College football: Rivalry week discussion (spoilers possible)

[Craptacular]

Well, Pitt is off and running in their effort to start another BCS shakeup week ... 81-yd TD drive to open things up.

[Craptacular]

This is gonna be a fun game. WVU marched down the field to tie it at 7, and Pitt just ran the kickoff back to WVU's 34.

[ISiddiqui]

Pat White is a BEAST. That is all.

[Swaggs]

I love watching Dave Wanstedt's "I just pooped my pants" look after every touchdown.

[digamma]

Yuck Fale.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6427/264/320/Yuck%20Fale%20Anon.jpg

[Jaguars]

Go Gators! (rivalry week is next week for us.)

RIP Bo.

[Wolfpack]

Go to Hell, Carolina! Go State!

(such as it is this year *sigh*)

[Greyroofoo]

I would give almost anything to be in Toledo for the Michigan/Ohio State game.

Alas, I'm cursed and I have to be in Alabama where people actually think the Alabama/Auburn game is important.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii has a big game as well. not a rivalry game tho.

8-2 Warriors vs the 6-3 San Jose St. Spartans.

[Jaguars]

I would give almost anything to be in Toledo for the Michigan/Ohio State game.

Alas, I'm cursed and I have to be in Alabama where people actually think the Alabama/Auburn game is important.

Alabama is the only place the game matters this year. That being said I'd love to see it live.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Not sure whether this thread is going to be the one for all results/comments this week, but ... BC leads Maryland 14-0, courtesy of two fumble returns for TD's in the first five minutes of the game.

[Craptacular]

Three minutes in, and BC is already up on Maryland 14-0. The same guy has returned two fumbles for TDs.

edit: jinx!

[Craptacular]

Not sure whether this thread is going to be the one for all results/comments this week,

That was my intention originally ... I changed the title to reflect that.

[General Mike]

Go to hell Professor William Dowling.

[Craptacular]

Good thing the Badger - Buffalo game is not on TV other than ESPNU. In the first quarter, there was a lost fumble, a muffed pitch, an INT, a FG that hit the crossbar, a blocked FG, and the teams combined to go 0-5 on third down.

[Greyroofoo]

Penn State should stop turning the ball over.

[Craptacular]

The first successful 3rd (or 4th) down conversion of the game came when the QB fumbled the snap, picked it up, and ran ahead for the 1st. I feel sorry for the fans in Madison.

[Craptacular]

The Badgers sound like a high school team. They forced Buffalo to punt, then the damn returner doesn't tell his guys to get out the way on a short punt, it bounces off a Badgers foot, and is recovered by Buffalo. First play bomb down the middle to the 3.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee 6-0 over Vandy after one quarter.
Ainge 9-for-11 so far.

[Craptacular]

I think the entire stadium (teams included) are sleeping. Buffalo shanks a 25-yd FG, and the Badgers have to take a time out because their offense wasn't ready to play. OK, I'm done ranting. The Badgers have no right to complain about rankings if they play like this.

[cartman]

BC is puttin' a whuppin' on Maryland. 28-3 at halftime.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee leads Vandy 13-7 just under two minutes left in the first half.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT vs Duke starts in true to form fashion:

1-10-GATECH20 (14:54) Reggie Ball was intercepted. John Talley returned the interception for 8 yards.

Thankfully, this is Duke. They missed a subsequent FG try.

edit to add: Next possession, all on the ground as Choice gets five carries for 80 yards & a TD. 7-0 GT with 9 mins left in Q1.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Vols lead Vandy 19-7 at the half.

Elsewhere, Florida is doing very bad things to Western Carolina early in Q3, it's 41-0 Gators. Leak is 9/12 for 100 yds & a TD, Tebow is 5/5 for 78 yds passing + 5 rushes for 33 yds & 2 TD's.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Vols 29-7 over Vandy late in the 3rd qtr after Coker rips off an 88 yd run for a TD.

GT is 21-0 over Duke, TD passes from Ball to Johnson (Calvin) and Johnson (James).

And that Florida whipping continues, now 62-0 over W.Carolina. Tebow with career high 10/12 for 200 yds & 2 TD's (plus 2 more rushing TD's).

edit to add: Make it 28-0 GT, another Ball to C.Johnson TD following a Duke fumble inside their own 30.

[MJ4H]

80 yard interception return for a touchdown and Arkansas leads Mississippi State 7-0 late in the first quarter.

[MJ4H]

65 yard run up the gut answers back for MSU. Sigh. 7-6 pending PAT.

[DaddyTorgo]

BC is wayy up...38-16 (and the 16 is because they have had their backups in since midway through the 3rd so MD got a TD)

[MJ4H]

McFadden scores on the ensuing kickoff. Wow. This is crazy.

[k0ruptr]

Has anyteam Collapsed worse then the Iowa Hawkeyes this year? didn't they have like a #9 ranking or something? LOL

[MylesKnight]

Catching the end of the PSU/MSU game. Question on Penn State, where is their band? Music and Sound Effects?? The band is a piece of what makes the college environment... This sounds more like a NFL kind of place. Strange.

[kingfc22]

Notre Dame looks BCS worthy:rolleyes:

[John Galt]

Has anyteam Collapsed worse then the Iowa Hawkeyes this year? didn't they have like a #9 ranking or something? LOL

:(

[k0ruptr]

I hope Brady Quinn continues his suckiness, and Troy Smith has a horrible day.

[mauchow]

I doubt ND will lose(DUH) but I hope Army at least keeps it close so we can laugh at 'em.

[mauchow]

TD ND.

[k0ruptr]

Good Purdue won. they will be 8-4 now before they get destroyed by Hawaii next week.

