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sachmo71
09-22-2006, 09:27 AM
This is an interesting blog with some findings about why the top 20% left a sample of companies.

http://dumblittleman.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-top-employees-quit.html



Why Top Employees Quit
It's like clockwork. Every year a portion of our top talent decides it's time to move on. Once those bonus or holiday checks are cashed, the flood gates open and the resignation letters start flowing in.

I work in a large company and this is a problem that we have with our IT and Sales groups in particular. I reached out a to a few peers with other companies (one is an IT exec and one is actually a Group President) and as an exercise, we took a bunch of historical data and started identifying the factors that led to the annual exodus. We focused only the top 20% of the employees from a performance standpoint. It's not that the remaining 80% is unimportant, however, from a productivity, growth, and brainpower perspective, the top 20% of any group is critical. Moreover, these are the employees that are very difficult to replace.

To do this, we reviewed notes from exit interviews, cross referenced annual reviews and ultimately came up with 178 voluntary terminations from people that would have been considered in the top 20%.

To try and keep focused on macro issues, we consolidated the responses and placed them into categories:



Money

Unchallenged

Too Challenged

Dead Company

Watch your Levels (and the BS)


Here is the breakdown of the categories. I know someone is bound to ask why it doesn't add up so... Please keep in mind that this will not add up to 178 because several people insisted on listing 2-3 reasons when the question only asked for 1 reason.


Money: This one was obvious however we found some interesting nuggets of information:The Stats:


Of the 178 files, 83 people listed money as a reason for leaving.

62 listed it as the only reason

In those 62 cases, only 8 were at the top of their pay scale - so there was still room to earn more.


Roughly 46% of the employees that left did so because of money concerns. To be honest, I thought this would be a much higher percentage. I think the most alarming stat to me here is that only 8 out of 83 (9%) people had maxed out their pay potential. Keep in mind that these are top employees that would have received above-average pay increases. My assumption is that they viewed changing companies as the faster path to higher earnings despite the fact that there may have been additional promotions available (which was the case several times).

This may mean a few things:



We are not watching the market rate for these positions closely enough - our "pay potential" might be way too low


Our pay scale doesn't increase at the same rate as the market rates

Star Employees know their value. If you won't compensate them for it, they will look elsewhere in a heartbeat


We are not doing a good enough job at drawing the line towards advancement. If the employee actually sees advancement as a sure possibility as opposed to a pipe dream, it may slow their decision to jump to another company.

Just because a engineer was hired 3 years ago at $70K and currently makes $77K does not mean that is the going rate simply because you built the comp plan that way. If your HR group is not benchmarking what these positions are really making in the world, you better.


Unchallenged: At what point does workplace monotony kill someone's drive? The Stats: 42 records (23%) showed this was their #1 reason for leaving.

One of the forms was completed by an employee that had the exact same job function for 3 years. He is a great example of this point. This employee was in the 20% tier because he had mastered his position and was viewed by many as someone literally doing the work of 2 people. His performance reviews were flawless. BUT - and here is the killer, he didn't feel that way. He thrived on pressure and having a huge workload was natural to him. Although his manager didn't see it, this guy was bored out of his skull and wanted more. Year after year he exceeded every expectation on his review and he was compensated for it but that was it. In this case, it wasn't a matter of compensation, it was strictly responsibility.

One might blame this particular employee for not making his own opportunities and being more aggressive. However, one may also blame the manager for not fully understanding his top employee's goals, motivations, or attitude. It is incredibly important to have a clear understanding on what your star employees think. The best way to understand this is by simply talking to them. I am not saying you have to be best friends but as a manager, you have to know how the employee feels. In fact, it's kind of easy to test for. If there is an employee killing all his goals, try giving him more responsibility. It could be as small as becoming a mentor for a new hire, or asking him to interview someone for you. The goal is to keep a star challenged without crossing the line.



Too Challenged: Toss 'em in and see if they swim.
The Stats: 38 records (21%) showed this was their #1 reason for leaving.

Remember we are only talking about the 20% tier so the people that listed this reason, are not the lazy people of the bunch. They are the ones fed up with bureaucracy, hiring freezes, lack of cooperation, undefined goals, and poor technology. You cannot ask someone to complete 20 tasks and then give them inferior tools and personnel. A lot of employees will struggle through these problems because of their dedication to the company, however, at some point, the fight is no longer sustainable. The employee will either leave, OR , become so unmotivated that they lose their star status and become a normal employee and thus under perform.

