So, how much damage did I do to my fantasy team? [Archive]

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 09:44 AM

I have Shaun Alexander as my keeper, and won the league last year... so I pick 12th out of 12 teams.

When the pick got to me, there was one RB that stood a tier above the rest: Warrick Dunn. The only reason why I was stuck on whether to take him or not was because Alexander and Dunn both have a week 5 bye. The drop off on my list between Dunn and the next available guys (Droughns, Kevin Jones) was pretty big in my mind, but now I'm stuck with both my RBs being out in the same week.

I ended up taking DeAngelo Williams and Mike Bell with later picks (couldn't get thier handcuffs, as everyone seemed to pickoff somoene else's handcuff. I don't think anyone got a handcuff for their backs. Tatum and Dayne went before Mike too).

So, I'm hoping one of Williams of Bell can be used in week 5, but I was curious what other FOFC members would do in this situation? Would you have taken Dunn? Or would you have taken someone who you thought was a tier below, in order to avoid the problem I have now?

WSUCougar

08-29-2006, 09:47 AM

I would have taken one of the other two.

gottimd

08-29-2006, 09:49 AM

I assume it snaked around so you got picks 12 and 13. Out of curiousity, what other position players were available? Did you pass up on a quality WR for a second tier RB at that spot? I think if I was in your position, I would've held off on Dunn for another round, especially if he has the same bye week and also because I don't think he will do that great even without Duckett there. Vick still can roll out and run, and he still has Crumpler in Goal line situations.

rkmsuf

08-29-2006, 09:49 AM

I rarely look at the bye weeks when drafting. I let the fates decide.

WSUCougar

08-29-2006, 09:51 AM

I imagine the Fates have bent you over a table a few times, then. :D

johnnyshaka

08-29-2006, 09:51 AM

I can't really give advice if I don't know what is out there... you gave a list of a few players, but what else is there?

Couldn't help myself...sorry.

That's a tough one. Picking so late, I'd probably take the best guy available, obviously you thought it was Dunn, and then either hope he helps or use him to make a trade later for a back you can use during Week 5.

rkmsuf

08-29-2006, 09:53 AM

I imagine the Fates have bent you over a table a few times, then. :D

Occasionally. It's good for you though.

I just looked for the first time at my byes after reading this. Week 5 and 6 will be a bit lean. Beyond that I mock the fates.

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 10:01 AM

I got Chambers as my other WR. There were some decent WR left (third tier for me... so about 9 or 10 of the top WR were taken by then).

I don't know, I think Dunn can have a good year, so I'd prefer him over a guy like Jones. This is a pretty RB-heavy league, where one team had like 5 RB and 1 WR at one point. So RBs get thin really fast. If I didn't pick a RB with the 12th or 13th, I really wouldn't have liked my 2nd RB.

TroyF

08-29-2006, 10:14 AM

The only thing that scares me here is how your two backs will hold up. Alexander carried the ball 370 times last year and added another 60 carries in the playoffs. Backs who carry that kind of a load generally perform quite poorly the following year. Emmitt Smith was an exception, but I'm not sure Alexander is going to hold up that well.

Dunn is a guy who wears down as the season moves on. He didn't have a 20 carry game in the final 8 last year. For the first 8 games of the season, he averaged 102 rushing yards per game. He averaged 74 the last 8. Add the fact that he never gets TD's, and I'm not sure I like him over other potential backs you could have had.

But if you felt Dunn was the best, you had to take the shot and live or die with the decision.

molson

08-29-2006, 10:49 AM

I rarely look at the bye weeks when drafting. I let the fates decide.

Ya, I think the strategy of spreading around your bye weeks is overrated. I'd rather be a huge underdog because of byes in one week, and then be at virtual full strength the rest of the season. Anything can happen in an individual week. But if you have gaps in your roster almost every week because you spread around the byes, then I don't see how that's too helpful.

johnnyshaka

08-29-2006, 10:50 AM

Alexander has carried the ball over 300 times every season except one where he carried it 295 times...I'd say he's pretty durable.

BrianD

08-29-2006, 10:56 AM

I've actually got Droughns listed higher than Dunn, but they will probably be rather close. I personally would have picked Droughns to spread the bye weeks out, but you can just declare week 5 a probable-loss and plan to be strong the rest of the weeks. I don't think it will hurt you too much.