[mauchow]

If Purdue for whatever reason wins that game, that will give Wisconsin a Top 25 win :)

[k0ruptr]

no chance. lol

[MJ4H]

MSU picks a pass off deep in Arkansas territory and puts it into the endzone. 14-14 now in the 2nd q.

[SirFozzie]

BC is wayy up...38-16 (and the 16 is because they have had their backups in since midway through the 3rd so MD got a TD)


Yup, makes me wonder how the season woulda turned out if not for that one NCState drive.. but another good win, if they can win against Miamimidweek they should be heading to a New Year's Day Bowl

[Greyroofoo]

mmmm, Ohio State wins the toss.....

[kingfc22]

Let's Go Blue!

[MJ4H]

Arkansas scores on a 30+ yd TD pass with less than a minute to go in the half and its 21-14 late in the 2nd.

[Greyroofoo]

Go Michigan :)

[mauchow]

Good start for Michigan so far...

[kingfc22]

Super Mario is toasting the secondary right now.

[Greyroofoo]

TD MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mauchow]

That was quick. Touchdown Wolverines. Very nice passes and catches and runs all around. Time to go pick up my pizza, baby.

[DeToxRox]

Chad Henne was in the zone that drive. Let's see him keep it up.

[Scoobz0202]

Ha.... " It looks like Troy Smith will have to do it again.. Come back in the 4th quarter. "

12:32 or so left in the 1st quarter.

[Greyroofoo]

Ha.... " It looks like Troy Smith will have to do it again.. Come back in the 4th quarter. "

12:32 or so left in the 1st quarter.

well, that is his MO, the announcer said so.

[Greyroofoo]

Troy Smith sacked!

[DaddyTorgo]

GO BLUE!

(mom and dad went there for grad school)

[kingfc22]

Somebody make a play on 3rd down.

[Buccaneer]

Very entertaining game so far. Very different than the OSU/UM games I used to watch in the 70s.

[Craptacular]

So, was that TD run more yards than Michigan has given up all season?

[bhlloy]

Damn I wish that kid had come to USC. Ever since I saw his high school tapes I've been telling anyone who will listen he's the next great NFL back - you do not see many 230 pounders with his moves and speed.

[mauchow]

What a retard, Henne.. C'mon man.

[mauchow]

Wow, that's a big call for Michigan.

[HerRealName]

Welcome to the Ohio State - Michigan game folks. More BS to follow I'm sure.

[cthomer5000]

Are they kidding with that penalty? Can we just agree to play two-hand touch?

[cthomer5000]

What a retard, Henne.. C'mon man.

On a play like that there is no penalty for intentional grounding. There should be an additional 15 yards marked off from the spot of the foul along with the loss of down.

[MJ4H]

Trick play after a strong drive by Arkansas and its 28-14 Arkansas nearing end of 3rd quarter.

[Galaxy]

Michigan needs to finish plays and play smart.

[Galaxy]

Are they kidding with that penalty? Can we just agree to play two-hand touch?

If it's the rule, then it should be called.

[Craptacular]

Damn, OSU Is smokin' right now.

[mauchow]

That was cool. Running to the line as if going to run it up the middle... bam.

I guess as a Badgers fan, we would want at least one of these teams to get blown out that way we can sneak in. I'd rather have tOSU losing but I'll take it the other way around as long as everyone forgets Wisconsin lost to Michigan. :)

[Joe]

good to see musberger get faked out. "powering ahead!!" haha

[kingfc22]

Man, big play after big play against the UM defense.

[Raiders Army]

Big penalty on the punt against OSU.

[mauchow]

That was a heckuva run by Hart right there.. wow wow

[robbgmaier3]

fuckin' brent pussybooger

[mauchow]

Easily a penalty.

[HerRealName]

Another shitty fucking penalty. Keep 'em in it refs.

[robbgmaier3]

and people rag on wvu having no defense....

[kingfc22]

TD!!!

[Craptacular]

Big drive by Michigan, or it could have gotten ugly.

[Galaxy]

Another shitty fucking penalty. Keep 'em in it refs.

Eh, that was a penalty, if the ball was in the air.

Man, the Michigan players seem either tired, or just lack the heart.

[mauchow]

28-14, 20 seconds left

[robbgmaier3]

i wonder when brent will suggest that michigan is just emotionally exhausted from Bo's passing. shall we start a pool? I've got 12:10 to go in the 3rd qtr

[HerRealName]

Eh, that was a penalty, if the ball was in the air.

Man, the Michigan players seem either tired, or just lack the heart.

Did that ball look remotely catchable even if it was in the air? I'd love to hear an unbiased opinion.

[cartman]

HerRealName doesn't like any calls that go against OSU. Refer back to the Texas-OSU game for more proof.

[Galaxy]

i wonder when brent will suggest that michigan is just emotionally exhausted from Bo's passing. shall we start a pool? I've got 12:10 to go in the 3rd qtr

LOL.

[JPhillips]

I'm a big OSU fan and it sure looked like a penalty to me. It may not have been catchable, but it was close enough and so flagrant that it had to be called. It was a poor play by the CB.

[MJ4H]

Arkansas wins 28-14 and wins the SEC Western Division Championship outright. Arkansas will play LSU on Friday and then Florida in Atlanta to close the season. Two wins in those two games and who knows what could happen, but it will involve the letters B, C, and S.

[Galaxy]

HerRealName doesn't like any calls that go against OSU. Refer back to the Texas-OSU game for more proof.

I like how HerRealName calls for an "unbiased" opinion.

Anyways, Michigan needs to start making the adjustments defensively.

