NBC: Heroes

[kingfc22]

Ok, just watched this on my Tivo and my friend tells me the cheerleader girl was in "Remember the Titans". Damn I feel old now.

Then:

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2000_Remember_the_Titans/hayden_panettiere_remember_the_titans_001.jpg


Now:
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/60/50/89m.jpg

[KWhit]

Looks exactly the same to me.

[MikeVic]

I liked the premiere a lot.

[bulletsponge]

http://www.smileyhut.com/silly/rex1.gif

[Sublime 2]

I liked the premiere a lot.

So far I've been entertained by both...nothing amazing, but intriguing none the less.

[Joe]

i tried to like it, but fell asleep

[Izulde]

I missed both episodes :(

I'm going to try and catch this week's, though. Will I still understand what's going on or will I be lost without the backstory?

[TazFTW]

I missed both episodes :(

I'm going to try and catch this week's, though. Will I still understand what's going on or will I be lost without the backstory?

Wait, I thought only 1 episode has been shown so far?

[Huckleberry]

I hadn't even noticed. Obviously now I wonder how I missed it but her facial expressions have changed a lot.

[FBPro]

It is only one, just rebroadcast.

[Coop]

There was only 1 episode shown so far and apparently the next two episodes are "unbelievable"

[Thomkal]

As a comic book junkie, I love shows like this. It had some surprisingly adult themes (drug abuse, porn, etc) which I wasn't expecting from the previews I saw, so that was a surprise. But looks like the show will be a lot of fun. I think the Japanese guy may steal the show :) Was very surprised by the preview of what he apparantly finds at the newsstand.

[Thomkal]

Izulde they will probably show a "recap" of the first episode on the second episode, so you shouldn't be too lost. NBC.com probably has a recap of the story too.

[kurtism]

If you go here: http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/ you can stream the entire premiere ep

[Anthony]

i liked this episode a lot. easily in my short rotation of shows (i only watch Lost and Sopranos, now Heroes). my wife loved it as well.


does anyone know what the power/ability is for Ali Larter's character? she can be in two places at once? or is it supposed to be a secret for now?

[Izulde]

If you go here: http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/ you can stream the entire premiere ep

Thanks! :)

And thanks to the others who answered as well.

[MikeVic]

i liked this episode a lot. easily in my short rotation of shows (i only watch Lost and Sopranos, now Heroes). my wife loved it as well.


does anyone know what the power/ability is for Ali Larter's character? she can be in two places at once? or is it supposed to be a secret for now?

I think it's a secret. I find it interesting too: what's her power?

I read speculation that maybe her son is the one with a power, and she is just some crazy woman. :D Web porn star by day, killer by night lol. Also, maybe her reflection can interact with another person's reflection, and it'll affect them in real life.

[sachmo71]

She may be able to split herself into another person, like what's-his-nuts from new mutants. tommy madrox, I think.

EDIT: It's Jamie Madrox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Madrox)

[gottimd]

I was thinking she has control of shadows/reflections or something. I am sure I am way off on that, but it was like she can control them (in due time) to do what she wants.

Or maybe her superpower is to get naked....all of the time.

EDIT:
Here is the Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29
Says her power is like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger

[jbmagic]

Will all these hereos meet and become a team later on?

[Glengoyne]

I'm thinking that her power will be revealed by what is on her video tape. Someone cleaned those guy's clocks, and I'm wanting to check out the video.

Most interesting series of the new season.

[gottimd]

Will all these hereos meet and become a team later on?

From the previews it looks they do meet up at some point. Didn't next weeks episode show them talking to the painter guy and saying something about saving the cheerleader?

Also, I think villains may start being introduced, other than the horned rim glasses guy.

[sachmo71]

From the previews it looks they do meet up at some point. Didn't next weeks episode show them talking to the painter guy and saying something about saving the cheerleader?

Also, I think villains may start being introduced, other than the horned rim glasses guy.

From what I saw, apparently they find a comic book that either forsees the events in their lives, or recounts them right after they happen. I think they start delving into that next week.

[Coop]

they start meeting around episode 4

[jbmagic]

The SciFi Channel has announced that they will be re-running the current week's episodes of Heroes on Friday nights at 7pm (ET) starting on September 29, 2006. These airings come right before new-to-the-USA episodes of Doctor Who and Battlestar Galactica so you know it'll be a good night of TV!!!

Chances are though, if you have high-def TV in your area, you'll still want to catch the Monday NBC airings because they'll look the best.

[terpkristin]

I guess I may be one of the only ones, but I felt that the series premiere was a solid "meh," and wasn't enough to keep me wanting to watch future weeks. I saw what they were trying to do, and I guess the concept has potential, but to me, it felt like the premiere was really too drawn out, it took too long...

I'll be interested in seeing what people think as the show goes on, but for now, this is a skip for me.

/tk

[KevinNU7]

Dudes, Ali's character is clearly a Doppelganger (excuse the spelling).

[gkb]

i liked this episode a lot. easily in my short rotation of shows (i only watch Lost and Sopranos, now Heroes). my wife loved it as well.


does anyone know what the power/ability is for Ali Larter's character? she can be in two places at once? or is it supposed to be a secret for now?

I thought maybe she "Hulked" out once she got hit. That doesn't really explain the odd reflections in the mirrors though.

[Raiders Army]

Just watched the first episode this morning (again, loving our DVR). I would guess that the stripper's character is somewhat like the Hulk, since no one else can see her reflections...then again, it could be that her reflection is coming to life since after the two dudes in her house were killed her reflection looked as if it was in a fight yet she didn't.

My wife called that the dude in the glasses was the cheerleader's dad right before he walked in.

[kingfc22]

I thought maybe she "Hulked" out once she got hit. That doesn't really explain the odd reflections in the mirrors though.

I was thinking a jekyl and hyde type character.

[Easy Mac]

this is now on my Must Watch List. I've heard that people don't like the first few episodes (critics), too much exposition. It's a comic book TV show, that's the point of origin stories.

Be that as it may, this is now behind Lost, The Office and House on my don't miss list.

[Neuqua]

I'm glad you like the show.

I just couldn't get into it for the second straight week. Ah well, looking forward to seeing 30 Rock (or whatever it is called) that premieres next week.

[Coop]

This episode was better than last weeks...the ending was great imo

[Celeval]

I like it a lot, so far. Definately on my must-watch. I still don't have a solid feel for the stripper yet, either.

[revrew]

I guess I may be one of the only ones, but I felt that the series premiere was a solid "meh," and wasn't enough to keep me wanting to watch future weeks. I saw what they were trying to do, and I guess the concept has potential, but to me, it felt like the premiere was really too drawn out, it took too long...

I'll be interested in seeing what people think as the show goes on, but for now, this is a skip for me.

/tk

No, you're not the only one. I was really excited to see this show...until I actually watched it. And I LIKE comic book movies, etc (Unbreakable, X-men, V for Vendetta, Hellboy, Spiderman, etc etc). I even like the girl from Titans, Raising Helen, etc.

But the characters/actors to me were uncompelling, I don't remember a single clever piece of dialogue or writing, and of course--the old Hollywood standby--"If we can't produce something actually interesting in content or plot, just get somebody naked!" Please. I find the obvious ploy to get 14-yr-old boys all sweaty an insult. If you can't make something worth watching without somebody getting naked, stripping, or humping on screen, what exactly separates your work from a B-level porn flick? It's like comedians who aren't actually funny just saying #$@#%$ and everybody laughs. I call it "Least Common Denominator" producing. I was hoping for something more from this series. /end rant/

[TRO]

This episode was better than last weeks...the ending was great imo

Yes, Yes. I enjoyed most of the show but the ending truly had me geeked out.

[MikeVic]

I also liked the ending... So Hiro will now know pieces of how stuff goes down... great that he can't speak english either. :D Instead of November 8th, I wish they used a real show date. That way you knew what day to watch for that to happen.

[FBPro]

Must see TV on my list, a bit hard to understand at this point but I'm sure some of the details will become more clear as time goes on.

[ISiddiqui]

Great 2nd episode, kind of following everyone's life, developing all the characters a bit, and then.... reset. Really cool. I wonder how stuff is going to get all altered as a result. Because you know how things happened in this episode will not happen the same way after the reset. Or did all that stuff happen before Hiro went to New York and Hiro was just occupying the future for a while?

Basically, Hiro went from 10/2 to 11/8. My question is whether all the stuff with the other people happened before 10/2 (and Hiro's story was the only one in 11/8) or did that stuff happen before 11/8, which means it can be altered by Hiro's knowledge of the future?

Interesting questions...

[spleen1015]

Just finished episode 2. The ending was surprising. I didn't see that one coming. I am definitely anxious to tune in next week.

[kingfc22]

Very cool ending to this weeks episode.

[Ryche]

I had noticed when he originally teleported that the clock over his head accelerated but didn't think anything of it. Interesting turn of events there.

I really like the pace of the show right now. They're not rushing it, but making steady progress. I have a feeling the stripper's son is going to end up playing a huge part of this before it's over.

[Izulde]

I wasn't able to catch this week's episode, but I finally caught the premiere and I came away pretty impressed with it. I loved the dialogue between the Japanese guys and I think they hit on some nice cultural things there. :D

I don't know if we get Sci-Fi here at the fraternity house or not, but if we do I'll catch Week 2's episode on Friday.

Week 1 ended on a very nice cliffhanger, I think and I'll admit the first thing that came to mind when I saw that ending is something from the Dragonlance novels.

[sachmo71]

I'm hoping the dialog gets better...it's pretty painful. Must remember it's a comic book, I guess.

[Draft Dodger]

dialogue is pretty poor...but I dig this show very much. that ending was terrific.