TroyF

08-29-2006, 11:15 AM

Alexander has carried the ball over 300 times every season except one where he carried it 295 times...I'd say he's pretty durable.

His most ever carries in a year previous was 368 (including playoffs) 430 is just a tad higher.

As for the durability, I'm not sure that helps your point. All that shows is that he's continuing to get beat up on a yearly basis. Alexander is almost a bonafied lock to break down badly within the next two seasons because of his workload.

There are a handful of guys who have succeeded in a year after getting 400+ carries in a season. And there are a ton of guys who bombed out badly. Alexander may beat the odds, but I believe the likelihood is high that he breaks down this year. Everyone will call it the Madden curse, of course, but it won't have anything to do with a curse and everything to do with a ridiculously high workload.

Lathum

08-29-2006, 11:31 AM

as long as you play me in week 5 I say it was a brillant move!

hoosiergoody

08-29-2006, 11:39 AM

Dunn is a guy who wears down as the season moves on. He didn't have a 20 carry game in the final 8 last year. For the first 8 games of the season, he averaged 102 rushing yards per game. He averaged 74 the last 8. Add the fact that he never gets TD's, and I'm not sure I like him over other potential backs you could have had.

Did you take into consideration that the Falcons CHOSE to go with 2 backs the 2nd half, and that they used Duckett at the goal line? Duckett just got traded, so Dunn will be used more as the main back this year...

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 11:40 AM

as long as you play me in week 5 I say it was a brillant move!

:P It's not THAT league. I just wish I could carry over my team from last year in this league... Brady, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Alexander, Tiki, and Shockey.

hoosiergoody

08-29-2006, 11:41 AM

I would take my chances on the waiver wire or see who's done good weeks one-four and make some pickups that way if you have any bench positions...

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 11:45 AM

I would take my chances on the waiver wire or see who's done good weeks one-four and make some pickups that way if you have any bench positions...

Provided that Alexander and Dunn are doing well, the best case scenario is Mike Bell and DeAngelo Williams are playing well for their respective teams at that point (and are both starting). If I can't use them directly, then hopefully trade one of these guys for a serviceable back in week 5.

I'll be watching the waiver wire as well though! :D

rkmsuf

08-29-2006, 11:46 AM

TroyF

08-29-2006, 11:59 AM

Did you take into consideration that the Falcons CHOSE to go with 2 backs the 2nd half, and that they used Duckett at the goal line? Duckett just got traded, so Dunn will be used more as the main back this year...

Yeah, I took it into account. What I took into account was the fact the Falcons were trying to save him. And I don't think it's going to change this year. They want to protect his touches and do not want him carrying the rock 25 times a game.

Last year was his career high in carries. I don't think the Falcons are going to hand it off to him 300 times in a season, because they are just as worried about the negative impact it would have as I am. The Falcons did trade TJ. but I don't think that means a ton more carries for Mr. Dunn.

The carries will be picked up by the "big" back who will likely replace Dunn near the goal line now in Jackson, and Jerious Norwood has provided some bigtime plays this preseason and will likely steal a few carries on third downs.

Samdari

08-29-2006, 12:11 PM

Did you take into consideration that the Falcons CHOSE to go with 2 backs the 2nd half, and that they used Duckett at the goal line? Duckett just got traded, so Dunn will be used more as the main back this year...

Isn't it possible that the Falcons CHOSE to go with 2 backs is because Dunn cannot handle 300 carries a season, something he has proven, I don't know, every year in his career? The 280 carries last season represent his career high. He is a good back for up to 250 carries, but nothing more.

Now, do you really think the Falcons got rid of Duckett because they saw something in Dunn that made him ready for an every down back role in his 10th season, over the age of 30 (you know, when RBs really blossom)?

No, they got rid of Duckett because he was getting his ass kicked by Norwood in practice every day, and they did not want to pay him first round salary to be the third string running back (and likely often inactive, since the third string RB generally has to play special teams, which Duckett did not do) and then let him walk at the end of the year, when they could get something for him by trading him now.