[cartman]

Arkansas wins 28-14 and wins the SEC Western Division Championship outright. Arkansas will play LSU on Friday and then Florida in Atlanta to close the season. Two wins in those two games and who knows what could happen, but it will involve the letters B, C, and S.

If they win one of those two they will still be heading to a BCS bowl.

[Joe]

what are these announcers talking about, cal-usc almost as important as osu-michigan?

[HerRealName]

HerRealName doesn't like any calls that go against OSU. Refer back to the Texas-OSU game for more proof.

The helmet to helmet against Jay Richardson on Colt McCoy? I'd actually suggest going back to last year's Michigan game. I'm sure I had a complaint or two about delay of games that didn't get called.

[timmynausea]

what are these announcers talking about, cal-usc almost as important as osu-michigan?

It's almost as if they are going overboard trying to hype a game.

[Galaxy]

It's almost as if they are going overboard trying to hype a game.

Yeap.

[Galaxy]

Go Blue!

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. Quite the interception. This game really has been a very exciting game to watch despite having no vested interest in who wins it.

[Eaglesfan27]

what are these announcers talking about, cal-usc almost as important as osu-michigan?


Well if USC wins out, it is almost certain they will face the winner of the OSU-Michigan game.

[Galaxy]

Well if USC wins out, it is almost certain they will face the winner of the OSU-Michigan game.

True, but USC still has three very tough games left to play.

[MJ4H]

Well if USC wins out, it is almost certain they will face the winner of the OSU-Michigan game.

(go cal)

[robbgmaier3]

1st and 2nd drives of the game michigan scored. nice brent you goof

[Celeval]

Wow. Quite the interception. This game really has been a very exciting game to watch despite having no vested interest in who wins it.

This is basically how I feel about it.


Hey JonInMiddleGA - no complaints about Ball today, right? :)

[cthomer5000]

How many years does a coach need to coach before he can correctly identify, in advance, that he is going to be willing to go for it on 4th down?

Michigan went for it on 4th and 10 from the 35 yard line. That's fine with me, but what baffles me is the sequence of plays that makes no attempt to pick up a few yards thereby expanding your 4th down options, or just maybe putting you into field goal position so you dont have to go for it on 4th down.

I mean, if it was 4th and 2 from the 27, they probably try a 44 yard field goal.

I genuinely think it only occurs to most coaches on 4th down that they are all of the sudden willing to go for it on 4th, making their 2nd and 3rd down play-calling lousy in retrospect.

If I can see the situation coming 2 plays in advance while watching live, why can't someone with some influence on the coaching staff see it? This scenario plays out a number of times every single weekend on the college and pro level. My #1 pet peeve.

[DaddyTorgo]

if ohio state keeps giving michigan chances like this they're going to lose the game...

[mauchow]

Did you see that move by Ginn? Hahh..

[Galaxy]

Where was Henne throwing that 3rd down pass?

I'm suprised they don't let Hart grind it out more, or at least adopt a play-action pass more often.

[kingfc22]

Damnit. What a stupid ass personal foul. :mad:

[Galaxy]

Nice. Good call.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

this is just a damn good game...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Hey JonInMiddleGA - no complaints about Ball today, right? :)

Apparently you missed my first post in this thread ;)

[cthomer5000]

Well, for those who want a rematch in the national title game (i am not one of them), I think a Michigan loss by 3 on the road is about as perfect a setup as you could get.

[WVUFAN]

Well, for those who want a rematch in the national title game (i am not one of them), I think a Michigan loss by 3 on the road is about as perfect a setup as you could get.

Me either. There shouldn't be a rematch. Give another team a shot at the title.

[timmynausea]

no rematch pls k thx

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Oh well... That was just a great game, played by two excellent football teams. Ohio State was simply the better team today. Congradulations to them.

I believe this loss is nothing to hang your head over. It is a loss to a better team with a QB that will win the Heisman Trophy (and deserves it.) The consolation prise will be a trip to the Rose Bowl, which, I still regard as an excellent way to end the season in any season. Hopefully, Michigan gets USC...

NO REMATCH!!! OHIO STATE WON...

[Galaxy]

Me either. There shouldn't be a rematch. Give another team a shot at the title.

What if USC, ND, Arkansas, Rutgers, and Florida fall (which is very possible)? Who has the argument to be the second best team then?

[cmp]

Now, Notre Dame just better not get to play for the title.

[RedKingGold]

If USC wins tonight, next week becomes National Championship: Part II

[cartman]

What if USC, ND, Arkansas, Rutgers, and Florida fall (which is very possible)? Who has the argument to be the second best team then?

We have a poll for which 2 loss team deserves a shot at the title...

:D

[cmp]

If USC wins tonight, next week becomes National Championship: Part II

If Notre Dame wins next week, I still don't feel they deserve a shot at the title.

[cougarfreak]

How ridiculous is it that the natl. championship isn't played for 7 1/2 weeks? It would be nice if a playoff started in a couple of weeks with the top 8 or 16 teams.

[rowech]

Here's the ranking for order of shot at OSU:

1. USC
2. Florida
3. Arkansas
4. Michigan
5. ND
6. Rutgers

If a team ahead of you loses, move one step forward. I just have such a hard time saying one of those other teams with one loss, who wins their conference, doesn't deserve a shot. ND MUST BE BEHIND MICHIGAN in the pecking order.

[Galaxy]

If Notre Dame wins next week, I still don't feel they deserve a shot at the title.

Not after getting a heading by Michigan. I'm against a re-match, but I do think Michigan has a very fair argument for the second-best team in the nation.

I think they should adapt a four-game "semi-finals".

[Vegas Vic]

Me either. There shouldn't be a rematch. Give another team a shot at the title.