[Thomkal]

I guess I watched a different show than Revrew. :) I've found many of the characters and their situations compelling. The interaction between the two brothers and the questions over whether they need each other to fly, the interaction between the daughter and the father, given what we know about the father, Hiro's continual real comic book references. The weakest character so far I think is the cop, but then we really haven't got into his story too much yet. I like that actor who plays the cop though, so I hope he becomes more involved in the story. That ending was geektastic. :)

The one thing that has turned me off a bit is the graphic violence-the bodies in the trunk, the murder scene in California and the artist studio were just a little bit too much for me, and not needed to tell a good story.

[Raiders Army]

The one thing that has turned me off a bit is the graphic violence-the bodies in the trunk, the murder scene in California and the artist studio were just a little bit too much for me, and not needed to tell a good story.
I can agree here and I was surprised that they showed that much stuff without a parental warning at the beginning of the show.

Anyhow, yeah I love this show too. I believe that some of this stuff is a little too over the top with the Kitty Pryde reference in the pilot episode and then Hiro (another hit-you-over-the-head "he's a HERO!") parallels her path by going into an apocalyptic future; however, this show definitely has me hooked.

[ISiddiqui]

I think the graphic violence is to contrast the relative 'clean' violence you find in comic books or superhero movies. It's showing how gory being a superhero in real life would be.

[Flasch186]

I wasn't able to catch this week's episode, but I finally caught the premiere and I came away pretty impressed with it. I loved the dialogue between the Japanese guys and I think they hit on some nice cultural things there. :D

I don't know if we get Sci-Fi here at the fraternity house or not, but if we do I'll catch Week 2's episode on Friday.

Week 1 ended on a very nice cliffhanger, I think and I'll admit the first thing that came to mind when I saw that ending is something from the Dragonlance novels.

I noticed they played episode 1 after wrasslin' on USA last night, at 1100pm EST.

[Toddzilla]

I guess I may be one of the only ones, but I felt that the series premiere was a solid "meh," and wasn't enough to keep me wanting to watch future weeks. I saw what they were trying to do, and I guess the concept has potential, but to me, it felt like the premiere was really too drawn out, it took too long...

I'll be interested in seeing what people think as the show goes on, but for now, this is a skip for me.

/tk"

[gottimd]

I am hooked as well on this show.

I am awaiting the introduction of the hero with the power of unbeatable in Text Sim football. Do you think there will be such a character? (awaits inevitable answer from a few forum members...)

[Izulde]

I honestly don't think the dialogue is that terrible. Yes it's a bit overdone in places and occasionally there's a few cliched bits, but some of it is absolutely freaking hilarious.

In particular I found the line "We're not special. We're Japanese!" hysterically funny, but maybe that's because I'm somewhat versed in Japanese history and culture.

Or maybe I'm just odd. :D

[Izulde]

I guess I watched a different show than Revrew. :) I've found many of the characters and their situations compelling. The interaction between the two brothers and the questions over whether they need each other to fly, the interaction between the daughter and the father, given what we know about the father, Hiro's continual real comic book references. The weakest character so far I think is the cop, but then we really haven't got into his story too much yet. I like that actor who plays the cop though, so I hope he becomes more involved in the story. That ending was geektastic. :)

Honestly, in terms of the brothers, I'm much more interested in the potential triangle that's developing between the nurse brother, the artist, and the girl. There's a beaut of a source for conflict there.

Gah, I really hope we get Sci-Fi here. I'd love to see that second episode!

By the way, I didn't find the premiere drawn out at all. Although many call this a comic book series, I consider it to be a drama first, hero elements second. With the type of elaborate construction and setup of plot they're apparently planning, you need to take your time with it and build it up slowly so that you can give the threads depth and meaning and the eventual connexions make sense.

In terms of the musical score, it was hit and miss. Some of it I really liked and thought it fit the scenes really well. Other times I was like, "Eh, doesn't quite work here."

There's definitely a lot of promise in this series, though.

[revrew]

In particular I found the line "We're not special. We're Japanese!" hysterically funny, but maybe that's because I'm somewhat versed in Japanese history and culture.

Or maybe I'm just odd. :D

I had forgotten about that one. That WAS good. Still, I didn't see the second episode for lack of interest after the first.

[Anthony]

Great 2nd episode, kind of following everyone's life, developing all the characters a bit, and then.... reset. Really cool. I wonder how stuff is going to get all altered as a result. Because you know how things happened in this episode will not happen the same way after the reset. Or did all that stuff happen before Hiro went to New York and Hiro was just occupying the future for a while?

Basically, Hiro went from 10/2 to 11/8. My question is whether all the stuff with the other people happened before 10/2 (and Hiro's story was the only one in 11/8) or did that stuff happen before 11/8, which means it can be altered by Hiro's knowledge of the future?

Interesting questions...

i think he was just occupying the future. remember, Ali Larter's story happened all in the span of about 4 hours. we know this cause she apparently blacked out in the car when she called her son on her way to pick him up. so i think he was the lone "hero" in that future sequence.

did anyone happen to catch what Hiro's character was saying/doing in the unfinished comic book at the artist's loft? i can see they're definitely going for the "Lost" angle here, trying to throw in some small, easily missable stuff that you can only catch if you rewatch or become like a Lost groupie and try to be the first one to solve all the hidden puzzles. just wondering if that comic strip might've said anything, or was it just a comic/prophecy of Hiro walking into the loft?

[gottimd]

I have a feeling that since the future is now known by two "hero's", the future will change. Although they showed a date of November 8th, they will alter stuff as time goes on to prolong it, sort of like the Terminator Series/Timeline plot.

[ISiddiqui]

i think he was just occupying the future. remember, Ali Larter's story happened all in the span of about 4 hours. we know this cause she apparently blacked out in the car when she called her son on her way to pick him up. so i think he was the lone "hero" in that future sequence.

Yeah, but the entirety of Larter's story could be between 10/2 and 11/8. We aren't ever told if Hiro's story (when it begins) is running concurrently with everyone else's, until he jumps to New York, or whether it is running before everyone else's until he jumps past everyone else's story.

[ISiddiqui]

I have a feeling that since the future is now known by two "hero's", the future will change. Although they showed a date of November 8th, they will alter stuff as time goes on to prolong it, sort of like the Terminator Series/Timeline plot.

Well, I'd imagine so... otherwise it'd be a short run ;). And I think they need two heros to have seen it, so they can meet and realize that either of them isn't entirely crazy.

[gottimd]

Well, I'd imagine so... otherwise it'd be a short run ;). And I think they need two heros to have seen it, so they can meet and realize that either of them isn't entirely crazy.

Not necessarily...look at 24. Although the series is set up on real time, so I guess my comparison sucks.

I wonder how much teleportation takes out of him, energy wise. I would just have him teleport back and forth between the future, find out who is responsible and how everything was set up, then stop it now. Eventhough that could take some time going back and forth, the current timeline could possibly stay on track for 5 weeks.

But I assume he has some limitations on his teleportation that are unknown.

[ISiddiqui]

Yeah, there definately is a lot about the powers we don't know about. Such as, can he control what time he can go to, or is it just how long it would take to get to a certain place (such as 5 weeks for NYC) and then he can go back to right before he did it?

[spleen1015]

Did anyone else think that the guy laying on the floor when Hiro showed up was not Isaac, the artist dude he was there to see?

[Anthony]

i thought it was him. i thought it was weird that the top of his head, like the frozen guy at the murder scene, was cut off and his brain removed. perhaps the frozen guy was a hero also, and whomever is going around chopping people's heads off are trying to collect their brains in order to harness their powers.

[Anthony]

below is an email i sent to my friends (we're also talking about Heroes today). you may not want to read if you are easily offended:

and btw, that cheerleader chick (who played the little girl from Remember the Titans) is now in my top 10. i was watching the show thinking about how much like flowers she would smell down there, and how it would be to feel my phallus gliding in and out of her moistened vagina.

fucking hot.

[gottimd]

i thought it was him. i thought it was weird that the top of his head, like the frozen guy at the murder scene, was cut off and his brain removed. perhaps the frozen guy was a hero also, and whomever is going around chopping people's heads off are trying to collect their brains in order to harness their powers.

This villain guy, Sylar, I think will be the person responsible for these killings. Maybe he realizes that something in the brain determines an aspect of a persons super ability? Anyone think that Sylar could be the cheerleaders dad?


Spoiler? However, Sylar is also an apparent murderer who uses his powers to freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze) his victims solid. When found, his victims are usually seen with their heads sliced open horizontally at the center of their brain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain), which is missing.

[spleen1015]

This villain guy, Sylar, I think will be the person responsible for these killings. Maybe he realizes that something in the brain determines an aspect of a persons super ability? Anyone think that Sylar could be the cheerleaders dad?

I think it could be.

[gottimd]

below is an email i sent to my friends (we're also talking about Heroes today). you may not want to read if you are easily offended:

Hahahaha! She is hot. She kind of reminds me of Ben Stillers wife, but a younger version.

[lordscarlet]

Hahahaha! She is hot. She kind of reminds me of Ben Stillers wife, but a younger version.

I'm not big on the 16 year old look. :)

Ali Larter on the other hand...

[Anthony]

I'm not big on the 16 year old look. :)

Ali Larter on the other hand...


...is looking very aged. she was either a young looking woman who played a lot of teen roles in her movies or Father Time is having his way with her.


i'd fornicate w/ her, but she ain't the Ali Larter from Varsity Blues, that's all i'm saying.

[lordscarlet]

...is looking very aged. she was either a young looking woman who played a lot of teen roles in her movies or Father Time is having his way with her.


i'd fornicate w/ her, but she ain't the Ali Larter from Varsity Blues, that's all i'm saying.

Making a complete generalization based on your attraction to the cheerleader, it would seem that if you look 19 it's too old for you. :)

[Raiders Army]

This villain guy, Sylar, I think will be the person responsible for these killings. Maybe he realizes that something in the brain determines an aspect of a persons super ability? Anyone think that Sylar could be the cheerleaders dad?


