Has your favorite team in a given sport ever made just you lose all hope? [Archive]

JeeberD

02-11-2003, 05:27 PM

Umm, have ya'll ever hear of the UTEP Miners? They have had two winning season in the past 25 years. Every year we Miner fans think that we got the recruits who will turn everything around for us, but it never happens. This year's golden child is Carson Palmer's little brother, redshirt freshman Jordan Palmer. Due to UTEP tradition, I'm sure that he'll either tear both ACLs and break his throwing arm on the first down of the season, or he'll just suck because he plays for my Miners...

ACStrider

02-11-2003, 05:32 PM

The other teams that immediately come to mind would be the Cleveland Cavaliers and Arizona Cardinals. If you're talking about teams that can actually put out a decent team but will never fail to dissappoint when it counts...Boston Red Sox and Patrick Ewing era New York Knicks.

The Afoci

02-11-2003, 05:33 PM

Minnesota Golden Gopher Football baby, great team....all we recruit is running backs or recievers, screw every other position because we will run and catch, just not block, throw, or tackle. Go Gophers.

vtbub

02-11-2003, 05:34 PM

Bengals

kid_dynamite

02-11-2003, 05:34 PM

cubs fan here, sheesh

sometimes the bears look hopeless too

Noop

02-11-2003, 05:38 PM

Miami Dolphins, Miami Heat and the Orlando Magic damn those teams piss me the F off how sorry they play in the playoffs or not making the playoffs.

noop

klayman

02-11-2003, 05:45 PM

Cubs...Liverpool this year as well :(

Chief Rum

02-11-2003, 06:38 PM

The Angels...oh wait...

Chief Rum

McSweeny

02-11-2003, 06:41 PM

red sox baby! and this is the year!

DeToxRox

02-11-2003, 06:44 PM

Lions and Tigers..

Yet I will always be a fan!

tucker342

02-11-2003, 06:44 PM

Iowa mens basketball, no matter how good they are they never break through(last year).

tucker342

02-11-2003, 06:46 PM

dola

McSweeny,
isn't that what Red Sox fans say every year?;)

Draft Dodger

02-11-2003, 06:46 PM

I would love to be a huge Cowboy fan again, but I have a severe allergy to tuna that I just don't think I can overcome.

It was bad enough watching Jerry Jones bumble away as a GM, now I have to see Parcells smirking along the sidelines? Nope.

ice4277

02-11-2003, 06:48 PM

Detoit..............Lions........nuff said

sterlingice

02-11-2003, 06:49 PM

Bengals and Cubs fans come to mind.
I disagree- every year I can delude myself into thinking that getting rid of Hundley for Karros and Grudzelanek (or however you spell his name) or whatever boneheaded move can at least help the team.

But I can't do that here in KC. At least for the Cubs, there is a universe where they could win it all. Granted hell is frozen over and Kerry Wood and Mark Prior both win 25 and strike out 300; Sosa hits 80 homers, etc- it's unlikely but there is a remote chance of that happening. But there is absolutely no chance of the Royals doing that and even if all of their young pitchers catch fire, they still make .500, maybe.

SI

Travis

02-11-2003, 06:49 PM

I'd say the Seahawks, but we're going to do something next year.

Maybe even something productive.

Masked

02-11-2003, 07:21 PM

New Orleans Saints

Finally win a playoff game after 33 years and follow-up with the two of the most heartbreaking seasons in their history. Worse than the Rams making a last second field goal to snatch the last playoff spot in 83.

stkelly52

02-11-2003, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Travis
I'd say the Seahawks, but we're going to do something next year.

Maybe even something productive.

It seems like each season I have hope that the Seahawks will be able to make something happen. and each year my dreams com crashing down.

Also I remeber all those years chearing for the Mariners back in the 80s, (ever been to a game where the players outnumbered the fans?)

Vince

02-11-2003, 07:29 PM

I would say the Golden State Warriors...but Arenas, Richardson, Murphy and Jamison are making me drool...give us a year or two (if we can hold on to the talent), and we'll be going places. But I'm not holding out too much hope...

Noble_Platypus

02-11-2003, 07:35 PM

My Colts are bad too. They give you just a bit of hope, then:41-0
Sheesh

Maple Leafs

02-11-2003, 07:55 PM

Bbor, you want to take this one or should I?

Flame Eater

02-11-2003, 07:59 PM

IU still plays football? Wow! WTF!