Anthony

08-29-2006, 12:15 PM

the first question to ask is:

is this a money league?

if the answer is "yes", then proceed to the following solution:

who cares.

PackerFanatic

08-29-2006, 12:35 PM

If you think about though, picking Dunn would really only hurt you for one week...if you feel he is that much better and a good enough #2 and can pick up 2 mediocre backs to fill in during Week 5, then why not?

SuperGrover

08-29-2006, 12:37 PM

The fact you have Dunn so far above Jones and Droughns is a problem in itself.

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 01:05 PM

The fact you have Dunn so far above Jones and Droughns is a problem in itself.

I drafted Kevin Jones last year and he did nothing. I really don't like him as a back, and I don't see him doing anything at all this year.

I also think Droughns will have a bad year. I know he's been pretty solid, but I just don't like him either for some reason. And since this kind of thinking got me the title last year, I figured I'd try it again. Of course, I can end up dead last in the league and look back wondering why I didn't take Jones or Droughns, but at the time of the draft, I felt Dunn was the best option.

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 01:06 PM

the first question to ask is:

is this a money league?

if the answer is "yes", then proceed to the following solution:

who cares.

Yes it's a money league... So who cares I guess then, but I don't get it...? :confused:

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 01:07 PM

Can anyone tell me who Houston's backup is? I thought I read that Wali Lundy might be the man?

edit: err, Houston apparently has a bye in the same week as Dunn and Alexander...

rkmsuf

08-29-2006, 01:08 PM

Yes it's a money league... So who cares I guess then, but I don't get it...? :confused:

dude, your league is so money.

Anthony

08-29-2006, 01:12 PM

Yes it's a money league... So who cares I guess then, but I don't get it...? :confused:

rats. meant to write "if the answer is 'no'...". my bad

i will now give my opinion. you shouldn't have drafted Dunn. yes, he's a poor man's Tiki, but he's old and the WR you could have picked up at #12 (dare i say, Boldin? Moss, even) is worlds better than Dunn. any number of players could have been had at that spot, i imagine, and without knowing who the other keepers were i bet there were players rated high for their position than were worth owning more than Dunn. Dunn is a backup RB in my book (fantasy wise), he's the guy i plug in when my better RBs have a bye week.

gottimd

08-29-2006, 01:13 PM

Can anyone tell me who Houston's backup is? I thought I read that Wali Lundy might be the man?

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* Wali Lundy (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/415672) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/415672)
* Chris Taylor (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/422041) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/422041)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 01:17 PM

Live and learn I guess. :) This was my 2nd live draft ever, and I was in the mentality of having to take a RB and WR with my first two picks... my WR right now are Chambers and Javon Walker with garbage on the bench.

I think Dunn will be good still, but I realize I should have taken another WR. I do believe Boldin was there, not sure about Moss.

MikeVic

08-29-2006, 01:18 PM

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=top align=right height=17><TD align=left>HOU</TD><TD align=left> * Domanick Davis (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/395946) http://images.commissioner.com/images/red_cross.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/395946) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note-cold.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/395946)</TD><TD align=left> * Vernand Morency (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/417237) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note-cold.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/417237)</TD><TD align=left> * Antowain Smith (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/1663) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note-cold.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/1663)
* Wali Lundy (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/415672) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/415672)
* Chris Taylor (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/422041) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/422041)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Thanks. I guess I was wrong. I'm not sure the backup would be much of an option on Houston though?

Samdari

08-29-2006, 01:19 PM

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=top align=right height=17><TD align=left>HOU</TD><TD align=left> * Domanick Davis (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/395946) http://images.commissioner.com/images/red_cross.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/395946) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note-cold.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/395946)</TD><TD align=left> * Vernand Morency (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/417237) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note-cold.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/417237)</TD><TD align=left> * Antowain Smith (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/1663) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note-cold.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/1663)
* Wali Lundy (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/415672) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/415672)
* Chris Taylor (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/422041) http://images.commissioner.com/images/news-note.gif (http://ffl-05.football.sportsline.com/players/player/news/422041)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

But the fact that they have Davis at #1 despite not having practiced might mean that list is outdated. I bet that Lundy will lead the team in rushing, but that no Houston backs will be worth having in a fantasy sense.

gottimd

08-29-2006, 01:23 PM

But the fact that they have Davis at #1 despite not having practiced might mean that list is outdated. I bet that Lundy will lead the team in rushing, but that no Houston backs will be worth having in a fantasy sense.