Spoiler? However, Sylar is also an apparent murderer who uses his powers to freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze) his victims solid. When found, his victims are usually seen with their heads sliced open horizontally at the center of their brain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain), which is missing.
I thought it was fairly obvious that Sylar was probably Clea Duvall's character who arrested the telepathic cop. She seemed very suspicious of him and didn't even ask how he read her mind. I don't think it's the horn-rimmed glasses dad...he's probably the master villan and Sylar is the villan of this season.

Did anyone else think that the professor's neighbor girl is bad? Some of her looks were very dubious at best when Suresh was accessing his dad's thumbdrive.

[ISiddiqui]

Obvious that it was Clea DuVall's character?! I hadn't enough thought of it until you brought it up and I'm still not convinced. She had no idea he read her mind. And the voice on the machine was definately male.

[Raiders Army]

Obvious that it was Clea DuVall's character?! I hadn't enough thought of it until you brought it up and I'm still not convinced. She had no idea he read her mind. And the voice on the machine was definately male.

I'll have to re-watch the episode, but I swear she thought something and he answered her thought.

[ISiddiqui]

I'll have to re-watch the episode, but I swear she thought something and he answered her thought.

He did... but she had no idea that he was answering her thought (because he just said "Yea" to it and she thought he was trying to emphasize his previous answer about knowing about Syler).

[Cringer]

I'm not big on the 16 year old look. :)

Damn, I just IMDB'd her hoping she was over 18. She is 17 as of a couple months ago.

She has been in a ton of crap though, including a voice in Bug's Life and a voice in the Kindom Hearts games.

[gkb]

I thought it was fairly obvious that Sylar was probably Clea Duvall's character who arrested the telepathic cop. She seemed very suspicious of him and didn't even ask how he read her mind. I don't think it's the horn-rimmed glasses dad...he's probably the master villan and Sylar is the villan of this season.

Did anyone else think that the professor's neighbor girl is bad? Some of her looks were very dubious at best when Suresh was accessing his dad's thumbdrive.

My wife and I were both suspicious of the professor's neighbor...

[Draft Dodger]

so, we're watching episode 2, and when the cop who can read thoughts comes on screen, my wife is like "who is that?". and I know, but can't place him.

later, we're in bed, almost asleep and it hits me. so I wake up my wife to proudly tell her that it was the pilot from Lost. she grumpily tells me she didn't mean the actor, she meant "on the show", as in, how come he wasn't in the first episode. :)

[Coop]

It was Greg Gunberg, he was also on Felicity and Alias. He was underused on alias for 4 seaons but anyway..While watching the show i was thinking maybe the one brother can 'steal' other people's powers. Something like Rogue but he doesnt hurt that person. He did mention about having a connection to his brother, he started to fly when he was near his brother twice.. am I just looking too much into this because of Lost? heh

Edit:I forgot something else, after he came into contact with the painter.. When he was in the hospital he drew the picture with him floating and his brother watching on the rooftop.

[gottimd]

Edit:I forgot something else, after he came into contact with the painter.. When he was in the hospital he drew the picture with him floating and his brother watching on the rooftop.

I don't think that really counts. He was drawing what he remembered of the incident, not a future event. Unless you are talking about his artistic ability, but wasn't he drawing stick figures?

[Easy Mac]

My wife and I were both suspicious of the professor's neighbor...
the girl is cute, like a poor man's Rachel Bilson. She was sexy, but annoying in Brick.

[gottimd]

the girl is cute, like a poor man's Rachel Bilson. She was sexy, but annoying in Brick.

She will probably just be an annoying sidekick.

[Draft Dodger]

I don't think that really counts. He was drawing what he remembered of the incident, not a future event. Unless you are talking about his artistic ability, but wasn't he drawing stick figures?

no, the incident he drew happened after he drew it. the roguelike power makes a lot of sense. I also can't help thinking his brother is going to end up being one of the bad guys, pitting them against each other.

[Cringer]

no, the incident he drew happened after he drew it. the roguelike power makes a lot of sense. I also can't help thinking his brother is going to end up being one of the bad guys, pitting them against each other.

Is it because the brother is a politician? :)

And as a couple guys said, I too thought the neighbor chick was bad.

[gottimd]

no, the incident he drew happened after he drew it.


I am confused. I thought he called his brother to the alley, jumped, his brother flew and sort of caught him and dropped him. That is how he ended up in the hospital, and he was doodling that on a pad of paper.

Then later in the show, he just levitated basically in front of his brother as he walked closer to him off of the ledge of a building. Levitated without realizing until his brother said something. I didnt think that is what he was drawing, I thought he was drawing the event that got him in the hospital.

[Coop]

Then later in the show, he just levitated basically in front of his brother as he walked closer to him off of the ledge of a building. Levitated without realizing until his brother said something. I didnt think that is what he was drawing, I thought he was drawing the event that got him in the hospital.

No he was drawing the second event

[gottimd]

No he was drawing the second event

Anyone got the picture?

[Mr. Wednesday]

No he was drawing the second event
Also recall the way they had a lingering shot of the sketch later on, kind of a semi-overt suggestion that it was significant.

[Glengoyne]

Anyone got the picture?

Paging Flere.

I'm not at all convinced that the horned rimmed guy is Sylar. I'm not even necesarilly on board with him being evil. I do think he adopted the cheerleader after her mutie parents were killed though. Now I'm not sure how tied to the "bad guys" he is.

There is no way the female cop is Sylar. I believe that was a total misinterpretation of what happened in the scene.

I'm on board with Sylar using the professor's theories to identify "specials" and then harvesting their brains or somesuch.

[jbmagic]

You can now watch the 2nd episode here.

http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes

[Izulde]

Things are -really- getting interesting.

I don't suspect the professor's neighbour at all. The cheerleader's dad just oozes sliminess though and he has to be a villian of some sort.

It's my impression that we haven't encountered the real Sylar yet, but that he'll appear in future episodes.

It's certainly not the detective. I agree that those who accuse her are misreading the scene.

[TazFTW]

did anyone happen to catch what Hiro's character was saying/doing in the unfinished comic book at the artist's loft? i can see they're definitely going for the "Lost" angle here, trying to throw in some small, easily missable stuff that you can only catch if you rewatch or become like a Lost groupie and try to be the first one to solve all the hidden puzzles. just wondering if that comic strip might've said anything, or was it just a comic/prophecy of Hiro walking into the loft?

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8832/vlcsnap236305ol8.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap236305ol8.jpg)

It is a bit blurry but you should be able to make out the "Today is November 8" in the middle panel. So it was forshadowing the end of the ep.

Here's the sketch the brother did;

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5881/vlcsnap241662ha0.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap241662ha0.jpg)

[TazFTW]

dola

There's also an appearance of a symbol (DNA-ish) in a few shots (pic borrowed from another forum)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9168/snaptq3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snaptq3.jpg)

I guess it is this show's Lost numbers.

[Thomkal]

Just read an article on AOL that I would post if it wasn't completely useless in information-we already know what's mentioned in it, with one exception. They spoke to three of the actors-the professor's son, the cheerleader, and the stripper. We've been talking about what exactly in the stripper's power and she goes into more detail about it.

"What's in store for your character? Ali Larter: Well I'm going to have to start dealing with the other side of my personality. And its going to put me in situations where I may have to break the law. I'm going to deal with that and possibly the seperating of my personalities and figuring out how to bring the two together."

So it looks like she has multiple personalities, and I'm beginning to think the mirrors are just the visual cue for her change to the evil personality, the one that apparantly has powers.

[Draft Dodger]

Paging Flere.

I'm not at all convinced that the horned rimmed guy is Sylar. I'm not even necesarilly on board with him being evil. I do think he adopted the cheerleader after her mutie parents were killed though. Now I'm not sure how tied to the "bad guys" he is.

There is no way the female cop is Sylar. I believe that was a total misinterpretation of what happened in the scene.

I'm on board with Sylar using the professor's theories to identify "specials" and then harvesting their brains or somesuch.

I'm pretty much on board with all of this. remember in the first episode, the horned rim guy was in the apartment talking to someone else on the phone. I don't imagine an evil mastermind would need to check in with his boss. and I too am not convinced he's even bad - he strikes me more as a govt type...maybe an AD Skinner-type of sometime reluctant helper, sometime thorn in the side.

[wade moore]

so, we're watching episode 2, and when the cop who can read thoughts comes on screen, my wife is like "who is that?". and I know, but can't place him.

This kind of stuff drives me crazy...

For me it was the other cheerleader that took claim for rescueing the guy from the fire.. I checked IMDB and she's not listed in the episode 2 cast.. anyone have any idea what her name is or what else she has been in? It drives me crazy when I can't figure it out...

[Anthony]

I'm pretty much on board with all of this. remember in the first episode, the horned rim guy was in the apartment talking to someone else on the phone. I don't imagine an evil mastermind would need to check in with his boss. and I too am not convinced he's even bad - he strikes me more as a govt type...maybe an AD Skinner-type of sometime reluctant helper, sometime thorn in the side.

i don't think he's bad either. first rule of tv/movies is the most obvious person to be the bad guy isn't. can't have a surprise twist if the evil guy is revealed in the first episode.

and to be honest - he really hasn't done anything bad or evil, unless you count the evil, threatening music that usually plays in the background while he's on the screen. that doesn't necessarily mean he's evil. but to date - he's done nothing to be considered evil or a threat.

[ISiddiqui]

Well he did get all creepy in the Indian dude's cab.

[gottimd]

I think he is like an X-files type government character as well. Maybe he is on the trail of this Sylar guy and it has led him into the world of these superhero's. He is just trying to figure out the who's and how's, but I guess the writers want to make him look evil. Just my guess though.

[Draft Dodger]

also, the chick neighbor doesn't strike me as evil. just fodder to be killed off

[gottimd]

also, the chick neighbor doesn't strike me as evil. just fodder to be killed off

I agree, see post #80. Probably will learn enough for Sylar to kill her. She is like a redshirt.

