Brett Favre... will G.B. trade him?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I saw on NBC this past week a subject I wouldn't have thought possible: Green Bay shipping out Brett Favre to hand the reiins over to Aaron Rogers.

Although I don't think this would happen, I wondered where he might be shipped to if this actually did happen. NBC's analists made no mention of teams.

I thought the only logical place would be Tampa Bay. Simms has looked awful. This was supposed to be a good team. The defense is still pretty good. They have some receivers. They have some running backs. Favre has enough experiences in offenses extremely close to, if not Gruden's offense. Gruden likes the 2 TE base? It worked pretty well for Favre before. It's also down south, so Favre wouldn't be too far from his home.

[Yossarian]

never gonna happen

[korme]

how bout no scott

[bulletsponge]

can GB even get a draft pick for him?

[Samdari]

can GB even get a draft pick for him?

Uh, yeah, no problem.

Tennessee would probably give a pick for him, and Miami should want to but probably does not. Joe Gibbs loves veterans and hates draft picks, he'd take Favre in a heartbeat.

New York, Indy, Philly and Seattle (hmmm....) would love to have Favre as a backup I am sure, and would be nearly QB controversy immune. But I doubt Favre would like being traded out of his starting spot to be a backup.

[Raiders Army]

Will not happen.

[cthomer5000]

saint happening.

[Noble_Platypus]

There would be a mutiny in Wisconsin if they did trade him.

[Passacaglia]

I wish I were a blowhard...then I could be on NBC, too.

[Fonzie]

There would be a mutiny in Wisconsin if they did trade him.

I agree. TT has already burned a lot of the honeymoon goodwill the Packers fans gave him with some profoundly stupid moves. Trading Favre at this point would be the equivalent of Ted giving the bird to the entire state. I don't think TT is the brightest bulb on the planet, but I don't think he'd be so stupid as to be the GM Who Ran Favre Out Of Town.

The only scenario in which I can foresee a Favre trade would be if he said something to the effect of "I think it would be best for the Packers to develop their players of the future, so I'm willing to go elsewhere if it'll help the team." The fans would have to be convinced Favre wanted to go, but the split would have to be amicable.

[WSUCougar]

Smoke from the burning cheese pyres would be seen as far away as North Dakota.

[Senator]

Chris Simms. One of the most accurate predictions I have ever made was knowing how bad he would be.

[MalcPow]

Chris Simms. One of the most accurate predictions I have ever made was knowing how bad he would be.

It is funny how he was once again able to convince some people, for a little while at least, that, "Hey, this guy might not be that bad." From what I understand, he is one of the greatest practice field quarterbacks of our lifetimes. :)

[JS19]

I don't think TT is the brightest bulb on the planet, but I don't think he'd be so stupid as to be the GM Who Ran Favre Out Of Town.

I agree there's no way he will be traded, but can't one argue that Favre ran himself out of town?

[-Mojo Jojo-]

I agree there's no way he will be traded, but can't one argue that Favre ran himself out of town?

In what respect?

[stevew]

I think this has got to be his final year there, regardless of whether he retires, gets traded, or gets cut following the season. Unless they move towards .500, that is.

[Ksyrup]

What if he wants to go? Doesn't that make it easier? Kinda like Bourque being sent to the Avs a few years back (although here, Favre's already got a SB ring, but still).

[JS19]

In what respect?

His whole off-season drama, letting the team wait, and wait some more before deciding to return. His 29 INTS last yr, as well as a 70.9 QB rating, and just the fact that maybe he's just not that great a QB anymore. Point is, if they feel Rogers is ready, and they can get something for Favre, they need to grow some balls and understand it's a business and they gotta do what they gotta do.

Now you can also argue that GB was dumb enough to keep him around and let him do as he pleased.

[JimmyWint]

Living 20 minutes from Lambeau gives me a unique perspective. I will say this much, Favre wants out of Green Bay, but he wants to be diplomatic about it as to not piss off the fans. Just before the season started he said he was now 99.9% sure that he would retire a Packer, but he would not rule out going to a different team. He hinted that maybe the team wanted to go in a different direction.

The Packer Brass wanted him to retire, and now they are kind of stuck playing him. I have been pretty down on him the last few seasons, because he has been running scared, and he has made some really bad decisions on the field. Everyone always gives him a free pass because he is a "gunslinger" blah blah. he is more afraid to take a hit than to win a football game.

That being said I have ZERO Faith in Thompson or McCarthy. Look at how Alex Smith has performed so far this season after he escaped the McCarthy influence. It is going to be a long time before the Packers get things squared away.

It would not suprise me to see him get Traded to a contender. They would have to spin it as though both he and the team had agreed to the deal though.

[Jas_lov]

I thought the Packer Brass were the ones that helped talked him into coming back. McCarthy made a special trip to Favre's home just to talk him into it. Now Ted Thompson may be a different story, but I doubt Favre will be traded. Either he'll see lots of improvement as the season progresses and will decide to come back next year or he'll retire after this season. I'd lean towards retirement, but as he said you can't entirely rule out the possibility of playing for another team like Tampa or Washington.

[Hurst2112]

Living 20 minutes from Lambeau gives me a unique perspective.

That was my line for awhile. Glad somebody else took it over. ;)

[HomerSimpson]

I could see Brett Favre going to a contender like Kansas City very easily.

[Eaglesfan27]

I could see Brett Favre going to a contender like Kansas City very easily.


Assuming he can come back healthy, I'd take Trent Green over Brett Favre at this point in their careers.

[HomerSimpson]

Assuming he can come back healthy, I'd take Trent Green over Brett Favre at this point in their careers.
But, would you take a health Damon Huard over Favre?



Today they reported that Green is out indefinatley, and there is no time table for his return. It is being reported that 10 days after the hit, Trent Green is still unable to even drive his car.

[Eaglesfan27]

But, would you take a health Damon Huard over Favre?



Today they reported that Green is out indefinatley, and there is no time table for his return. It is being reported that 10 days after the hit, Trent Green is still unable to even drive his car.


Obviuosly not, hence my qualifier. I hadn't heard that about Green. Hopefully, he will recover soon.

[Kodos]

I love Brett, but he is afraid to take a hit these days. I remember 2 or 3 seasons ago, they were down near the endzone on 4th down. They needed a touchdown to win. Anyhow, the pocket collapses and there's a hole that opens up right in front of him. The old Brett would have put his head down and charged for the endzone, but instead he just sidearms some-half assed throw that had little chance of getting caught. In fact, I think it got intercepted. That was when I realized that he wasn't the QB that he once was. When you choose losing over taking a hit to win, it's probably time to get out.

[Anthony]

i was speaking with a random Packers fan (who saw me wearing my Favre jersey) and he said Favre hasn't been the same since he got off the addiction to painkillers. anyone agree w/ that? seems he got off the painkillers a long time ago (late 90's?). but that would coincide w/ Kodos' post about Favre not wanting to get hit anymore.

[Kodos]

I think there were a few years between him getting off of the painkillers and becoming afraid to take a hit.

[albionmoonlight]

Has a midseason trade for a starting QB ever worked in the NFL. It would seem that issues of playbook understanding, receiver timing, etc. would make it very hard to succeed.

The only instance of which I can think off the top of my head was when Kerry Collins went to New Orleans in mid-season after being let go by the Panthers. He managed to start, but that was during the Ditka years when our quarterbacks were the Billy Joes. It's not like you could call his tenure in New Orleans a success.

I can't think of another instance of it working in the NFL.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Ehh, just send him to the raiders.... Al will love an upgrade at that position!

[M GO BLUE!!!]

It is being reported that 10 days after the hit, Trent Green is still unable to even drive his car.
So the hit turned him into a woman? :D

As far as Green/Favre is concerned, there is no way Herm would have a QB as reckless as Brett. Would Favre accept a trade to a team that plays a completely different offense? Probably not. That limits possible trades to teams that run a form of the "West Coast" offense (I hate that term... it has it's roots in Cincinnati! The shotgun started in San Francisco!) In the offense that K.C. runs, I would take a healthy Trent Green over Favre any day. Favre in KC is a failure. Favre in TB is a playoff team. He'd also be likely to play at least one more year down there.

[Fonzie]

Recent comments from Favre on the prospect of being traded - full article can be found at hxxp://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060921/PKR01/609210477/1989:

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Posted September 21, 2006

Trade not on Favre's wish list

By Pete Dougherty
[email protected]
For the record, Brett Favre finds an in-season trade to a playoff contender extremely unappealing.

The chances of the Green Bay Packers trading their future Hall of Fame quarterback this season are exceptionally low, but NFL observers have raised the possibility because the 0-2 Packers' prospects for this season look bad, whereas at least two teams expecting big years, Washington and Tampa Bay, have had quarterback problems while getting off to 0-2 starts.

But aside from the other roadblocks to a deal — namely, would a team be willing to give up a high enough draft pick to make it worth trading Favre? — there looms a likely deal breaker. Favre probably wouldn't accept a trade. The 36-year-old said Wednesday he'd find such a move unattractive — "Would I go? I don't think so. Really don't," he said — because he'd have to learn a new offense in a short period of time and would face unrealistic expectations.

"You don't get to the Super Bowl, you don't play up to expectations, then it was a loss from my standpoint and the team who would make that trade," Favre said at his bi-weekly press conference. "I'd much rather stay here and give them my best. The fans have been great to me, the team has been great to me and I'd like to think I've filled my end of the bargain as well. But there's still some juice left in me here. Just because we're struggling right now, I'm not going to bail just like that."

Favre doesn't have a no-trade clause in his contract, but could block a deal by telling a team he wouldn't play if traded.

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And from TT (from the same article):

"I can't imagine a scenario where (a Favre trade) would happen," General Manager Ted Thompson said. "I haven't heard from anybody, and it hasn't even crossed my mind."

[BrianD]

So the hit turned him into a woman? :D


I can't believe you got no love for this comment. I almost spit my soda. :)

[Izulde]

If Favre got traded, there'd be riots all around the state.

[primelord]

I am not a Packers fan so maybe I just don't get it, but why would there be riots if Favre was traded? While I certainly realize his legendary status in Green Bay, a trade would do nothing but help this team in the future (assuming they got decent value for him). He isn't the QB he used to be and certainly isn;t enough to help this team win.

Favre seems to still ahve more than enough to help a good team, but in Green Bay there just isn't enough left to make it matter. It seems to me that since they appear to be heading towards another top 5 pick, they are much better off trying to find out what exactly they have with Rodgers. No need to let another year go by without having a chance to draft a franchise QB because you still don't have any idea what you have with last QB you drafted.

Wouldn't Green Bay fans rather see Brett have a chance to win again before he hangs them up?

[JS19]

I am not a Packers fan so maybe I just don't get it, but why would there be riots if Favre was traded? While I certainly realize his legendary status in Green Bay, a trade would do nothing but help this team in the future (assuming they got decent value for him). He isn't the QB he used to be and certainly isn;t enough to help this team win.

Favre seems to still ahve more than enough to help a good team, but in Green Bay there just isn't enough left to make it matter. It seems to me that since they appear to be heading towards another top 5 pick, they are much better off trying to find out what exactly they have with Rodgers. No need to let another year go by without having a chance to draft a franchise QB because you still don't have any idea what you have with last QB you drafted.

Wouldn't Green Bay fans rather see Brett have a chance to win again before he hangs them up?

Not exactly the same situation, but it would be like if the Yankees traded Bernie Williams. I think everyone would agree, he had a good run but it's time to move on.

[BrianD]

I am not a Packers fan so maybe I just don't get it, but why would there be riots if Favre was traded? While I certainly realize his legendary status in Green Bay, a trade would do nothing but help this team in the future (assuming they got decent value for him). He isn't the QB he used to be and certainly isn;t enough to help this team win.

Favre seems to still ahve more than enough to help a good team, but in Green Bay there just isn't enough left to make it matter. It seems to me that since they appear to be heading towards another top 5 pick, they are much better off trying to find out what exactly they have with Rodgers. No need to let another year go by without having a chance to draft a franchise QB because you still don't have any idea what you have with last QB you drafted.

Wouldn't Green Bay fans rather see Brett have a chance to win again before he hangs them up?

No, I think Green Bay fans would rather see Favre on the team and not winning rather than see him go somewhere else and win. Remember, this is the city that sold out regularly during the Randy Wright era. The fans would like to see the team do well, but the don't want to see their hero shipped out to try to make that happen.

I live only 10 minutes from the stadium, so I know. ;)

[primelord]

Has a midseason trade for a starting QB ever worked in the NFL. It would seem that issues of playbook understanding, receiver timing, etc. would make it very hard to succeed.

The only instance of which I can think off the top of my head was when Kerry Collins went to New Orleans in mid-season after being let go by the Panthers. He managed to start, but that was during the Ditka years when our quarterbacks were the Billy Joes. It's not like you could call his tenure in New Orleans a success.

I can't think of another instance of it working in the NFL.

Well I also don't think there has ever been a QB of Favre's calibre traded mid-season either.

[Izulde]

I am not a Packers fan so maybe I just don't get it, but why would there be riots if Favre was traded? While I certainly realize his legendary status in Green Bay, a trade would do nothing but help this team in the future (assuming they got decent value for him). He isn't the QB he used to be and certainly isn;t enough to help this team win.

Favre seems to still ahve more than enough to help a good team, but in Green Bay there just isn't enough left to make it matter. It seems to me that since they appear to be heading towards another top 5 pick, they are much better off trying to find out what exactly they have with Rodgers. No need to let another year go by without having a chance to draft a franchise QB because you still don't have any idea what you have with last QB you drafted.

Wouldn't Green Bay fans rather see Brett have a chance to win again before he hangs them up?

I'm not a Packers fan either, but Wisconsin's state mentality is such that, much as BrianD indicates, they'd rather keep their heroes and lose rather than show disloyalty by trading away a legend for some improvement.

It may be that the fact that the Packers are a publically owned team has something to do with it as well. The whole idea of not making it more than the average cut-throat business and whatnot.

[JimmyWint]

There are plenty of Locals that are ready to move on. Just listen to the local talk radio sometime. It is unfortunate that he could not go out on top like Elway, but now he is just in it for the records and his "love for the game" which I have to question. Ironically i believe he is 21 TD's short of the Marino Record, but he is only 17 Interceptions short of the Blanda record. Don't quote me on that though.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

No, I think Green Bay fans would rather see Favre on the team and not winning rather than see him go somewhere else and win. Remember, this is the city that sold out regularly during the Randy Wright era. The fans would like to see the team do well, but the don't want to see their hero shipped out to try to make that happen.


And god bless 'em. Some things are sacred. Brett Favre has been the quarterback of the Packers since I was 15 years old. He's practically family to Packer fans. If Ted Thompson runs him out of town he'll be lynched. Let Green Bay be the one place in the overcommercialized sports universe where tradition and loyalty still count for something...

[stevew]

I live about 6 hours from Lambeau field, so I think i have a unique perspective on the situation. Brett Favre will continue to make the type of plays that only Brett Favre can make....that's why he's Brett Favre.

[BrianD]

There are plenty of Locals that are ready to move on. Just listen to the local talk radio sometime. It is unfortunate that he could not go out on top like Elway, but now he is just in it for the records and his "love for the game" which I have to question. Ironically i believe he is 21 TD's short of the Marino Record, but he is only 17 Interceptions short of the Blanda record. Don't quote me on that though.

Locals are ready to move on, but that is different. Some of us (me included) would have liked to have Favre retire at the end of last year and see what Rodgers can do. Packer fans would mourn the end of an era, but we'd move on. Trading the legend to another team just doesn't enter our minds. Favre is the first good QB in Green Bay in a LONG time, and we'll hang on to him until he hangs up the cleats...which probably should have happened a year or two ago.

[BrianD]

I live about 6 hours from Lambeau field, so I think i have a unique perspective on the situation. Brett Favre will continue to make the type of plays that only Brett Favre can make....that's why he's Brett Favre.

I believe in math that would be called the identity axiom.

[PackerFanatic]

I would have rather had Favre retire after last year, just Brian said, than see him get traded and/or retire during the middle of this year. I really can't see him going past this year, and I want to see him retire a Packer, regardless of how we do this year. Our problems go way deeper than Favre, he is still probably the best player we have.

[stevew]

Our problems go way deeper than Favre, he is still probably the best player we have.

Do you live close enough to Lambeu Field to make that unique observation, though?

[BrianD]

I would have rather had Favre retire after last year, just Brian said, than see him get traded and/or retire during the middle of this year. I really can't see him going past this year, and I want to see him retire a Packer, regardless of how we do this year. Our problems go way deeper than Favre, he is still probably the best player we have.

That may be true, but he seems so different from his former self. He is throwing a lot of picks on bad decisions. Did he always make the bad decision, but have receivers good enough to cover for him, or is he just now finding that he can no longer put the ball "exactly" where he wants to? I still see glimmers of greatness, but there just seems to be so much bad recently.

[PackerFanatic]

Do you live close enough to Lambeu Field to make that unique observation, though?

lol, I do, so there :-P

[PackerFanatic]

Yes, that is true, Brian. He isn't his old self. But honestly, if a bad Favre is still the best player we have, that can't bode well, haha.

[BrianD]

Yes, that is true, Brian. He isn't his old self. But honestly, if a bad Favre is still the best player we have, that can't bode well, haha.

No it doesn't. I think we are looking at some lean years ahead.

[randal7]

I live about 6 hours from Lambeau field...

So do I... are we neighbors?

[JimmyWint]

Were any of you at the Saints game last Sunday? If you ever go to games let me know maybe we could do a little FOF tailgating before the game.

For me the defining moment for his performance the last 4 seasons came in the playoff game against the Vikings where he just underhanded the ball to the Vikings defender in the end zone to avoid a hit. All he had to do was put his head down take a blow and it would have been 17-14 at the half. Instead he flipped the ball jumped out of the way and laughed after the play was over. They went to the half down 17-7 and that was the end of the game.

If He retires FOR SURE after this season I would like to see him stay and close out his career in Green Bay. But if he intends to play another year or two we need to see what we have in the California Kid.

[Mustang]

I live 90 minutes from the Stadium...

Not that that has anything to do with anything. :)

[stevew]

Hmm. actually it looks like I live more like 10 hours from the stadium, so I'm not sure that i have a unique perspective anymore.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I live 7 hours and 56 minutes from the Stadium...

That has something to do with everything. :)

[PackerFanatic]

Hey for the crazy Wisconsin folk ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

Were any of you at the Saints game last Sunday? If you ever go to games let me know maybe we could do a little FOF tailgating before the game.



Would your fake wife be coming along?

[BrianD]

Were any of you at the Saints game last Sunday? If you ever go to games let me know maybe we could do a little FOF tailgating before the game.

For me the defining moment for his performance the last 4 seasons came in the playoff game against the Vikings where he just underhanded the ball to the Vikings defender in the end zone to avoid a hit. All he had to do was put his head down take a blow and it would have been 17-14 at the half. Instead he flipped the ball jumped out of the way and laughed after the play was over. They went to the half down 17-7 and that was the end of the game.

If He retires FOR SURE after this season I would like to see him stay and close out his career in Green Bay. But if he intends to play another year or two we need to see what we have in the California Kid.

I never go to the games. It is fricking cold in Wisconsin during most of football season. I prefer a warm couch and a cold beer (that didn't cost $7.50)

[Honolulu_Blue]

Would your fake wife be coming along?

Rumor has it that she'll be spending the afternoon shopping with Noop's fake girlfriend.

[Mustang]

I never go to the games. It is fricking cold in Wisconsin during most of football season.

I make it to 1 or 2 a year.

I prefer going to the colder ones in November/December. I hate sitting out in the heat.. plus, I don't drink so.. I only buy a soda or two plus some Nachos.

Granted.. even that comes to $20 dollars...

[BrianD]

I make it to 1 or 2 a year.

I prefer going to the colder ones in November/December. I hate sitting out in the heat.. plus, I don't drink so.. I only buy a soda or two plus some Nachos.

Granted.. even that comes to $20 dollars...

Ugh, I'd turn down free tickets in November/December. I hate being cold.

[PackerFanatic]

I just put myself on the season ticket list...I should have done this like 21 years ago, lol...I am number 71646 (or something like that)

Hopefully my kids will get it...

I have been to one game in my life and I really want to go to more...

[PackerFanatic]

Brian, next time you get free tickets for a game, you can give them to me (hell, I would buy them from you)

I am that nuts, yes.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Rumor has it that she'll be spending the afternoon shopping with Noop's fake girlfriend.

LOL!!! I miss her... I pretended to sleep with her behind his back. He never knew!