One of my best friends got married today

[Izulde]

It was a beautiful, small wedding and the dinner and reception afterwards were good times.

Still felt awfully strange, though... I mean, here's the girl who's been one of my closest friends for years and now she's off and married. (Yes, I loved her in *that* way which probably contributes to the odd sensation, but I've managed to transform it into a best friend/brother kind of love. We even say we're like twin brother and twin sister, since we're so much alike and Gemini and all)

Part of me sees a gulf growing between us and part me of says that's silly to think.

I know I'm happy for her, though... The guy is terrific and I approved of him (I've been through her prior relationships and let's just say those guys left a lot to be desired in my opinion) and they're great together. She's really happy in a way I've never seen her before and it makes her even more stunning than she was before. It's wonderful to see.

And no, I didn't cry at the wedding, though I did get a little choked up.

I don't even know why I'm posting this... just the really odd mixed feelings I guess that I've never had to deal with before.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Friends don't let friends ...

[stevew]

too bad you were on her wrong ladder.

[molson]

Part of me sees a gulf growing between us and part me of says that's silly to think.


It's not silly, it's reality. Things will never be the same. Unless they get divorced. And then she'll probably want to get in your pants.

[Izulde]

too bad you were on her wrong ladder.

I was actually thinking about the ladder theory earlier today.

[Philliesfan980]

Yeah, I hate to say it, but things will never be the same between the two of you.

[Izulde]

I can't help but wonder if it's the same for everyone in this type of scenario. I honestly don't know... I mean yeah I've been to weddings before and all that, but I wasn't close to the people getting married to begin with, so it didn't matter one way or the other to my life if things changed.

[molson]

I can't help but wonder if it's the same for everyone in this type of scenario. I honestly don't know... I mean yeah I've been to weddings before and all that, but I wasn't close to the people getting married to begin with, so it didn't matter one way or the other to my life if things changed.

I think this sort of thing is pretty common these days, where people are getting married later, and hanging on to their close opposite sex friends for longer than they did a generation ago.

The worst thing you can possibily do is bring these feelings up with her, avoid that temptation at all costs - it wouldn't end well.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

too bad you were on her wrong ladder.

Ladder? What's that mean?

[Izulde]

I think this sort of thing is pretty common these days, where people are getting married later, and hanging on to their close opposite sex friends for longer than they did a generation ago.

The worst thing you can possibily do is bring these feelings up with her, avoid that temptation at all costs - it wouldn't end well.

Oh, I know. The temptation's not even there, actually. I told her a couple years ago (when she was available) how I felt originally and she said she viewed me as her twin brother and just didn't have those types of feelings for me. So that was that and I never brought the subject up again.

[Izulde]

Ladder? What's that mean?

Refers to ladder theory, which I don't have the link for atm.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ladder? What's that mean?

A quick Google leads me to believe this site should help.
http://www.laddertheory.com/

[stevew]

Ladder? What's that mean?
Google ladder theory. or search here, im sure there was a thread about it.

in short, once you get on the friend ladder, you can basically never move over to the lover ladder. bad explanation, I'm trying to post from my mac laptop using a non supported browser and it has a bad shift key.

[stevew]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_theory

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Huh. That was certainly an education. Izulde I sure hope you weren't her Cuddle Bitch.

[saldana]

not to threadjack, but i disagree with the LT, at least as it was presented in the wikipedia listing....i defintely have 2 ladders

[Izulde]

Huh. That was certainly an education. Izulde I sure hope you weren't her Cuddle Bitch.

Nope, not her bitch in any form actually.

[Izulde]

not to threadjack, but i disagree with the LT, at least as it was presented in the wikipedia listing....i defintely have 2 ladders

To me, ladder theory is like any other relationship (or literary for that matter) theory. Useful and certainly applicable in some instances, totally irrelevant to other situations.

