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SirFozzie
09-24-2006, 01:52 AM
PARIS, France (CNN) -- A report that Osama bin Laden is dead has set off a flurry of denials from U.S., French and Pakistani officials, who say the newspaper report citing French intelligence cannot be independently confirmed.

A Saudi intelligence official, however, told CNN on Saturday that the al Qaeda leader is suffering from a waterborne illness. There have been credible reports that the most wanted man in the world is ill, but there is no intelligence indicating he is dead, the source said.

L'Est Republicain, citing a September 21 French foreign intelligence document, reported that Saudi officials had received confirmation that bin Laden died August 23 of typhoid fever in Pakistan.

"We believe this reporting to be unsubstantiated," a U.S. intelligence official said.

Other U.S. intelligence officials concurred, and White House spokesman Blair Jones said, "We have no confirmation of that report."

A senior White House official with access to intelligence reports added that he has made several calls to senior government officials and could not verify the report.

Across the Atlantic, French President Jacques Chirac said the report was "in no way confirmed" and that he was initiating an investigation into who leaked the confidential document to L'Est Republicain.

"I was rather surprised to see that a confidential note from the [General Directorate for External Security] was published, and I have asked the minister of defense to start an investigation immediately and to reach whatever conclusions are necessary," Chirac said after trade talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France.
Friend, family weigh in

Bin Laden's brother-in-law, Jamal Khalifa, who was the al Qaeda leader's best friend when they were university students in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, told CNN that he has heard no report of bin Laden's death. The Saudi-based businessman has been married to bin Laden's sister, Shaikha, since 1986.

Khaled Batarfi, a managing editor at the Saudi newspaper Al Madina and who was close friends with bin Laden when they were teenagers, said he remains in touch with bin Laden's immediate family in Jeddah. Family members said Saturday they had heard nothing to confirm the report, Batarfi told CNN.

Despite the fervent denials, journalist Laid Sammari, who wrote the article, said in a telephone interview that he was confident the classified document was authentic. His article states that Saudi secret service agents on September 4 received reports of bin Laden's death.

Saudi officials plan to make an official announcement after they confirm the burial site for the al Qaeda leader, Sammari said.

In Pakistan, officials said Saturday that they had no confirmation of bin Laden's death. On Friday, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf confirmed President Bush's earlier statement that the hunt for bin Laden is still on.

Al Qaeda was behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States that killed almost 3,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington. The U.S. State Department is offering a $25 million reward for information leading directly to bin Laden's arrest or conviction, according to the FBI.

The Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association are offering an additional $2 million reward.

Bin Laden's most recent public message came June 30, when an audio recording was posted on an Islamic Web site. He stated that Abu Hamza al-Muhajer had replaced Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as leader of al Qaeda in Iraq. Al-Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike earlier in June.

The CIA confirmed the voice on the tape was bin Laden's.

The al Qaeda leader's most recent videotaped statement was aired October 29, 2004, on Al-Jazeera.

Poli
09-24-2006, 02:12 AM
I can only hope it's true.

biological warrior
09-24-2006, 03:06 AM
I hope its true but No Body=No Evidence.

Dutch
09-24-2006, 03:13 AM
On the bright side, even if he isn't dead, I promise that, like Adolf Hitler, he will die eventually, even if there is no body to be found or evidence to prove it.

JPhillips
09-24-2006, 07:28 AM
Good work Dutch! Nice Hitler comparison.

Dutch
09-24-2006, 07:45 AM
Good work Dutch! Nice Hitler comparison.

:rolleyes:

Joe
09-24-2006, 08:10 AM
that sucks. I hate to see anyone die.

QuikSand
09-24-2006, 08:53 AM
On the bright side, even if he isn't dead, I promise that, like Adolf Hitler, he will die eventually, even if there is no body to be found or evidence to prove it.

The death rate among people who lived in the 18th century was a staggering 100%. Can you imagine?

Barkeep49
09-24-2006, 08:58 AM
The death rate among people who lived in the 18th century was a staggering 100%. Can you imagine?
But things are getting better. It's only 99.99% for the 19th Century.

flere-imsaho
09-24-2006, 09:35 AM
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Dutch
09-24-2006, 09:54 AM
The death rate among people who lived in the 18th century was a staggering 100%. Can you imagine?

Fucking smokers.

Dutch
09-24-2006, 09:57 AM
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

The guy lives in his own prison, communicating once a year by audio tape. I would agree you have to look at his importance logically rather than emotionally and I am surprised that President Bush is doing that, to be honest. But logically, I agree that he's made himself rather irrelevant.

Mustang
09-24-2006, 10:02 AM
The guy lives in his own prison, communicating once a year by audio tape. I would agree you have to look at his importance logically rather than emotionally and I am surprised that President Bush is doing that, to be honest. But logically, I agree that he's made himself rather irrelevant.

I don't know what Dick Cheney has to do with this discussion...

sterlingice
09-24-2006, 10:03 AM
Every time I hear a Bin Laden story nowadays, I start thinking of this X-Files scene (from Michael McKean in Dreamland).


