Is it time to turn off post counts for the whole forum?

[Kodos]

It seems like they are actually a concern for some folks. They don't matter at all to me, except for post count joke opportunities. I think it'd be better if that stat disappeared entirely just to eliminate any heartache in the post count debate.

[Butter]

Was this thread spurned by some recent incident I missed?

[cthomer5000]

I'm agree

[Blade6119]

Was this thread spurned by some recent incident I missed?

WW threads were moved to a seperate forum and all posts past and future in them no longer count toward user post counts.

[vex]

Wait..

[Kodos]

I'm agree

Here's a post that counts. We should have an official post-counter whose job it is to decide if a post counts or not. :p

[vex]

So do posts in HT forum count?

[gottimd]

.

[Ben E Lou]

I just voted. :p

[Chief Rum]

I voted the first option, because what I would like wasn't quite represented there (it was closest).

I would suggest (if this is possible) that posts be counted up to 1,000, so we can see who the new posters are, but then when it hits 1,000, it disappears or is replaced by MAX or something like that. Maybe have a title change at that point, too (Grizzled Vet, I guess).

[Chief Rum]

Here's a post that counts. We should have an official post-counter whose job it is to decide if a post counts or not. :p


I nominate Galt. He was so happy doing the Quote of the Moment.

[stevew]

I just voted. :p

lol.

One vote for each post blade lost.

[st.cronin]

I am secretly hoping that Kodos deletes this thread someday.

[gottimd]

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt1 width="50%">Keep them, but only count mainstream forums. </TD><TD class=alt2 width="50%">http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/styles/yellow/polls//bar4-l.gifhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/styles/yellow/polls//bar4.gifhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/styles/yellow/polls//bar4-r.gif </TD><TD class=alt1 title=Votes align=middle>3432</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap align=right>99.80%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Alot of people voting apparently and its only been up for a few minutes!

[dervack]

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Alot of people voting apparently and its only been up for a few minutes!
Skydog voted, many, many times.

[Draft Dodger]

where's the who fucking cares option?

[timmynausea]

Only Jeeber's posts should be counted. His records will never be broken unless steroids and other illegal supplements become a significant factor in the distant future.

[digamma]

Sportsdigs.com had this poll weeks ago.

[cthomer5000]

what is the argument in favor of having post counts?

[JS19]

where's the who fucking cares option?

I agree. I really am curious though, who does care about post counts?

[gottimd]

what is the argument in favor of having post counts?

They are stupendous!

[Kodos]

I just voted. :p

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it was the final option. :D

[SirFozzie]

it's a measurement of how much of a fucking elitist you are

[Kodos]

where's the who fucking cares option?

I think that is option 1.

[VPI97]

what is the argument in favor of having post counts?
So we know when to send the strippers.

[Kodos]

Keep them, but only count mainstream forums.


Gotta say I am surprised at how well this option is doing.

[scooper]

I once tried counting posts, but I couldn't keep up with you people. Please be considerate and type slower.

[vex]

Keep them, but only count mainstream forums.


Gotta say I am surprised at how well this option is doing.


It's probably still a tainted result.

[digamma]

All posts north of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as one post. All posts south of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as 3/5* of a post.

*Eschewing FOF fractional humor for a lame historical reference.

[VPI97]

I think that post counts shouldn't be shown, but then again, the bitching about how "people lost posts!!!1!1!" due to the WW thing is fairly humorous.

[VPI97]

All posts north of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as one post. All posts south of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as 3/5* of a post.

*Eschewing FOF fractional humor for a lame historical reference.

I lolled.

[Subby]

not only should we keep post counts, but we just put the forum member #s back

Signed,

FOFC Member #5

[VPI97]

not only should we keep post counts, but we just put the forum member #s back

Signed,

FOFC Member #5
I voted that you need to be SuperGay again.

[JeeberD]

Subby's member has a tiny number.

[Kodos]

These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on my order of arrival.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Sportsdigs.com had this poll weeks ago.

All posts north of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as one post. All posts south of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as 3/5* of a post.

*Eschewing FOF fractional humor for a lame historical reference.

You, sir, are on a roll.

[WVUFAN]

I think that post counts shouldn't be shown, but then again, the bitching about how "people lost posts!!!1!1!" due to the WW thing is fairly humorous.

Why is is humorous?

[JeeberD]

Subby's member has a tiny number.

Dammit, I should have gone with, "Subby has a tiny member number." :mad:

[Subby]

You were right originally...my member is #1! :D

[Subby]

AND THATS RIGHT BITCH - MY DICK JOKES COUNT MORE THAN YOUR STUPID WW POSTS!!!11

HAHHAHAHA. Suck it, Fringesters.

[Kodos]

Why is is humorous?


