blue]

Or dp porno dad.

[st.cronin]

nad porn pod

[Noddadropp]

Clever.

[DanGarion]

Vikings fan? Not really. I like the Broncos for NFL and Jazz for NBA. When I go home (Utah) after missionary work I'm going to buy season tickets.
Talking about sexual. Missionary? Dude lay of the sexual positions.

Don't bring your sex talk into my forums that I enjoy!

[Noddadropp]

Worst 2176th post ever.

[st.cronin]

Worst 2176th post ever.

Ok, that was almost clever. Some potential is showing.

[DanGarion]

Ok, that was almost clever. Some potential is showing.
Not really, I mean all he did was copy what someone said about his second post. The guys is most deffinately a troll.

[terpkristin]

Ok, that was almost clever. Some potential is showing.

Meh. I give him a week before he gets disgusted by us.

;)

/tk

[RendeR]

Thanks for making me feel crappy just because I don't agree with you guys. Very welcoming.

For SOME people, a breast is a sexual organ as is the male penis. Just because you guys are liberal and interested in seeing boobies on a cover doesn't mean that it isn't as offensive to some people as seeing the male thingy. Some people don't get off on semi-pornographic material.

Now, go ahead and rip on my 3rd post.


You're missing the point.

There is NOTHING sexual about breastfeeding, its the single most NATURAL thing a woman can do. If YOU have a problem with a BREAST then perhaps you YOU should get some counseling about YOUR sexual hangups.

Equating a breastfeeding babe to a penis and pornography is pathetic. Grow the Fuck UP.


As for your "liberal" comment, good god, does everything have to have some political connotation? this isn't about politics, this is about SOME people trying to foist their personal hangups off on others.

As I've said many other times, YOU control what YOU stare at, if you can't see someone breastfeding and CHOOSE to look in another direction, who's problem is that? Yours.

Its the same for me, I can't stand all the religious rhetoric that is plastered over the entire freaking universe. I can't go 2 blocks around my home without having to see some "gGod can save you" arrogance hanging in a window or on a wall or on a bumper sticker. *I* personally would love to see THAT banned. however, everyone has the right to say their peice, so I CHOOSE to ignore the tripe when I see it.

You might want to learn to do the same.

[RendeR]

Meh. I give him a week before he gets disgusted by us.

;)

/tk

*chuckles*

No shit, if he finds a breastfeeding image offensive he won't last here.


Edit: adding DOLA just for you know who.

[RendeR]

Ok, that was almost clever. Some potential is showing.

Responding to HA's posts has lowered your standards.


Edit: Adding DOUBLE DOLA for the same reason.

[terpkristin]

The other problem with what you posted, Noddadrop, is that your'e completely missing this thing called etiquette.

You'll find that we're generally a good group here, but we gotta get to know you first, before we feel like listening to you (or anybody new) "preach." Your first (as far as I can tell without looking too hard) 10 posts here have been in this thread where you've basically told us that you think you're better than all of us because you don't drink and because you think it's reprehensible for having a breast on a magazine. A breast, mind you, that we've already established looks like an elbow.

There are threads where things can get heated and people can be found attacking eachother and eachother's beliefs. You'll find them labedl "POL" for politics and you'll notice that most of the bantering is done by well-established members of the community, people who are well known and though it might look like they are personal attacks (ok, sometimes they are), generally it's known that they're expressing a very charged feeling and it can be let go.

For anybody to do that in their first posts on the board suggest to everybody that they're a troll. Hence you've been labeled as such. There's nothing wrong with what you or anybody else believing what you want to believe, but don't give us the "holier than thou" attitude when we barely know you, it's really not a good way to start off and a fast and sure way to get labeled, fairly or not.

/tk

[st.cronin]

Responding to HA's posts has lowered your standards.


Edit: Adding DOUBLE DOLA for the same reason.

Would you quit being such a fucking troll! :mad:

j/k

[DanGarion]

You might want to learn to do the same.
Come on man, that's too difficult for people to do.

[RendeR]

Come on man, that's too difficult for people to do.


I know, but believing in evolution to some extent I have to trust that humanity will get a kick in the ass and get over this pathetic hump sooner or later....

[JeeberD]

Typical BYU fan... ;)

[stevew]

You can't just whip out a 40 year old titty that's your man's titty. That is your man's titty 40 year old titty your man's titty. 20 year old titty community titty. That's for all to see.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Just because you guys are liberal

Bhhhhaaaaahahhahhahaaaaaaaaaaa!

You are obviously new around here. That's the last thing anyone would ever accuse me of.

[Glengoyne]

You're missing the point.

There is NOTHING sexual about breastfeeding, its the single most NATURAL thing a woman can do. If YOU have a problem with a BREAST then perhaps you YOU should get some counseling about YOUR sexual hangups.

Equating a breastfeeding babe to a penis and pornography is pathetic. Grow the Fuck UP.


As for your "liberal" comment, good god, does everything have to have some political connotation? this isn't about politics, this is about SOME people trying to foist their personal hangups off on others.

As I've said many other times, YOU control what YOU stare at, if you can't see someone breastfeding and CHOOSE to look in another direction, who's problem is that? Yours.

Its the same for me, I can't stand all the religious rhetoric that is plastered over the entire freaking universe. I can't go 2 blocks around my home without having to see some "gGod can save you" arrogance hanging in a window or on a wall or on a bumper sticker. *I* personally would love to see THAT banned. however, everyone has the right to say their peice, so I CHOOSE to ignore the tripe when I see it.

You might want to learn to do the same.

It isn't every day I agree with RendeR.

[st.cronin]

Bhhhhaaaaahahhahhahaaaaaaaaaaa!

You are obviously new around here. That's the last thing anyone would ever accuse me of.

I understand you're fairly "liberal" with your "favors."

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

I understand you're fairly "liberal" with your "favors."

Only if your name rhymes with PeeberD or Raft Roger.:D

[molson]

I don't have any moral or political problem with any cover of a magazine I don't subscribe to, but I definitely find public breast freeding pretty gross and unnerving. Of course, I find babies gross and unnerving, so that probably has more to do with it than the breast.

[terpkristin]

Noddadropp][/B] Just because you guys are liberal

Guilty as charged. Damn proud of it, too. But I don't really think that has anything to do with THIS particular issue [of the magazine]. Gosh, the puns are just flowing today. :D

/tk

[ISiddiqui]

Breastfeeding has sexual connotations?! What, did Noddabraincell get a hard on when his mom was making him get his dinner?

[GrantDawg]

Breastfeeding has sexual connotations?! What, did Noddabraincell get a hard on when his mom was making him get his dinner?

Don't ask questions you do not want answered, ok?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Bhhhhaaaaahahhahhahaaaaaaaaaaa!

You are obviously new around here. That's the last thing anyone would ever accuse me of.
Interesting.

Would you say you find the image of a breast that does not show the nipple to be an offensive liberal tool designed to employ overt sexual imagery and desolate the sexual mores of today's youth begining in infancy?

The baby is obviously a radical left pervert!

DAMN BILL CLINTON!!!

:D

[st.cronin]

Interesting.

Would you say you find the image of a breast that does not show the nipple to be an offensive liberal tool designed to employ overt sexual imagery and desolate the sexual mores of today's youth begining in infancy?

The baby is obviously a radical left pervert!

DAMN BILL CLINTON!!!

:D

All babies are radical lefy perverts. That's why they require education.