[Anthony]

i mean this in the nicest possible way, but, where do you get the will to live? being sincere, have you ever had suicidal contemplations? are you fun at parties? you seem like such a downer. yeesh.

the best thing you could do for yourself, and take this for what it's worth, is to find a random chick - no matter how fat or ugly (but preferably slim and pretty, though beggars can't be choosers) - and fornicate with her. this isn't me being my usual Hell Atlantic self. this is me being straight up and down real - you need to have a random sexual encounter. i don't want to assume what your sexual orientation is, so this could apply to guys as well. but you need to not treat every girl you find as the end all, be all. you can't be friends with every chick you meet. that's what guys are for (or vice versa depending on your sexual preference). you're not going to meet the woman of your dreams tonite, tomorrow nite or even next week. assume that much. use these next 7 days to live a little and make some memories that don't involve watching the girl/guy go off with someone else. be that someone else. fornicate. get it out of your system. apparently you're in college, which should make fornication not an impossible quest.

just do it and get your friggin heart pumping. don't call her either. don't be her friend afterwards. fornicate, ejaculate then dissipate.

[Anthony]

and one more thing: some time in the future, who knows - maybe next year, perhaps 5 years from now - you will look back on this period of your life and see how you wasted it. i do it myself too. i had a TON, a friggin TON, of girls in high school all up in my stuff and i didn't do anything with many of them. even through my first year of college i could have got a lot of gash. then i met my wife in fall semester of my sophomore year and then i never really got to be the cocksman i had the potential to be. i look back and see i wasted an infinite amount of opportunities. you have a wealth of opportunities to make memories for yourself. you're in college full time and live in a dorm and are single and are surrounded by many young single girls. that situation is enough to make people envious. not necessarily envious of you - let's not get carried away here - but envious of the land of possibility that you currently reside in. make the most of your life, one day you get married (or depending on your sexual preference have a commitment ceremony), get a mortgage, get a job and all those single nubile young females you used to pass by on the campus just vanish.

[Anthony]

i have the below image on a poster, and it means a lot to me:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/2/Posters/PF2081~John-Belushi-College-Posters.jpg

use it as inspiration.

[Izulde]

i mean this in the nicest possible way, but, where do you get the will to live? being sincere, have you ever had suicidal contemplations? are you fun at parties? you seem like such a downer. yeesh.

Some days I wonder that myself. And sure I have.. it comes with being bipolar. Fun at parties? For the most part, no, unless I get drunk or stoned. Then I turn into one of those guys that's sarcastically funny and people are all shocked that I a) can talk and b) have a cutting sense of humour.

the best thing you could do for yourself, and take this for what it's worth, is to find a random chick - no matter how fat or ugly (but preferably slim and pretty, though beggars can't be choosers) - and fornicate with her. this isn't me being my usual Hell Atlantic self. this is me being straight up and down real - you need to have a random sexual encounter. i don't want to assume what your sexual orientation is, so this could apply to guys as well. but you need to not treat every girl you find as the end all, be all.

People have been telling me this for years (the need to get laid bit that is), but hell I've lasted this long, why throw it away now on a random thing? As for treating every girl I find like the be all, end all... nah, don't do that. Most women I have zero interest in, so they might as well be guys as far as I'm concerned. Granted, my posts on here reflect otherwise probably, but just as your specific side comes out on message forums, so too do I have a specific side that comes out on here that isn't entirely representative of the whole me.

you can't be friends with every chick you meet. that's what guys are for (or vice versa depending on your sexual preference). you're not going to meet the woman of your dreams tonite, tomorrow nite or even next week. assume that much. use these next 7 days to live a little and make some memories that don't involve watching the girl/guy go off with someone else. be that someone else. fornicate. get it out of your system. apparently you're in college, which should make fornication not an impossible quest.

You're right, I can't be friends with every girl I meet. Some I'm enemies with, others are friends, most are people I know and don't pay any attention to. And again you're correct that fornication isn't an impossible goal. As a matter of fact, one of my friends has been trying to set me up with this free spiritish girl for a couple months now. I'm frankly just not interested.

just do it and get your friggin heart pumping. don't call her either. don't be her friend afterwards. fornicate, ejaculate then dissipate.

I could do this very easily with free spirit girl and she wouldn't mind a bit, but again, I have no interest in even doing that much with her.

I will admit it gets difficult at times, especially when I'm in a situation like tonight where it was all couples and then lone, single me who knew all of four people there, two of whom were the bride and groom.