Flame Eater

02-11-2003, 08:00 PM

dola -

I thought they sacked the program after Lee Corso left!

02-11-2003, 08:02 PM

New Orleans Aints.

Mustang

02-11-2003, 08:05 PM

Brewers

ColtCrazy

02-11-2003, 08:32 PM

Here, here on IU football.

Also with the Colts. I just don't see them getting over the hump in Indy.

Bengals too.

Crystal Palace in soccer. They pull a HUGE upset on Liverpool, but will find a way to lose a playoff game in the first division I'm sure.
:(

bbor

02-11-2003, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Maple Leafs
Bbor, you want to take this one or should I?

ROTF :D

1967...Nuff said....

astralhaze

02-11-2003, 09:34 PM

Cubs, Seahawks, and Knicks. I don't even know how I get out of bed most mornings.

Noble_Platypus

02-11-2003, 09:36 PM

thank goodness for ESPN classic, huh? Oh well, our glory years were almost 40 years ago too.

mckerney

02-11-2003, 09:49 PM

University of Minnesota Football

Can't recruit instate and have a terrible stadium. Able to get the best player from St. Louis, but can't land one of the top 3 instate players.

At least the basketball team has a chance. Once the NCAA probation is over they'll get back to cheating again and be back in the Final Four in no time.

All other favorite teams give plenty of hope though, so I suppose I can't really complain. Vikings on the way up with Tice at the helm, Twins will only get better, Wild are the perfect model for an NHL franchise, Wolves have one of the top 5 players in the game who may take them past the first round some day.

sterlingice

02-11-2003, 09:53 PM

Hey, did you enjoy us sending our crooked coach up there to the great white north? There's a reason he was run out of town and we had to suffer through Terry Allen, who was a good man but a bad recruiter/coach/coordinator/and now taxi driver or whatever. That said, I'd rather have 5 more years of Allen than one more year of Mason. I'll take a clean program over a corrupt decent one any day. Then again, there is no reason why a school can't have a clean and pretty good program and that's all we ask for here.

SI

mckerney

02-11-2003, 10:00 PM

If only there were some way to get rid of Mason. The whole stadium issue hurts the program, but you'd think the man would be able to do something. His best year here was with a senior class that was brought in by his predecessor, and it's been all downhill since then. I don't think the U will ever come close to winning the Big 10 with him there.

U of M had a corrupt plus losing program a few years ago. The womens basketball coach got fired for quite a few NCAA rules violations a few years ago, and the team had won 3 big ten games over the last 5 years or something.

What is it with girls? If guys cheat, at least they win and have something to show for it.

Go-Buckeyes

02-11-2003, 10:19 PM

I love my Browns, I watched Tim Couch grow up, practically. Leslie County High School, University of Kentucky, and the Browns.

Brian Sipe and the original Cardiac Kids, Bernie Kosar and the fumbles with Kevin Mack. Now watching this team come "this" close this past season. No matter what, I'll follow them and love them for all the excitement thier games have provided.

jerem77

02-11-2003, 10:21 PM

My favorite Teams:
Chicago Cubs
Phoenix Suns
Kansas City Chiefs
Iowa Hawkeyes

Aside from the Hawkeyes winning consistently in wrestling, all of these teams raise my hopes and then smash them. The Chiefs many playoff losses, Suns vs Bulls, Cubs on Opening Day, etc.

mrushh

02-11-2003, 10:48 PM

Hey, people. Raised in Ft. Worth, live in Dallas. I have 2 words for y'all.....Texas Rangers.

Doug5984

02-11-2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Masked
New Orleans Saints

Finally win a playoff game after 33 years and follow-up with the two of the most heartbreaking seasons in their history. Worse than the Rams making a last second field goal to snatch the last playoff spot in 83.

ditto

cuervo72

02-12-2003, 07:20 AM

How about a collective vote for all the teams from Philly....they each have their moments, but no championships since '83, and that was only the Sixers (no, I won't count the Major Indoor Lacross League, or the USFL).

Maple Leafs

02-12-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by bbor
1967...Nuff said.... The thing is, I'm getting to the age where the possibility is starting to dawn on me that maybe I won't see a Leafs Cup in my lifetime. I always just assumed I would, but now I think about all the Red Sox and Cubs fan who probably thought the same thing at my age... in the 1940s.

scooper

02-12-2003, 08:40 AM

Nobody can match the Bengals fans in this category. Oddly enough, we are a dedicated group to a fault. A sickening, disturbing fault. We keep coming back for more. So to answer your question, no. I have not given up hope. Woo Hoo! Spikes is tagged! Go Marvin!