I think a lot of us couldn't care less about anybody's post count and have a hard time understanding why it does seem to matter to others.

[st.cronin]

AND THATS RIGHT BITCH - MY DICK JOKES COUNT MORE THAN YOUR STUPID WW POSTS!!!11

HAHHAHAHA. Suck it, Fringesters.

I have more posts than you.

[Ryan S]

not only should we keep post counts, but we just put the forum member #s back

I agree.

Signed,

FOFC Member #1

[Subby]

I have more posts than you.not for long, SkyDog is making a "lame Tom Brady posts" forum and that's gonna fuck you REAL good.

:D

[Hurst2112]

Signed,

FOFC Member #1

That's like being proud to be chairman of the National Geek/Dork Club.

[WSUCougar]

Don't really care.

But if you decide to eliminate them, at least wait until I hit 10,000...so I do care after all!

[hoosierdude]

How about taking off the default subscribe option to every post we make? THAT sucks.

If I want to subscribe, I will click it... don't take that option from me. I likes me freedom.

Seriously... change it. :)

[stevew]

How about taking off the default subscribe option to every post we make? THAT sucks.

If I want to subscribe, I will click it... don't take that option from me. I likes me freedom.

Seriously... change it. :)

That's gotta be your own personal setting, cause I don't have that.

[JeeberD]

Check your user options, TC...

[stevew]

That's gotta be your own personal setting, cause I don't have that.
Yeah, I just checked in the Control Panel and there was an option in there for thread subscription.

[Ksyrup]

I rarely notice post counts, but I like them when I see an unfamiliar name and am trying to assess how active they have been on the forum. I think it helps, to a limited degree, in trying to assess credibility in certain circumstances. It may also help newbies get a sense for who the most frequent posters are around here, to the extent they care.

I guess it helps to give some context to the FOFC world is what I'm saying.
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[Coffee Warlord]

But EVERYONE will lose posts then. Good god.

[Kodos]

But EVERYONE will lose posts then. Good god.

Not the folks who registered by never posted.

[Fouts]

Not the folks who registered by never posted.

What about those that registered, never posted, but voted in the HorN polls? ;)

[WSUCougar]

I guess it helps to give some context to the FOFC world is what I'm saying.
I concur.

[heybrad]

I have been on this board a long time and I don't think I have a very high post count.

Just felt like pointing that out.

[DanGarion]

See the problem I see is that 1/7 of the posts on this board are Werewolf posts. That's probably more then there are FOFC posts. Might as well change the name of the board to WWC.

[stevew]

I have been on this board a long time and I don't think I have a very high post count.

Just felt like pointing that out.

Yeah, but you have a custom user title, and that makes you >>>>>>> than everyone without one :)

[JonInMiddleGA]

I concur.

And I concur with your concurrence.

[DanGarion]

And I concur with your concurrence.
Hell that right there closes the argument.

[BrianD]

I just voted. :p

Who pissed in your Corn Flakes this morning?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yeah, but you have a custom user title, and that makes you >>>>>>> than everyone without one :)

Amen to that!

[WSUCougar]

But do you obsess over my obsession?

[stevew]

Amen to that!

Honolulu Blue is cooler than you.

[WSUCougar]

But there is only one Hockey Boy.

[Chief Rum]

All posts north of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as one post. All posts south of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as 3/5* of a post.

*Eschewing FOF fractional humor for a lame historical reference.

Yeah, I thought that was clever, actually. ;)

[Schmidty]

I think it's funny that people care about getting rid of post-counts. Are they hurting anything? No.

I don't care if we do get rid of them, but if we do, will we still have ascending titles? It took me 5 fucking years to be grizzled, and I'll be fucking damned if I'm giving that stupid, pathetic satisfaction up.

[Schmidty]

Oh. I guess I'm not Grizzled anymore. Oh well, whatever.

[Blade6119]

Oh. I guess I'm not Grizzled anymore. Oh well, whatever.

ya, you lost it with the loss of your WW posts

[Schmidty]

ya, you lost it with the loss of your WW posts

I don't really care that much. I just think there's a double standard. Guys like Jeeber can post inane 1 word posts that add nothing either, and it's ok. That's stupid.

[Subby]

ya, you lost it with the loss of your WW postsGO BACK TO YOUR FORUM, FOREIGNER!

[Schmidty]

GO BACK TO YOUR FORUM, FOREIGNER!

Haha, yeah!!

[Kodos]

I think it's funny that people care about getting rid of post-counts. Are they hurting anything? No.



I'd say they are hurting things, because people are getting pissed off about post count issues. If they cause problems, why not just drop them and get rid of a headache?

[Schmidty]

I'd say they are hurting things, because people are getting pissed off about post count issues. If they cause problems, why not just drop them and get rid of a headache?

