Werewolf XXXI: House of Frankenstein (Game Over)

[st.cronin]

Game will start next Monday. Rules etc. will be posted soon - they are basically ready to go. This will be a very SIMPLE game, basically just villagers and wolves. It will be an excellent game for beginners, I hope. I'd like to get at least 14 players.

1. Anxiety - killed by Count Dracula Night 4, villager
2. Chubby - staked, day 2, villager
3. Swaggs - killed, night 6 villager
4. tanglewood - Dr. Reimann
5. GoldenEagle - killed, night 3 villager
6. Alan T - killed, night 2, villager
7. Chief Rum - wolf
8. Lathum - staked, day 3, villager
9. Blade - staked, day 4, villager
10. Bulletsponge - wolf
11. molson - staked, day 7 villager
12. path12 - killed, night 4 villager
13. fouts - killed by Frankenstein's monster, night 3 villager
14. greyroofoo - killed, night 5 COUNT DRACULA
15. farrah - staked, day 5 villager
16. sndvls - villager
17. Barkeep - staked, day 8 villager
18. noddadropp - staked, Day 1 villager
19. dodgerchick - killed, night 7 mason
20. daddytorgo - killed, night 8 villager
21. grammaticus - staked, Day 6 mason
22. saldana - killed, Night 1 villager

Has the Curse returned? Your village, seemimgly free from the ravages of the past, when it was haunted by vampires, werewolves, and the devilish Dr. Frankenstein, has once again become a frightful place. Corpses of dogs and sheep have been discovered - in some cases, skinned and disemboweled. Several of your cattle have been found exsanguinated, as well. Could this be the work of Count Dracula, long thought dead? Or have the werewolves, which in generations past plagued your village, returned?

News has reached your village that the insane Doctor Reimann has escaped the asylum where he was confined; quickly you organize your defenses, blocking the roads and posting a watch. Now, nobody can get in or out of your village.

You awake the next day to discover that, despite your precautions, Death has visited your village with violence; st.cronin has been discovered, in his home, torn to pieces. You look around, fear in your heart, paranoia in your eyes. Could the wolves be back? Is Dr. Reimann hiding amongst you, contributing to the mayhem in some way? And what of Count Dracula - could he have returned as well?

Rules: Everybody is presumed a villager. It is not known how many wolves are hiding in your midst. Each day you will vote on one suspect - the lucky winner will have a stake driven through their heart, and will no longer be playing the game. Villagers win when all wolves and Count Dracula have been staked or otherwise eliminated. Wolves and their allies win when the ratio of wolves to humans is 1:1. Each day will end at 9pm Eastern time, which is 7pm my time. Votes cast at 9:01 Eastern time or later will not count. Votes must be in bold. Night actions will be due by 9:00am Eastern time.


Villager Roles:

Villager - no special abilities.
Masons - have seen each other at mason meetings, and know they are not guilty of any crimes. Tie votes will be broken by the masons, without revealing their identity. No pm capabilities, and if they reveal that they are a mason, they will die a horrible death.


Wolf Roles:

Wolf - no special abilities. Do not know who their allies are, and have no way of finding out. The wolves must kill one and only one player per night.
Dr. Reimann - Doctor Reimann has unleashed the pack of wolves and the vampire upon your village. He does not know any player's role at the start of the game, but each night he may test one player's blood, to determine what species that player is. Also, once in the game he can change the result of the vote without revealing his identity by swapping out one player for another. Finally, after night 2, he can summon the Frankenstein monster once to kill whomever he wishes. Counts as a human in determining victory.
Count Dracula - does not know who the wolves are, or who Dr. Reimann is. Gets one night kill in the game. Counts as a wolf in determining victory.

[Abe Sargent]

IN

[Chubby]

In!

[Swaggs]

In.

[Barkeep49]

Due to my schedule I'm out. But I plan on being a smart alec observer as much as I can manage.

[tanglewood]

I'll be in on this.

[st.cronin]

Due to my schedule I'm out. But I plan on being a smart alec observer as much as I can manage.

Sorry to hear that. Unlike some recent games, this one won't require a huge time commitment from anybody. You can play like Schmidty did this game and not hurt your team.

[GoldenEagle]

How do i play?

[st.cronin]

How do i play?

You'll find out. ;)

[Barkeep49]

Sorry to hear that. Unlike some recent games, this one won't require a huge time commitment from anybody. You can play like Schmidty did this game and not hurt your team.
I can't make any reasonable promise to be around at all after say 8 AM Eastern until say 11 PM Eastern (or even later). Just doesn't seem to work on our schedule.

[Barkeep49]

How do i play?
You try and find bad guys by reading posts. You post Vote Lathum and then a whole bunch of other people agree and you win the game.

[GoldenEagle]

So all I have to do is say Vote Lathum and I win?

[Alan T]

I'll play

[Barkeep49]

So all I have to do is say Vote Lathum and I win?
Well it's slightly more complex then that, but you can't go wrong with that strategy.

[GoldenEagle]

Well it's slightly more complex then that, but you can't go wrong with that strategy.

Then why the hell are these threads so popular?

[Barkeep49]

Then why the hell are these threads so popular?
Because, despite my somewhat flippant response, it is a simple concept that leads to an intense psychological battle of wits. Try a game and see for yourself.

[Chubby]

Because, despite my somewhat flippant response, it is a simple concept that leads to an intense psychological battle of wits. Try a game and see for yourself.I send you to bribe GoldenEagle with an offer of ONE GOLD!

[GoldenEagle]

I send you to bribe GoldenEagle with an offer of ONE GOLD!