Davis, even if he misses week #1, will be back by week 2, maybe split carries and be full time #1 by week 3. But I agree, no Houston backs are worth it, they are waiver wire fodder.

johnnyshaka

08-29-2006, 01:29 PM

I've seen reports saying that Lundi will be the man but that Smith and Morency will definitely steal touches as well.

gottimd

08-29-2006, 01:32 PM

Gotta love RB platoons. What happens is, whomever you have/start, gets the least amount of touches, and the other RB's get all the yards and points.

Then next week you sit him expecting a repeat poor performance and your RB ends up with all of the points but you had him on the bench. Now go back to statement #1.

johnnyshaka

08-29-2006, 02:44 PM

See Broncos RBs.

kcchief19

08-29-2006, 03:15 PM

Can anyone tell me who Houston's backup is? I thought I read that Wali Lundy might be the man?
How deep is your league? Unless your league has 10-12 teams with 20-25 man rosters, a backup running back on a team like Houston should be on your list of players to never consider in a million years. They aren't going to see the field, and even if they do, who cares, they will suck.

As to the original question, isolating a few key players into a single bye week can be a very effective strategy if you don't have a lot of depth at that position. Given the facts available, I see nothing wrong with the selection. Suck it up and take one big hit one week instead of two small hits and move on.

I have successfully employed the strategy of selecting key players with the same bye week so that I can take one hit and be strong the rest of the season while all the other teams take week-to-week hits. The bigger the hit you take that one week, the better you will be in another week. Why take hits almost every week when you can take one giant hit?

If it's a viable option, I'd even look to see if you can't make a trade that might get some more guys on the same bye week. What makes this strategy even sweeter is when you get lucky and play somebody in your scrub week who has a bad week and somebody like Charlie Frye has his one good game of the season and leads you to victory. :)

Samdari

08-29-2006, 03:36 PM

Davis, even if he misses week #1, will be back by week 2, maybe split carries and be full time #1 by week 3. But I agree, no Houston backs are worth it, they are waiver wire fodder.

Everyone seems to be saying he is almost assuredly going to be placed on the PUP and be ineligible to play the first 6 weeks. He is 50/50 to play at all this year.

If Davis indeed is #1 by week 3, I see no reason why he'd be worse than in years past.

hoosiergoody

08-29-2006, 04:51 PM

Yeah, I took it into account. What I took into account was the fact the Falcons were trying to save him. And I don't think it's going to change this year. They want to protect his touches and do not want him carrying the rock 25 times a game.

Last year was his career high in carries. I don't think the Falcons are going to hand it off to him 300 times in a season, because they are just as worried about the negative impact it would have as I am. The Falcons did trade TJ. but I don't think that means a ton more carries for Mr. Dunn.

The carries will be picked up by the "big" back who will likely replace Dunn near the goal line now in Jackson, and Jerious Norwood has provided some bigtime plays this preseason and will likely steal a few carries on third downs.

Isn't it possible that the Falcons CHOSE to go with 2 backs is because Dunn cannot handle 300 carries a season, something he has proven, I don't know, every year in his career? The 280 carries last season represent his career high. He is a good back for up to 250 carries, but nothing more.

Now, do you really think the Falcons got rid of Duckett because they saw something in Dunn that made him ready for an every down back role in his 10th season, over the age of 30 (you know, when RBs really blossom)?

No, they got rid of Duckett because he was getting his ass kicked by Norwood in practice every day, and they did not want to pay him first round salary to be the third string running back (and likely often inactive, since the third string RB generally has to play special teams, which Duckett did not do) and then let him walk at the end of the year, when they could get something for him by trading him now.

Understand. Was just pointing out that mainly they used Duckett near the end zone, and there is that chance that Dunn will get those carries and another back will be the 3rd down/other situations back. Don't take this as sarcastic- thanks for doing more research than I did prior to answering. Unless Vick actually does something, no one is a viable option

MikeVic

08-31-2006, 11:59 AM

rkmsuf

08-31-2006, 12:05 PM

Chris Chambers
DeAngelo Williams

for

Santana Moss
Deuce McAllister

Anyone have word on how Santana Moss will be doing this year? I'd think with all those WR in Washington now, he won't be as good as someone like Chambers...

And how has Deuce McAllister done with his injury? Or will Bush eventually win the spot there and I shouldn't even bother getting him?

I don't like this trade at all really, but I'd like input as I have that RB bye-week thing happening with my team. :)

I'm a big fan of Chambers. I think he might be sitting on a real big season.

Deuce is still probably a 20 touch guy but looks to be a step slower than he was. That Sean Peyton is a crackpot over there so who knows how he'll use Bush.

I like Williams/Chambers better.

MikeVic

08-31-2006, 12:35 PM

I'm a big fan of Chambers. I think he might be sitting on a real big season.

Deuce is still probably a 20 touch guy but looks to be a step slower than he was. That Sean Peyton is a crackpot over there so who knows how he'll use Bush.

I like Williams/Chambers better.

Thanks. Yeah, I have a feeling that Chambers could put up a really nice season.... meanwhile Moss could be a disappointment. And as far as I'm concerned, both DeAngelo and Deuce are in the air... but Williams has more upside. I just thought there was maybe something I didn't see.

watravaler

08-31-2006, 04:09 PM

With Alexander, you could have waited for a RB with some upside (see Frank Gore) and been alright, as long as you have M.Morris on your squad. Nevertheless, Dunn is money, so you will be fine.

MikeVic

08-31-2006, 04:12 PM

Gore was taken right before I drafted.. and then on the snake-around, the same guy took Domanick Davis... heh.

I wanted Morris, but in the 2nd or 3rd last round a buddy said "if you don't take your handcuff now, I'll take him." I didn't believe him, since why would he say it? So I didn't take him... and the guy ended up taking him with his next pick. :mad:

MikeVic

09-01-2006, 02:24 PM

rkmsuf

09-01-2006, 02:28 PM

TE question...

I was the last one to pick one... and I got Vernon Davis. I read now that he isn't even the starter?? I know that rookie TEs don't normally do well, but I thought he might be an exception... anyway, there's TEs on the waivers such as:

Wiggins
Jeramy Stevens
Troupe
Pollard
Mangum

Am I better to stick with Davis, or to pick up someone like Wiggins or Troupe?

Wiggins is probably the best of that group. Tough call. Eric Johnson in San Fran is 50/50 to get hurt and they'll want to give Davis time on the field.

Wiggins might give you like 3 or 4 TDs and 40 yards a game. Maybe Davis has bigger upside.

stevew

09-01-2006, 02:34 PM

I'd keep Davis.

zums

09-01-2006, 04:58 PM

def go with troupe - norm chow loves using the TE, i think there was a stat that the Titans last year had the most attempts to a TE in history or somethin like that - that was with Troupe splitting time w/ Kinney, who is now hurt. Troupe is def a legitimate sleeper candidate

-zums

MikeVic

09-01-2006, 05:22 PM

Yeah, that's the problem. I like Wiggins and Troupe too. But if I drop Davis, someone will pick him up (I know that for a fact). And I don't want to drop my other bench guys, since I think they have some potential:

DeAngelo Williams
Mike Bell
Troy Williamson
Mark Clayton
David Givens
Byron Leftwich

stevew

09-01-2006, 05:35 PM

Davis might not get a lot of PT early in the season, but I'd think he'd be good for around 600 yards and 8-10tds by the end of the season. Especially if he works into their 4 and 5 wide sets.

General Mike

09-01-2006, 06:34 PM

Cut Givens.

MikeVic

09-12-2006, 11:38 PM

Ok, a conundrum(sp?)...

I have Delhomme and Leftwich as my QBs, and the Steelers as my D. I don't want to start Delhomme again if Steve Smith is injured... and I don't want to start Leftwich if I start the Steelers D...

So, I can pick up either Pennington, Alex Smith, David Carr, Rex Grossman, or the Chargers D... if I pick up a QB, I'd play him and the Steelers D. Otherwise it's Leftwich and the Chargers D (assuming I can pick them up).

Any opinions as to what I should do? I'm leaning towards picking up Pennington and hoping he has a great game at home vs a Pats D that let Losman do "not bad."

Thanks again.

rkmsuf

09-13-2006, 08:44 AM

you could consider Alex Smith in this spot

MikeVic

09-13-2006, 09:13 AM

you could consider Alex Smith in this spot

Think he'll do good against the Rams?

rkmsuf

09-13-2006, 09:17 AM

Think he'll do good against the Rams?

No idea. It's at home though and for some reason envision a lot of points. Not sure I like Pennington this week. I would put Smith and even Grossman ahead of him.

Samdari

09-13-2006, 09:37 AM

Grossman is the best QB there, with (sadly) the best collection of targets as well.

The Chargers D might be better long term though. I think they'll end up one of the top 5 or 6.

MikeVic

09-14-2006, 09:49 AM

I ended up grabbing Grossman and the Chargers. I don't trust the Steelers D against the Jags (and with me having Leftwich too, I hate deciding which to play, so I'm playing neither :P)... Grossman will start if Steve Smith is still out or if he's a gametime decision come Saturday evening.

I dropped Mark Clayton (who didn't seem to do much in the Ravens game), and Troupe (I'll gamble with Vernon for now).

I still need DeAngelo Williams to gain a lot of playing time if I'm not to be screwed in week 5. I'd feel safe with Mike Bell as a bye-week starter thus far, but not Williams.

MikeVic

09-19-2006, 10:45 PM

Grossman paid off. ;)

However, I noticed that Mike Bell plays the Ravens in Week 5 (my doomed bye-week of Dunn and Alexander)... tried getting Addai for that week, but I don't think I have anything I can trade that's good enough.

MikeVic

09-21-2006, 08:07 PM

What does everyone think of this trade proposed to me:

I trade DeAngelo Williams, Car to Bocks
I trade Troy Williamson, Min to Bocks
I get Joseph Addai, Ind to Isotopes
I get Doug Gabriel, NE to Isotopes

I think I don't benefit at all. I wanted Addai for my week 5 hell, but if DeAngelo is gone... I still have that hell. :P And I think Williamson is better than Gabriel... am I crazy, or is this one a no-brainer to decline?

mrsimperless

09-21-2006, 08:35 PM

From what we've seen from Addai so far this year he seems to be a better back than Rhodes. That being said Dungy is still insistent that the Colts will stick with a 2-back scheme this year and use Rhodes and Addai interchangeably.

I personally think there is about a 75% chance, possibly more, of Addai seperating himself from Rhodes and getting the bulk of the carries, yards and TDs. Add to that the fact that he appears to be a viable target for Manning as well and you have a potential producer for your fantasy team.

But take that for what it is. I don't know enough about the other players involved in the proposed trade to make an accurate comparison.

MikeVic

09-22-2006, 07:43 AM

Anyone else think this might not be a bad trade?

stevew

09-22-2006, 07:57 AM

DeShaun Foster has looked awful thus far. 2.9 per Carry. So it wouldn't be suprising to see Williams start to get a bunch of touches. I think he scored about 15 points last week.

flere-imsaho

09-22-2006, 08:13 AM

I trade DeAngelo Williams, Car to Bocks
I trade Troy Williamson, Min to Bocks
I get Joseph Addai, Ind to Isotopes
I get Doug Gabriel, NE to Isotopes

That's a tough one. Foster's never looked like he can carry the load in Carolina, and given that I have faith the Panthers will turn things around at some point, you can probably count on Williams producing at some point.

On the other hand, Addai's been producing already, and I'd say he's probably going to have as good a year as Williams might have. Depending on your league's scoring system, one thing you might want to look at is whether or not either are being pulled for goal-line carries.

For the WRs, I think Gabriel > Williamson, to be honest, though, again, it's probably a wash and we'll know a lot more in a few weeks. One could argue that Brady's got to throw to someone in NE, but Belichick & Co have seemed fine using a 2 or 3-TE formation as a passing one, so who knows. For Minnesota, is Williamson their #1 WR? It's hard to say. Bear in mind that Minnesota will have some NFC North games during your FF playoffs that will probably be played in terrible weather and largely be running games.

Good luck. :D