[lordscarlet]

I agree, see post #80. Probably will learn enough for Sylar to kill her. She is like a redshirt.

Wasn't she actually wearing a red shirt? :)

[Draft Dodger]

I agree, see post #80. Probably will learn enough for Sylar to kill her. She is like a redshirt.

I have to remember to take you off my ignore list. ;)

[Draft Dodger]

This kind of stuff drives me crazy...

For me it was the other cheerleader that took claim for rescueing the guy from the fire.. I checked IMDB and she's not listed in the episode 2 cast.. anyone have any idea what her name is or what else she has been in? It drives me crazy when I can't figure it out...

her, by chance?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1642290/

she played a character named Jackie in ep 2.

[wade moore]

her, by chance?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1642290/

she played a character named Jackie in ep 2.

a-ha, yes... Know her from that stupid Summerland show.. couldn't figure it out because of the different hair color..

Thanks!

Edit: How did you figure this out? Because IMDB doesn't have it listed...

[Izulde]

a-ha, yes... Know her from that stupid Summerland show.. couldn't figure it out because of the different hair color..

Thanks!

Edit: How did you figure this out? Because IMDB doesn't have it listed...

It's probably in the end credits of the show.

And I hope the neighbour girl doesn't get killed off. I don't know, but I really like her.

[Draft Dodger]

a-ha, yes... Know her from that stupid Summerland show.. couldn't figure it out because of the different hair color..

Thanks!

Edit: How did you figure this out? Because IMDB doesn't have it listed...

I have my sources.
(tv.com is a good source for credits on individual shows, especially the one or two line people)

[Izulde]

dola,

if the father doesn't have any evil in him, then wtf was he watching that tape of his daughter and not saying anything about it?

Furthermore:

1) He was in India, got creepy with the Indian in the cab in New York as others have pointed out, but lives in Texas.

2) There's a constant insuiation that he knows more than he's letting on.

So put all three together and the following conclusions are drawn:

A) He's a villian of some sort

B) If not a villian, then he's very heavily involved and invested in either having knowledge of the professor's project or trying to find it out, acting as an agent for some type of higher power, such as a gov't agency as been suggested. In this instance, I still don't necessarily count him as a good guy.

By the way, favourite quote from Episode 2:

"She's dressed too nicely for FBI."

[gottimd]

I had a similar issue with the Friday night lights tv show last night. I knew I had seen that backup Qb somewhere on TV (Sarazen). Thank god IMDB answered my question, he was on Law and Order: SVU as the Lacrosse captain who raped some little girl and the teacher/neighbor was blamed.

Sorry to derail the actual thread, carry on, and as DD said, put me back on ignore.:(

[gottimd]

if the father doesn't have any evil in him, then wtf was he watching that tape of his daughter and not saying anything about it?
He knows his daughter has some powers and hopes maybe she can lead her to the villain? As some sort of Gov't agent, I assume he doesn't want to tell his daughter "hey since you got the nifty power and all, can you lead me to the evil guy, now lets go take a bath together...mmmkay?"



1) He was in India, got creepy with the Indian in the cab in New York as others have pointed out, but lives in Texas. So he travels alot being a government agent. Not uncommon.


2) There's a constant insuiation that he knows more than he's letting on. That means he is evil? I don't understand.

[TroyF]

Just some of my thoughts from reading the discussion:

1) I'm not sure if the flying guy has rogue powers simply because he drew that image. Remember, he was having dreams about flying in the first episode, long before he met the artist. He may have some form of predictive abilities himself.

2) I think the dad is an evil character. I agree he isn't THE evil character, but I don't think he's up to any good.

3) I can't quite figure the strippers character out. Multiple personalities like some have suggested? I dunno.

[wade moore]

Izulde is an example of the reason they stilla lways do the "he's a bad guy, oh wait, no he's not!"

[ISiddiqui]

I think the cheerleader dad is semi-evil, but not THE bad guy. He's more of like a government agent trying to put a lid on all these heroes. But Sylar is probably someone we haven't met yet.

[Draft Dodger]

Sorry to derail the actual thread, carry on, and as DD said, put me back on ignore.:(

:D :p

[gottimd]

I am awaiting the introduction of a character with a completely useless superpower.

[ISiddiqui]

I am awaiting the introduction of a character with a completely useless superpower.

Hello! I'm 10 hour erection man!

[gottimd]

Sylar is not even mentioned anywhere on IMDB. So that leads me to believe that the writers won't include his face, body, etc in any upcoming episodes as no one has been cast. He will continue to be just a voice. I think he is Captain Lou Albano or Father Guido Sarducci.

[Izulde]

He knows his daughter has some powers and hopes maybe she can lead her to the villain? As some sort of Gov't agent, I assume he doesn't want to tell his daughter "hey since you got the nifty power and all, can you lead me to the evil guy, now lets go take a bath together...mmmkay?"

He still knows something. If he was perfectly innocent, he'd want to know what's going on.

So he travels alot being a government agent. Not uncommon.

Sure, but like I said, even as a gov't agent, I still consider him to be an evil type.

That means he is evil? I don't understand.

More like in combination with everything else, he strikes me as being an evil type. The main baddie, no. Like I said before, I don't think we've seen Sylar yet.

[Izulde]

3) I can't quite figure the strippers character out. Multiple personalities like some have suggested? I dunno.

I'm leaning towards the Jekyll and Hyde theory previously mentioned.

Although, extreme physical strength was needed to kill those guys and some stealth was needed to steal that car...

So maybe there *are* multiple personalities beyond just the straight Jekyll/Hude thing.

[KevinNU7]

dola

There's also an appearance of a symbol (DNA-ish) in a few shots (pic borrowed from another forum)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9168/snaptq3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snaptq3.jpg)

I guess it is this show's Lost numbers.
Awesome! I noticed all of them but the pool. I wonder what it means

[KevinNU7]

Ok here are my thoughts taken posted on another board yesterday. I'm glad to see the discussion liven up over here.

I think they are doing a pretty solid job so far with the show. I really was clueless on Hiro moving to the future until his friend said he was misisng for 5 weeks. Took me until he was back in the Japanese subway before I realized he can teleport AND move to different time periods (At first I just thought his teleportation took a really long time).

{{{One this other message board people were complaining about the comic book in the story}}}
Alot of people are hating on the comic book but I am not sure why. Maybe it was because they hadn't watched the entire 2nd episode before they posted. Seems to fit in nicely to me. The artist was plagued by his drawing on the nuclear eplosion and knew that the city would some day be hit. He started drawing this cartoon and realized that he need to get it published so that the person would find it and come to him. He must have assumed he would be vital to helping stop the attack.
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So patient 0 seems to be the one behind the demeloning of the artist since that guy in the house was found the same way. Now the question is, is he the cheerleader's father or someone else entirely? I think I am leaning towards someone else entirely. In fact I think that over time we will learn that the cheerleader's dad is actually a "good guy" and does what he does in search of patient 0.

In fact who to say the the cheerleader's dad is behind the death of Indian guy's father, I'd say patient 0 seems more likely. Maybe the cheerleader's dad is just waiting for patient 0 to get in touch with Indian guy and that is why he is following him.
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[jbmagic]

I read before , some of the super hereos will turn out to be evil. And use their powers in a bad way.

[sachmo71]

people from Texas are evil, anyway.

[gottimd]

In fact I think that over time we will learn that the cheerleader's dad is actually a "good guy" and does what he does in search of patient 0.
My thoughts exactly.


In fact who to say the the cheerleader's dad is behind the death of Indian guy's father, I'd say patient 0 seems more likely. Maybe the cheerleader's dad is just waiting for patient 0 to get in touch with Indian guy and that is why he is following him.
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I think the writers want you to believe patient 0 is Sylar. And I think the Cheerleaders father is probably using his daughter as bait to get some answers into the superhero's world.

I heard that we are introduced to a criminal in jail later who has the power of "phasing". Not sure what that power is. I think to keep this series going, they will have to have some villains and not just Sylar. Like there should be a bunch of them around that are evil. Sort of borrowing from Stephen Kings The Stand I guess.

[lordscarlet]

I am awaiting the introduction of a character with a completely useless superpower.

I thought that was Ali Larter's character? :)

[sachmo71]

don't underestimate the power of Triangle Man.

[lordscarlet]

My thoughts exactly.


I think the writers want you to believe patient 0 is Sylar. And I think the Cheerleaders father is probably using his daughter as bait to get some answers into the superhero's world.

I heard that we are introduced to a criminal in jail later who has the power of "phasing". Not sure what that power is. I think to keep this series going, they will have to have some villains and not just Sylar. Like there should be a bunch of them around that are evil. Sort of borrowing from Stephen Kings The Stand I guess.

"Phasing" means moving from one location to another within the same vicinity, I believe.

[spleen1015]

"Phasing" means moving from one location to another within the same vicinity, I believe.

Nightcrawler is what I was thinking.

[gkb]

Lots of good theories and ideas here. I think episode 2 rules out the "Hulk" theory for the stripper. Her other personality seems quite productive and capable...cleaning up the garage, getting the bodies into the trunk of the new car, etc.

Is it possible that the little girl the cop saved is the cheerleader or the stripper? Or is it possible that the little girl becomes the cheerleader who becomes the stripper? Nah, that's probably too far-fetched.

I think the theory of the brother who's a nurse having rogue like abilities is really interesting. The picture he drew does indeed seem to be of the later scene with his brother on the roof. If he does have rogue like abilities I want to see what happens when he gets close to the stripper...take that whatever way you like. ;)

I'm enjoying the show. I've heard some complaints about the dialogue, but none of it has jumped out at me as being really, really bad. I think the show is solid and quite entertaining so far.

[gottimd]

Nightcrawler is what I was thinking.