Morris: Oh, I love you guys. I really do. I mean, you're the "Lone Gunmen," aren't you? You guys are my heroes. I mean, look at this crap you print.
Byers: We uncover the truth.
Morris: Oh, the truth. Well, see that's what's so great about you monkeys. Not only do you believe this horse pucky that we create you broadcast it as well. I mean, look at this. ("Saddam testing Mandriod Army in Army Iraqi Desert".)
Morris: There is no Saddam Hussein. This guy's name is John Gillnitz. We found him doing dinner theater in Tulsa. Did a mean King and I. Plays good ethnics.
Langly: You're trying to say that Saddam Hussein's a government plant?
Morris: I'm saying I invented the guy. We set him up in '79. He rattles his saber whenever we need a good distraction. Ah... If you boys only knew how many of your stories I dreamed up while sitting on the pot.

SI

Dutch
09-24-2006, 10:17 AM
Good work, SI. Nice X-Files comparison.

:)

Maple Leafs
09-24-2006, 10:20 AM
Good work Dutch! Nice JPhillips comparison.

duckman
09-24-2006, 10:22 AM
He's not dead! I just saw him filling up at the gas station yesterday! Silly Frenchmen! ;)

JeeberD
09-24-2006, 10:23 AM
I'm sure Lance Armstrong believes this report...he believes everything the French media says. ;)

Dutch
09-24-2006, 10:32 AM
Good work Dutch! Nice JPhillips comparison.

:D

Dutch
09-24-2006, 10:36 AM
He's not dead! I just saw him filling up at the gas station yesterday! Silly Frenchmen! ;)

He could have fueled up his bombs a lot cheaper back in the middle east. But don't tell him that, he's kind of an ass.

WSUCougar
09-24-2006, 10:53 AM
What if Bin Laden is the Highlander? There can be only one, you know.

stevew
09-24-2006, 11:20 AM
The french were going to investigate this more, but then they gave up.

sabotai
09-24-2006, 11:30 AM
There can be only none!

M GO BLUE!!!
09-24-2006, 11:33 AM
I heard a rumor that Hitler is still alive and living in a bunker with Osama under the White House. They are actors paid by this nation to send us to war and make money for the companies that make ficticiuos propaganda like the "moon landing" movies and the Dick Cheney robot.

molson
09-24-2006, 11:55 AM
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Invading a relatively moderate soverign nation to catch one lunatic who's influence is merely "spirtual" wouldn't be a priority for me either.

Greyroofoo
09-24-2006, 12:14 PM
I don't think its close enough to the election yet for Bin Laden's death to be confirmed

JPhillips
09-24-2006, 04:33 PM
Dutch: In some sense I find it admirable how you're able to incorporate wingnut spin into every discussion. You should start a blog as I bet you could get pretty good advertising income from Regnery Press and Club for Growth.

You should put your talent to work.

Dutch
09-24-2006, 05:03 PM
Dutch: In some sense I find it admirable how you're able to incorporate wingnut spin into every discussion. You should start a blog as I bet you could get pretty good advertising income from Regnery Press and Club for Growth.

You should put your talent to work.

And what should I find admirable about you're take? Because frankly, I don't see you in this thread for any other reason than to bitch about me. What are you? Some kind of stalker? Ya freak. :)

Maple Leafs
09-24-2006, 05:26 PM
Invading a relatively moderate soverign nation to catch one lunatic who's influence is merely "spirtual" wouldn't be a priority for me either.
So wait, you think the war in Afghanistan was a bad idea?

molson
09-24-2006, 07:54 PM
So wait, you think the war in Afghanistan was a bad idea?

I wrote once sentence and you missed two of the words. The Taliban was not moderate and their soverignty was disputed.

flere-imsaho
09-25-2006, 08:58 AM
Invading a relatively moderate soverign nation to catch one lunatic who's influence is merely "spirtual" wouldn't be a priority for me either.

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

flere-imsaho
09-25-2006, 09:01 AM
The guy lives in his own prison, communicating once a year by audio tape.

Alternatively (and much more likely), he lives in relative comfort amongst the various tribes on the Pakistani-Afghani border, protected by local warlords, in touch with a resurgent Taliban, and safe from a central administration led by an unelected leader who fears more attacks on his life from Islamic militants.

dime
09-25-2006, 09:15 AM
this "leaked report" is probably a ruse hoping to flush out bin laden (if he is still alive).

at the moment, whoever is in charge of al-qaeda is probably scrambling to come up with some sort of new tape (if he's still alive) or a spin designed to cast bin laden as a martyr.

I'm not sure this is a good idea really; he could be much more powerful and compelling as a mythical martyr than as the frail man he really was.

st.cronin
09-25-2006, 09:22 AM
Yes, he deserves to die, and I hope he burns in hell.

Butter
09-25-2006, 09:26 AM
I don't think its close enough to the election yet for Bin Laden's death to be confirmed

Winner.

cody8200
09-25-2006, 10:56 PM
The french were going to investigate this more, but then they gave up.

Nice one, made me laugh :)

RendeR
09-25-2006, 11:05 PM
How fucking hard is it to find a 6 foot 6 inch Saudi Arabian man who need fairly regular dialysis???



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