One gold, eh? Well, that is better than not having any gold I suppose.

[Poli]

Good luck fellas. I'll be lurking.

[Abe Sargent]

I send you to bribe GoldenEagle with an offer of ONE GOLD!


HAHAHHAHA

[SackAttack]

Because, despite my somewhat flippant response, it is a simple concept that leads to an intense psychological battle of wits. Try a game and see for yourself.

But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemies? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool--you would have counted on it--so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me!

[Chief Rum]

I had fun in the last one, so I will give this one a go, too.

[Lathum]

You try and find bad guys by reading posts. You post Vote Lathum and then a whole bunch of other people agree and you win the game.
should I even bother signing up ?


I'm in

[hoopsguy]

GoldenEagle, there is basically one concept, depending on what team you are on:

Good guy - figure out who is a bad guy, and get enough people to vote for him. You can either be a leader (try to do the detective work) or a follower (listen to someone else) in this process.

Bad guy - you know who the other bad guys are, so get the good guys to vote for anyone but the bad guys. Again, you can either be vocal in messing with people or just sit back and let them mess up on their own.

Again, it is more complex than this. The rules for each game are different, and provide some kind of framework for how you detect your enemies or fool your enemies. As you play more of these games, you begin to realize who are the biggest liars are at FOFC. And you tend to vote for them first in the next game you play.

[Lathum]

GoldenEagle, there is basically one concept, depending on what team you are on:

Good guy - figure out who is a bad guy, and get enough people to vote for him. You can either be a leader (try to do the detective work) or a follower (listen to someone else) in this process.

Bad guy - you know who the other bad guys are, so get the good guys to vote for anyone but the bad guys. Again, you can either be vocal in messing with people or just sit back and let them mess up on their own.

Again, it is more complex than this. The rules for each game are different, and provide some kind of framework for how you detect your enemies or fool your enemies. As you play more of these games, you begin to realize who are the biggest liars are at FOFC. And you tend to vote for them first in the next game you play.


I resent that comment :)

[Schmidty]

I started yet another new job this past week (on wednesday), and am having some "issues" at home, so I was very inactive last game. I feel horrible about it because it wasn't fair to you guys, so I'm thinking I probably shouldn't play this game, even though I want to. :(

[Blade6119]

Im ready to get lynched on day 1 again, count me in

[Chief Rum]

I started yet another new job this past week (on wednesday), and am having some "issues" at home, so I was very inactive last game. I feel horrible about it because it wasn't fair to you guys, so I'm thinking I probably shouldn't play this game, even though I want to. :(

Schmidty, maybe you can contact st. cronin and see if he has a role for a limited availability player? Or can put you someplace where being able to participate less won't be as much of an issue. He did say this would be a simpler game.

[Abe Sargent]

True That.

[Abe Sargent]

Besides, Schmidity was the GM of my first game, you deflowered me!!!

[bulletsponge]

ill join in, lets hope i can play this time

[molson]

Count me in - I'll make my Werewolf debut

[Barkeep49]

I'm glad to see these new WW players. ANd if the need anyone outside of the game to help, Golden Eagle and molson should feeel free to drop me a PM with questions during the game and I will respond overnight.

[Alan T]

I'm glad to see these new WW players. ANd if the need anyone outside of the game to help, Golden Eagle and molson should feeel free to drop me a PM with questions during the game and I will respond overnight.


What if I need help? :(

[hoopsguy]

If you are a bad guy, figure out who I would kill. Then go with some other plan.

Happy to provide a service :)

[Lathum]

I'm glad to see these new WW players. ANd if the need anyone outside of the game to help, Golden Eagle and molson should feeel free to drop me a PM with questions during the game and I will respond overnight.
can you help me avoid getting lynched the first day?

[saldana]

in

[saldana]

me too

[path12]

In please.

[Fouts]

Looks like this thread needs help. I'll join.

[Poli]

If you are a bad guy, figure out who I would kill. Then go with some other plan.

Happy to provide a service :)WWHD?

[Greyroofoo]

My sexual nerves shall finally succumb to a werewolf game.

In

[Alan T]

Evidentally St.cronin got eaten by a werewolf.. It must be our job to figure out who did it!

Vote Lathum

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

I may regret this later...but I'll embrace what I mock.

I'm in.

[SnDvls]

since it looks like a good group of new/old I have to get in on this.

in

[Chubby]

Vote Farrah!

[Schmidty]

If it's ok, I guess I'll be in.

Things have calmed a bit, so I should be more active this time.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Vote Farrah!

A little lynching might be fun ;)

[Noddadropp]

I'll give it a shot.

[Lathum]

good turnout so far. Look out for she-rahn, redheads can't be trusted

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

good turnout so far. Look out for she-rahn, redheads can't be trusted

You can trust me. :D

[Lorena]

I don't know how to play, but since all these newbies are joining, what the hell... can I still join?

[Alan T]

I don't know how to play, but since all these newbies are joining, what the hell... can I still join?


I'm guessing you can. And if St.Cronin has only limited spots (which I doubt), I'll happily give up a spot for a first time player. I doubt that will be needed though!

Now we just need St.cronin to return and get this thing rolling :)

[Lathum]

I don't know how to play, but since all these newbies are joining, what the hell... can I still join?
chicks dig werewolf :)

[saldana]

DC, i am sure you are ok as far as being in...with you we are up to 18...thats a very good number to play with....now the only problem we have with DC and Farrah playing is.....what the hell is the feminine of Werewolf?