[duff88]

Seeing that thread before it generated many posts, I thought you guys had the potential to make it funny.

It was even better than I expected! :D

[Noddadropp]

The other problem with what you posted, Noddadrop, is that your'e completely missing this thing called etiquette.

You'll find that we're generally a good group here, but we gotta get to know you first, before we feel like listening to you (or anybody new) "preach." Your first (as far as I can tell without looking too hard) 10 posts here have been in this thread where you've basically told us that you think you're better than all of us because you don't drink and because you think it's reprehensible for having a breast on a magazine. A breast, mind you, that we've already established looks like an elbow.

There are threads where things can get heated and people can be found attacking eachother and eachother's beliefs. You'll find them labedl "POL" for politics and you'll notice that most of the bantering is done by well-established members of the community, people who are well known and though it might look like they are personal attacks (ok, sometimes they are), generally it's known that they're expressing a very charged feeling and it can be let go.

For anybody to do that in their first posts on the board suggest to everybody that they're a troll. Hence you've been labeled as such. There's nothing wrong with what you or anybody else believing what you want to believe, but don't give us the "holier than thou" attitude when we barely know you, it's really not a good way to start off and a fast and sure way to get labeled, fairly or not.

/tk

1) Why is it called "preaching" when I express a different viewpoint that happens to be a bit more conservative? I didn't ram my values down your throat, I just said why I don't want to see breastfeeding on a cover of a magazine. From the responses, which varied from personally insulting to downright vulgar and profane, I guess my viewpoint isn't a common one around here. That's fine, but at least have the ETIQUETTE to listen to a different viewpoint without resorting to insults and vulgarity.

2) I never said I was better than anyone because I don't drink. People were making comments about my name so I said where it comes from. Why are you so sensitive about the topic of drinking? Do you drink too much? Do you feel bad about it deep down and is that why you see me "judging" you even though I just explained my own name?

3) Do I have to be accepted by your group and be here for a long time before my opinions can be expressed? You said that people who have been around here are free to express their opinions because people know them. So, I ask you, am I a "troll" because I wanted to start jumping into the community right away instead of tucking my tail between my legs for a few months (or years), or am I a "troll" because you disagree with my opinion? I can gaurantee that if I made a comment about how I just LOVE to see breasts on magazine covers many of you wouldn't be jumping on me for expressing my opinion so quickly.

I stumbled upon this site just recently and even though I know many of you hold different opinions than me, I don't judge you and I don't insult you. Maybe you can extend me the same courtesy.

Thank you.

[Buccaneer]

Anyone else think a debate between The Mormon and The Fundamentalist (Bubba Wheels) would be marginally interesting?

Noddadropp, there are many here that professed believers in Christ, including myself. I suspect that most of us would hear true legalism in your Pharisee-atic position.

[Noddadropp]

Funny, because I was just trying to be reasonable! Guess I overshot...

[Daimyo]

You guys sure are being rough on the guy. I don't agree with his viewpoint either, but I don't see where its worthy of mockery or being called a troll. *shurg*

[sabotai]

Anyone else think a debate between The Mormon and The Fundamentalist (Bubba Wheels) would be marginally interesting?
In a "Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!" way, yes it would be.

And the breast is not a sex organ. This is not an opinion or a belief. It's a basic, biological fact. The breast plays no part in sexual reproduction, hence, it is not a sex organ. Its natural function is that of feeding young. That's it.

Now, I ain't saying playing with a nice set of boobies isn't fun. It is, in fact, a nice way to pass some time. But to say that the breast is a "sex organ"? And people try and say that sex education is a bad thing.

EDIT: Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between this guy (and the people in the article) complaining about a breast being offensive compared to 99% of eveything else that gets complained about for being offensive. If he finds public displays of breasts to be offensive, then fine. Be offended by whatever you want, I don't care. (It's when you want government to create and enforce laws based purely on being offended that crosses the line for me.).

[Toddzilla]

Funny, because I was just trying to be reasonable! Guess I overshot...Reasonable? You equated a picture of a baby breastfeeding with a guy working his junk. You started way the fuck far from reasonable right out of the gate, and you haven't done much to find your way back yet.

[WVUFAN]

1) Why is it called "preaching" when I express a different viewpoint that happens to be a bit more conservative? I didn't ram my values down your throat, I just said why I don't want to see breastfeeding on a cover of a magazine. From the responses, which varied from personally insulting to downright vulgar and profane, I guess my viewpoint isn't a common one around here. That's fine, but at least have the ETIQUETTE to listen to a different viewpoint without resorting to insults and vulgarity.
Because conservatism has nothing at all with what you're talking about. I find it curious that some people look at the cover of a magazine devoted to babies, see a woman nursing her child and think that's somehow perverted. Anyone who looked at that and thought "sex" really needs to reevaluate.

So, what is it in that picture that you find offensive? (btw, the breast may be used in sexual situations, but it's not a "sexual" organ in the fashion you're implying)


2) I never said I was better than anyone because I don't drink. People were making comments about my name so I said where it comes from. Why are you so sensitive about the topic of drinking? Do you drink too much? Do you feel bad about it deep down and is that why you see me "judging" you even though I just explained my own name?
I don't drink, but I don't go screaming to the heavens that I don't. When you make what you do public, you invite public scrutany for that act. You don't want people to give you hell over it, keep it to yourself.


3) Do I have to be accepted by your group and be here for a long time before my opinions can be expressed? You said that people who have been around here are free to express their opinions because people know them. So, I ask you, am I a "troll" because I wanted to start jumping into the community right away instead of tucking my tail between my legs for a few months (or years), or am I a "troll" because you disagree with my opinion? I can gaurantee that if I made a comment about how I just LOVE to see breasts on magazine covers many of you wouldn't be jumping on me for expressing my opinion so quickly.
No one is saying you shouldn't express your opinions, but (and trust me on this, I KNOW), if your opinion is unpopular, expect people to respond. If you can't take that, don't post. This is a community, for sure, and it's one that will call you to task if they think you're being an idiot.

From my experience, if you're expressing a rather idiotic point, people here will let you know. Again, I'm someone who have expressed on numerous occasions idiotic opinions, and I got what I deserved when I said them. Welcome to the club, kid.


I stumbled upon this site just recently and even though I know many of you hold different opinions than me, I don't judge you and I don't insult you. Maybe you can extend me the same courtesy.
Grow a thicker skin. People here don't pull their punches, and they shouldn't have to because you get insulted quickly.

[sabotai]

Because conservatism has nothing at all with what you're talking about. I find it curious that some people look at the cover of a magazine devoted to babies, see a woman nursing her child and think that's somehow perverted. Anyone who looked at that and thought "sex" really needs to reevaluate.

Oh this is just fucking great. Sitting here, a bit tired from a trip to New York City last night, getting ready to enjoy a nice Saturday night watching DVDs rented from Netflix and just relaxing....

And then I read this....

And I agree with WVUFAN.

My nice, relaxing Saturday night is RUINED!!! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?!?!



:D

[WVUFAN]

Oh this is just fucking great. Sitting here, a bit tired from a trip to New York City last night, getting ready to enjoy a nice Saturday night watching DVDs rented from Netflix and just relaxing....

And then I read this....

And I agree with WVUFAN.

My nice, relaxing Saturday night is RUINED!!! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?!?!



:D

Even I make sense half ... er ... a quarter .. er .. a little bit of the time.

