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sabotai
08-18-2006, 05:02 PM
To the Pats he goes.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NE/9608453

Greyroofoo
08-18-2006, 05:03 PM
So what did the chargers do to piss him off?

To me retiring and then unretiring to join a different team is just classless.

WVUFAN
08-18-2006, 05:07 PM
So what did the chargers do to piss him off?

To me retiring and then unretiring to join a different team is just classless.

I think he only signed with the Chargers to retire as one. The Dolphins had released him early this year to save salary cap space.

stevew
08-18-2006, 05:11 PM
I hadn't heard the football messiah had a broken hand. When Bruschi heals this time, what new and inventive stat will they invent for him? Last time it was "hits" which us mortals usually refer to as missed tackles.

Antmeister
08-18-2006, 05:17 PM
Man, it is weird to know that someone you went to high school with is about to retire. Makes me feel old. I know sports put tremendous wear and tear on your body, but to realize he has been in the leauge for over 14 years makes me wonder who stole my frickin time.

Lorena
08-18-2006, 05:18 PM
Reunited with Rodney Harrison... great. 2 ex-Chargers :(

Dammit I miss 'em.

st.cronin
08-18-2006, 06:08 PM
I'm very confused. Is Bill Belichick still in charge?

Buccaneer
08-18-2006, 06:16 PM
Man, it is weird to know that someone you went to high school with is about to retire. Makes me feel old. I know sports put tremendous wear and tear on your body, but to realize he has been in the leauge for over 14 years makes me wonder who stole my frickin time.

Try remembering Doakie Williams when he was playing for Oceanside (whom we beat in the playoffs).

Antmeister
08-18-2006, 06:48 PM
Try remembering Doakie Williams when he was playing for Oceanside (whom we beat in the playoffs).

What the....how old are you?

Oops....nevermind. I wasn't living in Oceanside in that era. :D

Buccaneer
08-18-2006, 06:59 PM
Aww shit, I was getting my high schools mixed up. Dokie (not Doakie) played for El Camino which is the other HS in Oceanside. Anyway, here's an interesting article I dug up with some familiar names (I graduated from OG in 78 when Salisbury was a freshman).



Recruiting memories are vivid.

More than 30 North County high school football players today will sit down at a table or desk, sign a piece of paper and look to the future.
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The long recruiting process, which can be humbling and numbing, is finally over. It is a right of passage for these athletes, almost as important as getting that diploma in June.

As I reflect on this day, some of the more memorable recruiting stories I have heard or covered over the years come to mind.

In 1981, Orange Glen High's Sean Salisbury was the hottest quarterback in Southern California. Every school wanted him, including Notre Dame.

Gerry Faust, a terrific recruiter, coached Notre Dame.

Faust showed up at an Orange Glen basketball practice to visit Salisbury, who was also a star on the Patriots' hoops squad.

The two were standing a center court when Faust offered Salisbury this challenge: "Here's the deal, Sean. I'll give you first shot from here and if you make it, you can go wherever you want," Faust said. "But if you miss and I make it, you are going to Notre Dame."

Salisbury, now a commentator for ESPN, agreed. His shot missed the mark.

Faust bounced the ball a couple of times, then let go with a two-handed set shot that hit nothing but the bottom of the basket.

There was stunned silence in the gym before Faust said, "See you on campus."

North County Times staff writer Terry Monahan, who was working for the Escondido Times-Advocate at the time, witnessed the shot and recalled, "It was the first time I have ever seen Sean at a loss for words."

Of course, Faust did not hold him to the deal. Salisbury went to USC.

El Camino's Dokie Williams was one of the most sought-after talents in 1977.

As a track and football star, many schools wanted him to participate in both sports. Trouble is, Williams could not make up his mind.

He arrived at school the morning of signing day not knowing if he was going to go to USC or UCLA. It was an emotionally draining time for Williams, who did not want to let anyone down but wanted to make the right choice.

He seemed totally confused, until El Camino teacher Lillian Adams came to his rescue. Adams put Williams in a room with the letters from both schools and said, "Don't come out until you sign one."

Coaches from USC and UCLA were anxiously awaiting his decision, which took about three hours to reach. When he came out, Williams said he was going to UCLA. The response from UCLA assistant coach Frank Gansz was priceless.

"God bless you Dokie," Gansz said.

Adams, by the way, is one of the finest members of the Oceanside Unified School District's board of education today.

In 1987, Junior Seau had narrowed his choices of colleges to Colorado and USC.

Seau was very impressed with Colorado during his recruiting trip. As he was having dinner with then-head coach Bill McCartney, a group of football players came in with a cake and sang happy birthday to Seau.

His birthday is Jan. 19.

Seau really wanted to go to Colorado to be with his cousin, Sal Aunese, the team's quarterback.

It never happened. Junior's father, Tiaina Seau, was not as impressed with Colorado, which took the liberty of extending Seau's recruiting trip by one day without his dad's permission.