The Afoci

02-12-2003, 08:49 AM

mckerney, Mason is a joke as head coach. I don't think there is a coach at any other school that big that obviously doesn't wanna be there. The year Ohio State cam calling, he pretty much quit recruiting, needless to say that recruiting class was great. And there is nothing better than watching college football at 10 in the morning with a few of your closest friends in the "metrodome/good seats still/always available.

And about Monson, for a guy who could recruit guards to gonzaga of all schools, his recruiting of pg/sg here has been horrible. now i haven't played HS ball in 5 years and even then i wasn't good, but i am still waiting for an offer because i think i could complete with kevin burleson sp?.

At least the women got kelly roysland out of fosston. that girl will take the nation by storm. She is simple unbelievable to watch.

go gophers.

Easy Mac

02-12-2003, 09:14 AM

Well, my FU basketball team returned 4 starting seniors, and was picked to win the conference and make the NCAA's. We're currently 7-16, pretty close to last place.

And my Braves consistently seem to be moving that way with moves that make no sense baseball-wise. Millwood for Estrada? Mortaging the team for Maddux? Mike-I-look-like-i'm-wearing-a-pound-of-makeup Hampton? Paul-contract-year Byrd? Jason-never-live-up-to-potential Marquis? Bobby-can't-win-in-the-playoffs Cox?

Cards4ever

02-12-2003, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by The Afoci
mckerney, Mason is a joke as head coach. I don't think there is a coach at any other school that big that obviously doesn't wanna be there. The year Ohio State cam calling, he pretty much quit recruiting, needless to say that recruiting class was great. And there is nothing better than watching college football at 10 in the morning with a few of your closest friends in the "metrodome/good seats still/always available.

And about Monson, for a guy who could recruit guards to gonzaga of all schools, his recruiting of pg/sg here has been horrible. now i haven't played HS ball in 5 years and even then i wasn't good, but i am still waiting for an offer because i think i could complete with kevin burleson sp?.

At least the women got kelly roysland out of fosston. that girl will take the nation by storm. She is simple unbelievable to watch.

go gophers.

It's easy to criticize the U, but are you guys buying tickets? Supporting the team in anyway besides watching on tv? It's a sad state of affairs where the hockey(and basketball) program has to carry the load for a big time athletic program. I've supported the hockey team for a long time and there was nothing sweeter than finally getting to the top last year, but there is nothing worse than the bandwagon fans we have in this state that do nothing but bitch.

You want a new stadium? Fill the one you are playing at now, and playing at for basically peanuts. If a team is winning in Minnesota, it would draw 100,000 in a Kmart parking lot, if the team is not, it wouldn't draw 10,000 in the most beautiful stadium in the world, indoors or outdoors.

Recruits have no interest in playing here because there is no support for the football team. Support the team, fill the dome, put pressure on the coach to upgrade the schedule, then start worrying about new on-campus outdoor stadiums.

WussGawd

02-12-2003, 09:56 AM

Phoenix has a few teams like this.

For pure, stink up the joint year after year, I'd have to say the Arizona Crudinals. Several years ago, when they were trying to blackmail the area into building them a new stadium by threatening a move to El Lay (a town that would never have been stupid enough to want them), I was offering to help pack the moving vans.

As for teams in the get so close to greatness they break your heart mold (like the Red Sox, for example), I think the Phoenix Suns are a fine example. This team's two most famous games are losses...everybody remembers the '76 finals, and the Gar Heard shot heard round the world, but the Suns lost that game. Ditto game 6 of the finals in 1993 against the Bulls.

:(

The Afoci

02-12-2003, 10:00 AM

Cards4ever,

I live in fargo, but my best friend goes to the U. I attend about 2 or 3 football games and a few more basketball games. basketball attendance is great, i also assume hockey is as well (i am not a hockey fan), but football is horrible. I attend as much as work and travel allows me, but why would anyone go to the dome when there is no atmosphere. no one even tries. they should have more tailgaiting, mason should be more public. I just think that for football to succeed, mason will have to pump up the program to the public, not refuse interviews, not refuse to go on to the local sports station and discuss the recruits they brought in. he does maybe 2 functions a year for the public. He barely even tries to get people excited about the program.