[saldana]

dola, later on i will post a general primer for all the new players that are in this game....everyone, feel free to ask any questions you may have before we start.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

She-Wolf?

[saldana]

She-Wolf?

i was thinking werewolfette :D

[Lathum]

mother-wolfer?

[Lathum]

Evidentally St.cronin got eaten by a werewolf.. It must be our job to figure out who did it!

Vote Lathum
wrf did I do to you ?

:(

[Lathum]

wtf?

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Do we have to run the next werewolf game if we win? I don't really have time to run the game...

[hoopsguy]

Looks like this would be a fun game with all the newcomers. I'll be reading along with interest.

Farrah, running a game is a voluntary deal and doesn't have anything to do with winning or losing the previous game. Although for some people who obsess over this stuff it actually takes more time to play the game than to run one ...

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

K, thx. :)

[Schmidty]

redheads can't be trusted

Correct. Nothing that comes out of my mouth/keyboard in WW is the truth.

[Lorena]

Correct. Nothing that comes out of my mouth/keyboard in WW is the truth.

Hmm... something tells me I should remember that :rolleyes:

[Schmidty]

Hmm... something tells me I should remember that :rolleyes:

Nah, don't worry about it. I won't lead you astray, since you're a noob. :)

[path12]

Nah, don't worry about it. I won't lead you astray, since you're a noob. :)

Yes he will.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Nah, don't worry about it. I won't lead you astray, since you're a noob. :)

See, lying already. :p

[Lathum]

just a reminder to all the newbies you can't use the edit button under any circumstances

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Good thing, cause I don't have one.

[hoopsguy]

Most people, although perhaps not Schmidty, have to actually post during the day to lead someone astray :p

[Lorena]

just a reminder to all the newbies you can't use the edit button under any circumstances

Really? I didn't know that... how come?

[saldana]

Correct. Nothing that comes out of my mouth/keyboard in WW is the truth.

yes there is...all the times that you say you suck at WW are absolutely the truth:p

[saldana]

Really? I didn't know that... how come?

so that you cant post something for someone that is in the thread to read, then change it by editing it out, keeping everyone not currently in the thread from seeing it.

[DaddyTorgo]

sure...what the fuck...i'm in

[saldana]

i see you lurking there Vinatieri for Prez.....do it.....DOOOOO it....you know you want to....just type "i'm in"......its really easy......

[DaddyTorgo]

dola

but only if i can be a bad guy.

Let the battle of wits begin!!;)

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I'm out. Sorry.

[Barkeep49]

Wow. The group of this game is getting better and better. Props to cronin for drawing in all these new players.

[DaddyTorgo]

Wow. The group of this game is getting better and better. Props to cronin for drawing in all these new players.

i only said i was in cuz it was a "new players welcome" game and it looks like there's a bunch of first-timers so i won't feel bad if i hafta ask a million questions or whatever. the regular games had become way too intimidating for a WW-newb.

[Lathum]

I just wanna throw out there once I am out of the game I am more then willing to help the newer players

[path12]

I just wanna throw out there once I am out of the game I am more then willing to help the newer players

I'll second that.

[Schmidty]

yes there is...all the times that you say you suck at WW are absolutely the truth:p

I agree.

Or do I?

Yes.

No?

Infinite loop.

[Schmidty]

I just wanna throw out there once I am out of the game I am more then willing to help the newer players

Does that offer stand for crappy players too? I am not too proud. ;)

[Lorena]

I just wanna throw out there once I am out of the game I am more then willing to help the newer players

I'll second that.

I agree.

Or do I?

Yes.

No?

Infinite loop.

Aha... so every man/woman or werewolf/wolfette/villager for themselves until someone gets voted off?

Pretty sneaky http://static.computergames.ro/cg/forum/images/smilies/mischeif.gif

[path12]

Aha... so every man/woman or werewolf/wolfette/villager for themselves until someone gets voted off?

Pretty sneaky http://static.computergames.ro/cg/forum/images/smilies/mischeif.gif


Trust no one.


Well, except me. I never lie.

[ratpfink]

This sounds like a fun game, I'd like to try it.

When can I start voting for path12?

[Lorena]

I'm gonna ask a really stupid question since I have no clue how to play this thing: Is this game kind of like finding "The Mole"? So far, I've heard people get voted off but don't know how or why. It kinda sounds like everyone fends for themselves...

[Blade6119]

I'm gonna ask a really stupid question since I have no clue how to play this thing: Is this game kind of like finding "The Mole"? So far, I've heard people get voted off but don't know how or why. It kinda sounds like everyone fends for themselves...
Heres a very general idea.

Generally, there is a group of 15-20 players. Of those, generally 3 belong to a faction known as Warewolves. It is the objective of those 3 to get to a 1-1 ratio with the other 12-17 players. Sounds hard, but the evil side wins more often then not. They have certain advantages, such as knowing eachothers identities and being able to talk freely by PM(or aim, if preferable). The 12-17, or the villagers, do not know each other, and cannot speak to each other outside of the thread. Every day there is a lynch based off of majority votes wins, and every night the bad guys get to kill a villager(so if we dont kill a bad guy during lynch, basically we lose 2 good guys a day). Cycle goes day-night-day-night. So basically, it is the objective of the wolves to lie and cheat their way to victory by earning then betraying the villagers trust at the most opportune times.

The good have roles to help them as well though, such as a seer who every night can learn a players role, a bodyguard who can protect 1 person every night from night kill, and a duke who once a game can change the lynch victim to whomever he choses.

Basically, trust no one and always keep your victory condition in mind. And when i say trust no one, i mean except me obviously.