And you're welcome, sabotai. Enjoy your liberal, American-hating movie. :)

[JeeberD]

Only if your name rhymes with PeeberD or Raft Roger.:D

Fo' sheezy... :p

[Celeval]

Only if your name rhymes with PeeberD or Raft Roger.:D

w00t!

- CeleveeberD.

[jeff061]

1) Why is it called "preaching" when I express a different viewpoint that happens to be a bit more conservative? I didn't ram my values down your throat, I just said why I don't want to see breastfeeding on a cover of a magazine. From the responses, which varied from personally insulting to downright vulgar and profane, I guess my viewpoint isn't a common one around here. That's fine, but at least have the ETIQUETTE to listen to a different viewpoint without resorting to insults and vulgarity.

2) I never said I was better than anyone because I don't drink. People were making comments about my name so I said where it comes from. Why are you so sensitive about the topic of drinking? Do you drink too much? Do you feel bad about it deep down and is that why you see me "judging" you even though I just explained my own name?

3) Do I have to be accepted by your group and be here for a long time before my opinions can be expressed? You said that people who have been around here are free to express their opinions because people know them. So, I ask you, am I a "troll" because I wanted to start jumping into the community right away instead of tucking my tail between my legs for a few months (or years), or am I a "troll" because you disagree with my opinion? I can gaurantee that if I made a comment about how I just LOVE to see breasts on magazine covers many of you wouldn't be jumping on me for expressing my opinion so quickly.

I stumbled upon this site just recently and even though I know many of you hold different opinions than me, I don't judge you and I don't insult you. Maybe you can extend me the same courtesy.

Thank you.

Hmm, i'm beginning to believe that this person actually exists in the real world. Disturbing.

[Pumpy Tudors]

omg i saw some woman's eyes on a magazine cover
and you know what
eyes are a sexual organ because they can look at penises
i demand blindfolds
this is an outrage
what worse eyes or breasts
thanks

[Lorena]

in before the lock

[RendeR]

Oh this is just fucking great.....

And then I read this....

And I agree with WVUFAN.

My nice, relaxing Saturday night is RUINED!!! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?!?!



:D



..


;)

[ISiddiqui]

omg i saw some woman's eyes on a magazine cover
and you know what
eyes are a sexual organ because they can look at penises
i demand blindfolds
this is an outrage
what worse eyes or breasts
thanks

What Pumpy has not disclosed is that he is from Iran ;).

[Mustang]

http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Mr.Griffin2/Petersig.jpg

[fantastic flying froggies]

omg i saw some woman's eyes on a magazine cover
and you know what
eyes are a sexual organ because they can look at penises
i demand blindfolds
this is an outrage
what worse eyes or breasts
thanks

I give you the 'burka':

http://papiro.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/another_burka-722450.jpg

(and yes, sadly, there actually is a womam underneath this...)

[Draft Dodger]

nice tits

[MIJB#19]

1) Why is it called "preaching" when I express a different viewpoint that happens to be a bit more conservative? I didn't ram my values down your throat, I just said why I don't want to see breastfeeding on a cover of a magazine. From the responses, which varied from personally insulting to downright vulgar and profane, I guess my viewpoint isn't a common one around here. That's fine, but at least have the ETIQUETTE to listen to a different viewpoint without resorting to insults and vulgarity.In a way I can understand this. As it seems most people think that breastfeeding should be something private, so it kinda makes sense to say it's wrong on a certain level. But you did send out a message of not even having the slightest clue about what all the organs of a human body are 'designed' for.

2) I never said I was better than anyone because I don't drink. People were making comments about my name so I said where it comes from. Why are you so sensitive about the topic of drinking? Do you drink too much? Do you feel bad about it deep down and is that why you see me "judging" you even though I just explained my own name? Good for you. I don't drink alcohol either.

3) Do I have to be accepted by your group and be here for a long time before my opinions can be expressed? You said that people who have been around here are free to express their opinions because people know them. So, I ask you, am I a "troll" because I wanted to start jumping into the community right away instead of tucking my tail between my legs for a few months (or years), or am I a "troll" because you disagree with my opinion? I can gaurantee that if I made a comment about how I just LOVE to see breasts on magazine covers many of you wouldn't be jumping on me for expressing my opinion so quickly.Good point. And people are free to share opinios, try to convince others of your points. However, it was you who said he would laugh all week at someone from Massachusets simply because he lives there. You clearly implied that people from places where that's legal are 'nuttier' than 'nutty'. You don't want to be judged on saying you don't drink alcohol, then don't judge others based on where they come from.

I stumbled upon this site just recently and even though I know many of you hold different opinions than me, I don't judge you and I don't insult you. Maybe you can extend me the same courtesy.See above, you did judge people before ever talking to them. You are doing exactly want you don't want others to do to you.

[tanglewood]

Sorry, but anyone who thinks breats are a sex organ is retarded.

[spleen1015]

I had a lot of fun with the idiots that got offended by my wife breast feeding. She did it pretty much anywhere and there were lots of people I got to talk to over it.

It is natural. This is what tits are for. Get over it.

[jeff061]

Good point. And people are free to share opinios, try to convince others of your points. However, it was you who said he would laugh all week at someone from Massachusets simply because he lives there. You clearly implied that people from places where that's legal are 'nuttier' than 'nutty'. You don't want to be judged on saying you don't drink alcohol, then don't judge others based on where they come from.

Too be fair, I was rightly giving him crap for being in Utah.

[Noddadropp]

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

[WVUFAN]

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

There's been several people trying to explain things to you, but you apparantly have no desire to listen. Instead you call names. Yeah, that'll make people stop.

(shakes head)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

There's been several people trying to explain things to you, but you apparantly have no desire to listen. Instead you call names. Yeah, that'll make people stop.

(shakes head)
I'm going out on a limb here and assume that he was bottle-fed.

[Huckleberry]

I'll agree with this. I'll also add that while I have NO trouble with a mother breast feeding an infant in public, I do get more than an uneasy feeling when I see some toddler(eithteen months plus) walk over and attach him/herself to their mother's breast. I've seen mothers breast feed up to four year olds, and that just ain't right.

Actually that's perfectly alright and falls within the worldwide norm. Certainly not the American norm, but as the interviewee in the article mentions, there's a blatant Puritanical streak in the USA.

The World Health Organization recommends continuing breastfeeding through at least 2 years of age, breastmilk being the only recommended nourishment through the first 6 months of life.

[jeff061]

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

Hmm, I figured you would have run into this whenever you tried to interact with people outside of your cult.

Then again, everyone thinks Terpkristin's a bitch.



/not really.

[finketr]

Then again, everyone thinks Terpkristin's a bitch.


i don't.

but then again, according to my colleagues i am evil incarnate.

[jeff061]

To be clear, I wasn't being serious ;)

[Noddadropp]

Hmm, I figured you would have run into this whenever you tried to interact with people outside of your cult.

Then again, everyone thinks Terpkristin's a bitch.



/not really.

What cult would that be? I wasn't aware I belonged to any cult.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Under NDP's standard, apparently the mouth and ears are also sex organs and should never be seen in public or on a magazine cover. What I really find offensive is NDP's attitude on this issue. With that said, I would not shut him up for speaking it. But if he does speak it, he ought to be prepared for the other viewpoint.

I get a kick out of the U.S.'s puritanical views on not so much the sex thing, but nudity. It's really hilarious. Allowing kids access to movies, tv shows, and video games where countless acts of violence (realistic violence at that) is bypassed right over instead to outrage over a bum or a boob. Simply hilarious. For those bible scholars, you do know that Adam and Eve arrived on this planet completely nude, right?