So like Short Range Teleportation? The person needs to see where they are going, they can't just envision it and be there.

[TroyF]

Lots of good theories and ideas here. I think episode 2 rules out the "Hulk" theory for the stripper. Her other personality seems quite productive and capable...cleaning up the garage, getting the bodies into the trunk of the new car, etc.

Is it possible that the little girl the cop saved is the cheerleader or the stripper? Or is it possible that the little girl becomes the cheerleader who becomes the stripper? Nah, that's probably too far-fetched.

I think the theory of the brother who's a nurse having rogue like abilities is really interesting. The picture he drew does indeed seem to be of the later scene with his brother on the roof. If he does have rogue like abilities I want to see what happens when he gets close to the stripper...take that whatever way you like. ;)

I'm enjoying the show. I've heard some complaints about the dialogue, but none of it has jumped out at me as being really, really bad. I think the show is solid and quite entertaining so far.

How did he have visions of jumping off the roof with his brother in the alley? Those all occured before he knew the artist.

I think one of the cool things about the show is watching them not only learn their abilities, but test them to see what they can do.

[lordscarlet]

Nightcrawler is what I was thinking.

I was going to say "like Nightcrawler" but couldn't think of his name.

[SnDvls]

I really enjoy the show and actually was suprised my wife watched both with me so far too and she seems to enjoy it as well.

[chris3627]

It seems obvious that the father is involved somehow. I think he was involved with the professor in the beginning of the project. He knows that this girl was in the project, has these powers, and he managed to adopt her? What better way to keep track of her. Whether he's a good or bad guy? That I don't know.

Extra long fingernail guy would be my useless superpower.

[Anthony]

I read before , some of the super hereos will turn out to be evil. And use their powers in a bad way.

which gives credit to the notion that the politician brother will turn evil.

[gottimd]

My power would be able to turn stuff into corkboard, but not living things. Like if you give me a plate...poooofff....its corkboard. The most destructive, useless material except for maybe when using darts and thumbtacks.

[Draft Dodger]

my power would be to make elevators slow down anytime someone presses the up/down button. seriously, who fucking thinks that will speed up the elevator?

[Honolulu_Blue]

"Phasing" means moving from one location to another within the same vicinity, I believe.

In traditional comic book parlance "phasing" typically means the ability to go completely or partially non-corpreal. Kitty Pryde "phases" through things. Nightcrawler teleports.

Here endeth the lesson.

[revrew]

Just saw the second show on NBC.com's rewind. My attitude about the show is quickly changing.

Now, there is still some seriously insipid dialogue: between the prof and the redshirt girl, between cheerleader and daddy, etc There are also some really bad/annoying characters -- cheerleader #2, flyboy's mother, etc. We switched out sex for gore in episode two. I wonder what we'll have in episode 3? Probably two kids smoking in a basement playing with tarot cards. Maybe somebody humps a cow. Who knows. But, that said...

The main characters are becoming more and more compelling, and the plot definitely drives a good cliffhanger. I'll likely tune into rewind again to see episode 3. Thanks to whoever posted that link.

[Raiders Army]

"Phasing" means moving from one location to another within the same vicinity, I believe.

Jeez...phasing is what Kitty Pryde can do. Move through solid objects, turn into a ghost, etc. I'm surprised someone else didn't say this.

It's far different from teleporting. Some heroes are limited by not being able to phase through organic objects (like humans) but can phase through inanimate objects (like walls). Not only can you walk through stuff, but if bullets are fired at you, they can pass right through.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Today 02:46 PM

In traditional comic book parlance "phasing" typically means the ability to go completely or partially non-corpreal. Kitty Pryde "phases" through things. Nightcrawler teleports.

Here endeth the lesson.

Today 02:48 PM

Jeez...phasing is what Kitty Pryde can do. Move through solid objects, turn into a ghost, etc. I'm surprised someone else didn't say this.

Someone did, my fellow zombie-loving, comic book reading geek. ;)

[gottimd]

So what exact powers does Kitty Pryde have? I just need to hear it for the 389th time before it phases in.:D

[lordscarlet]

Jeez...phasing is what Kitty Pryde can do. Move through solid objects, turn into a ghost, etc. I'm surprised someone else didn't say this.

It's far different from teleporting. Some heroes are limited by not being able to phase through organic objects (like humans) but can phase through inanimate objects (like walls). Not only can you walk through stuff, but if bullets are fired at you, they can pass right through.

Ah, yes.. sorry.. My memory is terribly on that. I was actually thinking that Nightcrawler does indeed phase. Or, at least, I was sort of thinking that. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

This thread has exploded in the last day or so. Just watched it late last night. Just reading to catching up with it now, but it's now one of my favorite shows. My wife also likes it.

[Eaglesfan27]

I think the origin of the cheerleader is interesting too. Who were her parents? I agree with those who think her dad is evil. I wonder how long has he been evil? Did he take her from her parents?


Also, for the stripper, I'm thinking that her reflection is a manifestation of her subconscious and she has some sort of alter personality buried in her subconscious with superhuman strengh in her altered ego. At first, I thought her reflection was actually alive and able to come out of the mirror, but my wife pointed out that no one else seems to see her reflection doing odd things, so now I'm going with the split personality.

[spleen1015]

I think the origin of the cheerleader is interesting too. Who were her parents? I agree with those who think her dad is evil. I wonder how long has he been evil? Did he take her from her parents?

This is a good idea. If he took her from them, that could be a reason why he didn't want her to meet them.

[KevinNU7]

Is it possible that the little girl the cop saved is the cheerleader...This would be awesome! And I was going to post how is wasn't possible because the scenes with the cops didn't look 70s enough. But I realized that it is 2006 and the cheerleader is probably only 15/16 so in theory the cop scenes could be from the early 90s.

[Celeval]

The key point, I think, about the nurse and the politician is the conversation the nurse had with his mom - around knowing his brother was in an accident when it happened, as opposed to when they heard. I dont' think he's necessarily a Rogue-type, but maybe just with his brother - empathic connection (hence the dreams around flight, since his brother can fly), and picking up some of what his brother can do when nearby (since he's only flown near him).

[Raiders Army]

Since the brother with the dreams didn't physically touch his brother in order to fly, I would say that he's more of a Mimic-type character or he has powers like the Super-Adaptoid. :)

I didn't see X-Men 3, but I heard that Leech was in the movie. Mimic was the complete opposite of Leech. On a totally side note, I liked Artie in the comic books...is Artie in X-Men 3?

[Celeval]

Hmmm.... or, the politician can not just fly himself but also do a bit of levitation, and lifted his brother to let him think it was both of them. We didn't see the nurse fly the "first" time, just saw him drop, and all we have to believe he did is the politician's say-so. He was pretty adament that it was both of them, after denying it in himself for so long.

[Danny]

Hello! I'm 10 hour erection man!

Useless? I think not! Trust me, I know.

I am really emjoying the show so far.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I finally caught the second episode this morning. I liked it. The story and characters are interesting enough and the fact that it involves superheroes has me hooked.

I thought some of the dialogue was pretty bad, especially between the Indian guy and the neighbor girl. The neighbor girl (good or bad) sucks. She's a crappy actress, seems to be a lame character, and has horrible dialogue. The Indian guy's dialogue isn't much better, but at least he's a better actor. I guess they are sort of the "exposition" aspect of the show, but everything they did was lame.

I really like the cop and all of the rest of the characters as well.

I don't think the cheerleader's "dad" is Sylar. I think, like many suspect, he's part of an X-Filesesque government conspiracy/organization looking into the "supers". Sylar could very well be her real dad, however. I like the "FBI" women. The rest of the show was solid enough.

[wade moore]

I don't think the cheerleader's "dad" is Sylar. I think, like many suspect, he's part of an X-Filesesque government conspiracy/organization looking into the "supers". Sylar could very well be her real dad, however. I like the "FBI" women. The rest of the show was solid enough.

The only problem I have with the FBI woman (the blonde you mean?) is that I know the actress from a show my fiance used to like to watch, "Joan of Arcadia", where she played a totally different character... (The actor that plays Michael Scoefield in Prison Break is from the show to fwiw)..

[KevinNU7]

The only problem I have with the FBI woman (the blonde you mean?) is that I know the actress from a show my fiance used to like to watch, "Joan of Arcadia", where she played a totally different character... (The actor that plays Michael Scoefield in Prison Break is from the show to fwiw)..
The FBI women was Clea Duvall who was in Identity. She was not in Joan of Arcadia.

[wade moore]

The FBI women was Clea Duvall who was in Identity. She was not in Joan of Arcadia.

Oops..

Looked like Becky Wahlstrom (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0906345/) to me, but you are correct..

[Honolulu_Blue]

I like Clea Duvall and the other one.

[jbmagic]

Spoliers Alert:











Nothing to see here, carry on.

[wade moore]

That's not really a spoiler, it's a speculation.

[Coop]

Spoliers Alert:










Nothing to see here carry on.


You're just stealing my idea that i posted on tuesday ;)

[KWhit]

what better, cheerleader or stripper?

thanks.

[jbmagic]

You're just stealing my idea that i posted on tuesday ;)

tv guide

[jbmagic]

That's not really a spoiler, it's a speculation.


Actually its a spoiler. TV Guide magazine confirm. You will see in episode 5.

[wade moore]

Actually its a spoiler. TV Guide magazine confirm. You will see in episode 5.


Now that's a spoiler, thanks for ruining it.

Jerk.

[gottimd]

Having uncontrollable diarrhea...now that is a superpower.

[Anthony]

what is the point of watching a show if you're gonna look up spoilers? if this were a movie and you were paying $10 a ticket to see the movie would you want to find out how it ends before you see the movie?

speculation and opinions are ok, that's part of the fun with these kinds of shows, but why would anyone want to ruin any surprise (for themselves more than for other people) by finding out what's going to happen in future episodes.

where's the joy in that? or, if you're going to do that then why watch the show, why not just follow the spoilers for all shows and save yourself the time?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Actually its a spoiler. TV Guide magazine confirm. You will see in episode 5.

Dude, seriously. You pulled this same nonsense in the "Lost" thread last year. Just don't. Please.

[Draft Dodger]

Actually its a spoiler. TV Guide magazine confirm. You will see in episode 5.

fucking dick

[Izulde]

Thankfully I hit first reply and didn't see whatever the spoiler was.

but man, that was a majorly dickish thing to do jbmagic. Can a mod either delete or edit that post for him and whatever he quoted as a spoiler?

[wade moore]

Thankfully I hit first reply and didn't see whatever the spoiler was.

but man, that was a majorly dickish thing to do jbmagic. Can a mod either delete or edit that post for him and whatever he quoted as a spoiler?

He labeled it as spoiler.

But then he posted "i think..."

That is not a spoiler to me, so I kept on reading.

But then later he says it is a confirmed spoiler.

Not sure what to think, but stating "I think" is certainly speculation, not spoiler. But then later he says that it was confirmed.. *shrug*.. idano..

[Anthony]

whatever. he only revealed what the guy's power was. i had begun to agree with the "Rogue" power theory anyway since he was able to see the future (walking in the air on the roof with his brother) after seeing the artist with all those visions. plus his brother said he caught him and then he started to fly, too. but still, i woulda liked to have confirmed that by watching the show. i don't want many shows at all so when i find one i do like i don't want people fucking it up w/ spoilers (which are retarded anyway, see my previous post).

[Eaglesfan27]

Actually its a spoiler. TV Guide magazine confirm. You will see in episode 5.


Asswhite!

[Eaglesfan27]

He labeled it as spoiler.

But then he posted "i think..."

That is not a spoiler to me, so I kept on reading.

But then later he says it is a confirmed spoiler.

Not sure what to think, but stating "I think" is certainly speculation, not spoiler. But then later he says that it was confirmed.. *shrug*.. idano..


Exactly. I kept reading because I didn't think he understood what a spoiler was. That was messed up. I expect to read spoilers of what happened this past week in these threads, so I avoid them until I'm caught up with the DVR. I don't expect to read what is going to happen in 3 weeks according to TVguide.

[jbmagic]

fucking dick

I did say Spoiler alert in my post above.

[wade moore]

Exactly. I kept reading because I didn't think he understood what a spoiler was. That was messed up. I expect to read spoilers of what happened this past week in these threads, so I avoid them until I'm caught up with the DVR. I don't expect to read what is going to happen in 3 weeks according to TVguide.

*DING DING*... I do this with all of the TV threads. I ignore them until I catch up on my TiVO. I think people coming into this thread two days after it airs and whining about hearing what happened on the episode is dumb, but saying confirmed things that will happen is another.

As for what jb did.. it's a grey area.. because he said spoiler.. but honestly, I immediately saw "I think" and chalked it up, as you did, to him not understaning what a spoiler was...

[gkb]

Like HA mentioned, speculating about the show is part of the allure and spoilers suck. I thought his first post was just speculation and then he said it was confirmed in the TV Guide. Whatever...

Someone earlier mentioned about his dreams of flying before he actually flew. I wonder if that was a power he picked up from someone (maybe the artist's girlfriend) or if that one is innate...or if it was simply just a dream.

[jbmagic]

Not my faulut, If you guys didnt think I knew what a spoiler was.

You guys assume I didnt know.

Like I said I did put a spoiler alert in my post.

I am sorry.

[Draft Dodger]

I did say Spoiler alert in my post above.

spoiler alert:





jbmagic is a fucking dick

[wade moore]

Not my faulut, If you guys didnt think I knew what a spoiler was.

You guys assume I didnt know.

Like I said I did put a spoiler alert in my post.

I am sorry.

You seem to not know what a spoiler is, as it does not start with "i think..."

[Izulde]

Just as a heads up, for those who have seen the spoiler, could you try avoiding mentioning it until episode 5 airs?

I know that's common sense, but it'd be easy to slip I'm sure and I like this thread and would rather not have to avoid it until episode 5 :)

[Bee]

spoiler
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i think therfore i am

[jbmagic]

spoiler alert:





jbmagic is a fucking dick


How come you don't act like that when others have put spoilers alert in their post?

Just want to pick on me.

[Anthony]

spoiler alert regarding Heroes







i think when Hiro's friend shouted "Super Hiro", it was a play on words meant to also connotate "Super Hero".

[ISiddiqui]

Another problem with jbmagic's spoiler is he gave away the fucking EPISODE this thing was going to be revealed... dick. It was a shitty thing to do to say "spoiler" then "I think" making people believe that you didn't know what a spoiler was and then saying it was confirmed in TV Guide, but then to reveal the episode, without saying 'spoiler' in that post?! Bah!

[jbmagic]

Another problem with jbmagic's spoiler is he gave away the fucking EPISODE this thing was going to be revealed... dick. It was a shitty thing to do to say "spoiler" then "I think" making people believe that you didn't know what a spoiler was and then saying it was confirmed in TV Guide, but then to reveal the episode, without saying 'spoiler' in that post?! Bah!

If I said Spoiler Alert, Why the hell your even looking at the first sentence.

If you didnt want to look you would of skip it.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm trying to imagine what would have happened if jbmagic still had his edit button. I think it'd go something like this:

1. jbmagic makes the mistake.
2. People get mad at jbmagic.
3. jbmagic deletes his mistake.
4. jbmagic posts a reply saying "why you all mad at me".
5. jbmagic posts new thread asking why everyone hates him.
6. SkyDog takes away edit button and new thread button.

I think there would have been some comedy in this.

[Eaglesfan27]

If I said Spoiler Alert, Why the hell your even looking at the first sentence.

If you didnt want to look you would of skip it.


You say you are sorry, and then a few minutes later you sound anything but contrite..

[gottimd]

question, if I invisotext something as a spoiler, does that piss of people too? I've put Spoiler Alert then Inviso text it, so unless you go right to my spoiler alert word, and then highlight everything I typed, you can't see it.

Which in my mind, if I have told you that its a spoiler, and made it invisible (unless you directly highlight it), its ok.

[jbmagic]

You say you are sorry, and then a few minutes later you sound anything but contrite..

I am sorry.

I told them just drop it. It not going to happen again.

But some people like to keep pushing my buttons.

[wade moore]

question, if I invisotext something as a spoiler, does that piss of people too? I've put Spoiler Alert then Inviso text it, so unless you go right to my spoiler alert word, and then highlight everything I typed, you can't see it.

Which in my mind, if I have told you that its a spoiler, and made it invisible (unless you directly highlight it), its ok.

I think this is a very good way to handle it.

[rkmsuf]

Why would a sane person preface a spoiler with "I think" unless he's

a. insane

b. an asshole

c. trying to show off


pick one

[gottimd]

I think this is a very good way to handle it.
See post #64 in this thread. I think that is enough effort to not show those who don't want to read a spoiler, and if you do, then you have to highlight it to read.
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1263768&postcount=64

[Eaglesfan27]

I think this is a very good way to handle it.

"

[Izulde]

I think this is a very good way to handle it.

I agree. That way people who want spoilers can still see them, but the people who don't want to won't accidentally read it.

[sachmo71]

I am sorry.

I told them just drop it. It not going to happen again.

But some people like to keep pushing my buttons.

Impossible. All your buttons are belong to us.

[gottimd]

Boom goes the edit button!

[Bearcat729]

See post #64 in this thread. I think that is enough effort to not show those who don't want to read a spoiler, and if you do, then you have to highlight it to read.
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1263768&postcount=64

But this only works if you ue a light background. I like to use the sideline green background and could read that post just like it was any other one.

[TroyF]

I edited the spoilers away. Anyone who wants to know what the spoiler was, PM me and I will get it to you ASAP.

[gottimd]

But this only works if you ue a light background. I like to use the sideline green background and could read that post just like it was any other one.

Ah, damn good point. I assumed everyone used Yellow (or a majority) and you know what they say when you assume.

[Anthony]

Why would a sane person preface a spoiler with "I think" unless he's

a. insane

b. an asshole

c. trying to show off


pick one

is this one of those things where there's no right or wrong answer?

[Anthony]

Ah, damn good point. I assumed everyone used Yellow (or a majority) and you know what they say when you assume.


i use sideline green, too, thank you very much. don't treat me like a second class citizen like all those Werewolf people who were cast off into Never Never Land.

[gottimd]

put me in the iron maiden!

[kingfc22]

Is it safe to start reading this thread again? i started to see something about a spoiler and then people bitching about jbmagic (what else is new), but didn't read what the spoiler was.

[MikeVic]

Isn't it funny that Hiro is played by Franklyn from Scrubs (the blood/urine test doctor)?

[Crim]

Isn't it funny that Hiro is played by Franklyn from Scrubs (the blood/urine test doctor)?


Dammit, MikeVic, that's f'd up. Some of us hadn't read the credits yet, asswhite! Why can't you be more like jbmagic and put spoiler alerts in your post???

[Joe Canadian]

Heroes has been picked up for the whole season!

[MikeVic]

Dammit, MikeVic, that's f'd up. Some of us hadn't read the credits yet, asswhite! Why can't you be more like jbmagic and put spoiler alerts in your post???

LOL.

[KevinNU7]

So the Indian guy hasn't realized that all the code is jsut their to mask the symbol

[KevinNU7]

I'm confused.

Whose apartment did the India guy go into? I missed the connection

[gottimd]

I'm confused.

Whose apartment did the India guy go into? I missed the connection

Sylars.

[jeff061]

I think I'm gonna go buy a Nissan Versa. Not sure where that urge came from.

[gottimd]

Am I the only one who thinks this show gets better and better each episode?

[TRO]

Nope.

Actually, this show has reignited my interest in City of Heroes/Villains.