You can not always depend on an employee to come to you with concerns. I don't care how often you proclaim you have an open door policy - it simply is not going to happen on a regular basis. To kill two birds with one stone, you could ask key employees for their views on the department, projects, etc. You can also ask for their solutions to the problems they present. Sure, their solutions may not always be implemented but at least they are involved and you know how they feel. When people view themselves as part of a solution, they are less likely to become disgruntled thus delaying the boiling point that forces them to leave.



Dead Company: AKA Death by Boredom
The Stats: 38 records (21%) showed this was their #1 reason for leaving

If the leadership team of your company is constantly drab regardless of the company's growth or the goals achieved, you are in trouble. All employees want money and to be challenged but they don't want to have to self-motivate 100% of the time. For example, I worked for a small company that hadn't created a new product in 10 years. Nothing ever changed and to make matters worse, the executives were all stiffs. I don't believe I ever saw an executive smile and that attitude trickled down the food chain. $30K a year with a company full of stiffs is worse to me than $28,500 with a fun energetic company. You can help take this burden off their plates buy injecting a little upbeat atmosphere. I am not talking about whirley ball, acting like a clown or naming Friday as "Beer in the office day", but your attitude speaks volumes. I will say that I was surprised that this percentage was just as high as those that felt "Too Challenged" from above.



Watch your Levels and the BS
The Stats: 51 people added something random to their primary reason of leaving.

Just because you are an Executive and depend on mid-level managers to do the day-to-day managing, does not mean that you should be ignorant to what is going on. We added this category after seeing the huge number of people having issues that appeared small, but were large enough for them to leave the company. So think of this as the micro managing managers, peer conflict sessions gone awry, crying employees in the bathrooms, process trolls, etc. Let me give you an example:

We saw one case where a department had 2 people leave because they disagreed with the same policy. So on a team of 9, the 2 strongest people left. Doesn't that indicate to management that the policy may be flawed? If I had been the VP or executive, I would have certainly been asking the group manager for a huge explanation. As it stood, the employees left and the policy stayed.

The key here is that your best employees are the best for a reason. When policies are changed, there is no one better than your star employee to consult with. This category actually reminds me of a post that Frank did a few weeks back listing 50 Ways a manager can get employees to quit. Basically, we saw half of these reasons on these forms and they are all things to at least be aware of because managers and team leaders do them all the time.


If you have good ways of keeping your great employees happy and productive, let me know. Better yet, tell me what you are getting from your manager today that would make you think twice before jumping ship.

- Jay

Bee
09-22-2006, 10:13 AM
I'm guessing money is much higher because most people in an exit interview don't want to come off as being greedy so they say they weren't challenged enough or whatever they feel comfortable saying without risking burning bridges. Also, because they are not at the top of their pay scale is meaningless. Typically a person gets a 10-15% pay increase when changing jobs. It doesn't matter if they were in line for a 3% or 6% increase this year at the current job or not, it's still a helluva lot better financially to change jobs.

Warhammer
09-22-2006, 10:25 AM
The company I left 3 years ago, which was the #1/2 company in my industry, I left because of the mix of "Too challenged" and "Watch Your Levels and the BS."

I was a "rising star" at the company. I was told by the HR guy that hired me that I get a promotion in six months to a year. I was the top person for Kaizens, I was the backup contact for engineering approval on the industrial lines (I was in inside sales), and I was involved with strategic planning for the industrial products. Each year I was there, I received the maximum raise allowed. When our VP of Manufacturing for the Americas came through the plant, I was listed as one of three people at the plant that would be going places, the other was the plants controller and Materials Manager.

What happened was they threw too much at me. I was getting 50 phone calls a day, most of which required a call back after spending about 5-10 minutes of research per call. I traced back many of the problems to order entry. The result was they fired our order entry girl and gave all the order entry to inside sales. Not a big problem on the surface, but it was another straw on the pile. Next, we started getting jobs that required drawing approval. Our plant where they did this was 6-8 weeks behind, so they gave this responsibility to me at our plant. I was working from 7:45 to 6:30 each day. Everyone else at the plant was gone by 5:45 or 6:00, the rest of the people in my department left by 5:00.

This in and of itself was not enough to drive me to leave. It was when I would ask for help, be told none was forthcoming, and then get threatened with a write up because stuff was falling through the cracks. When I asked about prioritizing my responsibilities, I was told that all of my stuff was important!