[Noddadropp]

As far as I know, they had fig leafs. :)

Am I NDP?

Also, I'm a little confused. What is the standard that I've set that makes mouths and ears offensive? As far as I know, I've only discussed breasts and the male sexual organ.

[saldana]

What cult would that be? I wasn't aware I belonged to any cult.

i wasnt gonna get involved in this, but since TK has always been pretty nice, IMO, and you asked....

Polygamist gets 45 days for sex with teen bride
Investigator fears sentence sends wrong message
By Harriet Ryan
Court TV



Friday, August 4, 2006; Posted: 11:04 a.m. EDT (15:04 GMT)

(Court TV) -- An Arizona judge has sentenced a polygamist to 45 days in county jail for having sex with a teenager he took as his third wife.

The sentence disappointed authorities in Kingman, Arizona, who had hoped a harsher punishment for defendant Kelly Fischer would discourage others in the church from taking teenage wives.

Fischer was the first of seven members of the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints (FLDS) to be tried for plural marriages to minors.

"I don't know if we've sent a strong enough message to these people," said Gary Engels, an investigator with the Mohave County Attorney's office.

About 7,000 FLDS members live in the twin border towns of Colorado City, Arizona, and Hildale, Utah.

Members of the group, which broke with mainstream Mormons in the 1890s over polygamy, believe that only those in plural marriages can reach the highest level of heaven.

Warren Jeffs, the church leader or "prophet," is a federal fugitive from charges in both states stemming from his alleged arrangement of "celestial marriages" between teenage girls and older, married men.

The county prosecutor, Matt Smith, had asked Judge Steven Conn to sentence Fischer, 39, to some prison time. Fischer faced a minimum sentence of probation and a maximum of four years in prison.

As part of the sentence, Fischer must complete three years probation and register as a sex offender. He must report to jail by November 1.

Although polygamy is unconstitutional in Arizona, it is not a crime. Law enforcement largely left the FLDS alone until about 18 months ago, when Mohave County began investigating allegations of sex with underage girls.

Relying on birth certificates and testimony of former church members, a jury convicted Fischer last month of sexual contact with a minor and conspiracy for having sex with a 16-year-old.

The woman, now 21 and the mother of three children by Fischer, refused to cooperate with the prosecution and was among 130 people to send letters vouching for his character to the judge.

"We have a beautiful family together. I love my husband. He loves us and takes very good care of us. The children adore their father ... I don't need to explain my personal life to anyone," she wrote in the letter.

Fischer addressed the court for about a half hour, telling the judge that there was no coercion or abuse in his household.

"I can say for my life and my family that there's no one that's been pressured into doing anything they didn't want to do," the Las Vegas Review-Journal quoted Fischer as saying. "Every single person is very happy. There's no pain."

According to the paper, the judge told Fischer his religious beliefs did not justify breaking the law.

"There is no reason why people in Colorado City, simply because they subscribe to a different religious belief, should believe that they have the right to do something that everyone else in society cannot do," the judge said.

A day after the sentencing, Smith, the county prosecutor, was circumspect about the possible impact of any punishment handed down by an authority outside the insular community.

"I would've like to have seen him get more time, not so much that he needed to get it, but more along the lines of a deterrent factor," Smith said.

But, he said, "Does what we say really matter to them? It's what Warren Jeffs says that matters, and if he says marry a 16-year-old, then they are going to do that."

Another FLDS member, Donald Barlow, goes on trial on August 15.

[Noddadropp]

Since when did I belong to a fundamentalist mormon group that has been excommunicated for over 100 years?

Did one of you guys sign me up without my permission?

[saldana]

As far as I know, they had fig leafs. :)

Am I NDP?

Also, I'm a little confused. What is the standard that I've set that makes mouths and ears offensive? As far as I know, I've only discussed breasts and the male sexual organ.


and btw, the standard you set was in calling a breast a sexual organ, when it in no way has anything to do with sex, but only in stimulation...therefore, mouths and ears, which are also not sex organs, but are involved in stimulation, are also offensive....its called the transitive property i believe.

[JeeberD]

Those fuckers aren't representative of the vast majority of Mormons, saldana...

[Vinatieri for Prez]

As far as I know, they had fig leafs. :)

Am I NDP?

Also, I'm a little confused. What is the standard that I've set that makes mouths and ears offensive? As far as I know, I've only discussed breasts and the male sexual organ.

1. The fig leaves came later. I think you know that.

2. You obviously don't get out much if you're unclear the role the mouth and ears play in an active and healthy sex life.

[Noddadropp]

That's like one of you guys saying that you're Christian, and me automatically linking you with the people over at godhatesfags DOT com
They're a "Christian" group, too.

If you're going to debate, at least be intellectually honest during the process.


LINK EDITED BY SKYDOG. No links to questionable sites.

[Noddadropp]

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again? :)

[saldana]

Those fuckers aren't representative of the vast majority of Mormons, saldana...
of course i realize that....but i figured if NDP was going to make utterly ridiculous statements, i would too....turnabout is fairplay and all.

[ISiddiqui]

You obviously don't get out much if you're unclear the role the mouth and ears play in an active and healthy sex life.

LOL!

[JeeberD]

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again? :)


Uhhh...mmmkay.

[ISiddiqui]

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again? :)

WTF?!! I'm sorry, but were you dropped on your head as a child... or have you not had sex yet? I can't imagine anyone who has been sexually active saying there are no "sexual nerves" in the mouth or ears... WTF is a "sexual nerve" in the first place?!

[Vinatieri for Prez]

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again? :)

Wrong. But maybe if you're being taught sex ed in Texas, that might be true.

[saldana]

serious question for NDP, and i am not asking this to be judgemental, but to perhaps give those of us that are thinking of you as quite the troll right now a little perspective:

do you have any children?

if so, were they breastfed?

if not, have you been involved sexually with a woman? (again, this isnt a dig, i do know that Mormons hold their premarital sex stricture very seriously)

[saldana]

serious question for NDP, and i am not asking this to be judgemental, but to perhaps give those of us that are thinking of you as quite the troll right now a little perspective:

do you have any children?

if so, were they breastfed?

if not, have you been involved sexually with a woman? (again, this isnt a dig, i do know that Mormons hold their premarital sex stricture very seriously)

[Noddadropp]

If you guys are saying that there are sexual nerves in the mouth and ears, I really don't know what else to say. Ask any doctor, nurse, nursing assistant, hospital custodian, or any junior high student currently taking health and they'll confirm the lack of sexual nerves in the mouth and ears.

Just because you can USE your mouth for sex, and you can HEAR sex, doesn't mean there are sexual nerves inside those organs. I honestly can't believe I have to explain this to adults. But then again, there are still adults who call their genitals "hoo-hoos" and "ding-dongs."

[Noddadropp]

If you guys are saying that there are sexual nerves in the mouth and ears, I really don't know what else to say. Ask any doctor, nurse, nursing assistant, hospital custodian, or any junior high student currently taking health and they'll confirm the lack of sexual nerves in the mouth and ears.

Just because you can USE your mouth for sex, and you can HEAR sex, doesn't mean there are sexual nerves inside those organs. I honestly can't believe I have to explain this to adults. But then again, there are still adults who call their genitals "hoo-hoos" and "ding-dongs."