Hope you followed along somewhat. The complex games can vary from this, but its a pretty solid basis for this particular game.

[path12]

This sounds like a fun game, I'd like to try it.

When can I start voting for path12?

Rat? I didn't know you were around here! Sandbagger. ;)

[Swaggs]

Any ETA on this?

[molson]

Any ETA on this?

I think it was supossed to be Monday, but St.cronin hasn't posted anywhere since he started this thread.

[saldana]

i have a feeling RL is having an influence on the start of the game...either that or Cronin went to patriots camp to massage Tom Bradys' arm

[path12]

Tom Brady = overrated.


(if that doesn't get him to post nothing will)

[Noddadropp]

Has this been canceled or just delayed? I'd like to know if I'm on the list. I hope everything's ok for him in the real world.

[Alan T]

Just been delayed a bit. St.cronin hasnt been around. Usually if this happens, we give them a little time and if they do not show up we'll likely have someone else run a game and let St.cronin have a chance when he's back.

Hopefully he'll show up this week, this looks like it will be fun with all the new people.

[Fouts]

Vote Fouts

[bulletsponge]

wow this is going to be an interesting werewolf game, lots of peeps and some newbies too. and several werewolfettes :cool: . finaly some fresh meat i can beat.

btw is Chubby in this game, i want my sweet revenge thats been building for several games :mad:

[saldana]

has anyone heard from cronin???

if he doesnt appear by the end of the week, if people would like, since there are so many people signed up expecting a simple basic game, i would be able to drop out of the game and run it as such, starting sunday night for night 0, and we can maybe just drop cronin to the next game in the order...

i dont want to piss anyone off, just trying to help since we dont know what the deal is right now, so please everyone, let me know if we all think this is a good idea or not.

[Fouts]

Sounds good. Make everyone good guys and watch us kill each other off.

[saldana]

Sounds good. Make everyone good guys and watch us kill each other off.
lol

[saldana]

dola, my next game theme came to me in a revalation last night, but it would be a little more complex than what i would do for this game, so it will have to wait til i put my name on the list.

[Alan T]

yeah if we dont hear from cronin this week at all, sounds like a good plan sal

[Lathum]

works for me. I hope cronin is ok

[tanglewood]

I'm next in the queue to host, but as my plan is for a more complicated game I think it would be best if a simpler one was ran considering all the new folk. If Cronin doesn't post in the next couple of days I have no problem with you taking over Saldana.

[Chubby]

bullet - I'm not in this game. Nope, not in at all. Just ignore all my posts in this thread so you don't get confused.

[Grammaticus]

I'll play if there are any openings.

[Abe Sargent]

Welcome!!!

[ratpfink]

I'll have to drop out of this one. I was hoping it would have started by now, but it hasn't. I'm going out of town Sunday-Wednesday and will have extremely limited internet access. I'll get path12 in the next one.

[Lorena]

has anyone heard from cronin???

if he doesnt appear by the end of the week, if people would like, since there are so many people signed up expecting a simple basic game, i would be able to drop out of the game and run it as such, starting sunday night for night 0, and we can maybe just drop cronin to the next game in the order...

i dont want to piss anyone off, just trying to help since we dont know what the deal is right now, so please everyone, let me know if we all think this is a good idea or not.

I'm down with that.

[Lorena]

dola,

Hope cronin is alright.

[saldana]

at this point the reemergence of cronin has yet to occur...keep an eye on page one of this thread tonight, and i will edit my "in" post with the scenario and rule set....roles to go out sunday during the day, night 0 that evening, and day one starting monday morning.

[molson]

at this point the reemergence of cronin has yet to occur...keep an eye on page one of this thread tonight, and i will edit my "in" post with the scenario and rule set....roles to go out sunday during the day, night 0 that evening, and day one starting monday morning.

Works for me - thanks for picking this up.

[Greyroofoo]

saldana's a werewolf!

[saldana]

saldana's a werewolf!


keep it up and i will do what fouts suggested at the top of this page.:D

[DaddyTorgo]

where's cwonin? :(

[Lorena]

So is this the time when we say

Vote Lathum?

:D

[Lathum]

WTF?

I better not be the first to go considering who is pla

[saldana]

So is this the time when we say

Vote Lathum?

:D
not yet.....but soon

[saldana]

please see post 37!!!

[saldana]

convenient for me that i have two posts on the first page that i can edit since i checked in twice.

[Greyroofoo]

note: avoid posting here while drunk
note: avoid posting here while drunk
note: avoid posting here while drunk
note: avoid posting here while drunk
note: avoid posting here while drunk


unless of course I get the part of the village drunk ;)

[st.cronin]

sorry for the long absence folks ... I have been on vacation, and had no net access, much to my dismay ... I'll post an update later tonight.

[st.cronin]

dola

sending a pm to saldana

[Blade6119]

interesting twist....its not even day 1 yet and we have 2 players with with conflicting stories both trying to claim the same role. Only in WW :)

[Chief Rum]

interesting twist....its not even day 1 yet and we have 2 players with with conflicting stories both trying to claim the same role. Only in WW :)

Hey, you're right.

Vote Blade

I don't like to be confused.

[bulletsponge]

ok i am not a wolf. now if you will excuse me im off to lick myself ;)

[saldana]

obviously, with the return of st. cronin, i am out as the GM. please ignore post 37, as i will edit it out later, and this game belongs to him.

glad to have you back, and please put me back on the player roster (that part of post 37 is accurate).

[st.cronin]

Thanks very much to saldana for keeping this going while I was gambling in Vegas. I've got the game set to go, rules will be posted and roles sent out within the hour.

[st.cronin]

Roles are sent out. If I did not send you a role, pm me. If you have any questions on your role, pm me. If you have questions about the rules, you may either pm me or post in thread. There is no night 0. Day 1 will end at 9:00pm Eastern Time Monday, unless there is consensus to end earlier.

[st.cronin]

A couple more notes:

There is NO EDITING OF POSTS from this thread on. If you need to, use the quote function.

Also there is no quoting of pms. If you wish to post something and you are unsure, pm me first.

[Alan T]

Villager checking in. Welcome back Cronin!

[path12]

Another villager checking in. How was Vegas?

[st.cronin]

Another villager checking in. How was Vegas?

The Golden Nugget was a fucking GOLD MINE for st.cronin. Aces and faces all night. Overall, a fantastic trip.

[Blade6119]

I am a villager

[Blade6119]

And this has been coming to him ever since he killed me in egypt

VOTE LATHUM

[Chief Rum]

Let the Lathum-Blade war begin.

I am also a villager. Is this necessary? Aren't we all outwardly villagers anyway?

In any case, I am here and looking around at everyone suspiciously. :)

[Lathum]

Simple villager checking in. I'll save my vote for Blade for later as tempting as it is to vote for him. For now I am going for the person who will probably be the most annoying throughout the game.

VOTE NODDADROP

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Yet another villager. Which is kinda disappointing cause I really wanted to be a werewolf.

[Grammaticus]

Villager checking in. Since there is no night round, might as well lay a random vote down.

VOTE SNDVLS

[Swaggs]

Villager here.

Checking in.

[Greyroofoo]

Everyone who's a werewolf say "I"

[bulletsponge]

Village peep here, gotta get my random vote in

Vote Chubby

this vote may change

[molson]

Villager here - I say we knock off some of the WW veterans early, before they can screw with our heads and whatnot.

[hoopsguy]

Kill the vets!

[Chubby]

villager here.

Vote bulletsponge

[DaddyTorgo]

villager checking in here. Hmmmm. I guess totally at random...

vote blade

[Lorena]

Villager here

[bulletsponge]

my router went out so i finally got back on ( got new router). i see Chubby is trying to whack me off again. other than that it seems very quiet. typical for 1st day of WW. i hope i survive long enough this game to see some sh*t hit the fan :)

[Grammaticus]

Yes, down with the vets!

[tanglewood]

But think of the poor animals!

Interesting that, if I've read the rules correctly, the werewolves cannot communicate or know each other. If that's so, analysing voting records becomes much less important.

[GoldenEagle]

I am a villager.

[st.cronin]

But think of the poor animals!

Interesting that, if I've read the rules correctly, the werewolves cannot communicate or know each other. If that's so, analysing voting records becomes much less important.

The werewolves can communicate with each other. Their allies (Count Dracula, Dr. Neimann) cannot communicate with each other or the wolves.

[tanglewood]

The werewolves can communicate with each other. Their allies (Count Dracula, Dr. Neimann) cannot communicate with each other or the wolves.

Aha, ok scrap that. I read 'do not know who their allies are' as if it included their fellow wolves. I thought it was a bit odd.

[Fouts]

Villager checking in.

[Abe Sargent]

A bit of a porblem with the boards today, so I'm in and out

[saldana]

villager checking in....day one is gonna be hard for me to decide who to vote for...i think i will sleep on it.

[Swaggs]

This one sounds like it has the potential to be a bloodbath, free-for-all with each of the bad guys getting a kill each night.

I'm not really sure what to think about this just yet, as it seems likely that we will see a lot of random deaths in the first night or two.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

It's going to take reminder or two to stop skipping over the werewolf threads.

[Lathum]

It's going to take reminder or two to stop skipping over the werewolf threads.
stop skipping over werewolf threads

[st.cronin]

This one sounds like it has the potential to be a bloodbath, free-for-all with each of the bad guys getting a kill each night.

I'm not really sure what to think about this just yet, as it seems likely that we will see a lot of random deaths in the first night or two.

The wolves get one kill collectively, not one kill each.

[Greyroofoo]

It's going to take reminder or two to stop skipping over the werewolf threads.

stop skipping over werewolf threads


there;s your second reminder

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Thanks :)

[Chief Rum]

Checking out for the day. I'm off to work (both jobs) and won't be back until Night 1 in the game (so no vote from me either).

So don't lynch me just because I am strangely silent. :)

[GoldenEagle]

How do we vote?

[st.cronin]

How do we vote?

You vote by posting

Vote st.cronin

in bold.

If you wish to change your vote, you can do so by then making a different post like this

unvote st.cronin

vote jbmagic

[Grammaticus]

UNVOTE SNDVLS

VOTE CHIEF RUM
For not voting on day one. May change this if CR decides to vote.

[path12]

I'm going to have limited availability today, so in the meantime:

Vote Schmidty

[Schmidty]

I'm going to have limited availability today, so in the meantime:

Vote Schmidty

F U path. According to my 4 word PM, I'm a Villager.

Vote path12

[GoldenEagle]

Vote molson

[saldana]

for our collective rookies....day one is always a pretty random disaster...we dont know anything about anyone at this point, so it is basically a crapshoot in voting. usually we just vote for someone that we have a grudge against from an earlier game.

[Grammaticus]

Vote molson
You just wanted "Molson" and "Golden" to be in the same post :)

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

For getting me sucked into this game...

vote Saldana

[saldana]

For getting me sucked into this game...

vote Saldana
ouch....i guess that means you wont be playing again.... :(

[Swaggs]

Vote Chief Rum

For ducking the first day vote.

[molson]

Vote Chief Rum

Subject to change

[bulletsponge]

jeez a guy has work and yall want to lynch him the first day. and my vote still stands on the chubbster

[Lorena]

Vote tanglewood

Sorry man, random vote

[SnDvls]

Sorry I"m so late to the party

villager checking in.

[SnDvls]

Sorry I"m so late to the party

villager checking in.

[SnDvls]

anyone else having board issues?

random vote

vote blade

schools going to start for him in a week so he might need this week to party just a little harder :).

Go Devils!!

[Abe Sargent]

Okay folks, here is my vote:

Vote Alan T

I rolled dice to randomly determine who to vote for, and it landed on Alan T. Even if it had landed on me, I'd have voted for myself, so I was being fair Alan T.

-Anxiety

[st.cronin]

current vote tally

3 - Chief Rum - Grammaticus, Swaggs, molson
2 - Blade - DaddyTorgo, SnDvls
1 - Lathum - Blade
1 - Noddadrop - Lathum
1 - Chubby - bulletsponge
1 - bulletsponge - Chubby
1 - Schmidty - path12
1 - path12 - Schmidty
1 - molson - GoldenEagle
1 - saldana - farrah
1 - tanglewood - dodgerchick
1 - AlanT - Anxiety

yet to vote:

tanglewood, AlanT, ChiefRum, Fouts, greyroofoo, noddadrop

[DaddyTorgo]

HAHAHA....no one voted for me. Oh wait, that's cuz I'm a villager! don't lynch me guys! I'm innocent!

current vote tally

3 - Chief Rum - Grammaticus, Swaggs, molson
2 - Blade - DaddyTorgo, SnDvls
1 - Lathum - Blade
1 - Noddadrop - Lathum
1 - Chubby - bulletsponge
1 - bulletsponge - Chubby
1 - Schmidty - path12
1 - path12 - Schmidty
1 - molson - GoldenEagle
1 - saldana - farrah
1 - tanglewood - dodgerchick
1 - AlanT - Anxiety

yet to vote:

tanglewood, AlanT, ChiefRum, Fouts, greyroofoo, noddadrop

[Greyroofoo]

Vote Schmidty

I once knew a guy named Schmidt who looked like a werewolf

[tanglewood]

Voting for Chief Rum because he didn't vote in his first post is weak. I didn't either, but no-one seemed to care.

Vote Swaggs

[Fouts]

But think of the poor animals!

Interesting that, if I've read the rules correctly, the werewolves cannot communicate or know each other. If that's so, analysing voting records becomes much less important.

Yes, it reads that way to me, too. Has me wondering how they are going to collaborate on killing one person each night.

[Alan T]

Yes, it reads that way to me, too. Has me wondering how they are going to collaborate on killing one person each night.


I thought Cronin already clarified that the wolves can communicate, just their two allies can't?

[Fouts]

My theory is most of the bad guys will be WW newbies. I think cronin wants to throw them into the fire.

Vote GoldenEagle

[Fouts]

I thought Cronin already clarified that the wolves can communicate, just their two allies can't?

Wolf - no special abilities. Do not know who their allies are, and have no way of finding out. The wolves must kill one and only one player per night.


You are right, Alan. That makes more sense.

[Grammaticus]

Here is what I've got so far

Lathum(1) – Blade (1)
Nodadrop(1) – Lathum (2)
Sndvls(0) – Grammaticus (3)
Chubby(1) – Bulletsponge(4)
Bulletsponge(1) – Chubby (5)
Blade(2) – daddytorgo (6), Sndvls (15)
Chief Rum(3) – Grammaticus (7), Swaggs (12), Molson (13)
Schmidty(2) – Path (8), Greyroofoo (17)
Path(1) – Schmidty (9)
Molson(1) – GoldenEagle (10)
Saldana(1) – Farah (11)
Tanglewood(1) – Dodgerchick (14)
AlanT(1) – Anxiety (16)
Swaggs(1) – Tanglewood (18)
GoldenEagle(1) – Fouts (19)

Following have not voted: AlanT, Chief Rum, noddadrop and Saldana

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Stupid question:

What does the number after my name mean? That I'm player #11?

[Barkeep49]

Stupid question:

What does the number after my name mean? That I'm player #11?
The order in which you voted.

[Alan T]

Stupid question:

What does the number after my name mean? That I'm player #11?


I think order of people placing votes

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Thank you kindly.

[Grammaticus]

Stupid question:

What does the number after my name mean? That I'm player #11?
Just that it was the 11th vote cast. Sometimes when there is a lot of unvoting and re-voting, it helps to see who voted in what order. Hoopsguy will often include the post number which does the same thing and is sometimes easier to do.

[Lathum]

I'm a little surprised by people voting chiefrum considering he said he was gonna be gone all day.

[saldana]

I'm a little surprised by people voting chiefrum considering he said he was gonna be gone all day.
i think it was because he said he was gonna be gone all day, but didnt vote before he left.

i was a little confused by that myself and have been contemplating making him pay for it

[Lathum]

The only thing I can think of is he was confused about the timing he had to vote. I'm not sticking up for him, I realize day one is a crapshoot but there are other people who haven't shown up as well, such a noddadrop.

[saldana]

well....he gave me desert herpes last time we played, so since dubb isnt here

vote lathum

[Lathum]

well....he gave me desert herpes last time we played, so since dubb isnt here

vote lathum
some friend you are

[saldana]

The only thing I can think of is he was confused about the timing he had to vote. I'm not sticking up for him, I realize day one is a crapshoot but there are other people who haven't shown up as well, such a noddadrop.
good point...i was thinking about voting for him anyway...if he doesnt show by the deadline, i will most likely switch to him

[saldana]

some friend you are
you started it.

[Grammaticus]

Updated:

Lathum(2) – Blade (1), Saldana (20)
Nodadrop(1) – Lathum (2)
Sndvls(0) – Grammaticus (3)
Chubby(1) – Bulletsponge(4)
Bulletsponge(1) – Chubby (5)
Blade(2) – daddytorgo (6), Sndvls (15)
Chief Rum(3) – Grammaticus (7), Swaggs (12), Molson (13)
Schmidty(2) – Path (8), Greyroofoo (17)
Path(1) – Schmidty (9)
Molson(1) – GoldenEagle (10)
Saldana(1) – Farah (11)
Tanglewood(1) – Dodgerchick (14)
AlanT(1) – Anxiety (16)
Swaggs(1) – Tanglewood (18)
GoldenEagle(1) – Fouts (19)

Not voted – AlanT, Chiefrum, noddadropp

[molson]

unvote Chief Rum

vote Nodadrop

It doesn't look like Nodadrop's posted anywhere in 3 days, and there's so sign of him in this thread. If Chief Rum was a WW, I feel like he would have handled things differently, just a hunch.

This would make a 4-way tie with 2 votes each at the moment, one more for Nodadrop would put him in the lynch lead.

[GoldenEagle]

<b>Unvote molson</b>

<b>Vote Nodadrop</b>

[st.cronin]

1 hour to lynch and my count is:

3 - Noddadrop - Lathum, molson, GoldenEagle
2 - Chief Rum - Grammaticus, Swaggs
2 - Blade - DaddyTorgo, SnDvls
2 - Lathum - Blade, saldana
2 - Schmidty - path12, greyroofoo
1 - Chubby - bulletsponge
1 - bulletsponge - Chubby
1 - path12 - Schmidty
1 - saldana - farrah
1 - tanglewood - dodgerchick
1 - AlanT - Anxiety
1 - Swaggs - tanglewood
1 - GoldenEagle - Fouts

yet to vote:

AlanT, ChiefRum, noddadrop

Let me know if I have made an error.

[Grammaticus]

unvote chief rum

vote tanglewood
keep a good tie going

[Grammaticus]

oops

wrong one
unvote tanglewood

vote blade

[Lathum]

why would you want a tie?

[Fouts]

Yeah, doesn't a tie help the bad guys?

[molson]

Yeah, doesn't a tie help the bad guys?

If I understand right, the "Masons" (who are humans) decide a tie. Masons know who the other Masons are, (and they know that Masons aren't wolves), but the odds of that being relevant with so many living players is small.

[Lorena]

Hey, you're right.

Vote Blade

I don't like to be confused.

Okay, rookie question here: does this vote count? He posted it on Saturday.

[st.cronin]

Okay, rookie question here: does this vote count? He posted it on Saturday.

I am not counting that vote as it was posted before roles were sent out.

[SnDvls]

unvote blade
Vote Nodadrop

[SnDvls]

dola,

a almost for sure no show as others have said hasn't posted in days.
odds are he's a villager, but we have nothing else to go on and at least we'll have active people left.

[saldana]

unvote lathum

vote noddadropp

[saldana]

dola, i was honestly trying to avoid a vote for a first timer, but seeing as how St Cronin is the only one less active over the past week than NDP... :)

[st.cronin]

dola, i was honestly trying to avoid a vote for a first timer, but seeing as how St Cronin is the only one less active over the past week than NDP... :)

Tom Brady needed me.

[Blade6119]

My god, i might actually survive day 1! The WW gods must see fit to end my purgatory!

Although, granted, i was tied for the lynch with 15 minutes to go, so i was still close. Thank you kindly saldana and sndvls, as yet again im not quite sure why i was up for lynch.

[Abe Sargent]

I refuse to vote for Blade today,. for jus that reason

[st.cronin]

10 minutes to lynch/stake and the score is

5 - Noddadrop - Lathum, molson, GoldenEagle, SnDvls, saldana
2 - Blade - Grammaticus, DaddyTorgo
2 - Schmidty - path12, greyroofoo
1 - Lathum - Blade
1 - Chief Rum - Swaggs
1 - Chubby - bulletsponge
1 - bulletsponge - Chubby
1 - path12 - Schmidty
1 - saldana - farrah
1 - tanglewood - dodgerchick
1 - AlanT - Anxiety
1 - Swaggs - tanglewood
1 - GoldenEagle - Fouts

[GoldenEagle]

My god, i might actually survive day 1! The WW gods must see fit to end my purgatory!

Although, granted, i was tied for the lynch with 15 minutes to go, so i was still close. Thank you kindly saldana and sndvls, as yet again im not quite sure why i was up for lynch.

Will this be your first day 1 to survive?

[tanglewood]

unvote Swaggs

Vote Noddadrop

NOte to newbies: Don't signup to a game and then dissapear for 3 days, you'll get punished. Unless you're the GM of course. ;)

[Blade6119]

Will this be your first day 1 to survive?
No, but i think i hold the record for most day 1 lynchings. Last game, day 1...game before that, im not sure, but it was nice and early. Im on a bit of a early dead streak, despite not being bad for like 8 games or so.

[Alan T]

Vote Grammaticus

[Grammaticus]

unvote blade

vote AlanT

[saldana]

My god, i might actually survive day 1! The WW gods must see fit to end my purgatory!

Although, granted, i was tied for the lynch with 15 minutes to go, so i was still close. Thank you kindly saldana and sndvls, as yet again im not quite sure why i was up for lynch.


you're welcome...you should know by now that i wont let someone that could be valuable die on day one...i think you were up for it just for the simple reason that you are you. :p

thats what i think too.:D

[saldana]

dead line

[Fouts]

Interesting exchange between Alan and Grammaticus near the deadline.

[st.cronin]

time check

[st.cronin]

It is a long, anxious day of deliberations and accusations. Old grudges are trotted out, and new ones made. In the end, being from Utah is enough for most of you, and Noddadrop is dragged to the village square for staking. Hardly a whiimper does he give, as your four strongest pin him to the ground and pound a stake through his living heart. Blood spurts, covering you - but alas, you have chosen wrongly, for Noddadrop was a mere villager. A search of his home turns up no clues. Fear and paranoia close around you as the sun sets. Will you be safe tonight? Or will the wolves strike again?

Night 1 has begun ... deadline 9am Eastern time

[saldana]

that was essentially unavoidable, but he added nothing to this point, and every other player was here at some point...easy choice for me.

[Alan T]

Interesting exchange between Alan and Grammaticus near the deadline.


Usually the day 1 person who didnt show up is most of the time not a wolf. I went with Gram because he seemed eager to try to force a day 1 tie, and he has taken the "overeager helpful wolf" type role so far today from what i can see.

Its just a day 1 vote, probably nothing much to it and my opinions will change tommorrow. Just voted based on the person who seemed most sneaky based on the little info we did have.

[st.cronin]

It's possible I may be a couple of hours late in the morning processing the night. Of course, if everybody gets their night actions in quickly, I can process right away. Also, unless there are objections, I think I am going to make the Daytime deadline 8:30 pm from here on out.

[Grammaticus]

that was essentially unavoidable, but he added nothing to this point, and every other player was here at some point...easy choice for me.
He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?

[Fouts]

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?

How was it obvious? I didn't vote for him, but I understand lynching people who add nothing to help the villagers.

[Blade6119]

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?
I think most people would rather kill off a non-helpful villager then take a random shot and kill someone who could be far more useful, be it by role or just their play style.

[Grammaticus]

Usually the day 1 person who didnt show up is most of the time not a wolf. I went with Gram because he seemed eager to try to force a day 1 tie, and he has taken the "overeager helpful wolf" type role so far today from what i can see.

Its just a day 1 vote, probably nothing much to it and my opinions will change tommorrow. Just voted based on the person who seemed most sneaky based on the little info we did have.
How is generating activity a overeager wolf type role? For the wolves it is best to have as little info possilbe out there to go on. So when it is quite and there is low activity, it helps the wolves. By laying up a tie we got to see who moved and where.

[tanglewood]

Bear in mind I'm pretty sure that Noddadrop's most recent post was before roles had been sent out. He could have been a wolf and not known it.

[Lathum]

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?
you can't make an omlette...

[Grammaticus]

How was it obvious? I didn't vote for him, but I understand lynching people who add nothing to help the villagers.
By not showing up and not appearing in the thread, he was very unlikely a wolf. Nothing is for sure, but to be a wolf and not even check the thread would be iron discipline.

[Grammaticus]

I think most people would rather kill off a non-helpful villager then take a random shot and kill someone who could be far more useful, be it by role or just their play style.
Really, if you were pretty sure someone was a villager but generally not very helpful in your eyes, you would rather take them than a shot at a wolf?

[molson]

By not showing up and not appearing in the thread, he was very unlikely a wolf. Nothing is for sure, but to be a wolf and not even check the thread would be iron discipline.

Why did you vote for Blade?

[molson]

By not showing up and not appearing in the thread, he was very unlikely a wolf. Nothing is for sure, but to be a wolf and not even check the thread would be iron discipline.

Wait, my bad, you changed your vote last second for Alan T. But the question's the same - since you seem to be putting more stock than others into day one voting, why vote for Blade, then switch to Alan T?

[Grammaticus]

Why did you vote for Blade?
See post 240
"By laying up a tie we got to see who moved and where."

You saw Sndvls move off Blade and tag chief rum. Then you saw Saldana move to Chief rum quickly after that. Then you saw Tanglewood pile on cheif rum. That will all mean something over time.

Specifically why did Saldana and tanglewood make the move when they did not need too?

[Grammaticus]

dola,

to specifically answer your question. Blade was the next guy on the list in post 208 with 2 votes where I could make a tie to get things going.

[DaddyTorgo]

imma go hide in my house and hope the wolves don't get me!

[Grammaticus]

Wait, my bad, you changed your vote last second for Alan T. But the question's the same - since you seem to be putting more stock than others into day one voting, why vote for Blade, then switch to Alan T?
Day one votes are not useless. Especially if you have a wolf on the ropes. I switched to Alant simply because he voted for me and the Blade vote was not affective as the others piled on chief rum.

Back to wolves on the ropes. In this game, it appears there are a small number of wolves. Usually the villagers have some special roles to assist them. The 2 most notorious are seer and bodyguard. It appears we just have masons who can only break a tie. Based on the weakness of the villager roles, I am guessing we don't have many wolves. That means if one of them were in trouble or had a few votes, movement might occur to protect that wolf.

It is really hard to tell at this point. But a few days from now, what happened today, might have a big impact, versus a day one full of nothing.