But then (here comes a real shock I know) I've lost that ability to be a people person. It's like I told my fraternity brothers, I've gotten so used to being alone for so many years that it's hard to reach out, unless it's a formal, semi-structured situation like the classroom , public speaking, acting or work, in which case I'm perfectly at ease.

[Izulde]

i have the below image on a poster, and it means a lot to me:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/2/Posters/PF2081~John-Belushi-College-Posters.jpg

use it as inspiration.

Superb movie.

[Izulde]

and one more thing: some time in the future, who knows - maybe next year, perhaps 5 years from now - you will look back on this period of your life and see how you wasted it. i do it myself too. i had a TON, a friggin TON, of girls in high school all up in my stuff and i didn't do anything with many of them. even through my first year of college i could have got a lot of gash. then i met my wife in fall semester of my sophomore year and then i never really got to be the cocksman i had the potential to be. i look back and see i wasted an infinite amount of opportunities. you have a wealth of opportunities to make memories for yourself. you're in college full time and live in a dorm and are single and are surrounded by many young single girls. that situation is enough to make people envious. not necessarily envious of you - let's not get carried away here - but envious of the land of possibility that you currently reside in. make the most of your life, one day you get married (or depending on your sexual preference have a commitment ceremony), get a mortgage, get a job and all those single nubile young females you used to pass by on the campus just vanish.

Strangely enough, relative to my high school years and the first... six or so years of college, I've been more pro-active in memorymaking.

And yes, I do carry around a ton of regret and the sense that I wasted a lot of years. Hell, I still regret not applying to Princeton.

It's tough to look in the mirror some days, especially on those mornings where I see the guy I could've become had I done one or two things differently.

[Anthony]

you're a downer. every time you mention a female in your life, she has some name or title. there was Dreams. in this thread you dubbed someone "free spirit girl". some people were not meant to have any meaning in our lives. some, like extras in a movie - a car chase if you will - whir by and are not even an afterthought. not every female you meet is significant enough to have a title or a name. some can be in your life for fleeting moments. its ok for that to happen.

and i don't say "you need to get laid" in the proverbial frat/jock sense. i mean you need to expand your borders, step out of the box you put yourself in, go on to the next level. i'm not a people person myself, but i'm alive and to be alive means to interact. live, man.

like i said, one day you'll regret this opportunity you're squandering. you owe it to your future self to change up your routine a bit and do something. at least make out with a random girl at a bar. it's not that hard. your heart will pump faster and you'll enjoy it and like a drug want more of it. i enjoy my marriage, but i get jealous of people living the college life or the bachelor life. there's certain things i can't experience anymore (at least not without breaking some vows and some laws), but you can. trust me, you have the rest of your life to be your sorry self. for now, do something that you'll be embarassed about a couple months from now but laugh at one year from now.

[Anthony]

It's tough to look in the mirror some days, especially on those mornings where I see the guy I could've become had I done one or two things differently.

before i leave to go do something entertaining, i will leave you with this one piece of poetry that came into my life long ago that i feel was rather foreshadowing:

"I am a giant mirror machine
And my reflections are only that of what I could have been"
-Anthony Casso

[Izulde]

you're a downer. every time you mention a female in your life, she has some name or title. there was Dreams. in this thread you dubbed someone "free spirit girl". some people were not meant to have any meaning in our lives. some, like extras in a movie - a car chase if you will - whir by and are not even an afterthought. not every female you meet is significant enough to have a title or a name. some can be in your life for fleeting moments. its ok for that to happen.

I would argue that the vast majority of people are insignificant to our lives. As I like to so often phrase it they're either "people I knew once" or "faces I saw once". The name/titular thing you point out is an interesting one, but it's not indicative of any particular inflection or importance on my part. I just like naming things.

and i don't say "you need to get laid" in the proverbial frat/jock sense. i mean you need to expand your borders, step out of the box you put yourself in, go on to the next level. i'm not a people person myself, but i'm alive and to be alive means to interact. live, man.

Admittedly most of my interactions with people take place in my head. I've been able to hold entire conversations with people there, ones that can literally last hours. Perhaps it's partly (though not wholly) a case of the interior world of the imagination being more interesting than the external reality.