[Noddadropp]

Sorry about the duplicate post. My computer stalled

[JeeberD]

Have you ever kissed a woman? Or had a woman kiss/lick/nibble your ears? .

[ISiddiqui]

Have you ever kissed a woman? Or had a woman kiss/lick/nibble your ears? .

Obviously not. I wonder if he knows that there are women out there who get more turned on with deep kisses than having a man suck on her nipples.

[Noddadropp]

serious question for NDP, and i am not asking this to be judgemental, but to perhaps give those of us that are thinking of you as quite the troll right now a little perspective:

do you have any children?

if so, were they breastfed?

if not, have you been involved sexually with a woman? (again, this isnt a dig, i do know that Mormons hold their premarital sex stricture very seriously)

1) I'm not going to answer any of those questions. They are none of your business and have little to do with the topic at hand. My OPINION is that I don't want to see breastfeeding on the cover of a magazine. I'm entitled to my opinion as are you. Instead of maturely allowing me to disagree you have decided to immaturely ridicule my beliefs and inquire as to my sexual history.

2) Considering the immature, insulting, and vulgar responses to my beliefs, I find it hard to believe that out of all the posts in this topic, I'M considered a troll. If you think I'm a troll, I won't lose sleep. However I think you need to look at yourself before you start slinging accusations my way.

3) Sexual nerves and which organs they are present in is not up for debate, nor does my experience with women change the simple facts of biology. I don't need to convince you that your ears do not have sexual nerves in them. If you want to believe that your mouth and ears are wired in the same way as your genitals, more power to you.

[sabotai]

This thread is making me hot!!!

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

1) My OPINION is that I don't want to see breastfeeding on the cover of a magazine.
Then don't look. Simple solution.

You control what makes you comfortable or not, not some magazine publisher. If you're uncomfortable, be an adult and remove yourself from the situation. Stop trying to push your hang up with breastfeeding onto the rest of us.

[sabotai]

3) Sexual nerves and which organs they are present in is not up for debate, nor does my experience with women change the simple facts of biology. I don't need to convince you that your ears do not have sexual nerves in them. If you want to believe that your mouth and ears are wired in the same way as your genitals, more power to you.

How about you define what a "sexual nerve" is and link to sources of that definition.

I've searched Biology-Online (http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary.asp), BioTech's Life Science Dictionary (http://biotech.icmb.utexas.edu/search/dict-search.html), The Dictionary of Cell and Molecular Biology(http://www.mblab.gla.ac.uk/~julian/Dict.html), I even checked Dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster Online. None of them have an entry for "sexual nerve" or "sex nerve".

[dawgfan]

3) Sexual nerves and which organs they are present in is not up for debate, nor does my experience with women change the simple facts of biology. I don't need to convince you that your ears do not have sexual nerves in them. If you want to believe that your mouth and ears are wired in the same way as your genitals, more power to you.
No, they aren't wired the same as genitals - neither are breasts. But they all are erogenous zones, and stimulation of all of those areas can produce sexual excitement. Stimulation of all of them does not necessarily produce the same results, and effects vary from person to person, but saying the breast is sexual in the same way as a penis is incorrect, as is asserting that the breast is sexual and yet the mouth and ears are not.

You either got a lousy education in human sexuality or you're being willfully ignorant. Doesn't really matter to me either way - I'm not the one who's wildly misinformed on this topic.

[Noddadropp]

Then don't look. Simple solution.

You control what makes you comfortable or not, not some magazine publisher. If you're uncomfortable, be an adult and remove yourself from the situation. Stop trying to push your hang up with breastfeeding onto the rest of us.

Since when is simply disagreeing "pushing my hangup with breastfeeding onto the rest of you?"

The fact that many of you cannot tolerate a single differing opinion without calling it "preaching" or "pushing your hangups on us" is profoundly disturbing. You have different values than I do and I accept that. I don't think you're "pushing" them on me or shoving them down my throat. They're just different and I don't have a problem with you expressing them.

If there is intolerance here, it is coming from your direction, not mine.

[WVUFAN]

Dude, I had my education in West Virginia. We have "crecks" and "hollars", and the most common word here is "ain't", and even we ain't heard of no sex nerves.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Since when is simply disagreeing "pushing my hangup with breastfeeding onto the rest of you?"

The fact that many of you cannot tolerate a single differing opinion without calling it "preaching" or "pushing your hangups on us" is profoundly disturbing. You have different values than I do and I accept that. I don't think you're "pushing" them on me or shoving them down my throat. They're just different and I don't have a problem with you expressing them.

If there is intolerance here, it is coming from your direction, not mine.

You're absolutely right, there is intolerance coming from my direction.

I generally don't have much tolerance for stupid people. :)

[Noddadropp]

You're absolutely right, there is intolerance coming from my direction.

I generally don't have much tolerance for stupid people. :)

*shakes head*

Thank you for proving my point.

[cartman]

If you're going to debate, at least be intellectually honest during the process.

Such as your intellectually honest comparison that every one who disagrees with you must be a high schooler?

You have to first find the high road before you can claim to be taking it.

[Noddadropp]

Such as your intellectually honest comparison that every one who disagrees with you must be a high schooler?

You have to first find the high road before you can claim to be taking it.

The high-school comment refers to the immature name-calling and vulgarity in response to me expression my opinion. You know that.

Maturity and intellectual honesty: Am I really asking for so much?

[Desmond]

For fuck sakes. Dudes got his hands up, you can all stop shooting now.

[sterlingice]

I just wanted a chance to post this image since we're in a quasi-medical thread and all :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/smileys/medjournduh.jpg

Definitely one of the best Norm MacDonald moments

Well, a study this week reports seafood is good for you unless it's fried. Yet another groundbreaking story from the pages of the medical journal, "DUH" ... [Image of the October 1994 cover of DUH which features a photo of a doctor and lists a few articles: EXERCISE IS GOOD, MEDICINE CAN HELP, SMOKING IS BAD, EAT RIGHT FOR BETTER HEALTH and CANCER CAN CAUSE DEATH]

SI

[astrosfan64]

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

Why don't you just goto another message board if you hate this one so bad. I'm guessing this is one of the banned come back.

[thesloppy]

Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?

That's hardly an intellectually honest question, is it? More like a hand signed invitation for confrontation. Congratulations?

[molson]

Who knew that the people on this board were so passionate about breast feeding? Damn.

[PineTar]

Zoos should be banned. I once saw a mother gorilla breastfeeding its newborn. IN PUBLIC!!

[thesloppy]

Who knew that the people on this board were so passionate about breast feeding? Damn.

You got your once and future mothers, as well as your men who enjoy exposed breasts....it's a powerful constituency. Titties for president.

[illinifan999]

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard.

This is like the most overused reply to someone you don't agree with on the internet. There are so many more attempted flames you could use that would be much more creative such as

I wish there was a blender large enough to stuff you in.
Swallow a knife.
I'd like to stuff you in an 8x10 locked room with a very horny Ronaldinho.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Yeah, I'm leaving this debate, now that I heard NDP come up with new biology terms and no clue about human sexuality. Nothing but empty arguments, which on the surface appeal to the ignorant but yet have no basis in fact (and which I am convinced were foisted upon him at an early age), simply thrown out there to justify prudish behavior sought to be enforced against the general public who aren't scared of boobs and nudity in general. As crazy as it may sound, naked boobs (on the cover of a magazine or otherwise) will not bring down civilization. In fact, it enhances it.

[Toddzilla]

"sexual nerves" ??
"fig leafs" ??
"the male sex organ" ??

People, lay off this guy, he's COMEDY GOLD. Don't make him go away. I want to hear him chime in on the next Hot'or'Not when he sees a woman for the first time without a Burka.

[Pumpy Tudors]

For fuck sakes. Dudes got his hands up, you can all stop shooting now.
I submit that his hands aren't up yet. He may be outnumbered, but he's still firing.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

*shakes head*

Thank you for proving my point.

No need to thank me, you were doing just fine proving your point by simply posting. :)

[Glengoyne]

Actually that's perfectly alright and falls within the worldwide norm. Certainly not the American norm, but as the interviewee in the article mentions, there's a blatant Puritanical streak in the USA.

The World Health Organization recommends continuing breastfeeding through at least 2 years of age, breastmilk being the only recommended nourishment through the first 6 months of life.

Then I've got a hangup too. Seriously, if a kid can walk up to his mother lift up her shirt, manipulate the breast feeding bra, and latch on, he is well beyond the point of maturity where he should be weaned. As for the bit about the WHO. I think that is fine for most of the world, but they don't have Starbucks, Vons, or McDonalds. Here in the US, there are plenty of alternative nutrition options for toddlers.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Then I've got a hangup too. Seriously, if a kid can walk up to his mother lift up her shirt, manipulate the breast feeding bra, and latch on, he is well beyond the point of maturity where he should be weaned. As for the bit about the WHO. I think that is fine for most of the world, but they don't have Starbucks, Vons, or McDonalds. Here in the US, there are plenty of alternative nutrition options for toddlers.

Woah. You consider the food at Starbucks and McDonalds to be a "alternative nutrition option for toddlers"? :eek:

[flere-imsaho]

I've got to get me some of those "sexual nerves".

Raft Roger

Kinky. :D

And for the OP (and for MIJB, with whom I'm currently very disappointed* ) :

http://www.belgian-beer.net/images/belgianbeers.jpg


*Though I know you're not Belgian, right?

[Pumpy Tudors]

"No, sweetie, leave Mommy's nipple alone. Sit down, eat your Big Mac, and drink your venti mocha Frappuccino."

[Honolulu_Blue]

"No, sweetie, leave Mommy's nipple alone. Sit down, eat your Big Mac, and drink your venti mocha Frappuccino."

http://www.adhurl.com/uploads/fat_baby-thumb.jpg

HERCULES! HERCULES! HERCULES!

[Antmeister]

I'm sorry, but I am highly entertained by Noddadropp. Please don't drive him away because I am would love to see what his viewpoints are in a number of different subjects.

I have never heard of "sexual nerves" before and would like to be educated on how they are wired. I am also curious to find out if these sexual nerves run along the inner thigh as well.

I am curious how uncomfortable he would feel about a shirtless baby girl on the cover of a magazine clad only in a diaper. Would that be offensive or does age and development have a factor?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Do I have to be accepted by your group and be here for a long time before my opinions can be expressed? You said that people who have been around here are free to express their opinions because people know them. So, I ask you, am I a "troll" because I wanted to start jumping into the community right away instead of tucking my tail between my legs for a few months (or years), or am I a "troll" because you disagree with my opinion?

Hrmm. . .

[Mustang]

I think the song Sexual Healing is begging to be redone as Sexual Nerves or Sexual Nerve Endings or something along those lines.. :D

Oh.. and Nodda.. watch out for Pillow Pants, he's gonna getcha! :D

[Subby]

I think it is pretty funny that DD Porno Pad has pretty much united a completely fractured, polarized message board. :D

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I have never heard of "sexual nerves" before and would like to be educated on how they are wired. I am also curious to find out if these sexual nerves run along the inner thigh as well.
I agree. Are they like other nerves where there are clusters for important areas, but not others... or are they just for sex? What are the other sexual nerve areas?

Also... Why do we have these "sexual nerves?" Is it so that sex will supposedly feel good and the human species will get together and stimulate each other's "sexual nerves" resulting in offspring that must be bottle-fed a triple-venti white mocha?

[Draft Dodger]

I think it is pretty funny that DD Porno Pad has pretty much united a completely fractured, polarized message board. :D



and what does my family room have to do with all this?

[Eaglesfan27]

I do find it funny that this guy seems to have a problem typing Penis. I never learned about any "sexual nerves" in Medical School. There are sensory nerves in most parts of the body, some parts more than others. Sexual response is a complicated interaction between the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems which are the main components of the autonomic nerve system. There are no "sexual nerves."

[Subby]

I do love it when the good doctor gives one of his polite smackdowns. :D

[Suburban Rhythm]

I do find it funny that this guy seems to have a problem typing Penis. I never learned about any "sexual nerves" in Medical School. There are sensory nerves in most parts of the body, some parts more than others. Sexual response is a complicated interaction between the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems which are the main components of the autonomic nerve system. There are no "sexual nerves."

I might try that dirty talk on my wife! If that doesn't get her sexual nerves firing, nothing will...

[Antmeister]

I agree. Are they like other nerves where there are clusters for important areas, but not others... or are they just for sex? What are the other sexual nerve areas?

Also... Why do we have these "sexual nerves?" Is it so that sex will supposedly feel good and the human species will get together and stimulate each other's "sexual nerves" resulting in offspring that must be bottle-fed a triple-venti white mocha?

I am just trying to imagine someone telling a breast feeding mother to put away her sexual nerves. I would laughing and crying at the same time if I heard someone yell this.

"Excuse me, did you just frickin' touch my wife's sexual nerve!"

"Sir, I am a doctor. I am checking for lumps."

"You pluck that nerve one more time and she will have an orgasm. You damn pervert, I'm calling the cops!"

[Klinglerware]

http://myspace-269.vo.llnwd.net/00218/96/29/218639269_l.jpg

Sexual Nerves!

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SEXUAL NERVES!

[Samdari]

I think it is pretty funny that DD Porno Pad has pretty much united a completely fractured, polarized message board. :D

Its not him, its the sexual nerves he has awakened in all of us.

[Ksyrup]

I do find it funny that this guy seems to have a problem typing Penis. I never learned about any "sexual nerves" in Medical School. There are sensory nerves in most parts of the body, some parts more than others. Sexual response is a complicated interaction between the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems which are the main components of the autonomic nerve system. There are no "sexual nerves."

I was feeling parasympathetic toward DD Porno Pad, but then he kept posting. It didn't awaken any sexual feelings in me, though. My sexual nerves must be shot.

[WSUCougar]

Point 1: I disagree with Noddadrop's opinions, and he has made several ignorant statements in support of them.

Point 2: Noddadrop is entitled to post those opinions, just like everyone else.

Point 3: In posting opinions, one must be prepared to hear differing ones.

Point 4: Ignorant statements are by no means a rarity on FOFC.

Point 5: Is that baby really kissing someone's ass on that magazine cover?

[Antmeister]

... Point 5: Is that baby really kissing someone's ass on that magazine cover?

You do know that the arse is a sexual nerve, so it really doesn't matter. :D

[Draft Dodger]

babies also are sexual nerves

[Pumpy Tudors]

http://www.adhurl.com/uploads/fat_baby-thumb.jpg

HERCULES! HERCULES! HERCULES!
Whoa, where'd you find a baby picture of Claude Lemieux?

[WSUCougar]

That kid's bigger than Claude Lemieux

[BucDawg40]

This thread has delivered, big time!

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I do find it funny that this guy seems to have a problem typing Penis. I never learned about any "sexual nerves" in Medical School. There are sensory nerves in most parts of the body, some parts more than others. Sexual response is a complicated interaction between the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems which are the main components of the autonomic nerve system. There are no "sexual nerves."

Eagles, what are you talkin' about? As NDP said, any 7th grader can tell you that there are such sexual nerves and they reside in the breast and sex organs.

A very sad commentary that NDP actually believes this and credits the public school system with teaching him it. As I said before, clearly it was health ed. in Texas, or perhaps Miss.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

It also appears NDP has left the building. A very classic FOFC welcome: "Don't let the door hit you on the way out."

[BrianD]

It also appears NDP has left the building. A very classic FOFC welcome: "Don't let the door hit you on the way out."

I think this is a good example of why lurking for a while is a good idea before trying to join any community. You need to know how things generally work before trying to fit in. Also, it is a good way to decided if the community is even worth joining.

[duckman]

As I said before, clearly it was health ed. in Texas, or perhaps Miss.

After this comment, I hope you follow him right out the door.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

There was definitely some (but not all) sarcasm in that comment. Of course, we are talking about the whole we teach sex ed. with abstinence but without birth control thingy.

Plus, you're in OK anyways. What's with the bunched up panties anyway?

[Pumpy Tudors]

DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS

[dawgfan]

OH NOES, A BREST!
Still the definitive statement in this entire thread...

[sabotai]

The fact that many of you cannot tolerate a single differing opinion without calling it "preaching" or "pushing your hangups on us" is profoundly disturbing. You have different values than I do and I accept that. I don't think you're "pushing" them on me or shoving them down my throat. They're just different and I don't have a problem with you expressing them.

No one is attacking your beliefs or your opinions. No one gives a shit if you don't want to see a breast in public. It is your facts (or lack of), it is your absurd anaolgies that people are "attacking". The very first thing you analogized breastfeeding on the cover of a magazine to was showing a man masturbating on a magazine cover. A completely absurd anology, and many people tried to explain why to you. And then you start talking about the breast being a "sex organ" and it having "sexual nerves" in it. It is these things people are responding to, not your opinion.

Yet, you start whining about people attacking you and name-calling (while throwing out plenty of name-calling and attacks yourself) and cry about people disagreeing with your opinions.

Here's a 2 step program that will make you a better member of this community, and the rest of society for that matter.

1) Learn to tell the difference between someone attacking your opinion and someone objecting to/disagreeing with your analogies/facts.
2) Grow a thicker skin, or in your case, any kind of skin

[Mustang]

2) Grow a thicker skin, or in your case, any kind of skin

A thicker skin has shown to reduce the sensitivity of sexual nerves.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Ah, you beat me to it.

[saldana]

It also appears NDP has left the building. A very classic FOFC welcome: "Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
dont know how much of this was sarcasm, but i dont see that as the collective attitude around here at all...and i personally know that i dont purport it in the least...in this particular case, it was applied, but i think it was deserved in ever bit...not because NDP brought a different point of view to the table, but because he acted like an asshat while doing so. IMO, its pretty foolish to join a group of people like this and start pushing peoples buttons or partaking in asshattish behavior with zero understanding of the dynamics of the group....i lurked around for quite a while before i joined, and even after i was posting in fantasy football and werewolf threads, it was still quite a while before i became a bit "louder" in some of the more controversial conversations. that is commonsense, in my humble opinion, but apparently, knowing what sexual nerves are is common sense as well, so i am apparently lacking.

*steps off bully pulpit*

[Passacaglia]

Well, if the following is true...



...problems are likely to ensue.

I can see it now: ESPN reports that the Utah Sexual Nerves had defeated the Pittsfield (MA) Exposed Penises by a score of 2-1.

[cartman]

*steps off bully pulpit*

Shut yer pie-hole

:)

[Passacaglia]

I can see it now: ESPN reports that the Utah Sexual Nerves had defeated the Pittsfield (MA) Exposed Penises by a score of 2-1.

Major timestamp bug.

EDIT: looks like I have to wait 20 minutes before I can properly post my reply.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

dont know how much of this was sarcasm, but i dont see that as the collective attitude around here at all...and i personally know that i dont purport it in the least...in this particular case, it was applied, but i think it was deserved in ever bit...not because NDP brought a different point of view to the table, but because he acted like an asshat while doing so. IMO, its pretty foolish to join a group of people like this and start pushing peoples buttons or partaking in asshattish behavior with zero understanding of the dynamics of the group....i lurked around for quite a while before i joined, and even after i was posting in fantasy football and werewolf threads, it was still quite a while before i became a bit "louder" in some of the more controversial conversations. that is commonsense, in my humble opinion, but apparently, knowing what sexual nerves are is common sense as well, so i am apparently lacking.

*steps off bully pulpit*

Wasn't sarcastic, but accurate. I ageed with the welcome. The guy was an asshat. And on FOFC, if you show up as a newbie and act like an asshat, you will be shown the proverbial door quite quickly.

[Klinglerware]

Well, if the following is true...


I use ESPN for everything.


...problems are likely to ensue.

[RendeR]

On another note:

The state of Kansas, has passed a law that states breastfeeding is perfectly legal in public places or pretty much anywhere, to assist women who are harrassed by the closed minded of the world they give them "breastfeeding informational cards" to hand to people with the temerity to try and stop them, which help educate the ignorant about breastfeeding, as well as the LAW protecting their right to do so in public or otherwise.

Not sure how often I'll EVER say this: "GO KANSAS"

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

....i lurked around for quite a while before i joined, and even after i was posting in fantasy football and werewolf threads,

I think that should be a boxable offense. I move that all werewolf threads be banished from FOFC forever.

[RendeR]

I think that should be a boxable offense. I move that all werewolf threads be banished from FOFC forever.

SECONDED!!!

[saldana]

I think that should be a boxable offense. I move that all werewolf threads be banished from FOFC forever.

i would wager you would feel differently if you played one...you should try the one that is getting ready to start...its like online crack...you cant help but check the board every 5 minutes to see if anything new happened, even it means you arent getting any work done at your job. (like i would do that;) )

[terpkristin]

*sniff*

I love you guys and girls! :D

*wipes a tear from her eye*

:D

/tk

[Bonegavel]

why do men have nipples?

[Greyroofoo]

I will be perfectly happy if I never see the picture of that fat kid again.

[Bonegavel]

But then again, there are still adults who call their genitals "hoo-hoos" and "ding-dongs."

My daughter is 6 and we refer to them as:

In reference to me when she accidentally taps me out:
The twin mayors of dingletown
Ganip Ganopolis
Family jewels
OW GODDAMMIT!!!

This only comes up during bath time or making sure she wiped after taking a leak:

Hoochieville
Down there (done in a whisper voice while pointing you-know-where)
Pootie
You-know-what

[saldana]

in case anyone cares and missed it...our friend the enlightened anatomy major made some entertaining posts in the In a Rut thread.

*hands cracker to troll*

[path12]

*sniff*

I love you guys and girls! :D

*wipes a tear from her eye*

:D

/tk

Jerk. :D

[Craptacular]

I just wanted to post this classic from HA:
i mean this is the nicest possible way, Rizon:

i want to suckle from those things as she tells me everything is going to be all right.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I will be perfectly happy if I never see the picture of that fat kid again.