Marc Vaughan

02-12-2003, 10:07 AM

Hang in there .... things will get better.

My soccer team (Brighton) used to be a fairly fashionable old first division (equivalent to todays Premier League) team, over the space of 10 years they fell down into the lowest professional division possible, nearly went bankrupt, sold their ground and were finally rescued from bankruptcy by a chap who bought them for the princely sum of £1 (plus agreeing to take over numerous debts accrued by the club).

Since this takeover things have looked up for us and we've now risen to Division 1 (just below todays Premiership) and might even get a ground of our own one day (we currently have 'loaned' an athletics stadium off the local council).

All together now ...

"When the ball hits the goal, its not Shearer or Scholes its Zamora ......"

;)

Cards4ever

02-12-2003, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by The Afoci
Cards4ever,

I live in fargo, but my best friend goes to the U. I attend about 2 or 3 football games and a few more basketball games. basketball attendance is great, i also assume hockey is as well (i am not a hockey fan), but football is horrible. I attend as much as work and travel allows me, but why would anyone go to the dome when there is no atmosphere. no one even tries. they should have more tailgaiting, mason should be more public. I just think that for football to succeed, mason will have to pump up the program to the public, not refuse interviews, not refuse to go on to the local sports station and discuss the recruits they brought in. he does maybe 2 functions a year for the public. He barely even tries to get people excited about the program.

Mason is on KFAN during the season quite often, and he was on last week talking about his recruits. The football program also had something at their practice facility on signing day where Mason talked about and showed films of the players they signed.

A valid of criticism of Mason is his scheduling, that I can buy into. But the PR thing I think is not valid.

As I said before, the same thing was said about the dome when the Twins were lousy, then they start winning and they talk about how loud it is in there and what a great atmosphere. I think the Twins deserve a new stadium, but the Vikings and Gophers should stay in the dome unless they want to pay for a new stadium on their own.

SplitPersonality1

02-12-2003, 11:00 AM

Minnesota Vikings - bring back Bud Grant
Milwaukee Brewers - bring back Molly, Gantner & Yount
Milwaukee Bucks - bring back Moncrief, Robertson or Alcindor
Boston Red Sox - bring back Ruth

:sigh:

bbor

02-12-2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Maple Leafs
The thing is, I'm getting to the age where the possibility is starting to dawn on me that maybe I won't see a Leafs Cup in my lifetime. I always just assumed I would, but now I think about all the Red Sox and Cubs fan who probably thought the same thing at my age... in the 1940s.

Sigh....i am afraid you are correct ML....i am fearfull of this also...I guess we have to be happy with the fact that we got to see the Blue Jays win a championship..

And hey...we can always look forward to the Roadrunners

:D

The Afoci

02-12-2003, 11:29 AM

Mason maybe does alright in the cities, although the fan does complain about how hard it is to get him on, but if you look at most successful programs, they reach out into the state. Fargo radio stations constantly are trying to get him on for a short interview, he denies them. Now if he wants to recruit better in state maybe he should shop himself to the public better in state.

Travis

02-12-2003, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by bbor
And hey...we can always look forward to the Roadrunners

:D

Only because they will be the Oiler's farm team ;)

condors

02-12-2003, 11:38 AM

i was a philadelphia fury fan and the league folded!

Kodos

02-12-2003, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by WussGawd
game 6 of the finals in 1993 against the Bulls.

:(

That was one of the most devastating losses in sports history for me. My heart just sank when he made that shot... :(

JeeberD

02-12-2003, 01:20 PM

Houston Astros

Even this year they're toying with my emotions. Overjoyed at the Kent signing. Worried about Carlos Hernandez being out for the season. Happy that they resigned Biggio and won't have to worry about his contract during the season. I know there's gotta be another down coming soon...

Airhog

02-12-2003, 01:28 PM

Why do people even root for the bengals?

primelord

02-12-2003, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Maple Leafs
The thing is, I'm getting to the age where the possibility is starting to dawn on me that maybe I won't see a Leafs Cup in my lifetime. I always just assumed I would, but now I think about all the Red Sox and Cubs fan who probably thought the same thing at my age... in the 1940s.

Or even worse all the Cubs fans who have been waiting for a championship since 1908. Hehe. Almost 100 years with no world championship. Now that is impressive. :)

primelord

02-12-2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by JeeberD
Houston Astros

Even this year they're toying with my emotions. Overjoyed at the Kent signing. Worried about Carlos Hernandez being out for the season. Happy that they resigned Biggio and won't have to worry about his contract during the season. I know there's gotta be another down coming soon...