The BS came from the constant sales re-organizations we were going through, we had 3 in one year. There was no advancement path from where I was, so I could not get a promotion to get out of the situation. Rather than get dinged, I decided to leave. On my last day, my boss and the GM both called and told me that they appreciated the fact that up until my last day I was staying late getting my stuff done.

The job I left this for was a nightmare. I was promised a territory with $2 million in sales potential, all the TVA plants, Tennessee Eastman, the territory had done $350,000 in the recent past, etc. What I got was 4 TVA plants, 2 of which had had major issues with the product. That $350,000 number? That was 3 years prior and was a blip due to one huge project. No problem, they told me I would 2-3 years to develop the territory. After 6 months, we had our sales meeting, I had planned for $250,000 of sales, they told me to double it (which the territory had never done before, much less in the reduced size they had given me). So I left.

TroyF
09-22-2006, 10:42 AM
I'm guessing money is much higher because most people in an exit interview don't want to come off as being greedy so they say they weren't challenged enough or whatever they feel comfortable saying without risking burning bridges. Also, because they are not at the top of their pay scale is meaningless. Typically a person gets a 10-15% pay increase when changing jobs. It doesn't matter if they were in line for a 3% or 6% increase this year at the current job or not, it's still a helluva lot better financially to change jobs.

I disagree with much of this. If an employee is happy and enjoy what they are doing, most of the time they don't even look to see what else is out there. If the pay is ridiculously low? Sure. I'm sure most of us at one time or another felt like we should be making more than we were and went after it.

Yet for most of my circle of friends and myself, it hasn't came down to money nearly as often as you would suspect.

Take the situation I'm in now. The money is ok (not great, not horrible) I enjoy my work. I enjoy the office. I get great reviews time after time. And if my job description doesn't change or I don't get promoted in a year, I'm probably gone, even if it would be a little less money to start.

I'm both a little burnt out and bored. I want more responsibility. I want to feel as though I'm moving somewhere.

My boss, who is the greatest guy I've ever worked for, knows this and I know he's working on different things. I'm also up for a promotion that would meet all of the things I'm looking for. If I don't get it, I'm not leaving right away. But a year down the line? I'll likely be a memory. And I can honestly say that has nothing to do with money.

Mustang
09-22-2006, 10:57 AM
I wouldn't leave my job just to make 10-15% extra unless I knew a hell of alot about the internal workings of the company that I was going to. Better to dance with the devil you know than one you don't just because of $...

Bee
09-22-2006, 11:07 AM
I disagree with much of this. If an employee is happy and enjoy what they are doing, most of the time they don't even look to see what else is out there. If the pay is ridiculously low? Sure. I'm sure most of us at one time or another felt like we should be making more than we were and went after it.

Yet for most of my circle of friends and myself, it hasn't came down to money nearly as often as you would suspect.

Take the situation I'm in now. The money is ok (not great, not horrible) I enjoy my work. I enjoy the office. I get great reviews time after time. And if my job description doesn't change or I don't get promoted in a year, I'm probably gone, even if it would be a little less money to start.

I'm both a little burnt out and bored. I want more responsibility. I want to feel as though I'm moving somewhere.

My boss, who is the greatest guy I've ever worked for, knows this and I know he's working on different things. I'm also up for a promotion that would meet all of the things I'm looking for. If I don't get it, I'm not leaving right away. But a year down the line? I'll likely be a memory. And I can honestly say that has nothing to do with money.

There's almost always multiple reasons for changing jobs, but since the blogger seems to want to limit things to one reason, in my experience money is usually at the top of the reasons. There's very few people I've come into contact with who leave a job to take a lower paying job unless they feel they can make more money in the long run.

Seriously, why do you want a promotion? Is it purely because you just want more of a challenge or is it because you want to move up in the company and make more money? Everyone is different, but I think most people are looking to make more money. Sure they want a job that's interesting and challenging as well, but the driving force is money. That's why we all work instead of staying home playing FM all day. :D

WSUCougar
09-22-2006, 11:12 AM
You see Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

sachmo71
09-22-2006, 11:15 AM
There's almost always multiple reasons for changing jobs, but since the blogger seems to want to limit things to one reason, in my experience money is usually at the top of the reasons. There's very few people I've come into contact with who leave a job to take a lower paying job unless they feel they can make more money in the long run.