Word.

[WSUCougar]

Perhaps a poll asking people why they are getting pissed off about post count issues would be in order.

[Subby]

Yeah but its funny when people get pissed about post count issues, so I say we keep them (kind of the argument I use for letting Izlude post here) :D

[Schmidty]

Perhaps a poll asking people why they are getting pissed off about post count issues would be in order.

I agree.

[Izulde]

Yeah but its funny when people get pissed about post count issues, so I say we keep them (kind of the argument I use for letting Izlude post here) :D

Do I amuse you?

Do I look like a fucking clown to you?!

Dance for me!

*BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM*

I said dance!

*BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM*

[ISiddiqui]

Perhaps a poll asking people why they are getting pissed off about post count issues would be in order.

Would the posts in that thread count towards post count? ;)

[Subby]

Do I look like I am fucking a clown to you?!I don't know, but congrats on losing your virginity?

[DanGarion]

PEOPLE LOST POSTS!!!!!!1!1

[Anthony]

I don't really care that much. I just think there's a double standard. Guys like Jeeber can post inane 1 word posts that add nothing either, and it's ok. That's stupid.

i say Jeeber's post should not count. then we'd see how much he really wants to post.

WW players are nerds, straight up and down son.

[Schmidty]

WW players are nerds, straight up and down son.

You try too hard.

[Anthony]

You try too hard.

you ain't gonna breaka my stride...go twist someone else's tits. today is a happy day for me, a small faction of nerds were cast off away from my viewing area. happy day indeed!

[Schmidty]

you ain't gonna breaka my stride...go twist someone else's tits. today is a happy day for me, a small faction of nerds were cast off away from my viewing area. happy day indeed!

Cool.

[JeeberD]

Yeah, I originally came to FOFC to unseat Quik as the post count leader. I didn't think anyone would ever uncover my nefarious plot!

[Chief Rum]

you ain't gonna breaka my stride...go twist someone else's tits. today is a happy day for me, a small faction of nerds were cast off away from my viewing area. happy day indeed!

Mr. Attention, your Whore is on Line 1.

[Schmidty]

Yeah, I originally came to FOFC to unseat Quik as the post count leader. I didn't think anyone would ever uncover my nefarious plot!

I like you.

[Desnudo]

Every red-blooded American likes post counts.

[WVUFAN]

you ain't gonna breaka my stride...go twist someone else's tits. today is a happy day for me, a small faction of nerds were cast off away from my viewing area. happy day indeed!

Yeah, they're so much more nerdy than the Hot or Not people. Whatever, troll.

Congrats, you're the first person on my Ignore List.

[Anthony]

Mr. Attention, your Whore is on Line 1.

so you want to call me an attention whore, and not the guy who has 16K MORE posts than me? that's fantastic! we're talking about a guy who rushed to be a mod over at sportsdigs, then when he realized that place was deader than the county morgue quickly abandoned it and resumed posturbating here.

[Schmidty]

Yeah, they're so much more nerdy than the Hot or Not people. Whatever, troll.

Congrats, you're the first person on my Ignore List.

Don't tell people that they're on your ignore list, otherwise you look like a tool. Not saying you are lame, but it sounds kinda sad to announce it.

[Subby]

Yeah, they're so much more nerdy than the Hot or Not people. Whatever, troll.Someone hit a nerve. :D

[DanGarion]

Why don't we move all the WW post to another message board. Then they can still get their post counts.

[Anthony]

Congrats, you're the first person on my Ignore List.

i don't believe you. in fact, i'm going to say the following and dare you not respond in order to keep up your "you're on my ignore list" rouse:

YO MOMMA.

[Schmidty]

Why don't we move all the WW post to another message board. Then they can still get their post counts.

You're being a dick Dan.

[Anthony]

Why don't we move all the WW post to another message board. Then they can still get their post counts.


i agree.

[Logan]

All posts north of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as one post. All posts south of "Non-FOF Discussion" count as 3/5* of a post.

*Eschewing FOF fractional humor for a lame historical reference.

This reminds me of what was easily the most racist joke I ever made in my life.

And yes, I said it in front of my black friend, and he laughed his ass off.

[Ben E Lou]

See the problem I see is that 1/7 of the posts on this board are Werewolf postsIn the words of my boyhood friend and idol, Weyman C. Wannamaker, Jr., a Great American:
"Do whut???"

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And, of course, that doesn't count a few more hundred thousand lost posts from the UBB board and from The Sideline.

[WVUFAN]

Don't tell people that they're on your ignore list, otherwise you look like a tool. Not saying you are lame, but it sounds kinda sad to announce it.

That's cool. First time putting someone on it, so it's new territory for me. he just really pissed me off, and on a regular basis with his trollish behavior.

I'm cool with people not liking WW threads, and I myself have only played in a total of 2 games (2 1/2, really) including the current one, but when you're posting just to be a complete and total dick, like Hell Atlantic seems to do with EVERY SINGLE post, it just ticks me off that he's always gonna be safe no matter what he does and others who have been much less of a dick than he is have been banned or ostrasized.

In any case, I'll take your suggestion to heart, Schmidty.

[Schmidty]

In the words of my boyhood friend and idol, Weyman C. Wannamaker, Jr., a Great American:
"Do whut???"

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And, of course, that doesn't count a few more hundred thousand lost posts from the UBB board and from The Sideline.

I don't care about post counts at all, but I think you are unfairly singling out a group of people who did nothing at all that hurt this board, while at the same time sitting back and doing nothing about blatant post-whores on this board. Very unfair, and misguided in my opinion.

[Alan T]

People troll others because their form of entertainment is getting under your skin.

Just ignore people who are bugging you and they will get bored with you and move on soon enough.

Sometimes this place feels like I'm watching my children's school class :)

[Fouts]

This won't end well.

[Chief Rum]

so you want to call me an attention whore, and not the guy who has 16K MORE posts than me? that's fantastic! we're talking about a guy who rushed to be a mod over at sportsdigs, then when he realized that place was deader than the county morgue quickly abandoned it and resumed posturbating here.

My lack of comment on anyone else is not indicative of an opinion on them one way or another. My post was strictly aimed at you, AW.

[WVUFAN]

This won't end well.

No, it won't. There seems to be a small group of people who for whatever reason don't like to see the word "Werewolf" in a post, are incapable of doing what the majority do and either participate or ignore the threads, and want to make them in essence second class citizens.

Nope, it won't end well.

[Anthony]

That's cool. First time putting someone on it, so it's new territory for me. he just really pissed me off, and on a regular basis with his trollish behavior.

I'm cool with people not liking WW threads, and I myself have only played in a total of 2 games (2 1/2, really) including the current one, but when you're posting just to be a complete and total dick, like Hell Atlantic seems to do with EVERY SINGLE post, it just ticks me off that he's always gonna be safe no matter what he does and others who have been much less of a dick than he is have been banned or ostrasized.

In any case, I'll take your suggestion to heart, Schmidty.


i totally agree with you. i am a dick. i post just to be a dick with every single post indeed. it's just a cry for help. i feel insecure. you WW guys deserve better, here and in life. i just feel sad you won't see this sincere and heartfelt post since you have me on ignore. :(

somebody hold me and tell me everythings gonna be all right....

[Fouts]

No, it won't. There seems to be a small group of people who for whatever reason don't like to see the word "Werewolf" in a post, are incapable of doing what the majority do and either participate or ignore the threads, and want to make them in essence second class citizens.

Nope, it won't end well.

I think its more about post count envy than having a werewolf thread on the board. Those that complained know what I'm talking about.

[DanGarion]

You're being a dick Dan.

No, I'm just trying to be reasonable. Seemed like the WW players weren't happy, so showing them it's better then it could have been. :) :D

[WVUFAN]

I think its more about post count envy than having a werewolf thread on the board. Those that complained know what I'm talking about.

Then either remove post counts, or understand that someone playing in a WW "contributes" to the board just as much as someone posting in the Maximum Football thread or a Hot or Not thread, or any number of the thousands of non-FOF related discussions here. Those people deserve their post counts, and so does people who play in WW games.

In my mind, there's no difference between them. They should count just the same as any other kind of non-FOF discussions.

[DanGarion]

In the words of my boyhood friend and idol, Weyman C. Wannamaker, Jr., a Great American:
"Do whut???"

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And, of course, that doesn't count a few more hundred thousand lost posts from the UBB board and from The Sideline.

Yeah but look at the active posts. Not the archive.

[Blade6119]

Yeah but look at the active posts. Not the archive.

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

[ice4277]

somebody hold me and tell me everythings gonna be all right....

I'll be over at 8:30, Sugartits.

[DanGarion]

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Nevermind.

[sabotai]

I wish I could say this topic shows how pathetic I think some people can be, but I'm sure by next week, there'll be a dozen or so more threads that will trump even this.


Kirby Puckett.....please!

[VPI97]

Why is is humorous?
Because people who are concerned about post counts to the point that they start complaining are nerds and deserve to be ridiculed.

[WVUFAN]

Because people who are concerned about post counts to the point that they start complaining are nerds and deserve to be ridiculed.

Jesus, you don't get it. This has NOTHING to do with post counts. It's about how a core group of people who chose to play a game as well as contribute in other threads are treated by the admin of the board like second-class citizens.

It's not post counts that I'm upset over. It's the attitude.

[VPI97]

Jesus, you don't get it. This has NOTHING to do with post counts. It's about how a core group of people who chose to play a game as well as contribute in other threads are treated by the admin of the board like second-class citizens.

It's not post counts that I'm upset over. It's the attitude.

Apparently you don't get it, since your comment was in response to my post that dealt specifically with the post count issue. So yeah, my comment has EVERYTHING to do with post counts.

[WVUFAN]

Apparently you don't get it, since your comment was in response to my post that dealt specifically with the post count issue. So yeah, my comment has EVERYTHING to do with post counts.

It's a symptom of the attitude of a small group of people here. Saldana said it best in another thread ... the same people who bitched to Skydog about WW threads because of elevated post counts are the same ones saying they don't matter.

Note I'm not pointing my finger at you, VPI, so don't take it that way, it's a general statement. The post counts to me doesn't matter in as much as they're a symptom of the overall problem.

1. Move the WW posts to another thread, because they don't belong.
2. Remove the post counts for those posts, even though they should count just as much as the other useless threads on the board.
3. Hope that the WW players go away, because they're not worthy to hang with the "cool kids" in the general discussions.

That's classless.

[Schmidty]

Anyway, SD isn't likely to change his mind. People have two options:

1) Continue to complain and subsequently look like a whiney vagina to the masses.

2) Nut it up and make the best of things.

I don't like it, but I'm picking option 2.

[Buccaneer]

Not only should we turn off post counts but can we PLEASE make a separate political forum?

[saldana]

Because people who are concerned about post counts to the point that they start complaining are nerds and deserve to be ridiculed.

ok, then why arent the people that complained to skydog about the WW players having higher postcounts being ridiculed

(note, i am not calling anyone anything, just asking VPI to defend his insult)

[Schmidty]

Not only should we turn off post counts but can we PLEASE make a separate political forum?

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VPI97]

It's a symptom of the attitude of a small group of people here. Saldana said it best in another thread ... the same people who bitched to Skydog about WW threads because of elevated post counts are the same ones saying they don't matter.

Note I'm not pointing my finger at you, VPI, so don't take it that way, it's a general statement. The post counts to me doesn't matter in as much as they're a symptom of the overall problem.

1. Move the WW posts to another thread, because they don't belong.
2. Remove the post counts for those posts, even though they should count just as much as the other useless threads on the board.
3. Hope that the WW players go away, because they're not worthy to hang with the "cool kids" in the general discussions.

That's classless.

I just don't understand the negative attitude WW player are taking...if I were involved with something popular enough to get it's own forum, I'd consider it a award...or a mark that the game has "made it". After all, players now have a place to post strategy, discussions, new ideas, etc without having posts get lost i the shuffle of General Discussion. I mean, FOF MP league all have their own boards and they're more relevant to FOF than 95% of the posts across FOFC. Should we try and move all of the discussion for all of the leagues into this General Discussion forum?

ok, then why arent the people that complained to skydog about the WW players having higher postcounts being ridiculed
I'm pretty sure that's what I was doing. People complaining about post counts in general are people that should be laughed at.

Edit - Also, as a show of solidarity towards the anti-post count movement, I've reset my post counter to zero. I'm a n00b now.

[Blade6119]

I just don't understand the negative attitude WW player are taking...if I were involved with something popular enough to get it's own forum, I'd consider it a award...or a mark that the game has "made it". After all, players now have a place to post strategy, discussions, new ideas, etc without having posts get lost i the shuffle of General Discussion. I mean, FOF MP league all have their own boards and they're more relevant to FOF than 95% of the posts across FOFC. Should we try and move all of the discussion for all of the leagues into this General Discussion forum?

The point is more that our posts no longer count, and by implication it means that WW doesnt warrant the same level of respect as all of the outlandish crazy things that happen here. Im happy with the new forum, but the decision by skydog to make all WW posts, past and future, meaningless is my and most everyone else's issue. He basically said go play in the corner and dont bother us anymore.

[Schmidty]

Edit - Also, as a show of solidarity towards the anti-post count movement, I've reset my post counter to zero. I'm a n00b now.

Not everyone should be forced to follow your lead, but good for you.

[Buccaneer]

Can I have my post count set to 0 please?

[Butter]

Some of you people sure have a lot of boring and stupid shit to complain about.

[VPI97]

Can I have my post count set to 0 please?
I'm only going to do it to myself since I really didn't really ask SD for approval on it, so I'm not touching anyone else's unless he says it's okay. I don't wanna get yelled at by the big, scary black man.

[Schmidty]

Can I have my post count set to 0 please?

Can I have mine set to NEGATIVE 1,000,505,938 please?\


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH, take that bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Antmeister]

There has got to be another option.

Why can't we treat the post count as character in a MMORPG? Think about it. You start out with only a New Thread Button and with each level, you get more wonderful posting options and moderating powers:

500 posts - Change forum color scheme
1000 posts - Signature
2000 posts - Edit and Delete button
3000 posts - Quick Reply button
4000 posts - Standard Reply button
5000 posts - Quote button
6000 posts - Multi quote button
7000 posts - Smilies
8000 posts - Advanced HTML features
9000 posts - Private Messages
10000 posts - Select your own user title
>10000 posts - Various moderating powers to smite all they dislike.

But it wont be easy. There can be various things to drop or improve your post count.

Voting on the losing side of the hot or not threads (-500 posts)
Voting on the winning side of the Hot or Not threads (+150 posts)
Habitual threadjacking (-500 to +500 as determined by the Dark Council as some threadjacking is entertaining while others are not.)
Being the first one to call out, "This will not end well" in a rapidly declining thread (+1000 posts)
Cheating in the FastFL again (-5000 posts)
Joining the FastFL (-2500 posts)
Losing in the FastFL while you are cheating (-10000 posts)
Pinging Skydog (-500 to +500 points, depends on the entertainment value).

Etc. .....

Everyone must look at the big picture here. That way, jbmagic would have a small chance of getting his buttons back. :D

[sachmo71]

People troll others because their form of entertainment is getting under your skin.

Just ignore people who are bugging you and they will get bored with you and move on soon enough.

Sometimes this place feels like I'm watching my children's school class :)

This is true. At least it worked for me.

[Lorena]

Not only should we turn off post counts but can we PLEASE make a separate political forum?

No shit, there are as many, if not more, of these POL threads than there are WW threads.

If you don't like the damn WW threads, DON'T FUCKING CLICK ON THEM!! Or freaking skip them. I have no interest in looking in political threads and I stay out of them. What the hell's the big deal with WW threads that they need their own section?

I second this. If WW threads have their own space, then do it for these as well.

[Joe]

we need a hot or not forum too

[Logan]

No shit, there are as many, if not more, of these POL threads than there are WW threads.

If you don't like the damn WW threads, DON'T FUCKING CLICK ON THEM!! Or freaking skip them. I have no interest in looking in political threads and I stay out of them. What the hell's the big deal with WW threads that they need their own section?

I second this. If WW threads have their own space, then do it for these as well.

I think someone said this in the thread on the WW board: Cluttering up the GD board is not the reason those threads were moved. Skydog doesn't think those posts should "count" in people's "status." It has nothing to do with the two threads that would be on the board (I'm basing that on what others have said...I honestly never noticed them), it has to do with the hundreds (thousands?) of posts in them. It is Skydog's opinion, as owner and operator of this board, that those shouldn't count. Therefore what he wants, he gets.

It's time to crap or get off the proverbial pot.

That said...I think getting rid of post counts is a good idea, and it really has nothing to do with what's gone on today.

[Buccaneer]

After reading the thread in the WW forum, I am struck by the point about garbage threads here in GD (and counting for something if that's important). I think the most stupidest and embarassing threads are shit like the drunk guy, molester, maximum-football and anything jb had started ;) . That we allow those in the GD (and contribute to post counts) but not a sensible game like WW just doesn't make sense.

I may pulling this out of my ass again, but I fear the heavy hand when a new FOF/TCY is announced/released. Maybe they can create a separate FOF/TCY forum and leave GD for discussing a whole variety of things (except for drunk guys and molesters :) ).

[Anthony]

That said...I think getting rid of post counts is a good idea, and it really has nothing to do with what's gone on today.

so says the guy with only 2200 posts to lose.

[JeeberD]

Maybe they can create a separate FOF/TCY forum...

Isn't that the Strategy Forum, basically?

One of the things I love about this place is that GD is for just about everything and that people aren't getting chastized for putting stuff in the wrong forum.

[Subby]

I don't care about post counts at all, but I think you are unfairly singling out a group of people who did nothing at all that hurt this board, while at the same time sitting back and doing nothing about blatant post-whores on this board. Very unfair, and misguided in my opinion.You just summed up, better than anyone ever could, why this board can be so great sometimes...

I don't understand why folks don't get that, but I guess if everyone did then it would cease to work so well...

[Raiders Army]

There has got to be another option.

Why can't we treat the post count as character in a MMORPG? Think about it. You start out with only a New Thread Button and with each level, you get more wonderful posting options and moderating powers:

500 posts - Change forum color scheme
1000 posts - Signature
2000 posts - Edit and Delete button
3000 posts - Quick Reply button
4000 posts - Standard Reply button
5000 posts - Quote button
6000 posts - Multi quote button
7000 posts - Smilies
8000 posts - Advanced HTML features
9000 posts - Private Messages
10000 posts - Select your own user title
>10000 posts - Various moderating powers to smite all they dislike.

But it wont be easy. There can be various things to drop or improve your post count.

Voting on the losing side of the hot or not threads (-500 posts)
Voting on the winning side of the Hot or Not threads (+150 posts)
Habitual threadjacking (-500 to +500 as determined by the Dark Council as some threadjacking is entertaining while others are not.)
Being the first one to call out, "This will not end well" in a rapidly declining thread (+1000 posts)
Cheating in the FastFL again (-5000 posts)
Joining the FastFL (-2500 posts)
Losing in the FastFL while you are cheating (-10000 posts)
Pinging Skydog (-500 to +500 points, depends on the entertainment value).

Etc. .....

Everyone must look at the big picture here. That way, jbmagic would have a small chance of getting his buttons back. :D

I'm all for this. Great idea!

[Raiders Army]

After reading the thread in the WW forum, I am struck by the point about garbage threads here in GD (and counting for something if that's important). I think the most stupidest and embarassing threads are shit like the drunk guy, molester, maximum-football and anything jb had started ;) . That we allow those in the GD (and contribute to post counts) but not a sensible game like WW just doesn't make sense.

I may pulling this out of my ass again, but I fear the heavy hand when a new FOF/TCY is announced/released. Maybe they can create a separate FOF/TCY forum and leave GD for discussing a whole variety of things (except for drunk guys and molesters :) ).

Hey, I started that thread and it's almost the one year anniversary! :mad:
Old people can't appreciate drunkeness! ;)

[Izulde]

Post counts are a measure of achievement.

Those who preach absolutist egalitarianism fail to recognize that not everyone is created equal.

*adjusts monocle*

[Raiders Army]

Hey, and none of the posts in this thread should count because there is no trout option.

[Logan]

so says the guy with only 2200 posts to lose.


That's 2218 posts, dick.

[Daimyo]

Post counts are stupid and should be done away with. They have zero correlation to "worth." I have no doubt the overall quality of the board would increase if they were not displayed.

[Logan]

Post counts are stupid and should be done away with. They have zero correlation to "worth." I have no doubt the overall quality of the board would increase if they were not displayed.

Since I have more posts than you, I'm declaring your opinion worthless.

[Schmidty]

Post counts are stupid and should be done away with. They have zero correlation to "worth." I have no doubt the overall quality of the board would increase if they were not displayed.

I agree with the "worth" part, but I disagree about the "quality" part.

[Buccaneer]

I'm only going to do it to myself since I really didn't really ask SD for approval on it, so I'm not touching anyone else's unless he says it's okay. I don't wanna get yelled at by the big, scary black man.

Doesn't matter, you have the mod privilege to do it. What's big daddy going to do, add back the post counts?

[Schmidty]

As I said in the WW forum:

It doesn't matter.

Man is fallible, and Skydog is a man without opposition. Even if he makes a mistake, complaining does zero good. He is God.

This issue is over. Sad, but true.

[rexallllsc]

Why do people care about their post counts?

[Schmidty]

Why do people care about their post counts?

You are so cool. That hasn't been said 50 times today already.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. This issue is over, and this thread might as well be closed.

[Buccaneer]

Why do people care about their post counts?

Because the HNIC uses that, in part, to judge your worth, esp. if you have contributed to threads on drunks, m-f and other stuff. You probably also don't realize that Atlanta-area football posts count double.

[DaddyTorgo]

Because the HNIC uses that, in part, to judge your worth, esp. if you have contributed to threads on drunks, m-f and other stuff. You probably also don't realize that Atlanta-area football posts count double.

and any post wherein you use the word "Tucker" counts x3

[Anthony]

i bet SkyDog sounds like Chris Tucker.

jbmagic: do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?
SD: ain't no one understand the words that are coming out of your mouth!

[Raiders Army]

Dude stop slamming the drunk thread or I swear I'm going to delete it!

[hoosierdude]

That's gotta be your own personal setting, cause I don't have that.

Check your user options, TC...

Yeah, I just checked in the Control Panel and there was an option in there for thread subscription.

Sorry guys, but is fixed for no subs for threads in my CP, and it still does it, any ideas?


It is however clicked in every post thread I write a reply to. So I could use some help from a mod or admin please :)

[Ben E Lou]

In the words of my boyhood friend and idol, Weyman C. Wannamaker, Jr., a Great American::D

[Fouts]

:D

+1

[JeeberD]

You're listed as "No subscription" in the mod controls. Maybe you should switch it to "No e-mail notification" and see if that helps?

[sachmo71]

You're listed as "No subscription" in the mod controls. Maybe you should switch it to "No e-mail notification" and see if that helps?

Probably a busted cookie. If it's white chocolate macadamia nut, I might know who did it.

[SackAttack]

If this is seriously an issue, the moderators have way, way too much time on their hands, and aren't remotely needed in that quantity.

[Subby]

Whatever you do, don't forget to reset the hattrick forum. Talk about thousands of useless mongrel post-inflated nobodies.

It's getting so I don't know *who* to respect around here anymore.

[stevew]

:) You are so cool. That hasn't been said 50 times today already.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. This issue is over, and this thread might as well be closed.

At this rate, you'll be grizzled again quickly.

[Neuqua]

I'm enjoying Subby today.

[Subby]

I, for one, like having post counts visible. I can look over and say - "Hey - I have 4,408 posts on a message board for sports-based text-sim enthusiasts. I am a total fucking loser."

It helps keep me grounded. :D

[Maple Leafs]

I'd just like to say that if we got rid of post counts, my wife wouldn't look over my shoulder and say "Jesus christ, how many now?" and then go upstairs and not have sex with me for a week.

[VPI97]

"Hey - I have 4,408 posts on a message board for sports-based text-sim enthusiasts. I am a total fucking loser."

Dude, don't sell yourself short...you have another 9,427 posts at FOxL that makes you an even biggest loser.

[Subby]

Yeah but those are actual leagues where you get to pretend you are the owner of fake sports franchise and you compete against other owners who are also pretending.

Totally different.

[Logan]

I'd just like to say that if we got rid of post counts, my wife wouldn't look over my shoulder and say "Jesus christ, how many now?" and then go upstairs and not have sex with me for a week.

And this is why it's great to have off topic posts.

[Kodos]

Edit - Also, as a show of solidarity towards the anti-post count movement, I've reset my post counter to zero. I'm a n00b now.

Sorry, n00b. But I'm invoking my rights as a high-post-count member of FOFC to remove you as commissioner of IHOF and GEFL. JeeberD has more posts and thus would clearly be better suited for the job. L8ter, duuuuuuude.

[Anthony]

Whatever you do, don't forget to reset the hattrick forum. Talk about thousands of useless mongrel post-inflated nobodies.

llol (literally laughed out loud).

i'm gonna tweak my left nipple out of pure glee from reading your post.

[Craptacular]

These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on my order of arrival.

Close, but I believe it was "based on the order in which I joined." Oh well ... how the hell did I let myself read that far in this thread anyway?

[Ksyrup]

It seems like there are 2 issues here that should be discussed separately.

One is post counts. I don't care if we get rid of them, but if we have them, I'm in favor of all posts in all forums counting. Since they don't matter in the big picture, I don't really understand why they shouldn't count in some circumstances but count in others. As I said back on page 2, I see some value in post counts as context of the board life in general that is helpful to newbies and f'in elitists alike, but I don't care enough about post counts to be deadset against getting rid of them. Consistency is all I am looking for.

The other issue is what belongs in the General Discussion forum. To me, "meaningless" or "stupid" one-off threads are not a problem. That is the very definition of "general discussion." Each is usually a single thread and doesn't take up space. If we were to create a separate thread for every hot molester or every Daivd Winters quote, then I could see a problem. But they are all neatly packed in a self-contained thread and are a minimal intrusion (if at all).

Plus, they are on a variety of topics. So, trying to corral those and move them to another forum makes no sense to me. The thing about the WW threads, or the Hot or Not threads, or the Hattrick threads that makes them prime candidates to be moved to another forum is that they are easily segregable. That's it. Maybe we need to have a "Serial Thread" forum where stuff like that gets posted, because of all the stuff posted in this forum, those are the ones that can truly "muck up" the board at times. The alternative is to just ignore them, but if there is a concern about clutter or streamlining the GD forum, these threads could easily be moved.

As far as having a separate Political Forum, my only concern there is the dividing line between discussion of current events and political debate. I just don't know that we want to take on constant monitoring of a thread that starts as a news topic and evolves (or devolves) into partisan bitching. Those types of threads are not easily distinguishable.

And that's my $.02 on all of these issues.

[Airhog]

The reason WW threads were given their own forum is becuase the software cannot handle not counting certain threads in a forum against your post count. You can only turn of adding posts to your count, on a whole forum.

[Samdari]

I think we should leave post counts on, but permanently ban posting any mention of them.

[Ryche]

This poll is truly deserving of the trout option.

[Abe Sargent]

Hmm

[Senator]

October 2000 4 life.

[B & B]

I think that the post count should remain, but become hidden to yourself and all other posters. The exception is that only the moderators can see your post count, nobody else. And by moderators I mean Max Kellerman.