Don't even worry about it. They stand no shot against the Cardinals anyway.

bbor

02-12-2003, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Travis
Only because they will be the Oiler's farm team ;)

I got no problem with that...I love to watch Oilers games...run and gun is awesome hockey.h

Blade

02-12-2003, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by bbor
I got no problem with that...I love to watch Oilers games...run and gun is awesome hockey.h

When we play it! The Oilers pride themselves on run and gun...but MacTavish has had them playing Trap every now and then...pretty disgusting...

mckerney

02-12-2003, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by The Afoci
mckerney, Mason is a joke as head coach. I don't think there is a coach at any other school that big that obviously doesn't wanna be there. The year Ohio State cam calling, he pretty much quit recruiting, needless to say that recruiting class was great. And there is nothing better than watching college football at 10 in the morning with a few of your closest friends in the "metrodome/good seats still/always available.

And about Monson, for a guy who could recruit guards to gonzaga of all schools, his recruiting of pg/sg here has been horrible. now i haven't played HS ball in 5 years and even then i wasn't good, but i am still waiting for an offer because i think i could complete with kevin burleson sp?.

At least the women got kelly roysland out of fosston. that girl will take the nation by storm. She is simple unbelievable to watch.

go gophers.

Well said. One of the worst things Mason did was a few years ago when he was up for the Ohio State job, pretty much campaigning for it while recruiting was going on, then shortly after he didn't get it he comes out and says he wishes he had taken the job with Georgia. Good luck getting players to come when you openly admit you don't wanna be there.

As far as Monson goes, I'll cut him some slack if the gophers get a tourney berth, the guy did get Rickert away from Arizona.

mckerney

02-12-2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Airhog
Why do people even root for the bengals?

I think an analogy to indiana basketball could help here. There was once a question posed to someone involved with Indiana Hoosiers basketball who was asked "Why are there so many Purdue fans?" The response, "Well, a lot of people can't afford Final Four tickets."

Originally posted by SplitPersonality1
Minnesota Vikings - bring back Bud Grant

Give Tice a chance, I think he'll turn them around rather quickly.

Qwikshot

02-12-2003, 04:17 PM

The Eagles, so close, but so far away
The Flyers, spend only to choke
The Sixers, always on the cusp, this year they just suck
The Phillies, they finally splurge, we'll see if it produces wins...

primelord

02-12-2003, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Qwikshot
The Phillies, they finally splurge, we'll see if it produces wins...

It won't.

Qwikshot

02-12-2003, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by primelord
It won't.

Actually, I think they'll be better than the Mets, they will be competitive with Atlanta, the Marlins are young and will wear down, and Montreal is talented but has to deal with outside concerns (firesale potential). So they have a chance like anyone in that division.

condors

02-12-2003, 04:49 PM

i think we need more bullpen help qwikshot

Karim

02-12-2003, 05:25 PM

1967...Nuff said....

At least you guys have a perenial playoff team that's worth watching. Once you're in, you never know what can happen and it's not like the Leafs are long shots.

Calgary Flames ... worst run team in hockey the last seven years. But you're right, thank God I was alive and conscious to see the late eighties, early nineties.

bbor

02-12-2003, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by Karim
At least you guys have a perenial playoff team that's worth watching. Once you're in, you never know what can happen and it's not like the Leafs are long shots.

Calgary Flames ... worst run team in hockey the last seven years. But you're right, thank God I was alive and conscious to see the late eighties, early nineties.

Karim...with Sutter there the Flames will be going in the right direction in no time.

As long as they don't amke a trade with Cliff Fletcher :D

ACStrider

02-13-2003, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by WussGawd
Phoenix has a few teams like this.

As for teams in the get so close to greatness they break your heart mold (like the Red Sox, for example), I think the Phoenix Suns are a fine example. This team's two most famous games are losses...everybody remembers the '76 finals, and the Gar Heard shot heard round the world, but the Suns lost that game. Ditto game 6 of the finals in 1993 against the Bulls.

:(

My favorite NBA highlight of all time was from a Sun. At a crucial moment in their series against the Houston Rockets (the Rockets went on to win I believe) with the game on the line, Kevin Johnson...a point guard for Phoenix...REJECTED an open DUNK by Hakeem Olajuwon...a shoe-in HOF center!!! :eek: