Ding, Dong, The Yankees are dead

[tucker rocky]

Time for George to go on another head-hunting spree.

[DaddyTorgo]

that's really hot.

money can't buy you everything i guess

[jeff061]

I think George has crossed into the realms of the senile. I don't think he's still capable of what earned him his reputation.

It'd be more fun to mock the Yankees right now if I wasn't a Red Sox fan. There's a catch-22 for you.

[CraigSca]

Does Torre leave and get replaced with Girardi?

[JeeberD]

Way to go Tigres!

[Logan]

Posada just hit a 2 run HR.

I hope to god this thread doesn't have to be deleted.

[Logan]

That guy who wanting a kiss from Leyland might've been the greatest thing I've ever seen.

[vtbub]

BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

My condolences to my friends who are Yankee fans,

[JeeberD]

Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played...

[sterlingice]

BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

I hate that braying jackass who calls Yankee games

SI

[Schmidty]

Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played...

WTF???

We fans (and the players) DESERVE to celebrate this. It's been 19 fucking years since we even made it to the playoffs. I hope the Tigers, and the fans, have a huge party tonight.

I only wish my trip hadn't been delayed until monday, so I could be there right now.....

[Warhammer]

There are few teams that I enjoy watching lose more than the Yankees, Tennessee football is the only thing that comes to mind.

[tucker rocky]

Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?

[Rizon]

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

[tucker rocky]

Is Detroit going to be the feel good team this season?

[Wasabiak]

I love sports. Look at Kenny Rogers.........That is what it's all about right there.

Sincerely,

A Twins fan

[sterlingice]

Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?

That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

[st.cronin]

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

Heck, I would even cheer Barry Bonds if he got a hit against the Yankees.

[tucker rocky]

That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

This is true.


Now I'm hoping for a really good series with the Tigers and A's.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

[tucker rocky]

Heck, I would even cheer Barry Bonds if he got a hit against the Yankees.

Maybe Bonds will become a Yankee, then you wouldn't need worrying about cheering.

[Greyroofoo]

I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan.

My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.

[tucker rocky]

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

Since child-rapists are the lowest-of-lows, I'd have to willing root for the Yankees.

[tucker rocky]

I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan.

My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.

Hopefully he'll be biased.

[Wasabiak]

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

Depends on where John Mark Karr is batting.

[SFL Cat]

How about a team of Mark Foleys?

[Wasabiak]

How about a team of Mark Foleys?

How about a team of catholic priests? I think I would root for the catholic priests..........

Booo Yankees.......Hoorey Jim Beam!!!!

[gottimd]

Nothing makes my day more than a Yankees loss. Ok, there are a lot of other things that would make my day better, but I sure as hell love it when they lose.

[Toddzilla]

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.If Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice wrangled up a team full of child molesters, I'd buy their jersey and wear it to Yankee Stadium to root against the Yankees.

[TroyF]

That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

You could make a case that this years Tigers team is built more outside the system than those Yankee championship teams. They did get players and sometimes stars to fill in. . . but Jeter, Pettite, Rivera, Williams, and Posada among others were homegrown players. And those made up a large majority of the core.

Still, there is no doubt to the answer to the question above. The Yankees will continue to try and raid other rosters. We've already heard about the Soriano speculation floating around. I'd be a large sum of cash that they'll spend big to upgrade the bullpen.

I don't care really, I'm just thrilled to see them lose.

[bulletsponge]

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while
http://www.smileyhut.com/laughing/rofl.gif

[TroyF]

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while
http://www.smileyhut.com/laughing/rofl.gif


The spin will be that he couldn't recover from ARod being a choker. It's going to be interesting to watch the NY media pummel ARod. They are going to blame one man for the "greatest lineup" in history failing miserably three games in a row.

[st.cronin]

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while
http://www.smileyhut.com/laughing/rofl.gif

Well, their big problem is they have Alex Rodriguez on their roster. As long as he's a Yankee, they ain't winning shit.

[st.cronin]

If Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice wrangled up a team full of child molesters, I'd buy their jersey and wear it to Yankee Stadium to root against the Yankees.

:D

I love this post.

[bulletsponge]

The spin will be that he couldn't recover from ARod being a choker. It's going to be interesting to watch the NY media pummel ARod. They are going to blame one man for the "greatest lineup" in history failing miserably three games in a row.

Well, their big problem is they have Alex Rodriguez on their roster. As long as he's a Yankee, they ain't winning shit.


wow it only took 1 post for Troys prediction to come true

[bosshogg23]

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

[DaddyTorgo]

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

bonderman too, right?

[bosshogg23]

bonderman too, right?

Nope, trade with the Oakland A's to get him. He and Carlos Pena and Franklyn German. Bonderman was a part of Moneyball by Michael Lewis. Oakland's owner didn't want to give him big dollar because of his(Bondermans) reading dyslexia.

[JeeberD]

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

Wasn't Inge once in the Astros organization?

[bosshogg23]

Wasn't Inge once in the Astros organization?

Only transaction listed by Baseball-Reference is

Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. Player signed June 27, 1998

He isn't Brad Ausmus or Doug Brocail or Todd Jones where they like to flip flop back and forth ;)

[spleen1015]

This makes is a successful baseball season.

The Curse of Mike Mussina continues!

[molson]

I'm pretty psyched for the Tigers fans who have been there all along - since '87 and '84 at least. This must be an amazing day.

[JeeberD]

Only transaction listed by Baseball-Reference is

Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. Player signed June 27, 1998

He isn't Brad Ausmus or Doug Brocail or Todd Jones where they like to flip flop back and forth ;)

I guess I got confused with all those damn trades... :D

[DeToxRox]

I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.

[bosshogg23]

I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.

Did you get to see Kenny Rogers spraying champagne on the fans? That was pretty awesome. He then gave the empty bottles to different fans.

[DeToxRox]

Did you get to see Kenny Rogers spraying champagne on the fans? That was pretty awesome. He then gave the empty bottles to different fans.

Yup. I stayed over an hour after the game ended. It was just insane. Seeing Grilli and Casey spray the fans with champaigne, seeing Zumaya run after a Horse with the bubbly. It was just so much fun.

[DaddyTorgo]

Nope, trade with the Oakland A's to get him. He and Carlos Pena and Franklyn German. Bonderman was a part of Moneyball by Michael Lewis. Oakland's owner didn't want to give him big dollar because of his(Bondermans) reading dyslexia.

but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?

[sterlingice]

I guess I got confused with all those damn trades... :D

So he's not part of the Padres, Tigers, Astros timeshare group? ;)

SI

[sterlingice]

wow it only took 1 post for Troys prediction to come true

Scary, huh?

SI

[bosshogg23]

but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?

I think he was in A Ball but im not positive.

I agree that homegrown can = players that achieve their first big league appearance with a club.

Most of the time homegrown = drafted players though. I think that kinda sucks because it discounts all trades teams make when they are selling near July 31.

[bulletsponge]

Scary, huh?

SI

yea. but ill represe my fears for joy knowing the Yanks choked again against another young underdog team :D

[k0ruptr]

I admit , I thought the tigers had ZERO chance to advance... but damned if they dont remind me of the whitesox last year, now I'm really rooting for them the rest of the playoffs for sure. GO TIGERS!

[k0ruptr]

dola. Oh and I'd root for anyone or anything when playing the yankees. A whole team of George Bush's even

[bosshogg23]

but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?

Just looked up his minor league stats with Oakland......

ERA 3.61, 1.27 WHIP, 9.95 K/9, 145 INGs in High A ball.

Poor kid really as thrown to the sharks going from that to the Major Leagues.

[DeToxRox]

It should be known that the A's didn't want Bonderman. He was Beans first pick, but he was just put in as GM and didn't scout like he wanted to yet. A scout picked him. Bean was furious and that pick lead to his new system. So he was an A's product but he wasn't wanted by them.

[Rizon]

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

I'd root for the ground to swallow up both teams into the fiery pits of hell. And all the fans, too.

[st.cronin]

If Mike Tyson was fighting Derek Jeter, I would root for Tyson.

[sterlingice]

My favorite for that type of outcome to that game is a tragic blimp accident :)

SI

[larrymcg421]

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

I don't watch intrasquad games.

[tucker rocky]

I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.


Was that you trying to steal a kiss from Leyland? :D

[Ryche]

Good to see the Tigers' season continue. Should be a hell of a series with the A's. Don't know who I'll be rooting for, but I'll definitely be watching.

[DeToxRox]

Was that you trying to steal a kiss from Leyland? :D

Haha if I could've I would've. Leyland is honestly probably the most popular sports figure in Detroit since Barry retired.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Haha if I could've I would've. Leyland is honestly probably the most popular sports figure in Detroit since Barry retired.

Two words: Steve. Yzerman.

Wow. The man's only been retired for a few months and he's already forgotten?

[DeToxRox]

Two words: Steve. Yzerman.

Wow. The man's only been retired for a few months and he's already forgotten?

I love Yzerman but the Wings at their height were never as popular as the Tigers are now. The most common sports people revere Leyland. I am as big a hockey fan as it gets and he came to mind but I'd say as far as sheer popularity Leyland is as big as it gets since Barry.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I love Yzerman but the Wings at their height were never as popular as the Tigers are now. The most common sports people revere Leyland. I am as big a hockey fan as it gets and he came to mind but I'd say as far as sheer popularity Leyland is as big as it gets since Barry.

I disagree with all of this. Leyland's only be here for one year. One. year. Yzerman has been in Detroit since 1983. He won three Stanley Cups. Leyland hasn't even won anything. Sure, the Tigers are bing, but to say the Wings were "never as popular as the Tigers are now" is just getting caught up in the moment. It will be a while before Leyland enters this discussion with iconic Detroit sports figures. He's way down on the list.

[Greyroofoo]

Gotta agree with HB

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't watch intrasquad games.

well played sir

[Izulde]

Enjoy this, Tigers fans. You're experiencing what we White Sox fans did last season and here's to hoping you'll have the same result. :)

[DeToxRox]

I disagree with all of this. Leyland's only be here for one year. One. year. Yzerman has been in Detroit since 1983. He won three Stanley Cups. Leyland hasn't even won anything. Sure, the Tigers are bing, but to say the Wings were "never as popular as the Tigers are now" is just getting caught up in the moment. It will be a while before Leyland enters this discussion with iconic Detroit sports figures. He's way down on the list.

I'm talking about right now. At the height of this right now he's bigger then Yzerman was. More people care about the Tigers. I'm not calling him a fixture in Detroit history. I am saying at this point in time the people here are more infatuated then Leyland then I can remember with Yzerman and I've been in this area during the Wings at their peak. Yzerman is still the class of Detroit sports icons but right now Leylands peak popularity as a whole is bigger then Yzermans.

[JS19]

Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?

Not to come to the Yanks defense, bc I am very happy they are out, but back when they were winning the Series they did it with their core being homegrown guys such as, Bernie, Petitte, Jeter, Posada, Rivera and filling the rest of the team with the right guys. I have never been that fan who gets pissed about how much the Yankees spend, those are the rules so more power to them, but back in the day the Yanks spent their money wisely, which in turn won them 4 championships in 5 yrs, but now they just seem to throw it to whoever has a monster yr and doesn't really fit with the team.