[Coop]

I wonder if that little girl has a power..

[Flasch186]

Am I the only one who thinks this show gets better and better each episode?

nope, lovin' it

[Easy Mac]

I didn't particularly like this episode. Didn't really add anything new. I mean, I guess we "saw" Syler, but meh. I guess they needed an episode to counteract the "cool we have powers" beginning episodes. In other words, this kind of began to tell there may be a downside to the powers (the brother's image, the "dead" girl, the blond not outrunning her past, the artist losing his girl, the mind reader being blocked...).

That being said, it seems as though the show is setting up all of them using their powers to defeat Syler, who seems to already have all of their powers. I guess its a metaphor for our own struggles for greatness, where it can only be achieved by the whole coming together and that they each have to defeat a part of themselves to form the greater good.... or something like that.

Just felt like a throwaway episode.

[Towelhead]

OK I'm about to watch episode 3. There better NOT be a scene where the artist draws a TV Guide cover with JB showing his "AssWhite." Yep. I Tivo'd this episode cuz I can't wait for the commercials to pass.

So?
So?
So?
Uh Huh. Thought so. Punk.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I didn't particularly like this episode. Didn't really add anything new. I mean, I guess we "saw" Syler, but meh.
We didn't really know, before now, that he was telekinetic. We maybe could have guessed, but we outright saw it in this one.

I guess they needed an episode to counteract the "cool we have powers" beginning episodes. In other words, this kind of began to tell there may be a downside to the powers (the brother's image, the "dead" girl, the blond not outrunning her past, the artist losing his girl, the mind reader being blocked...).
I don't think that was really what they were getting after. There was a lot of tablesetting and intermediate stuff (moving from point B to point C in the plot) in this episode, without any real payoffs.

Just felt like a throwaway episode.
I'm going to hazard a guess that parts of it are going to be very significant in the future, most likely involving Miss Vegas, the cop, and the Petrellis. The futurist, the cheerleader, and the Japanese dudes had their stories advanced without setting up any major mysteries (that I saw).

[Lorena]

I tried viewing last week's episode on NBC but keep getting a connection error, is there anywhere else I can view it?

Thanks in advance.

[jbmagic]

I tried viewing last week's episode on NBC but keep getting a connection error, is there anywhere else I can view it?

Thanks in advance.


Sci-fi channel replays Monday episode at 7/6C.

[Coop]

That's on friday btw. and stick around and watch Battlestar galactica at 9 :)

[Desnudo]

Cheerleader, good or evil? I think it's setting up like an X-Man movie, with the scientist's son as sort of a Dr. Xavier and Sylar as Magneto.

[Raiders Army]

Some thoughts:

Who was the black guy in the bar? He had a necklace with the symbol on it. My suspicion is that he's Ali Larter's husband who escaped from jail or he might be Sylar.

The more and more I think about it, I think only one of the Petrelli brothers can fly. I think the candidate is the one who can fly and the other brother can mimic powers that others possess when he's in close proximity. He had "visions" when he was near the artist, which we haven't seen since, and he could fly when he was near his brother.

The Asian storyline seems really cool.

We got some further insight into the cheerleader's powers...or rather, the extent of them. She can be killled on a temporary basis and it's not as if she has super strength. All she has is the ability to rapidly regenerate.

[gottimd]

Some thoughts:

Who was the black guy in the bar? He had a necklace with the symbol on it. My suspicion is that he's Ali Larter's husband who escaped from jail or he might be Sylar.
He is the cheerleaders father assistant or something.

Did Sylar teleport out of that situation? So he showed he had mind control powers, invinciblility, and teleportation or flight powers all in that scuffle?

I don't think the cheerleader is evil. In one of the previews a few weeks ago, Peter Petrelli said something like "we gotta save the cheerleader!", I thought. She probably awakes from the autopsy room, heals, and leaves and the town is after her like a modern day witch hunt.

Was it intentional to have the character named Peter Petrelli, like Peter Parker? I like how the kid was watching him attempt to fly had the superman red cape on.

[Draft Dodger]

this show IS getting better and better. I'm pleasantly surprised; I thought it was going to be a dog.

who was the chick at the bonfire the camera focused on after the cheerleader and the qb left for some alone time? was that just the qb's girlfriend?

and do you think there's something more to Hiro's friend? at first I thought he was just a secondary character to further hiro's story, but he seems like he has some importance himself now.

[gottimd]

this show IS getting better and better. I'm pleasantly surprised; I thought it was going to be a dog.

who was the chick at the bonfire the camera focused on after the cheerleader and the qb left for some alone time? was that just the qb's girlfriend?

and do you think there's something more to Hiro's friend? at first I thought he was just a secondary character to further hiro's story, but he seems like he has some importance himself now.

I would think the chick at the bonfire was a girl the QB previously raped. They focused on her to set the tone that something bad was going to happen, just like it happened to her (rape).

If you notice, each character has a "sidekick", like a superhero most of the time does. Or at least each of them has a person, whether their sidekick be normal or not remains to be seen.

Cheerleader- Either weirdo camera kid or maybe sympathetic girl who was raped before
Hiro- other japanese friend
Doppelganger/Ali Larter- Her son
Peter- Girl who he professed love to or his brother?
Cop- FBI Agent who doubted him?
Professors son- Little neighbor girl
Artist- maybe the ex who is drawn to peter? or someone we havent seen.

Even the cheerleaders father has that weird guy who we saw last night at the bar. Only person without one is Sylar, at least for now.

[gottimd]

I was telling my brother about the show and he wanted to know where you could watch episodes. It says online, and I go there and its a 5 minute clip. Is there another place besides Sci-Fi on a friday night to get episodes? Especially the first 2 episodes?

[Honolulu_Blue]

He is the cheerleaders father assistant or something.

Did Sylar teleport out of that situation? So he showed he had mind control powers, invinciblility, and teleportation or flight powers all in that scuffle?

I don't think the cheerleader is evil. In one of the previews a few weeks ago, Peter Petrelli said something like "we gotta save the cheerleader!", I thought. She probably awakes from the autopsy room, heals, and leaves and the town is after her like a modern day witch hunt.

Was it intentional to have the character named Peter Petrelli, like Peter Parker? I like how the kid was watching him attempt to fly had the superman red cape on.

The black guy at the bar was wearing that symbol and the cop couldn't read his mind at all. In the preview for next week it showed him working with the cheerleader's dad. My first thought was that he was Ali Larter's husband too, but it's possible he's not or it's possible he's all of those things.

Sylar. He did seem to show telekensis (and mind control too perhaps?), invulenerability, and either teleportation, super-speed or something like that. I figure what Sylar is doing is tracking down all of the other supers, killing them, and eating their brains (or portions of their brains). By doing this he some how gains their powers. So, with each super-brain he eats, he becomes more powerful. For example, the little girl is probably a super (which is why he went after her), her father was (brain eaten), but her mother wasn't (simply impaled on the wall). Perhaps his original power was the ability to locate/detect other supers. Then again, I could be way wrong...

I don't think the cheerleader is evil either. I think she's just a kid with super-powers trying to figure things out.

I am still digging the show. I dislike the doctor's "sidekick" immensely. Horrible actress, bad dialogue and some of the other dialogue is kinda "meh", but overall I'm enjoying it. I'd love to see a superhero show be successful on primetime.

[Raiders Army]

Sylar. He did seem to show telekensis (and mind control too perhaps?), invulenerability, and either teleportation, super-speed or something like that. I figure what Sylar is doing is tracking down all of the other supers, killing them, and eating their brains (or portions of their brains). By doing this he some how gains their powers. So, with each super-brain he eats, he becomes more powerful. For example, the little girl is probably a super (which is why he went after her), her father was (brain eaten), but her mother wasn't (simply impaled on the wall). Perhaps his original power was the ability to locate/detect other supers. Then again, I could be way wrong...
Nice. Didn't think of that. If this is true, then the storyline possibilities are endless. It sort of reminds me of Rising Stars by J. Michael Stracyzinski (sp?).

[Honolulu_Blue]

It sort of reminds me of Rising Stars by J. Michael Stracyzinski (sp?).

Exactly.

[gottimd]

Was it mentioned the brain was eaten or just stolen? I think we may be painting him as some sort of supernatural cannibal, but he may do testing on it.....or somebody is doing testing on the brain.

I curious to see how sylar came about. I know in episode one, the son discovered a tape labeled Sylar and some notes indicating his father thought Sylar was "Patient Zero". In the taped phone call, Sylar said in a threatening voice "You made me aware of my powers" and he does note an uncontrollable hunger (for brains? or just power?)

I wonder if the cheerleaders father, is an agent of a group who did government experimenting on humans DNA to "speed up" the process of evolution, sometime maybe in the 40-50's during the WWII. The project was scrapped and the subjects they tested on were acclimated back into society, creating families, and passing on their sometime unknown powers to their children, of which now are being hunted down? Again, this is all theory, no spoilers. Maybe I am reading way too into it.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Was it mentioned the brain was eaten or just stolen? I think we may be painting him as some sort of supernatural cannibal, but he may do testing on it.....or somebody is doing testing on the brain.

I curious to see how sylar came about. I know in episode one, the son discovered a tape labeled Sylar and some notes indicating his father thought Sylar was "Patient Zero". In the taped phone call, Sylar said in a threatening voice "You made me aware of my powers" and he does note an uncontrollable hunger (for brains? or just power?)

I wonder if the cheerleaders father, is an agent of a group who did government experimenting on humans DNA to "speed up" the process of evolution, sometime maybe in the 40-50's during the WWII. The project was scrapped and the subjects they tested on were acclimated back into society, creating families, and passing on their sometime unknown powers to their children, of which now are being hunted down? Again, this is all theory, no spoilers. Maybe I am reading way too into it.

I definitely see the cheerleader's father as part of some governmental agency there to study/follow/research the supers. That seems to make sense.