Why? His "sexual nerves" are bit too big and exposed for? Is that?!?! Come on! The kid can't help it. Just look at him. . .

http://www.adhurl.com/uploads/fat_baby-thumb.jpg

Poor, little Hercules.

He's just a toddler who's been sucking from the teet, I mean "sexual nerves" of Frappucinos and Big Macs and bears an eerily striking resemblence to a young Claude Lemieux.

(Thanks for that last bit, Pumpy. It made my day. :))

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

i would wager you would feel differently if you played one...you should try the one that is getting ready to start...its like online crack...you cant help but check the board every 5 minutes to see if anything new happened, even it means you arent getting any work done at your job. (like i would do that;) )

If one were say, interested in learning how this werewolf game is played, you know the rules....where would one find this?

[saldana]

If one were say, interested in learning how this werewolf game is played, you know the rules....where would one find this?

there is usually an explanation of the basic rules somewhere at the beginning of every game where there are new players involved, but if someone wanted to know the basics, i would happily send them a PM outlining what one would need to know to play a standard game.

[sterlingice]

If one were say, interested in learning how this werewolf game is played, you know the rules....where would one find this?

No, not you, too :eek:

SI

[Ksyrup]

If one were say, interested in learning how this werewolf game is played, you know the rules....where would one find this?

Don't give in to the temptation. Be strong!

[saldana]

Don't give in to the temptation. Be strong!

[yoda voice]the lure of the dark side very strong is...[/yoda voice]

[finketr]

If one were say, interested in learning how this werewolf game is played, you know the rules....where would one find this?



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!oneoneoneone111!!!!!!

get a tattoo or piercing... it's gotta be safer than the werewolf games!!1





that was fun to type.

[Greyroofoo]

Why? His "sexual nerves" are bit too big and exposed for? Is that?!?! Come on! The kid can't help it. Just look at him. . .

http://www.adhurl.com/uploads/fat_baby-thumb.jpg

Poor, little Hercules.

He's just a toddler who's been sucking from the teet, I mean "sexual nerves" of Frappucinos and Big Macs and bears an eerily striking resemblence to a young Claude Lemieux.

(Thanks for that last bit, Pumpy. It made my day. :))

I will never know happiness :(

[gottimd]

Boys have peenuses and girls have perchinas

[WSUCougar]

why do men have nipples?
'Cause we all start as the same

[Ksyrup]

'Cause we all start as the same

Yep. Just a tiny bundle of sexual nerves.

[DanGarion]

I highly recommend anyone to try and catch the movie "Busting Out" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419615/ if you are interested in the fact that breasts are non sexual in most societies. I saw it on Showtime last night with the wife. I just had to post about it here since we were just talking about this.

[Noddadropp]

Sounds titillating.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Sounds titillating.
Worst gimmick account ever.

[Noddadropp]

Worst gimmick account ever.

It was just a pun, and not a very good one. Relax Pompous.

[Pumpy Tudors]

It was just a pun, and not a very good one. Relax Pompous.
Pompous? OH I GET IT. BECAUSE IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE "PUMPY"

lmao

[Noddadropp]

Pompous? OH I GET IT. BECAUSE IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE "PUMPY"

lmao

I'm glad you liked it :) I was afraid I was going to have to explain it to you.

[Pumpy Tudors]

rofl

[Toddzilla]

Sounds titillating.
Worst gimmick account ever.
"

[Noddadropp]

See? Even Toddzilla is getting into the swing of it! Changing names is fun :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

Can we get an IP check on aisle 5, please?

[Noddadropp]

Why? Because you can only dish it out? Just relax. People were changing my name WAY earlier in this thread. I didn't get ticked.

Just smile and have fun. That's the best way to live anyways. Not spreading around negativity and trying to bring others down.

[rkmsuf]

pumpy's negativity pumps my nads

[Pumpy Tudors]

Why? Because you can only dish it out? Just relax. People were changing my name WAY earlier in this thread. I didn't get ticked.

Just smile and have fun. That's the best way to live anyways. Not spreading around negativity and trying to bring others down.
How do you feel about Michelle Wie?

[Noddadropp]

How do you feel about Michelle Wie?

I think she's cute, but a bit young for me. But I have a soft spot for asian women.

What do you think of Debrah Messing?

[Pumpy Tudors]

What do you think of Debrah Messing?
Garbage. I bet her sexual nerves droop so low that they're practically touching her other sexual nerves.

[Noddadropp]

I won't take the bait, although you are the master baiter.

[dawgfan]

I won't take the bait, although you are the master baiter.
HA-HA!!! LOL!!! OMG!!! YOU ARE TEH FUNNY!!!

[Noddadropp]

Glad you liked it :)

[gottimd]

I won't take the bait, although you are the master baiter.

I don't get it, are you saying Pumpy is an expert fisherman?:D

[Subby]

Nice to see that Bubba Wheels and Anne Coulter got fucked up on wine coolers, had Gilligan-style sex, then spawned a demon love child 666 minutes later.

[Noddadropp]

Who's Bubba Wheels? I know who Anne Coulter is. She's nasty.

[Lorena]

I'm waiting to see Noddadropp slip and post as HellAtlantic.

[DanGarion]

I'm waiting to see Noddadropp slip and post as HellAtlantic.
Eh it can't be HA, HA has more imagination then this guy.

[Lorena]

Eh it can't be HA, HA has more imagination then this guy.

Just a thought. I see Noddadrop and HA on at the same time, so it doesn't seem possible.

[Noddadropp]

Do I have to be some sort of "spy" just because I didn't agree with the main point of this thread? Talk about paranoid.

[Toddzilla]

As long as we keep this asshat's post confined to this thread only, I think we're okay. If he starts to infect the rest of the board, then we have a real problem.

[Lorena]

As long as we keep this asshat's post confined to this thread only, I think we're okay. If he starts to infect the rest of the board, then we have a real problem.

Too late, he's participating in the Werewolf thread and the Maurice Clarette thread. It's almost like a virus... spreading.

[BrianD]

Too late, he's participating in the Werewolf thread and the Maurice Clarette thread. It's almost like a virus... spreading.

Isn't this what the 'Ignore' feature is for?

[Noddadropp]

I didn't realize my posts were any more idiotic than many others I've read on here. You won't break my heart if you ignore me. I imagine I'll find some way to survive. :)

[BrianD]

This message is hidden because Noddadropp is on your ignore list.

Much better.

[DanGarion]

I didn't realize my posts were any more idiotic than many others I've read on here. You won't break my heart if you ignore me. I imagine I'll find some way to survive. :)
I'm still waiting for your first redeeming post. Anyone care to set up a pool for it? I'm thinking at around 107 you might actually post something redeeming, but you might surprise me.

[Noddadropp]

What would you consider redeeming? (I fixed your spelling error)

[Subby]

(I fixed your spelling error)Not that.

[DanGarion]

What would you consider redeeming? (I fixed your spelling error)
I'll leave that up to the rest of the board.

[flere-imsaho]

What would you consider redeeming? (I fixed your spelling error)

http://kamilewicz.org/albums/misc/logout.gif

[Noddadropp]

I'll leave that up to the rest of the board.

You're going to let the rest of the board tell you what YOU personally find redeeming? Don't be a sheep! :)

[DanGarion]

You're going to let the rest of the board tell you what YOU personally find redeeming? Don't be a sheep! :)
No, I've lost interest in your development...