That pretty much sealed the deal for USC.

On national letter of intent day in 1991, Carlsbad High linebacker Ted Johnson had nothing to sign. He was ignored.

Johnson had played on a losing team, and at 210 pounds, was considered an average high school player.

But a reporter had a chance conversation with a Colorado assistant coach and raved about Johnson.

As luck would have it, a player Colorado thought it was getting withdrew his commitment several days later. That left a scholarship open, and Colorado took a chance on Johnson.

Johnson played four years, three as a starter. By the time his senior year ended in 1994, he was a first-team All-American. In 1995 he was New England's second-round draft pick.

Sunday, he will play in his fourth Super Bowl. Not bad for a guy who was never recruited.

Antmeister
08-18-2006, 07:17 PM
Aww shit, I was getting my high schools mixed up. Dokie (not Doakie) played for El Camino which is the other HS in Oceanside. Anyway, here's an interesting article I dug up with some familiar names (I graduated from OG in 78 when Salisbury was a freshman).

You still may be correct however. Back in the day, there was a time when they were both named Oceanside. What is currently called Oceanside High School used to be called Oceanside West and El Camino used to be called Oceanside East. I just don't know what year it was officially called El Camino High.

Damn and you graduated from high school when Salisbury was a freshman. I am starting to feel young again.:D

tanglewood
08-18-2006, 07:24 PM
Seau was released by Miami prior to his retirement. he only then retired because he couldn't agree a deal with any teams. Now the Pats have made him an offer he's unretired. Don't see the problem here.

Ksyrup
08-18-2006, 09:42 PM
How ridiculous. I thought his farewell "speech" was great, then he goes and does this. I guess you ain't graduating, Junior...you've been held back!

KevinNU7
08-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Going to the Pats is a graduation

Ksyrup
08-18-2006, 10:35 PM
Not according to Junior. He was graduating from the NFL.

bhlloy
08-18-2006, 11:03 PM
I don't have a problem with this, in fact it's awesome. He thought he was forced to retire because nobody wanted him, so he wanted to retire as a Charger (classy) and now he gets to go to the best franchise in the game. Good for him - and I hope the Chargers sign him again when he is done so he can retire as one.

MizzouRah
08-18-2006, 11:31 PM
Is he going to be on madden roster for download?


:D

Izulde
08-18-2006, 11:56 PM
While I do think it was a little cheap on Junior's part, I like the Chargers' organization response who just wished him well.

bhlloy
08-19-2006, 12:50 AM
While I do think it was a little cheap on Junior's part, I like the Chargers' organization response who just wished him well.

Nothing personal, but I just don't understand this point of view. He thought nobody wanted him and he wanted to make a classy move, to retire with the organization who drafted him and gave him so many good years. Then the best organization in the league offers him a chance to come in and compete for a starting job for the first part of the season - when the only reason he retired was that nobody would give him a chance (and I'm sure the Chargers knew that) what is he supposed to do? Unfortunate timing, but nothing cheap on his part.

Vinatieri for Prez
08-19-2006, 02:07 AM
Yeah, I am sure the critics out there would turn down $750k+ because someone threw them a party.

Ksyrup
08-19-2006, 10:59 AM
Nothing personal, but I just don't understand this point of view. He thought nobody wanted him and he wanted to make a classy move, to retire with the organization who drafted him and gave him so many good years. Then the best organization in the league offers him a chance to come in and compete for a starting job for the first part of the season - when the only reason he retired was that nobody would give him a chance (and I'm sure the Chargers knew that) what is he supposed to do? Unfortunate timing, but nothing cheap on his part.

Wait until the end of the pre-season, when 99% of roster moves have been made, then retire. Retiring in week 2 of the preseason, when you really still want to play, is a stupid move, IMO. What would it have hurt to wait 2-3 more weeks?

bhlloy
08-19-2006, 11:50 AM
Wait until the end of the pre-season, when 99% of roster moves have been made, then retire. Retiring in week 2 of the preseason, when you really still want to play, is a stupid move, IMO. What would it have hurt to wait 2-3 more weeks?

Meh... I guess but there is just as much chance of somebody getting injured in week 2 or week 14 of the regular season. Remember the only reason the Pats have a spot for him is because of the injury to Bruschi. I'd imagine there are more moves made like this in the regular season actually, because those are the starters playing and getting hurt and teams desperately need veterans to replace them.

I'm guessing the earlier he retired the better for the Chargers as well, because the closer you get to the season the fewer players you are allowed to have signed.

I really don't see the big deal with this, and evidently the Chargers don't either

Ksyrup
08-19-2006, 02:05 PM
I don't have a problem with it, I just think it cheapens his real retirement. Especially the way he went out, with an impassioned speech. To turn around 2 days later and decide to unretire looks ridiculous. Bruschi's been hurt for quite a while; Seau's agents couldn't have made one last call asking whether they were interested before he decided to officially announce his retirement?