[Desnudo]

The black guy at the bar was wearing that symbol and the cop couldn't read his mind at all. In the preview for next week it showed him working with the cheerleader's dad. My first thought was that he was Ali Larter's husband too, but it's possible he's not or it's possible he's all of those things.

Sylar. He did seem to show telekensis (and mind control too perhaps?), invulenerability, and either teleportation, super-speed or something like that. I figure what Sylar is doing is tracking down all of the other supers, killing them, and eating their brains (or portions of their brains). By doing this he some how gains their powers. So, with each super-brain he eats, he becomes more powerful. For example, the little girl is probably a super (which is why he went after her), her father was (brain eaten), but her mother wasn't (simply impaled on the wall). Perhaps his original power was the ability to locate/detect other supers. Then again, I could be way wrong...

I don't think the cheerleader is evil either. I think she's just a kid with super-powers trying to figure things out.

I am still digging the show. I dislike the doctor's "sidekick" immensely. Horrible actress, bad dialogue and some of the other dialogue is kinda "meh", but overall I'm enjoying it. I'd love to see a superhero show be successful on primetime.

I don't think the cheerleader started out as evil, but the "tune in next time" scene last night indicates that may change. Although I suppose it could be an eye for an eye type thing.

[gottimd]

I don't think the cheerleader started out as evil, but the "tune in next time" scene last night indicates that may change. Although I suppose it could be an eye for an eye type thing.

Probably an eye for an eye. I assume, she will wake up and disappear from the morgue. And scare the crap out of everyone, and her small town will basically be on a witch hunt for her. Isaac, the painter, maybe sees that she is a good superhero, and paints that she is on the run from something (town, her father, sylar?), and they must help her.

I don't think she is evil at all.

[ISiddiqui]

Great episode, IMO. Far from being more cliched and 'stock', the show wants to add some depth to the characters, which can only be a good thing. Sylar seems to be a very interesting case. Telekinesis we know, could the percieved invulnerability be an offshot of telekinesis (ie, he realized the bullets were coming in too late, but was able to manipulate them so they didn't get too far inside of them) and has some ability to get away quickly.

The black dude at the bar looked creepy, but definately had super hero resistance juice or something. Maybe it was his amulet. Who knows.

I wonder how the cheerleader will be able to explain being fine after having her chest split open in autopsy? Seems like she gets back at QB rapist in the next episode.

[ISiddiqui]

Btw, may I add that I LOVE the fact that the writers are smart enough to realize that people from a country that has a different primary language than English are not going to be speaking English to each other most of the time :D.

It adds to the atmosphere... two Japanese 20 somethings SHOULD be speaking Japanese to each other.

Oh, and Hiro kicks ass!

[Anthony]

this show IS getting better and better. I'm pleasantly surprised; I thought it was going to be a dog.

who was the chick at the bonfire the camera focused on after the cheerleader and the qb left for some alone time? was that just the qb's girlfriend?

and do you think there's something more to Hiro's friend? at first I thought he was just a secondary character to further hiro's story, but he seems like he has some importance himself now.

i think since this is a show about "Heroes", he's merely playing the part of a "sidekick". if anything, Hiro is one of the more powerful heroes on the show (along with the cheerleader). teleportation, stopping time, moving into the past and future - pretty powerful.

and i guess Ali Larter's character's power isn't that much of a mystery - she's a Jeckyl and Hyde type.

i definitely think that black dude in the bar was DL. he might be a villain in the mold of Sylar (has powers). couldn't you tell he was able to block his thoughts, which is what first gave him away to the cop?

[Anthony]

i didn't think i was going to like Hiro at all, especially having to read subtitles, but i have to admit he's my favorite character on the show. i think Lost set the table for something like this - having a main plot (the nuclear bomb set to go offf) offset by individual storylines, utilizing people of different nationalities and cultures, having reoccuring themes (the Lost "numbers" and the Heroes "DNA symbol"). i don't feel like i'm watching a Lost knockoff though, Heroes seems to take the good parts about Lost and makes it cooler (since super heroes are a popular subject these days). what i don't like about Lost these days - even though it's one of the few shows i watch - is now the individual backstories seem to be taking me away from the main plot. they're starting to get in the way. i don't care anymore about what happened to the characters prior to the crash. to me the backstories were great in helping to highlight the personalities of the characters and in season two helping to show how they all had some type of connection - now i want the main storyline to start being advanced. i want to move forward with the story, not constantly be taken back in the past.

[Eaglesfan27]

The black guy at the bar was wearing that symbol and the cop couldn't read his mind at all. In the preview for next week it showed him working with the cheerleader's dad. My first thought was that he was Ali Larter's husband too, but it's possible he's not or it's possible he's all of those things.

Sylar. He did seem to show telekensis (and mind control too perhaps?), invulenerability, and either teleportation, super-speed or something like that. I figure what Sylar is doing is tracking down all of the other supers, killing them, and eating their brains (or portions of their brains). By doing this he some how gains their powers. So, with each super-brain he eats, he becomes more powerful. For example, the little girl is probably a super (which is why he went after her), her father was (brain eaten), but her mother wasn't (simply impaled on the wall). Perhaps his original power was the ability to locate/detect other supers. Then again, I could be way wrong...

I don't think the cheerleader is evil either. I think she's just a kid with super-powers trying to figure things out.

I am still digging the show. I dislike the doctor's "sidekick" immensely. Horrible actress, bad dialogue and some of the other dialogue is kinda "meh", but overall I'm enjoying it. I'd love to see a superhero show be successful on primetime.


Sums up my impressions from the show almost perfectly. I definitely think Sylar is killing heroes to take their powers.

[Izulde]

Is it just me or did that girl at the bonfire look somewhat like the cheerleader? It's probably a red herring, but it startled me when I saw it. I'm not sure what her relationships are in the network of characters, but I imagine it'll be developed.

The black guy in the bar is definitely DL, the stripper's husband and Micah's father in my opinion. The only question I have is what the hell he was doing wearing that DNA symbol necklace, which I also noticed.

I don't think he's Sylar though. Sylar looked taller and thinner than DL, so he's still a mystery.

The Hiro-Ano duo is easily my favorite part of the series and any time you get Japanese schoolgirls in an episode, it's good. :D

I also really, really like the neighbor chick. There's just something about her that really appeals to me. Maybe it's her voice.

The one guy I hate is Nathan. God what an effing pompous sleazeball, but he's also the perfect politician.

One question I have: Where exactly did the notebook come from after the laptop got thrown and why wasn't it noticed earlier? It didn't seem very clear from the camera angle.

[ISiddiqui]

What's with this eating brains theory? I mean, perhaps he could distill the powers from the brain and inject himself with it. Don't have to actually 'eat' the brain.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "DL" mean (when talking about the black dude)?

One question I have: Where exactly did the notebook come from after the laptop got thrown and why wasn't it noticed earlier? It didn't seem very clear from the camera angle.

It seemed to be jammed into the space where the laptop cards are supposed to go in. Though it seemed a bit big for that.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Izulde]

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "DL" mean (when talking about the black dude)?

DL is the name of the stripper's husband. It gets mentioned in the argument between Micah's grandmother and the stripper.

It seemed to be jammed into the space where the laptop cards are supposed to go in. Though it seemed a bit big for that.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Ahh! Good to know, thanks. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

What's with this eating brains theory? I mean, perhaps he could distill the powers from the brain and inject himself with it. Don't have to actually 'eat' the brain.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "DL" mean (when talking about the black dude)?



It seemed to be jammed into the space where the laptop cards are supposed to go in. Though it seemed a bit big for that.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

I think Nicole's husband's name (or at least nickname) is "DL." That's he's been referred to at least.

As for the braing eating thing, maybe he doesn't have to "eat it" per se, but that's just the way I like to talk about it (until we know for certain). It's my love for zombies (who do love to eat brains so very, very much) that's to blame.

[gottimd]

What's with this eating brains theory? I mean, perhaps he could distill the powers from the brain and inject himself with it. Don't have to actually 'eat' the brain.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does "DL" mean (when talking about the black dude)?

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:D DL is an actual name like DL Hughley, it doesn't stand for anything when we are using it, just referring to the strippers husband I think.

Damn, I got beat by 2 people to the answer, and I only answered 2 minutes after it was asked. I am getting slow.

[Raiders Army]

Eating brains eases the pain...or so I'm told.

[Shkspr]

It sort of reminds me of Rising Stars by J. Michael Stracyzinski (sp?).

I'm sure he'll be along any minute to claim that he pitched the idea to NBC first and deserves a producer's credit.

[Mr. Wednesday]

:rolleyes:

[Coop]

:D The black guy in the bar is definitely DL, the stripper's husband and Micah's father in my opinion. The only question I have is what the hell he was doing wearing that DNA symbol necklace, which I also noticed.

I don't think he's Sylar though. Sylar looked taller and thinner than DL, so he's still a mystery.
Might be a spoiler so dont look.. but


















he is suppose to have the ability to walk through walls. so i dont think he is sylar















Is Rising Stars good?

[Eaglesfan27]

Can you please put a bit larger spoiler space next time?

[WVUFAN]

Is Rising Stars good?

Yes.

[Towelhead]

OK, am I the only person who suspects that Sylar is the Professor? I want to see the Professor's cadaver before I start dismissing that idea. I mean, what the hell is the blood writing on his wall about, if all he did was point the cerebrucannibal to his next hero meals?

[Towelhead]

Hmm. This reminds me of that Spiderman cartoon episode from the 60's where the scientist that studies rainforest preservation turns into Killer Croc, or whatever the name was back then.

[wade moore]

OK, am I the only person who suspects that Sylar is the Professor? I want to see the Professor's cadaver before I start dismissing that idea. I mean, what the hell is the blood writing on his wall about, if all he did was point the cerebrucannibal to his next hero meals?

That was Sylar's apartment, not the professor's...