I do recognize that I need to be more gregarious on an unassisted level and when I was a kid, I was. I was always talking to people back then and was never shy or quiet. Then as I got older, I talked less and less and eventually turned into this real quiet guy that people describe with the tired cliches of "nice" "funny" "smart" etc.

like i said, one day you'll regret this opportunity you're squandering. you owe it to your future self to change up your routine a bit and do something. at least make out with a random girl at a bar. it's not that hard. your heart will pump faster and you'll enjoy it and like a drug want more of it. i enjoy my marriage, but i get jealous of people living the college life or the bachelor life. there's certain things i can't experience anymore (at least not without breaking some vows and some laws), but you can. trust me, you have the rest of your life to be your sorry self. for now, do something that you'll be embarassed about a couple months from now but laugh at one year from now.

Well, like I said, there's already regret there from the past. There isn't so much regret concerning the current period because I'm 27 and so considered too old by most of the college girl set (there are exceptions of course, but those exceptions go for the confident, extroverted older men by and large)

And again, most girls hold no interest for me and don't make me want to bother with any sort of randomness.

[stevew]

I think it's best if you try to phase people out of your life like this girl. She's married, you can't be with her now, possibly for a long time. And you want a relationship with her that you can never possibly have. So there really is no point in continuing the charade and being her friend. I would advise that you never call her again, maybe send a card when you see that she's had a kid. I'm not saying that you go all Frank TJ Mackey on the thing, but tomorrow would be a good point for you to stop making yourself available to your various women friends cause it will only lead to more heartache and a vicious cycle.

[Arctus]

I'm not saying that you go all Frank TJ Mackey on the thing,

phenominal reference :)

[AgustusM]

I think it's best if you try to phase people out of your life like this girl. She's married, you can't be with her now, possibly for a long time. And you want a relationship with her that you can never possibly have. So there really is no point in continuing the charade and being her friend. I would advise that you never call her again, maybe send a card when you see that she's had a kid. I'm not saying that you go all Frank TJ Mackey on the thing, but tomorrow would be a good point for you to stop making yourself available to your various women friends cause it will only lead to more heartache and a vicious cycle.

I think this is very sound advise.

bad things lurk in your future if you continue to have a relationship with this woman.

* there has to be or will be tension between her and her husband about you
* there will be tension between you and any future girl you are interested in

[CraigSca]

Good friends are for losers, anyway. With work, family and text simulations, who has the time?

[sterlingice]

Some days I wonder that myself. And sure I have.. it comes with being bipolar. Fun at parties? For the most part, no, unless I get drunk or stoned. Then I turn into one of those guys that's sarcastically funny and people are all shocked that I a) can talk and b) have a cutting sense of humour.
To be fair, most parties are boring as sin, particularly parties where the majority of people are drunk. Clarification, drunk parties are only fun if drunk. Otherwise, you see just how stupid the whole thing is.

SI

[Desnudo]

I've never understood men and women as best friends. My girlfriend has guy friends I don't know very well, in this day and age it's inevitable, but if her bridesmaid was a straight guy, I don't think I'd be too happy about it. Point being that I would definitely expect the relationship to change.

You obviously subjugated your own feelings about her a long time ago to some sort of "we can be friends" ideal when you should have walked away. I've been guilty of it, we all probably have, but I think this marriage represents a perfect opportunity to walk away from a relationship you should have walked away from a long time ago.

I rarely agree with HA's posts, but have you considered spending a weekend in Mexico with a prostitute?

[sabotai]

I'm probably not the first person to tell you this, but let me second or thrid or umpteenth the comments.

Reading your posts, it sounds like your standards for women are ridiculously high, to the point of being completely unrealistic. Have you thought that maybe you go after unattainable women because you are afraid of a relationship with a chick who is attainable? In my totally unprofessional opinion, I think you're so scared of a woman romantically getting to know you that you avoid girls that you could have a meaningful relationship with. The relationships you create in your head with these unattainable women are comforting, and the possibility of a real reltionship is frightening. So you stick with what is comforting.

So what is wrong with free spirit girl? You say you're not interested, but why? Do your politics not mesh? Does she have a bad sense of humor, or maybe just an annoying laugh? Is her face covered in warts or is she 300 pounds? Is she a worthless, burned out stoner or gets drunk constantly and is an annoying drunk? Does she think video games are for kids and any adult who plays them is too immature? Does she think Star Wars references are the epitome of loserness?

Or, is it that you get the feeling that she is attainable, and thus you aren't interested? Do you really know much about her? What harm could a date or two do?

[DeToxRox]

HA - You've become my cult favorite on FOFC.

[Joe]

I'm probably not the first person to tell you this, but let me second or thrid or umpteenth the comments.

Reading your posts, it sounds like your standards for women are ridiculously high, to the point of being completely unrealistic. Have you thought that maybe you go after unattainable women because you are afraid of a relationship with a chick who is attainable? In my totally unprofessional opinion, I think you're so scared of a woman romantically getting to know you that you avoid girls that you could have a meaningful relationship with. The relationships you create in your head with these unattainable women are comforting, and the possibility of a real reltionship is frightening. So you stick with what is comforting.

So what is wrong with free spirit girl? You say you're not interested, but why? Do your politics not mesh? Does she have a bad sense of humor, or maybe just an annoying laugh? Is her face covered in warts or is she 300 pounds? Is she a worthless, burned out stoner or gets drunk constantly and is an annoying drunk? Does she think video games are for kids and any adult who plays them is too immature? Does she think Star Wars references are the epitome of loserness?

Or, is it that you get the feeling that she is attainable, and thus you aren't interested? Do you really know much about her? What harm could a date or two do?

he needs to stop putting the pussy on a pedestal

[Izulde]

Reading your posts, it sounds like your standards for women are ridiculously high, to the point of being completely unrealistic. Have you thought that maybe you go after unattainable women because you are afraid of a relationship with a chick who is attainable? In my totally unprofessional opinion, I think you're so scared of a woman romantically getting to know you that you avoid girls that you could have a meaningful relationship with. The relationships you create in your head with these unattainable women are comforting, and the possibility of a real reltionship is frightening. So you stick with what is comforting.

High standards I'll readily admit to. Unrealistic? Somewhat doubtful. While the fear of relationships is a theory I've heard before, I'd like to point out that I've had three relationships in my life, at 19, 20 and 24. So it's certainly not through any sense of fear, much as some people like to speculate that.

So what is wrong with free spirit girl? You say you're not interested, but why? Do your politics not mesh? Does she have a bad sense of humor, or maybe just an annoying laugh? Is her face covered in warts or is she 300 pounds? Is she a worthless, burned out stoner or gets drunk constantly and is an annoying drunk? Does she think video games are for kids and any adult who plays them is too immature? Does she think Star Wars references are the epitome of loserness?

Or, is it that you get the feeling that she is attainable, and thus you aren't interested? Do you really know much about her? What harm could a date or two do?

Frankly, she bores me. She's not the sharpest of pencils in the box let's just say and is a boozehound and druglover to the point of excess. Now, I have nothing against drinking or doing drugs and have done both before in the past myself. But what I *am* against is doing those things excessively. Moderation is a big part of my personal life creed.

[Izulde]

he needs to stop putting the pussy on a pedestal

Ironically enough, I gave that very speech to a friend of mine last week who comes up with an excuse every time he gets interested in a girl as to why he can't ask her out. He has absolutely no understanding of women and likes to blame me for all his failures in life, especially with one little bar chippie in particular.

Be thankful you're not subjected to *that* guy, who drives everyone who knows him batshit insane.

Even I don't hang out with him as much as I used to, because his line gets old after a while, especially his harping on me about shit that's like years in the past. I'm just like "Dude, get over it. This isn't high school anymore."

But of course, he doesn't.

[Anthony]

HA - You've become my cult favorite on FOFC.

i think this will become the new "i hate to say it, but i agree with HA". and congrats, you were the first one to say it. i applaud you. if you could see me right now you'd see me clapping my hands.

ok, i'm not clapping my hands but you can still see me in your mind's eye.

[DeToxRox]

i think this will become the new "i hate to say it, but i agree with HA". and congrats, you were the first one to say it. i applaud you. if you could see me right now you'd see me clapping my hands.

ok, i'm not clapping my hands but you can still see me in your mind's eye.

I agree with much of what you say as of late. And I find you incredibly amusing. This e-dick suck probably needs to stop but I am a supporter no matter how vocal the majority of dissenters gets.

[Anthony]

Frankly, she bores me. She's not the sharpest of pencils in the box let's just say and is a boozehound and druglover to the point of excess. Now, I have nothing against drinking or doing drugs and have done both before in the past myself. But what I *am* against is doing those things excessively. Moderation is a big part of my personal life creed.

what about your own faults? one of my motto's is not to expect perfection out of someone unless i'm willing to be perfect. the end of that story is, no, i'm not willing to be perfect and i'm too lazy to try. i have faults.

i have a short temper

i have no patience
and i hate waitin'
ho, get yo' ass in
and let's rock, ock ock-ock-ock
- Jay-Z

you should ask yourself what you think your bad points are and if someone should persecute you for what your deficiencies may be. it's ok to have preferences, likes/dislikes in your mates, but you might have some flaws that someone will have to overlook themselves. this so-called free spirit girl is not going to be your wife. she will not be your girlfriend. you don't need a girl to be either of those to hang with her, and frankly, for random fornication it's preferable that way. you need confidence boosters and empowerment to off-set your normal downer, inferior self. if you know that this girl wouldn't mind having you penetrate her with your always a bridesmaid and never a bride personae, you need to pounce on her like she was an injured fawn and you a hungry, though energetic mountain lion capable of infrequent ferocity. this is honesty, and it's a gift i give to you.

[Izulde]

what about your own faults? one of my motto's is not to expect perfection out of someone unless i'm willing to be perfect. the end of that story is, no, i'm not willing to be perfect and i'm too lazy to try. i have faults.

i have a short temper

i have no patience
and i hate waitin'
ho, get yo' ass in
and let's rock, ock ock ock-ock-ock
- Jay-Z

you should ask yourself what you think your bad points are and if someone should persecute you for what your deficiencies are. this so-called free spirit girl is not going to be your wife. she will not be your girlfriend. you don't need a girl to be either of those to hang with her, and frankly, for random fornication it's preferable that way. you need confidence boosters and empowerment to off-set your normal downer, inferior self. if you know that this girl wouldn't mind having you penetrate her with your always a bridesmaid and never a bride personae, you need to pounce on her like she was an injured fawn and you a hungry, though energetic mountain lion capable of infrequent ferocity. this is honesty, and it's a gift i give to you.

Sure I have flaws. Everyone does. But her particular faults happen to be ones that I personally can't stand, especially the low-wattage bulb factor. Really, if I was just going to hang with a girl just for the fuck of it (couldn't help the pun), then I'd go dig up a courtesan somewhere. (Note: I use the term courtesan here to designate the class of prostitute that is at least pseudointellectual, to fit with my at least pseudointellectual self).

[Senator]

If you read all of HA's post with the voice of Vince Vaughn, they are actually quite entertaining.

[Buccaneer]

Oh dear god, now I've heard everything. A Star Wars geek a pseudo-intellectual?? Izulde, you are probably so full of it that no one wants to be around you and therefore, think that you're better than they are.

[st.cronin]

Oh dear god, now I've heard everything. A Star Wars geek a pseudo-intellectual?? Izulde, you are probably so full of it that no one wants to be around you and therefore, think that you're better than they are.

I concur with the grumpy troll from Colorado.

[sterlingice]

I concur with the grumpy troll from Colorado.
I'm not sure I'll ever be able to read a Bucc post now without an image something like this in my head:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Grumpy_Old_Troll.jpg

Before it was something like Dana Carvey's grumpy old man or an old billy goat. :D

SI

[Izulde]

Oh dear god, now I've heard everything. A Star Wars geek a pseudo-intellectual?? Izulde, you are probably so full of it that no one wants to be around you and therefore, think that you're better than they are.

Except I'm not a Star Wars geek. In fact, I'm not an any specific cultural phenomenon geek. I'm too much of a dilettante for that.