Suppose USC beats Cal and loses to Notre Dame? Would you want to "give" a Notre Dame team that got their asses handed to them by Michigan (in South Bend) a shot at the title? I thought the goal was to select the two best teams to play in the national championship game. If the consortium of human and computer pollsters determine that Ohio State and Michigan are the two best teams, I don't have a problem with them playing again in Glendale.

[Mantle2600]

Oh well... That was just a great game, played by two excellent football teams. Ohio State was simply the better team today. Congradulations to them.

I believe this loss is nothing to hang your head over. It is a loss to a better team with a QB that will win the Heisman Trophy (and deserves it.) The consolation prise will be a trip to the Rose Bowl, which, I still regard as an excellent way to end the season in any season. Hopefully, Michigan gets USC...

NO REMATCH!!! OHIO STATE WON...

DAMN YOU BLUE!!!

I'f i'm not mistaken, did'nt you blow up after last years game, I can't remember.

Anyways I was hoping you would do it again, but I gotta say you just gained a little respect from me for not doing so. This being OSU-UM, and me being an OSU fan, that's really hard to say. My friggin emotions were running high that second half, and if we lost, I know I would'nt have even come on this board I would have been so upset. Good post. Great game.

[Celeval]

Suppose USC beats Cal and loses to Notre Dame? Would you want to "give" a Notre Dame team that got their asses handed to them by Michigan (in South Bend) a shot at the title? I thought the goal was to select the two best teams to play in the national championship game. If the consortium of human and computer pollsters determine that Ohio State and Michigan are the two best teams, I don't have a problem with them playing again in Glendale.

Without a playoff, I don't feel a team who doesn't win their conference should be playing for the National Championship. Felt the same about Oklahoma a few years ago.

[cmp]

Being a Michigan fan, I'd love to see rematch, especially because I consider Michigan the second best team in the country. But if USC were to win out, I'd be perfectly fine with them getting their shot or Florida too. But I feel Michigan should get their shot before Notre Dame or Arkansas. I feel it should be down to USC, Florida, and Michigan.

[JS19]

That Codley, or whateever his name is, douchebag almost cost me a good deal of money. Either way, Michigan is OK in my book.

I don't follow college football all too closely, just watch the big games. And I also don't get it, if Michigan and Ohio State are the 2 best teams in the country at seasons end, why not a rematch?

[JeeberD]

Fucking Miners suck.

That's all I gotta say in this thread.

[Buccaneer]

Fucking Miners suck.

That's all I gotta say in this thread.


We said that at the beginning of the season but you didn't want to hear it.

[Young Drachma]

Wyoming is bowl eligible after knocking off UNLV. Not bad for a season where they were supposed to be a lot worse, losing almost all of their good players from last season.

Considering they were a missed extra point away from 2 OT against UVa., and should've took Boise State close here at home, I wonder how next year will go.

[Galaxy]

Without a playoff, I don't feel a team who doesn't win their conference should be playing for the National Championship. Felt the same about Oklahoma a few years ago.

But does a playoff really solve anything, say if Michigan beats Ohio State? Would it truly determine who's "better"? It's not like the NFL or the NBA, where you got a small, pretty equal pool of teams that play each other.

Also, what about Notre Dame, since they aren't part of a conference? What about those conferences who have the advantage of a Conference title game?

It's a sticky situation with no system that would truly determine a champion.

[JHandley]

Another Michigan fan adding a congrats to Ohio State. That's easily the best team in the nation. They were the better team today and deserved what they got.

I'm still not sure where I land on the rematch issue. I would say if these two teams played 10 times, Ohio State would win 7 times. The problem is, these are also clearly the two best teams in the nation.

ND got DA-Rilled at home, by Michigan, and so we're going to make them #2 ahead of Michigan? USC has struggled all year. Squeaked by UW, Wash St and Arizona St. If you want to claim to be #2 in the nation, you don't barely win those games and you sure as shit don't lose to Oregon State. Arkansas and Florida, even Rutgers have a better arguement than USC and ND.

[Joe]

But does a playoff really solve anything, say if Michigan beats Ohio State? Would it truly determine who's "better"? It's not like the NFL or the NBA, where you got a small, pretty equal pool of teams that play each other.

Also, what about Notre Dame, since they aren't part of a conference?

It's a sticky situation with no system that would truly determine a champion.

that's easy to solve. since notre dame won't win their conference, they should not play for the national championship.

[RedKingGold]

I'm just glad Penn State won, as they will likely now play in the Outback Bowl.

Although they're going to get pasted by whomever they play from the SEC, I'm just happy that I'll get to see them play on New Year's Day.

[rowech]

Being a Michigan fan, I'd love to see rematch, especially because I consider Michigan the second best team in the country. But if USC were to win out, I'd be perfectly fine with them getting their shot or Florida too. But I feel Michigan should get their shot before Notre Dame or Arkansas. I feel it should be down to USC, Florida, and Michigan.

If you're okay with Florida playing, and Arkansas beats LSU and then Florida in the SEC title game, how could you not be alright with Arkansas playing for the title? Their only loss, in a tough conference, would be to a team you also feel worth of the shot in USC.

[kingnebwsu]

OSU almost gave the game away. What a game by both teams.

As far as the title picture, I say let's see how things play out. I'm not gonna get too hyped up about that yet. I hate the BcS, so I'm hoping Rutgers wins out and then misses out on the championship game.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I'm still not sure where I land on the rematch issue. I would say if these two teams played 10 times, Ohio State would win 7 times. The problem is, these are also clearly the two best teams in the nation.

ND got DA-Rilled at home, by Michigan, and so we're going to make them #2 ahead of Michigan? USC has struggled all year. Squeaked by UW, Wash St and Arizona St. If you want to claim to be #2 in the nation, you don't barely win those games and you sure as shit don't lose to Oregon State. Arkansas and Florida, even Rutgers have a better arguement than USC and ND.

With the rematch issue, I think if Michigan won there would have been a better case for a rematch. Since Ohio State was #1 and will remain #1, another top contender should get a shot. Michigan has had their chance. Is Michigan the second best team in the nation? Probably. So if Ohio State wins the championship game and Michigan wins the Rose Bowl, guess what the final standings look like?

[TazFTW]

I hate Paul Maguire.

[TazFTW]

Cincinnati up 17-0 on Rutgers. :eek:

[Young Drachma]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

ok, seriously boys. this is too big a deal to come out flat like this. schiano needs to get them doing something.

[JeeberD]

Rutgirls is struggling BAD...

[General Mike]

Keep CHOPPING!

[cmp]

If you're okay with Florida playing, and Arkansas beats LSU and then Florida in the SEC title game, how could you not be alright with Arkansas playing for the title? Their only loss, in a tough conference, would be to a team you also feel worth of the shot in USC.

The 50-14 margin of victory makes me feel there not worthy of a shot.

[mauchow]

Sheesh.. three decent ball games on tonight at the same time.. Fun fun fun.

[cthomer5000]

Bad playcalling + Bad QB = looking like shit

[Eaglesfan27]

Great play by Lawrence Jackson. I saw that fumble happening a second or two before it happened. Glad USC recovered.

[mauchow]

Rutgers season has just possibly been SAVED..

A fumble with 12 seconds to go, giving them a shot at some points before halftime...

[Young Drachma]

The only good thing about this is, he can get them in there at halftime and cook up whatever he made last week against Louisville.

[Young Drachma]

That said, when are they going to recruit a better QB than Teel. Rice can't do it alone and Leonard won't be there next year.

[cthomer5000]

Teel power!~

[General Mike]

Craig Ver Steeg needs to go at the end of this season. Some of the most mindboggling play calls ever.

[mauchow]

Well, that was stupid.

[Young Drachma]

Wow. My timing was impeccable.

[cthomer5000]

Craig Ver Steeg needs to go at the end of this season. Some of the most mindboggling play calls ever.

Yeah, i'm sure there were some "make sure you throw it directly to the DB" direction included with that playcall.

[Young Drachma]

Forget wood, they need to chop down an entire forest.

[BYU 14]

BYU rolls New Mexico today, and I am stoked for the Holy War this coming weekend, nothing would top off the Season for me better than a sound thrashing of the Team up North!!!

Go Cougars

[General Mike]

Yeah, i'm sure there were some "make sure you throw it directly to the DB" direction included with that playcall.

I'm not talking about that specifically. These fake and then try to screen plays are just ridiculous. Why has Clark Harris completely dissapeared from the offense? If you don't trust him to catch the ball, than play Sam Johnson who is a much better blocker.

[mauchow]

Wait a second... Ole Miss is beating LSU?

What the hell?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Meanwhile, it's Ole Miss 14-7 over LSU with about 6 minutes left in the first half.

[JonInMiddleGA]

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20061119/D8LFRMI80.html
1 Dead, 1 Hurt in Kan. Fan Bus Accident
Nov 18, 9:02 PM (ET)

LAWRENCE, Kan. (AP) - One person was killed and another critically injured in an accident involving a bus carrying Kansas State University fans to Saturday's football game at the University of Kansas, police said.

The one-vehicle accident occurred around 11:30 a.m. less than two miles from Memorial Stadium. Few details were available by late afternoon, and police would not identify the dead and injured except to say both were male.

Lawrence police Sgt. Paul Fellers confirmed that both were passengers on the "Cat Tracker," a retrofitted school bus that takes Wildcat fans to games but is not affiliated with the university.

The injured fan was taken to University of Kansas Medical Center, where he was in critical condition.

Hospital spokesman Dennis McCulloch said the fan was being treated for a head injury and that his identity would not be released Saturday.

"The family understands the public's interest in his condition but requests prayers and privacy," McCulloch said.

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn. Just FALL on the ball.

[mauchow]

I hear all these people(not so much here) talking about how bad the defenses were in "THE GAME"; why? Those defenses are a heckuva lot better than what I'm watching in the Cal/USC game. The corners in the Pac-10 are just bad. The score says its a defensive battle, which it is, but I would bet quite a bit that it will be a completely different story in the second half.

[mauchow]

Cinci continues to pwn Rutgers...

[Young Drachma]

You have GOT to be kidding me.

[JonInMiddleGA]

1-10-RUT 48 (11:02) Mike Teel was intercepted. Mike Mickens returned the interception for no gain.

[mauchow]

ooh boy

cinderella story Rutgers almost done.. 70 yard screen pass to the 5 yard line for natti

[Young Drachma]

It's as if someone sent Corey Bramlet, who single handedly torpedoed Wyoming's season last year as QB to Rutgers to destroy theirs.

[General Mike]

What an awful night.

[Young Drachma]

I've been afraid of this since the end of last week's game.

[JeeberD]

Holy crap, that was amazing!

[mauchow]

That sack was freakin' awesome by Rutgers!!!!!


The showed a great view of it all the way.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Meanwhile, Va Tech is blowing up Wake Forest 24-6 with 7 mins left to play.

And Ole Miss still leads LSU 14-7, early in the 3rd qtr, and the Rebels are driving at the start of the 2nd half.

[mauchow]

Ole Miss driving on LSU, 14-7 still, third quarter.

[JonInMiddleGA]

LOL, jinx again ;)

[mauchow]

17-7 Ole Miss over LSU

[mauchow]

Cinci CB doesn't come up with the early christmas gift..

Sheesh, Rutgers need a QB.

[Young Drachma]

Hopefully, some recruits are sitting at home realizing that they are the missing link and signs with RU.

[Young Drachma]

And I'd still rather see them lose and get out of this national title debate and win their bowl game at the end of the season, rather than get torpedoed by someone in the end. It'd have been nice to even get into the national title debate, but...a Hollywood script would imply a one-time ascent to the national stage. I think that sustaining it would be better and it's not as if this team wasn't flawed.

Still, bleh. What a freakin' way to go out.

[mauchow]

TOUCHDOWN CINCINATTI!

This one IS OVER!

[Celeval]

That was horrible tackling. Rutgers might be done.

[RendeR]

So much for the Cinderella story, The bearcats just burned that dream to ashes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

LSU cuts the Ole Miss lead to 17-10. 5:26 left in the 3rd.

Va Tech handles Wake pretty easily, 27-6 is the final.

[mauchow]

Wow, nothing going right for Rutgers.

[mauchow]

LSU cuts the Ole Miss lead to 17-10. 5:26 left in the 3rd.

Va Tech handles Wake pretty easily, 27-6 is the final.

My screen says otherwise.....

[JonInMiddleGA]

2-10-CIN39 (1:40) Mike Teel was intercepted. Anthony Williams returned the interception for 4 yards.

[cthomer5000]

Mike Teel, baby.

[mauchow]

Amazing.. Badgers could jump three spots in the BCS.

Get a good performance in the Capital One Bowl and we could be #4 by season's end! What a turnaround after starting the season at #33.

[cthomer5000]

I think we can still come back, we just need more Mike Teel, more dropped passes, and definitely more 3 yard pass routes when in 3rd and 7 situations.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ole Miss answers with a 45 yd FG, now 20-10 Rebels with 1:06 left in Q3.

[mauchow]

Ole Miss answers with a 45 yd FG, now 20-10 Rebels with 1:06 left in Q3.

Why does it say 20-7 on every single sports website?

[Galaxy]

All I got to say is this could be the wildest, most exciting season I can remember in a long time.

As far the rematch, it's happen with Florida-Florida State, correct?

[cthomer5000]

I think this actually surpasses losing to Villanova at home to my lowest moment in Rutgers football history. It's not the loss, it's the fact that Cincinnati is absolutely destroying them. And Mike Teel needs to be drawn and quartered.

[Izulde]

YES!!!

Wyoming won!!!!

Pokes are bowl-eligible!!!!

What I wouldn't give to still be going there right now... but since I'm not, I'll head out and represent anyway with a few :friday:

[General Mike]

I think this actually surpasses losing to Villanova at home to my lowest moment in Rutgers football history. It's not the loss, it's the fact that Cincinnati is absolutely destroying them. And Mike Teel needs to be drawn and quartered.

Well New Hampshire in 2004 was a much worse loss. The way they lost to West Virginia in 2001 is also worse.

Teel is horrible. He has the worst tunnel vision by a QB I've ever seen.

[Young Drachma]

I think this actually surpasses losing to Villanova at home to my lowest moment in Rutgers football history. It's not the loss, it's the fact that Cincinnati is absolutely destroying them. And Mike Teel needs to be drawn and quartered.

Glad I'm not the only one who wants Teel tarred and feathered. We are a colonial college after all.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Why does it say 20-7 on every single sports website?

I dunno ... 'cause now it says that on cbssportsline too.

Looks like they had, at some point, credited LSU with making the FG that they actually missed (I guess)

Here's from their p-b-p log.

[i]1-10-MS34 (8:33) Trindon Holliday rushed for 1 yard.
2-9-MS33 (7:36) Alley Broussard rushed for 2 yards.
3-9-MS31 (7:10) JaMarcus Russell passed incomplete.
4-9-MS31 (7:02) Colt David made a field goal of 48 yards.
MS 17 LSU 10, Plays: 10 Yards: 0 Possession: 05:10.

[Young Drachma]

Putting things in perspective though, a 9-1 Rutgers that should beat Syracuse to go 10-1 and still has a shot at respectability with a win over West Virginia, isn't exactly shades of 0-11 or something.

No, they won't win a national title or get a shot at it. But then, no one thought that was going to happen anyway. I think losing now is good. Gets all the national media attention off of them, Schiano worried me when he was doing all of those interviews anyway this past week and gets them focused on what they've been doing all year prior to this -- chopping wood.

I'm just happy they'll play in a bowl this year against someone other than Arizona State. Rose Bowl anyone?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Dola -- it's even still in their scoring summary ... right below the scoreboard which now shows 20-7.

SCORING SUMMARY
1st Quarter
None
2nd Quarter
TD Dwayne Bowe, 14 Yd pass from JaMarcus Russell (Colt David kick is good), 13:55. Drive: 6 plays, 34 yards in 12:43.
TD Bruce Hall, 20 Yd pass from Brent Schaeffer (Joshua Shene kick is good), 6:57. Drive: 12 plays, 20 yards in 06:42.
TD BenJarvus Green-Ellis, 2 Yd run (Andy Keen kick is good), 6:57. Drive: 13 plays, 35 yards in 6:08.
3rd Quarter
FG Joshua Shene 37 Yd, 12:41. Drive: 5 plays, 23 yards in 01:59.
FG Colt David 48 Yd, 7:02.
FG Joshua Shene 45 Yd, 1:06. Drive: 10 plays, 4 yards in 05:56.

[mauchow]

I dunno ... 'cause now it says that on cbssportsline too.

Looks like they had, at some point, credited LSU with making the FG that they actually missed (I guess)

Here's from their p-b-p log.

Just making sure. I didn't know if you were watching it live or not..

I know they attempted a field goal and I know websites make lots of mistakes with their live updates.

Go Ole Miss anyhow.

[cthomer5000]

I'm just happy they'll play in a bowl this year against someone other than Arizona State. Rose Bowl anyone?

Who? Rutgers? We're going to back in some backwoods bowl, especially if Notre Dame does not grab a BCS slot.

[General Mike]

Who? Rutgers? We're going to back in some backwoods bowl, especially if Notre Dame does not grab a BCS slot.

Either El Paso vs a Pac Ten team or Houston vs a Big Twelve or at-large. There is no way in hell Notre Dame doesn't get a BCS bid.

[Buccaneer]

In following the RUT/CIN on GameCenter, how come I keep seeing Teel completing passes for 0 yds or -1 yds and then a Rutgers penalty?

[cthomer5000]

In following the RUT/CIN on GameCenter, how come I keep seeing Teel completing passes for 0 yds or -1 yds and then a Rutgers penalty?

Seems to be the playcalling tonight. Very heavy emphasis on pass routes in the 0-3 yard range, and I'm not talking screen passes.

The other area of emphasis is throwing interceptions, and Teel is excelling there.

[JonInMiddleGA]

(If cbssportsline hasn't screwed it up) ... LSU cuts the lead to 20-14, Russell passing the Tigers right down the field. Now 8:46 left to play.

[General Mike]

In following the RUT/CIN on GameCenter, how come I keep seeing Teel completing passes for 0 yds or -1 yds and then a Rutgers penalty?

I don't know.

[JeeberD]

Why not turn on the TV and find out for yourself, Bucc?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Booty to Jarrett, TD Trojans.

[Buccaneer]

Why not turn on the TV and find out for yourself, Bucc?

My wife is watching something and I'm playing Civ while checking up on the scores. You got a problem with that?

[General Mike]

razor to wrists, death Mike.

[Eaglesfan27]

Booty to Jarrett! TD!!! 16-9. These announcers who are saying USC doesn't look good enough to be #2 in the polls are forgetting that Cal is a very good team (that I believe only lost last week due to overlooking their opponent while looking ahead to USC.) They didn't seem to forget this when hyping this game earlier..

[JonInMiddleGA]

LSU stuffs Ole Miss, gets the ball at midfield after a punt.

A little more than 7 mins left, Rebels still lead 20-14.

[JeeberD]

My wife is watching something and I'm playing Civ while checking up on the scores. You got a problem with that?

One TV households...how quaint. ;)

No, no problem. Just curious why you aren't watching the game when you're obviously interested in it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

LSU completed a pair of passes to get down to the Ole Miss 35, but then it was 2 incompletes and a Russell fumble (I'm guessing a sack?) recovered by the Tigers but for an 18 yd loss.

Rebels lead 20-14, with the ball at their own 20 after a punt.
Ellis runs for 13 yds on 1st down, now just 4:20 left to play.

[Buccaneer]

One TV households...how quaint. ;)

No, no problem. Just curious why you aren't watching the game when you're obviously interested in it.

I'm interested in all three games going on now, which makes GameCenter so cool. Besides, you should recall that I *hate* watching TV, except to catch glimpses of actual stuff between all of the commercials. ;)

[JonInMiddleGA]

LSU defense stiffens, forces a short punt of just 29 yards, will try to rally starting at their own 41 with just 2:17 left to play.

Russell scrambles for 17 on 1st down.
Complete to Bowe for 9 yds, down to the Ole Miss 35.
Still 20-14 Rebels, with 1:39 left, after a huge sack back to the 41. Now 3rd down.
20 yd completion down to the 21, good for a 1st down.
Incomplete, 2nd & 10, 1:23 left.
Complete for 4 yds, 3rd & 6, 1:17 left from the 17 yd line. LSU takes their last TO.
Russell runs down to the 6.
Incomplete, 2nd & goal from the 6. less than :30 left
Incomplete, 3rd & goal from the 6. less than :20 left
Incomplete, 4th & goal from the 6. less than :18 left

TD LSU - Russell to Bowe

[mauchow]

According to GameCast, LSU has 3rd and 8 with 1:39 left in the game.. they're sitting on the 41 yard line of Ole Miss. Certainly some big plays coming up after they return from a timeout.

USC Touchdown. This one is close to being over.

[Eaglesfan27]

Booty to Smith! TD!!! 23-9.

[mauchow]

1st down LSU, 21 yard line they sit on.. still over a minute to play.

If LSU pulls this one out.. ugh

[mauchow]

1st and Goal for LSU, :46 left.

[mauchow]

2nd and Goal, :27 left

[mauchow]

Another incomplete pass, :21 left, 3rd and Goal

[mauchow]

4th Down for LSU, last play of the game... assuming no penalties happen

[mauchow]

Touchdown LSU. Pending Extra Point, this one is over.

:14 left for Ole Miss. Damn.

[GoldenEagle]

Sweet!

[General Mike]

LSU misses the PAT. Looks like OT.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Did they just ... ???

edit to add: I'll be damned.

edit to add: C'mon Rebels, run the kick back or something.

[mauchow]

OMG! Extra Point BLOCKED in LSU land!

[General Mike]

Schaeffer fumbles in OT.

[mauchow]

Bah..

[Swaggs]

I hate you, Rutgers. :(

[JonInMiddleGA]

Friggin' Schaeffer

[General Mike]

LSU wins 23-20.

[MJ4H]

I hated pulling for LSU but their win keeps our potential sos up so I had to. I have to take a shower now.

[TazFTW]

Hawaii up on San Jose 10-0 halfway through the first.

[k0ruptr]

thanks taz :) that was a pretty throw.

[k0ruptr]

13-7 Hawaii over San Jose St. midway through 2

[Vegas Vic]

And now we're down to the obligatory koruptr play by play of the Hawaii game. ;)

[miami_fan]

Rather nice to have a live game on at 11pm local to watch. ASU has been terrible in the red zone and are down 14-12 to UCLA.

[k0ruptr]

And now we're down to the obligatory koruptr play by play of the Hawaii game. ;)

LOL... ya know I been trying to tone it down..

[MacroGuru]

BYU has quietly brought themselves back this season with a Top 25 ranking, destruction of every crappy ass team in the Mountain West....

Although, I wish they would have pulled their heads out against Arizona (which is looking like they are pretty tough) and Boston College, if so..we would be hearing BCS talk at home...Instead we get to go to the Vegas Bowl and play a Pac 10 team that is looking like Oregon...

[ISiddiqui]

Ah, there is the Rutgers I know and love. It was getting scary for a moment there with all those wins! Hopefully Rutgers hasn't gone to full suck-ness yet. Gotta beat Syracuse.

[General Mike]

Ah, there is the Rutgers I know and love. It was getting scary for a moment there with all those wins! Hopefully Rutgers hasn't gone to full suck-ness yet. Gotta beat Syracuse.

Professor Dowling is back and he has brought RU 1000 with him. Maybe you can join them in their crusade.

[Craptacular]

BYU has quietly brought themselves back this season with a Top 25 ranking, destruction of every crappy ass team in the Mountain West....

Although, I wish they would have pulled their heads out against Arizona (which is looking like they are pretty tough) and Boston College, if so..we would be hearing BCS talk at home...Instead we get to go to the Vegas Bowl and play a Pac 10 team that is looking like Oregon...

I would not totally count on no BCS just yet. The losses by Maryland and Wake Forest kept BYU alive. If BYU finishes in the top 16 of the BCS rankings, is the highest ranked non-BCS conference winner (in other words, Boise St needs to lose bad enough to drop below BYU), and they are ranked higher than the champion of a conference with an automatic bid (possible with the ACC), then BYU would get an automatic berth. In the ACC, the four teams that still have a chance to win the conference were Wake Forest (#16), Georgia Tech (#18), Maryland (#19), and Boston College (#20). Although Wake and Maryland both lost today (and will drop in the BCS), they can still win the conference (Wake wins if they beat Maryland, but Maryland needs BC to lose to Miami). Georgia Tech plays Georgia, so if they lose that game but then win the ACC, they could be behind BYU. In other words, there is a decent chance that BYU ends up ahead of the ACC winner. The bigger questions are if BYU can make it to the top 16 and if a one-loss Boise St would drop behind a two-loss BYU. It's a longshot, but you can still hope!

[MacroGuru]

I would not totally count on no BCS just yet. The losses by Maryland and Wake Forest kept BYU alive. If BYU finishes in the top 16 of the BCS rankings, is the highest ranked non-BCS conference winner (in other words, Boise St needs to lose bad enough to drop below BYU), and they are ranked higher than the champion of a conference with an automatic bid (possible with the ACC), then BYU would get an automatic berth. In the ACC, the four teams that still have a chance to win the conference were Wake Forest (#16), Georgia Tech (#18), Maryland (#19), and Boston College (#20). Although Wake and Maryland both lost today (and will drop in the BCS), they can still win the conference (Wake wins if they beat Maryland, but Maryland needs BC to lose to Miami). Georgia Tech plays Georgia, so if they lose that game but then win the ACC, they could be behind BYU. In other words, there is a decent chance that BYU ends up ahead of the ACC winner. The bigger questions are if BYU can make it to the top 16 and if a one-loss Boise St would drop behind a two-loss BYU. It's a longshot, but you can still hope!

Well Damn, thanks for the info....I just kind of wrote us off there, but I feel if we didn't lose to Arizona and still have our loss to BC, we are still ranked in the Top 15 right now because we played BC to double OT and shot ourselves in the foot there. But I am just happy that we are playing as great as we are.

[k0ruptr]

I remember the last time BYU was in line for a BCS bid.

72-45 Hawaii.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii up 27-10 early 3rd Q

[MacroGuru]

I remember the last time BYU was in line for a BCS bid.

72-45 Hawaii.

Yup, a loss is a loss and an excuse is an excuse.

But we didn't have our depth and played without our Starting QB Brandon Doman and Doak Walker Award Winner Luke Staley, and I think our 2nd RB was injured as well...

We went into that game tore up, and was shredded for it, thus began the down fall of Gary Crowton at BYU, it's going to be sweet sweet irony for him if he comes into the LV Bowl with Oregon as their OC and wipes the walls with us....

[k0ruptr]

lol, good points.

that would be funny.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tonight's Pick Four numbers in the Ohio Lottery?

4-2-3-9

(I wouldn't have believed the post at Tabletop Sports over at Delphi (http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tabletopsports&msg=9588.1)if I hadn't looked it up for myself (http://www.ohiolottery.com/)

[Izulde]

Hopefully Wyoming gets the bid and pulls off an upset again.

[k0ruptr]

I'd like see Wyoming in a bowl too, they pushed BSU to the limit.

[MacroGuru]

Hopefully Wyoming gets the bid and pulls off an upset again.

Well as it stands they will get a bid, it's just dependent on the Bowl....right now the Mountain West has tie in's to:

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BYU has accepted the LV Bowl, TCU is more than likely going to the Fort Worth Bowl, and it looks like Utah will go to the Poinsetta Bowl, guess that leaves the Pokes heading to New Mexico....

[k0ruptr]

and Most likely playing San Jose St. in that bowl, a team that Hawaii is crushing 47-17 currently