Seriously, why do you want a promotion? Is it purely because you just want more of a challenge or is it because you want to move up in the company and make more money? Everyone is different, but I think most people are looking to make more money. Sure they want a job that's interesting and challenging as well, but the driving force is money. That's why we all work instead of staying home playing FM all day. :D

I think he explains in the blog that most people put down a combination of these reasons as to why they leave, but he broke them down for clarity.

Money is the only reason I would leave my current job. I came in behind the 8-ball as far as salary, since my last job was WELL below the average for my area, and when I got promoted a couple of months ago, I knew I was still below where some of my peers were hired in as.

We'll see how things shake out, though. I have an interview today for a new position which may take me up some...but I have a feeling I'm going to get screwed. Unfortunately, it's a "foot in the door" job, so I absolutely cannot say no. :(

VPI97
09-22-2006, 11:20 AM
I disagree with much of this. If an employee is happy and enjoy what they are doing, most of the time they don't even look to see what else is out there.
Exactly...when I left my last job, the #1 reason for me looking was that I was unhappy being stuck with the same responsibilities. One of the examples in the inital post nailed my situation...I started with wide ranging job responsibilities and projects, which were then whittled away to managing a single system because I was the only one who understood how it worked. Once that became my primary (and only) responsibility, I detested going to work each day due to the sheer boredom of the job.

That was the reason I started looking...but then again, the reason I actually left was money. It's one thing to get bored and look around, but I don't know if I would have left had I not found something with significantly better compensation.

JediKooter
09-22-2006, 11:27 AM
I think these days also, there's more motivation to leave a company as there just is no longer any loyalty on either side. I think it's vary rare these days to actually find a company that values its employees enough that would make an employee want to stay there for 20 or 30 years. Therefor, making the employee look at the company as nothing more than an ATM machine.

TroyF
09-22-2006, 11:28 AM
There's almost always multiple reasons for changing jobs, but since the blogger seems to want to limit things to one reason, in my experience money is usually at the top of the reasons. There's very few people I've come into contact with who leave a job to take a lower paying job unless they feel they can make more money in the long run.

Seriously, why do you want a promotion? Is it purely because you just want more of a challenge or is it because you want to move up in the company and make more money? Everyone is different, but I think most people are looking to make more money. Sure they want a job that's interesting and challenging as well, but the driving force is money. That's why we all work instead of staying home playing FM all day. :D

As was stated, it's about a combination of factors. Would I like more money? Sure, who the hell wouldn't? But is that going to be the defining factor in me leaving/staying at my current job? No. I make decent money and I have a comfortable lifestyle. Maybe three or four years down the line money would become a priority, but it's at the bottom of the list now. I'm more concerned with being happy with what I do and my job responsibilities.

If money were the driving force, I'm sure I could find a higher paying job right now. I could get back into the technical supervisor type position I used to have and come close to doubling what I make now. The quality of life would suck, but I'd have more money. I've been down the road of leaving one job for another strictly on the basis of money. And was burned badly. I'll never make that mistake again.

Money is ONE priority. It isn't the most important one. It isn't the one that is the driving force for my decisions. If it were, I wouldn't even be where I'm at now.

Bee
09-22-2006, 11:33 AM
Exactly...when I left my last job, the #1 reason for me looking was that I was unhappy being stuck with the same responsibilities. One of the examples in the inital post nailed my situation...I started with wide ranging job responsibilities and projects, which were then whittled away to managing a single system because I was the only one who understood how it worked. Once that became my primary (and only) responsibility, I detested going to work each day due to the sheer boredom of the job.

That was the reason I started looking...but then again, the reason I actually left was money. It's one thing to get bored and look around, but I don't know if I would have left had I not found something with significantly better compensation.

That's pretty much what I was trying to say.

sachmo71
09-22-2006, 11:34 AM
How much does everyone think happiness is worth? $5000? More?

Bee
09-22-2006, 11:42 AM
How much does everyone think happiness is worth? $5000? More?


My Home Theater makes me pretty happy but it cost a lot more than $5K. :D

Mustang
09-22-2006, 11:54 AM
How much does everyone think happiness is worth? $5000? More?

If someone said you have a 50/50 chance of being being happier with a 10% raise or 100% chance of being happier but, with a 10% paycut, I'd take the paycut.

molson
09-22-2006, 11:56 AM
How much does everyone think happiness is worth? $5000? More?

Won't the $5,000 increase your happiness?

More money means more vacations with family, and more money means that you can even take some time off between jobs.