[Anthony]

Oh dear god, now I've heard everything. A Star Wars geek a pseudo-intellectual?? Izulde, you are probably so full of it that no one wants to be around you and therefore, think that you're better than they are.

don't judge. we don't judge in this thread.

[Buccaneer]

I'm too much of a dilettante for that.

Had to look up that word.

[Greyroofoo]

so whats the exact definition of a star wars geek?

[Logan]

so whats the exact definition of a star wars geek?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Izulde/Picture141.jpg

There must be some old timers here at FOFC who are in bed early. Can't believe it took 7 minutes for someone to post this.

[Greyroofoo]

BOO WHITE SOX!!!!!!

[Buccaneer]

Damn it, you beat me to it. I had to take the time to put a red arrow on it. Great, I get the consolation prize.

http://home.adelphia.net/~ouray2/images/iz.jpg

[Logan]

Damn it, you beat me to it. I had to take the time to put a red arrow on it. Great, I get the consolation prize.

I give you credit for still posting it, after the fact, just to show off your solid work.

[Buccaneer]

I give you credit for still posting it, after the fact, just to show off your solid work.

I didn't think you would have believed me if I just told you about the red arrow.

[Logan]

I didn't think you would have believed me if I just told you about the red arrow.

The way I see it, the more the merrier with that pic.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

The way I see it, the more the merrier with that pic.

It would be much funnier if he were naked.

[Anthony]

if i was still single and in a college dorm i could parlay those posters into veal. so you bring the female into the room, the following scene plays out:

[A song by Genesis - "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" plays in the background as a man in his 20's invites a college-age female into his room after a long night of conversation at a nearby cafe]

female: "uhhhh, you have star wars posters on your wall?"
you: "yeah, i took a bet with someone that i could captivate the heart of a beautiful girl despite having Star Wars and manly ying yang/dragon posters up on the wall".
female: "why are you taking off your pants?"
you: "hush, hush, keep it down...voices carry"

[Izulde]

Eh, the poster selection at Walmart was limited and Walmart was the only store in Laramie of any significance.

My room at the fraternity house is much better appointed. :D

[Izulde]

BOO WHITE SOX!!!!!!

We'll get that wild card and make our way to a defended WS title. :)

[Anthony]

or....

female: "uhhhh, you have star wars posters on your wall?"
you: "they belong to my brother, who passed away one year ago next week. we used to go fishing together at the lake behind Old Man Thomspon's house, and would pack PB&J sandwiches and i'd always wind up giving him half of mine cause those were his favorite. we'd never catch anything ever, but i think what we wound up catching was worth more than any fish - we caught a sense of brotherly love and friendship. this Star Wars poster and a manly ying yang/dragon poster used to be up in his old bedroom, and they're all i have to remember him by."
female: "that is the saddest story i've ever heard"
you: "there is nothing sad about the strong bond between two brothers."
female: "oh my God - your penis is hanging out of your pants"
you: "shhhhhh...you had me at hello"

[Anthony]

or....

female: "uhhhh, you have star wars posters on your wall?"
you: "they belong to my brother, who passed away one year ago next week. we used to go fishing together at the lake behind Old Man Thomspon's house, and would pack PB&J sandwiches and i'd always wind up giving him half of mine cause those were his favorite. we'd never catch anything ever, but i think what we wound up catching was worth more than any fish - we caught a sense of brotherly love and friendship. this Star Wars poster and a manly ying yang/dragon poster used to be up in his old bedroom, and they're all i have to remember him by."
female: "that is the saddest story i've ever heard"
you: "there is nothing sad about the strong bond between two brothers."
female: "oh my God - your penis is hanging out of your pants"
you: "shhhhhh...you had me at hello"


OMG! you HAVE to try this Izulde, i want to see if it'd work. for best results, don't be you - pretend you're me. i understand it's hard to fake charsima and a general sense of awesomeness, but in the interests of science i compel you to try.

[Galaxy]

This is the best thread since Jimmy's Ashley Madison affair.

[Izulde]

OMG! you HAVE to try this Izulde, i want to see if it'd work. for best results, don't be you - pretend you're me. i understand it's hard to fake charsima and a general sense of awesomeness, but in the interests of science i compel you to try.

:D

The posters aren't up anymore for one and for two, I'm not in that room anymore, or even that campus.

[Anthony]

:D

The posters aren't up anymore for one and for two, I'm not in that room anymore, or even that campus.

well, buy them again and put them up and get a girl in your room and recite the script i provided for you too. for an extra challenge please incorporate that satin soccer pillow thing too. here is your script regarding the pillow:

you: "he liked soccer and was well on his way to getting a soccer scholarship after taking his high school to the state championships. the pillow is to remind me that i don't strive for excellence just for myself, i strive for excellence to honor my brother and to accomplish the things in life he won't be able to."
female: "it sounds like you think about him often"
you: "now and then I see his face - it always takes me away to that special place. but...if I stare too long - I'd probably break down and cry"
female: "ummmm...isn't that a song?"
you: "are you wearing panties?"

[Mr. Sparkle]

OMG! you HAVE to try this Izulde, i want to see if it'd work. for best results, don't be you - pretend you're me. i understand it's hard to fake charsima and a general sense of awesomeness, but in the interests of science i compel you to try.

Hell, in the interests of science, I want to try this.

[tanglewood]

Wait, that pic is actually Izulde?

[Izulde]

Wait, that pic is actually Izulde?

Yep. From last fall.

[tanglewood]

Yep. From last fall.

Sorry, I'd always assumed someone had found it on the net and it was one of these FOFC in-jokes that I always miss....

[Ksyrup]

I no longer buy the Izulde "character."

[Izulde]

I no longer buy the Izulde "character."

If I had a dollar for every time somebody thought I was an alias, I'd qualify for the leisure class by now.

[Ksyrup]

If I had a dollar for every time somebody thought I was an alias, I'd qualify for the leisure class by now.

Oh, I think you're real enough and that this stuff is probably part of who you are. I just think you're overplaying it because you know what kind of reaction it gets. The perfume thread was over the top, even for you. I could be wrong, and it's certainly entertaining to follow, but I just have a hard time believing this is 100% legit.

[rkmsuf]

Oh, I think you're real enough and that this stuff is probably part of who you are. I just think you're overplaying it because you know what kind of reaction it gets. The perfume thread was over the top, even for you. I could be wrong, and it's certainly entertaining to follow, but I just have a hard time believing this is 100% legit.

Concur. And also agree with Buc.

The elder council is all over this one.

[Anthony]

Oh, I think you're real enough and that this stuff is probably part of who you are. I just think you're overplaying it because you know what kind of reaction it gets. The perfume thread was over the top, even for you. I could be wrong, and it's certainly entertaining to follow, but I just have a hard time believing this is 100% legit.

i agree with the syrupy one. his gimmick is so blatant that i don't even have fun anymore busting his chops. i liked him better when i thought he was in-the-closet cuzi thought he was trying to drop hints he was gay.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, I'd say Izulde jumped the shark when you started offering him well-meaning advice instead of piles full of crap. It was a disappointing development, but one I can't blame on you.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Let's just say that this is setting the wheels in motion for a huge Pumpy Tudors development.

[rkmsuf]

Let's just say that this is setting the wheels in motion for a huge Pumpy Tudors development.

You are Izulde's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate?

[Ksyrup]

Let's just say that this is setting the wheels in motion for a huge Pumpy Tudors development.

My first thought was your head photoshopped onto Izulde's body in "the picture."

[Ksyrup]

Don't tell me it's this...!


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1204206/ticket.jpg

[Izulde]

Don't tell me it's this...!


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1204206/ticket.jpg

That, sir, is brilliantly done.

[Pumpy Tudors]

It's coming.

[Galaxy]

Oh, I think you're real enough and that this stuff is probably part of who you are. I just think you're overplaying it because you know what kind of reaction it gets. The perfume thread was over the top, even for you. I could be wrong, and it's certainly entertaining to follow, but I just have a hard time believing this is 100% legit.

Agree with this and Bucc. Izude, your not one of those people who talks like they are superior than other college people? By this, you don't try to sound philosophical and like a know-it-all? In my freshman year, we had a kid in my dom building who was in his mid-20's, and tried to talk of all this philosophical crap. It was also as if he couldn't relate to anyone.